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one item, all arrest warrants issued before december 31st, 2014, will be withdrawn. >> reports that isis has destroyed more antiquities in syria, 2,000-year-old tellable in palmyra. >> horrifying crash in an air show in southeast england, 11 people likely died. the pilot survived, badly hurt and is a medically induced coma. >> amara, thank you so much. cnn tonight with don lemon starts now. >> this is cnn breaking news. >> 9:00 p.m. on the east coast. 9:00 a.m. in shanghai. the market is about to open. the world is holding its breath. is it the start of a brutal day on the street. in tokyo, the nikkei already down, nearly 4%. this is cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. we have the latest on the breaking news from the asian markets and what it will mean
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for all of you. plus one candidate could be poised to up-end the race for the white house. look at the live pictures of the white house now. it's not donald trump. will the veep jump into the race? >> what is hillary clinton thinking about all this right now? >> plus, black lives matter. the woman who says this -- >> a little girl is dead. you say black lives matter. her life mattered. her dreams mattered. her future mattered. it mattered. >> we'll speak to this woman. her video is going viral. begin with the market meltdown. joining me is mr. richard quest, host of "quest means business" cnn's international business correspondent as well. richard, brutal day. lots of jittery nerves?
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what had investors scared? >> china. whether the chinese situation. we have known it has been dodgy. but is it much worse than we thought. is china's growth that much worse. it was a classic case. absolutely classic. where it only took one person to shout "fire." and everybody headed for the door. >> was it justified? was this a correction needed? i heard some people saying the market needed to correct. >> you have two markets. on the u.s. market did need a correction. four since a good 10% sustained correction. we are not just talking of a dip and up. the market comes down. regroups. and then goes back up again. this isn't what we have got at the moment. what he have got is turbulence. now, you look at other countries, other markets. tha then it is much more serious. there are emerging markets that are being clobbered at the moment. by lower oil prices. by the china slowdown.
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and by currencies. >> the little ticker up during the day. wish we had it up for asian markets. so tell us about this. what's happening now in asia? >> shanghai opened. tokyo is opened. there is the nikkei. down 481 points. loss of 3.7, 4%. thank you. that's the nikkei. at the moment. the hang seng opens shortly. what is interesting though, is australia. t australia is not down as much. what you are seeing is in tokyo, is knee-jerk reaction from new york. let's wait and see for the next few hours, shanghai into europe. this might be where the cycle breaks. >> is everyone watching this, we are looking at this. is that what everyone tuned into the markets watching the nikkei. >> going to be more interested when shanghai kicks in. that will be the driving force. and they're going to want to see what the chinese are saying about all of this. >> richard quest.
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stick around. thank you very much. we will follow this as well. markets opening in asia. keep you posted. turn to the latest, the other political news. a hot news question is -- in politics tonight -- is it time to start talking about joe-mentum. will joe biden run for the white house? joining me senior washington correspondent, mr. joe johns, good evening to you. all eyes on the vice president, joe biden, will he? won't he jump into the presidential race? president obama is now weighing in. >> that's right, don. president obama weighing in. essentially giving joe biden the green light if he chooses to run according to our jeff zeleny. a blessing from the white house. it isn't a requirement. and it came in two pafrts rts t. after lunch with the president/vice president at the white house. then the press secretary, giving joe biden high praise. quoting the president as saying, that putting biden on the national ticket was the best decision the president's made in politics. there was more today to add to
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the buzz. when vice president met this evening with former white house communications director anita dunn, former white house counsel, bob bower, anita dunn's husband and former delaware senator ted kaufman, a long-time biden adviser. a lot of talk today. as joe biden tries to explore his options. >> lot of meetings if it sound like as well. what are the next steps for the vice president? is he planning, what is he planning over the next couple weeks? >> more meetings for sure. john king reporting that biden is starting to expand the schedule of meetings he has been having. that will include meetings with top fundraisers and donors to try to come to some conclusions. people i have talked to who have been part of biden world for years. say the fund-raising piece is challenging for biden in the past. he hasn't always enjoyed it. cnn reporting that biden is leaning in the direction of running as opposed to not running. his office says no decision has been made in any speculation to
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the contrary is false, don. >> still, you know the question is. what is the campaign saying about all of the speculation, joe? >> the camp is choosing word. being complimentary. saying biden is very popular in the democratic party. in washington as we know. the harsher critique comes from people in biden's sshg circle. oddly enough. love him. know how tough this can be. how hard it is to get the money it takes especially this late. so from those quarters there is still skepticism. >> joe johns, appreciate it, sir. thank you, very much. >> bring in michael feldman, former adviser to vice president al gore. and, maria cardona is here. and buck sexton, editor for "the blaze" and rick wilson. a very distinguished panel. start with you, maria. joe biden has the president's
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blessing. is this late in the game? does he have a path to victory here? if he jumps into this? >> it is absolutely late in the game, don. i think that is exactly the kind of question that he is pondering right now. look, i think at the end of the day, the vice president has to think about two things. i think this is human nature at this point. if there is something we have known about joe biden, he really does want to be president. he tried it twice before. serving as vice president i think has been one of the highlights of his career. he has been amazing. done a fantastic job at it. i think what he need to -- to be going through, and i think what we all will be going through is whether at the end of his life, would he regret not doing this even if there isn't a clear path. even if people around him are saying, look, sure you could get in. you might not win. it might be really tough. >> maria. >> might ruin your legacy. whatever it is. that's, that is i think the cal
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cue lags th culation -- calculation he would make. >> and his late son wanted him to run as well? >> that is clearly weighing on him as well. in terms of looking at this from a very emotional human perspective. >> mr. sexton, you think that biden jumping in the race could be ben fseficial to hillary clinton? how is that? >> a panning move fr ipanic mov democrats. hillary's numbers are bad among those she need to win the election. there is a lot of traction that's been received from the e-mailer use and other thing that have come up with her. she know it that lookable. she is not taking interviews. not speaking to the press. if biden gets in, in the short term. it means essentially there is somebody else for the press to pay attention to. some body to take heat off hillarien the short term. longer term play is to have somebody there as a plan b for worst case scenario if in fact, him ear has real problems from
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the e-mails, classification side or on the clinton foundation business side. they need somebody standing there to run. what's the purpose of biden running. can't run to the left of bernie sanders. a socialist. biden is not going to run as a communist. why would he get into the race. what would he offer? that is not there? what he offers is not hillary. right now good for the democrats. the focus on hillary has shown she know it a strong candidate despite the massive machinery. >> joe biden jump in. last second. saves the democratic party. what many people are thinking. mr. mike feldman. my colleague broke the meeting with elizabeth warren, now biden, meeting with trusted advisers, what's his fashgs canfashgs -- what's his face, reporting that tonight. john king. sorry. jeff zeleny and john king are reporting this. how do you read all this?
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>> it goes with the time frame. late in the game. i think all the things you are seeing vice president biden do right now. talking to donor. talking to influential democrats. sounding out the party. and sending signals he is leaning toward running. all of those things are preparing for a run. that's fundamentally different than making a decision to get into the race. i don't think joe biden is doing this to be a spoiler or sparring partner for secretary clinton. if he get into the race. he sees a path to the nomination to the presidency. he's been through this before. he is a sitting vice president. he has earned the right to kid this run. and if he does it. he is going to do it because he sees a path not just. >> do you see a path for him? >> well, i think it is too early to tell. not on the otherened of t end o conversations with donors or elizabeth warren or others? it is a unique cycle. in any other cycle has a
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nonincumbent, president or vice president been this far aheaden all of the met rickrics. for a sitting vice president to be sitting on the sidelines right now is pretty unusual. >> done, he tried before. he didn't move the needle. best thing you could say for the 2008 campaign is his unfavorables were pretty low. people didn't know who he was. i mean there was no chance. last time. so we have already been here before. the idea that he would be a great candidate on the national stage. >> things change. that was then. this is now. i mean, and -- people seem to trust him at least, from the polls. more than they do hillary clinton. rick, we have saved the best for last. that's what you would say. if joe biden decide to jump into this race. and it sound like he is close. what would this mean to the gop ticket and race for the white house? honestly in some ways, hillary clinton is such a known quantity. we have seen the negatives
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around hillary not only e-mail server, overall numbers, honest, trust worthy, fav, unfav, declining for her. joe biden although we joke, he is the clown prince. all these other things. joe biden is affable, friendly, not a threatening, scary, democratic figure. you would probably have to reset a little on how you were calibrating against the democratic nominee if joe biden got in the race. and i think today, it is still speculative. the white house didn't do hillary clinton any favors today. they seem to be opening, some of the doors. >> there is no other thing the president could have done. and i have to answer, i don't know what numbers. >> the numbers where hillary clinton is right now. any presidential candidate would kill for the numbers that she has right now. and her formidable --
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[ all talking at once ] >> there is only so much spin, don. there is only so much spin we can take. >> look at the numbers. look at the numbers. >> you guys are going to stand by. when we come right back, we are going to talk about the bush trump border war. i want to know what you think about this. and who is winning this. plus a leading conservative weighs in on the possible biden run. a leading conservative, glenn beck, tells me what he thinks. >> have you seen who you got running? i mean -- really? joe biden is, that is a serious consideration? go see. go look through their windows so you can understand their views.
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go find out just how kind the hes and shes of this mankind are.
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immigration plan calling it "catastrophic" back with me, my guests. what should i call you -- my unruly panel? rick, because you are not talking a lot. can't believes you are letting these people talk all over you. i will ask you the first question. take of a look at jeb bush earlier today, at the border, saying donald trump need to be held accountable for his views. here he is. >> mr. trump's plans are not, not grounded in conservative principles. it would cost hundred of billions of dollars. it is not realistic. it will not be implemented. we need border security to be able to deal with getting this country back on track. so, i'm not going to get into the -- issues of what he said, i said. the simple fact is, that his proposal is unrealistic, it will cost hundreds of billions of dollars. it will violate people's civil liberties. it will create friction with the third largest trading partner that is not necessary. i think he is wrong about this. >> so, rick, we heard donald
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trump go after jeb bush saying he has no energy, people at his rallies are falling asleep, now you are seeing this, i mean this is biting back for jeb bush. did someone finally get in there and say, fight back. gett ein the game. is this a strategy he need. >> job bush does have to fight back, get in the game. i've will say this about jeb. this was not a message that is going to work with the trump audience. because they believe that they really believe that donald trump is going to deport 11 million to 30 million people. they really believe he is going to build a wall made of solid steel coated with laser turrets running the length of the border. jeb may be correct about the details. no one in donald trump's sshgci, these people have had the kool-aid. they believe anything that comes out of trump's mouth. if he told them tomorrow, we will kill and eat everybody that crosses the border, yea, barbecue. it may not be realistic.
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>> buck, mike, don't encourage him. i don't know where he comes up with this stuff. >> jeb talking policy. trump is talking emotion. right now with a lot of the republican, the fractioned republican base with trump. they're not susceptible to fact. they're not going to listen to an are gumentgument about the d. >> i agree with rick. i don't think that's the audience jeb bush is playing to. he is looking at the general election. >> i agree with you on that point. he has gone in the past few days from trying to ignore donald trump to engaging him. i actually think that is a smart strategy. we are not, tonight not talking about the rest of the field. we are talking trump vs. bush. bush has one eye on the general electorate. pretty smart. >> there you go, michael. that is smart. now in the game. now talking about him. listen, rick, i have to say, making a quip, and the barbecue thing, isn't that the passion and enthusiasm, you want people
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to support you. if you say i have a bridge to sell you, how much? isn't that what you want? don't you want that? >> eventually you have to ask yourself if donald trump can continue to their actuate a fra of the electorate. the fraction now is 8% to 9%. you have got to ask yourself at some point. where are the tradeoffs? where are the people you are not going to got to? >> aren't those the people who go to the polls because they're, they're so upset? >> actually a lot of these people from, a lot of these people are -- are probably, and there is a lot of numbers starting to come in on this. not as high propensity voters as north mall p normal republicans who go out in the snow in iowa or slog through the snow in new hampshire rank-and-file republicans. >> the quick one for maria. >> jeb has a big problem.
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one of the gop candidates speaks out of both side on the immigration issue. anchor baby last week. this week, policy in nuanced terms. when he talks comprehensive immigration terms, the terms he uses. and hillary clinton uses. all of the conservative base is amnesty. a good reason for that because he doesn't want to go forward with any enforcement mechanisms. doesn't really want to secure the border. interior enforcement. of what the conversation is within the gop there are some who want to pretend they will do enforcement. they will actually go forth with the laws as written. or add to the laws. there are others who really want not a father way, a conveyor belt to citizenship. >> i have to move on. you mentioned hillary. this is for you. hillary clinton. put out a new attack ad in response to jeb's trip to the border. >> i will imed me yacm immediat president obama's illegal executive order on immigration. >> would you appeal obama's
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amnesty? >> yes. >> eligible for citizenship? >> legal status. >> le gi used the word anchor b. >> so you didn't have these anchor babies as they're described coming into the country. >> do you regret using the term anchor baby on the radio? >> no i don't regret you. >> don't let the circus distract you. most of the other candidates are just trump without the pizzazz or the hair. >> so, ms. cardona, days after bush put out a video attacking trump's plan as catastrophic. bush trying to show how different they are. hillary links the two together. what's your take? >> very smart right now. look, we have seen here in this panel the huge challenge for the republican party. moving from a primary into being in an actual, actual electable position for the general election. that its you cap nnnot get to t
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white house without 40% of the hiss panic vo hispanic vote. the more hillary clinton and democrats tie the crazy things that donald trump has said, which is absolutely alien all itted t itted -- alienated the hiss panning community. in 80% unfavorables. the more he is tied with the republican party, easy to do, he is the standard bearer. the harder it will be for who ever the nominee is, even if it is bush to walk that back in the general election with the latino community. >> mike, there is no doubt campaigns are getting personal. trump didn't have any official campaign events. he did have time to release this instagram video. here it is. >> i have been telling everybody for a long time. china is taking our jobs, they're taking our money. be carful. they've will bring us nodown. you have to know what we are doing. we have nobody that has a clue. >> mike, going after the bush family name. is this the way this race is headed? >> sure. what you see there is another
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opportunistic tactic, very smart on behalf of donald trump. crisis in the markets remind people that you are, your economic foundation of your candidacy and try to ride the wave of concern and discontent. he has ben doing that quite effectively. i ex-pekt >> next time. speak with more candor and get more passionate on the show. thank you. see you soon. appreciate it. with wall street tanking is it time to take your money out of the market? ahead. advice from money man, dave ramsey. >> troopers mourn a colleague who was ambushed by a driver. m? oh yeah. i can almost taste it now. tastes like victory. and pepperoni... dso at gnc, why do we do it?st quality nutrition isn't easy, why do we work to deliver clinically studied products to fill the world's nutrition gaps? why do we insist on the most
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tonight state troopers in louisiana mourning a colleague who was shot to death allegedly by a driver as the trooper was trying to help. and we are joined now with a horrible story, rosa, the suspect is now linked to another killing. tell us the latest. >>- you are right. hearts are heavy in louisiana for the state trooper. don, hear this. this story is really unfolding like a murder mystery. look you mentioned this suspect is now linked to another killing. here's what police tell us. they say that this man nearby went missing. and his co-workers asked police
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to do a welfare check. lo and behold the man is found dead inside his house. you are probably wondering how are these two cases connected. well hear this -- that person, that individual that was found dead inside his house is actually the registered owner of the vehicle that the suspect, 54-year-old kevin daigle drove into a ditch the day he allegedly shot and killed the state trooper. here's what we know from authorities about that particular case. it is sunday. there are calls about a vehicle driving recklessly in the parish. the and the trooper, steven vincent is out and about doing his job. he notices that there is a vehicle in a ditch. it fits the description. he goes out to see what's going on. and this is where investigators say the situation escalated. authorities tell us that, that suspect, 54-year-old kevin
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daigle pulls out a shotgun, shoots that trooper in the head. now there are people nearby and good samaritans actually go to his rescue. and they subdue the suspect right there on the scene. and, and actually handcuff him with the trooper's handcuffs. now, of course, he is now charged with first degree murder. and don, we hear from authorities that those charges could grow as they continue to investigate this other killing inside this house. still very early in that investigation. so we, of course, are waiting for more details from investigators. as for the trooper's family, don, he's survived by his wife, and a 9-year-old son. >> rosa flores. thank you. the governor of louisiana, bobby jindal, ordering flags flown at half staff until friday for the death of trooper vincent. we will keep following this. and we will talk more. colonel mike edmondson,
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superintendent of louisiana state police. thank you for joining us. wish we could have spoken under better circumstances. >> thank you, don. thank you for having me on the program. i just listened to rosa. she was spot-on with her reporting. that's exactly what transpired. and just the last 24 hours have just been unnerving, tragedy. you took a there mall snormal s afternoon and turned it extraordinary. the family, senior trooper, senior vincent. 44. wife katherine, son, ethan, 9 years old. his son just wanted to talk to his dad. and talking to katherine there is no word i could give her. she just wanted steven to weak up. that's who she wanted to talk to hip. tragedy. in my 35 years as a state trooper to watch that video and, to see what transpired, transpired right in front of us. it was a horrible, horrible incident. and i watched it on tape. >> i know how much this is
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touching people. colonel, my hometown. my mom's name is katherine. i can't imagine. >> portal allen. >> yes. you reviewed the video from the scene. what did the video show? >> well, if steven was anything, he epitomized what louisiana state troopers is all about. this badge, it is a privilege. not a right to wear it. i don't have a right to wear it. he wore it proudly for 13 years. 10 years as lake charles police officer. heave was doing everything he was supposed to do. he is out looking for a suspected drunk driver. encounters this truck that has gone off into the ditch. he is taushgi ingtalking to him. sishgs i -- sir, i am here to help you. step out of the truck. call to get the wrecker out of the ditch. take you some where. trying to get him to come out. what police officers do, we
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de-escalate the situation. talk with a person. talk with them. that's how we teach our state troopers. trying to get him out. when he went up to the door. the guy pushed it open. out came out a sawed-off shotgun. he sawed-off the barrel. not to kill bird. wasn't to scare people. this was to hurt someone and to kill someone. and that's certainly what happened as we watched it unfold in front of us. thank god for the samaritans. i talked to every one of them. they are heroes. >> tell us what they did. >> the gentleman in a jeep. we see on the tape one truck pass by as we hear daigle talking to my trooper on the ground. the truck goes by. he goes down the road. he encounters a jeep. he tells the guy in the jeep. the guy ein the jeep. he didn't think. he took off down the road. saw my trooper lying on the ground. and he jumped out. grabbed the guy.
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wrestled him to the ground. actually took the trooper's handcuffs and handcuffed him along with the other guys that were helping him at that point. total disregard for his own safety. he did what very few people would do. he got on the radio. hear him on the radio saying. please get somebody here. you have a trooper on the ground. i don't know what condition he is in. he's in bad, bad shape. and then he renders first aid. i mean, these individuals are just incredible heroes. i got to hug him today. and i got to tell him how much i appreciate him doing that. but you know, pushing back to i took my troopers, around the bedside of steven vincent as they were disconnecting him. we talked to him. parade with him. we talked what we encounter every day as police officers the i told him we honor steven with our actions. that's what we do. we honor him as we leave the room. we go back to work. we do our business. we are public servants.
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and we're about public safety. and his wife was there with us. and -- >> yeah -- >> something that takes us, a horrible, horrible place. and police officers around the country. that's what they do. we make a traffic stop. we don't know who we are talking to. we don't know what they have been through, where they have gone, what has happened in their lives. we are just stopping them for a traffic stop. we try to keep it from escalating. we talk to them. we teach them, you know, we are stopping you for, for running a red light. for speeding. we tell them why. and then we have a conversation with them. and i think that's what's got to take place across the country. we have got to have candid, open conversations. as police officers we are frying to do our job. we are trying to learn something about you. we want you to learn something about us. that's where it has got to stop. this was a tragedy. i mean, steven had a vision.
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he had a future. that future was not to die as he did so tragically. we can't forget that. i told his wife. i told his son ethan. we are not going to forget your dad. not let his death be in vain. very much of a tragedy. and then to learn, to learn that, you know -- two people died today. so. very, very sad. >> we want you to give our condolences to the family, we are thinking about them. when i come home soon, i would love to meet them. thank you, colonel. appreciate you joining us here on cnn. >> to would look to do it. thank you for your time. god bless. we ask the world to put their arms around the troopers, put their arms around the police officers thank them for the job they do. >> when we come right back, black lives matter. activists speaking out on the campaign trail. but not everybody is on board with this. i am going to talk to a st. louis grandmother who took on the protesters in a individually rant that is going viral. ome sof
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watch this segment. promise you will find it interesting. black lives matter heard across the country. on the campaign trail. outrage over the case of a young black man who was killed by two white st. louis police officers. police say he pointed a gun at
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them. before they fired. his family disputes that. but where is the outrage over another death, the death of jamila boldin, killed by a stray bullet in her home as she did her home work. at least one woman is very angry. i want you to listen to this video from an african-american grandmother peggy hubbard. >> who do you think they protested for? the thug, the criminal. because they're hollering police brutality are you [ bleep ] kidding me. police brutality. how about black brutality? you black people, my black people, you are the [ bleep ] most violent [ bleep ] i have ever seen in my life. you are shooting at the police. police drops your ass, oh, poor, so and so, he died due to police brutality, 127 homicide later, y'all want to holler police brutality.
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black people, you're [ bleep ] joke. you're tearing up communities over thugs and criminals. you think the police are out here for fun. out here for games? they're not going to tuck you in. they're not going to give you a cookie and sing you a lullaby and tuck you in. no they're going to pop a cap in your ass. you shoot at them. they're going to shoot at you. >> peggy hubbard. joins me now. how are you? >> i'm good, don. thank you for having me. >> you were mad? >> yeah, yeah. in the words of tyler perry i was ready to take off my earrings. >> why? >> jamila boldin, 9 years old. lost her live in her own home doing her home work. second, third day of school. looking forward to her future. and she's killed by a drive-by
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shooting and it was the wrong house. it should have never happened to anybody and it happened to her, a child. >> because there were no protests for her? >> and that set me off. >> because there were no protests for her and little news coverage you said in the area? >> very little. my husband and i were sitting on the couch watching television. i didn't even know about jamila's death, until the next day. we were sitting on the couch, watching television. and they break in to normal broadcasting because there is a full-blown riot in, downtown, not downtown, mid town st. louis in the neighborhood i grew up in the walnut park, wells-goodfellow, that area. and the police executed a search warrant. suspects are in the house. they're running from the police. shooting at the police. and the police shot one of the suspects and he was killed.
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and from what we understand he had a gun. and it was a stolen weapon. jamila died the day before. i didn't hear anything on it on the news. and i'm an avid news watcher. nothing was reported. it was just a blip. this guy dies, this guy dies, and all of a sudden there is a full-blown riot in the neighborhood i grew up in. and there is nothing for her. and we're hollering black lives matter. he had his chance to matter. he chose his path. he chose his destiny. jamila never got her destiny. she never got her promises. her, her life mattered. her dreams mattered. her vision mattered. she could have been the next secretary of state, she could have been the next attorney general, she never got a chance. >> where was the outrage over her? you do acknowledge there is police brutality, but you say it
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pales in compareston to black on black murder, you believe police reform is also necessary though? >> yes, i do. i believe police reform is necessary. don, there is a lot of bad cops out there. granted they are. there are a lot of bad cops out there. that should not wear the badge. that make all the other police officers look bad. they do. but you have a lot of good cops out there. we lost a cop in louisiana. and i am so sorry for that family's loss. because i too am married to a cop. so i know firsthand. the fear. police officers are there to do a job. their job is to serve and protect, but their job is not serve, protect and die. and if they hesitate and a lot of these cops here in st. louis city, they hesitate. they're afraid if they make one misstep, their careers are over and they're going to be the next darren wilson.
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and we have got, this has got to stop. this is a nationwide, this is not a st. louis city problem. this is a nationwide problem from new york to l.a. this is a problem. >> peggy, i want to ask you because people are, you have a lot of people on your side. i have read a lot about you this weekend. a lot of people on your side. a lot of people not on your side. you have critics calling you everything from but a child of god, a white man's bed wench, what do you say to them? >> bite me. i'm not afraid to speak my mind. if they want to say that, knock yourself out. freedom of speech. but the truth hurts. and they know, deep down inside, they know i am telling the truth. they know i am speaking the word. and the word is we are wrong.
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right now we are dead wrong. they can call me whatever they want. i can take it. i'm tough. my grandmother raised me well. so, call me if you will. call me all the names you want. whatever is going to make you feel bedder. b -- feel better. i am not going to stop. i am going to keep speaking for jamila. she deserves that, her say. i am going to fight for her. make sure nobody forgets her. >> remember in the riots. the mom found her son and beat him right there on the street. >> that was my mother. >> that was mine too. so, hey, say what you want. say my mom was an abuser, but here i am. i am doing well. a lot of people are doing well who had moms like that. but what i have to ask you, did you have an issue with your own family? did you turn in your own son because he wasn't doing right? >> yes, we did. yes, we did. don, it was the hardest thing i ever had to do. let me clarify something.
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my husband had four children. i had two from a previous marriage. he had four. i raised his children the best we could. he took mine. i took his. now, yes, i call him my son, but he is tech nick nically my step. i had him for so long. i tried to do everything i could for him. i saw the signs. i saw the warnings. i saw what he was becoming. how can his father go out and serve and protect and keep people safe when i have a child that is hurting people? i can't have that. it was, it was a thing about responsibility and accountability. and that's what i was raised and taught on. so when i saw that he was going down that road and i saw what he did i didn't have a choice. it's my responsibility to make sure my child, that i helped
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raise, if he has done wrong, i'm going to hold him to that accountability. and that's what we don't have today. we are not holding our children accountable for their actions. >> i have got to ask you this -- because you are a marine. you served your country. >> navy, navy. >> navy. sorry. navy. >> navy. >> you served your country well. i want to stalk to ytalk to you privilege. do you think whites have privilege over blacks? >> no. are you kidding? there is no such thing as white privilege. don, i have a friend who is right now -- can't pay the house note. car got repoed. lights got shut off. water got shut off. can't buy food for their children. and they're white. so if there is white privilege, and they're telling me i am no longer black, that i am white
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now. sign me up for low-interest loan and get me a credit card. because i'm ready to shop. >> peggy hubbard. thank you. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back. .
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rant about black lives matter. it was on the internet. and then you heard her interview. joining me to talk about that,
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cnn political commentator mark lamont, hill. mark, what do you think? >> i love black people. let me start there. when i say something like that. i brake from a place of love. each when they say something bonkers. i love them. we are hurt. white supremacy is traumatic. i'm going to use that to inform her analysis of my position. to protect the black lives matter movement because black lives are being taken because of black on black violence. it's something we want to address, repair, and it's something unacceptable. that's why we are on the ground trying to fix that. we don't have to attack one movement to support another. we don't have to destroy the work the activists have been doing the last year. we don't have to disrespect that to acknowledge the fact that that little girl didn't have to
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die. but many of us get caught up in the pain that we start rejecting our own instead of accepting our own. >> mark -- >> go ahead. >> go ahead. but i want to ask you something. >> she said there is no such thing as white privilege. at that moment i lost all sort of understanding of her position. >> listen, can you understand maybe she did not articulate. custom a lot of people are maybe not ar take lating well enough and people get upset by it. you don't see as much outrage, a group that coalesced like blook black lives matter to protest the killings. we have about on cnn and fox news and others talking about it for years. don't you understand that, some people don't see why hasn't this happened before, when it's come to that? >> you make a come peming argument. it's just not true. black people have been outraged
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about us killing each other forever. we don't organize and march against gangs, or against black people killing each other. >> that's what i just said. >> no. no. we protest it. i said we don't do it in the same way. we do violence interruption, conflict resolution, gun buy back problems. i don't march against them like i march against the police. >> mark, i have to go. answer sorry we are running long. coming up, with the markets in turmoil, we have advice from dave ramsey. plus, will join run for president? and what will ittin mean for donald trump? i'll ask glen beck what he thinks. ♪ ♪
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