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moos. cnn, new york. >> there is a talent portion in the cnn debate. just saying. just saying. when in doubt, donald trump just wink at the camera. thank you for joining us. ac 360 starts right now. good evening. thank you for joining us tonight. late developments in yet another theater attack. new information abut the man who went into a showing of "mad max" bringing pepper spray, swinging an ax and carrying a gun. what we know about what happened inside that theater and the shootout that followedened and what two people there saw. we begin with hope and doubt. almost a year and a half since malaysia airlines flight 370 vanished what could if true be a turning point. what would if true be the first chance for so many people who have waited so long for real answers about their loved ones to end month after month of limbo false lead and contradictory statements. all that if true. today malaysia's prime minister announcing this piece of debris found across the indian ocean
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from where experts think the 777 went down is conclusively a part from the wing of mh370. >> it is my hope that this confirmation, however tragic and painful, will at least bring certainty to the families and loved ones of the 239 people on board mh370. they have our deepest sympathy and prayers. >> reporter: officials in france where the part is being tested they're not going as far as the malaysian prime minister did right there. nor are american or chinese officials, nor is the boeing company not yet, which may help explain why tonight's news is being received with some caution and skepticism as well as relief. in a moment our aviation experts weigh in. first will ripley in beijing where so many passengers were from. will the malaysian government is anoungsnounceing it conclusively confirmed that the debris is
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mh370, why are they not on the same page as the rest of the officials in the investigation? >> a lot of people are asking the question, anderson. they have been planning this for days. supposed to be a coordinated message the difference in the message from malaysia and french prosecutor added to confusion, heartache, pain for family members certainly ones we have been speaking to here in china. keep in mind the prime minister as a politics 'tis under a lot of prub lickolitician is under a lot of pressure. off to use language conclusively confirm does contradict what the french prosecutor said. they're looking at this as a criminal investigation. and the single piece of physical evidence that they have this part of the wing clearly so far they haven't found the proof that they need to say, definitively it comes from mh370. they say it is very likely but they don't have that proof yet. >> will do we know the time line according to the rest of the countries involved. for being able to announce whether or not this piece is
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from mh370? >> well we know in france they're going to be bringing in more experts and conducting more tests though. we don't have a clear picture yet of how many days weeks or perhaps longer before they're ready to make an announcement about whether this is indeed from mh370. but of course the other timeline is the search that's been happening in the southern indian ocean led by the australian teams that. has been continuing day in and day out. that search goes on unaffected no matter what they what they decide if they actually do just say this wing this piece of the wing is from the plane. they're still having to scour very deep ocean. and they're really no closer than they have been in finding the plane in the 239 people. >> yeah will you spoke about the families earlier. i know they were notified by malaysia airlines of the news today. that's right? >> some of them were yeah. there were phone calls that went out. there was also an e-mail message. just went out a few minutes before the prime minister went on live television.
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keep in mind the families of 239 people, 15 countries. they did send out the alert. families tuned in to watch. the ones i spoke to here in beijing said they're very skeptical. they feel that the malaysian government really was premature in putting this message out there. almost forcing closure for the sake of the government without consideration for the families. listen. >> translator: i am suspicious of malaysia airlines word because in the past they have a track record of going back and forth in what they say of being true and not true. what i hope right now is for the chinese officials to give me a confirmed answer. >> translator: i don't believe it. i am furious and i think this announcement is very irresponsible. >> reporter: anderson we have been talking to a lot of people on chinese social media. one man's message to us really struck me. she said "i simply can't accept this. i want to see my husband again." these people are in a panfule ful
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painful limbo, 515 days on. >> will ripley in beijing. i want to bring in people cnn richard quest, former faa inspector, david sousi, and david gallo who co-led the search at sea, at the woods hall oceanographic foundation and cnn contributor. david, all this back and forth as to whether or not this evidence at this point is conclusive. why isn't everybody on the same page about this right now? >> well we, have seen it from the beginning, anderson really. if it's been this back and forth. as the surviving loving member of the families was saying that it has gone on back and forth, back and forth. we need to make sure this stops. now on a forensic investigation what is going on in france. you don't use process of elimination and say elt must be a flap. you have to have forensic proof.
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the paint. it has to be samples from the paint. from the metal to tie it specifically to the air craft. that's what they're waiting for. that's what they mean when they say 100% conclusive. >> richard, the piece of debris -- french authorities are doing this additional analysis to confirm whether or not it is from the plane. is it just the paint they're looking at? >> they're looking at every aspect of it anderson. the obvious parts they're going to be looking at for example you can see the front, that's the leading edge of the flaperon. very little damage has been done here. they're going to be looking to see exactly why that would necessarily be the case. but the exact opposite of course of that can be seen on the reverse, or the trailing edge of the flaperon. and here you get a very jagged edge. they're going to want to know did that happen when it cam off the aircraft? -- came off the aircraft in the air or in the water? or perhaps that was caused as the -- as the flaperon made its
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way, that long journey across in the currents. and then you have the barnacles. look at them they're everywhere. all across the marine life. by looking at that they will gain an indication of what has happened. but anderson, the core question, what is there on this flaperon that malaysia airlines believes it has identified what the prosecutor called the elements that tar spaare specific to that. we don't know what they are. nor do we know exact plea what they believe they show that that could have only come from mh370. anderson. >> david gallo, it's fascinating. richard pointing out the barnacles. the weathering pieces of -- what's -- the piece of debris has picked up being in the ocean. will investigators be able to get a better idea of where the plane may have gone down just from testing that material? or can it not be that specific?
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>> i think they will get some general idea anderson. and their hope will be that it doesn't contradict anything that led them to believe that the plane was off the west coast of australia. the satellite handshakes. we'll hear more over the next few weeks. i was surprised to hear anything at all today. the french are very methodical about how they do things and complete. it is going to be a while before we hear where they think this came from. >> david sousi, pointing out a small amount of damage to the front the ragged horizontal tear across the back. what does that mean to you? how do investigators determine exactly how much it came off the plane? it means there are two ways it could have come off the airplane. one hitting water, it was extended the time of ditching could have pulled it off, damaged the trailing edge without damaging the leading edge. the other way possibly if the
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aircraft did enter into a very steep stall, and exceeded its mach limits at which point a flutter would occur on the back of that which would explain that broken trailing edge. and then be ripped off by that. but they'll be able to tell that in the metalurgy tests to lack at that and see exactly what type of stress it was under when it cam offe off. one thing conclusive not on the aircraft when it hit the water. sure about that. if it crashed into the water there would be leading edge damage on it. >> richard, in terms of the pathway of the debris. you and i looked the other day and modeling and parts of the plane could reach reunion island 12-24 months after the plane's disappearance. technically more debris could wash up on this island or surrounding air masses right? >> absolutely anderson. 18-24 months what the university of western australia said. we're only just that first part
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which would have hit reunion island over there. there is still a lot more that could head in that general direction. but the question is where would it make landfall? madagascar? mozambique? northern part of the coast there? it will happen on the beaches of that part of the world and that's where the focus of attention will be coming. >> richard quest. thank you. david sousi, david gallo as well. ahead tonight, late details on a man police say tried to commit mass murder at a nashville movie theater two. people there when it happened. we'll hear from them. how the republican candidates are preparing for tomorrow's big debate. and why donald trump says he is not.
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but failed and died at the hand of mass gunfire instead. [ gunfire ] >> that's how it all ended this afternoon inside a movie theater in nashville, tennessee. a gunman pepper spray, two backpacks, an ax no one else killed or no one else seriously hurt. one person steven who didn't give a last name was in the theater with his daughter. both were pepper sprayed. he suffered a minor hatchet wound. >> i'm eternally grateful excuse me for metro police department for their fast response today and the fact that
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no one else got injured other than the person who did this. i would ask anyone to pray for his family because he obviously has some mental problems or something else. my family does not want any kind of 15 minutes of fame. we were not looking for any of this. we did nothing to bring this upon ourselves. and i am very very grateful that no one else got injured here today other than the person who perpetrated this. >> could have been much worse. the focus now turns to the would-be killer. and late information we are just now getting agting about him. include hooging he was younger than we reported earlier. boris sanchez joins us. boris, this could be much worse. what is the latest we are getting? >> it could have been much worse. one of the reasons it wasn't. just luck. a coincidence that two police officers were just outside the theater when the suspect started unloading these canisters of pepper spray. they were tending to a car
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accident that happened just outside. there were eight people inside the theater at the time. three of them ran out and got the attention of these officers. one of them went into the theater. and engaged the gunman as we know. you mentioned earlier, officers have described him as a 51-year-old man earlier. we learned he is actually 29 years old. he had a surgical mask on. had taken a gun, a hatchet, as well as helper spray and two backpacks in the theater with him. and the good news only three people sustaining minor injuries all of them expected to be okay. but again the timing of this is unsettling considering last week there was another shooting at a movie theater. and the case of james holmes in colorado is just wrapping up. >> have you learned anything about, or have police said anything about the motivation of this snern. >> there are no clear indications of the motivation. police are still trying to identify this man. earlier they told us again he was in his 50s.
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someone who was in the antioch community, neighborhood in nashville, but as far as whether or not he may have said anything or yelled something out, or if potentially provoked it is unknown aptt this time. >> boris sanchez. appreciate it. joining us now, two people who were inside the multiplex when awful this happened. jessica, appreciate you being with us. i understand you were just coming out of another movie when you ran into police officers. what happened? >> yeah basically, we were the only ones in our theater. i walked out to use the restroom. and walked straight into the policemen who were armed and had guns. they told me what was happening ichl should i should get back into the theater. if i saw a man, they described him to me. if well see a man, we should leave as soon as possible. exit the building. so i went back in. we basically had to take cover
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for a little bit. >> so they told you to go back into the theater you were already in? >> yes. i hadn't seen we didn't actually see the shooter at all. i think he was in a theater close to us. but, luckily we did not have to encounter that. >> how did the police describe him to you? >> they said a white male red hair has a gun and quite possibly an ax. and i said i would, what do i do? they said go back into your theater and wait there. and so -- that's pretty much what happened. >> that must have been terrifying. alex i understand you were inside the theater during this. did you hear shots? >> well initially before jessica left the theater we heard screams coming from another theater. and this is before we knew anything was happening. >> we thought it was a scary
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movie. >> weep just assumed, showing next door it was really scary. once she left i saw flash lights coming from the projection booth looking for people in our theater. and then all of the video just stopped. and i sat there and then she came back and told us that we need to get down. then while we were taking cover, we could hear yelling coming from the other theater. we heard, at least one gunshot. >> a couple of minutes later about, five six policemen came in. and metro police. metro police. who is in this theter? and they escorted us out and told us to to run as far away as we could. and we took refuge in a zaxby's under lockdown for a couple of hours. >> wow. >> well i mean it was, i'm glad you guys were together and everything worked out okay. alex thank you so much. jessica, thank you so much for being with us tonight. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> ahead on the eve of the first republican presidential debate. donald trump says he wants to
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keep it civil and talk about the issues. he also said he is just going to be himself when he take the stage. the question is some are asking how do you square those two things. we'll be right back.
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first time debater who doesn't plan on practicing or preparing and vowed to just be himself. does that mean he will bring his blunt talk and take no prisoner style. he made news all summer attacking fellow republicans. certainly the donald trump most americans know. here's what he said about that on "good morning america" today. >> i don't want to attack anybody. maybe i will be attacked and maybe not. i would rather just discuss thor use. certainly i don't want to attack. if i am attack i'd have to do something back. but i would look itike it to be very civil. >> no doubt mr. trump's opponents have been boning up on the issues. so far donald trump hasn't shared many specifics. pinning him down is something of a challenge. his campaign website doesn't have an issues page. the question is what should we expect tomorrow. chief congressional
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correspondent dana bash joins me now. so i mean preparations are very much under way for the big event tomorrow night. what is the mood there? i mean there is so much excitement around the country for this debate? >> you know that feeling when it is the day before the first day of school and everybody is kind of walking around with their, with their feeling of anticipation it's sort of look that minus the trapper keepers here. in and around cleveland. you see so many people from all of the different campaigns. remember these are all fellow republican whose have worked together at various points. that is definitely the sentiment here the feeling. most of the candidates are, are already here doing their prepping doing their discussions, maybe mock debating with their aides from here. donald trump since he happens to have his own plane, will come in tomorrow for the debate and may leave that night. you have the feeling of anticipation here. no question about it. >> you have been talking to the
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campaigns. what are they saying about their strategies going into tomorrow night. particularly you have to ask when it comes to donald trump? >> absolutely. look almost to a person each candidate's campaign has said to me their number one goal is to talk about their own records. probably no surprise. this is really their chance in many ways to introduce themselves to to the country. a lot of the people we know them because we eat and breathe and sleep politics. but not a lot of people do aside from donald trump so. that i think is the main goal. having said that look it is going to be a two-hour debate. you know how this works anderson. you moderated these kinds of debates. when you have ten people on the stage. they're only going to have the rules save one minute for each answer. 30 seconds for a rebuttal. though there is a lot of time there is not, not going to have a lot of time to really drill down on either the approximately see or the political point that they want to make. i think the person who has the most at stake here not donald
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trump. it is jeb bush. because he gigs tois going to be the guy next to trump and the guy who has $100 million plus in his bank account, the republican establishment said this is our guy they want to show they have got in a good investment and he can actually explain himself well show he has fire in his belly. over the past couple days he has been a little shaky on that. he has been practic over various ways he can do that. and show republicans who want a conservative that he actually is one of them. another big trick for him, anderson. >> yeah all belts are off about tomorrow night. dana want to dig deeper with our panel. joining me bill crystal, editor of the weekly standard and, jeffrey lord joins me former reagan white house political director and cnn political commentator and contributing editor for american spectator, and donna brazil vice chair of the dnc voter project. bill as you know i got to ask about "the washington post"
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article says former president clinton called donald trump a couple months ago before trump jumped into the race. you have been around politics an awful long time. are you prepared to rule out the clintons somehow encouraged trump to get into this campaign? >> they may well have. they attended his wedding of course. they're friend from new york. trump a major constituent of hillary clinton. i am sure bill clinton and donald trump get along. they're similar types. the irony is donald trump is doing much better than hillary clinton in my opinion. his lead is increasing. he is in the cat bird seat. hillary clinton is having a terrible month actually. the irony will be if bill clinton encourages donald trump to get in the race and trump survives longer than hillary clinton. >> donna, it does feed into conspiracy theories hard to imagine trump being any one's pawn. the idea that he is some sort of plant by the clintons to divide the republicans during the primary, the article certainly
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pours some gasoline on that although to bill's point whether it has the effect or not is arguable? >> the republicans feed off two emotions. fear and paranoia. in this case it is neither. the truth is that there were telephone exchanging. they finally got in touch with each other. it was before mr. trump announced. and i'm not surprised at all that bill clinton would take a call from donald trump or michael bloomberg for that matter bill crystal if he had his number. that being said look him ear clinton favorability is much hyperthan done ald from higher than donald trump. we know he is comfortable around the camera. he has been handling himself very well as a nonpolitician. the person who can tap into the outrage, the resentment that most americans feel about politicians right now. so i say advantage trump. advantage, ben carson. he is not a politician. the rest of the politicians better be on their a game. i think donald trump is going to bring it on tomorrow night.
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>> jeff in terms of advantage on that debate stage because of the time limits. you have 1:00 to explain your position. 30 second to respond. i mean that's -- that does help donald trump who has not fleshd out a lot of policy positions. >> you could deliver a lot of message in those few seconds. you can't deliver a lot of substantive policy positions without getting into the weeds and into the weeds quickly. you are right it does help him. and i would add having been on television for a long time in a professional sense, he knows what he is doing in front of that camera. i think, you know some of the others are going to have a problem with it. maybe not governor huckabee who has been. but for the rest it could be a problem. >> bill, at the outset of the campaign you were giving trump the benefit of the doubt. you have since soured on him. it is fair to say. do you think we are going to see a kinder gentler, policy specific donald trump. is there a more policy specific
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donald trump. >> i don't know about policy specific. he is capable of being affable, entertaining he can say tough things and go over the line. i was annoyed what he said about john mccain. i think he is capable of booingeing some what charming. we have underestimated the power of a certain kind of celeb ri team. the main thing is avoiding the political class mistakes. you said earlier, all the other campaigns are talking about their strategy and you lead the cnn report scott walker will spend a few million in iowa he wants to buck himself up in september. you never hear that from the trump people. trump seems to show up everywhere. he talks. when you interview trump. at his request, anderson. you do it in the atrium of his building. looks interesting, colorful, lively. everyone else is sitting in a studio looking like generic
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politician. you know trump, there is a kind of brilliance to trump in the way he handled the campaign so far. >> electorate is volatile at this time. i think he is tapping into something that is anti-washington, anti-politician, people who are disgusted. donald trump is out there saying you are absolutely right. things are bad. i can make america great again. so right now he sounds like somebody who is going to give you ice cream and cookies. but we don't know if it really -- if it is really the real deal. tomorrow night. game on. >> anderson. >> i went back and took a look at a december 1979 gallup poll. it had jimmy carter beating ronald reagan 60-36%. and there was a statement from hamilton jordan who was then the white house chief of staff who said they were salivating over running against ronald reagan. no one was going to vote for a right-wing ex-movie actor for president of the united states. and pat kadell quoted as saying
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"when you look at the data it just makes me salivate with all the things we can use against reagan." they were ready to go with this. of course things turned out a little differently than they thought. so you need to be careful here about getting what you wish for. >> you said that -- donna, earlier you said that hillary clinton had much better unfavorability ratings than donald trump. they're actually compraable in a number of polls. >> she is in the 40 percentile. any body announced they are running for president. >> 48. >> will eventually find themselves in a very unfavorable or underwater. the republican brand is under water. severely underwater. these politicians once you begin to take positions. once you got out there and get exposed as mr. trump will find out. right now he is on the upside. he is tapping to something into. he is in a volatile resentment lane. pretty soon once you take strong positions and spelling out substance i believe you he will be underwater freeing to swim back up to the top as well.
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>> bill -- >> anderson jeff mentioned reagan. i don't think trump is reagan. i don't think trump will be the nominee. what is trump's slow gavenlt itgan. reagan's was let's make america great again. trump is making america great again. trump knows what he is doing. and it is not just offering ice cream and cookies like donna said. in a way that i don't think ultimately is credible or sustainable. he is saying we are a great country. we can win. if i am in charge we'll be tougher abroad get things going at home. all the other politicians look like faded pastels compared to him. >> at the end of the day you can't do this. but the other politicians should learn for trump. looking for tomorrow night. who has learned something from trump in terms of presenting himself to the american public. >> bill it is interesting you say about -- he he kind of knows what he is doing. to your point about interviewing
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him in the lobby of the trump tower, absolutely what he wants. not a great place to interview, sound quality. lighting quality. from a technical standpoint it is difficult. but i think it does share multiple purposes. one it advertises trump tower. sort of looks kind of interesting. it is like a little side commercial for trump tower. plus it allows a group of people who happen to be there to gather and he also gets a boost from the people because they're all cheering him and applauding. and after you do the interview he brings you over to the people and said look at all these people. they like me. they're from all around the world. they're from mexico. they like me. it is a fascinating experience. bill crystal. good to have you. donald brazil. jeffrey lord. >> thank you. >> serious reality check for jeb bush and hillary clinton. supposed to carry the baton for respective political dynasties, now both are having some difficulties. we'll take a look at how much trouble they may actually be in.
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tonight two political insiders are getting a reality check on the eve of the first republican presidential debate. jeb bush who trailed donald
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trump in every recent poll is trying to regain footing from a stumble a remark about women's health funding. while hillary clinton's lead in the democratic field is slin shrinking. a new poll shows clinton and bernie sanders in a statistical tie. clinton with a six point lead. barely outside the margin of error. not long ago the two were considered shoo-ins for respective nominations. tom foreman takes a look. >> reporter: the race was shaking up as a clash of political dynasties. hillary clinton, accomplished politician and heir to her husband's democratic legacy. and republican jeb bush former governor in the third act of his family's long presidential drama. but since then both campaigns had been hobbled. >> people should and do trust me. >> reporter: for clinton the problem is the past. she has been dogged about questions about her home e-mail server while secretary of state.
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>> i did not send or receive anything classified at the time. >> reporter: questioned about her role in the pacific trade deal nuclear agreement with iran keystone excel pipeline and her cageiness at times has affected fans. >> when it's undecided when i become president i will answer your question. >> reporter: for bush the problems are the present. >> not sure we need $500 million for women's health issues. >> reporter: more often he is producing none at all or as when he commented on his father's legacy pundits have found him uninspiring. >> in fact i have a t-shirt that says jeb swag store, i'm the -- i'm -- my dad's the greatest man alive. if you don't like it i'll take you outside. >> reporter: through it all being elbowed right out of the limelight by donald trump. >> these politicians give up nothing. i watched jeb bush yesterday. he can't even put on a tie and jacket. he is running for president. >> reporter: bush suggests trump
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is pandering to voters uncertain about the future. >> i don't think politicians should prey. >> reporter: bush ended last year leading the republican pack with 23% support. and now donald trump is up top. and bush is duking it out with scott walker for second. clinton still has a commanding lead in her party. last spring 69% of democrats supported her. now it's 56%. polls show most voters still think the parties will go with bush and clinton as their nominees. but that was once a seemingly done deal and now it's just a prediction. it may or may not play out. anderson. >> tom thank you. i want to dig deeper with carl bernstein and gloria borger. carl the sense that things aren't clicking for jeb bush or hillary clinton, bad headlines, lack of enthusiasm in key wings of their parties. is something bigger going on here? or is it resistance to the two
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families? or just the two individuals? >> i think we can look to some polling data that tells us most people in this country do not want dynastic politics. the polling is thin. donald trump has hit a nerve by saying look enough of this kind of the old political classes. let's try something new here. let's try some straight talk even though the straight talk might be double talk. but nonetheless it feels straight. bill crystal who almost never do he and i agree on things. i think has this exactly right in terms of diet namethe dynamic. jeb bush has been the beneficiary of trump's candidacy because it has taken all the air away from scott walker from rubio, from cruz all these other people. there is one other thing that trump has got some real leverage. because if he were not to get the nomination which we can expect he won't, what if he
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decided well maybe i will run as a third party candidate? it would mean the republicans would lose. and if anything that the bush dynasty remembers is ross perot. they remember george bush senior junior and jeb bush all remember perot and blame perot for their father's loss to bill clinton. >> yeah. gloria we saw hillary clinton and jeb bush going at it on twitter last night over women's health funding. they seem more interested in attacking each other than going after any of their primary opponents. do they want to face each other in the general? is that part of it? they canceled the dynasty argument out for each other? >> first, always easier to attack somebody in the other party than to attack somebody who is in your own party. you know while they're facing primary opponents. but i think, there is an interesting thing here about hillary clinton and jeb bush. they are dynastic candidates.
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very different kind of dynasties, anderson. hers is more of a boutique operation, stemming from her husband. and jeb bush is really from a serious dynastic political family. it will be more difficult i believe for him to look like change than it will for hillary clinton because she is a woman. so she scan becan be married to bill clinton but just by virtue of her gender she looks different. and elections are very often about change. and jeb bush looks like he just wants to be the ceo of the family business. he has got to change that dynamic for himself. and i think this upcoming debate is an opportunity for him to look like somebody who has got passion and a plan and a real reason for wanting to be president. which he hasn't really fully presented yet.
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carl you wrote a become about hillary clinton. a fascinating book. what do you think is going wrong for her on the campaign trail? >> all most everything including the fact there is not a really credible opponent that is thought could go the distance and possibly win the nomination against her. she would do much better with a strong opponent that had a chance. i don't think bernie sanders in the end can do that. she is not a natural politician. and the distrust factor is based on a couple of things. one her enemies have been fabulously successful the clinton's enemies in landing blows about her fast and footloose times with sometimes with the truth. and the press has piled on. at the same time it is also very evident that a lot of it is unfair. but certainly not all of it. she has done a lot of it to herself. and the foundation of her candidacy is shaky. it will probably regain its
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footing because again unless somebody else gets in here that could really have a chance. and i don't think biden will go in the end. they're both bush and hillary clinton, they're looking to survive at this point the nominating process and then the two parties, bush clinton, republicans, democrats, can get back to the issues. she is very good on the issues. and the demographics favor her on the issues. she can be quite eloquent on issues. >> you know when you look at jeb bush and you look at him ear clinton -- they're very similar in many ways. not only from the fact that they come from these political families. but also they're both kind of wonky. they both would look to sit and do four hour debates talking about policy. they're not the best transactional politicians in their families. i mean we have seen the weakness of both jeb bush and him ear clinton on the campaign trail. so you know in a way they come
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from these political families but they're not the most natural politician thousands in them. and that's what we're seeing on the trail. >> yeah gloria thank you. carl bernstein as well. the latest on the breaking news in tennessee. an attack at a movie theater by a man armed with pepper spray, an ax and gun. what witnesses saw. and what authorities are now saying. when a moment spontaneously turns romantic why pause to take a pill?
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police released the attacker's name. we are reporting it tonight because they're still looking for information. vincente david montano, 29 years old of the nashville with a long history of psychiatric difficulties. they released a photo. the pistol the man was carrying into the theater. in addition to pepper spray, fake bomb and ax. an air soft pistol air pistol very realistic looking weapon but not a deadly one. it fires bbs. tonight the man carrying it is dead killed in a shootout with police. as i said police are looking for more information about him. details on how it all went down beginning to end with don aaron, i spoke just before air time.
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don this was a very quick response by the police department. i understand there were officers close by when the call came in? >> yes we, had two police officers working a motor vehicle crash on the streeten front of the movie theater parking lot. persons from the theater ran to them working the crash. the officers stopped what they were doing and immediately ran to the theater. our response to the theater after this gun, gunman or active shooter situation began was probably 60 to 90 seconds. >> and what did the officers see when they first entered the theater? >> the first officer entered the showing of "mad max." and actually encountered this individual as he entered the theater. the individual raised a gun toward the officer. the officer saw the trigger being pulled. our officer fired once. at the suspect and then backed away. actually keeping him contained in that showing of that movie
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"mad max." until other officers could converge on the scene. at that point were there still theater-goers in the theater? >> there were a total of eight persons in that particular movie including the gunman. he actually had altercations with some of the movie patrons. he doused a couple of women, significantly, with pepper spray and used his ax to cut the shoulder of one male movie goer. those persons were scrambling out of the theater as the police officers were arriving. when the police officers first saw the two women apparently his pepper spray had some type of red chemical compound inside it. and the officer saw red on the women's faces thinking that was perhaps blood. well in fact it was the chemical spray that this guy had used to
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dus douse their faces. >> after the first officer engaged with the gunman and then you said he backed out waited for other officers then what happened? >> our s.w.a.t. team converged on the scene. the s.w.a.t. team actually entered the theater. in between the initial confrontation with the first officer. the gunman deployed more chemical spray. the s.w.a.t. team reported as they entered there was a cloud inside the theater, significant irritant to their eyes their noses. ultimately they donned gas masks, continued into the theater. the gunman tried to go out through a rear door of this particular theater. when he did there were office officers waiting. there was an engagement with him there. the nashville police department fatally wounded the gunman there outside the movie theater. >> don, appreciate you joining us tonight. thank you. >> yes, sir.
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