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hi there, i'm brianna keilar. it's 1:00 p.m. in washington, 6:00 p.m. in london and 8:00 p.m. in jerusalem. wherever you're watching from around the world, thanks so much for joining us. we stewart the back-and-forth battle between jeb bush and hillary clinton over women's health care. this started with this comment from bush. >> you could take dollar for dollar -- although i'm not sure we need a half billion dollars for women's health issues. >> well, bush was referring to the half a billion dollars in funding for planned parenthood, funding that he and other republicans want to eliminate. clinton fired back with this tweet at jeb bush. she said "you are absolutely unequivocally wrong." and she followed that up with
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this. >> jeb bush said -- [ laughter ] -- he's not sure we need half a billion dollars for women's health issues. i'm reading it because i want to quote it exactly. now, he's got no problem giving billions of dollars away to the super wealthy and powerful corporations, but i guess women's health just isn't a priority for him. >> bush's team sent out this response. it says "with regards to women's health funding broadly, i misspoke as there are countless community health center, rural clinics and other women's health organizations that need to be fully funded." that statement fell flat with the democratic national committee, as you can imagine, it tweeted "jeb bush is all about limiting access to health care. he didn't misspeak, he accidentally told the truth. joining me to talk about this, we have cnn chief political analyst gloria borger. how big of a deal is this for
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jeb bush. >> first of all, standing on a stage with republicans in a debate it's not a big deal at all because most of them agree with him on the planned parenthood front. but i think what you see playing out here is the beginning of the next campaign and hillary clinton picking up where barack obama left off in 2012 in the so-called war on women and we've talked about that a lot and she saw an opportunity and she took it and you can't blame her campaign team because what hillary clinton needs to do is consolidate the vote of white women, particularly those older suburban women she is not doing really well with. she gets younger women. and this is one way for her to do it. they already figured they've got a head start with hispanic voters given donald trump and there was an opportunity on the women front. >> what is to be learned from jeb bush? this isn't the first time he's done this. remember, he said the thing about workers need to work longer hours. now, he was talking about part
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time workers who want to work more hours but it came out in a way that was just this gift for the clinton campaign. >> yeah. it took him four times to say that going to war in iraq was a mistake. jeb bush is rusty, hasn't been on the campaign trail for a while but i think the larger point for republicans and republicans i talk to say they have to see the passion in jeb bush that they haven't seen. he said he wanted to campaign joyfully. he said he wanted to enjoy himself on the campaign trail. he kind of looks like he's sort of annoyed some of the time by what he has to go through. and we all know it's an annoying process. >> it's not fun. everyone will see that. >> hillary clinton looks annoyed, too. >> but you have to pretend its fun. that's part of the game. >> you have to pretend you're having a great time. it's this constant exhaustion and sometimes you'll make a mistake and there is no room for
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error anymore because you're being recorded 24/7. so he doesn't go from off broadway to broadway, he's on broadway right now and he has to start behaving like it or republicans will get a little worried. >> maybe about like right now ahead of this debate that will happen tomorrow. we'll see. gloria borger, thanks so much. this slipup for jeb bush is the latest in a growing list of gaffes. here are some of the others. >> we see the rise of non-state terror organizations like isis, boko haram. i force myself to go visit asia four times a year to learn about the dynamic nature of the region. isis didn't exist three or four years ago. in fact, the guy that's the supreme leader, whatever his new title is, head of the caliphate. >> knowing what we know now, would you have authorized the invasion? >> i would have. so would have hillary clinton just to remind everybody and so would have almost everybody that was confronted with the intelligence they got. >> i literally -- i mean,
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there's no way for me to have -- what she said was knowing what we know now what would you have done? i heard -- i didn't -- whatever i heard it was translated "knowing what you knew then what would you do?" people need to work longer hours and through their productivity gain more income for their families. that's the only way we'll get out of this rut we're in. >> keep us from taking it out of context. what you meant to say was -- when you say more hours? you mean full time work? >> yeah, absolutely. >> not a full time guy or somebody who has two jobs needs to be working more time? >> absolutely not. my dad is probably the most perfect man alive so it's very hard for me to be critical of him. in fact, i have a t-shirt that says -- at the jeb swag store that says i'm the -- i -- my dad is the greatest man alive, if you don't like it, i'll take you outside. >> joining me now is dan pfeiffer, cnn political commentator and former obama white house communications director and also matt schlapp,
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white house political director under george w. bush in his administration. these misstatements here, he's struggli struggling. we saw him at the forum. hi seemed nervous. how does he clean this up ahead of this big debate tomorrow? : look, jeb bush, hillary clinton, these are people that haven't been on the campaign trail in a number of years and clearly they're wobbly, a little rusty. look for more of these misstatements. we are six months away from iowa. they'll shake this off and jeb bush will become a better candidate. by the way, the competition will make him a better candidate. >> does it matter this far out, dan? does he have room here? >> he's not going to end his campaign right now but, like, you will see this clip about cutting women's health in ads if he's the nominee running on women's programming for months. this will hurt him. it may not hurt him a lot in the primary because his record against women's health choices will probably help him there,
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but in a general election it can be death. romney's statement about defunding planned parenthood ran thousands of times until n television ads in our campaign room. so this will hurt him in the long run if he's the nominee. >> matt see this is as rustiness and you see that in all of these candidates. is that your diagnosis here? >> look, i think he's been out of politics for a long time, politics has changed dramatically in the nearly 15 years since he last ran for office but he has not answered the question of why he's running for president. like you said, he doesn't exude joyfulness on the trail, this looks like a task. he doesn't have a rationale. if you compare jeb bush with donald trump or ted cruz or scott walker, these guys look like they're having fun and they're generating enthusiasm and winning a primary is like generating enthusiasm. >> he left himself wide open to an attack by hillary clinton. keeping in mind, this is coming on a day where perhaps he could be attacking her. the fbi we've just learned in a news story that the fbi is looking into the security of her
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server which contains expectedly some now classified information or information that will be classified yet here he is back on his heels once again. >> i don't think he is on his heels. i'm going to disagree. i think this is a great issue for him. i think he used the euphemism of women's health issues and it's quite extreme when he see these videos about what planned parenthood is doing with harvesting the organs of unborn children and it's a real good issue for him because it takes the whole question of the war on women and puts it in the perspective of what republicans are saying, which is can't we find a middle course on these questions? is this really what america wants? >> but that's not what he's saying in his soundbite, is it? >> no, in the long run it's a good issue for him to focus on h. n the short run we're missing what the issue is about and he needs to get right on target here which is the american people are offended by what they're seeing in these videos and planned parenthood's actions generally. >> you see hillary clinton defending planned parenthood to the utmost. is this a faultline, you think,
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in the general election? >> absolutely. it was in the last -- the 2012 election, it will be here. there was a poll that said planned parenthood was the most admired organization in the country. that is problem for republicans who need to attract women, particularly younger women if they'll do better in this election. so this will hurt them. and to mat's point. whether it's good or bad we may disagree but he didn't even handle that right. he could have stood by what he said but he back-pedalled immediately, had to send out two statements and he looked weak. he's consistently looked weak throughout this process. there's real questions about the rationale for his candidacy, political skills is that same poll shows his favorable numbers were worse than mitt romney's anywhere in the 2012 election. that's a problem. >> it's not a big problem when he looks across the fence and sees how bad and rusty and really hidden the hillary clinton candidacy is. she's getting a run for her money by an avowed socialist. and i think, you know, all
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democrats are looking at that race and they seem to think the solution to the recruit joe biden. so they're going to have to improve. >> so much drama. >> i'll take clinton against a bush any time. >> well, we'll see. thanks so much matt schlapp and dan pfeiffer. coming up, president obama making a big pitch on the iran deal that the u.s. has brokered with iran and several other nations. will he be able to succeed convincing perhaps some republicans but certainly a number of people in his own party? we'll be right back with more on that. i'm reworking the menu. mayo, corn dogs... you are so out of here! ahh... the complete balanced nutrition of great tasting ensure. with nine grams of protein... and 26 vitamins and minerals. ensure. take life in.
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. president obama is making a hard sell for the iranian nuclear deal, speaking earlier today, the president portrayed it as the most consequential foreign policy decision for congress since the vote to go to war in iraq. >> the choice we face is ultimately between diplomacy or
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some form of war. maybe not tomorrow, maybe not three months from now but soon. and here's the irony. as i said before, military action would be far less effective than this deal in preventing iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. if congress kill this is deal we will lose more than just constraints on iran's nuclear program or the sanctions we have painstakingly built we will have lost something more precious -- america's credibility. >> chief national security correspondent jim sciutto and global affairs correspondent elise labott joining me now. it was interesting, because i thought, you know, you saw president obama and he framed this as a choice between diplomacy and war and we know americans are war weary. >> they are.
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he's trying to make it an obvious decision but it's not. we know even members of his own party haven't come around and they have doubts between that dichotomy of war and this nurk leer deal. they say he's given up too much in this nuclear deal. they have a fair argument. a lot of these things are ones the administration would not have been trying to sell two years ago, every nuclear facility still open though under restrictions. >> thousands of centrifuges. >> you can reasonably take issue with the deal. but he's saying you can't because it's either this deal that i negotiated or we go into another war like the iraq war. >> he said basically i was right about the iraq war and it was a catastrophic disaster and the same people against this deal are -- want to go to war with iran now. and i think this is not going to bring over reluctant democrats who as jim said have grievances about the deal they share with
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israel. i think they would have liked to see addressing the legitimate concerns. this is how i'll make this deal stick. problems with inspections? this is how we'll make sure inspections work. >> you didn't hear that? >> i didn't hear a larger strategy to make sure this deal is workable including in the region. i would have liked to see him nest this in a broader strategy on how they'll make the allies stronger and iran weaker. >> elise and jim, thank you so much for your insights on that. there are a small group of lawmakers who could make or break this deal. you heard elise and jim talk about that. one is democratic senate or ben cardin. he is the ranking member of the senate foreign relations committee joining me now from capitol hill. senator, thanks for being with us. you helped negotiate a bipartisan measure that gave congress the authority to review this agreement. have you made a decision on whether you were going to support or suppose this iran nuclear deal? >> well, we're in, i think, day
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17 or 18 of a 60-day review period. today we just finished a meeting with the director general of the iaea, the monitoring agency, which i think was a very important meeting. so we're not finished our hearings and our reviews we'll v a classified briefing for all senators so i'm proud of the statute that gives the congressional review. as a result we have a stronger agreement that's been presented by the administration and we're doing the type of review that i think the american people expect congress to do. >> are you leaning one way or the other? what do you need to hear in order to support this deal and support the president. >> well, it's not a matter of leaning one way or the other. i thought your analysis of the president's speech was right on. we need to talk about how we go forward with or without this agreement. there are certain issues being
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raised particularly about regional security our our ability to confront iran on nonnuclear nefarious activities, including their support of terrorism and interfering with other countries. these are questions we have to answer. does this put us on a better path to prevent iran from backing a nuclear weapons state or not but there are related issues as to how to implement this agreement if it goes forward. >> you're, i know, getting lobbies big time from both sides of this debate. the calls coming into your office. can you characterize them for us? how many are you getting telling you not to go along, how many you're getting telling you go along? >> every time i mention this, one side winning or the other, the other side seems to get more energizened energized and i get more communication. on any given day it's close. the intensity is high. there's a great deal of interest. i can tell i'm in maryland and i go home every night people want
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to talk to me about this. i think that's good. it's part of the process. >> but you represent maryland and at this point you have president obama, this is his deal, and hillary clinton has come down on the side of this deal, she is far and away the front-runner in the democratic field for 2016. how in a state like maryland could you buck both president obama and hillary clinton on this and not go for it? >> i agree that this is a consequential vote. i need to do what's in the best interest of this country. it's not whether i appease the president or one political party. the president mentioned the iraq war. i voted against sending our troops to the iraq war and that was an unpopular vote i made is when i voted against that. this issue is much more divided among the american public. i think there's a divided popularity for going forward or not. i think at the end of the day it's not what's popular or what
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the president of the united states is asking us to do, it's what's in the best interest of america and that's how i want to judge it. >> i want to ask you about the briefing from the iaea. there have been a lot of concerns raised, especially by republican, but i know democrats are also concerned, about what they're calling side deals or separate agreements between the iaea and iran on how weaponized iran -- how close they had come to a weapon, the weaponization of their nuclear system. did you get any information about the details of those agreements? >> i thought the director general explained pretty clearly that he's under restrictions where he can not release confidential information. that's the practice of the iaea and their arrangements with states that they'll maintain confidentiality of their information. so i fully understand his position. where we tried to get further clarifications is that there are provisions in these two annexes that deal with the ability of the iaea to gain access to the
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possible military dimensions of the iranian program. that's pretty important for us to understand. so we're trying to tease out the process information, access, can we get full access, et cetera. it was difficult because of the confidentiality clause that iaea operates. >> the obama administration says it's expecting to get some of that information and it will share it with everyone on capitol hill. are you expecting that to happen? >> i know there's going to be an all members briefing on this so we are hopeful we'll get more information, yes. >> all right, senator cardin, thanks so much. really important topic and we appreciate as you consider which direction you're going to go that you are talking to us today. thanks. still ahead, donald trump, well, he may love the spotlight, but the former reality tv star has a much different stage waiting for him tomorrow night. how will he tackle his first debate and what can his rivals do to steal that spotlight? our political experts will be weighing in. plus, the hunting guide
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media would like him to be attacked. it would be a big mistake on their part. if you attack donald trump and look what happened, lindsey graham not even in the debate, look what happened, rick perry, not even in the debate. you attack donald trump he's going to come back at you twice as hard. >> let's bring in senior washington correspondent jeff zeleny here in washington and chief congressional correspondent dana bash in cleveland ahead of the debate. dana, this is interesting when you hear a donald trump advisor saying he's sure they're not going to come at them. i know a lot of advisors are saying actually don't go after him. is that how you think they're going to approach donald trump? >> i think it is. wow, what a warning from him. i'm not sure if he's trying to taunt the other nine to say -- you know, kind of make my day. that's not the plan for most if not all of the other nine candidates. i think at this point it's donald trump in talking to
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sources in pretty much all of the other camps, their focus is going to be their own record, what they have done, what they can do and a person who won't be there, hillary clinton. you heard lindsey graham start to do this at a new hampshire forum earlier in the week but, again, in talking to sources across the board i think the big focus is going to be i'm the guy who can get out there and beat the democrat. at this point they'll think it's going to be hillary clinton so that's why they are the person who the remembers should elect. that's the key thing to listen for. >> jeff donald trump may not be your typical politician but he's typical in how he's handling expectations here, down playing them, he says he hasn't been reversing for the debates. let's listen to what he told bill o'reilly on fox news. >> i want to be right down the middle, i want to talk about policy, i want to talk about the wall, i want to talk about illegal immigration, i want to talk about bad trade deals. i may say i can negotiate better than any of these folks. i did write the article of the deal, i built a phenomenal
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business, as you know. i'm not looking to hurt anybody, i'm not looking to embarrass anybody. if i have to bring up deficiency, i'll bring up deficiencies, but i'd rather go straight down the middle but you don't know what's going to happen. >> he's spoken, jeff, in a lot of generalizations at this point. do you think we are going to see specifics coming from donald trump tomorrow? >> who knows if there will be time for specifics with all those superlatives. we know he's going to say he's terrific, we know he's going to say he is fantastic. the reality is even though the debate is a two hour debate, with ten candidates on the stage the debate format doesn't allow specifics so in that respect it could be right up his alley in terms of giving quick answers to building the wall. he says mexico's going to pay for it. someone could ask him -- these moderators are very good. without question they're going to follow up on him. this is a live interview and he's going to have to answer
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that. as dana knows very well from having just interviewed him, he's not very steeped in substance. the question though, do voters care? at this point they really like his brash style he's a successful businessman so i think we'll get meat on the bones tomorrow night but don't look for a policy lecture or speech. it won't happen. >> if i could at to, that jeff is right. i'm told by several campaigns that the rules for this debate, because there are ten candidatesen the stage is that every candidate has one minute. so 60 seconds to answer each question. there's not a lot of time to get deep into the substance of policy in 60 seconds. they will also have 30 second time limit to rebut anybody who says anything specific about them by name. but that's why it's going to be difficult with all those people on the stage, even though it will be two hours. is. >> jeff, you have next to donald
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trump in this debate jeb bush. this is a big night for him. even though he isn't the front-runner and he's trailing donald trump considerably, how much pressure is he under to have a strong performance? >> i think he's around fair bit of pressure. he needs to show that he is the leading alternative, the mature republican, perhaps, in the room. that he's the person who is -- you know, he's so familiar with the white house, of course, having a father and brother in the white house but he has to show he has fire in his belly. he's very good in the town hall format. dana's seen him out there. we all three have. he answers questions after question. but this is a different format. this is a quick format and he's not always as succinct as his rivals so this is a big moment for him. he won't change who he is. he's a substantive candidate and that's what we'll see tomorrow. but i think more people are more likely to go after jeb bush than
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almost anyone else up there. there's far less risk of going after jeb bush than donald trump. >> that's exactly right, brianna. jeb bush -- i do think he has perhaps the most to lose aside from the obvious front-runner donald trump. but there's so much focus on him as a substantive guy. on him as maybe the adult in the room that he's got to prove that tomorrow night. the other thing he has to prove is that he's been able to brush the rust off. polish himself off as a politician who hasn't been for eight nine years because it's been that long since he left the governor's mansion in florida. this week just yesterday with his comments about women the forum he had a couple days ago weren't his best performances, everybody people close to jeb bush admit that. going into this people were saying maybe he can use donald
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trump as a foil to show he's a different kind of guy. the question is whether or not the format will allow for that. weren't he might be asked point blank respond to what donald trump said about mexican americans and about your wife being a mexican american. >> imagine that. >> those are opportunities he might have, you never know. >> i cannot wait and i can't wait to faulk to you about it. dana bash, jeff zeleny, thanks, guys. we have so much more debate coverage still ahead with a big show down tomorrow night in cleveland. we'll preview the six big things you should watch for to the run iffers to that invisible candidate on the stage. we'll cover it all next. plaque psoriasis had moe most of my life. but that hasn't stopped me from modeling. my doctor told me about stelara® it helps keep my skin clearer. with only 4 doses a year after 2 starter doses... ...stelara® helps me be in season. stelara® may lower your ability to fight infections and increase your risk of infections. some serious infections require hospitalization. before starting stelara® your doctor should test for tuberculosis.
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the stakes are high for the first republican primary debate of the campaign. we got a bit of a preview earlier this week when 14 of the 17 candidates took part in a republican forum. so what are some things to watch for tomorrow night? cnn politics and finance reporter m.j. lee joins us from cleveland to discuss. m.j., you say there are six things to watch. you say number one can jeb bush avoid stumbles. how important is this? >> hey, brianna. while there's a lot riding on donald trump and a lot of attention on donald trump tomorrow night, i think there are plenty of people who are really curious to see how jeb bush performs tomorrow night. we got a little preview tuesday night of the forum in new hampshire. and he didn't have his best performance. he didn't bring his a-game. he stumbled. people noted he seemed nervous and i think thursday night will be a way for him to prove to critics that he can perform better. he's obviously someone who
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hasn't really run for office in a very long time and people have wondered if he's rusty. thursday night will be an important moment for him to prove himself. >> number two on your list, you say we should watch to see if someone in the middle tier is going to break out and number three you say keep an eye on those 5:00 p.m. debaters we've been jokingly referring to this as the kitty table, those who didn't make in the the top ten. what does it take for them to break out and do they have an opportunity not sharing the stage with donald trump? as y >> as you know, because donald trump has sucked up so much of the energy out of the room, for all 16 candidates involved, all 16 of them, it has been very difficult for them to get attention, for them to get media coverage. for the candidates who are standing on stage next to a lot of it these do with how do they
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handle him. do they engage him or find ways to ignore he is on stage and find ways to talk about their policy issues and look presidential. obviously thursday night is an important opportunity for some of these candidates to make a good first impression to voters across the nation. for some of the lower-tear and can -- lower-tier candidates, the 5:00 p.m. debaters, it piece important for them to. i was speaking to newt gingrich who has done this before and get what is goes into having a good debate performance and he was making the point look, some of the 9:00 p.m. candidates tomorrow night won't end up being the 9:00 p.m. candidates in another debate. some of the 5:00 p.m. candidates might have a better showing and see their poll numbers go up. the fortunes of presidential candidates can fluctuate a lot in a short period of time. so i think for everyone involved this is an important opportunity. >> number four, and i love that you flagged this. you say the moderators. they may have to wrangle donald trump or they could force another candidate to say, hey,
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respond to what donald trump said. then there's the person you call the invisible candidate on the stage, hillary clinton. we know they're going to hit her but i love your last one here, m.j. on your list it simply says, oops. because as we know, there's always these memorable moments when someone kind of messes up. how much is riding on this if they have a gaffe? >> thes on obviously refers to rick perry's gaffe in 2012 and the 2012 cycle when in the middle of the debate he said "i want to shut down three government agencies." named one, named two and when he got to the third one couldn't think of it and uttered the words that you should -- or one would that you should never hope to utter when you're debating on stage and this is oops. it's unclear what that ended up hurting him and whether that ended up being fatal. he obviously didn't get the party's nomination. all of these candidates tomorrow will want to avoid the moment
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that could haunt them. >> and he may be trying for redemption, although he is at that early hour. m.j. lee, love your list. thanks for joining us from cleveland. appreciate it. now we have new developments in the hillary clinton e-mail saga. clinton's lawyer, david kendall, has confirmed to cnn the fbi is looking into the security of the private e-mail she used while she was sake. in particular, that server at her home in chappaqua, new york. the swap reporting that kendall has been questioned about a thumb drive he has with copies of clinton's old work e-mails. clinton herself is not accused of any wrongdoing her spokesman reiterating clinton has never sent nor received any e-mails marked classified at the time. and for the latest headlines and in-depth political news, head over to cnnpolitics.com. coming up, the safari hunting guide who helped an american kill cecil the lion is speaking out to cnn. what he had to say about the
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i want to take you quickly to france where officials are talking about the discovery of that flaperon and we're going to perhaps find out if it is from mh-370. let's listen. >> they have our deepest sympathy and prayers. i would like to assure all those affect affected by this tragedy that the government of malaysia is committed to do everything
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within our means to find out the truth of what happened. mh-370's disappearance marked us as a nation. we mourn with you as a nation and i promise you this -- malaysia will always remember and honor those who were lost on board mh-370. thank you. thank you very much. that's all i have to say. all right, we are going to continue to monitor that, but experts are analyzing plane parts in france and we are awaiting new information there, we're expecting perhaps to hear from that team ha has been
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investigating. let's turn now to another story, a man suspected of leading the hunt that resulted in the death of cecil, zimbabwe's famous protected lion. it appeared briefly in court today to face poaching charges. his trial was postponed until late september to allow the defense more time to prepare. c cnn's david mckenzie caught up with this professional hunter to hear his thoughts on the charges against him.
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>> do you feel you have the right permits and everything was above board? >> i believe so. >> so what do you think about the way you've been prosecuted like this? >> crazy. >> zimbabwen parks authorities have banned hunted on the margins of the national park but, in fact, one senior official of zimbabwean parks told us they want to hunting to resume and this furor to die down so they can get revenues into these communities. the trial continues late september. let's head back to following mh-370. we just dipped into a press conference in toulouse, france. i'm just literally hearing in my ear that officials there have confirm that that debris found on reunion island is from
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>> they are in toulouse, france, where this investigation has been going on. catch us up here. >> hi, brianna, yes, the prime minister making that surprise press conference there to sympathize both with the passengers and the crew members families to say that he stands united with them and submitted to finding out the truth shortly after announcing that the piece of aircraft found on reunion island as he put it was indeed from mh 370. that means that obviously the investigators that arrived here just a few hours ago, brianna, have conclusively decided together that there flaperon, which we knew since the weekend was from a 777 aircraft is now conclusively matched to mh-370,
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a lot of hopes and fears tied to this announcement and we were expecting a press conference from the french prosecutor's office shortly, but it seems that the prime minister and the malaysian government decided that they should be the ones to make this announcement. of course, he was the one to make the announcement initially last year to confirm that they believe that this claim was lost in the indian ocean and that's where it ended its journey as he put it then last year. brianna? >> this wing part from malaysia flight mh 370, the first sign that we've seen of it since we went missing a year and a half ago. this was a process that was conducted with the you had most care, right? you talked about -- this was in a sealed container, and it's being treated essentially as the singular clue from a crime scene. >> yeah, absolutely, a crime scene because here in france a
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manslaughter case has been launched on board by the families, a manslaughter case pending terrorist incident or hijacking on board mh-370 and that is why one of the reasons, of course, as well as the international aircraft investigation that it's so sensitive and so delicately dealt with. it was delivered here in that sealed container, as you mentioned, all the groups that were going to analyze it had to be like present at the same time when the sealed container was going to be opened. they arrived here around 2:30 local time and stayed in there for about two and a half, three hours and then they left with great speed and it's not long since we've -- after that since we've heard from the prime minister. the tests we understand they would have conducted are things like son dwrogramsonograms, x-r
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imaging. they went inside air crash investigations yesterday to determine what exactly they can do. of course, the first step and the priority was always to be able to match this part, the flaperon from a 777 aircraft to mh-370. now they can perhaps reveal in weeks to come how that plane went down in the indian ocean. >> reporter: in toulouse, france, where this process of examining that flaperon that you see right there is concluded in notion that it is indeed part of mh-370. we've learned this from the malaysian prime minister. he is there -- he is -- malaysian officials, of course, are there in toulouse, france. he announced that from a live press conference in kuala lumpur. i want to bring in a cnn aviation analyst who is a former ntsb managing director. let's talk about what this one piece that we now know is part of malaysia air flight 370
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means. it is -- it is a flaperon and so that tells you that -- what does that tell you about how this plane may have met its demise? >> well, i mean, it confirms the sad truth that the plane ended up in the water with all of its passengers and crew and that there were no survivors. that's the fundamental truth of today and the confirmation on how it went down is still many months away, but this confirms that the plane is in the ocean. >> some experts have suggested the fact that this was from a plane has to do with air speed being so tremendous that it became separated before the plane would have gone in the water. what would that tell us about whether these investigators will be able to ultimately retrieve say a black box that does re-record every two hours? >> this is a very difficult investigation. it's going to continue to be one. it does look to many of us from
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afar that this flaperon could have separated on the way down because there's no real depression damage, no real damage that would result from 500 or 600-mile-an-hour impact with the ocean, so it's very likely i think that it separated, but being able to, you know, trace back currents, it's impossible. the search is going to be painstaking and it's going to go on for months. >> peter, stay with me here. aaron mclaughlin is going to join us live from reunion island where the flaperon was found. this must have been the suspicion there, erin, obviously from the get go of folks who found this. you have an island there of people who have been searching for even more pieces of debris since this has been found. are people at all, i imagine not, i imagine it's very early in the morning there, but what do you think the reaction is
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going to be? >> well, brianna, i think people are going to continue to search, and i think if anything this news will mean that those searches may just intensify and they are not just searching here on reunion island. they are also searching in nearby martha stewart iooss and the seychelles island which are over 1,200 miles from here. people i've been speaking to say they are dedicated to solving this mystery. they say they feel a connection to mh-370, not just because the flaperon washed up on the shores of this island but because this is a close-knit island, very family-oriented. there are many religions on this island and they were absolutely horrified when they first heard the news of mh-370, shocked at the idea that loved ones could just disappear without explanation so they are dedicated in helping this effort, and they say they are going to be vigilant, vigilantly looking on the beaches and in the waters surrounding here for
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the days and weeks to come. >> will ripley in beijing. i want to get to you real quick. there are a number of victims there in china. family members who have been looking for some clue, some confirmation about what happened to their loved ones. are you -- are you hearing from them or what was their expectation ahead of today? >> more than 150 family members here in china, and they are active on chinese social media right now. they have these -- these group messaging systems where they have been sharing information and people were awake. they were watching and, of course, as you might imagine this is devastating for -- for these families who have been bracing themselves for the possibility that this might be a piece of mh-370 but, again, they still, until this plane is found and until these people were on board, 239 people were found, some family members may still hold on to hope that some people
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may have made it out alive even though it appears that's against all possibilities at this point. >> devastating news confirming suspicions. will ripley in beijing. that's it for me. we will continue to follow this story. if you are viewing internationally amanpour is next and for our north american viewers "newsroom" with brooke baldwin starts right now. breaking news here on cnn. thank you for joining me. i'm brooke baldwin. i want to welcome our viewers here in the united states and all around the world for our breaking news coverage on the disappearance of malaysian air flight 370. this is huge. just in the last few moments we've just confirmed, this is from the malaysian prime minister, that that debris, that wreckage that was washed ashore in the indian ocean on reunion island does indeed belong to that missing plane, a plane that has been missing for 515 days. investigators in france have ju