neurosurgeon ben carson with 12%. and ted cruz with 10%. losing ground, jeb bush, coming in fourth with 9% support. a six-point drop from early august. now, trump is offering more red meat from conservatives, a hard lined immigration plan. saying on "meet the press," he supports deporting children brought in illegally. >> you are going to deport children? >> no, no, we are going keep the families together. we have to keep them together. >> but you are going to keep them together out. >> they have to go. >> the six-page proposal ends birthright citizenship. it puts stricter limits on legal immigration and pushes penalties on mexico if they refuse to fund a wall along the border. for most of the weekend, a spotlight wasn't on policy, but

retail politics at the iowa state fair. jeb bush looking to boost his poll numbers spent four hours there, sampling pork chops and practicing his fast pitch. meanwhile, his superpac is pitching in, spending $10 million on ads in the early states. as far trump, it was a claustrophobic chaotic spin through the fairgrounds. complete with a free ride for the kids on his $7 million chopper. that fox news poll gave us a snapshot of where the democratic field stands. hillary clinton still had a wide lead, 49% support in the latest poll. it is down a couple from early august. bernie sanders, 30%, an eight-point jump from early august. joe biden, hasn't announced, but he's at 10% in the polls. sources kell cnn they want joe biden to make a decision by

october 1st. we should be hearing something from him by the end of the summer. as for hillary clinton's spin through the iowa state fair, she made light of the e-mail controversy. she likes snap chat because the messages erase by themss. that didn't sit well with republican rivals. >> you have given us so much to talk about. we want to bring in nia maleeka henderson. let's start with you. trump laid out specifics about his immigration proposals. how do you think they will play? >> well, i think it will play in two ways. it burnishes his standing with the right of his party. the conservatives who boosted him to where he is to begin with. this is how he made his name initially about mexican illegal immigrants.

when is trump going to put meat on the bones and release plans. he has plans. he has immigration plans, he's going to release tax plans as well. he's done himself some good. he's been very strategic. at the epd of every week, there's something new with trump. last week, megyn kelly. this week, he has jury duty today. also, we are talking about his plan around immigration reform. he is moving forward and solidifying his lead as the republican front-runner, at least for now. >> i think this is a big change. let's be honest. we have been creating the momentum for trump up to now because of what he says. now he's trying to deal with a paradigm shift. i'm going to put out the ideas and have the rest of the field stick up. he says his guy is going to come on this morning, michael kohn

and he can prove he is better when it comes to hiring women than anyone else in the field. what does it mean? >> that is interesting. we heard trump saying i cherish women. he hasn't answered the question of what that means. how is he going to be great for women? i think if you can show when he was running trump organization, he hired women, he paid them the same and moved them up the ranks, that's a big deal. he doesn't have a voting record or a record of supporting legislation. we need to examine his record of running a company. if he wants to run the white house like you run a business, show us how you ran your company and give us an idea of running your government. >> things that raised eyebrows when he was on "meet the press" this weekend. he was asked where he goes to get his military advice. listen to this. >> who do you talk to for military advice right now?

>> i watch the shows. i see a lot of great, you know, when you watch your show and all the other shows and the generals and you have certain people -- >> is there somebody, is there a go-to for you? >> probably there are two or three. >> every candidate has a go-to. >> probably two or three. >> we have great military generals on cnn, they give a lot of insight, but is that good enough an answer? >> it's like everyone else. in some ways, that's who people watch our air. people watch to see who is on and they get their idea of what is the right course in terms of war and military stat gi from what is on tv. he sounds like somebody in the barbershop. he said he listens to specific people like josh bolton. we are lifting the veil on how these folks give their advice about a military strategy or health care strategy. it is, at some point, he'll have a panel of advisers.

he has one with an immigration plan. it's why people like him. he sounds like an average person talking about how he gets his information. >> use the media, but don't play to the media, right? he's not here to impress us. look at what he's doing now. let's play the sound about what he wants to do with removing entire families, even if they have the kid in the united states, questionable constitutionality to it. it will play. listen to it. >> we have to make a new set of standards. when people come in -- >> you are going to split up families? >> no, no, we are going to keep the families together. >> but you are going to keep them together out. >> they have to go. >> what if they have no place to go? >> we will work with them. they have to go. chuck, either we have a country or we don't have a country. >> what do you think, sara? yes, you have the birthright within the constitution, but putting it out as an idea, what is the plus and minus?

>> what is interesting is trump offers red meat for the conservative part of the country. he says thing that is are more moderate. he wants to deport the 11 million undocumented here, he wants to create a path to allow the good ones to come back. none of that is mentioned in the immigration plan he put out. this is a document designed to support more conservatives. that's what you saw in the interview as well. when you talk deporting the dreamers, there are not a lot of republicans in the field that feel the same way as that. you talk to marco rubio and jeb bush. we shouldn't punish them because they were here illegally. whether this is feasible, i venture to say no. there is no way they are going to overturn something that is enshrined in the constitution. it is a very heavy lift.

that gives you an idea, call it what it is, pandering to the conservative base. >> nia, one bit of sound we want to play is trump talks about making america great again. that certainly does resinate. he was asked, when was america great? here is his response. >> your slogan, we are going to hear it a lot at the fair. we are going to make america great again. when is the last time america was great? >> i would say during the administration of ronald reagan, you felt proud to be an american. you felt really proud. since then, i don't think to any great extent people are proud. >> is that okay to say we haven't been proud for a couple decades? >> this is his, you know, this has been his line along. no surprise he picks reagan as the president able to get that feeling of pride.

in that interview, back in 1987, trump wrote and editorial saying he wasn't feeling proud of being an american because of the relationship with china and japan. that was an interesting moment. he had to back away from some of the things he was saying. >> it's going to get interesting. he's going to get into a balance where he's frank, candid, says all these things, but you have to play the game and answer questions that may come into conflict with what he said before and then maintain that frankness and candor. not so interesting. >> good thing we have 400 plus days. >> only 400, plus. >> great to see you. >> thanks. it's not just about the immigration plan. we have a campaign exclusive. donald trump's adviser is going to be on the show. he says he can prove that donald trump is better on women's pay already than the rest of the

field. also in the 7 clng hour, we have new jersey governor chris christie, he's going to talk about his race for 2016 and what does he think will get him through this field? other news here, indonesian officials suspending the search for a passenger plane that crashed with 54 people aboard. bad weather is preventing crews from getting to the debris. cnn correspondent cathy novak is live with the latest there. kathy? >> yes, this was a short domestic flight 30 minutes in. it lost contact. villagers saw the plane crash into the mountains. planes spotted debris there. they are 99% sure they spotted the plane. ground crews have been hiking for an hour when the fog rolled in and they have to stop for now. two days in a row, bad weather

and darkness means they have to wait until tomorrow. they can only resume the search if the weather is good enough. devastating for the families of the people on board. they are told this is still a rescue mission, a slight hope there may be survivors. being warned, it is very unlikely. among the 50 people on board, 44 adults, five crew and five children. you haven'tly, this is all too familiar for indonesia. look over the past eight or nine months. december, 162 people died in a plane on the way to singapore went into the sea. in june, a military plane crashed killing 130 people, many of them civilians. this airline had only been operating since 1991. at that time, 19 accidents, not including this one. >> the safety record is horrendous. thank you for that background.

residents are protesting this morning, demanding compensation from their government. this, as the death toll from last week's explosion rises to 114. 70 people still missing this morning. will ripley is live with the latest developments. will? >> reporter: alisyn, people living in this destruction say they are not sure they want to go back to their homes. they are not sure it is safe after seeing the huge fire ball and chemicals raining down around them. there were protests today. families shouting, buy back our homes. they want the government to pay fir their apartments so they can fipd a safer place to live. >> the chemical stuff is all over. it was like a fire exploding everywhere. >> reporter: earlier today, i

visited the blast zone. as bad as this looks, some 700 meters or so away from the disaster area. thousands of cars, buildings ob liberated. the latest numbers now, the death toll 114. 70 people still missing and 698 people remain in the hospital as china promises a criminal investigation into this to figure out what went wrong that allowed so many chemicals to be stored at a facility so close to people's homes. chris? >> the white house is demanding china pull culvert agents operating in the u.s. beijing placed agents in america to hunt down fugitives and return them to chin. the u.s. says they don't have permission to carry out such an operation known as fox hunt. >> north korea's threats are

nothing new, but the language is more intention this time. the state department officials say the exercises are transparent and geared toward defense, not offense. back here at home, wildfires burning out of control across the u.s. 12 states impacted. eight western states under siege by dozens of wildfires. soaring temperatures are not helping. a woman's death blamed on the evacuation rush in idaho as the arrest is made over a southern california fire. cnn meteorologist chad myers is following all of this for us. what are you seeing, chad? >> i don't think you can put it into perspective unless i give you a number. 10,000 square miles burned this year. it's bigger than the entire state of new jersey. out of control flames spreading,

burning over 1 million acres across eight states. a growing wildfire crisis fueled by winds, lightning and soaring temperatures. >> we are not out of the woods yet. >> over 100 wildfires are burning uncontained. >> just awful. this is the worst in all my life. >> reporter: the nation's highest alert level. >> very upsetting. you don't want to see anybody lose their homes. >> resources are stretched thin. thousands of firefighters are working overtime. >> every resource you can think of is on short demand in this country right now. >> reporter: over 1,000 residents warned to flee. >> there's no preparing for this. >> this ridge was on fire thachlt whole hillside there. i was literally outrunning

flames at 60 miles an hour. homes from california to washington left smoldering, reduced to ashes. >> pretty scary. i had never seen a fire storm travel like this, this fast. inform washington, homes on fire as they burned down utility poles. >> everything that is being done is degree done out there. our first prou orty is protekding people and homes. >> reporter: the drought out west has to do with this. areas are dry. beetles are eating pine trees and they are dead now. this has a lot to do with it. so does this. think about it, it was 117 degrees in phoenix on friday. that's not a heat index. that's a hot up dex. sure it's a dry heat. even today, needles will get to 118. think about fighting a fire in this heat gives you perspective.

>> great perspective, thank you. >> you have to honor the movement there. donald trump says undocumented immigrants have to go. the dreamer kids, too. families won't be split up, they will be taken together and tossed out. a path to return, not in there. here is the question. trump is walking the walk. will this move solidify his position of the front-runner or get the rest of the field a chance to compete? we answer it ahead. the the lincoln summerre. invitation is on.

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the executive order gets rescinded. >> you will rescind that one, too. you will rescind the dream act? >> we have to make a new set of

standards. >> donald trump vowing to rescind executive orders on immigration issued by president obama. that's not unusual. what is unusual is he saying so-called dreamers have to go. he has a plan on immigration. here to break it down for us is latin american political analyst and host, anna-maria salazar. great to have you. let's go through them point by point. mexico must pay for the wall. their government is taking advantage of the u.s., sending all the people they don't want to deal with. they have to pay. if they don't, they are going to raise what it costs a ceo to be here. can it happen? how does it play? >> it's not going to happen. it's fascinating to see why this is such an important issue in this campaign. i don't know, maybe it has to do

with bullying another country, showing how powerful the united states is. i's not going to happen. even if the united states decided to cut all aid to mexico, which is only $280 million, to build a border they are talking about, the fence could cost, and this is, you know, lowballing it, $4 billion. if that's the way the united states is going to spend its hundred in prying to stop immigration, it is going to be costly. >> but, his point is mexico is doing the wrong thing to us. they are going to pay for it. whether or not it is feasible is the next sish shoe. tripping the numb bore of ice sis, that is not controversial here, but costly. do you take that point differently in. >> no, at this stage, probably, it's bert to have more ice

agents at the border. >> nationwide e-verify is making the measure work better. it's an efficiency point. >> it's huge. >> why is it controversial. >> that is huge. not in mexico, but the united states. that's the most interesting proposal. you are placing on those hiring people the responsibility of making sure they are hiring people that are legally in the united states. this kind of moves it responsibility toward businessmen like donald trump to make sure the people they hire are legal. the consequences of not verifying or making sure people are legal should have either legal, some kind of legal consequences, if not criminal. i think this is the most interesting proposal. >> right. >> this is community in the united states is not going to like this. >> there's no teeth to it in the

proposal. this already exists, as you know. the point would be, and we have had the discult there saying you guys are perpetuating the problem. cut the supply and you cut the demand. let's reverse it. in terms of his points, that's not going to raise a lot of eyebrows here. you may be right, we will see. here is where it will get dicey. return all the illegals, no watch and release. if they get caught, they are dealt with right away. defund the sanctuary cities. if they bring in kids when they come, the kids go back, too. that goes for the dreamers. it is, you know, when i listen to the proposals, i have good news for you. between this proposal and the

next one, probably, which is going to be deporting all undocumented persons living in the united states, which is also crazy and we can talk about that. this basically is going to ensure that he's going to have no one, no hispanic vote in his favor. they can try to do that. they can try to massively deport, which they are already doing, by the way. there's more deportations taking place by the obama administration. i think going after people who bring in children that lived in the united states most of their life. this is going to be a proposal that is goupg to have on impact. without the hispanic vote, donald trump is not going to be president of the united states. >> you know, the other side says you democrats cook the book.

there aren't more deportations. are you overstating the desire to help immigrants in america today? i mean, politically, you have almost nobody coming forward. even hillary clinton coming forward saying boldly, i'm all about having people in this country, any way we can get them in here, even if they came in the wrong way. it's not the rhetoric. why would it be so bad? >> he talks a lot about ronald reagan. at the time, he did what was unthinkable. he legalized the presence and there was a lot of questions as to whether it was the right thing. ultimately, when you have 11 million people without documents, living in the united states, you don't have many options. you can debate what is best for the u.s. economy.

there are a lot of people that believe it is best for the u.s. economy than spending, i don't know, $280 billion trying to deport them back, not only to mexico, central america, china. maybe other parts of the world, roogt now, the undocumented workers entering spoo the united states are 50% mexican. this is not only a mexican problem, this is a problem with a large population coming from other parts of the world. yes, it may be unpopular. ultimately, it is more realistic to put on the table the proposal bush has and other candidates have, which is strengthen the border, but find a way to legalize those already in the united states. >> you told me what you think are good points, i will tell you what i think is good.

he's shoplifted from talking the talk and waubing the walk. now, we get to know the one liners. this is a conversation in what we do, not just what we say. thank you very much. appreciate it, the perspective, also always. what do you think? tweet us. #newdaycnn. go to facebook, face book.com/newday. >> thanks so much. more news here. north korea pledging to strike the u.s. over military exercises. should these threats be taken seriously? we'll take a look. omer and ben ♪ is man kind? are we good? go see. go look through their windows so you can understand their views. go find out just how kind

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we are going to get the wall built and it's going to be built right. mexico is going to pay for the wall. mexico is making a fortune of the united states. mexico is going to pay for the wall and they are going to be happy about it. >> you are going to pay for it and you are going to be happy about it. donald trump, man of action. he has plans, proof and a challenge on women. john is here to vet and kevin is with him, cnn political commentator and strategist. i start with you, john avalon as you look at the six-point plan. it does reinforce several things he said. a couple new things, too, that will be unusually hard lines. >> first of all, there's detail behind the rhetoric. it's not the deepest plan, but

offers specifics, including having mexico pay for it. how is part of a policy plan. the implementation is part of policy. going after the family of dreamers, suspending dream cards. they they play well with the base. look, moving from pure bluster to some degree of policy, at least now we have something we can debate. >> kevin, what do you think, does it go far enough? >> look, i don't think the -- i don't think it's an actual plan. i agree with john. it's more about talking points. that is the goal of the trump campaign. he wants to drive the conversation. he is driving it on his terms in a way that complicated the

campaigns of the other candidates. mission accomplished in that regard. >> is it complicated or make them have a campaign? the plus on this for them is they can show their ideas or better. >> that should be the opportunity. so far, we haven't seen that or gone at trump one-on-one. there's a chance for one candidate to offer a more detailed plan, one that is feasible. right now, trump has that 25%, but there's a whole 75% out there for the taking. it will be interesting to see whether or not one of these campaigns steps up and does that. >> here is the moment on what he's going to do with families and why. let's play it. >> ef we have to make a new set of standards. >> you are going split up

families? >> no, no, we have to keep the families together. but they have to go. >> either we have a country or we don't have a country. >> we are just going to deport the whole family together. it's important that families stay together. >> yeah. >> that's a great moment, it sounds compassionate. this is all still, this is a step away from the car salesman. we can kick the tires. sheriffs a great piece in the washington post that said it is only wonky eggheads like you that need policy specifics. american voters just want to hear he's going to make america great again and spare us the

details. it's the feeling not the details. >> the extent that trump is this reflection of our culture, you have populism coming together in a difficult mass for people like kevin madden who want to believe in the rationality. sure, this is the ultimate appeal. tell me you are going to make america great. tell me if it is tough. that can appeal to a lot of folks. the transition to governing and reality that he is the front-runner, that should scare people. >> at the ballot box. >> policy does matter, it does. people care about governing. our 50 million campaign -- is it tough? is it trust worry?

it's more brawn and bluster. a lot of people supporting trump, they like it. >> eat's play a sound again. >> i would have told him up front, no way. we will never give you back your money. we will never give you back your $150 million. that's number one. two, before you start koshuations, you need to give us back our $3. without question, you have to give them back. it will help us make a better deal together, that's good for you. >> you know those rimers were a big deal. does that sound good? >> yeah, that answer is a perfect summery of trump. a lot of big talk. it hits a nerve with a lot of

voters emotionally. but, can he deliver on it? he says it in such a convincing way the voters do believe he can. but, you know, he's shaping the debate right now. >> look, i say this. one of the thing that is happen in presidential contests is candidates that do well often are the balance, the opposite of the perceptions of the president. obama was the antigeorge w. bush. the bluster, the bull talk, i'm going to take charge is so countered to the more nuance. not like i'm going to lay down the law. >> look, there's no question we give them more attention than the others and he demands it. now that he's the front-runner, he warrants it. he says they have to step up and have better ideas now. he's put down the gauntlet.

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a new threat from north korea to the united states. they are warning not to conduct military exercises or they will strike the u.s. here at home. is there reason to worry or is it bluster from the unbalanced regime? bobbi is here to breakthrough the noise we are hearing. let me paraphrase the message delivered by the north korean newscaster saying we are not the same military force as before. we have become stronger. we are able to fight against the united states.

if they want their mainland to be safe, stop immediately. we have heard these threats before. this seemed hostile. is there reason for concern. >> every year there's a trigger. they are designed to send a signal to north korea. that immediately sets this off with north korea. i suppose every year you have to, if you are not familiar, you have to ratchet it up verbally. this is the first time they are so openly use the nuclear threat. it's kind of different and i don't think we should take it seriously, but don't ignore it.

they have some of the technology, they have rockets. most of the rockets have gone badly. >> right. >> you don't think that any rational country would try a stunt like that. but, we have new information recently that they are digging up more uranium. we have satellite imageries of the -- they are building up their nuclear arsenal. that's something you should always be concerned with. a country that is so poz tile to everybody. >> we will add to that, there's discussion and rumor, he is losing his power. he's executed more top officials recently. is there anything in that? maybe this is a sign of force if he is losing power.

>> he is, the fact he is so deep into his presidency, he has to purge officials means there's not trust around him. it is trying to show how tough of a time there is. >> let's turn to china, we have seen this report. china is using secret agents, within our borders, trying to rule out disdent and coerce them from moving back to china. they are saying enough. not okay. what do you make of this? we know the spy game is alive and well. this is a particularly different, outside the normal standard routine. >> it is outside the normal routine. we have spies in china and china has spies in the u.s. what's going on here, this is part of a larger campaign.

the president, is going up -- or he would like his people to think corruption is a big issue. the messages, a lot of criminals fled the country and are living off the land. this is our way of getting it. they are sending chinese police and other security agents over. the u.s. and china do not have an extradition policy. that's important. it's not like china can tell the u.s., here is a list of crimina criminals, get them back. >> right. >> this is their way of trying to put pressure on them. they are making a lot of propaganda out of it. >> the president's visit to the u.s. is clearly going to make this relationship tense. >> this is the u.s. just in a

diplomatic one. the u.s. is serious about trying to kick the chinese agents out, grab a few of them, put them on the plane and send them back. we are telling the chinese, don't do this. >> shaking the finger at them. sthak is it. >> bobby ghosh, thank you very much. a lot of news to get to on this monday. let's get to it. in four years, you are going to say what a great job you have done president trump. >> the can do attitude. >> conservatism is giving everybody a collapse. >> i did not send nor did i receive material marked classified. >> vice president, joe biden, determining if he should make a run for the white house. >> villagers saw the plane crash into the mountains. they spotted debris, but cannot get to it. >> the death toll up to 114.

80 people missing. china is promising a criminal investigation. this is new day, with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. >> donald trump rolls out his immigration proposal. he wants to reverse president obama's executive orders on immigration. >> gop pollers are responding to outsiders, including trump at the expense of other candidates in the race. who is up? who is down? sara murray is live with all the developments. make us smarter. >> good morning, chris. after the first gop debate, the antiaccomplishment moment is brewing. we are seeing a big shake. let's take a look. donald trump keeps soaring, landing at the top of a new news

poll. support from one in four republican primary voters. trump isn't the only one climbing. rounding the top tier, neurosurgeon ben carson. losing ground, jeb bush coming in fourth with 9% support. a six-point drob from early august. trump is offering more red meat for conservatives. he said he supports deporting children, a step furser. >> you are going to deport families. >> we have to keep the families together. they have to go. >> trump's six-page proposal calls for an end of birthright citizenship.

it's enphone lined in the constitution. it puts stricter limits on lel imfrags if they revuz to fund a law. for most of the weekend, it wasn't on policy, but politics at the iowa state fair. jeb bush looking to boost his sagging poll numbers spent four hours there sampling pork chops and practicing fast pitch. meanwhile, his superpac is pitching in, spending $10 million in ads in the early states. as for trump, a claustrophobic spin through t complete with a free ride for the kids on his $7 million chopper. there are views trumps immigration plan are already coming in. immigration advocates are panning it. as for the group that is want to limit immigration legal and

illegal, they say trump is doing better on this issue. trump is in new york doing jr.ry duty. >> thanks so much. there is rising speculation about snow biden jumping in. they have given him an october 1st deadline to decide. we could find out sooner. jim is follow thag story, live on martha's vineyard where the vice president and president are vacationing. hi, jim. >> reporter: hi, alisyn. president obama isn't enjoying his vacation. vice president, joe biden was off and spending some of that time last week determining if he should make a run for the white house. advisers say he is nowhere near making a decision. widen spent his vacation in

south carolina, an early primary state. i always thought that was there. the vice president has to decide if he wants to take on hillary clinton. if you look at the polls, a new one came out. biden would have to play major catch up. sanders was gaining on hillary clinton in the polls. >> i have known joe for many, many years. everybody who knows joe likes him and respects him. the decision as to whether or not he runs is his. if he does run, i promise him an issue oriented campaign. >> now, as for hillary clinton, she and her husband, former president, bill clinton were here on martha's vinnyard over the weekend. the secretary of state chatted briefly with president obama on

saturday night after mr. obama and clinton hit the golf course together. i'm told hillary clinton is seen by top democratic strategists inside and outside the white house as someone who will protect and expand on president obama's legacy. but, lately, white house officials have been talking up the vice president saying tapping biden as his vp was the best decision he ever made. if they have to choose between hillary clinton and joe biden, it will be the toughest call he makes during his presidency. >> it will be interesting. appreciate the reporting this time. we have a campaign exclusive for you. the executive vice president, mr. michael kohn is here. always a pleasure. how powerful is trump if he can't get out of jury duty? >> it's unfortunate. that whole scenario is just

whacky. they claim they sent it to him on several occasions. >> he's a jury skipper. >> you have to serve tout the right property. they sent it to a property on central park south. he owns the building, but he didn't require that. >> donald trump was on the show saying what is this, i don't like women, i chair rick women. here is what happened on the back and forth. >> do you pay the women at the top of your organization the same as your men? >> absolutely. like, in my cases, i pay the women more. i get women that get paid a lot of money. >> you should show those numbers to people and let them see women

don't only make the same, they make more. se hi says i to do that. you say, i want to come on. i have a challenge. >> i was watching on the show. they call trump everything. they don't call him genius and he happens to be a great guy. up stead they called him some words. i watched the program. i decided i was going to take a look for myself. i really didn't know the answer to it. i went and started looking and started pulling out various parts of the company. in most respects, there are thr men that work for the company. i believe the ballpark is 57-43. however, there are more female executives at the trump organization than mail. >> women in similar positions

are actually paid more. more. >> you are saying 57. there are more men, but more women in position that is are executives and they may more than others. i take sichbt sectors for the xen, in seen your -- in the area of the legal department where the assistant general council makes $25,000 more than her male counter parts. >> you said you were surprised by the numbers. we were discussing this. you said mr. trump was not surprised by this. he knows who he hired. he doesn't care if it's men or women. in the '80s, he had a woman.

it is striky because you are not a private organization. >> i would welcome you in and you could takd a look. >> the thing about his leadership is proof of performance, unlike the others like hillary and the iowa fair. she said she is the only one that can understand women's rights. donald trump has been living it. he's not a gender based payer. he's a performance based payer. meaning, if you do the job, he doesn't care if your name is mary or joe, he wants it job done and done right. that's about leadership. he knew, look, the reason we were going back and forth is he is painting and massaging, whole numbers 24 women to 21. she said it wauz lot of women. i didn't get into the reporting on that. >> he's equally harsh to males as well.

he's gender neutral when it comes to punching back. >> you know how it is. when you are a leader, you have to think about your words and what you say and how you say it. what you are doing is flipping the dynamic. you are saying, it's not just what you say, it's what you do. you are saying you are coming out with the numbers to issue a challenge to the field. >> i would like to see the other candidates, gop, democrats and hillary. i would be curious to see how many males sper vus females. >> not true. you campaign. i'm curious how many males versus female. how many of the gop have male to fe mail. they are all talk. trump is a doer. he doesn't do it because the pollsters tell him to do it. it's inherent. it's right and he doesn't care, again, if your name is fairy or

know. he wants performance. he's a performance based person. >> you are a private company, you don't want people's names out there, what they made. they are real jobs, hotel gms. i can give you the specifics the male make 20s,000 more than the female. he's been there seven years longer. even in the golf department, we have two women who are the gms of major golf courses. they make, in one case, the same exact as the male and in the other case, they make more. >> basis of criticism. >> there's nut thag goes on at the trump organization that he's not aware of. >> you are coming out with this today. the timing is never a coincidence. the same time the immigration plan is coming out. what is this shift in strategy

from not just saying it, but putting out proof of performance. >> sure. he's the front-runner. he's been front-runner for two months. this is the time he is going to put out the policies he said he was going to put out. again, he's not a politician. he's a billionaire businessman, celebrity who is interested in making america great again. he's the guy that everybody now is talking about as the doer. he said he was going to put out his plan. he's putting it out. can he put it out all in one shot? why would he do that. he is going to put them out as they become prepared. >> it does seem this is a harder line he is taking on this issue than in the past. is he starting to play politics in terms of giving the people what they want and the far right saying i'm going to throw out the whole family, we are going

to force him. is that a trap for him? >> i don't think so? >> he said in the past, we have to figure out how people who should be here can be here. finding a path to citizenship. itis not in it. >> he does say that. he says they are going to leave. he wants to figure out how to make the policy easier for them to come back. they have to be good for america. what this will do is help to clean out all the problems that we have with the illegal immigration. >> but, is he just playing strong or our his ideas not as severe as they come across here? >> donald trump doesn't play. he doesn't play. >> what does that mean? >> he's not playing politics. this is what he believes. if he believes it, he is putting it out there as he said he would. >> you are saying, donald trump, with the politics, what is it?

>> meaning what? >> you don't cover him the way you are covering everyone else. >> it's true. you should ask the other candidates the number of females to males that are -- >> do you think we chase trump more than anybody else? k si do. because he is the front-runner, for eight months and he gets a lot of energy given to him from the media. the other candidates are angry for us giving him so much attention. >> he's the front-runner because he is the smartest. that's what everybody is hungry for. they want to see america great like it used to be. >> do you think people are going to sour? >> i don't think so. that's the sentiment of a lot of people in the country. that's why you see the poll numbers the way they are. people are angry. we are not doing well as a country. we are involved in wars.

we are spending money proseconding people where we get nothing out of it. these are all the things trump has been talking about for years. he talked about going back to 2008 where he predicted iraq was going to be a disaster. >> so, you will give me the numbers. you can look through them. if you want to see the back up, sign a nondisclosure agreement so we don't put out anybody's information. we'll ask the other candidates, see how they do and move the debate forward based on ideas and performance. >> absolutely. >> thank you. we respect you answering the question we asked him. >> trump has nothing to hide. >> stay with us later this hour. we have heard from donald trump's campaign, what the challenge is. we have new jersey governor and presidential hopefully, chris christie. can he answer the challenge and how does he stay in the field? it's coming up around 7:40. in indonesia, the searched

is sus suspended for a crash found. crews on the ground are waiting for fog to lift. cnn correspondent kathy is there with the latest. >> reporter: this was a short, local flight about 15 to 20 minutes before it was scheduled to land, it lost contact. villagers say they saw it crash into the mountain. now, authorities released pictures they say they believe is from the debris from this missing plane. they say they are all but positive, 95% sure this debris is from the plane that is said to have crashed into the mountain. the problem is, they cannot get to it. for two days in a row, the search has been called off until morning. it is dark until this part of the world. you have ground crews stuck on the mountain. they had been hiking to the

area. they cannot get any further. this is devastating for the families of 54 passengers who were on board. they are told to hold out hope that there may have been some survivors. the reality is they should expect the worst. this would be very, very difficult to survive. 54 on board. 44 adults, five crew and five children. now, once again, the question is asked, is it safe to fly in indonesia? if you look back at the past few months, back in december, an airasia plane went down into the sea and took 162 passengers with it. more recently, in june, a military plane went down carrying a lot of civilians. 130 people died. now we have this incident. this airline had been operating since 1991 and had 19 accidents since then, not including this one, alisyn. >> this airline has a troubled safety record. thanks for all that background. here at home, eight western

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taking place. >> let's play a lightning round. i want to hear how the tea party feels about the candidates. donald trump? >> he's saying the thing that is need to be said. he provides the litmus test or beta testing. he's blazing for what works and doesn't work. >> ben carson. he's not a career politician, he's a doctor. >> antiestablishment, definitely different than the rest of the field. soft spoken. people are inspired by him. he has an incredible story. >> carly fiorina? >> the dark horse. she ran a terrible senate race against barbara boxer. today, she looks like the candidate most nimble on her feet. >> ted cruz is an interesting case study. he fancies himself antiestablishment. maybe you agree and he is a politician. >> he rose in texas politics as a candidate running against an establishment candidate for the senate seat.

he's a proven antiestablishment candidate with great support. >> who have i forgotten? who do you have your eye on as a tea partier? >> you hit the top candidates. scott walker fought the unions in wisconsin. people like him for that. he's come across as mellow, soft and people are looking for somebody with more fire in the belly than scott walker today. >> of the first four, who do you like best? >> you know, i don't have a personal preference. i like all of them. they are all challenging the status quo. again, i see the same thing on the left. i'm inspired to see sanders challenge hillary clinton. i think the american public is getting what they are looking for. your polling shows a vast majority of americans fed up with the status quo. i think we are seeing populous election here in america. >> you are reserving judgment. you don't have a personal favorite. who do you think speaks best to the tea party ideals? >> i think the top three

candidates, make four candidates are the ones i think are currently speaking the right language. you have donald trump, ted cruz, fiorina and carson speaking to the heart and soul. not just the tea party, but the vast americans. >> the latest poll from fox news over the weekend, trump has, again, a commanding lead. he is more than two times his closest follower, carson. how do you explain that? >> he's the guy saying things first. he is willing to take a stand when others aren't willing to take a stand. today he's not interested in political correctness. i think the american people are ready for honesty from folks and willing to speak their minds. whether he can hold the position for long. bush was the front-runner, he's down at 9%. there's a lot of territory between here and the election. we have to wait and see. >> you talk about jeb bush. have you rejected jeb bush? is that not in your sight at all

because he is so establishment? >> well, you know, it's interesting because as i travel the country, i have been in 20 states since the beginning of the year. i have yet to meet a person that says they support bush. not one, i met thousands and thousands of people. it's stunning to me. i think he prep sents the establishment. as i travel across the country and talk to people on the left and right, the idea of the clinton/bush race is something they are not ready for. they don't want to hear those names. >> you brought up sanders in the same breath as antiestablishment, but he is the antitea party. he's a self-declared socialist. isn't that as far on the other end of the spectrum from the tea party as you can get? >> i think he is. at the same time, he's raising the same issues. he's a populous and talking to the american people. he's talking to the base of his party that feels unrepresented by the party like hillary clinton. i think he's tapping into the

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a new poll over the weekend shows donald trump leading the pack of presidential hopefuls. the closest competitor is 13 points behind carson. they are leaving some former favorites trying to make up the grounds. the next guest is trying to break out, it's governor chris christie. welcome. >> great to be back. >> good to have you on "new day." let's talk about what happened

recently where trump put out his immigration plan. we want to get your response on how yours differs. let's put up a couple bullet points. he's going to make mexico pay for the border wall. he's going to defund sanctuary cities and end illegal birthrigh birthrights. >> we talked about securing the border. walling and fencing certain places, not the entire border. >> how are you going to pay for that? >> the united states will pay for it. this makes no sense. i have met the president. if we present him with a bill, he is not going to pay for it. this is international diplomacy. it is different. urban areas where it's more difficult to control. second, we need to have atf

agents embedded to deal with the criminal element. they are able to deal with drug running. they are typical border agents. we need to use drones and electronic surveillance to show where we need them more effectively. fourth, easily verify. the folks are coming to work. they are not coming to vote. they are coming to work. if they know they can't get jobs, they are not going to come. so, that's the most important element of all four. all four are important. that's the most important element. >> you deal with it in new jersey. you have people coming in for the right and wrong reasons. e-verify. nobody has owned the position of i'm going after the employers. if you don't employ them the wrong way, they are not here the wrong way. it's a third line for people. you think about owning that issue and making it the mainstay of a platform. >> i am owning it. it's the most important thing. i know they won't like it.

make the profit legally. i want businesses to make as much profit as possible. if they do, they are going to create more jobs. you can't do it by exploiting cheaper labor, especially when it threatens the national security. i absolutely own it. i said this last week in georgia. the chamber of commerce crowd needs to get on board. they need to be part of the solution. you cannot only win people on the southern part of the border. we have people employing folks illegally. the reason is to make a bigger profit. i would make the fine so large that any profit is not only wiped out, but then some. people are going to continue to keep coming. if they believe they are going to be employed, they are going to continue to come and find ways to come and it will be more difficult to stop it. >> let's talk about another wrinkle of cheaper labor. i'm talking the gender gap, of paying women less.

do you pay women less than men? >> you bet i do. my chief of staff is o woman. they get paid no differently than the men on my staff. what i care about is talent. what i care about is talent and commitment. they are the kind of people i have on my staff. that's not only now. >> we put it to trump because of what happened with the comments and the ugly comments. he said i take care of women the way it matters, which is what i pay them. i said show me the proof. his guy came on with the proof. he hires them, puts them in position of power, now chase everybody else the way you chased me. >> do you think it's true he puts women in positions of power and pay them like men? >> they should. if you are the leader of a large organization like i am in new

jersey, what you care about most is putting the best people in the best position. nowhere in that sentence do you hear about gender. to me, it doesn't matter. the fact is, i have said to the women on my staff over the course of time, part of it is their obligation, too. i believe a lot in what sandberg talks about in terms of women in the professional mode leaning in and making themselves bigger parts of the organization. that helps to solve the problem, too. in the end, it's my job to set the tone we have in new jersey. >> why i'm looking at the most recent, i believe staff list, you are right the chief of staff is a woman, but i believe you have three times as many men in your cabinet as you do women. >> a number of my women have left. >> why is that? >> because they got better paying jobs in the private sector, god bless them. remember, this is also a

six-year-old administration. a lot of folks have been with you a long time. they wind up wanting to go to the next step of their career. they go to the private sector to make more money. here is what i feel like as the leader of an organization whetheritis a man or woman working for me. when they serve for a period of time, i help them advance their career in whatever way is best. if they want to go to the private sector, that's fine, too. some of them women are on my presidential campaign as well. my communications director is no longer there. she is now running my presidential campaign. >> you feel good about the pay equity? >> the person running my campaign is a woman. i don't think you can get a better job than that. >> it's interesting what he did. he was painted as a massage nist. he's saying judge what i do. it will be interesting. this is the reality for a lot of governments, you have a 3-1

ratio and we need to do better. we accept that. >> of course. you have to vote by it. i would reject the premise. you can't just say, well, this is what i do, so it does not matter what i say. words matter, too. when you are a leader, what you say from the pulpit, if you are a governor, a business leader, a member of congress, and especially when you are president of the united states, you can't excuse awful comments as part of -- well, i do things differently. when you are a leader, what you say matters. what comes out of your mouth matters. i'm glad he's put thag forward. good for him. good for the women working for him and being treated fairly. the fact is, all of it matters when running for president. >> let's look at the democratic side of the race. the new poll shows bernie sanders is gaining. he's at 49%, he's 30%. do you think that is directly tied to the e-mail issue with hillary clinton or is there something else going on with her

campaign? >> i think it's two things. mrs. clinton doesn't answer any questions. she doesn't answer questions. the most recent stuff she was saying yesterday, trying to say everything raised about her is politics. itis not. if she could answer questions directly, why did you have a private server? they made it clear from minute one, all official business is done on government e-mail. >> she says all her predecessors used private servers. >> she did everything on that account and then what most people are concerned about it, she gets the server cleaned. why not answer that question instead of talking all the time about oh, the politics and the republicans. itis not about politics. >> what do you think the answer is in. >> she didn't want people to see what was on the e-mail server. >> why? >> that's a good question.

why did you wipe it clean, mrs. clinton? why? seriously. can you imagine if after the breach investigation began, by the way, i have done all my business on a private server and i have deleted 30,000 of them, but trust me, none of them had to do with the bridge. give me a break. she wants to talk about being held to a different standard? she wants to be transparent. that's the first problem. secondly, she's not speaking to the concerns it american people have because she won't speak to her national security record and a failed national security record. they are making people feel anxious in this country. if she starts to answer questions, interact with people, the poll numbers would be different. poll numbers don't matter any way. >> there's so much intensity going on. i hear ya. we have 400 days left.

the intensity of the coverage is we are getting more true measure than we usually do. when it comes to the e-mail thing, is this fair pushback on it? yeah, she was using private e-mail. you are using the bridgegate scandal. here is a dove tailing of this and if it were so bad, why did t never come up until she decided to run for president? >> first of all, again, exclusively, chris. in today's world, everybody has their own private e-mail. if they use that for personal issues, family issues, those type of things. she was exclusively using it. she didn't use her government e-mail account. she wanted all communication within her control while she was the highest ranking cabinet member? why didn't it come up before? no one knew. the people that did know were part of the team. they were part of the team, chris. god forbid we question secretary clinton. now she's running for president,

she's going to be questioned. you know what? i did this for seven years, there is ample evidence here to criminally investigate her conduct. we haven't talked about the fact that the e-mails may have contained classified information, which is clearly against the law. remember this, david petraeus was prosecuted and convicted for this in her husband's administration. you have folk that is were prosecuted and convicted for this. why is she different? >> we have more questions for you, governor. more issues with governor chris christie, that's next. stick around. have to remember passwords. or obsess about security. she'll log in with her smile. he'll have his very own personal assistant. and this guy won't just surf the web. he'll touch it. scribble on it. and share it. because these kids will grow up with windows 10. get started today.

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welcome back to "new day." let's bring in 2016 presidential candidate governor chris christie. thanks for sticking around. >> thank you for having me. >> let's talk about the latest polls. this one was released over the weekend. you can see the top contenders. i'll put it up for you right now. >> read the numbers. >> the point is, you are not in

the top contenders, you are somewhere down at 11. i think you have 3%. >> yes. >> so, how are you going to change that? >> campaigning. that's why come pains matter. the question is ask in the polls, if this election were held tomorrow, who would you vote for? people will be shocked because they are not going to be held tomorrow. if campaigns didn't matter, we would sit home. >> you are going to pound the pavement and meet people? >> we have some money to advertise. we are going to move closer to when people decide. there was a recent poll in new hampshire that said 85% of the people have not yet decided. well, then, the poll is about 15% of the people. i mean, you know, it's time to take a deep breath. we have a lot of work to do. what that poll tells you more than anything else is the race is unsettled. the american people and primary voters are not near making a decision.

it's my job to go out there and convince them i am the best person. that's what every candidate's job is. go out and do the best you can. because of the specificity of the message, the details of the plan and the passion we bring to leadership that we are going to wind up being the winner here. >> you raised the money? >> sure. we have done well raising the money and we are going to continue to do well at it. >> i have supporters that believe washington is broken and a problem and we need a governor to come in that is strong and direct, tell the truth and fix it. those kind of people, a few committed people can help you change the world. >> trump is sucking a lot of energy out. there's no question. it was interesting to me in the last segment hearing you say, what you say as a leader matters as much as what you do. it's been criticism on you. what do you think he's done in terms of the dynamic. what did you learn watching him

about what you don't want to be and what you do want to be as someone out in front. >> what i have learned is the american people are angry at washington, d.c. the depth of their anger is being funneled through donald's candidacy. that's what i have learned the most is that what i felt as i traveled around the country last year, this overwhelming anxiety of people. we don't want anything to do with washington, d.c., we want it changed. the challenge to me, who do you want to change it with? you know, somebody who is blunt and direct? absolutely. someone that knows how to operate a government or someone that does not? that is the challenge moving forward. what i have learned is that anger that i detected is manifested itself in the numbers you see with donald and a lot of folks as well. >> times you were fund raising over the weekend, you raised $11

million? >> $11 million was raised by our superpac. we'll be reporting. the campaign is starting june 30th. we didn't have to do a report for the campaign. >> compare that to jeb bush's $114 million from his superpac. that's -- you are at a big disadvantage. >> so is everybody else. if my dad didn't work for briers and was president of the united states, i would probably have $114 million, too. there's certain advantages that come with that. everyone in the race acknowledges jeb has that advantage. that's fine. he will spend that money. if he uses it well, it will help him. it won't change who he is. >> when we were talking the last segment, you said it's time to go after the employers and immigration. if they don't have jobs to go to the right way, they won't come. money in politics, superpacs.

i know you are a governor, a politician. you know how to disarm. i hear this at home all the time. but, it's so toxic. it's so corruptive of the process that should a leader, at some point come forward and say it's got to stop. i have to have one, but you can't do it. is that impossible? >>

i have no influence. >> which no one believes. i'm telling you, as a former federal prosecutor, i'm not going near that. it's a violation of the law. the superpac has to make whatever decisions to spend money. if you don't like one of the ads and come to me, i'm sorry. i can't talk about it. i can't say on television that i don't like it. that could be sending a signal to the superpac. here is the thing. why not make the candidates responsible for everything? we are going to be responsible for one of us being president of the united states. why not for every dollar that comes in, every message that goes out and disclosure in 24 hours. if we did that, the.

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it's not how many headlines you get. it's how many voters show up. >> the voters like me and understand me and know i'll do the job. >> i'll fight as hard as i can. >> is joe biden running or not? >> everybody who knows joe likes him and respects him. if he does run, i promise an issue-oriented campaign. >> wild fires still scorching the west. >> ripping up the hillside. >> have to keep hosing ourselves

down because it was so hot. >> i was outrunning planes at 60 miles per hour. >> search and recovery efforts for a missing passenger plane. >> it's far too soon to say what the cause was. >> flying a fairly old aircraft. this is "new day" with chris cuomo, allison, and michae michaela. >> it's 8:00 in the east. donald trump you know that name. he's under the microscope. this time for a new reason. he has a policy proposal and a big challenge to all the other candidates. now on the policy side, he has an immigration plan where he says he's going to deport all undocumented and reverse president obama's executive orders on immigration. do the proposals have a chance at success? a clear trend emerging with the latest poll establishment candidates falling behind as outsiders get a boost. cnn sara murray is live in washington with all the latest.

how is it looking, sara? >> reporter: good morning. it looks like the first gop debate made a big difference in the top candidates that voters are considering. like you said, the nonestablishment candidates are moving to the top, and this weekend we got a big dose of retail politicking from some nonestablishment candidates in iowa. let's take a look. donald trump keeps soaring. landing at the top of a new fox news poll. trump isn't the only one climbing. rounding out the top tier of the anti-establishment crowd, neuro surgeon ben carson drawing 12% support and texas senator ted cruz with 10%. losing ground jeb bush coming in fourth with 9% support. a six-point drop from early august. now trump is offering more red meat for conservatives. a hard line immigration plan

saying on nbc's "meet the press" he supports deporting children brought to the u.s. illegally. a step further than some of the gop rivals. >> you're going split up families? no. we're going to keep the families together. we have to keep the families together. but they have to go. >> reporter: trump's six-page proposal calls for an end to birthright citizenship. enshrined in the constitution that grants citizenship to those born in the u.s. it puts stricter limits on legal immigration and pushes pe es pes on mexico if they refuse to fund a wall along the border. for most of the weekend, the spotlight was on retail politics at the iowa state fair. >> yeah! >> reporter: jeb bush looking to boast his sagging poll numbers spent four hours there sampling pork chops and practicing his fast pitch. meanwhile, his super pac is pitching in spending $10 million on ads in the early states.

as for trump, it was a costar phobic, chaotic spin through the fairgrounds. >> let's get a picture with everybody. >> reporter: complete with a free ride for the kids on his $7 million chopper. immigration advocates are already panning trump's immigration plan. the big question is what will voters think of it? we will not see trump on the campaign trail today. he's in new york reporting for jury duty. >> celebrities are just like us. [ laughter ] sara, thank you so much. on a democratic side, will vice president joe biden run for president? reading the tea leaves is proving to be tough but his advisors are reportedly giving him a deadline. could the hillary clinton e-mail scandal provide an opening for him? cnn is live from martha's vineyard where the president is on vacation. you have all the answers to my questions, apparently. >> reporter: that's right. while president obama is enjoying his vacation on martha's vineyard, vice president joe biden was spending his time off last week

determining whether he should make a run for the white house. sources close to the vice president said he's nowhere near a decision which is expected to come at the end of the summer perhaps as late as october. biden did spend his vacation in south carolina, an early primary state, and home to the biggest loyalist. his advisors are gaming out the challenge the vice president would face should he take on hillary clinton. she has the organization and already much of the party behind her. if you take a look at the polls, biden would have to play major catch up against vice president senator bernie sanders who is gaining on clinton. here is what sanders had to say about the possibility of a biden candidacy. >> i have known joe for many, many years, and everybody who knows joe likes him and respects him. the decision as to whether or not he runs is his. if he runs, i promise him an issue-oriented campaign debating major issues facing the american people. >> now as for hillary clinton, she and her husband former

president bill clinton were here over the weekend. a white house official tells me the former secretary of state did briefly chat with president obama saturday night. that was after mr. obama and bill clinton hit the golf course together on saturday. and that is a big challenge for vice president joe biden. this image of the obamas and the clintons really coming together. they were rivals once. now they're very much joined at the hip. i'm told that hillary clinton is seen both inside and outside this white house as someone who will pretend and expand on president obama's legacy. we should point out lately white house officials have been talking up the vice president saying president obama believes tapping biden as his vice president was the best political decision he made. no question about it, the president has to choose between hillary clinton to joe biden. it might have to be one of the toughest calls he'll have to make as president. >> jim, thank you. let's discuss it now with cnn political commentator paul. a senior advisor for priority

usa action a pro hillary clinton super pac. great to have you. paul, let's ask the question. is joe biden getting into this race? >> i have no idea. i have no idea. you have to ask the vice president that. first off, i don't think i know. he's a beloved figure across the country. everybody ought to give him the time and space to make the decision. i'm for hillary clinton and will be for hillary clinton. it will be good for the democratic party to have a robust debate. i think senator sand seers in ay that might irritate some of the hillary people. i think we need a robust debate. they're having it on the other side but on my side it's less negative. it's not negative at all. >> can you tell us about whether or not the clintons have mended faces with the obamas? is that just golf because, you know, that's an easy way to spend time together and they enjoy it or do you think it would be a tough choice for president obama to choose

between his vice president and someone who ran against him and then eventually served him? >> and his secretary of state. i'm sure jim acosta's reporting is right about that. it would put the president in a decision position. you don't run for president if you don't want to make tough decisions. i have no real insight. in terms of the obama and clinton roip, that was repaired a long time ago. it was difficult when they ran against each other. i know, because i talked to hillary at the time. she came to admire him in the process of running against him. hillary is a tough person she found senator obama to be tough. she was very proud to endorse him and campaign for him in '08 in a way i think surprised people. it took longer, perhaps, with her husband but at the 2012 convention he gave probably the best speech of the campaign on behalf of barack obama. i think they get along well now. >> your facial expression has been priceless. i wish we had a camera turned on you. >> i would pat paul on the back and say great attempt of trying

to play it down. the hillary camp is worried that if joe biden comes into this race. he's a better retail politician than her, he's more beloved than she is. if you put those two out there and you see the contrast the way hillary's dispositions is with voters and how she does the retail politics versus uncle joe. people love him everywhere he goes. i've had, you know, i've spent time around them. i've seen the way he works. i'm telling you they're worried. the fact there are so many people in the democratic party insiders in the last month, it was even reported over the weekend they're looking at the situation going, you know, we're starting to be concerned between hillary clinton's problems with her e-mails, what bernie sanders has been able to accomplish. it's a socialist, for goodness sakes running around catching fire. and hillary is slipping, slipping and people are concerned. i appreciate paul, of course, he's a loyalist. he's going to try to play it down. there's no doubt in my mind if joe biden gets in the race he'll upset the apple cart.

>> it's a problem for you if he gets in the race. you're not going to chase him about e-mails day. >> no. i think it will be a different approach. i think we would win. i mean, joe biden has his issues. >> what is he waiting for if it's that good? >> i think it's a family decision. i think it's been tough on his family. that family is very important to the bidens. i think he's really giving the death of his son. it was reported it was beau's dying wish for him to run again. i think he's giving it a serious consideration. i hope he gets in the race. >> of course you do. what do you think about donald trump coming forward? we asked him about his situation with women. he said i take care of them the way that matters. i hire them and pay it when they deserve it and they gave us numbers. he's issuing a challenge to everybody else. do you think hillary clinton can stand up to that kind of

scrutiny and show she puts women in positions of power and pays them as well or better? >> yeah. she doesn't run the clinton global initiative. that's her husband. >> she's connected. >> her senate office, her campaign now, the time she served as secretary of state. i think it's legitimate to take a look at it. if the standard is who is going to be best for american women, i think hillary clinton will win this in a landslide. >> i hope hillary clinton produces the numbers on who she pays and how much because it wasn't equal pay in her senate office. you get the opportunity, chris, to ask her and challenge her the say way for donald trump. she should answer for it. >> let me ask you about what donald trump laid out in terms of specifics for the immigration plan. he would make mexico pay for the border wall. he's now spelled out a little bit more how he would do that with charging higher rates for visas and things like that. he would deport all criminal aliens and their families. he would defund sanctuary citizens, and end birthright

citizenship. does this go far enough? >> no. i'm pretty hard line on immigration reform. i worked for a congressman from california for seven years and i saw firsthand how devastating illegal immigration is to the state of california, particularly. i mean, $25 billion a year alone on illegal immigration in the state of california. so i understand and i get it. i think the american people are very upset that the way the immigration system has been has seemed to have taken priority to people who should not be in this country at all. from benefits to jobs this is a problem. the american people are rightfully upset about this. what trump is doing he's touched that nerve and finally -- >> he touched a nerve. he touched a nerve. but the bar for you and your side and paul, and you and your side is going to be the fix. >> right. >> some smacks of infeasibility. why is nobody coming up and verifying. i don't know if you've seen the memo. but dealing with e verify is

literally a line item. at least it's in here. why don't you guys or hillary say here is my immigration agenda in i'm going after the employers. if you hire someone and you can't tell me they are legal, i'm coming after you criminally just like i come after them. why do you guys -- >> it's absolutely do that. >> nobody owns that position. everybody wants to be nice to the deep pockets. >> you have chambers of commerce and the corporatist republicans who are in bed with folks -- >> you would not have a problem if they could not find jobs. >> i agree with you 100%s. i hope our republican candidates would come out because it's one of the magnets here. they comes here for jobs. also, the public benefits and the fact they get free education because of birthright citizenship. that's a huge problem. people come here and have babies and the kids are eligible for the means tested welfare programs, which costs an enormous amount of money. there are several things. i agree with you, chris, 100% that workplace enforcement which

is huge which has gone down under the obama administration significantly. >> tara, paul, we have to leave it there. thank you so much for weighing in. great to see you guys. some other news in indonesia search crews are waiting for bad weather passes to see spasses. we are live in seoul with the latest. >> reporter: this was a short domestic flight about 30 minutes in it lost contact and villagers reported seeing it crash in the mountains. reported seeing wreckage and air crews reported seeing debris from the sky when they were able to search but the weather got too bad and they had to call off the search. ground teams spending the night in the jungles in the mountains. that means the families of the 54 people on board are spending another night with no news, no conformation. of the 54 people on board, five

of them were children and this is once again raising questions about the safety of air travel in indonesia. if you just look back over less than a year, back in december more than 160 people died when a plane on the way to singapore crashed into the sea. more recently in june a military aircraft went down and killed more than 130 people. many of them civilians and now the families of the people on board this aircraft 54 people on board. they're being told there are faint hopes for survivors, but they are not expecting that to be the case. they're expecting that this is the kind of crash when they're able to confirm it that people would not be able to survive. but certainly another sleepless night for those loved ones. chris? >> thank you for the report. we want to come back here to tell you about the wild fires that are burning out of control literally across the united states. we have 12 states impacted now. especially bad in eight western states. soaring temperatures not

helping. one woman's death being blamed on the evacuation? idaho. let's get to cnn meteorologist chad meyers following the latest live from cnn center in atlanta. do it this way, show us what is happening here. you've been good about why and how it's going to have lingering effect. >> certainly there's been the drought out west. forever it seems like three to five years now, but the deal is i don't think you can put your mind around this until you put it in perspective. there are 10,000 square miles already burned across the west this year. this year alone. that is bigger than the state of new jersey. out of control flame s spreadin already burning across 1 million acres in eight states. a growing wild fire crisis fuelled by erratic winds and lightning. and soaring temperatures. >> we're not out of the woods yet. over 100 large wild fires are burning uncontained.

>> this is the worst in all my life. officials invoking the highest alert level. >> it's upsetting. you don't want to see anybody lose their homes. >> resources are stretched thin as thousands of firefighters are working overtime. some battling conditions exacerbated by california's historic drought. >> every resource you can think of is on short demand in this country now. >> over a thousand residents warned to flee the infernos. >> it's unimaginable. >> some barely escaping the flames. >> this whole ridge was on fire. that whole hillside there. this whole hillside was on fire last night. i was literally outrunning flames at 90 miles per hour. >> hundreds of homes and structures from california to washington left smoldering reduced to ashes. >> it was pretty scary. i've never seen a storm -- a firearm storm like this travel this fast. >> in washington about 9,000 homes without fire as wild fires

burned down yule you till po-- poles. >> fire season not even near over out there. maybe the el nino will help with a little bit of rain. we can use a little rain in the northeast 93 for the high in new york city today, but it will feel like 100. 96 in d.c., but it will feel like 103. even a hot one in boston 89. finally, that big pile of snow they had melted a couple of weeks ago. if it didn't, this would have melted it, for sure. >> i never complain about the heat because i remember that pile of snow. it is urm summer. a deadly flair up in the civil war in syria. air strikes by the assad regime killing 82 people according to human rights groups. more than 250 others were wounded when air strikes hit the main market in the rebel held town. this is during rush hour. north korea threatening t i

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deep fried butter today. >> that's good. fried fried is good. control yourself! what do you think about donald trump's plan, specifically with respect to the feasibility of changing birthright, as you know is constitutional underpinnings of making mexico pay for a wall, which you know woubl difficult. what is your take on both of those? >> well, when i read through the document, in the end i thought it's a very, very positive document. it's bold, it's strong, it's broad. it covers most of the things you want to cover. i like to plug a couple more things in there. but with regard to birthright citizenship, for example, it is constitutional underpinnings, yes, but the way you start that is as you pass the legislation that puts an end to birthright citizenship. i happen to be the author of that legislation. it will be litigated, but there is clause that says and subject to the jurisdiction thereof all persons born in the united states and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are

american citizens. or united states citizens. i believe 0 to start the legislation, i think it is constitutionally sound to pass a legislation and end birthright citizenship. there aren't many countries in the world that have that policy. but i was curious, for some time about how donald trump would get mexico to pay for the wall. as you know, i've advocated for a long time for a wall or fence. i'm optimistic about this. i think the tact tiics are legitimate. there will be state department leverage. i think he can get to the place, but whether they do or don't pay for the wall, as he says in his document the cost of that wall pa pales in comparison to not building it. >> what is blowing holes in the wall, metaphorfully, you want to build is the employers here who hire people illegally to keep their costs low and effectively cut out the american job market.

why aren't you and your brothers and sisters who are strong on immigration in terms of keeping people out as strong on the employers? why don't you push criminal sanctions for them? why don't you go after their money? why don't you -- that would pay for your wall there. >> well, chris, i'm supportive of doing those things. the reason we haven't pushed it hardener the last six and a half years is because there's no way that one can imagine this administration is going to enforce any of that. i mean, they've gone to court to block local jurisdictions from mirroring federal immigration law let alone how they're accepting sanctuary cities. >> that has nothing to do with employers, congressman. they haven't done anything -- >> but if you're going to punish and find employers you have to have a justice department or a presidential administration that will follow through. i would do that. i think i have a better idea, and i was hopeful it would be in this document.

there's room for it within the language. it's not specified called the new idea act. it's a piece of legislation i offered several circles ago. it brings the irs to light and tells citizens if you're an employer and you use e verify you get safe harbor for those you hire. you cannot let the wages and benefits be paid to illegals. the irs would go through under a normal audit of business and run the social security numbers of the employees through. if e verify kicks them out and said sorry they can't work in the united states, then the employer would lose his business deduction. so your $10 hour illegal after the interest, penalty, charges on that would be $16 an hour employee. we clean up the work force and do so with the irs. we require them to work with the social security administration and department of homeland security. i know, that's within the --

i'll say within the list of things that donald trump would be looking at to support, but i don't -- it's not in the document. that's what i would do. i think it's actually an enhances our revenue stream. it would score out a plus by billions of dollars, and clean up our work force. >> it's interesting you would provide employers an amnesty you won't consider for the employees. you know, you say e strer ifver safe harbor. why wouldn't you punish them breaking the law? >> if you comply with the laws and use e verify to vet your employees, we there not punish y you. it's an incentive. >> if they're using it they wouldn't be bringing in employees they're not supposed to. one last quick thing, donald trump says he hasn't been proud of america. america hasn't been proud since ronald reagan. you think that's true? you had two different bushes in there since that time. you think america has no reason to be proud since ronald reagan?

>> i'm a pretty proud american, but i'll say this donald trump has tapped into this -- we have something we haven't addressed in this country. we watched as several presidents, a couple i can think, apologize to sometimes entire continents. we went into iraq and liberated iraq, our flag went up the flag pole where it lasted less than an hour and came down again. we had an secretary of state not wear an american flag on the lapel because she didn't want to insult somebody. i can't imagine someone like donald trump not all over the world with american flags. there's something he tapped into here, and nobody knows how long it will last. we've never seen anything like this before, but he happen ttap the discontent within america. the people who are fed up, they're fed up with political correctness, fed up with the disrespect, they are fed up with

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searchers spotted debris from a missing indonesia airliner with 54 people on board. how will officials determine what caused this disaster, and why was this airline even flying with the poor safety record? let's bring in david suisse the former faa accident and investigator. david, this airline has a terrible safety record. it has lost -- or been involved in 19 serious safety incidents, whatever that means. they say they lost eight whole planes in those 19, admitting i guess, irreparable damage. europe has banned this airline trigana from flying in or out of europe. was this airline still flying? >> that's the problem, . there should be people aware of the fact that the safety record is so bad. iko has been under close

surveillance of this airline and of the entire region, in fact, in indonesia air safety system is under great pressure because of the expanded growth. it's growing so quickly. the economy there is getting such there's a lot more middle class people flying now. they're having a hard time keeping up with the demand and the regulatory oversight is having a difficult time with the airline. >> help us understand this, who is responsible for letting the airline still fly? >> the indonesia government is 100% responsible for letting the airline fly. the iko sets rules and regulations along with another organization but basically we end up with the organization who actually has responsibility when it comes down to that country. they have a lot of guidance and help as far as they should be doing it. that takes a cultural shift, which is still underway now. >> if you're a tourist, david, the island hopping in that region, how do you know which

airline you can get on that is safe? >> well, there are ways to know. the iko websites and we'll get those as we go on today for people to understand where they should take the risk or where they shouldn't and who they should fly with. there are ratings for each airline and ratings available to the public for that. >> this is the thirden indonesi crash. is this a more dangerous region than other places? >> there's no doubt in my mind. i don't say that about anywhere, to be honest with you. i've tried to work out in my mind why this airline is flying right now. indonesia has a lot of work to do. there are some safe airlines in the region, there are. there are some under the radar, they're the middle of growth. the government is trying to prioritize how they do airline auditing.

they only have so many people to do the audits and they're not stepping up saying you can't fly until we do the audit. that needs to be done. >> there were some locals, villagers who reported seeing the crash and there has been some debris spotted. are searchers ever really going to find this plane? >> oh, yes, they are. the emergency locater transmitter -- i haven't heard any reports of the fact it was received, but high likelihood it was because they narrowed in on the location so quickly. likely there is a response from the emergency locater transmitter, which responds to a rapid deceleration. so as soon as it hits the ground it's going to send out a signal is received by 16 satellites that triangular the position. i believe the aircraft will be found. >> i mean it's so tough to get to. i think they know where it went down, but, i mean, it's so tough to get to. will they be able to retreat it to find out what went wrong? >> yes, they definitely will.

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office topper "straight outta compton." it profiles the ground breaking sometimes controversial wrap group called n.w.a. that rallied against the police. it comes at a time of attention between police communities and police while the tensions are hitting the peak. joining us now cnn contributor and entertainment host michelle turner because she's out west and brian stelter. good morning to both of you. i'm just looking at the box office results. ground breaking, sometimes controversial. this is a film that a lot of people have been waiting for. it's so interesting to see it come at a time when we see what is going on with black lives matter, et. cetera. all of that that is happening in the nation. >> yeah, i think you're right. fans of n.w.a. have known it's in the works have been waiting for beaited breath fo bathed br

breath. people feel like it's relevant today. i think it drove some of the ticket sales this weekend. i think it's interesting. i spoke with ice cube and the cast of this film and asked them about the relevancy. they said it's in 2015 it's still mirroring what they believe was going on in the 1980s. i think it's, you know, kind of touching a nerve with people and movie goers because they feel like this is what we're still living. >> so, brian, i'm looking a the statistics. according to l.a. times 59% was under 40. 52% of the audience was female. i like that. >> once again, movie goers are proving to the studios we're interested in more than just super hero movies. >> isn't that an interesting time? we're supposed to be in summer block buster -- >> right. they call it the anti-super hero block buster.

>> can we be redwieng that? >> we have conversations when we have female-driven movies that do well. >> this isn't a chick flick. >> that's right. same issue when a film about minority issues and the black community, gangster rap comes out you see headlines saying surprising. can almost be insulting. why is it surprising? when this movie makes $59 million compared to the expectations that's a surprise but good news to the marketplace. >> what i appreciate hearing is -- it seems early to be saying this, but i'm hearing that this could potentially be an oscar contender. >> it's never too early to talk about the oscars. you know it's my world! that's all i think about. gary did a great job directing this. if you know his directing style, his fingerprints are all over the movie. it's really good.

i know, there's a lot of people out there who would have been fans of the movie like myself anyway because i did like that music of the era. it's a really well done film. acted, written, directed. listen in august it's hard to talk about oscars and it's hard to -- >> it kind of is. >> we said that about "the butler" and other movies that didn't necessarily translate. i think it's worthy of that type of recognition. especially for f gary gray. sometimes get lost in the mix at least in august. the "ides of march" debunked that lately. >> let me pivot to another thing that is getting people's attention. let me pivot to big news for any of us that are geeks. "star wars" and disney. i know, guilty as charged. all three of all fall into that category. a theme park based on "star wars." like 14 acres, two parks each. >> disney announced over the

weekend. they are making good on their purchase three years ago of lucas film. the creator of "star wars." three years they bought lucas for $4 billion. i think they're going to prove it was a steal. you'll see the parks, you'll see more of the "star wars" movienn >> i'm supportive of the idea, but is this a risky proposition when you think about how well people know the "star wars" franchise, they know it better than some of the characters themselves in some of the people involved in the production. is there a bit of risk in doing this? >> i think there is. and i think, you know, we made the point we were discussing a little bit earlier this is no longer, you know, from the mind of george lucas, really, because he sold the company. i mean, he still, you know, his stamp is on it. >> sure. >> you're taking risk when you're stepping into the new category. now, listen, kind of like nwa, i think fans of the movie will be fans of the theme park as well.

but i think it's a risk trying to put all your eggs in this type of basket because you just never know what you're going to get. look at fantastic four, they didn't do well. they haven't been able to buy a great film. >> i'll buy all three of us tickets and go. thank you for joining us to talk about it. we'll have your top stories on newsroom right after our break. ♪ they lived. ♪

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happening now in the "news room" donald trump heads to court. it's not what you think. he's got jury duty! a plan to overhaul

immigration, also. >> we have to make a whole new set of standards. >> his plan for a border wall and overturning the law granting citizenship to people born in the united states. >> they have to go. >> as a new poll cements his frontrunner status. plus 1 million acre burning across eight states. >> it's really upsetting. we don't want to see anybody lose their home. >> soaring temperatures not helping and resources stretched thin. and making history a professional baseball player comes out. how brewers minor leaguer david denson told his teammates and their reaction let's talk live in the cnn "newsroom." good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you for joining me. the donald trump circus comes back home to jury duty? oh, yes. mr. trump has been summoned to serve on a new york city jury. he assures america