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electricity to power america's grid. france has the highest percentage of its power generated by nuclear at about 75%. thanks to all of you for being part of my program this week. i will see you next week. good morning. i'm brian stelter. "reliable sources" will begin in a moment. first there are new developments about the story we've been covering all morning long here on cnn. wreckage has apparently been located from the indonesian passenger plane missing earlier today. the plane was carrying 54 people. it lost contact with air traffic control shortly before its scheduled arrival. cnn's david molko is in spinning apor with the latest. david, there was a press conference held from the local authorities. what are they saying? >> reporter: officials now saying that they believe that there were reports of villagers seeing this plane crash into the side of a mountain, extremely
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rugged terrain, hard to get communication, hard to get access to. they've suspended the search overnight. i should caution, though, that these are early reports coming in. they are stressing they have to see it with their own eyes and verify it. they'll be able to do that when the sun comes up. what this is calling into question, 54 people on board this flight, once again, is indonesia's safety records when it comes to maintenance and training. brian, it was only a matter of months ago that we saw the air asia flight go down in the java sea. less than two months ago a military cargo plane with more than 130 people on board crashed. indonesia says it's working hard to make improvements across the board but this, once again, calling into question the reality here, brian, 54 passengers and crew, including some children, may very well have lost their lives. brian. >> david, thank you for the update. the unfortunate update from there. cnn will stay on top of the story all day long.
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turning to "reliable sources," we have some great stories ahead for you, including a close-up look at the sense orship journalists face in china. concerns from bernie sanders fans about press bias. the biggest media standoff of the week. there is a full-blown cold war now between donald trump and fox news. it all stems from the way megyn kelly questioned trump at the first gop debate. we were talking about trump attacking fox and whether he actually referred to kelly's menstrual cycle while criticizing her. there was a flurry of phone calls between trump and the powerful fox news boss roger ailes. on monday the two men seemed to strike a truce. trump stopped attacking fox and fox started covering him again. then, kelly went on vacation.
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you're probably wondering why is that a big deal? it shouldn't have been a big deal. she deserved a vacation. rumors were flying saying she had been sidelined by ailes or to apiece trump. the rumors are not true but trump was asked if he saw a connection between kelly's time off and the debate fallout. here is what he said. >> there probably was but i wouldn't know about it. i hope she is well and feeling fine. i hope she comes back and she's going to be fair and good, and i'm sure that will happen. i'm sure roger will make it happen because he is a fair guy, and he wants things to run smoothly. so yes, people were very, very surprised that all of a sudden she decided to go away for ten or 11 or 12 days. but that's okay. i mean, some people make those quick decisions. >> fox fired back right away with a statement saying the conspiracy theories about megyn
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kelly's vacation rank up there with ufo's, the moon landing and elvis being alive. it was called irresponsible and down right bizarre. trump brushing off the criticism in iowa yesterday. >> i love roger ailes but all you have to do is ask roger ailes who won. i don't think i've made any mistakes. i'm sure i will at some point, but so far you would have to say it hasn't worked out badly, right? >> i wonder how roger ailes will react to that. i wonder what bill o'reilly will say tomorrow. >> a man who has known trump for decades is here to answer questions. the big question in the media industry is who needs trump more? >> roger, thanks for being here. >> thank you very much for inviting me. >> i am interested in hearing your assessment of this so-called truce between fox and trump. let me start at the beginning, which is the debate. ten days ago.
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was it smart political strategy for trump to go after the moderators like megyn kelly? >> the voters are fed up with clear politicians in the political system and fed up with the elite media. they're tired of the media taking one part of what you say and not all of what you say. i frankly think there was no downside. as far as the debate itself, i frankly think trump won that exchange by first converting the question away from women to politically correctness and then basically saying i am what i am. if you don't like it, that's too bad. >> are you saying fox is part of the elite media? >> i'm saying that the voters see commentators in general as in bed with the politicians. everybody scratching everybody else's back. fox is a powerhouse. eight out of ten primary voters are watching fox. in my opinion fox needs trump because fox is about ratings. roger ailes isn't trying to elect or not elect anybody. he is about the success of his channel, the success of his
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network, and he's about ratings. 24 million people is nothing to sniff at. ailes is a genius. >> you mentioned roger ailes not wanting to get people elected. a lot of people think he does want to see republicans in power and that's part of what he strives to do with fox news. why do you say that's not the case. >> no question he has his personal beliefs. first and foremost he is in the entertainment and news business. he wants to build his network. he recognized trump would be great television. 24 million people is nothing to sniff at. >> you're saying it's a mutually beneficial relationship when it's going well between them. >> i'm not going to characterize what the relationship is like. there is a disproportionate fox to the importance of republican primary voters. right now trump is a rock star. >> does fox need trump more than trump needs fox? is it more than a one-way relationship? >> i think they're good for each
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other. trump brings ratings to fox and they're in the ratings business. fox allows trump to reach the very voters that he needs to get nominated. so it's a good thing. >> over the weekend, actually this time last weekend we saw fox basically ignore trump and once ailes and trump got on the phone they seemed to make nice and fox ratcheted coverage of tr trump back up. >> he's back. donald trump joins us on the line. good morning to you. glad you're back with us and you're friends with us again. >> we've always been friends. great to be back with you. >> let's start with the elephant in the room. the fox issue is resolved. how did that come about? >> i have a great relationship with roger ailes. actually i didn't understand what went wrong because i felt it wasn't really -- i was not treated fairly beings and roger called me the other day, and it's absolutely fine. >> now, that was as of tuesday. it seems like the tensions have ratcheted back up, though. on friday we heard trump talking about megyn kelly's vacation.
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fox came on the record and called it bizarre that trump was speculating about her vacation plans. do you think the truce will hold between these two titans of media and business? >> i have no idea. and i'm not privy to the conversations. presidential politics is about big, sweeping issues. this is all process. donald trump is running against 15 pigmies and a brilliant brain surgeon. he is not running against fox news. the american people want to see him run but with iran and china. this is all process and maybe we're interested in it because we're junkies and we are into the political thing. >> sure. >> but the voters, they want to see your big-picture vision. >> if these tensions worsen between fox and trump, do you think it's possible for him to win without fox? >> well, fox is, as i said earlier, reaching a disproportionate number of the voters and they're going to play a major role in the republican party. >> so maybe it's not possible? >> it's very hard to say.
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there are other conservative media outlets that are significant, and talk radio is significant. news max is significant. breitbart and significant. those are dwarfed by the power of fox. >> it's a testament to roger ailes that he's been able to settlement that base of republican voters around fox. >> he knows who his viewers are and how to speak to them. fox represents middle class values. that's why it works so well in the hinterlands. they've built an extraordinary company and they're reaching the very people that all the republican candidates have to reach. >> roger, thanks for being here. >> great to be here. a fascinating conversation. really talking about the fox primary here. for more on it let me bring in jackie qualm, a veteran political correspondent for the new york times. she took time off harvard's media school to research politics. great to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> let me ask you a version of
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the question i asked roger stone. with the feud between trump and fox, if it continues to heat up. a cold war now. if it becomes more of a hot war, do you think trump can win without fox news and the big conservative audience it provides? >> i'm not so sure he has to win without fox news. if he's winning fox will want to be covering him. it will be up to him whether he gives them the time. he'll have the interest in giving them the time. it's interesting to me because fox -- he has hit at a number of institutions, women, veterans through john mccain, he has come out all right. he is a candidate at a time when people are against institutions generally, big institutions and fox is a big institution. >> that's exactly what stone was saying as well, the elite media. when you were researching this topic, was your takeaway that some of the media outlets that some of them are on the payroll? there was a report last week
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from buzzfeed that trump or his allies have been paying breatet barth's website. what do you make of that possibility? >> there are a number of conservative media supported by investors, businessmen and conservative groups, including sha sean hannity, heritage action. senate's conservatives fund. it's on the record. they've given money to talk radio and supported them and, you know, then there has been this question of giving, you know, the conservative media people give voice to the positions that the conservative advocacy groups, which are generally anti-establishment as well. they hate the republican leadership. and so there is a sort of financial link between conservative media and the conservative advocacy groups and businessmen and investors. >> your main takeaway from your research was that -- the title of your paper even -- they don't
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give a damn about governing. is it the conservative media powers, the rush limbaugh's of the world, they're not necessarily interested in what the republican establishment is interested in. where does trump fall in that? he's clearly anti-establishment. >> right. that's part of the secret of his appeal. could i interject that the title of my paper, "they don't give a damn about governing" is not me saying that. that was taken from a quote from a republican former 20-year veteran lawmaker who was on the record and so i just wanted to add that. >> good. i'm glad you clarified that. you were trying to share what they are all saying about this media -- >> right. >> -- situation. >> right. trump is anti-establishment. he is tapping into something. because as much as fox is valued by conservative voters as roger stone alluded to and remains really popular, the pugh research center found that about half of self-identified
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conservative voters get their information from fox -- still, i found, to my surprise somewhat, that there is a really healthy strain on the right of people who have now grown suspicious of fox news as well. and even before that fox news debate i picked up a lot of complaints from people who are for ted cruz, for instance. >> yeah. >> that fox was freezing him out. >> good point. that's what trump in some ways is referring to or responding to. jackie, thanks for being here this morning. >> thanks for having me. we are just getting started. it is the weekend, of course, the iowa state fair. lots of coverage on television this weekend. we'll go live to the fairgrounds coming up. we think about iowa, every four years. we're opening up our time machine and look at some embarrassing predictions from past primary elections. stay tuned. it's more than the cloud.
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but let's put this horse race into perspective. let's try to find some collective memory and look back four years ago this week. because that's when michele bachmann emern emerged as a sec tier candidate. >> once considered a french candidate bachmann starts as the front runner in first of the nation caucus state iowa. >> the winner of the 2011 iowa straw poll is congress women michele bachmann. >> that cements her position as a serious player in this race. >> what about michele bachmann? >> she is my hero. she is going all the way. she is going to win this thing. i predict she beats romney. >> surprises in the latest poll which shows herman kane is leading the republican pack. >> herman cane has come from nowhere to establish himself as one of the frontrunners.
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>> thankfully the internet has a good memory because we can find those clips and remind us all about all that commentary. you know the saying. the race to the white house isn't a sprint, it's a marathon. if you follow the polls back in 2011, look back at the records, it was more of a relay race. bachmann ended her front runner status and handed it off to rick perry. who would rise and fall to herman cain and handed it off to newt gingrich. this issue is not new. you guys know it's not. go back eight years. the media was enthralled with another candidate who would never become president. >> in the republican party, the party trying to hang on to the white house for a third straight term, there is evidence that, while there are behind the democrats in the polls, a republican leader has emerged. >> rudy giuliani is the frontrunner. >> let me ask you about rudy
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giuliani. i believe he is not only running, i think he's going to win this whole thing the way things look right now. >> the abc washington post poll says a lot of people favor rudy giuliani. >> the two frontrunners, rudy giuliani versus hillary clinton. >> one more year to go. >> speaking of hillary clinton, most of us have forgotten all of these predictions about her from the summer of 2007. >> senator hillary clinton has long been the front runner in a crowded democratic field. earlier this year some questioned her ability to go the distance. a new poll shows she is widening her lead. >> senator clinton is in the middle of a pretty good stretch right now. the fundamental question. can she be denied. >> if you looked at hillary clinton in the last debate, she was very strong. she is standistancing herself f
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her candidates. >> she is gaining momentum. i would have to say at this point hillary has it in the bag. >> she will crush barack obama. barack, just sit it out. it's going to be ugly. i promise you. you heard it here first. >> you heard it here last! do you remember that? once you see all of that, it sure puts this summer's cable news commentary into some perspective, doesn't it? it's why i'm glad at least the internet and our wonderful producers have good memories. now that we've looked backwards, let's look forward. a lot of you think trump is getting so much attention but bernie sanders, the surging candidate on the left is being short-changed. let's go to jeff zeleny. he is at the iowa state fair. let's talk about the democratic race. it wasn't just sanders at the fair yesterday. it was also hillary clinton. are you hearing from i'm hearing from sanders' supporters who
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feel he's not getting fair press coverage when compared to someone like trump. >> reporter: i hear it all the time. i hear directly from voters at his rallies saying why aren't you giving him more attention? every time i tweet something about sanders i get the same thing. i can tell you the great montage you played is fascinating and a good reminder for us why reporters need to talk to voters. presidential campaigns are a process. they're not a sprint. i was out in the crowd of bernie sanders' supporters yesterday. they are believing that the mainstream media is not giving them enough of a shake. but i can tell you, i have been at his big rallies and been at his big speeches here in iowa yesterday he got the largest crowd of any candidate i have ever seen give a speech here at the state fair. it didn't get as much coverage as some of the other things, so i think they probably have a bit of a legitimate concern. >> do you think maybe that's because he is perceived by people who are not in iowa as a
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one-note candidate, someone saying the same message every day? trump, on the other hand. his press conferences now get live coverages on cable news partly because we have no idea what he's going to say next. >> reporter: true. and he has an excitement about him that's interesting. he is also a celebrity. that explains a lot of the news coverage about donald trump and it explains a lot of the excitement. you can see behind me at the iowa state fair, this street yesterday where i'm standing was mobbed yesterday when donald trump was walking down. we have no idea how many of these people are voters, iowa caucus voters, people who will vote for him at the end of the day but they of course wanted to see him. that's why he gets so much more media attention. rick santorum was out shaking hands one by one and no cameras were around him. i happened to walk past him on the sidewalk. we'll see which ends up being a better strategy at the end, a ton of attention or out-doing
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the retail politics that comes with this. we cover donald trump because he is entertaining in some respects and now he's leading the presidential campaign. >> thinking about al gore. al gore's name coming up this week in a buzzfeed article. joe biden speculation continues to ramp up. is this another example where the press is just trying to gin up possible challengers for the democratic field? or is it something real here. >> reporter: i think there is something real here because it's actually coming from a lot of democratic voters. i actually wasn't sure about this a few -- i arrived here on thursday in iowa. i wasn't sure actually when i came in to see how much voters would actually be talking about this, but i stood at the iowa democratic party booth here at the state fair, talked to democrats as they went by. it became clear that they are interested in the possibility of joe biden actually running.
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that part of it is real. the al gore report on buzzfeed this week was so quickly knocked down by al gore's spokes woman and all of his other advisors, it was clear that is not true. the biden story is a real possibility. to be fair, reporters like a contest and any whiff that he's interested becomes interesting. >> good to see you, jeff. >> reporter: thanks, brian. >> i'm very curious about it. coming up, one of the hardest tasks in journalism today. it's interviewing donald trump. we're going to talk about how to do it well. it's a conversation you'll hear nowhere else. and that's next. with my moderate to severe ulcerative colitis, the possibility of a flare was almost always on my mind. thinking about what to avoid, where to go...
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. welcome back. does donald trump defy everything journalists are taught about how to cover campaigns? we saw him arrive in iowa yesterday, putting on quite a show there. it seems to me, like a lot of softballs get tossed at trump. and sometimes the questions that are supposed to be hard balls end up helping him. let's analyze this with jay rosen. he acknowledges trump can be hard to pin down. doug hyde in washington. a formal communications director for the rnc. doug, let me start with you. what would you like to see the press doing more of? we see trump call in to lots of shows. today he sat down on camera for "meet the press." taped yesterday. aired today.
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what would you like to see more of? >> let me tell you what i'd like to see less of. i'd like to see less process questions, less questions about name-calling of a particular senator or a particular politician. i'd like to see less questions on somebody's cellphone numbers. none of those things help one republican voter make up their mind. i'd like to see more questions of like when dana bash asked tough questions at the border of donald trump. as we saw chuck todd do this morning on "meet the press," asking about ukrainian membership in nato. we saw he says i don't really care about that. who his military advisors are. he said i watch a lot of sunday tv shows. when we get away from process and name-calling and cellphones and focus on substance and policy, not only does the emperor not have any clothes, he doesn't have any answers either. >> jay i want to come to you on this. we've talked about this in the past week. it inspired this segment. you say it's a hard problem to
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conduct a good interview with trump because he defies the rules. how so? >> it's almost like trump is able to use the news division's corporate setting against them. >> how so? >> these are companies that have news as an important part of their portfolio but they're also media and entertainment companies. because trump is so good at the media part of television, the journalism part is almost working against the rest of the company. so his force as a ratings -- >> magnate. >> -- mag night, yenate is a hu these interviews. his preference for using questions for flow, by going on to the next thing and overlooking what you just said, is axskillful. he almost overwhelms the journalists like the news division is the poor cousin of the media company that trump is succeeding with.
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>> we've seen a lot of good interviews, don't you think? >> everybody is sort of trying to score the one that will reveal trump. but there is a different problem which is that he can take any really tough interview and blow it up and make a media circus out of that. >> do you agree with that? the idea that trump -- it's almost like when we were doing our function, we're checking these candidates, we're challenging them, and yet trump sometimes takes those challenges, runs with them, takes them as an advantage and uses them to build up his own stature. >> i agree with everything jay said. it's like wrestling a cloud. it's difficult to get a handle on. that's where we know so many tough reporters. jake tapper did a tough interview with him a couple weeks ago where he wouldn't let him get away with evading answers. i think it's incumbent on every reporter to pin him down, ask him specific questions. if he evades or avoids the
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question or starts name-calling or whatever, don't let him get up. keep him down and ask him specific question after specific question. that's where we see he has trouble answering the questions. he comes up with nonsensical answers if anything or tends to blame the referees, if you will by going after every single reporter, not just megyn kelly. we've seen it time and again. >> he has called chuck todd a loser before and went on camera this morning. did not go on fox this morning. one quote from maureen doud's column this morning. toward the end of the column she says i asked trump if he can at least admit that president obama was born in this country. no comment was his answer. to me, jay, that's a big scandal if he's continuing to not back away from the birther ideas. >> he has redefined gaffes
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because he makes so many of them. the individual gaffe is not really a gaffe. i think what you have to do in this situation, brian is you have to kind of almost get mad. you almost have to get offended. >> as the interviewer? >> yes. that trump has been able to skate and create this trump storm and trump show to overwhelm journalism. i think something like that happened to chuck todd this weekend. he seemed to be almost offended that trump had been able to get away with being a big candidate and not do retail politics, not really answer questions. helicopter into the state fair. and i think his emotion and i am going to make you answer these questions came through in the interview. >> maybe that's effective. even necessary. >> yes. >> jay rosen and doug hyde, thank you for being here. a problem that will continue to be addressed i think by the interviewers of donald trump. next, reporters covering the chemical explosion in china.
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welcome back. on wednesday when a chemical warehouse exploded in china, chinese social network users pointed their cameras at the fireball and uploaded terrifying videos like this one. all around the world we could see and we could hear the explosions right away. but what's been a lot harder to find is context, information. the official death toll is now 112. many people believe it's significantly higher. the now yorker wrote this about the outbreak of mistrust in china. as china grows increasingly wired crisis management has
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evolved into a science in which the government treats information itself like a virus on the verge of infecting the masses. for journalists trying to cover the aftermath there are dual challenges, one that involves the chemicals that apparently exploded. which is why you sometimes see reporters covering their faces while filing their reports. the second challenge involvs crensorship. cnn's will ripley was interrupted during this live shot on cnn in the hours after the blast. it happened actually just yesterday. will joins me now from china. >> i think the motivation is different depending on where we're reporting from. the initial hours we were at the hospital, and we believe that in the group not only were there potentially locals, possibly family members but also uniformed security officers and
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possibly plain clothed officers as well. nobody who formally identified themselves. i believe they felt it was inappropriate for us to be reporting from that hospital at that time and in fact videos that were taken by the security officers were leaked on china's social media showing their perspective of the encounter. because our perspective, the perspective of the video and the live shot that aired on cnn went viral in china and has been shared millions of times. it's still one of the top trending videos here. on saturday when we were disrupted during a live shot, that was actually, we believe, a plain-clothed police officer along with three other personnel, and they clearly didn't want us reporting from an area even though chinese media we saw was allowed there. the motivations are different depending on who is disrupting you. it's an experience that many journalists in china share, brian. >> i am struck by how in some cases you have freedom of movement. you got to the blast scene
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quarterbackingl quickly. some people think all media is censored but no. we've seen people commenting. what happens? on weebo, the social network like twitter in china is it rumors about the chemicals, complaints about the government response that tends to get crensored, shut down? >> reporter: that's right. certain topics that you may search for, the chinese government about erase they information relating to those topics. we noticed as we were monitoring social media that topics critical of the government, suggesting an official coverup about the true extent of the environmental contamination, those were quickly erased. the video of our confrontation outside the hospital, that was taken down. but what people are able to do now is that they keep sharing the video on weebo. if a video is taken down, it
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might pop back up. if a post is taken down, it might pop up again. seems like the great firewall of china does have a difficult time keeping up in the digital age. people here are very opinionated. as i learned. i have nerver seen a greater social media response than what happened after our incident here. the tide of opinion changed depending on what article was out. there were negative articles written about our confrontation and i got hate tweets. there were positive articles written and then i got positive information. it's a difference experience to be on the other end of the social media experience in china. it's very active despite the government's best efforts at times. >> tell me why you're not wearing a mask today. it worries me quite frankly. we don't know exactly what chemicals have been burning
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there. >> reporter: the government air quality testing shows that in this immediate area they say that the air quality is safe. yesterday, on saturday, i was wearing a mask when i reported. i feel that, if i feel --for my own personal safety i should wear a mask, i'll wear one whether on air or off. but i wouldn't wear a mask on camera in part because we don't want to be sensational and try to make it sound like things are more dangerous than they are. i will say this, brian. if there is rain in the forecast you will see us in much more heavy duty masks and protective gear because the real concern now is that chemicals from the blast site have dispersed all through the area. they can have a reaction to water. they don't know where it all is. they have 2,000 troops searching for it. we try to be transparent but we don't want to be alarmist in how we report. that's why sometimes there is a mask and sometimes there isn't. we always put our crew safety first in every situation.
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>> definitely the balancing act. seems like the kind of story we don't know how big the story is yet. we know there was a terrible blast. we don't know exactly how large the repercussions are. w wil, thank you for joining us. can today's politically polarized world in the u.s., the world of television be traced to one talk show in the 1980? s? we'll look at morton downy jr.'s talk show in a minute. polyp censor. if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. isn't it time to let the real you shine through? introducing otezla, apremilast. otezla is not an injection, or a cream.
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do you remember morton downy jr. he spewed populous rage. he he set the stage from rush limbaugh to the tea party and is
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the focus of a new documentary, the morton downey jr. show. i want to think about the impact this man had on media. we talked about downey's influence started to sweep across the country. the man who drove us into our national ditch and michael joins me here on the set now. tell me about this driving into the ditch. >> if you charged the lack of civility and go back in time as to when it began, this man would be a milestone. morton downey jr.'s program in the late 80s was a turning point in terms of what talk radio was and what television would become. >> you talked about not wanting to pander to the extremes on any side of politics. your radio program and your program here on cnn emphasized moderation and not the extremes that we sometimes hear on radio.
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do you think that there is a lesson in downey about what not to do? >> sadly i think this stuff works. take a look at the climate. if morton downey jr. were among us, we would have bought into birtherism and call sandra fluke a slut. he would say what glen beck said. barack obama is a racist with a hatred for white people. i think it's a continuum. these individuals with microphones have led too many of our elected officials. they control primary voters and so the lack of civility and the polarization in washington i say is directly attributable to this style of media performance. >> what is surprising is aren't more people like him today? >> i think they are hard. >> he is talking about throwing up in a congressman's face.
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>> it's true, but the level of discourse that surrounds us. look at the trump phenomena and what it plays to. i see shades of morton downey jr. where a member of congress shouted out to the president of the united states, you lie, to a joint session of congress. it was not like this predowney. he was the transformation of talk radio on a local basis. ideology didn't used to matter. what mattered was your ability to interact with telephone callers. this was the beginning of everybody reading from the same talking point. >> trump and downey were good friends at the time. there were images we can show. downey lived in the trump tower when it first opened. do you see influence in trump's presidential campaign? >> the trump appeal is likely to
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the 20 and 30 seconds who would show up and applaud morton downey when he would doll this television program. it's the same mentality and plays to the lowest common denominator. >> is there an antidote for the style we are hearing about or that we now see elsewhere on and radio? >> i think it's a recognition of people that they need to stop conplating where they get their news and entertainment. so much of what we see is entertainment that is masked as news. when individuals among us are reliant upon these types of sources, i think is really does take the nation in the wrong direction. >> maybe that's the take away from the film like this that that's entertainment we are seeing and if you confusion it as news, you are making a mistake. >> as the research documented this, so many of us are dependent on singular news sources. never have we had so much choice
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and few seem to be exercising it. if you are reliant and it's giving that type of presentation, you are taking in entertainment and you think it's news, but it's not. >> usually a side morning anchor, thank you for being here on sunday. the film will premier thursday night at 9:00 eastern. more on reliable sources. you had some blocks and you had major thoroughfares and corridors that were just totally pitch black. those things had to change. we wanted to restore our lighting system in the city. you can have the greatest dreams in the world, but unless you can finance those dreams, it doesn't happen. at the time that the bankruptcy filing was done, the public lighting authority had a hard time of finding a bank. citi did not run away from the table like some other bankers did. citi had the strength to help us go to the credit markets and raise the money.
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>> before we sign off, the fight may be over. "the washington post" reporter has been locked behind bars in
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iran for more than a year. they held the final hearing in a secret trial. they expected a verdict announcement possible low monday or tuesday and we hope to bring you idea news next week. he is one of 221 journalists imprisoned while doing their job in 2014. stay tuned. state of the union starts right now. >> arriving in style. donald trump drops boo the iowa state fair in his helicopter and leaves more insults in his wake. >> when a $55 million to jeb, he will do whatever they want. he's their puppet. >> can anyone slow trump down. i will ask mike huckabee. and john saysic. the come from behind candidate is surging. is he