tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN August 24, 2015 5:00pm-6:01pm PDT
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cooper starts now. good evening, john berman in for anderson. thank you for joining us. breaking news tonight. you will see it only here on cnn. late word vice president joe biden has just received the biggest green light you can get for a presidential run. cnn senior washington correspondent jeff zeleny broke the story and joins us by phone. the president and vice president had lunch and the vice president left with more than dessert. >> that's right. president obama has always said this will be, you know, joe biden's own decision on this. i am told that he gave his blessing to a potential run. did not try to talk the vice president out of his pursuit of the presidency. it is important to point out the vice president has still not decided. but this lunch today was talking about the 2016 campaign. messages. what is happening out in the
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country. economic messages. policies. the president did not try to walk him back at all. he, i'm told he gave his blessing to run. of course now it is up to the vie president if he decides. >> not an endorsement, not an endorsement. a blessing to run if joe biden decide to do it. if you can believe it, the meeting between the president and vice president, not the only meeting today that is stirring speculation. jeff, i understand there is a meeting going on at the vice president's residence, right now. also of note, that include two of the president's most trusted advisers. >> that's right, john. two of the president's top advisers, longest serving political advisers, his election lawyer for years. and anita dunn, communications director in the white house to help craft his presidential campaign. those two are among a few others meet right now with vice president biden in the naval observatory. his official residence in washington. they have not yet signed on to
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any type of biden campaign. but they're among the people that the vice president is talking to, as he decides to, if he is going to run or not. and again, everyone we speak to throughout, so-called biden world, is still saying he has not yet made his decision. john, he is getting as much information as possible. met with elizabeth warren over the weekend. this meeting signifies if he decided to run there are people from the obama inner sescircle doubt be there. >> people meeting with biden tonight. talking how to run. not whether to run. jeff zeleny, senior washington reporter with big breaking news on two fronts involving joe biden. wait, there is more. our chief national correspondent john king has the details on that. he joins us now. along with cnn political co commentat commentator, patty doyle, ran hillary clinton's race and knows
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a couple of the people involved. carl bernstein author of "a woman in charge, the life of hillary rod a.ham clinton." joe biden meeting with the president, obama advisers, talking politic. john you have news about meetings with fundraisers. >> john, more evidence this is going to continue. exploded into the next level. elizabeth warren meeting first stroke. blessing from the president which is gold to joe biden the second stroke. meeting tonight. part of what i am told next series. vice president meeting with people who put campaigns together. legal work. communications message. after labor day. fundraisers will come in. state party leaders and national party leaders consulted. most of these in political meetings. the president has social meetings, rosh hashana.
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the president will have time. put his afrm around him. in a series of social events and official political meetings the president throughout september will continue consultations. john, the goal is to decide by the end of the month. again, everyone insists jeff told you. no final decision has been made. what we are hearing from people close to the vice president. those in the meetings with him. not people hearing second, third, fourth hand, he tells them he is more and more comf t comfortable with the idea of running. i am told he told people he wants to run. heave wan he wants to get a sense of terrain. can he make it a good race? does he want to run? can he put the pieces together? >> more than a trial balloon. more like a rocket ship. patty, the latest reporting on the lunch. president obama gave his blessing to joe biden to run. you know, the president, i don't think it is surprising he would give his blessing. joe, if you want to run.
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run. what we are seeing today with the leak of this meeting. the leak of the blessing. josh on the white house podium stag wh saying what a great guy the president says he is. this is more than a blessing i think? >> the vice president is a great guy. clearly there is a lot of affection and love between the president and vice president. and of course, the president was going to give him all the room he needs to make his decision. >> there are ways to say we had lunch. there are ways to say we had lunch. this seems to be beyond that. >> the next step is will he decide to actually run. if he decide to run, then, the president and the was are in a bit of a pickle. you know. do they endorse? if they endorse, who do they endorse? and if there is going to be an endorseme endorsement? what's the time? early on, where they can make a difference, help him raise money. help her raise money. or do they let it play out a little bit. you know, it will be interesting
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to see. >> the president will be in a pickle. so will hillary clinton which we will talk about. before we bring her up specifically, carl, you have been reporting, hearing people close to joe biden saying that if he decide to to run. he could say i want to do this for one term. i want to be a within term president. because of his age. do you think it is an advantage to make that statement going into a campaign? we have heard of that in the past. they never seem to go ahead with it. >> he has until if he were to win the nomination to do it. there is probably no necessity to do it now. the time to really do it would be if he had the nomination. in the mind of voters, uneasy about his age. he could do it. but then i know he is thinking about it. people i talked to when i first reported it. the real factor that is driving so much of this, is the distrust within the party now about the viability of hillary clinton's campaign.
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she is on very shaky ground within her own party by people disappointed in the democratic party, how she has run the campaign, with her difficulty with being straight forward and truthful about the matters of the server. that's what's brought on so much of this along with donald trump. >> john, if you are hillary clinton, and clinton campaign watching this, you have known that, that joe biden was thinking about it a while. over the last four days, this has gone to a whole new level. >> it certainly has. it's gone to a whole new level at a key moment. in an odd way this could in the long run if joe biden doesn't run or runs and can't beat hillary clinton in an odd way help her. what we were talking for about two weeks before joe biden started to dominate. the rise of bernie sanders. within striking distance of him ear clinton. now he its sort of on pause, while we talk will joe biden get in. him e hillary clinton, serious vulnerability, a conversation. and carl and patty have ben
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through this. some of this isn't fair to hillary clinton whchlt in you have an investigation, and you have the justice department involved. you have the same lawyers coming out of the woodwork that a lot of senior democrats saw back in the bill clinton days. they get nervous. trust me. i covered the clintons in those days. the white house in those days. and the investigations never turn out as-up expect it. always been some kind of surprise. is that fair to hillary clinton? probably not. a fact. a history. an older senior democrat. lawyers get involved. david kendall profile on the front page of "the new york times." you get nervous, john. >> what does she have to do? >> keep campaigning. get out there talking to voters. keep talking to the media. key date in october. the vice president will make decision by then. a key date in october before the select committee on benghazi to give public testimony. jerry brown the governor of california said it quite right this past weekend. she can't just shoot and make this e-mail story go away. like a vampire. keeps coming back. got to put a stack in the heart.
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>> another aspect, john, people in the democratic party, including her really loyal supporters, believe that she has played into the hand of the clinton's enemies and party's enemies. that's what has shaken so many people. it looks to these fundraisers, party leaders as if the clintons have succumbed to their own worst instincts. there's so much talk. patty doyle knows an awful lot about what happens in the situation. >> patty, before i let you respond. a poll. a poll, shows donald trump is beating hillary clinton in florida in recent polling there. joe biden is beating donald trump. biden is doing better than hillary clinton in florida. starting to see voters responding to the polls say there is something going on here. >> i will relent, hillary clinton has not had a great summer. very rocky summer. but i just do not buy that, joe
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biden is think about running because of hillary's e-mail eve. think, look, the last sitting vice president that did not run in an open election was dick cheney. think goodness. joe biden has done a great job as vice president. incredible relationship congress on beau sidebeau -- on both sid. >> do you think -- >> i think the reason he has now taken a serious look has much less to do with hillary's e-mails than with the health of his son. >> an awkward cocktail party. next time they get together. thank you all so much. appreciate your time. and other big news today the market meltdown. why it might not be over yet. and what you can do about it. richard quest, thank goodness has all the answers.
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also, donald trump says he has a 14-point plan for dealing with illegal immigration. see what happens though when he is grilled on the specifics. univision and fusion anchor jorge ramos weighs in. >> the american heroes saved a lot of lives when they took down a terrorist gunman on the speeding train. details about their act of bravery and who this would be killer might have been connected to. milk has 8 grams of high-quality protein. which could be the difference between just living life. and milking it. start every day with the power of protein and milk life.
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bot so if you have a 401(k) or 529 plan or any piece of your financial future in the stock market you know the last few days have been rough. none more so than today. that was the sound in a strange way of relief. the dow jones industrials closed down nearly 600 points. but there was relief that it was only 600. the market began the day by losing 1,000 points in about ten minutes. and for a while even seasoned market watchers were at a loss to explain what was going on. fortunately, cnn's unflappable richard quest never at a loss for word. he joins us now. richard, what on earth happened? >> basically the moment when somebody called fire and everybody decided to head for the door. in the global interwoven markets
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we have got. what started in china and shanghai raced through india, france, frankfurt, london, and ended on the shores. >> china is one of the things focused on. >> the thing. the thing. that and the price of oil. the dubious nature of chinese economic statistics and whether china is basically going to grow even at the limited rate of 5 to 7% that they might. >> you say dubious nature of information coming out of china. donald trump said something look that today. he talked about china's slowing economy. he said this could get very messy. all caused by china. and asia is allowed to dictate the agenda. >> you have to take his comments with a pinch of salt. the man can't have it both watz. the same man who has made a fortune selling those expensive apartments that reminds us every five minutes to the chinese. which does he want?
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does he want a roaring chinese economy? that enables china to buy his property? or does he want a more realistic china economy which is what is taking place at the moment. i am not going to get into the politics. leave that to others better qualified. on the economics of mr. trump's argument, he is on thin ice. >> move from donald trump to me. for a second. a lot of people out there concerned about their 401(k)s. by a lot of people. i mean me. what do you do? >> nothing. not now it's too late. what do you want to do. sell into a market. >> i want it not to have gone down 4%. >> you made your mistake. live with it for the moment. john, seriously, the most foolish thing any body can do, particularly an amateur is to sell into a falling market. like trying to catch a knife that is falling. you are not going to win. you have to ride this one out. safe in the knowledge that u.s. economic fundamentals are strong. as we heard from the white house
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today. unemployment is low. inflation is low. inflation is moderate. the fed most certainly will not raise rates in september. and unfortunately you will have a bout of indigestion. >> because you yelled at me and called me an amateur. stick around. i want to bring in david gergen sees a lot through a political lens. a good piece on cnn.com, and identified the market plunge as one of three signs that the silly season in the campaign is over or ought to the be. and says time to get serious and by serious he means focusing more on just donald trump's antics and hillary clinton's e-mails and on policy. with us tonight, david gergen, donald trump supporter, jeffrey lord. david, you say this market plunge should put pressure on presidential candidates to engage in a more meaningful way. >> absolutely. we have had a summer frolick.
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there has been lots of entertainment as well as politics. donald trump has been at the center of that. now as americans face the fact that the world financial markets are in chaos. this economy may be more fragile. your 401(k) could been trouble. what americans want now is, leadership that is strong as well as steady. and steadying force. that's the kind of person they lack for. they will size up the candidates. donald trump exudes personal strength and has not shown himself as presidential. he is not a calming, steadying force for society. which is what people want in a president. hillary clinton on the other hand is a calm, steadying force. people are worried is he strong enough. does jeb bush have the fire. a testing time for presidents, for the candidate that goes far
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beyond the summer. we can have fun in the summer. but now we have got, you know we have got this fragility, chaos in the financial markets. the pope coming to talk about income inequality and how we have to deal with that, a central issue in the campaign. we have the iran agreement coming up. september is going to be a critical month for the, for the campaign to turn. from being a frolick to being serious. >> jeffrey, dave gergen says the time for fun is over. let me play you what donald trump today posted on instagram having to do with china. >> i have been telling everybody for a long time, china is taking our jobs, they're taking our money. be careful. they'll bring us down. you have to know what you are doing. we have nobody that has a clue. >> you have to know what you are doing. we have nobody that has a clue. that to me right now seems like his china policy, jeffrey. is there more to it? does he need to explain more how he would deal directly with china?
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>> i am sure he will. he has been talking about china for a long time. i interviewed him over a year ago. he said to me, in an article i wrote for "american spectator." it was inconceivable american leadership didn't understand we were heading for a fall with china and the country was going to have a problem. bingo here is the day. today turns out to be that moment. so he has been talking about this a long type. one of the things, john, you will see as this goes along. you have seen it a bit on immigration. presidential campaigns tend to mimic the office of the presidency itself. as they take off and gain steam, the candidate acquires policy papers. they acquire serious advisers in all the areas that the presidency itself has. i didn't have any dut oubt as t campaign goes along. you will see more from donald trump and detail. richard, you want in on this. >> go ahead. >> go ahead, david.
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>> one thing i would say, the numbers from the cnn poll the other week showed that 44% of the american people gave him the best ratings on the economy. and jeb bush was down here, like 30 points behind. so i think in terms of, the economy, the american people at least the respondents in the cnn poll do see him as a strong voice on the economy. >> the only thing i am going to say on this, if the crisis that david gergen rightly points out in the markets continue. who is going to make the phone call to chancellor merckle in germany? who is going to speak to the chinese president? who is going to ring david cameron in london? if there is a g-7 or g-8, g-20. which candidate is going to give the leadership. not the browbeating or the, bombast of that. it's fine to say in a campaign we are going to build a wall or china is about to take us all
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down. at some point that same person has to negotiate with them. >> david, you worked for a lot of presidents. how do these other countries look at these new president. we have had a lot of different types of personalities. ronald reagan came in, a lot thought he was some cowboy. other countries around the world they learned to deal with him. >> ronald reagan was wise enough to bring in some very seasoned players. like george schultz at the state department. made an enormous difference. did not pretend to dupe ao it a. he did not do it through bombast. when times got tough, reagan got calm. people want that in a a leader. donald trump knows a lot about the economy he has an edge, over everyone running, exempt for carly fiorina, very good to day by the way. he now has to convert this strength into something that people say, you know the country is going to be in safe hand, not just strong hands.
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that's what, and the world has to know that. i think richard quest is absolutely right about the notion, some body has to be in the oval office who can call chancellor merckle. understand this is not just about china. this is not about beating up china. this is emerging markets. countries around the world. there is fragility. we want someone who is steadying in that situation. central bankers do that. there is no one right now who is out there on the scene. donald trump can do that. this is going to be his test. >> got to prove it. >> great to have you here with us. thank you so much. next, donald trump specifics and his immigration plan. also a take from jorge ramos on donald trump and he things trump is the loudest voice of intolerance, hatred and division in the united states. strong word, hear how he defend them when 360 continues. rt that helps you feel more energized.
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side step question as but how to implement and pay for some of the 14 points including how he would locate, apprehend and then deport 11 million unauthorized immigrants. >> so if there is no idea how are you going to round them all up? where are you going to get the money? where are you going to get the forces? how are you going to do it? what are the specifics. >> george, it is management. first thing we have to secure the border. >> you keep declaring how you are going to do it but you don't say how? >> george, i am telling you it's called management. >> i understand you think it is a huge problem. i don't hear specifics on how you are going to do this. >> you will see my specifics. my specifics are simple. i am going to get great people who know what they're doing not political hacks who don't know what they're doing. >> let's get perspective from jorge ramos, who has for months
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tried to get an interview with donald trump. jorge, we heard from donald trump over the weekend pushed for specifics. you raised doubts about the plan and what is inside it. you say in your opinion it is all wrong. how so? >> exactly. and it is only empty promises. what he is trying to sell that you talk that he is trying to sell to the american public simply doesn't work. it's impossible. he cannot deport 11 million people from this country. can you imagine. let's take for a moment. let's imagine how is he going to deport 11 million people, by bus, plane? the army to do that? can you imagine the -- the human rights violations that that would create? and then the expense? we are talking according to an estimate, $12,500 per immigrant, is he willing to spend $137 billion to deport 11 million people from the country. that is one problem.
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he can't build a 1,900 million bored between mexico and the united states. it is absurd. it is an expense that is unnecessary. because almost 40% of all immigrants, come by plane and overstay their visas. he cannot deny citizenship to the children born here, for one simple reason. that's the constitution. the 14th amendment. so, everything that donald trump is trying to sell is false. it's not going to work. and it is impossible with the trump presidency it could be done. >> i want to ask you about his attitude and the why behind what he is saying? you said, i quote, no question, the loudest voice of intolerance, hatred and divisionen the united statdivisn in the united states. supporters hear that. listen. he is not spreading hate, he is just telling it like it is. so why are they wrong? >> not spreading hate. when you say that immigrants
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from mexico are criminals and rapists, isn't that spreading hate? when you called, u.s. citizens, anchor babies, is that not spreading hate? when you called, 11 million people in this country illegals and no human being is illegal, isn't that spreading hate? that's what ispanic community. this is not politics for us. this is personal. when he is talking about immigrants. he is talking about me. he is talking half of the latino population in the country, 18 years or older, born in another country. so, the things that he considers just blunt talk, it is clearly offensive and it having an immediate political impact. 75% of latinos, 75% have a negative image of mr. donald trump. is he going to win the white house? it is impossible for him to when
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the white house without the hispanic vote. right now. nationwide he doesn't have it. >> trump says we won't be talking about this at awe. we won't be talking about immigration at this stage of the election if not for him. is there any truth to that. he has put the discussion at the forefront? >> i agree with you completely. the only positive thing about what mr. donald trump has been saying is that he brought immigration to the forefront of the 2016 campaign. this is something that many latino leaders wanted to see. and it is happening. in the next election, about 60 million latinos will go to the polls. the majority of them support immigration reform with a path to citizenship. 60 million latinos could be fined the next election, past election, 60 million latinos could define the next election. the majority of them do not agree with mr. donald trump. we'll talk in a year from now.
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next summer. and believe me by then, both parties, will be pleading for latino votes. clearly those, those who have felt offended by mr. donald trump, will remember what he has the said. also, let's remember that donald trump is's creation of the republican party. the same ideas that other republicans have espoused in the past, but only that he expresses them with more violence and in an extreme way. >> jorg eche, great to have you. appreciate your time. >> thank you, john. >> jeb bush groping for a clear message on immigration and grappling publicly with donald trump. he spoke about gainst mr. trump's 14 point plan. >> mr. trump's plans are not, not grounded in conservative principle. it would cost hundred of billions. it is not realistic. it won't be implemented. we need border security to deal with getting this country back on track. i am not going to get into the issues of what he said and i said. the simple fact is, that his
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proposal is unrealistic, it will cost hundred of billions of dollars, it will violate people's civil liberties, it will create friction with our third largest trading partner that's not necessary. i think he is wrong about this. >> former governor bush made the remarks in texas where cnn's reporter joins us. the former governor in south texas today. he didn't actually visit the border, correct? >> that was one of the main questions. the former governor speaking at the mexican restaurant over my shoulder instead of making the 6-mile drive to the border. some of his aide and campaign officials saying the reason for that, the former governor has seen the border and in their word, is very well aware of what happens there. i have to tell you, we did notice a different jeb bush. full of this, sort of new energy. even feisty at times. he was using that new tone to take direct, direct jabs at his main opponent, donald trump.
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criticizing his immigration plan. as to build a massive wall and to deport the estimated 11 million undocumented people in the country. really not affordable. not realistic. and simply not conservative enough. >> interesting. his entire team has been more aggressive over the last several days when it comes to donald trump. i understand the governor did address the use of his controversial term anchor baby. what did he say? >> yeah, right. he brought the controversy with him, earlier today. perhaps some of his feistier moment when reporters asked about that.clarity, first time he broke this down. he said he was manlinly referri to the practice of bringing pregnant women from other countries, into the united states with sole intention of having their baby in the u.s. to become u.s. citizens. he called that practice fraudulent. i press him. if he would use the highly controversial term, anchor baby. he did not actually answer
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specifically. he simply referred to that once again fraudulent. >> thank you so much. just ahead for us, what it took for five brave passengers to stop the terror attack on a french train. how it all unfolded minute by minute as the train sped toward paris. >> plus, something we have never shown you before. inside the tunnel two killers used to break out of a maximum security prison. how they inched their way underground to freedom. lift the head up a little bit, and it feels like i'm just cradled. i love the adjustable bed because i love it when i'm watching tv. and there you have it. (vo) and now through september 13th save hundreds on select tempur-pedic mattresses and adjustable bases. change your sleep. change your life. change to tempur-pedic.
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new information tonight about the suspect in the french train attack. u.s. law enforcement tell cnn the gunman could have easily flown to the united states from europe because he wasn't on american authorities' radar even though european authorities knew about his possible links to terrorist networks and possible travel to syria. they did not share that information with u.s. officials. a sobering reminder of the security cracks that bad guys can slip through. this time the bad guy is in custody because five passengers on that train stepped up to stop him.
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four americans and a british citizen. in paris, four of them received france's highest recognition, legion of honor, the fifth hero will receive the medal after he recovered to. day we heard about quick thinking that saved lives. >> saw that he was squirting blood out of the left side of his neck and i was going to use my shirt at first. realized that wouldn't have worked. so i just stuck two of my fingers in the hole, down what i thought to be the artery. pushed down and the bleeding stopped. i said thank god. and held that position until the paramedics got there. >> at the press conference we heard how the hero stopped the attack before more people were hurt. here's martin savage with how it all unfolded. >> reporter: the high-speed french train leaves amsterdam at 3:15 in the afternoon for what should be a three-hour trip to paris. on board, three american friend, enjoying a european vacation together. two hours later the train makes a stop in brussels where alleged
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gunman, ayoub al khazzani, a moroccan native gets on board. moments later, a shirtless al khazzani emerges in first-class. he makes his way back to car 12 where he is confronted by mark moogalian, an american from north carolinian. moogalian, wrestling the rifle away. but al khazzani shoots him in the neck with a pistol and grabs the rifle back. it's that gunshot that alerts the three american friends. it's 5:50 p.m. >> the gunshot was the first noise i heard. and then i was followed by breaking glass. so the gunshot was one of the fir f first thing that came to our attention. didn't know it was a gunshot. it was behind me. i had no idea where he was aiming or intended to do. >> reporter: 22-year-old national guardman, alek
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skarlatos is the first to react. shouting get him. his buddy, 23-year-old, spencer stone, martial arts enthusiast in the air force leads the charge towards the suspect. >> ran down, tackled him. we hit the ground. alek came up. grabbed the gun out of his hand. while i put him in a chokehold. seemed like he just kept pulling more weapons left and right. pulled out a handgun. alek took that. took out a box cutter. started jabbing at me with that. we let go. all three of us, started punching him in the middle of us. and then i was able to grab him again. and choke him unconscious while alek was hitting him in the head with the pistol or rifle. i can't really remember. >> reporter: stone is severely slashed by a box cutter nearly losing his thumb and suffering injuries to his neck and head. >> the guy had a lot of ammo. his intentions were pretty clear. >> reporter: that's when the third american, anthony sadler
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helps tie the suspect up, aided by chris norman. despite his injuries, stone begins rendering first aid to moogalian, bleeding badly from his neck. sadler uses the phone to capture the chaotic moments after the violent struggle. then sadler goes car to car, spreading news to terrified passengers the danger is over. ten minutes after the first shot the train is diverted off the main line and rerouted to the town of arras, 115 miles north of paris. the gunman is taken into police custody. the pictures show what appear to be additional magazines suggesting that the attacker planned to reload numerous times. the injured and wounded are taken to area hospitals. all indications are the quick thinking americans aided by others, for them what could have been a massacre on a train, moving at close to 200 miles per hour. >> an amazing story of heroism. martin savage from paris. what are we learning about the
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gunman and whatever ties to terrorism he may or may not have. >> al khazzani the man is in question here. according to his attorney which he now has. he claims that he has no afill ya -- no affiliation to any terrorist organization or religious organization. however, cnn has found very different information this from european investigators. they say they're very concerned about a trip that al khazzani allegedly took in may which he traveled to turkey. and the concern is whether or not he may have had meetings with either isis sympathizers or isis planners. that somehow as a result of that meeting, the attack on friday took place. meanwhile, tomorrow, al khazzani is expected to be formally charged. currently held at french intelligence headquarters tonight. >> martin, the american heroes who helped stop this attack, they were in europe as part of a long vacation. what's next for them? >> well, you have to really
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imagine. you can actually sort of tell when you look at their clothing these were clearly men who did not in any way anticipate becoming heroes and standing there at the presidential palace next to the french president. that aside. what's next is that the two servicemen, headed to germany because of stone's injuries because of the box cut r witer need medical care. going to a u.s. facility for treatment. >> not a vacation they expected one they will never forget. martin savage. thank you for joining us. >> inside the tunnel that two convicts used to escape from a maximum security prison in upstate new york. and up close and personal look at their elaborate escape. that's next.
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for the first time getting a close look inside the tunnel two convicted killers used in their elaborate escape from a prison earlier this summer. david sweat back behind bars. his breakout partner, richard matt was shot and killed. they escaped from clinton correctional facility in june. now we are seeing how they did it. up close. randi kaye reports.
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>> reporter: two state investigators armed with supplies and two go-pro cameras showing us just how inmates david sweat and richard matt shimmied and snaked their way to freedom. the video given to us by an official source is about 20 minutes long. as long as it takes for the investigators to wind their way through the belly of clinton correctional facility. just like the escapees did back in june. we're not showing the investigators' faces but their point of view is eye opening. they begin at the very spot where matt and sweat cut holes in their cells. then follow the same six-story high catwalk before jumping down to take on an amazing maze of pipes and the prison tunnel system. >> reporter: about halfway
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through the tape -- our first glimpse of the hole that take them from one prison building to the next. investigators squeeze themselves through it to reach the other side. they push forward. retracing the prisoners' steps and just look them, dealing with unbearable heat. at 14 minutes they're underneath the asphalt yard between buildings. >> reporter: it is a maze that even these investigators have trouble mastering. there is piping hot steam. at times, it's hard to breathe. >> we're basically southbound from that tunnel. >> reporter: about 17 minutes in, they reach the now legendary steam pipe used by the escapees. this is where it gets tricky.
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sweat had told investigators he spent nearly a month cutting holes in the steam pipe. all part of his secret nightly trips, spent matching out their elaborate escape. >> it is not easy. >> then the homestretch. passing one chained up manhole cover and making their way to the next one. the very same manhole richard matt and david sweat emerged from. kicking off a three-week manhunt. >> oh, my goodness. all right. randi kaye joins me now. randi, you lived this story. you were up there for weeks and weeks and weeks. now that we have seen the video of this remarkable video of the path they took. i am wondering what strikes you?
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>> well i think how intricate it was down there. for so long we were there. they were telling us how they made their way through. now i understand why david sweat went down there for months. practicing. dauz th doing the practice runs. when the lights went out at night. he would go down into the bowels of the prison. map it up. there is no signage down there. no way they would possibly know how to go. a good thing that he practiced. >> what a mess it is down there? 20 minutes it took the investigators. >> 20 minutes from the time they left the cell to the time they got to the manhole. few extra minutes to cut through the chain to get out. >> thank you so much. amazing. sweeping changes to the justice system in ferguson, missouri. stay with us. visibility into your business, it can quickly become the only thing you think about. that's where at&t can help. at&t's innovative solutions connect machines and people... to keep your internet of things in-sync, in real-time.
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