logistical difficulty. on top of all that, all deeply personal, deeply sentimental for mr. biden, whose late son wanted him to make one more run. jim acosta, has new reporting on how this is going down inside the obama administration. he joins us from martha's vine yard. what are they saying about the possibility of a biden run? >> well, and er first of all th joe biden charter is picking up steam. taking his time whether he will jump into the race. a well-placed source tells cnn though the vice president is a beloved figure inside the white house. no question about that. there is little enthusiasm for a biden candidacy inside the west wing. so far, you know, we should point out, a movement to draft joe biden for president is gaining momentum. collected some 200,000 signatures. the vice president is fueling speculation himself. kidding considering a run in south carolina last week. anderson, well placed democratic source i talked to.

told me there are concerns at the white house. a biden candidacy would end badly. damaging his image as elder statesman in the democratic party. this person said "i'm not getting any sense of a joe biden caucus inside the white house." this white house is invested in hillary clinton. with several aide working in prominent positions for hillary clinton. >> it would offer a dilemma for the president. a lot of, as you said, a lot of his former campaign people are already signed on for hillary clinton. and also just to try to maintain president obama's legacy. do they believe hillary clinton would do a better job of that? >> yes. you know this would put the president in the difficult position of having to make a choice. between two of his top members of the so-called team of rivals. even the he ough he is unlikelyo something like that publicly, he could do that privately. at the same time, anderson.

top democratic sources have told me inside and outside the white house. they believe hillary clinton is the party's best hope for protecting and expanding obama's legacy. they don't think joe biden can do that. they don't think joe biden can win the white house. make no mistake, a deep affection for the vice president inside the white house. where it is clear officials are given biden all the time he need to grieve his son beau's recent death and weigh his political future. as they often say inside the white house, anderson, the president believes that picking biden as his runningmate in 2008 was the smartest decision that he ever made. that is high praise coming out of the white house for the vice president. >> you mention time, in terms of a time line. had the vice president given any clues about when he would announce one way or another? >> you know, i talked to a source familiar with the vice president's thinking earlier today. at this point this source is saying, that inside biden world this decision is expected at the end of the summer.

er andson, a lot of people think the end of the summer, the end of august. no, they're saying september 23rd. circle that date on your calendar. we should have a decision by then. that's technically the end of summer. we may have several more weeks to go. this biden speculation that seems to be running rampant at this point. >> jim acosta, appreciate the reporting tonight. as we mentioned, senator joe biden's political calculations have to include how badly damaged he and others think hillary clinton is. today, her troubles grew. several hundred. several hundred e-mail messages. tens of thousands she stored on a personal server while secretary of state. the state department said it is going to put those additional messages under review because they might contain classified information. late today i asked former george w. bush attorney general, alberto gonzalez about that. >> how big a problem do you think this is for her, whether politically or legally? >> i think potentially it is could be a very serious legal problem. obviously a lottery mans to be

seen. there is the possibility, information may have existed. and to the extent it is a le gal problem or not a legal problem. it does create challenges for hillary clinton. i mean she was secretary of state. a position of great responsibility. and i think one would have to question the judgment, exercised, or ther judgment, exercised in this case. a lot of facts remain to be uncovered. just a question of allowing the fbi, allowing them to dupe their job, and let's get a better understanding of what happened here? >> spoke with the attorney general, donald trump's immigration plan. that's ahead. justice correspondent, pamela brown joins us now with the latest. pamela, what are you learning about the e-mails? >> anderson, 305 documents from clinton's private server flagged by state department review for further scrutiny from various intelligence agencies to

determine whether they contain classified information. this is from a state department court filing that, that came out today. that filing says, a sample of approximately 20% of clinton e-mails reviewed, out of the sam pull, approximately 5.1% were recommended for referral. it is unknown at this point, anderson, if any of the 305 e-mails contain classified information. >> is there anything specific about these documents that was suspicious? just the subject matter? >> i'm told officials are being very cautious because these, these are documents that are supposed to be released as part of the freedom of information act. so they were essentially flagged because they may contain information that could be cause for concern to certain intelligence agencies if their release is part of the public. so essentially, what the state department is doing is part of this review is saying -- asking the intelligence agencies to have their -- classification experts take a look at these e-mails and make sure it would be okay for them to be released

to the public. we know the fbi is investigating this. and rebuilding the server back to its original state to see what can be retrieved. authorities have to put the server back on line, taken offline by the clintons. get it up and rung in an isolated environment. from there investigators deter men h how it was configured and if classified information passioned through. any one connected to the server could be part of the investigation depending on where it goes, anderson. >> there is still a lot not known. bah the documents have the been flagford review doesn't mean they definitely have classified information. >> yeah, that's absolutely right. as i said. officials are being very cautious. some one i spk to oke to today, they're being conservative. nothing classified by the

agencies is released to the public. and it's unknown. worth mentioning here for context, anderson, it's sometimes an art more than a science. it can be a little murky, what's classified, what is not. that's part of the reason why they're giving the e-mails to the agencies to determine if they're classified. >> appreciate the update. thank you. quite a challenge obviously to face if-up a you are not rung f office. talk about the implications. maggie, presidential campaign correspondent for "the new york times," david, presidential adviser to democrats and republicans all the way back to the 1970s. >> you have two attorneys general, former attorneys generals, both republicans, beyond political problems, hillary clinton may have a legal problem. how concerned is the clinton camp? you saw it go from minorish to

to a different approach. they're not really sure where this goes? this could go in a couple different directions. i think that the odds-on assumption for most is that this likely stay where it is and has been. they don't know that. they don't know what, once the fbi is looking around. they don't know what they're going to come up with. and this unpredictable nature of this is very alarming to some supporters. >> februanobody likes a nonprede campaign. david, is there a tiching point with all of this. as the bad as it seems. the clintons have been in bad positions before. investigations after investigations. they have been up against. they survive. is there something different about this time? >> i don't think we know yet, anderson. there could be a tipping point if it is revealed that their content in the e-mails that, either is illegal because you are not supposed to be sending out, unclassified internet. classified documents. that's illegal.

we don't know yet if that has occurred. we don't know what is in the content. when you have 60,000 e-mails. the press could be poking around. her opponents could be exploiting, you don't know. i will tell you this. we don't know how serious this is. as a foreign policy matter. we do know it is serious politically. she is paying a price on multiple fronts now. her most important credential of her being president was tenure as secretary of state being tarnished. the -- the string of interest proposals she has made in public policy, are being, overlooked. and obscured. a toll on how trust worthy she is. we have hillary clinton on one side, donald trump on the other. more than half the country doesn't trust them. i can't remember that. >> maggie, on the joe biden

front. jim acosta reporting not a lot of enthusiasm in the white house for a biden run is that what you are hearing? >> i'm hearing conflicting things. some biden loyalists around the president. others think it would be bet for the president's legacy if hillary clinton was the nominee. >> that could continue his legacy in a different way. >> his policy legacy. you have seen the obama campaign apparatus surround hillary clinton. not all of it. a lot of it. i think what was interesting the last couple days, joe biden according to reports extended the deadline his advisers are saying. decide by october 1st. much later than what woo have been hearing, early september. also allows for the possibility maybe there will be new information about the e-mail server with hillary clinton. the message-up are hearing from some people around joe biden. well you just don't know what is going to happen. >> david, there is a risk to joe biden and for the last, you know, year and a half of the obama presidency. that he, as of now he is an

elder statesman. democratic party. that risks that in their final run? >> joe biden has earned the right to run. after vice president. what george w. bush did. the long here waits, to maggie's point. i think more of a gamble it becomes. he is going to get in. ought to probably do it sooner rather than later. unless another big shoe drops on the e-mail question. >> david, vice president widen, you see hillary clinton. if you are him. you see hillary clinton day after day. another headline that is the advantage i guess of waiting. is that you wait until the last possible second to make a decision just in case something else comes out. >> absolutely. and -- you also get a better sense of how the wind blows. the longer you wait. the excitement about him running, people waiting for him.

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after a lot of promises but not much in the way of specifics donald trump has a detailed plan on the table. it want up on his website over the weekend. it is more for the press than supporters. there is something out there fact checked by the experts and weighed by voters. it calls for tripling the number of ice officers, ending birth right citizenship, deporting all undocumented immigrants and making mexico pay for the fence or wall as mr. trump calls it on the southern border. if the mexican government doesn't pay it calls for impo d impounding billions sent back to mexico from illegal if grants

working in the country. whether that is realistic, is one question. how well do border fences work? tom foreman has been looking into that tonight. he joins us. how would donald trump's version of a brd eborder wall work, tom? >> it will start by being the biggest thing in the world we see like it in the modern world. this wall would be 2,000 miles long in its completed stage. already about 700 miles of the border have been covered by a fns fence of some sort. if we want to double that part. not finishing it. getting 700 miles. to do that and put all the security you need to make it work would come out to a price tag of $23 billion. that is a tremendous amount out there. bear in mind some of this is over terrain that is so rough, you may not be able to build a wall there. then you have to add the cameras and the drones and the patrols and the motion sensors and the helicopters and everything. and that's one of the reasons

donald trump's critics are saying this idea is a fantasy. >> governments all over the world have tried building walls, barriers, what do they show us how they do or don't work? >> they have shown us they can work in a limited fashion. more than a dozen locations around the world. yeah, barriers, fences, walls, puts up. let's look at some. israel and the palestinians. there have been big disputes for a long time. israel used many walls around areas where the palestinians live. israel says by putting these up, they managed to cut down on terrorism. palestinians say, you have managed to cut into the human rights. disputes on almost all of the properties. if you go over towards kashmir and look at india and pakistan. working for many years there on a double row of electrified fences. a lot of talk about landmines in between them. again. india says it makes us safer. some pakistanis disagree. of course, probably the most well known zone like this in the world is the demilitaryized zone between north korea and south

korea. this is 160 miles long. it is about 2 miles wide in some places. and it is the most heavily guarded military border in the world. and yet even here, sometimes people manage to sneak across or dash across from the north to the south. seeking asylum. and several decades ago, there were tunnels dug by the north, beneath it. bottom line is, anderson, even in much more limited scale. and very heavily guarded. building a barricade, building a wall as much as people want to think it means security it just doesn't. people find a way to get through. >> thank you very much. tom foreman. if the nation's first latino attorney general and loyal republican, alberto gonzalez has a lot to say. we want his take on donald trump's plan. co-author of a conservative compassionate approach to reform. i spk to hoke to him. you spent a lot of your career in government and law

enforcement, is donald trump's approach to illegal immigration good for the united states to say nothing of your party? >> well he has some interesting idea about immigration reform. you know it's nice to see he has got a plan. there are certain things i certainly agree with. we are a nation of laws, our laws should be enforced. i do believe in border security. i think we need to have an immigration policy that both helps our economy and promotes our national security. bun thi one thing that is missing out of his plan he doesn't discuss how do we achieve it? through executive action. much look president obama has done, severely criticized by republicans. do we do it by comprehensive legislation? do we do it through piecemeal legislation? so that is a very important component that he is still missing from what mr. trump outlined this weekend. >> when he talks about doing away with birth right citizenship that would mean an amendment to the constitution? >> that of course, a very difficult proposition. i think rather than spending the energy focusing on this t. it

would only address a small portion of the immigration challenge. i think rather than, than putting all of our energy in this effort which would be a tremendous, require tremendous effort. i think it would be wiser to pursue a comprehensive legislative strategy that deals with major components of imgraegs i immigration reform, tougher work place enforcement. border security. putting those who are qualified. in this country that qualify, into some kind of temporary legal status. so i think that is a much better approach. makes much more sense than what mr. trump has outlined. >> when donald trump talks he will build a wall, a massive huge wall across the u.s.-mexican border and going to get mexico to pay for it. does that sound realistic to you? >> no it does not. it doesn't sound realistic. this is an american problem. i think to blame the mexican government for the problem, to me, i disagree with.

we have to come up with a realistic solution. the problem with biflding a wall of course. terribly expensive. if would not deal with the, estimated up to half the people here unlawfully today came to the country lawfully. if we built the 3,000 mile fence. you know it wouldn't, it wouldn't address the problem of visa overstayers. i do believe we need some kind. we need border fencing. but i think we can take advantage of natural terrain. rely on changing technology. to achieve greater border security. i don't think we need a 3,000 mile fence. thinking, proposing that mexico pay firt. -- pay for it. >> the other claim donald trump made. hasn't shown any, indicate heed has some. hasn't shown any. the mexican government itself is sending people illegally over the border into the united states. rapists and others. some direct state sponsored action. have you ever heard or seen any proof of anything like that in

the many, many years that illegal immigrants have been coming into the united states? >> no, i certainly ever saw any evidence of that when i worked in the white house there see any evidence of that at the justice department. i had multiple meetings and conversations with my mexican counterparts. had several visits to mexico. and so, i have not, i am not aware of any evidence of that. if mr. trump has evidence of that. i thin we would all be interested in seeing it. good talking to you. thank you. the attorney general talked about paying for the wall. i want to turn to the other concern, central one. how it will play out on the ground on the actual border. more on that now from gary tuchman. >> reporter: can a continuous wall be built along the 1,954 border shared between the united states and mexico and be impenetrable like donald trump wants or close to impenetrable. there are some tall border walls look this one in nogales,

arizona. they're challenging to go over, through, under. it happens all the time. they're not impenetrable. this is harder to pass than this. this much more commonly seen border fence along the mexico-u.s. frontier. railroad ties. 7-foot fence. barbed wire which you often see. barbed wire is easy to cut. if someone is motivated to go through the desert here in southeastern arizona where we are right now. they can easily get through. we will give you an idea of how easy it is to cut. not only does the barbed wire go on here. no fence. just the railroad ties. now i am in mexico. any body that would come through here has to go under the railroad tie. and they're in the united states. so yf looseobviously a big wall people out much better than this. you can build big wall along the border. can you build a continuous wall from the pacific ocean in california to the gulf of mexico in texas? the answer is no.

there are a number of reasons for them. firstly we start with the fact that there are many ranchers who own land along the border who would all have to sell their land to the federal government. then you have indian reservations on the border. and then you are dealing the issue of the topography. terrain. mountains, streams. make it impossible or nearly impossible to build a 15-or 20-foot concrete or steel wall. you can build a fence here like the one that is here now. but once you get to this fence. you would always have a gap right here, maybe a wall on this side. wall on this side. and immigrants going under this fence. donald trump says to believe him, when he ex-mraclaims nobod will get through the wall he will build. facts on the ground will indicate at the least it will be a promise quite challenging to keep. >> gary tuckman on the mix cannes bor mexican border.

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talking immigration tonight, for policy specifics from donald trump. the truth is winning the white house will hinge on something less wonky. something we saw play out in the first debate. factored into every presidential campaign since presidents first started campaigning. people have been elected president without it, but not many. and not in a while. what is it? charisma. we are going to talk in a minute who has get and who does not right now. but first background from chief political correspondent dana bash. >> reporter: it's a stark reality of modern politics. never more so than right now. charisma counts. it counts big. >> ladies and gentlemen, president of the united states! donald j. trump!

>> reporter: experience as a billionaire celebrity gives donald trump an edge. you don't need fame and fortune to barack throureak through as know how to seize the spotlight. >> you know they say the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull? lipstick. >> reporter: dazzling an audience a skill that knows no partisan divide. >> when you are running for the presidency then you have got to expect it and you know, you just got to kind of let it -- you know? >> i own a timber company? that's news to me. you need some wood? >> reporter: and a lack can be a curse. ♪ for purple mountain's majesty above the fruited plains ♪ >> and health care for children

was the assigned a much lower priority. >> do we have a doctor here with us? >> reporter: the most charismatic politicians often soar to victory aided by their delivery. >> i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> reporter: or flat out showmanship. ♪ and like him or not, donald trump has raised the bar and the volume. >> the world is cracking up and they're worried about my tone. i should be calm. down. down. >> dana bash, cnn, washington. >> republican primary voters like what they see in donald trump. i spoke with three political professionals each has seen charisma. strategist anna navaro, rich

galen, and hillary ronen. she and anna are cnn political commentators. >> how much success in this race is based on charisma. not going to great policy details. not going to specifics. there is certainly tons of charisma. >> sure, a nfl tee acovelty act. that's what novelty acts bring to stage. they're fun to watch and cover. novelty acts on either side. that's really the same thing, except the others sort of charisma that you were discussion, bernie sanders brings to the stage with 28,000 people coming to, he is not going to be the nominee either. so there is something about these that are fun to watch, but when people begin to narrow down the issue of voting for president, or potential president, they begin to take it a lot more seriously. >> you don't think donald trump can go all the way? i mean, saying he is a nfl tee act makes it sound like something you find in a 99 cent store. he's clearly tapped into

something and people, you know he is very far out in the polls now? >> he might have tap danced into something, to stay with the theme of this thing. but we'll see. four years ago, michele bachmann was the bell if of the ball. won the iowa straw poll. she was everybody was looking to see what, what would happen next. what republicans would have to do if, if she maintained her lead all the way through. she was out the day after iowa. >> hillary, the other interesting thing, about charisma how much it can draw attention from deficiencies. look at bill clinton. voters forgave a lot of things they might have not forgiven with other candidates. >> yeah, i think, i disagree with rich. i think that presidents do not get elected that don't have some charisma in the modern day and age. clearly go back to the country's history. there are lots of super boring old white guys who got elected. not in the day, today where pop culture and social media and television all matters so much. and i think that what we are seeing with donald trump, what

we are seeing with other candidates is, people want to experience it. they want to feel their candidates. that's why trump is successful. i think it is why hillary clinton is better in smaller groups than she is in big crowds. because people can feel they're warmth more easily. as a political consultant. what we try to do is try to help people bring out their authentic self. guys like donald trump don't need that help. but it is very important. >> anna, how dif come a position is, i mean like jeb bush for instance. i don't know. never met him. he may be like hillary clinton. very great, kind of, in smaller groups. or even on a larger stage. but when he is paired next to donald trump, at that debate for instance, standing next to him. it is a difficult position for him to be in. because whatever his charisma may be, it certainly is hard to -- out-charisma trump. >> i think the republican debates were actually a contest not only of substance but of

charisma. you need both of them the you need personality. when you have some outsized folks on the stage. chris christie, like a donald trump. substance is not enough. you need to show you have a brain. but you also need to show you have a heart. and a pulse. i think that it's part of also having the ability to perform. charisma, anderson, it's like, it is like indoor plumbing. can you survive without it? sure you can. but it sure makes life easier when you have it. and part of it is not only having it. part of it is also being able to project it. because i have known people who are very charismatic in person. and yet, you put a tv camera on them, and they look stiff as a board. >> interesting, hillary, al gore is a politician who maybe suffered because he wasn't overly charismatic in some settings. some of the debates. he was sort of sighing.

he was clearly a thoughtful guy. ton of experience. knew a lot of issue. when you put him on the stage. next to george w. bush. people gravitated to bush. >> they did. to gore's detriment. the other problem al gore had was that he was so overtly trying to show people that he actually had charm or had charisma as we are calling it the effort seemed more forced. the key here is let people see your inner self. you know there is a passion to wanting to become president of the united states. and, and, if people can't see that. then they're, just not going to believe in you. >> most of us didn't have it. and people that try to do it, i think, you know, they try to do it and they look phony. it just, just wipes them out completely. >> anna, hillary, rich, thank you all. >> just ahead, a florida hospital shuts down its

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major update to a story we have been following more than a year. a hospital in florida, shutting down its heart surgery program. after a cnn investigation found its mortality rate for open heart from 2011 to 2013 was more than three times the national average. since 2011, at least nine babies died after undergoing heart surgery at st. mary's medical center in west palm beach and 10th baby left paralyzed. our senior correspondent elizabeth cohen brought us the story in june. here is a portion of the story. >> reporter: just weeks into life this tiny baby, leila mccarthy needed heart surgery. here at st. mary's medical center in west palm beach, dr. michael black performed the dell tat procedure to widen the narrow aorta, a birth defect since birth. >> he made it seem like he was the best person to dupe this. >> it was very like, no sweat,

don't worry about it. a walk in the park. >> reporter: but the surgery was a disaster. >> i looked at her and her legs had started, they had stiffened up a lot. they started going out almost at table top position. >> reporter: after the surgery, leila was paralyzed. here she is today. the mccarthy's had no idea that their daughter's tragedy had a disturbing back story. one that no one had told them. just three months before leila's operation, a baby had died after heart surgery by dr. black. five months before that, alexander gutierrez mercado died, a month before, kyari sandershorrible that you can go into a pre gram like that. they can be dishonest and not tell you. >> reporter: one week after the surge year that left leila

paralyzed. amelia, and parish right, and lanedon summerford eight months after that. the hospital and heart surgeon rejected requests for an on camera in the view. so we tracked down the ceo to give him a chance to explain. mo hi, mr. carboni, elizabeth cohen at cnn. how are you. sir, we want to know what the death rate is for your babies at pediatric heart hospital and yo program? he also wouldn't answer the parents' question, why did so many babies die at st. mary's? last year a team of doctors from the state of florida's children's medical services evaluated the program. it was at the request of st. mary's which sought to "evaluate and identify opportunities for improvement." the head of the team, dr. jeffrey jacobs, professor of cardiac surgery at johns hopkins found st. mary's was doing too few surgeries to get good at it. how few? in the united states, 80% of

children's heart surgery programs perform more than 100 surgeries a year. each procedure giving them valuable expertise. but the review of st. mary's pre gram shows in 2013, the hospital performed just 23 operations. it is unlikely that any program will be capable of obtaining and sustaining high quality when performing less than two operations per month. dr. jacobs wrote. >> elizabeth cohen joins us now. the hospital closed the program today. before that they were defending it weren't they? >> they did, anderson. even after our report they said it was a high quality program with a high quality surgeon. after that report aired they said, look, we have a 4.7% adjusted mortality rate. risk adjusted mortality rate. they said that was within the range of the national average for hospitals in this country. they never explained exactly what they meant by that mortality rate. they didn't explain the numbers that went night.

how many babies lived. how many died. >> they're now, what blaming the media for closing down? >> they are indeed. they're blaming the media. i am going to read part of the statement now, anderson. they said the inaccurate media reports on our program had made it significantly more challenging to build sustainable volume in our program. >> but a state panel of experts reviewed the hospital and what did they end up recommending? >> right, we mention that in our story. so the chair of the program, dr. jeffrey jacobs, he said, look, you should stop doing surgeries on babies under age of 6 months. stop doing heart surgeries on babies under 6 months and stop complex surgeries on any child or baby. and the hospital didn't take that recommendation. they didn't follow that recommendation. and in fact, babies died after that recommendation was made. >> wow. they're still blaming the media. elizabeth cohen. thank you for the reporting. appreciate it. coming up-- the death toll is rising after a bomb ripped

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lives. more than 100 hurt, some badly, after a bomb went off in bancock, thailand. the bomb exploded near a hindu shrine in the middle of a tourist area, it's been tauld the times square of bangkok. andrew stevens is there for us. >> reporter: we've got the forensic team down there. it's about 150 meters down this road. this road is still blocked off to traffic n. fact, the whole area around here is still blocked off. forensic teams, they are sending sniffer dogs in here. word is koms coming to us that the police are now saying they have identified what the explosive device was. it was pipe bomb which they say was wrapped in some sort of white material. i'm not clear exactly what that is. they also say more importantly, there was a warn made to police.

but they didn't give specific details on when or where. but the police are saying they were warned. at this stage, anderson, they are no closer to saying they have a motive or who is behind this. >> even though they are saying they got a warning they don't know what group or individual gave that warning? >> yeah. basically, they kept. very, very vague. there are theories, and there is a lot of speculation here in bancock as to who could be behind it. there are several sort of strains of theory at the moment, anderson. one of them is that this could be a big escalation in the violence we've seen, the street protests we have seen in the bangkok over the years between rival political factions. there has been violence in the past, explosions on the street in the past but nothing like this. this is the biggest attack we've seen by a long way in recent times. that's one possibility. there is also an insurgency in

southern thailand. is it targeted to police and rarely come to the capital, which is several hundred miles away. that one is unlikely. there was some suggestion there could be chinese muslims involved, some of that community, who are pushing for a separate state in china. some have been deported recently. some people here are suggesting that could be a reason. but it's all just speculation at the moment. >> are there more security measures on the streets in bangkok? have you seen? >> yeah. i mean, definitely. you are seeing more police on the street. and the -- remember, this is a military government here. this is a government which took power by coup more than a year ago. we are seeing a heavy military presence around here, around the blast site and schools are closed well. they are going to try to open up the streets in the next three hours. they want to try to get business

back to normal. what they said in the hours following the blast, they thought this hindu shrine may have been deliberately targeted because of tourists who go there. this as you say is the times square of bangkok. it's surrounded by swanky shopping malls, and five-star hoemgtss and that was a very popular tourist destination. it could be a deliberate target. for the first time in nine years sold remembers joining the battle against wildfires in the western united states. they are working in hot, dry conditions in a couple of states n. california alone, at least 19 fires are burning. paul vercammen is in mont bellow and joins me again live. >> reporter: i lost communication so i'm not sure you can hear me. as you can imagine, in these fire conditions sometimes the communication goes now. i know you were talking about the soldiers being deployed. let me tell you what they are

going to do. talking to federal fire officials they won't besend sent into hazardous and complex positions. how the soldiers help, infantry and military soldiers were fort st. louis and mccord. they will spot fire lines and be on the watch for spot fires which can be problematic. when they break out, they will put those out. that allows the more experienced firefighters to go after other thing. there are so many fires burning throughout the west, they say it's the most they have seen so spread out since 2007. i apologize, anderson. i don't know if i will be able to hear you. >> appreciate the reporting. paul ver cammen. we'll be right back.

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