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good evening. 9:00 p.m. on the east coast. our first look at who voters in ooh wa say they are supporting. the first cnn/orc polling on the race there. a sign that for the moment, donald trump defies political gravity. new iowa results for hillary clinton and new polling for new hampshire that may signal trouble for her there as well. chief national koement, john king has it all by the numbers. john, let's start with the new republican polling in iowa. donald trump not seeing the shift a lot of pundits predicted? >> no, quite the contrary. a lot thought the controversial debate may hurt him with republican voters, might run as a third party, showdown with megyn kelly. 22%. not only a lead healthy lead.
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13% for ben carson. if you are worried in iowa, you're scott walker. now in third place in our poll. jeb bush following done to 5%. say in the bush am skecampaign thought we would win iowa. carly fiorina, fifth placen iowa. nowhere before the debate. ted cruz moving up a little in iowa. move this over. look at predebate/post debate. scott walker was on top. now down here in third place. jeb bush was third. now he is down here in the middle of the pack. carson moves up from fourth to second. again the big winner, carly fichlt fiorina. sha shake-up in the field. donald trump is 27% support from iowa men. one trouble sign in our poll. this. 15% of iowa republican women support donald trump. bift bit of a warning sign. >> what is it they're saying they like about donald trump in iowa?
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>> they like him on the issues and disruptive force in politics. which republican candidate would most change washington? shake things up here? 35%. 35%, gap over the next republican for donald trump. on who would beep be best. who would be best on economy. who would be best on immigration. huge issues for republican voters. lead on terrorism and despite polls saying she would lose to clinton big. they think he is most electable. tea party important in the base. donald trump lead tea party voters. ben carson. huge trouble sign for cruz, walker. ed there a-- third and fourth. they need the tea party. donald trump blocking their path. >> hillary clinton loves iowa. though that was the state of her disappointment in 2008. look at brand new numbers given our conversation last night about new hampshire. ion wa. 50%. iowa, democrats seem to be sending a joe biden a message.
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spending the summer asking should i get in late. no clamoring for joe biden. strong number for hillary clinton. 50%, 31% over sanders. talked last night. bernie sanders plus seven in state of new hampshire. vermont, beating in new hampshire. welcome number to see clinton iowa. even though bernie sanders is for single payer health care. liberals tend to look that. in iowa they're saying we like hillary clinton. she wins on energy policy as well. she has a gender gap. runs about even with bernie sanders among men. look at this. six in ten, iowa democratic women are voting for hillary clinton. gender gap. huge factor and the lead in iowa at the moment. >> do the polls point to trouble spots for hillary clinton in iowa? >> there are trouble spots for hillary. similar everywhere. 28%, a poll of iowa democrats.
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only 28% find her honest and trust worthy. that means 70% doevenlt as e-mail investigation goes on at justice department and capitol hill. that's a number to keep an eye on. only 40%. the empathy question. which politician most understands the problem facing people look you. 40%. back hillary clinton. even with bernie sanders. if there are weaknesses for hillary clinton it's on trust and empathy. anderson. >> john. thanks very much. quick note. jeb bush speaking at a townhall in north las vegas, nevada. we'll be listening to see if he makes news there. we'll bring it to you. we played some in the last hour. let's degree deeper into what the poll numbers are saying. dana bash talked today with rising contender john kasich joins us. so does analyst david gergen. and "boston globe" reporter james pindell. you let out a gasp when you heard hillary clinton's trustworthy number there? >> whoa, among democrats in iowa. down in the 20s in terms of trust.
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>> worrying. >> an astonishing number. it may reflect some of the things the story is going on about her e-mail server and all the rest. but those are very troublesome numbers, anderson. >> is it hard to turn those around? something like trust worthiness? >> an interesting question. i do think it's hard to turn it around you. have to earn people's trust. you can't do it in a single speech. it has got to come over time. if you are running her campaign. she obviously has all of the substantive background. everybody knows who hillary clinton is. all the name id. she has to work on being transparent. and sort of look, every step of the way, like working with the press, taking down the barriers with the press and all the rest. but a bbig number. the big story out of the poll tuesday is that american voters, angry voters are on the march. it's very early in the process. but who is surging in both parties? all anti-establishment candidates. trump, carson, fiorina, bernie sanders. of the first three, republicans
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never held public office. and for the most important big public office in the land. >> dana, you are in new hampshire. the poll showing clinton trailing bernie sanders. a state where she and -- former president bill clinton they go back nearly 25 years. big organization there. how big a deal are the new numbers for her in new hampshire. you are right. where bill clinton became the comeback kid. by overcoming all of his problems. with stories about his affairs and so forth. this is what was the beginning of the beginning for him in the nomination process in '92. the answer to your question is -- two things for bernie sanders here. one is he is almost a local. from vermont. there is the connection there t culturally, otherwise. but also because historically people in new hampshire democrats, republicans, independents they lack to show other states and the media, the establishment, that they're not
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going to be told who to pick. i think that is, a big part of what's going on here. you know certainly him ear clinton did well here in 2008. but it is a different time. a different era. and he is appealing -- she is a pe appealing not just to democrats but in new hampshire you don't have to have party dm mon str s demonstrations. he has that appeal. >> james, i want to bring you in. you cover new hampshire politics very, very close the i know you take issue with the latest new hampshire poll. that said, other surveys have shown bernie sanders closing in on hillary clinton there. so whether or not you buy this latest cnn/orc poll. what do you think he is doing right in new hampshire? >> i think the problem with the cnn poll in iowa, do have a problem with this, an outlier, first poll showing him winning by 7. the most credible poll, a couple days ago showed him down by 6. there is no one in new hampshire
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tonight that believes bernie sanders is winning. but this poll changed the conversation, had a lot of people ask the question -- well what if? what is exactly going on here? i was with hillary clinton yesterday. been with bernie sanders on the ground in new hampshire. the mood is just different. with hillary clinton. you get the sense that people think they're going to see the next president of the united states. there is more of an infrastructure. clearly obviously there is secret service involved. there its more of a campaign infrastructure. how people get invited. with bernie sanders it is a protest rally. people are having fun. the point of the, the point of the campaign event is the, campaign event not to seat particular canned day. i think bernie sanders accepts the premise that he is a representation of a lot of things. not about him. it's about, not being for hillary. it's about finally standing up with a person who is a socialist or progressive values.
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there is a ditch rent mrood there. we head into the fall. the campaign gets more serious. bernie sanders will have to flip the conversation to say no i can be the nominee. this is how this would work. >> interesting, david, a hard thing to do. >> it is a hard thing to do. i do want to say, i am sure that living next door does help him. but, we shouldn't put too much on that after all. in iowa, you know, walker is down now. governor walker. he is only a harley ride away from the voters over there. he is having real trouble with it. i thought the other thing that was interesting coming out of the new hampshire poll. i'm not sure i -- sure how reliable the poll is. but nonetheless, the number. plurality of people that thought joe biden ought to get in and inviting him to get in. that is also a warning sign about the enthusiasm level. hillary clinton's issue the last time around. in 2008 how does she generate
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enthusiasm. her husband had a natural gift. more of a strug for hgle for he. >> if people believe bernie sanders can't make it to the white house but see him as a pre test candidate maybe that is encouraging for joe biden? >> oh, absolutely. no question. you know if joe biden is seriously looking at this as we have every reason to believe he its. he is look saying, wait a minute. if hillary clinton is whack enough to -- to, allow all of these potential democratic voters to get all excite add but somebody who is not hillary clinton what about me? joe biden is beloved among democrats and republicans. not sure he will fly as the the alternative candidate. he is more establishment. different from him ear clintlla but similar not going to get the grassroots going as bernie sanders did. bernie sanders who stood up in the senate and opposed a lot of
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the administration's nominees on principle >> on dana's point. one thing interesting in the iowa poll, cnn poll was that it found that if joe biden did not get into the contest, a lot of his support, you would think would be anti-hillary support, automatically go to bernie sanders. no, if joe biden is not in the race a lot saw part goes to hillary sclin clin and her lead grows. >> interesting. james great to have you on. david, dana, as well. coming up next more on the people behind the bernie sanders surge. stadium sized crowds and what they seen this unconventional candidate. and dr. sanjay gupta on jimmy carter's revelation today he has cancer and that it spread. something that felt like... home? and now you can't connect the way you used to... because you switched wireless carriers and are getting a less reliable connection. it's okay. we're still here for you
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>> we talked at the top of the broadcast, new polling and what we can glean about the state of the race. people for the most part don't flk flock to a candidate, the numbers reflect the fact that something about the candidate is resonating with voters. certainly true for barack obama. true for donald trump. as far as republicans are concerned. on the democratic side, as well for bernie sanders. he is filling stadiums like a rock star, though he is old enough off to be mick jagger's slightly older brother. martin savage reports. >> reporter: which candidate draws a bigger crowd? hillary clinton, jeb bush or donald trump? the answer. bernie sanders. by far.
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saturday in seattle the democratic presidential hopeful drew 15,000 people. the next day in portland, annest mated 2,000. that's the biggest crowd for any candidate so far in the 2016 race. and the senator from vermont has been gaining momentum. a favorite supporter rallying cry is, feel the burn. >> this campaign is sending a message to the billionaire class. yes, we have the guts to take you on. >> on the surface the 73-year-old may not look like a political fire brand, but he has a history of standing out and standing up for what he believes in. he calls himself a democratic socialist and is the longest serving independent member of congress in u.s. history. >> bernie sanders is really one of the most interesting characters in the senate. he is within of two independents, historically called himself a socialist. and yet he has been able to work
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across the aisle in recent years with republicans to solve some really major problems. >> born in brooklyn to jewish parents he want to james madison high school, became a socialist and acted in the civil rights movement. in vermont heap lost his first run as a political office. and then elected may your of burlington by ten votes. next, came the u.s. congress. but it was in the senate where he became nationality known, especially for his fill buster against extending bush era tax cuts. in april, sanders decided what's been good for vermont would be good for the nation. >> i am proud to announce my candidacy for president of the united states of america. >> reporter: the same issues that motivated him in the past are now campaign themes of the present. the gap between rich and poor, education, immigration, and racial inequality in the justice system. >> bernie is not tailoring his speeches to the agenda.
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the agenda has caught up with bernie sanders. >> the senator from vermont may be a long shot to win it all. but fans say he brings something to the democratic ticket hillary clinton so far has not. excitement. martin savage, cnn. >> a lot of excitement. joining me is sander's campaign manager, jeff weaver. good to have you on. ahead of hillary clinton in new hampshire according to the latest cnn poll, a can trast from five months ago, when sanders had 8% of likely democratic voters in the state. what do you think is happening? what are you hearing from the crowd and people coming out to see your candidate? >> look, anderson if i told you four month as go, bernie sanders would be ahead in new hampshire you would have laughed. this weekend we had 70,000 people combined at three rallies on the west coast. what's happening people are responding to bernie's message. they can't afford the higher cost of college education, see
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the growing gap between the rich and the poor. see stagnant wages. bernie sanders speaks to what they feel in their daily lives. that's what's happening in the campaign. people are responding to that. >> our earlier guest, many people see it as a protest rally that they don't necessarily think, you look at the poll numbers also show while people support sanders they think clinton will secure the nomination. how big of a problem is that for sanders? >> look, we are going to keep talking about, use important to people. polls will go up and down. hundred of thousand of people have, sent money to bernie sanders. they're not doing that because they're pro testing. they're doinging that because they want real change in the united states. he embodies that. that's what they're responding to. so, people from the beginning of this campaign have found reasons to stay whey y he can't win. he'll never break through. he cut hillary clinton's lead in half in iowa. ahead now in new hampshire. seen polls in other places. oregon. four points back. of a campaign on the move.
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a campaign about, use. >> you don't feel that you kind of have to address that directly that, that idea that he went be able to actually get to the white house. you feel just by focussing on the same issues he is focusing on. people will come around? >> they will come around. a number of polls done, in some battleground states that show he does as well or in some cases better than secretary clinton against republicans. so we are confident that once he has the nomination he will be able to secure the white house. the excitement he is bringing to this campaign. it is going to help elect democrats up and down the bat local. >> there are others comparing your candidate in some ways to donald trump. both saying they're nonestablishment candidates. obviously, senator sanders has a long time in washington. others compared him to howard dean and the enthusiasm dean once brought. what do you make of both the comparisons? >> i think they're flawed. i worked with bernie sanders 30
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years. people see a man of conviction. who is talking about the real economic hurt that they're feeling. and they're responding to him, anderson. that's what's happening here. it's not, he is not a reality show star. a real deal, speaking to the hurt. >> what about the rumblings of biden entering the race. how concerned would your campaign be if he would take votes from sanders. >> the voters will decide which candidate they feel is best able to address the issues that they're concerned about. and we're pretty confident that's going to be bernie sanders regardless of who is in the race. >> you got to say it would be more competition? >> well, it would change the dynamics of the race. not sure i would describe it in that way. >> jeff weaver. great to have you. >> thank you, anderson. >> donald trump, reacting to new polling, and the tone of his interview with jake tapper might surprise you. feeling intense lower back pain?
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>> for weeks political pundits have been marveling of donald trump's appeal for republican voters and noth sheing he says does can dent his lead in the poll. after the poll came out, jake tapper asked him about it. here is a portion of the conversation.
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>> i think i was mistreated a little bit. that is okay. i am really honored by your call. and 22%. a big number. a really big number. and so it is a great honor. thank you. >> not even a month ago, governor walker was leading in iowa. now he is in third place behind you and behind dr. ben carson. why do you think he slipped? why do you think carson is rising? >> you know if you look at wisconsin they're having some trouble. they have pretty big deaf sific. $2.2 billion. different than the $1 billion they were supposed to make. it hurts obviously. people are seeing the numbers. a lot of divisiveness and dissension, not an easy journey. a great state. i love the state. it has the not been an easy journey. maybe people see that. and his numbers certainly have been affected because you are right about a month ago in a couple polls i was actually
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number two and number three. and now i am number one by quite a margin. i am very honored by that. >> we are told that you told "the chicago-sun times" you would strongly kid a woman as your runningmate should you get the nomination. is there any particular woman or women on your short list? >> no, they asked me the question. a terrific reporter, some one i have a lot of respect for. and i said, very openly that i would be very, very delighted if they were the right person. but it would be a great honor to have a woman as a runningmate. if we had the right person i would certainly kid that. it's obviously too soon to think about it. they immediately wanted to know, who? who? i would certainly think about that and kid it. >> this week the democratic front-runner hillary clinton responded to news of your campaign, take a listen. >> it's all entertainment. you know, i think he is having the time of his life. you know? being up on that stage. saying whatever he wants to say. getting people excited both for
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and against him. i didn't know him that well. i mean i knew him. i knew him. and, i happen to be planning to be in florida. i thought it would be fun to go to his wedding because it is always entertaining. now that he is running for president it is a little more troubling. >> a little more troubling what is your reaction, sir? >> will she is right about one thing. i am enjoying it. i was, last night as you probably heard. in fact you put it all over your show. i was in michigan. an amazing crowd. we had 3,000 people. they turned away a tremendous number of people. the place just couldn't hold anymore. it was, an absolutely fabulous evening. and it was -- you know standing ovations all over the place. i talked about the wall. i talked about china with the devaluation of their currency which they did yesterday which is shocking that they could get away with this. what they're doing to us is unbelievable. with devaluation. and they're just taking the money out of our pocket. we have people don't know what they're doing. we talked about the iran deal. how pathetic it is, how bad it is. and we had a -- a good time
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talking about horrible subjects to be honest with you. it was, you know there is not a lot of good news for the united states. >> an response, any response to hillary clinton saying that, you have gone from entertaining to troubling? >> well i think the poll numbers sort of indicate that maybe it's troubling for her. i think that i would be her, you know, worst nightmare. in a sense. i think nobody has been tougher on hillary. ichl's the one that said a long time ago to you, matter of fact. long before this has come up with the fbi over the last few days. that what she did is a criminal act. there is no question about the fact it is a criminal act. you look at general petraeus. they destroyed his life over something much less, you know, the documents were much less important. much less high level. i mean what she did is a real problem for her. i don't know frankly that she will be able to run because it just looks to me that, that, the whole e-mail thing is, a very criminal situation. could cause problems for years to come. >> mr. trump i'm told you have to go. appreciate your calling in. taking my questions as always,
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sir. thank you. >> thank you very much, jake. >> next, jeb bush's gamble. brings up iraq and takes aim at hillary clinton.
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lot of talk about jeb bush's attack last night on hillary clinton. governor bush spoke at the reagan presidential library in simi valley, california. he brought up iraq, touchy subject. draws attention to his brother
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former president george w. bush led the u.s. to war there. mr. bush fumbled a question about the war three months ago now blaming mrs. clinton and president obama for the rise of isis in iraq. >> no leader or policy maker involved will claim to have gotten everything right in the region. iraq especially. yet in a long experience that includes failures of intelligence and military set backs one moment stands out in memory as the turning point we had all been waiting for. and that was the surge. who can seriously are gu th lly america and our friend are safer today than in 2009. when the president and secretary clinton, the storied team of rivals took office. so eager to be the history maker. they failed to be the peace makers. it was a case of blind haste to go out. and to call the tragic consequences somebody else's problem. rushing away from danger scanca every bit as unwise of rushing
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into danger. the costs have been grievous. >> no direct response from mrs. clinton. if jeb bush wants to spread blame for the situation in the middle east he doesn't need to look much farther than his next family reunion. i want to talk about with fareed z zakaria, and ari fleisher, former press secretary for george w. bush. what did you think about what jeb bush had to say about iraq? >> if you look at the speech on the whole. it was case pointing. jeb bush is a very intelligent man. i met him. talked to him. when you hear him on something, education, immigration, he is smart, passionate. foreign policy interestingly, interestingly given who his father was, is, is his, seems to be a bit of a weak spot. he had trouble answering the question about iraq. was asked five times. in the debates if you, overschadd dead by t
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overschadd -- overshadowed by donald trump, jeb bush was somewhat weak on foreign policy answers. you would think this would be the opportunity to lay out a kind of big vision for foreign policy, something that was grand, something that really spoke to his world view. instead it was scattered. a bunch of pot shots. of course against the iran dechlt adeal and a curious take on iraq in which history begins in 20007 with the success of the surge not looking at the prior five years and the actual invasion of iraq. >> ari, is there a danger for jeb bush frying trying to turn something critics see as a liability connection to his brother's approximately seizepo turn that to hillary clinton. >> not in the republican primary, in a republican primary you can never be too critical of hillary clinton no matter what your last name is. i thought the speech was a traditional republican speech,
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fitting at the reagan library, peace through strength. and achieve peace through strength by doing what many in the military say need to be done in order to do what president obama said which was to degrade and ultimately destroy isis because we are never going to be great or destroy isis the way things are going right now. so in that sense, i thought the speech hit all of the right policy notes. the taking on of hillary. remember jeb is running in a republican primary. hillary is not popular. and hillary is secretary of state, does have a lot of explaning to do, a lot of -- explaining to do and a lot of answers to give and has to be held accountable for what happened on her watch. >> and yet, fareed, he does run the risk of reminding voters not only of his connection to his brother and his father previously? >> yeah, it is an odd strategy. if you really want to look at what the fatal mistake was in terms of the, creation of isis, he says the fatal mistake was obama withdrawing our forces done to zero. well, i think a lot of people
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would say the fatal mistake was invading iraq. another one you might say is a fatal mistake then handing over power to the pro-iranian shiite parties that turned out to have a much closer relationship with iran than with the united states. you know, you could, you have to get a long way to get to the obama withdrawal. and by the way, that was a withdrawal mandated by a policy george w. bush had signed. bush before he left office said, "all american troops" signed agreement with iraqi government "all american troops will be out by 2011." so again it was, an odd thing to, to put your, to put your stakes on. ari is right. he does talk about peace through strength with regard to isis. but frankly, there is a lot of boilerplate. he says, there is an internal contradiction. he criticizes obama's half-measures, and obama is guilty of half-measures no question. of course we deon't want combat
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troops or american troops on the ground. you are against half-measures and against whole measures what are you in favor with. >> a ricri, you were working wi george w. bush, how did he navigate, dealing with his father's approximately see apol voters knew he was his own man when it came to iraq and issues? >> great question. as the bush spokesman in 1999-2000, during the presidential run what was different between george w. bush and his father. those questions started to fade, the president, governor, starred taking positions, spoke on taxes, energy, foreign policy. inevitable and natural course of a campaign the i do get a kick out of the fact that any time foreign policy and iraq, everyone runs to equate jeb bush with george w. bush. when it comes to ethics, personal behavior.
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are people equating hillary with bill though they have the same last name. i think it is a very unfair, one-way treatment of jeb when everybody knows he is his own person. he will make his own judgments. >> ari, how much do you think it hurt's jeb bush's argument he is his own man when it comes to foreign policy when a large portion of his foreign approximately spolicy worked for his brother. >> large part of george w. bush's team came from his father. gerald ford. there are only a few predecessors. it is inevitable you will have people from your predecessors. >> ari, faree, thank you both. >> former president jimmy carter says he has cancer. his father. brother and two sisters all died of an especially variety of the cancer, pancreatic cancer, i will speak to dr. sanjay gupta and what we now know about the 90-year-old's former president's condition. next. ♪
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sad news tonight, former president jimmy carter has cancer. discovered when he had a small mass removed from his liver. he says it spread to other parts of his body. the former president is 90 years old. his family has a history of pancreatic cancer. not sure if this cancer, where this cancer, i should say, originated. president obama released a statement wishing the former
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president a fast and full recovery. and spoke with him this evening. our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta joins me with more. sanjay, a lot we don't know about the diagnosis. what does this mean for the former president? >> well, some of the details are going to help make that picture a little clearer. clearly this is a cancer, it sound like, in or around the liver. around the liver, you have the gall bladder, you have the pancreas. cancer of any of the areas is obviously a pretty significant thing. what we hear today is that he had this operation ten days ago back on august 3rd. now they're saying in addition to that particular mass there is evidence that this cancer has spread beyond that area of the body as well. so, sound like he is going to get therapy which can come in the form of chemotherapy most likely. once they sort of give a better idea of exactly how big this cancer is, what it is exactly, how far it has spread, you are going to have a better idea. but anderson to your point for a
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younger person certainly this is a significant cancer. he is 90 years old. it will be tougher for him to endure that. >> obviously age is a major factor here? >> no question. i mean, age is a factor for a lot of reasons. one, just, how your body actually toll rates terates the and tolerates the therapy. having said that there are certain cancers of people of elderly age. they just develop them as they get older. most of the data we have are on people who are older. 90 years old. a significant toll on him no matter how you look ate. >> his parents, all his siblings died of pancreatic cancer is that something he would have been monitored for because of the family history? >> very likely. it is a pretty remarkable story, you may know. you mention, his father and every one of his siblings died of pancreatic cancer. his mother developed pancreatic
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cancer as well. unclear if she died of that or not. a really, really significant family history. what doctors will typically do and what president jimmy carter had done is he did get monitored through scans for some time. cat scans to look to see if. even if you didn't have any symptoms at all might you be developing signs of an early cancer. several years ago, it sound like he stopped doing those scans. as he got older in age. and was just doing blood tests. what likely happened over the last couple of months one of the blood tests came back and showed something abnormal. and that's what sort of prompted this, this, most recent operation. ten days ago. >> we certainly wish him the best. sanjay, thank you. >> thank you. >> up next, tonight, one of the greatest art heists in history. and enduring mystery, $500 million of masterpieces stolen from a boston museum 25 years age now investigators are hoping newly released video is going to help them some the case. zeitli♪ is man kind? are we good?
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the night before two men broke into the gardner museum. those men made off with 13 works of art. valued at $500 million. rick abott was one of the guard on duty. just 23 years old then. we spoke to him in february, 2013. his only television >> after the first guard levers
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to do his security rounds, the man outside approaches the museum. the guard at the desk presses the door's buzzer. but the man doesn't enter. instead, he returns to his car and turns on the parking lights. after he heads back to the museum and is, once again, buzzed inside. this time, he does enter through the same door the thieves would enter through the very next night. the man appears to go through some paperwork at the guard deskendes desk. then disappears for about three minutes inside the museum, out of view of this particular security camera. it's unclear what he was doing or why he was there in the middle of the night. investigators want to know if this video was some sort of dry run for the real thing. they say the car seen in the video everyone matches the general description of the video seen parked outside the museum the night of the theft. the f.b.i. released the tape hoping the public can identify the mystery man.
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>> could this man have anything to do with the break-in on the night of the heist? and why did the museum security guard let strangers into the museum two nights in a row. rick abbot has never been charged in connection with the crime. but he's never been oficially cleared, either. >> once i sat down with the f.b.i., i think the first thing i said was what do you want to know? i knew. i was, like, well, i'm the man looking out the door. they're obviously going to be looking at me. >> our calls to abbot were not returned. on the night of the theft, the panic button was never act valt vated allowing the thieves to take their time. that was 25 years ago. and despite a $5 million reward, the artwork has never been returned. >> randy joins me now. has anyone ever come forward?
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>> i kiddid speak with an attor and he said he has a client who does recognize the man in the video. he says that this man was also in the antiques business. he says he's not going to give his client's name because his client is apareparently afraid t he's going to be killed. miles connor anderson was a notorious art thooef e thief. he actually stole a rembrandt in the boss tton museum of fine ar. they have given his name and address to federal investigators. >> they have? >> um-hmm. so they'll be looking into it. >> and over the years, they kind of named some people? >> they have named some people. and just a couple of years ago, they said we know who did this. they said they were members of a criminal organization. bru t but the f.b.i. told us the stolen monet was seen in an apartment.
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that man is now dwed. dead. the monet was never recovered. nobody dead or alive has ever been ruled out as a suspect, including all of those museum employees. none of them have ever been cleared. >> and were there other security cameras elsewhere in the museum? >> there were. unfortunately, we don't pick up where this guy went. but there were other security cameras. and the last stop, when they were in there for 81 minutes, they spent all of that time picking which pieces of art they wanted. they were very specific. and they made some really odd choices, as well. but they were specific. and the very last stop was they stopped at the security room, as they called it. they took all the security camera video. they must have known they were being picked up on the tape. maybe they missed this one or maybe it's not related at all and investigators are just hoping that it is. so we really don't know.
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but they did take all of that video. >> it's incredible that all of these years later. >> 25 years later with a $5 million reward. they think it might still be in the new england, the at lantic area. >> yeah, because you can't just resell it. >> and that's all they really want. the statute of limb tagszs has run out. all they want is that artwork back. 13 pieces of art. >> wow. randi kaye, thank you very much. before we go, we want to quickly bring you up to date on a story that will likely be developing into the night. >> that massive explosion in china's fourth largest city, the death toll now stands at 17, upwards of 300 people have been hurt in and around this massive fire ball. the pictures are just incredible. the blast happened at a warehouse in the port city of
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some 15 million people. it's unclear what caused the blast. marshal law is in effect in the area. that does it for us. we'll see you again at 11:00 p.m. eastern when another edition of "360." "cnn tonight" starts now. >> donald trump takes the lead in the crucial state of iowa and takes aim right at hillary clinton. listen to what he tells cnn today. >> what she did is a real problem for her. i don't know, frankly, that she'll be able to run. it just looks to me that the whole e-mail thing is a very criminal situation. and it could cause problems for years to come. >> is donald trump right? could this spell big trouble for the clinton campaign? tonight, we're going to talk to two people who know exactly what it's like to run in a crowded republican field.

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