good evening, everyone. john berman in for anderson. thank you for joining us. breaking news tonight. you will see it only here on cnn. late word that vice president joe biden has just received the biggest green light you can get for a presidential run. cnn's senior washington correspondent jeff zeleny broke this story. he joins us now by phone. jeff, the president and vice president had lunch today. and the vice president left with a whole lot more than dessert. >> reporter: no question, john. i mean, president obama has always said this will be, you know, joe biden's own decision on this. but i'm told that he gave his blessing to a potential run. did not try and talk the vice president out of his pursuit of the presidency.

it's important to point out the vice president has still not decided. but this lunch today was far from one of their leg rarly scheduled lunches. they talked about 2016 campaign, but also about the messages and what is happening out there in the country now, economic messages, economic policy. so the president did not try and walk him back at all. he i'm told gave his blessing to run. of course now it's up to the vice president if he decides to do it. >> not an endorsement -- to be clear, not an endorsement, but a blessing to run, if joe biden decides to do it. if you can believe it, the meeting between the president and the vice president, not the only meeting today that is stirring speculation. jeff zeleny, i understand there is a meeting going on at the vice president's residence right now, also of note, that includes two of the president's most trusted advisors? >> that's right, john. two of the president's top advisors, some of his longest serving politicaled a advice visors, bob bower, who has been his election lawyer for years

and anita dun, who is a communications director in the white house to help sort of craft his presidential campaign. those two are among a few others meeting right now with vice presidented bien in the naval observatory, his official residence in washington. they have not yet signed on to any type of biden campaign. they are among the people that the vice president is talking to as he decides to -- if he is going to run or not. and, again, everyone we speak to throughout the so-called biden world, they still say he has not yet made his decision. but, john, he is trying to get as much information as possible. he met with liz wet warren over theeck would. the same type of meeting this. meeting tonight signifies if he were to decide to run there are people from the obama inner circle to be there to help him. >> these are obama people meeting with biden tonight talking about how to run, not whether to run. jeff zeleny with big breaking news on two fronts involving joe

biden. wait. there is more. john king has the details. he joins us now along with cnn political commentator paddy solis doyle. cnn political analyst carl bernstein, best selling author of a woman in charge, the life of hillary rodham clinton. john, i want to start with you. we've been talking about joe biden meeting with the president, meeting with others right now talking politics. i understand you have meetings with fund-raisers. >> the liz wet warren meeting was the first stroke. the blessing from the president, gold to joe biden is the second stroke. the meeting tonight part the next series of meetings. the vice president meeting with people who put campaigns together, legal work, communications message. after labor day some fund-raisers will come in. other state party leaders and

national leaders will be consulted. most of these in political meetings but he has a social events scheduled around things like rosh hash anna will political activists will be invited in for social events in custom the vice president will have time to put his arm around them. in a series of social events and a series of officially designed political meetings, the president throughout the early weeks of september will continue these consultations. john, the goal is to decide by the end of the month. in again, everyone insists no final decision has been made, but what we are hearing from those in the meetings, he tells them he is for and more comfortable with the idea of running. i'm told by his people he very much wants to run but wants to spend the next several weeks trying to get a sense of the terrain. number one, can he beat hillary clinton. number two, does he want to run, have something he wants to say.

>> it is more than a trial balloon. it is a trial rocket ship. pat east, the latest reporting on the lunch where president obama gave his blessing to joe biden. i don't think it's surprising he would give his blessing, joe, if want to run, run. what we are seeing today with the leak of the meeting, the leak of the blessing, jorch hirsch saying what a great guy joe biden is, this is more than a blessing i think. >> the vice president is a great guy. and clearly there is a lot of affection and a lot of love between the president and the vice president. and of course the president was going to give him all the room he needs to make his decision. >> but there are ways to say that we had lunch, and there are ways to say we had lunch. this seems to go beyond that. >> right. so, the next step is, will he decide the actually run? if he decides to actually run then the president and the white house are in a bit of a pickle,

do they endorse? if so, who? what's the timing of the endorsement? early on, where they can make a difference, hem him or her raise money? or do they let it play out a little bit. it will be interesting to see. >> the president will be in a pickle. so will hillary clinton. which we'll talk about in just a second. before we bring her up, carl, you have been hearing people close to joe biden saying if he decides to run he could say look i only want to do this for one term. i want to be a one-term president because of his age. do you think it is an advantage to make that statement going into the campaign? we've heard of that in the past, candidates speculating they might do that. they never actually go ahead with it. >> i think he has until if he were to win the nomination to do it. there is no necessity to do it now. the time would be to do it when he had the nomination where in the minds of voters who were uneasy about his age, he could do it then. but i know he is thinking about it.

the people i talked to a few weeks ago when i first reported it. but the real factor that's driving so much of this is the distrust within the party now about the viability of hillary clinton's campaign, that she is on very shaky ground within her own party by people who are disappointed in the democrat party with how she has run this campaign, with her difficulty with being strayed forward and truthful about the matters of the server. and that's what has brought on so much of this, along with donald trump. >> so, john, if you are hillary clinton and the clinton campaign watching this, i mean, you've known that joe biden was thinking about it for a while. but over the last four days, this has just gone to a whole new level. >> it certainly has. it's gone to a whole new level at a key moment. number one n an odd way, this could in the long run, if joe biden doesn't run or if he runs and can't beat hillary clinton will in an odd way help her. what were we talking before, the

rise of bernie sanders. now he is sort of on pause while we talk about joe biden. hillary clinton, carl laid it out, there are serious vulnerability, and there is a conversation about potential vulnerability. carl and patty have been through this. some of this is probably not fair to hillary clinton but when an investigation and the justice department involved and you have the same lawyers coming out of the woodwork the same lawyers that came out during the prior clinton presidential days. is that fair to hillary? probably not. but it is a fact and it is history. when you see the david kendall profile on the front page of the new york times you get nervous. ly has to keep campaigning, got out there and talk to voters. probably going to have to keep talking to the media. she has a key date in october

before the select committee on benghazi to give public testimony. jerry browne the governor of california said it right this past weekend. she can't shoot and make this e-mail story going away. it's like a vampire. >> another aspect of this, john, is that people in the democrat party, including her really loyal supporters believe that she has played into the hands of the clinton's enemies and the party's enemies. and that is what has shaken so many people. because once again, it looks to these fund-raisers, look to these party leaders as if the clintons have suck automaticed to their own worst instimpgs. >> patty -- >> and that's why there is so much talk. and patty doyle knows an awful lot about what happens in these situations. >> patty, let me show you a quinn pea act poll in florida. last week. it shows that donald trump is beating hillary clinton in florida in the most recent

polling. but that joe biden is beating trump. in other words, biden is doing better than hillary clinton is doing in hick. you are starting to see voters in polls showing that hillary clinton is not doing well here. >> i do not buy that joe biden is thinking about running because of hillary's e-mail. i think -- look, the last sitting vice president that did not run in an open election, i think was kidick complainy. joe biden has done a great job as vice president. he has an incredible relationship with congress on both sides of the aisle. >> he has a 20% net faifrl favorable right now, hillary clinton did, do you think he would be running? >> i think it has more to do with the health of his son and less thou to do about his e-mails. >> it's going to be an awkward

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that was the sounds in al strange way i of relief. the dow jones industrials closed down nearly 600 points. but there was relief that it was only 600. the market began today by losing 1,000 points in about ten minutes. and for a while, even seasoned market watchers were at a loss to explain what was going on. fortunately, cnn's unflappable richard quest, never at a loss for words. he joins us right now. richard, what on earth happened? >> very simply, it was the moment when somebody called fire and everybody decided to head for the door. in the global interwoven markets that we've got what started in china and shanghai raced through india, up through france, frankfurt, london, and ended up on these shores. >> china is one of the things being focused on right now? >> that is the thing. that is the thing. that and the falling price of oil. but the question is dubious nature of chinese economist

statistics and whether china is basically going to grow even at the limited rate of 5 to 7% that they might. >> you say the dubious name of the information coming out of china. donald trump said something like that today. he talked about china's slowing economy. he said this could get very messy. it's all caused by china and asian being able to dictate. >> you have to take with it a grain of salt. the man can't have it both ways. this is same man who has basically made a fortunate selling those expensive apartments to the chinese. which does he want? does he want a roaring chinese economy that enables china to buy his property? or does he want a more realistic china economy, who is what is taking place at the moment? i mean i'm not going to get into the politics. i'll leave that to others better qualified. but on the economics of mr. trump's argument, he is on thin ice. >> let's move from donald trump to me for a second here because there are a lot of people out

there concerned about their 401(k)s -- by a lot of people, i mean me. what do you do? >> nothing. >> nothing? >> not now. it's too late. what do you want to do? do you want to sell into a market -- >> i would like for it not to have gone down 4%. >> you have made a mistake, live with it for moment, john, seriously, it's the most foolish thing anybody can now do is to sell into a falling market chltsz it's like trying to catch a knife that's falling. you are not going to win. you have to ride this one out. safe in the knowledge that the u.s. economic fundamentals are strong, as we heard from the white house today. unemployment is low. inflation is low. growth is moderate. the fed probably won't raise rates. almost certainly won't raise rates in september. and unfortunately you will have a bout of indigestion over the next few days. >> because you yelled at me and called me an amateur, i want you to stick around for a moment and take part of this conversation. i want to bring in david gergen

who sees a lot of 24 through a political lens. he identified the market plunge as one of three signs that the silly season in this campaign is over or ought to be. and says it's time to get serious. by serious, david means focusing more than on donald trump's antics and hillary's e-mails and more on policy. joining us is jeff relord. david. you say this market plunge should put pressure on presidential candidates to engage in a more meaningful way? >> absolutely. we've had a summer frolic and there has been more entertainment than politics. donald trump is at the center of that. as americans face the fact that the world financial markets are in chaos that the economy may be more fragile than we thought, that your 401k could be in trouble, what americans want now is leadership that is strong as

well as steady and a steadying force for us. that's the kinds of person they look for. and they are going to start trying to size up the candidates. and donald trump exudes personal strength but he hasn't yet shown himself yet to be quote presidential in a way we normally think. in other words, he is not a up kaing force, a steadying force for this society, which is what people want in a president. hillary clinton, on the other hand is a calm, steadying force but people are really worried about whether she is strong enough for the job. and the same thing, does jeb bush have the kind of fire. this is going to be a testing time for the candidates that goes beyond what we saw in the summer. the from jaility and the chaos in the markets. we have the pope coming here to talk about income and quality. we've got the iran agreement. september is going to be a critical month for the campaign to turn from being a frolic to being serious.

>> so, jeff lee, mr. gergen says the time for fun is over. let me play you a little bit of what donald trump posted inon sta gram having to do with china. listen. >> i've been telling everybody for a long time china is taking our jobs, they are take our money. be careful. they will bring us down. you have to know what you are doing. we have nobody that has a clues. >> you have to know what you are doing. we have nobody that has a clue. that to me right now seems like his china policy, jeffrey. is there more to it? does he need explain more how he would deal directly with china? >> i'm sure he will. he has been talking about china for a long time. i interviewed him over year ago and he said to me in the article that i wrote for the american spectator that it was inconceivable that the american leadership didn't understand that we were headed for a fall with china and the country was going to have a problem. well, bingo, here is the day. today turns out to be, you know, that moment. he has been talking about this a

long time. one of the things, john, that i think you will see as this goes along. you have seen it a bit on immigration. presidential campaigns tend to mimic the office of the pressy itself. as -- presidency itself. as they take off and gain steam, the candidate acquires policy papers. they acquire serious advisors in all the many different areas that the presidency itself has. i don't have any doubt as this campaign goes along that you will see more of this from donald trump in detail. that's just the way that the system works. >> richard, you want in on this? >> yeah -- >> one other thing. >> go ahead jeffrey. >> go the, david. >> the one other thing i'd say is the numbers in the cnn poll the other week showed that 44% of the american people gave him the best ratings on the economy. and jeb bush was down there like 30 points behind. so i think in terms of the economy, the american people, at least who responded in that cnn poll, really do see him as the strong voice on the economy. >> richard, go ahead.

>> the only thing i'm going to say on this is if this crisis that david gergen rightly points out in the markets continues, who do you -- who is going to make the phone call to chancellor myrtle in germany? who is going to speak to the chinese president? who is going to ring david cameron in london. and if there is a g 7 or a g 8 or a g 20, which candidate is going to give the leadership, not brow booed beating or the bombast of. that it's fine to say in a campaign we're going to build a wall or china is about to take us all down. but at some point that same person has to negotiate with them. >> david, you have worked for a lot of presidents. how do these other countries look at these new presidents? we've had a lot of different personalities in the white house. when ron reagan came into the white house a lot of people thought he was some cowboy. but the other countries around the world, they learned to deal with him. >> ronald reagan was wise enough

to bring in some very seasoned players like george schultz at the date department that made an enormous difference. and he didn't pretend to do it alone and did not do it through bombast. he was a -- when times got tough, reagan got very calm. and people want that in a leader and donald trump clearly knows a lot about the economy. he clearly has an edge over others, everyone else running except carly fiorina, who was very good by the way today. he now has to convert this strength into something that people say the country is going to be in safe hands. no just strong hands. and the world has to know that. i think richard quest is absolutely right about notion that somebody has to be in the oval always who can call chancellor merkel who is understand this is not about beating up china, this is about emerging economies all over the world where there is from jaility. we want someone who is

steadying. there is no one out there on the scene -- donald trump can do that, but this is going to be his test. >> he has to prove it. great to have you all here with us. thanks. next, donald trump specifics and his immigration plan. also a take from jorge ramos on donald trump and why he thinks that trump is quote the loudest voice of intolerance, hatred and division in the united states. strong words. hear how he defends them when 360 continues. ♪"once there was a hushpuppy" by dan romis man kind?eitlin ♪

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donald trump, as you know, recently unveiled a 14-point plan to deal with illegal immigration. he did it after weeks of criticism that he only talked in broad generalities. over the weekend he appeared to side step questions over how to complement and pay for some of those 14 points, including how he would locate, an recomprehends and then deport 11 million unauthorized agreements? if there is no idea how are you going to round them up? where are you going to get the money? where are you going to get the forces? >> exactly how are you going to do it. >> it's called management. the first thing we have to do is secure the border but it's

called management. >> you keep declaring you want to do it but you don't say how. >> excuse me? >> you declare how you are going to do it but you don't say how. >> it's called management. understand that you think it is a huge problem but i still don't hear specifics on how you are going to do this? >> my specifics are very simple. item of. i'm going to get great people that know what they are doing. not a bunch of political hacks that have no idea what they are doing. >> let's get perspective from jorge ramos who is an anchor at union vision news and fusion who has for months been trying to get an interview with trump. jorge, we saw trump pushed for specifics about his immigration plan. you raised a lot of bouts about that plan and what's inside it. you say in your opinion it is all wrong. how so? >> exactly. and it's only empty promises. what he is trying to sell, the utopia he is trying to sell to the american public simply doesn't work. it's impossible.

he cannot deport 11 million people from this country. can you imagine. let's mej imagine how he is going to deport 11 million, by bus? is he going to bring the army? can you imagine the human rights violations. and then talking about the estimates, about $12500 per immigrant. he is willing to spend $137 billion to deport 11 million people from this country? that's one problem. he can build a 1900 mile border between mexico and the united states. and it's absurd. it's an expense that is completely unnecessary because almost 40% of all immigrants come by plane and overstay their visas. and of course he cannot deny citizenship to the children born to undocumented parents for one simple reason. that's constitution.

14th amendment. everything dlump is -- donald trump is trying to sell is false. >> i want to ask you about his attitude and maybe the why. you said, he is no question, the loudest voice of intolerance, hatred and division in the united states. i think supporters hear that and say, listen, he is not spreading hate, people. his supporters say he is just telling it like it is. why are they wrong? >> not spreading hate in the when you say that immigrants from mexico are criminals and rapists, isn't that spreading hate? when you call u.s. citizens anchor babies, is that not spreading hate? when you call 11 million people in this country illegals -- and no human being is illegal -- isn't that spreading hate?

that's precisely what is affecting the hispanic community. this is not politics for us. this is personal. when he is talking about immigrants, he is talking about me. he is talking about laugh of the latino population in this country who is 18 years or older who was born in another country. so the things that he considers just blunt talk, it is clearly offensive. and he is having an immediate political impact. 75% of latinos -- 75% of latinos have a negative image of mr. donald trump. so is he going to win the white house? it is impossible for him to win the white house without a hispanic vote and right now nationwide he doesn't have it. >> trump says we won't be talking about this at all. we won't be talking about immigration at this stage of the election if not for him? do you think there is any truth in that? i mean he certainly has put this discussion at the forefront? >> i agree with you completely. i think the only positive thing

about what mr. donald trump has been saying is that he brought immigration to the forefront of the 2016 campaign. this is something that many latino leaders wanted to see. and it's happenhappening. in the next election, 16 million latinos will go to the polls. 16 million latinos could define the next election. the past election president obama won by less than 5 million votes. in other words, 16 million latino votes could combine the next election. clearly a majority of them do not agree with donald trump. we are talking a year from now, next summer, by then, both parties will be pleading by latino votes. and those who have felt offended by mr. donald trump will remember what he has said. and let's remember that donald trump is is a creation of the republican party. the same idea that other republicans have espaused in the past but only that he expresses them with more violence and in an extreme way.

>> jorge, great to have you here with us. really appreciate your time, sir. >> thank you, john. >> as for jeb bush who is both groping for a clear message on immigration while grappling against donald trump, he spoke out again today against trump's 14 point plan. >> the plan is not grounded in conservative prince pechlt it would cost hundreds of millions of dollars. it's not realistic. it won't be implemented. and we need border security in terms of getting this country become on track. i'm not going to get into the issues of what he said and what i said. the simple fact is that his proposal is unrealistic. it will cost hundreds of millions of dollars. it will create friction with our third largest trading partner which is not necessary and i think he is wrong about this. >> he made those remarks in texas, pouliot joins us from there now. the former govern was in texas

today but didn't actually visit the border, correct. >> reporter: that was one of the main questions here. the former governor actually speaking at the mexican restaurant you see over my shoulder as opposed to making that six-mile drive to the u.s./mexico border. some of his aids and. sof his campaign officials here saying that the reason for that is that the former governor has already seen the border and in their words is well aware of what happens there. we did see a different jeb bush. he was filled with new energy. he was feisty at times. and he was using that new tone to take direct jabs at his main opponent, donald trump, criticizing his immigration plan to build a massive wall and also deport the estimated 11 million undocumented people in the country as really not affordable, not realistic, and simply not conservative enough. >> it's interesting, his entire team has been more aggressive when it comes to donald trump. i understand that the governor did address the use of his controversial term anchor baby. what did he say?

>> reporter: he brought that controversy with him early yes today. one of his feistier moments was when a reporter asked him about that. he did offer clarity. which was the first time he broke this down. he said he was mainly referring to the practice of being pregnant women from other countries into the united states with the sole intention of having their baby in the u.s., become u.s. citizens. he went on to call that practice fraudulent. i pressed him myself asking if he is going to continue to use that highly controversial term, anchor baby. he did not actually answer specifically. he simply referred to that process again as very fraudulent. >> interesting. pouliot sandoval, down in texas. thank you so much. just ahead, what it took for five brave passengers to stop the terror attack on a french train. how it unfolded minute by minute as the train sped toward paris. plus, something we have never shown you before. inside the tunnel that two killers used to break out of a

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new information tonight about is suspect in the french train attack. u.s. law enforcement sources tell cnn the gunman could have easily flown to the united states from europe because he wasn't on american authorities radar even though european authorities knew about his links to terrorist networks and his possible travel to syria. they did not share that information with u.s. officials. a sobering reminder of the security cracks the bad guys can slip through. this time the bad guy is in custody because five passengers stepped up to stop him. four americans and a british citizen n. paris today, four of them received france's highest recognition, the legion d'honneur. the fifth will receive that as soon as he recovers. >> i saw he was squirting blood out of his neck. i was going to use my shirt but i realized that wasn't going to

work so i stuck two of my fingers in the hole, found what i thought was the artery and pushed down and the bleeding stopped. i held that until the paramedics got there. >> here martin savidge with how it all unfolded. >> reporter: the high-speed french train leaves amsterdam around 3:15 in the afternoon for what should be a three-hour trip to paris. on board are three american friends enjoying a european vacation together. two hours later the train makes a stop in brussels where the alleged gunman a moroccan native gets on board. minutes later, shirtless, he emerges from a bathroom located between cars 11 and 12 in first class. he makes his way back to car 12, where he is confronted by moogalian, also an american from north carolina, who teaches english in france. mark moogalian manages to wrestle the assault rifle from the gunman but kaz any shoots him in the neck with a pistol

and grabs the rifle back. it's that gun shot that alerts the three american friends. it's 5:50 p.m. >> the gun shot was probably the first noise i heard. and then that was followed by some breaking glass. so the gun shot was one of the -- pretty much the first thing that came to our attention. i didn't know it was a gun shot at the time of. but that was like the first thing that i heard. it was behind me so i had no idea where he was aiming or what he intended to do. >> reporter: 22-year-old alex skarlatos, fresh from a tour of duty in afghanistan is the first to react, shouting get him. his buddy, spencer stone, a martial arts enthusiast and in the air force leads the charge toward the suspect. >> ran down, tackled him. we hit the ground. alek came up and grabbed the gun out of his hand while i put him in a choke hold. it seemed like he just kept pulling more weapons left and right. pulled out a handgun. al took that.

took out a box cutter, started jabbing at me with that. we let go. all three of us started punching him while he was in the middle of us. and i was able to grab him again, and choke him unconscious while alek was hitting him in the head with the pistol or rifle. i can't really remember. >> reporter: stone is severely slashed by a box kultder nearly losing his thumb and suffering injuries to his neck and head. >> the guy had a lot of ammo. hess intentions were clear. >> reporter: that's when the third american, anthony sadler helps tie the suspect up, aided by a britishman, chris norman. mark moogalian is bleeding badly from his neck. sadler uses his phone to capture the first chaotic moments after the violent struggle. then sadler goes car too car spreading the news to terrified passengers, the danger is over. ten minutes after the first shot, the train is diverted off

the main line and rerouted to a town 115 miles north of paris. the gunman is taken into police custody. these pictures show what appear to be additional magazines suggesting the attacker planned to reload numerous times. the injured and wound ready taken to air hospitals. all indications the quick thinking americans aided by others diverted a massacre on a train. >> amazing stories. martin savidge joins me from paris. what are we learn being the gunman and whatever ties to terrorism he may or may not have had. >> reporter: kazany is the man in question. according to his attorney, he claims no aifiation to any terrorist organization and doesn't have any religious affiliation. but european investigators are

concerned about a trip in may in custom he travelled to turkey. and the concern is whether or not he may have had meetings with isis sympathizers or isis planners, and that somehow as a result of that meeting the attack on friday took place. meanwhile, tomorrow kaz any is expected to be formally charged. he is being held in presence intelligence headquarters tonight. >> the american heros who helped stop the attack. they were in europe as part of a long vacation. what's next for them? >> reporter: i mean, you have to really imagine -- you can actually sort of tell when you look at their clothing these were men who clearly did not anticipate becoming heros. and standing at the presidential palace next to the french president. that aside. what is next is that the two servicemen are heading to germany. stone will need additional medical care. so he is going to a u.s. medical

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for first time we are getting a close look inside the up the two convicted killers used in their elaborate escape from an upstate new york prison earlier this summer. david sweat back behind bars. his breakout partner richard matt was shot and killed. they escaped from the clinton correctional facility in june. now we are seeing how they did it, up close. randy indicate reports. >> using a flashlight so we can get decent camera footage. >> reporter: two state investigators armed with supplies and two go pro cameras showing us just how inmates david sweat and richard matt shimmied and naked their way to freedom. the video given to us by an official source is about 20 minutes long, as long as it takes for these investigators to wine their way through the belly of clinton correctional facility, just like the escapees did back in june.

>> coming to the end of a block. >> reporter: we are not showing the investigators' faces but their point of view is eye opening. they begin at the very spot where matt and swed cut holes in their cells, then follow the same six story high catwalk before jumping down to take on an elaborate maze of pipes and the prison's tunnel system. >> approaching the first significantly tight squeeze. the end of b block leading into the c block area. >> reporter: about halfway through the tape. >> currently about nine, almost ten minutes in. >> reporter: our first glimpse of the hole that takes them from one prison building to the next. investigators squeeze themselves through it to reach the other side. >> watch your legs. wire there. >> reporter: they push forward. retracing the prisoners' steps and just like them, dealing with unbearable heat. >> getting warm. >> reporter: at 14 minutes, they are underneath the asphalt yard

between buildings. >> we are now just exited the block area and enter into the pipe chase tunnels adjacent to b block and c block. >> reporter: it's a maze that even these investigators have trouble mastering. there is piping hot steam. at times, it's hard to breathe. >> we are basically southbound from that tunnel. >> reporter: about 17 minutes in, they reach the now legendary steam pipe used by the escapees. this is where it gets tricky. sweat had told investigators he spent nearly a month cutting holes in this steam pipe. all part of his secret nightly trips spent mapping out their elaborate escape. >> going to get in this pipe. just now reaching the exit. and hoping to extricate myself from the steam pipe.

which is not easy. >> reporter: and then the homestretch. passing one chained unmanhole cover and making their way to the next one. the very same manhole richard matt and david sweat emerged from, kicking off three-week manhunt. >> randi kaye joins us. randy, you lived this story. you were up there for weeks and weeks and weeks. now that we've seen this video, this remarkable video of the palg they took, i'm wondering what strikes you? >> i think how intricate it was down there. for so long we were there and they were telling us how they made their way through. and now i know why david sweat practiced for months trying to finds out the best way out. when the nights would go out at light he would go down into the bowels of the prison and map it out. there is no signage, there is no

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