is good, transit. late it into something good. >> attacks on megyn kelly on top of jeb bush. he says he can afford -- >> he is leading in the polls. >> thank you so much for being with us. that does it for us tonight. cnn with don lemon next. the breaking news, donald trump rallying the faith envelop iowa. we're going to give you all the highlights in just a moment. this is cnn tonight. before the rally, there was a fireworks, univision anchor jorge ramos physically removed from trump's news conference. listen. >> sit that down. sit down. go ahead. no, you don't. you haven't been called. go back to univision. go ahead. >> you cannot deport 11 million

people. >> go ahead. >> sit down please. you weren't called. yes. go ahead. that's not the end of it. minutes later, jorge ramos is allowed back into the news conference. that's when the real fireworks began. good to have you back. okay. >> you cannot denial citizenship -- >> why do you say that?

well, a lot of people think, no, no, excuse me. a lot of people -- okay. >> you cannot deny citizenship -- [ inaudible ]. >> why do you say that? >> well, a lot of people think, no, no. excuse me. a lot of people, no, no. i build buildings that are -- can i tell you what's more complicated? what's more complicated is building a building 95 stories tall. okay? i think so. i'm going to bring jobs back. how much am i suing univision for? do you know the number? tell me. you're part of the lawsuit.

how much i am a suing univision for? it's $500 million. and they're very concerned about it. i have to tell you. i'm very good at this. >> i don't think i will. >> i want to bring in sarah murray now in dubuque, iowa. that was quite a tense moment. tense moments that went on for a while. you were part of the exchange. what was it like? >> a pretty long exchange. what was really standing out no. when jorge was kicked out. there is always that moment when you see a reporter challenging a public figure that won't tanls question and you want to know how they hand it. and it was pretty clear that trump would not stand for it. as soon as they said to sit down, he started to see the security guards come in from around the corner. there were a number of them came up around him and escorted him out.

they had this testy exchange on immigration. i think that's what donald trump was worried about. he was a little worried that his news conference would get hijack asked it would all be about immigration and with jorge asking dill questions about how feasible donald trump's plan really is. so i think it is very telling. not entirely surprising. we know this is a candidate who does not like to be challenged. when he is, he tends to hit back pretty hard. >> we didn't really, you couldn't really hear. jorge ramos was not on microphone. what was the question about? what was that exchange about? >> so he originally started asking about the 11 million and whether you could deport all of them. asking about the feesibility of and it saying he too was an immigrant. i think that set off a red flag for donald trump. he said something about jorge being from univision so it is hard to know if he knew who he was or what was going on. it was a very testy exchange.

more drama thaunl expect to see in the average news conference. >> so who did people think was out of line in that room? trump or jorge ramos? >> i think both came away with the moment they were hoping to get out of it. when you think about the audience and univision, there are a lot of people very frustrated with donald trump. he is getting hammered on spanish speaking media. and they wanted someone to stick to it trump. and for trump, his voters like when he scores points against the media, particularly when he says the liberal media. so i think this is another notch of pride for donald trump. >> all right. stay with us. we'll get back to you. joining us, the former contestant, and ben ferguson, cnn political koltator and host of the ben ferguson show. i'm going to start with you,

maria, did jorge ramos end up helping donald trump in the moment where he thought he might catch him off guard? >> i think two things happen. i think donald trump was helped by what ramos did and donald trump's moment right now, when he wants to continue to get percentage, that slice of the republican electorate who is frustrated, who is angry, who is resentful. and donald trump essentially embodies all that anger. and today he did that. and i think that he is going to be helped by that. but at the end, let's say he makes it to the general election. he is going to regret tonight. >> we'll get to that moment. i want to get everyone's opinion. what did you think? who was out of line? >> civility is a two-way street. jorge ramos was the first to transgress. there is no reason for him to come right out of the gate and be very aggressive.

a lot of people are pointing out that he is a journalist but he was acting more like an activist. if you're going to do that, people will have a problem with that and ask you to leave. he did get brought back. i think the exchange that happened was pretty interesting. jorge ramos was at a disadvantage because he didn't have a mic on. trump came off better than if jorge ramos would have asked the question and obey the rules all the rest of the journalists had to. >> we didn't hear it there but he talks about building buildings. he said how can you build a fence? he said i build 90-story buildings. i can build a fence. we want everyone to listen to this moment. >> who is next? excuse me. sit down. you weren't called. sit down. sipt down.

no, you don't. you haven't been called. go back to univision. go ahead. go ahead. >> you cannot deport 11 million people. >> go ahead. sit down, please. you weren't called. go. >> okay. that was the beginning of it. do we have the full answer when he come back into the room for our audience? i want to go to you now, ben ferguson. what do you make of this moment? who was out of line here? >> i think ramos was absolutely out of lightning. he knows how it works. you point. you call on people. this was not a candidate walking out of a car. this was an organized press conference. ramos came in thinking, i'm going to stick to it donald trump and my audience will love me and i'll make a scene so i

can report on the scene. it back fired. this is why people like donald trump. he is a guy who will not allow you to bully him. he will not tate. i think the way he hand it saying, you're out of line. he's not afraid of him. he let him come back in and had a longer conversation with ramos than probably all the other journalists combined. all this will do is make donald trump look like a tough guy. a tough negotiator. this guy could be a tough president. and i think this showed that. >> do you know the press conference. he said i paid for this microphone. donald trump said i'm not going to let anybody interrupt my xroempbs in reference to black lives matter, reference to bernie sanders. what did you make of this

moment? >> i thought it was very donald trump. but i thought jorge ramos had it all planned. he expected to go in and create a scene and that's what was done. i agree with what everybody else was saying. it seemed like george was more of an activist rather than a journalist. i think if it was done properly, trump would have answered his questions. it will cause another distraction like the megyn kelly situation has caused and the rosie o'donnell has caused. definitely entertaining. >> it keeps on it donald trump. one of the things about this, donald trump. we've been talking about him for not days. not weeks. it is now into months. if you're one of the other candidates in the gop field, this is worst night you could have asked for. now, no one is paying attention to you. no one is going to cover your

event the way it may have been covered. for donald trump and his campaign, as long as we're talking about him -- >> right now, we're not talking about the fact that we're supposed to believe that joe biden woke up and said yeah, maybe i'll run for president. hillary clinton is losing to marco rubio who is in a very fractured field. losing in three key swing states. "the new york times" is reporting on this. instead we're talking about this. >> before i let you in here maria, he is picking fights with a female journalist. as everyone on the panel mentioned, he was not called on. as much as we respect and admire jose ramos' work, he wasn't

called on. what do you think this will be on the republican party? don't they need a female and the hispanic vote? >> desperately, yes. let's be very clear. tonight's and change, both mental were playing to their audiences. so this was not a fail for jorge ramos. are you kidding me? you watch univision's reporting about this now even and they are going crazy against donald trump. and i've talked so much about this, don. for a republican party that needs to get additional support from hispanic voters, making an enemy of or ray ramos is not the way to do it. and one. things jorge was trying to give them chance to do is to clarify his immigration stance. that's what brought down romney and john mccain. >> he was not trying to clarify it. he kept telling trump -- >> one at a time. >> yeah. >> he was saying, you can't do.

this you can't do that. in fact u.s. federal law does say there have to be people deported under certain circumstances. congress has voted multiple times to build a fence. >> let's not exaggerate. >> george ramos was definitely not there to help donald trump. clarify that. >> exactly. i think he was trying to give him an opportunity. >> one at a time. >> this was a univision stunt by ramos. and let's put this in perspective. if you love jorge ramos, you're not going on vote for donald trump or any republican. so let's not act like donald trump did a lot of damage to himself. oh, my gosh, he ruined something. you're not at any republican candidate. if you're watching jorge ramos,

the chances you even understood coming out of donald trump's mouth tonight. i highly think why not -- >> wow, i watch it. >> we're coming back and all the mogul feuds. ♪"once there was a hushpuppy" by dan romis man kind?eitlin ♪ are we good? go see. go look through their windows

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fancy promises. >> okay. >> you cannot deny citizenship to the children in this country. you cannot build -- >> why do you say that? >> you cannot do that. >> a lot of people think, no, no, excuse me. a lot of people think that's not right. an act of congress can do it. it is possibly going to have to be test in the courts. a lot of people think if you come and you're on the other side. i'm not talking about mexico. somebody on the other side of the border.

a woman is getting ready to have a baby. she crosses the border for one day. for the next 80 years, hopefully longer, for the next 80 years we have to take care of the people. no, no. no. i don't think so. some of the greatest legal scholars, and i know some of the television scholars agree with you. but some of the great legal scholars agree that's not true. if you come across, excuse me. just one second. no, no. i am answering. if you come across for one day and you have a baby. now the baby will be an american citizen. excuse me. there are great legal scholars at the top that say that's absolutely wrong. it will be tested. ho are you going to build a 90-foot wall? very easily. i build buildings. what's more complicated is building a building 95 stories tall. okay?

do you think so? a lot of people don't think so. i don't believe that. i don't believe it. and the drugs come. the fences are this high. you have fences that are not as tall as i am. >> they're coming by plane. >> by many ways. the primary way they're coming is right through. right past our border patrol who's are tremendous people. they can do the job but they're told not to. here's what we're going to do. we'll do it in a very humane fashion. i have a bigger heart than you do. i'll do it in a very humane fashion. the one thing -- >> one question? is there one question you will ask? >> the one thing we'll start with immediately are the gangs. do you agree there are real bad

ones. do you agree with that or do you think everyone is just perfect? i asked you a question. we have tremendous crime, tremendous problems. i can't deal with this. we have tremendous crime. we have tremendously -- some very bad ones. >> and i think you would agree with that. they looked at some of the gangs in baltimore, in chicago, they look in the ferguson. they got some rough illegal immigrants. they're getting out. do you mind if i send them out? if they come from mexico, do you mind if i send them back to mexico? those people will be out. they'll be out so fast they'll make your head spin. you used the term illegal immigrant. >> [ inaudible ]. >> when they cross the border from a legal standpoint, they're

illegal when they don't have their papers. this is the part you're going to like. i want the good people, i want them to come back and i want them on get documentation so they become legal. do you know what it is called? management. you're not used to good management. you're always talking about government. >> let me tell you. wait, wait. government is incompetent. guys like bush and some others that i won't name. they're inxentd people. they don't have it. i agree they can't do it. i'm a great manager. i know how to hire unbelievable people. when i look at the vets, the v.a., when i look at the v.a., we spend billions of dollars and people are treated horribly. horribly. that will work great. we want to get good people back in. >> [ inaudible ]. >> i've given you specifics.

great management and hopefully they'll come back in very soon. >> okay. maria, ben, katrina, maria, that was a very good exchange. what was wrong with that exchange in what was wrong with him waiting to call you? >> i agree. it was a terrific exchange. i think a couple things happened. like i said, they were both playing to their you had a yegss. and yes, jorge jump in the and it was part show on his part. but then trump told him to shut up and then had him kicked out. and then he rethought that and had him brought back in. both mental are playing to both their audiences. and i can't wait to see jorge ramos tomorrow. i guarantee you it was a huge win for him and for univision. >> i would love for him to come this show. >> i think should you invite him. >> we have invitd him and i would love him to come.

what was wrong with that exchange? >> there were some specifics and i think this come down to class. ramos knew, he knows how these type of press conferences work. you sit down and you're called. on he wanted the theatrics to be, i'm ramos and i'm standing up for the illegal immigrant. i'm going after trump. i don't think it will turn out that way. they may report it differently. i was picked out and this big man picked me out and i forced moo i way back in. the smartest thing was trump said, he is welcome to come back. he will be like every other journalist in the room and i'll have a conversation with him. donald trump was very smart to exhaust that debate with him. make it clear that he was not afraid of him. >> it is a little laughable for donald trump, or people to be talking about donald trump and

respectfulness and politeness. >> she does have a point there. >> he was more respectful than ramos though. >> to that point, tone, does tone really matter? you've heard donald trump say. i'm bringing up all these important issues and everybody is saying my tone, my tone. i'm saying the right things. does tone matter in that situation? >> does tone matter meaning should somebody be respectful that there are questions and answers? >> or the way donald trump hand the situation. >> he got a little aggressive. he is donald trump. what do we expect? when someone challenges him in that manner, it did evolve into a more beneficial question for both sides. and i think the ramos supporters and trump support letters say, yeah, my guy did a really good job. and in the end, they got into some issues of deportation of gang members.

criminal illegal aliens is something the administration has been talking about. not doing a very good job. but trump is trump. if you like trump, you like what you saw. if you don't, you find this unfathomable. you think the gop is having an out of body experience and you cannot make heads or tails out of it. >> i agree with that. do you think ben ferguson may have reported in a different way, do you believe univision may spin night certain way to be favorable to jorge ramos? >> absolutely. >> you do. >> absolutely. i feel like as i'm listening to this exchange as an american, i'm so frustrated. i feel like again, people are losing signs of what donald trump is trying to say. what he is saying is that people should come to this country legally. and bing that process very well because my husband is going through it right now. and it is extremely expensive. so there's more incentive for

people to come over illegally. so all he's saying is, let's make the process to come here legally easier and less expensive so there is more expensive to do that. if people cross the border and they're not supposed to be there, let's make sure they're sent back. what the media is doing is twisting everything he's doing. what is so frustrating as an american, the point is not getting across. people are so worried about his fights with megyn kelly and his fights. forget -- >> go ahead. >> finish your thought. i don't think it is his fault. everything he says gets misconstrued. this immigration thing. i'm over hearing the same thing about him claiming certain things. i'm an his hispanic woman. >> you're in the minority. >> let her finish. >> no.

and i don't agree that i'm with the minority. last time i was on cnn speaking about, this as a hispanic woman, so many hispanic women tweeted to me and said thank you for finally speaking for the real hispanic woman. for all the hispanic women. the real hispanic women. so i'm not a real hispanic woman. >> thank you. >> keep thinking that, please. >> when we come back, donald trump's event is a news conference like none other you have seen before. it was wild even by donald trump standards.

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donald trump speaks to a roaring crowd in iowa tonight. but first, jorge ramos was booted out. i want to play a clip again from this news conference with univision anchor jorge ramos. watch. >> okay. who is next? yeah. please. excuse me. sit down. you weren't called. sit down. sit that down! go ahead. no, you don't. you haven't been called. go back to univision. go ahead. go ahead. >> you cannot deny citizenship to -- >> sit down, please. you weren't called.

>> okay. so donald trump says he was welcome back in and eventually he returned. i want to get everyone's reaction just to the moment. >> it was in some ways a punt stunt and also an important journalistic moment. both at the same time. he had been trying to get an interview with trump for many months. eventually they decided to go to iowa. they weren't sure whether he would get into the press conference. he was allowed in, kicked out and brought back in. it made for good tv but there was some jumpistic substance to it. >> it is kind of funny. i interviewed jorge for a book i'm writing. confrontational questions is what he does. he confront fidel castro and the president of colombia and got

himself kicked out of the country. he wants to do to it put people on the spot and on the record. and yeah, there was some publicity stunt with it. >> mr. brinkley? >> he seemed to be very forceful in that press conference and nobody likes somebody who jumps in and acts like you're an activist reporter, trying to dominate things. i think the way it happened could have worked against him. but once trump brought him in and was able to give jorge that much time, i think the folks are very happy about it. >> fusion univision saying they want to get an in-depth interview between trump and ramos. we'll see if that happens. over the weekend it was about biden and warren. now we're back to talking about trump and about immigration. that might be a win for trump.

>> i want to ask you, how might the different networks use this? univision, other networks, fox possibly, cnn, msnbc, how might they use it? >> it depends whir stand. for univision, they have a largely if not exclusively. certainly not exclusively but largely hispanic audience. they've been trumping if you will, this topic of immigration. it is very close to the hearts of their audience. and it is one of the reasons jorge made the case did he. i don't know how fox will play it because of the megyn kelly business. they didn't really run the press conference live. if you were watching the networks, fox didn't go with much of it. >> you know, indicating ratings is out. there he is doing it here too. an unbelievable spectacle in american politics. >> trump is like a tv producer. he creates the story lines. he come up with great sound

bites. he knows exactly what we in the media needs. he even gives shoutouts during the events. >> let's talk about history and how it repeats itself. i want to play a clip from ronald reagan. this is the 1980 presidential debate. >> you asked if you could make an announcement first and i asked you. >> would the sound man please turn mr. reagan's mic off? >> is this on? mr. green, you asked me -- i am paying for this microphone! >> douglas brinkley immediately, i thought of that. reagan said he believed this incident is what helped take him to the white house. what will this do for donald trump? >> i immediately thought of that too. i heard you mention it too. it ran that reagan bell.

i think it helps trump. he is beating up on the liberal media, beating up on univision. trump has a lawsuit with them. this may not be the ronald reagan we have that one moment there in new hampshire in 1980. this may be the first of many more for donald trump. he seems to be able to manipulate the age of twitter, cable television, the age of the media moment like nobody else's business. i can only tell you the good news for cnn on, september 16, the ratings will be very high. jeb bush and the others will have to go after trump he is and a master of the putdown. when we come back, donald trump's feud with jorge ramos is not the only one. wait until you hear what he says now about a certain fox news anchor. want to go down... nooo... but, then if i want to come back again... yes. it's perfect. and there you have it. (vo) and now through september 13th save hundreds on select tempur-pedic mattresses and adjustable bases. change to tempur-pedic.

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i have a lot of respect for roger. we'll see, maybe, maybe not. i really don't know. i think they covered me terribly. i think they cover me terribly and i'm winning by double digits on every poll. i don't know. maybe it matters. maybe it doesn't. i don't think i get good treatment from fox. >> donald trump talking about his coverage and treatment from fox news. back me now. there's more. >> there is always more with

donald trump, right? >> absolutely. it has been 19 days since that fox debate. cnn has debated this almost as close as fox. because of the attack and then attack megyn kelly again last night. we're still talking about it. really interesting, they found video of trump talking to megyn kelly in 2011. this was back when she had moderated a debate earlier in the season. and trump was going to be a moderator. for a weird period of time. it never happened. here is what emabout megyn kelly. >> i think it is a good idea and i think we get very good ratings. i get good ratings. "the apprentice" gets good ratings. that's why we're in season 12. a lot of people would watch. and i cover things a lot of people wouldn't cover. i think i know the issues, most if not all. i know moderators who don't know what they're talking about. they are just asking questions

and they don't even know what they mean. we'll to have see what happens. one of the problems is they want me to give up the possibility of doing independent run. while it is not something that i want to do, i think not something that i want to give up do you think you're a better moderator than him? >> no. you have done a great job by the way and i mean it. >> something is not -- >> it could be -- >> that could be today except for that last five seconds. >> talking about popularism in the ratings. i could never beat you. you're so great at it. he is not saying that now. there is no love lost between them. megyn kelly has been trying to take the high road. the fact that roger ailes came out. i've never seen a statement like this so forcefully in defense of a star like megyn kelly. >> i have to ask you. people get divorces all the time. you don't stay in love with the person you're in love with always. >> i'm not sure this is a divorce or a quibble.

i don't know what they're doing. i don't know whether donald trump is in character or caricature. here's what he has done. it is quite remarkable. now we're talking about megyn kelly. now we're talking about jorge ramos. he's attack media. the public holds the media in some of the lowest regard it has ever they told media as with all the other institutions that donald trump is attack. he is a state of mind. and that's what i think we hear when he speaks like this. it is a state of mine. and it resonates with so many people. they hold so many institutions in frustratingly agonizingly low regard. >> is he the only -- i don't want to take fox news down. is he the only person who can criticize fox news in a way that makes them concerned that he actually might make a dental? that is really -- >> a little like nixon goes to china here. for donald trump to do this. >> talk about that, douglas

brinkley. >> well, look. there's at love personalities at fox news. i hear all the time donald trump praising sean hannity and bill o'rivaly. i think his comment wasn't that he wish she's would go on vacation, it was retweeting the notion that she's a bimbo. that's beyond the pale. >> let me read them. he said kelly filip was much better without two megyn kelly. the show was much better without her. i like "the kelly file." better without her. perhaps she could take a another unscheduled vacation. >> which is not true by the way. she must have had a terrible vacation. she is really off her game. no clue on immigration. then the retweet of one that you talked about which i hate saying that word bimbo. >> and calling her a waist. we're talking about the highest rated star sometime on fox. he is not going on win by going

after megyn kelly except to frank's point about how people don't like the media gently. even if you like her generally. >>ture historian here. have you ever seen anyone like this take on the media like there? >> no. we're in under chartered territory. way back in history, theodore roosevelt used to go after journalists to make mincemeat out of them. this idea that donald trump will fry anybody in his path. we didn't talk about it because we've been focused on the press conference. but in his speech, the mocking tone saying jeb bush doesn't even like his own last name. these are horrible fighting words he's doing against fellow republicans that he has to face in a few weeks on cnn. i haven't seen anyone go for a scorched earth strategy like this. you're either for the donald trump brand or you're against

it. >> uncharted territory. >> i would like to point something out. you made the ronald reagan comparison earlier. reagan mocked the media and he talked about the puzzle palaces on the potomac of his successor george h.w. bush passed out things that said annoy the media and elect george w. bush. they've all gone after the media but not like this, with this very scorched earth, crass, absolutist tone to him. there is no shade of gray here. >> can i add one more word? >> he has been horrible. he's also having fun. he's having fun and nobody else seems to be having fun. my wife pointed out to me she was spell bound by another trump event. this guy seem to be having a good time. people like thoong out with people who are having a good time. as long as he is having fun, i think we'll keep watching. >> i think it is important to point this out. i'm not sure if it was douglas or frank who talked about this.

but people at fox are coming to, have been, megyn kelly's defense, even sean hasn'ty saying, he's made a point saying leave megyn kelly megyn kelly alone. and here's what rupert -- no. roger ailes said donald trump's surprise and unprovoked attack during her show last night is it's a unacceptable as disturbing. megyn kelly represents the very best of american journalism and all of us at fox news channel reject the crude and irresponsible attempts to suggest otherwise. >> i have to say though. in the exchange tonight, i'm not sure. you say that, some people say ramos got best of trump or trump got best of ramos. i did think in the beginning it made him seem strong, meaning trump. and then to be a gracious person because he allowed him back in to answer as many questions as

he really wanted to. that's right. it went on four or five minutes. nobody else was giving that treatment by trump. and i'm sure ramos will say he appreciate that's trump at least let him talk like that and we thank media form clip. it certainly added some texture and context on what we're talking about. thank you. when we come back, donald trump is a $10 billion candidate. does that make him the man to handle our economy? if you have moderate to severe

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>> times on wall street and donald trump says he's the man to make america rich again. so what would the economy look like under a donald trump administration. joining me now, the creator in what's called a cheap skeptic at tasty tree. . >> is that a good job title or what? chief skeptic? i worked for two decades to with the chief skeptic. well, more than that, really. >> at the end of the day, is this all good? is this turmoil good for donald trump's candidacy? he said, listen, i predicted this. >> there's no question. this is a home run for donald trump.

the same way the financial crisis was a home run for barack obama coming into 2008. anyone who is an antiestablishment let alone a presidential ed election year, is hugely advantaged to fear and anxiety about the economy or about the stock market always comes back to the incumbent political party. so to the extent donald trump is the outsider looking in, he is inskredblely well-positioned to drive all sorts of counter narrative against the democrats, against hillary clinton, against barack obama and really, in his fav favor, whether that's accurate or not, is totally irrelevant. >> just because it's good for donald trump doesn't mean that donald trump is good for america. >> because whatever part he wants to take and make his own, he can. >> yeah, it's like me. i can sit here and tell you how to do a cable news show all day. but having to show up and host

and do a cable news show is a much harder thing to do. i can tell you how to make a movie. anybody who doesn't have to do it, and is which donald trump doesn't have to be the president. he's not responsible for economic policy. he's a brilliant man, by the way. and he's incredibly capable at portraying himself as a man of authority. however, his actual track record as an actual businessman is borderline -- i won't say fraudulent. it is -- he is somebody who plays the role of a billionaire businessman without ever actually creating the value of a billionaire businessman. >> but you can't discount his wealth. >> i would never discount his wealth anymore than kim kardashian's celebrity. it means that his inheritance from his father allowed him to portray himself as a billionaire businessman as a characterer in new york and then project the identity of billionaire

businessman which he inherited and then monetize that by licensing his identity which is very different from steve job. actually creating something of value for other people, which he does not do. >> he could have sat on the money. he could have lost the money. >> he's a brilliant promoter. >> let me get the question is. people are saying it's not so much about whether he's a policy walk or not. he's a good manager. and we need a good manager. >> what is the evidence that he's a good manager, don? he's declared bankruptcy multiple times. if he mismanages the e conditionmy, is he going to default? in the private sector which he says is "good business" is declaring bankruptcy and not paying his credit southerlies. and the way that's american foreign policy is a very sad day for america.

and if this man's claim to fame is that if he is willing to and happily and proudly willing to not pay his creditors, as a matter of "good business" that's not how america wants to run itself. >> i have literally got just a few seconds. you worked at bloomberg -- >> for a decade. >> yes. he said he's going to bring -- quickly. >> donald trump said that? >> yeah. >> great. that's absolutely -- i mean, again, you can say anything. donald trump can say anything and he is. >> all right. i've got to run. >> thank you. >> when we come right back, more fireworks from donald trump's iowa event tonight. plus, the rivalry that may change everything on the democratic side and whether he's going to take on hillary sclin ton. we'll be right back.

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