are gone. >> they were executed by a former employee who was fired two years ago. vester flanagan known as bryce williams on the air. he posted his video saying alison made racist comments and adam went to h.r. after working with him one time. by noon the murderer had shot and killed himself. but before confirmation of his death, wdbj's manager shared his anguish on air. >> i'm going to step out of my role as a former journalist and say, i'm not sure i want him to live or die. if he dies, then he took the coward's way out. >> reporter: the suicide note was 23 pages long seant and sen

abc news. he said that places like wdbj drove him to violence. and he wrote, what sent me over the edge was the charleston church shooting. and my hollow point bullets have the victims' initials on them. pictures last month show him in a bout of road rage. >> and you're still a [ bleep ]. i'm finished, you followed me here. >> what is going through your mind when you go to the parking lot and see him get out? >> i parked in a way i wouldn't get blocked in and got in a vehicle quickly so i wouldn't be in a cage quickly with someone following me. and i was making a b-line to the store to sort of have some other people around because he was obviously not in the right mind. >> in an interview with fox news, alison's father says this is a be pro. he's now dedicating his life to solving. >> we've got to do something

about crazy people getting guns. this is something alison's legacy needs to make happen. >> we will report but not necessarily repeat to the man who did all of this. his name should be forgotten as quickly as possible. as we do all we can to remember the lives that were stolen. and on that note, we'll bring in chris hurst, an anchor at wdbj here in roke roanoke and was dating alison parker writing, she was the most radiant woman i ever met. and for some reason, she loved me back. i'm sorry to have you on, my friend. i appreciate you doing it and know last night had to be tough. how are you doing? how is the family? >> her family remains strong. i am trying to find the strength that she always said that i had inside of me. it doesn't feel like i have it right now, but she told me all the time that she loved me to the ends of the earth and that

she felt safe with me. and i just -- i am so saddened that there was nothing, chris, that could have been done to keep her safe yesterday. i truly believe that. >> what are you taking solace in right now? you know you had a special love in your life, you know you had time with her and now you're clutching what is a large part of your memories. >> i know. it was something that was supposed to be for us, but now that she was taken from this world, i think it is for everyone, some of the pictures that we had together. we made it for our six-month anniversary. she made it for me and wrote, love notes to me, saying for the next six months it was my turn to fill in all the pictures in here. and it's a love story that i think is something that i was privileged and honored to have had for nine months. it was not a long relationship but we wanted to get married. she was celebrating her birthday

with me and a special friend and her parents on the river in north carolina, her favorite place on earth. and there is a place on the river where we were white water rafting where she said, that's where she wanted to get married to me. >> right there. >> right there. and we moved in together at the beginning of august with the desire to save money to buy a house and to buy a ring. >> you have to deal with the fact that you can't remember her the way she was taken. i know it happened on tv. i know the images are out there. >> and i haven't -- i haven't -- until i was here today had not seen any images from his video and had not seen actual video of our air check of what happened. and i can understand fully that he has tried to create a narrative, that is one that i

hope everybody quickly, quickly forgets. because the manner in which he took alison and adam's life should not be the focus of this story. the focus of this story should be two amazing lives that were extinguished yesterday for no good reason. and i now join so many thousands of other americans who cannot explain why their loved ones were taken from them. and when you ask me how i'm doing, i can't explain why either. i have no idea how i'm doing. >> you just have to live your life, let your moments come and take some solace. you saw what happened yesterday, how people came out. alison was 24 years young but touched so many people. >> and she was a hometown girl. she grew up about 45 minutes away from roanoke in mchenry county and was the princess of that area. she was the golden girl. she was the golden child.

and that community is breaking right now for her, her family is surrounded by support. this area is no stranger to tragedy. this station is no stranger to tragedy. many of the people who were working yesterday were working on april 16, 2007, when another atrocity occurred due to gun violence and virginia tech. we will repair. we will regain our strength and we will be able to move forward. >> let me ask you something, chris, we were looking for the book and there's a note in there about her saying, we're making moments, let's make more moments together. >> yeah. >> you know she loved you so much. how do you tell yourself that you got so lucky? how did you do it? >> it really is -- our love story, i think, is just like adam and melissa's. real quick, adam was the best boyfriend and fiancee i could

imagine, way better than me. his spontaneity to show his love, going the extra love to prove his love to melissa is something i have never seen before. and the way he proposed to her was elaborate and well executed and they were going to be a wonderful married couple. >> what did he do? >> he set it up so that she was exactly where they wanted to be, got down on one knee and just always made melissa feel special. and those were two people, just like myself, who maybe never thought they would get that kind of love and we got it. and for me, you know, it was at the station christmas party last year. the way she looked. i mean, chris, you have seen her on television, stunning. >> and the energy that came out of her also. >> and that, too, inside and out. and i saw her at the christmas party wearing this gold sequin dress. and everyone always said she kind of looked a little bit like taylor swift and had this beautiful red lipstick on. and i just stood in the corner and said, chris, you've got to

do something or you're a fool. and something came over me. and i went up and made my move and asked her out a couple of days later and we had our first date on january 1st. >> and you said you felt tremendously lucky and couldn't believe she returned the affection. >> yes, yes. i'm not one to -- i'm not one to really put myself out there for dating. and, you know, it's a tough job that we have. we don't get a lot of free time. people in the business tend to know each other and tend to get each other. and we got each other. but something came over me and i decided that i had to go for it. and we were both so lucky that that occurred because she told me and her parents told me last night that i was the love of her life and she's the love of my life. >> does it help you to know that you had something that many people long for and never have? >> it does. that's the only thing keeping me going. it's surreal to talk to you here because this is an environment that i am familiar with, having

satellite trucks here and having this chaos of media descend upon us. this is something i've been in the trenches for as a journalist and alison has had exposure to it as well. and adam, too. and so this seems surreal and it seems erie and that's giving me some sort of strength to be able to carry on and share her story as much as i can. but also, the love, you're right, the love that we had was so rare, and i want everyone out there to know that it is possible to get that love. even if it only lasts for nine months, and that has given me strength to carry on today. i was thinking last night as i was struggling to fall asleep for only a few hours that i am dismayed that we were coming up to going to more weddings, more events, she was just about to go -- she was a brilliant dancer. she was a brilliant dancer. and we have a charity dancing competition here that she was going to be a part of.

she was going to do the tango because her instructor said, alison, you are so sexy and have to do the tango with me. and she loved it. but i couldn't see it until the night of the performance that is supposed to be later on this fall. and he'll do it by himself in her honor. so i won't get to see that. and last night i thought, we didn't get to have a thanksgiving or christmas together. >> when you think about what you want people to know, the alison you know, it's easy for us to look at her on video and see all the obvious things you want to see in a broadcaster and someone to bring a passion to her work. she was 24 years old, you celebrated together, what was inside alison that we don't get to see on television that you knew? >> she was fierce. >> fierce. >> she was tenacious. >> you told me it was a matter of time before she was eating my lunch. >> i know. she would have run circles around every one of the national news outlets here to cover this

tragedy. >> what made her special? >> she had unflinching confidence in what she wanted to do. maybe not always in herself, but what she wanted to do in her goals. she knew what her goals were. and that was to be in television news, to do journalism, to be a visual story teller and to eventually become an anchor. and she was anchoring a lot. and i'm sure that that was going to be a promotion for her in the very near future. and then she wanted to eventually become a news director. she thought that was the path to becoming a news director. how many 24-year-olds do you know in the business to say that's my career goal? not to be on tv, not to get all of the accolades and attention, she wanted to be a news director. she was a journalist. >> the goals for a lot of us are usually a lot more shallow things. is that part of the reason that the love was so fast? >> one of many reasons. i saw her and i told my mother when i met her and we first started dating that, mom, i have finally found my teammate and my

partner. and we were going to be a great tv news couple. >> people say that about both of you, by the way, they say the personalities were a perfect mesh. that the energy that you have, the way you are with people, that you were a perfect set for each other. >> i think we were. i think that it proves that you can find a perfect match out there. even when i never thought that would happen. the inscription she wrote at the top says, the cutest, newsiest pretty couple. and damn it, chris, i think we will be, forever. >> i love this. over the years, i hope we keep our five-year -- >> the whole thing. >> over the years i hope we keep our 5-year-old sense of humor. yes -- >> go ahead and say it. no, don't say it. >> this was personal. this is our story, let's be sure to capture more wonderful moments and have this book.

>> this was meant to be shared on our six-month anniversary. she gave this to me as a gift. >> it took a lot of time and love. >> for my birthday she took me to virginia and wrote me an invitation and gave et to my on my birthday that she did in perfect old english. i mean, she was amazing. there was nobody else i have ever met or even heard about who was as special and remarkable as her. and these things were private for us, these things were for us, but now that she's been taken from me and her family, i need the entire world to know that a woman as amazing as her exists and was taken too soon. and our love is forever. >> one thing i want you to know, you speak so beautifully. you're a pro, but this is about more than your ability as a broadcaster. when you say she was taken, remember that on the most important level that is not true. because you had the time, you have the memories, you have the

intimacy and the connection as is remembered in these pictures that can't be taken. and i hope you hold it close. >> real quick, i thank you for that. and i am a broadcaster. and this is -- people say, how can you do this so quickly after it happened? and i'm a communicator, it's the only thing i know how to do. she had so many wonderful things she was excellent at. >> that's what she wanted you to do. >> yes, it's what she wanted me to do. she went to school for calculus and was a champion swimmer, a gymnast, a kayaker, a dancer and a broadcaster and a friend and a lover. and it's the only thing i know how to do. and yes, i will carry these pictures with me. as a broadcaster, i don't like to share pictures on facebook. i'm a very private personal generally, i don't like to do it. but she drew this out of me. and i have dozens and dozens of photographs with her in the nine months we spent together. and that was because of her, and

now that she's gone i'm so thankful she is who she was so i'll have these pictures forever. these memories will be everlasting and that is what is keeping us and her family together right now. >> as you said, we often struggle to talk about people and say alison in the present tense. >> she's right here with me right now in the present tense. and a memory as amazing as hers and adam's, too, we loved adam. >> you were a team. >> and we loved alison. they worked together every single day. this is unconscionable. it's happened to two of us. it's happened to two of us. >> it happens too often to too many. and you're dealing with it as a news family, personally and with her family. and the same questions always come up and the search is always for those answers, always hard in the moment. but thank you for sharing your love. >> thank you. >> and for allowing us to know what made alison so special. much more than how she lost her life. >> we are -- her family is interested in making changes to prevent these types of things from happening ever again.

they also along with i are very much interested in promoting two scholarships already recreated in her name. patrick henry community college down in henry where she got college credit in governor school and high school. she already was working on an associated degree while still in high school. they have created memorial scholarship in her name and at james madison university where she loved to go to college. she was in a sorority, her sorority sisters have a broken heart right now. they immediately created an alison parker scholarship fund for those in the school of media arts and design. she was so proud to be a grad. and now she will have a legacy. we will carry on her legacy and she will be remembered far and wide. >> chris hurst, thank you so much. >> thank you, sir. >> i appreciate it it. i know this is not a conversation easy to have but

thanks for making everybody understand. >> it is easy to have when you love talking about somebody. i love talking about her. >> hold on to that, it is much needed now as ever. we know your stage manager is here holding you together here through this. and we want to talk to him about what made her better than you in the first place. no, i'm kidding. >> i will admit it. >> jeff has been in my life before i even came to this station. we know each other through a mutual friend, a mentor of my at the college where i went to school, and this is -- this has been an incredibly difficult ordeal that we have had to simultaneously keep our journalist hats on and take them off to show our human side, too. >> it's okay to take them off when something hits this close to home and is this human. you said to me yesterday, something i'll never forget when you said, the way you honor the

legacy is by doing the news. >> just doing the news. >> and you said yesterday was the worst day. and i'm sure last night was something that you're hopefully quick to want to get past. >> we are not going to get past this, chris. it was the worst day of the career for everybody here. we have people who started last week, you know -- what career have i gotten myself into in i want to say something and maybe chris spoke to this, we are outraged that any of the comments of that manifesto are taken the least bit seriously. the idea that alison noticed the street name and that was sort of a racial slur is just absurd to us as we investigate in this. she was just not the kind of person for whom that could have been possible. and the man admitted in the manifesto he was off his rocker.

he used other terms than that. and i just think it needs to be recognized that any threat or credibility in that manifesto or anything else said in the filing or what have you is nonsense. >> you are in the unfortunate position of being able to examine why in a way we usually don't as journalists because it doesn't make as much sense or have as much value to you because of what you have lost and what it means to you personally, but what do we do with a moment like this in terms of wanting to understand why it happened? is there any value in that? >> yes, of course there is. because maybe we can affect something or change something. one of the parents was talking about -- >> wanting to deal with the access of weapons to people who have a disturbance, but it is very hard to decide who that is and when it is. >> that's a debate we should be

having, always. one of the issues that was brought up is how do we protect journalists? well, we can't send guards out with journalists on every story. >> and this was a completely unforeseeable event. it was a piece on a 50th anniversary of a reservoir. >> how do we deal with mental issues? i'm sure chris has talked to you about that. we have proven ourselves as a society willing and ineffective in a lot of ways in dealing with mental illness. >> do you see these things differently now? you have been in the business a long time, you have dealt with the questions and they come up all the time. >> we have covered these issues in our news. and i have covered them myself as a journalist over the years, so i see them more acutely. >> i do think that one thing is happening here that is helpful. we often see in these situations that the reaction of the community and of the loved ones cancels out the feelings about the darkness that created the

tragedy. when you see what happened here with your community, when you hear young people who have such adepth inside of them like chris to talk about alison and adam, what hope does that give you? >> it gives me hope serving the community with a tornado warning or dire news that we had yesterday, we definitely hope there is a relationship here, which we know those who provide the news, especially locally and those who need to hear it and receive it, it gives me hope that our people, when they cover the news, they will have the support of the community as they have before. and maybe greater. it gives me hope that journalists will work even harder to honor the memories of alison and adam. >> you should take a measure of solace in the fact that this is not one of those situations

where those who were lost are overshadowed by the man who took them away. these two have been remembered strong and immediately and that will hopefully help the families, including the news family. mr. marks, thank you. >> thank you. >> you have been tireless in putting out the right word about what this means as journalists and as human beings. and i wish you the best for the whole family. >> thank you. >> mr. marks, thank you very much. alyson, this has been a tough 24 hours for these people here. and remember, for those covering it, the story happens and then time allows you to move on. for the families, for the news family, this is only just beginning. >> chris, i've never seen anything quite like that interview that you just did with alison's fiance, chris hurst, he was so well spoken yet profound. and he gave us such intimate insight into what alison was

like. and he makes all of us wish we had known her and know him better. i mean, those are special people there, including the general manager that you just spoke to. we talk about this so often, chris, there has to be an answer to this. and it seems as though the journalists down there are committed to figuring out how to change this rather quickly. >> i don't know, alyson, i think that's hopeful and the way to be, that there's an optimism about change. but when we're at so many of these and so many different communities and see so many different families affected and the questions stay the same, and the debate seems stuck in some type of misplaced ideological cement on both sides, it makes you wonder where the solution lies. but i will tell you this, getting to know chris and understand his love for alison, the expression it is better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all is often

trite but true, but here it is just true. and that young man had something in his life that very few people ever have. and he's aware of that and will cherish it. and it will help him and the families know what they had in these two young people and they were special. and now they know the community felt it as well. and we just hope that that helps them. because again, this is just day one of the rest of their lives dealing without the people who mattered most. >> yeah, we felt it. i mean, we felt it in that interview. and nobody could communicate it better than chris hurst. chris, we'll get back to you momentarily and have much more of the continuing coverage of the tragic shooting deaths of that young reporter and her cameraman. but first, we have other news to tell you about. there are other surprising results in the national poll of the 2016 race. you talk about joe biden and the position he's in and whether he's in a better position than the perceived frontrunner, hillary clinton. we'll get into all of that. did you know that good nutrition

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welcome back to "new day." we'll go back to roanoke for more on the murders of two journalists, but we have other news to tell you about. donald trump is widening his lead in the latest quinnipiac poll. and on the democratic side, there are concerns for hillary clinton. let's talk about this as we are joined from greenville, south carolina, this morning. m.j., give us the latest. >> reporter: yet another poll showing trump is the clear front-runner in the republican field. the new quinnipiac poll out this morning has trump at 28%. that's up from 20% in a previous poll last month. falling behind him is ben carson at 12% whose number has also seen a boost from 6% last month. and then we have a couple of candidates who are in the 6% to

7% range, jeb bush, ted cruz, marco rubio and scott walker. on the democratic side, not the best news for hillary clinton. she's still leading the democratic pack but her number has fallen from last month from 55% to 45%. bernie sanders and joe biden, meanwhile, their numbers have picked up since last month. and it's clear, alyson, that hillary clinton continues to struggle with a problem she's had for a while, which is that people perceive her to be not honest or trustworthy. six in ten people say they do not believe she can be trusted or is honest. two things to point out about donald trump's numbers. first is that when people were asked whether they believed trump is good on women's issues and cares about women's issues, six in ten people said no. meanwhile, asked if trump would be able to handle adequately an

international crisis as president, some 64% also answered no. so two potential problem areas for donald trump we're looking out for. before i go, i'll leave you with one final observation from the poll, and that is that joe biden in a general election would perform better than hillary clinton against some of the top republican contenders including trump, bush and rubio. so another thing to sort of see that with the joe biden speculation heading into the rest of the week. >> m.j., you have given us a lot of good stuff to analyze, so we'll do that with our cnn political commentator and anchor for new york one, harold lewis. and editorial director ron brownstein. gentlemen, thank you for being here. >> good morning. >> herald, let's start with the headlines. donald trump is at the highest point he's been in the race so far at 28%. can he do no wrong? >> well, i don't know if that's the right question. i mean, the real question,

alyson, is what is going on with the rest of the candidates when talking to their donors? to the extend of a horse race, this is what it looks like at the track, you're coming into the first turn pretty early, but the donors are thinking, look, i wrote a big check. what's happening, mr. rubio? when are you going to start to show up if you're out there with this compelling message? >> ron, we'll talk about what's happening with mr. carson and mr. bush because they have switched positions. ben carson has leapfrogged over jeb bush. ben carson is now at 12%. jeb bush is at 7%. last month they were in different positions when jeb bush had 10%. he's now going down. while ben carson has doubled his support. what do you see here? >> alyson, this poll could be a house ad for the next cnn debate in september, the republican debate. because it tells you this early in the race with 25 million people watching the debate, you get a lot of movement based on performance. and jeb bush and scott walker who lost a lot of ground

previously thought about in the top tier was lackluster and had lifeless performances. and ben carson and donald trump were the best reviewed along with carly fiorina and you see a lot of movement. on one hand, we're too early, especially in the polls going on but it does show that this is based on performances in these debates. >> the debates do move the numbers.

>> trump has strong emotions. we still like the guy and his attractors feel the same way. >> he does elicit strong feelings but let's look at those. these are how republicans feel about trump versus bush, okay? and as you can see, let's see, trump is purple. he actually loses in terms of how they perceive. he's on every single -- in terms of his temperament, how he feels about you, who is a big leader? what do you think? >> i think this is very significant. donald trump has touched a nerve. and it is possible that he will be the candidate in the end that conservatives in the party go around. but when you look at the assessments in the personal characteristics, it's another piece of evidence that this big

challenge will move from beyond that to a broad enough coalition. as we talked about before in the mornings here, ultimately to win the nomination in the big states as the race winnows next spring, you have to get to 45% of the vote. that's the challenge for donald trump in my many of the blue leading states like illinois, california and new york and still have a big impact on the republican nomination. so these personal characteristics are kind of a warning sign that despite the intensity of the support, the breath may still be a challenge in the end. >> let's talk about the democratic side of this in the quinnipiac poll finding hillary clinton still in the lead. however, the margin is narrowing. she's now at 45%. a month ago she was at 55%. bernie sanders is from 17% to 22%. >> clinton clearly has closed the deal. there's a number of democratic voters, frankly more than not, not comfortable with this. the question is, this is key. when the question is asked if

the election were held today, would you vote for hillary clinton. and most democrats are saying no. and that doesn't mean never but it means not right now. so she's got work to do. >> ron, quickly, we'll look at people's feelings about hillary clinton versus joe biden who is considering getting into the race. hillary clinton is in purple. she wins every category with leaders and who cares most about you, who has a bad temperament, except for honesty with joe biden winning. >> you saw a different tone from hillary clinton on the e-mail controversy saying it was a mistake in judgment. sometimes in a tug of war the leverage goes with the person who drops the rope. and i think they are hoping that by acknowledging a mistake in judgment, they basically put this in a different context. this is not the career, it was a mistake. she's saying it's not the totality of who i am and the sole career defining move. 64% of democrats say she's honest. clearly what they have been doing hasn't been working and they need to put this in a different frame and i thought her remarks were important in

pointing her in how to do that. >> that was a different tone. ron, herald, thank you for the analysis. coming up next half hour, we'll speak live to donald trump happening at 7:30 eastern. in the meantime, we'll go back to chris who is live for us in roanoke. hi, chris. >> reporter: you know, being president of the united states is not just about politics, many jobs, one of them is unfolding on the ground right here. what would the man who wants to be president do in a situation like this? we'll talk to mr. trump about it. up next, not everybody was taken yesterday. there's a survivor of the roanoke shooting. her name is vick gardner. she was hit in the back and rushed into surgery and she made it. her husband joins us live next when "new day" continues. imagine - she won't have to remember passwords.

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. tributes pour in this morning for the reporters shot and killed live in roanoke, virginia. alison parker and adam ward both shot by a coworker. the man claims the charleston church shooting is what sent him over the edge. adam ward's fiancee was a station producer and alison parker was living with a coworker. and officers were taken down in louisiana. this is the second law enforcement death in louisiana in less than a week. well, here's some good financial global news for you. shanghai composite index rebounding this morning. it closed up 5.3% from the biggest one-day gain in eight

weeks. chinese stocks have been collapsing for months sending global markets into panic mode. european stocks also pointing north. and here in the u.s., stock futures climbing. we could see wednesday's rally continue today. well, tropical storm erika is churning out in the atlantic and bearing down on the caribbean. could it strengthen to a hurricane with its sights set on florida this weekend? we'll go to meteorologist chad meyers. what do our viewers in florida need to know, chad? >> that the model has kept turning this storm back out to the ocean. so a couple days ago this was aimed right at miami, then daytona and now it's headed offshore. there are still warnings for the caribbean, yes, for puerto rico, the u.s. virn virgin islands and turks and caicos. they will get hit with a category 1 storm. this will eventually move up near the carolinas, we'll see. overnight this thing got a whole lot stronger. now it is a 50-mile-per-hour storm. but the water here really isn't

that warm yet. when this thing gets into the bahamas area, when it finally gets into this warm iraer air a warmer water, that's where it could gain hurricane strength. it will be moving in to that area very close this weekend. >> thank you, chad. let's go back to chris. we are still here in roanoke, virginia. and we are monitoring a national election, a lot of the issues there talked about in the hypothetical, but we are asking donald trump what he thinks we should do in situations like this. and we want to remember not everybody was taken in this execution yesterday on live television. vicky gardner is alive and recovering. and she was being interviewed on live television when the bullets started to fly. we'll have her husband talk about this, what it means to her and him when "new day" continues.

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the sun is now up and we are in roanoke, virginia. the chamber of commerce executive was shot in the back and rushed to the hospital and went through surgery. we are happy to hear that vicky gardner is doing better this morning. how is she doing this morning? >> she is doing okay. she will have some corrective surgeries. >> it is hard to believe that

what we are going through that you are the lucky ones. >> yes, that is unfortunate. >> how did you hear what happened to your wife yesterday morning? >> i watched it. >> you were watching the tv? >> uh-huh. >> what did you think? >> well, i was rather surprised and stunned. i was able to talk to her while she was being transported to the hospital. but there was no way i could get down to where she was, so i waited and worried. >> did you know the extent of her injuries? >> when she called me, she said she was shot in the back earn lucky to be alive. >> she was a i believe to talk to you. >> a strong woman. >> actually, she walked to the ambulance. >> a strong woman. as this continues over the days to come for sure, about why did this happen, how do you make sense of it? >> there's no making sense of

it. obviously, a very disturbed individual wanted to take out his former coworkers. just a senseless deed. and my wife happened to be there at the wrong time. >> what is she looking at going forward, have they told you? >> she has a long recovery. >> but the good news is she was able to walk and talk right after, that has to be promising. >> that was very promising considering they told me the bullet grazed her spine. >> how is she dealing with what happened? >> i haven't been able to speak with her since she was in the operation, in the surgery yesterday they kept her sedated. >> what are you doing with all of this? 24 hours, probably the oddest 24 hours of your life, what are you telling yourself? >> that i'm glad she's alive. >> and what does that mean to you? obviously you always have an appreciation when tragedy hits you that you didn't have before. what does this bring you? >> well, i can't wait to go sailing with her. >> is that one of the things you

enjoy. >> uh-huh. >> she was representing the chamber of commerce in the 50th anniversary of the reservoir. tell us about her. what does this mean to her? why does she do it? >> well, she's been the executive director of the chamber for 13 to 14 years. we moved here 30 years ago and it's really her best retirement job that she's ever had. so i would say that's -- she was very lucky. >> she is very lucky. in the land of the unlucky, she's very lucky, obviously, what has happened to her is incredibly unfortunate. now you have to live through this entire event in how big it is and how significant it is. what have you taken from what you have seen in the last 24 hours? >> well, our friends and our smith lake family have been supportive and have reached out in a number of ways. and the only thing i would like to say is that the community is

not a community where things like this happen. and the best way to -- for all of us to heal is to get out on the lake and enjoy it. >> enjoy your life, live your life. that's what it is about, not the fear that one day gave you. what else do you want people to know about your life? >> i really just want us to go back into anonymity. >> well, this is a horrible thing to have, but for you it will pass. your wife will heal. and you'll get to move on together. and i guess that's what will help you through the hardest parts. >> sure. >> well, let me tell you, you have a strong wife on your hands as she walked and talked after getting shot like that in this situation. and i hope that carries her through quickly what she has to deal with going forward so she gets back on the lake. who is the better sailor? >> well, me. >> i will try to edit that out. too late, live television. i hope you take solace in the

fact that she will make it through it. appreciate you being with us. alyson, back to you. a lot of people have been coming up saying, i want to help and do something. they can go to cnn.com/impact and figure out how to help the situation down here. >> that's a great reminder, chris. we'll go back to you momentarily. we also want to talk about what the 23-page suicide note revealed about this unhinged former coworker who gunned down the two tv journalists in roanoke. cnn has obtained a copy of this note. and we will look through it for clues as to what drove him to this cold-blooded killing. were there red flags that could have been stopped and could be stopped in the future? we'll analyze all of that.

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amazing lives were extinguished yesterday. she's the love of my life. she only turned 24 a month ago, and yet she lived a great life. >> this world was robbed. >> the number of people who die from gun-related incidents around this country dwarfs the deaths that happen through terrorism. >> if guns were not so readily available, maybe we could prevent this kind of carnage. >> it's not the guns, it's the people. >> presidential hopeful donald trump weighs in. good morning. welcome to your "new day." alyson is in new york. we are live in roanoke, virginia. the community rallying around its news family. cnn affiliate wdbj, a growing

memorial behind paying tribute to two journalists executed on live television. right now the morning show alison parker and adam ward worked on is paying tribute to their colleagues. the pair killed by a disgruntled employee and all of it playing out on live television. family and friends left with the difficult task of remembering, not with sadness, remembering the warmth that they embodied. why is the question? hear the murderer's words paint a detail. as the sun rises in roanoke, two faces that said good morning to virginians are gone. >> alison parker and adam ward were part of our family here at the station and many of you told us they were part of your morning as well. >> 24-year-old alison parker and 27-year-old adam ward executed by a former employee fired two

years ago. vester flanagan known by his tv name bryce williams killed the journalists while live on air recording video of himself carrying out the executions. while on the run posting those videos online, going on a twitter rant, saying, quote, alison made racist comments and adam went to h.r. after working with me one time. by the afternoon, the murderer had shot and killed himself. but before confirmation of his death, wdbj's general manager sharing his anguish on air. >> i'm going to step out of my role as a former journalist and say i'm not really sure whether i want him to live and die. if he dies, then he took the coward's way out. >> this shooter's rambling suicide notes, 23 pages long was sent to abc news. he complained that years of bullying at former workplaces including wdbj drove him to violence. he also wrote, quote, what sent me over the top was the charleston church shooting and my hallow point bullets have the

victims' initials on them. a picture of the murderer's anger emerging in a video captured just last month showing him in a bout of road rage. >> and you're still [ bleep ]. >> okay, are you finished? >> i've been finished. you followed me here. >> what is going through your mind when you see him in the parking lot and get out in the. >> a lot of things. i got in my vehicle quickly so i wouldn't be in a cage with someone aggressively following me and i was pretty much making a b-line to the store to population, really, to sort of have some other people around because he was obviously not in the right mind. >> in an interview with fox news, alison's father says this is a problem he's now dedicating his life to solving. >> we've got to do something about crazy people getting guns. this is something that is alison's legacy that i want to make happen. >> and that's part of what makes it a difficult balance in these stories. you want to forget who created this violence.

you want to not focus on their motivations and yet you want to see if there's some window into why this could help being stopped from happening the next time. here we have the emerging picture of the killer on a rampage. he sent his explanation directly to abc news. cnn obtained a copy of this extensive suicide note. we'll go to senior correspondent brian stelzer who sees what is in it for all of us. >> reporter: abc says they handed over this document to investigators and the authorities are looking into it and pursuing it. we can share some of the details with you. we know his past employment is a teen model, male escort. he didn't spend long in any market. and his personal life describes him as a gay black man. he was discriminated against he says. he suffered injustices over time and he praised other killers

like the virginia tech killer. this is a quote from the suicide note, what sent me over the top was the church shooting and my hallow point bullets have the victims' initials on them. it should be noted that the church shooting took place on june 17th and i put down a deposit for firearms on june 19th. this suggests a two-month window from that time up until the time of the shooting yesterday. we know that he was planning this throughout. he had a twitter account, renting a car, et cetera. this is the scariest point of all from the suicide note, this is the most disturbing, my anger has been building steadily. i've been a human powder keg for a while just waiting to go boom at any moment. chris, i know you're seeing it there, local tv newsrooms shaken up by this, and yet going back on the air this morning doing their jobs every day there in roanoke and across the country. >> it's true, brian. everybody has a job to do, but now it is about more than a job.

this is a hail of senseless violence and bullets. let's go live to victor now. >> reporter: friends and loved ones were remembering these two, but also the viewers. this was the morning team. we know that the local morning news becomes part of the daily routine. and now the viewers are learning more about the a-team. >> everybody that she touched loved her. and she loved everybody back. >> reporter: this morning family members in a community are left reeling, grieving the loss of a newly-engaged cameraman and aspiring anchor with so much life left to live. >> she was extremely happy. and she loved this guy with all of her heart.

and that's the toughest thing for me. >> reporter: colleagues say 27-year-old adam ward and 24-year-old alison parker were unfailingly positive, relentlessly hard working and never shied away from a story. >> adam, come out from in front of the camera. >> reporter: both parker and ward began as interns at the station eventually becoming a team as stack reporter and photographer for the morning show. >> i am a virginia girl. >> she had aspirations of being an anchor and have no doubt she would have accomplished that goal. >> reporter: the 24-year-old was a rising star appearing on cnn last november. >> thank you so much alison parker from wdbj there in roanoke. >> she had an explosive personality. she always smiled. she was full of ideas. >> parker had been dating chris hurst and just moved in with him. she was the most radiant woman i ever met he posted on social

media. and for some reason she loved me back. adam ward, news 7 sports. >> ward was engaged to the show's producer supposed to be celebrating her last day at the station thursday. instead, she watched in horror in the control room as her future husband was gunned down. later on that same day, her wedding dress was delivered. a symbol of love and commitment to ward for a lifetime shattered by this similar act of violence. chris talked to wdbj members this morning, and one posted this overnight, i moved to roanoke back in january and feel like you were all part of my family. so we're seeing this not just happening here in roanoke but it is resonating around the world as people are hearing more about these two.

>> and certainly that's a measure of solace for those going through this grief. thank you for that. very often the best thing to do is to understand what was left and who was lost. and this morning we have the gift here to speak to alison's boyfriend. he told us what alison was all about. i know last night was very tough. how are you doing? how is the family? >> her family remains strong. i am trying to find the strength that i have in front of me. she told me all the time that she loved me to the ends of the earth and felt safe with me. and i just -- i sam so saddened

that there was nothing that could have been done to keep her safe yesterday. i truly believe that. >> what are you taking solace in right now? you know you had a special love in your life, you know you had time with her, i know you're clutching to that. >> now that she was taken from this world, i think this is for everyone. some of the pictures we had together. we made it for our six-month anniversary. she made it for me and wrote love notes to me saying for the next few months to fill in all the pictures here. and it's a story that is something that i was privileged and honored to have had for only nine months. it is not a long relationship but we wanted to get married. she was celebrating her birthday with me and a special friend at her parents.

and there is a place where we were white water rafting where she said that's where she wanted to get married to me. the manner in which he took adam and alison's life shouldn't be the focus of this story. the focus should be on two amazing lives extinguished yesterday for no good reason. and i now join so many thousands of other americans who cannot explain why their loved ones were taken from them. and when you ask me how i'm doing, i can't explain why either. i have no idea how i'm doing. >> of course, for chris and the other family members and loved ones, this is just the first day of dealing with their loss. and these two people were young but special. they had a lot of promise. and they were certainly taken too soon. someone who knew them is robert denton, the head of the communications department at

virginia tech. alison parker and adam ward -- you know what it looks like when it comes to this kind of tragedy. what did you see? >> i saw an incredible team. they actually really enjoy working with each other and were a realtime. almost a brother/sister relationship. adam, i tell you what, he was always so positive and worked really hard. he would pull cable for a mile. i remember standing there when he said, you have a weird hair coming out over here. he was so passionate and loved sports and loved to talk about politics and anything in hoake.

she was ambitious and wanted to prepare and be ready. she was doing a political story, sometimes she would call me and say, i want to make sure i understand this and get it wrong. th >> we hope the families are here and taking in what seems to be the truth. and that's that 24, 27, is just too soon. that's the first chapter in the life for so many, but they did many things with their lives. and you believe they ended up winning their passion. >> absolutely. they would go to different events and cover it and being so positive. as somebody who has been in this, from the beginning of their career, being excited to do what they were born to do.

it relates back to me in the classroom and it just absolutely breaks my heart. >> one of the reasons we want people to know who was lost is because maybe it's the best medicine in a situation like this in maybe moving an unsettled soul to not want to take this kind of path like we saw with this madman. when you think about what you lived through at virginia tech, to see it again, does this make you feel like this is just a cycle we can't break? >> i hope not to get there and it is difficult not to. having gone through the general check experience, it could be set to geography but it just breaks your heart to see this. no matter what is going on, it is such senseless. it is so sad, and in fact, it

may not be about you but about your community and the loved ones. >> eight years since virginia tech, i was there and covered it. i remember the question being, why couldn't we have known more about this killer's past. and everybody says, this could be the turning point and here we are today with the same questions. where does that leave us? >> somewhat bewildered. i think there have been improvements to come from virginia's mental health. i do not want to get into policy because that's not my specialty or norm. but i think awareness as a society, we need to continue looking at the processing aspects of it and you need to

have the national discussion. >> absolutely. >> i wish i had known them other than this, but thank you for helping us to understand them better. >> appreciate it. >> obviously we do those stories so there can be more awareness and more of a national dialogue. he's right, we do need to talk about mental health and violence. and we so often talk about what -- why weren't there red flags? obviously, if anyone is watching us and feeling angry or like a ticking time baomb. it is their opportunity to reach out their hand to somebody and alert them. >> i think you're posing the right questions and right concerns. it's a test of a society with how they deal with these types

of problems that keep popping up says everything. the reminder on one level is what you just said, hopefully people remember what is lost in these situations and maybe a step closer to creating one. >> we'll have much more on the continuing coverage of the tragic shooting death in virginia. but we also have news to tell you about including an interesting new national poll to show donald trump in familiar territory. he's out in front in the republican presidential race at his highest watermark yet. coming up, we'll talk to donald trump.

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welcome back to "new day." we'll go back to roanoke, virginia, for more on the murders of two journalists but we do have other news to tell you about. donald trump widening his lead in the latest quinnipiac poll. on the democratic side, new concerns for hillary clinton. we'll bring in former political director for george w. bush matt schlap, and we have mercedes

schlap here. this new poll hot off the presses shows donald trump at the highest numbers yet. he's at 28% here, matt, and ben carson is second and flipped positions with jeb bush who is now third. so it looks like despite any controversial comments donald trump makes, despite a feud with fox news or univision, his numbers keep growing. how do you explain it, matt? >> throw away the rule book. everything we have learned in politics about running for president is being recast. the american people have a different way that they absorb news and learn about the candidates. and the change in which we watch television, everything else, where things are unscripted and upon stains you as come to the presidential race. and for donald trump, it's the perfect moment for him. >> the next question is, who

would you not support as a gop nominee? the republicans were asked and they say donald trump. explain the fickleness here. >> it shows we have a party divided. quite frankly, you have those that they call the establishment, more moderate republicans. with obviously having to do amongst several moderate type candidates. then you have the more conservative republicans, which again, we have 16 candidates running. so with such a broad field, it's like the seconds are in the grocery store. so it does make for a very complicated situation for the gop primary. >> i do want to stick with you for a second because i want to show you the exchange happened between jorge ramos and one of donald trump's supporters. i want to ask you about this because you know jorge ramos. this happened during the time

when jorge a most was tossed out and cooling his heels before being head back in. but he got into a testy exchange. watch this moment. >> that's pretty rude, it's not about you. get out. >> i'm a u.s. citizen. >> ever what. univision, no, it's not about you. >> it's not about you but it's about the united states. >> mercedes, he says -- >> he's a u.s. residue of what donald trump has been saying? >> emotions are high, especially in the immigration issue. when looking at this debate and how everyone is approaching it, when a stunning is not that common. you have reporters that are raising their hand, just like in

the classroom, then it is your turn. and many have had the exchange with donald trump, but i think this is why the issue of immigration reform has not been resolved for decades. and again, if we are at this point in our count industry where finding, it's an -- many believe they are a voice for the millions of latinos who are undocumented in the countries. >> it has been a winning issue thus far for donald trump with his poll numbers going up. but when we get to the general election, doesn't he need to court hispanic voters? >> absolutely. republicans have done a very good job of not winning the popular vote recently in presidential elections. and we're going to have to expand our coalition and do better with non-white voters in order to do it consistent with our beliefs.

and the democrats will be a little on the defensive here because there's a huge problem with the fact that president obama has let loose so many illegals. we'll never get to the next step, which is really modern idsizing and revolutionizing immigration. i'm married to someone who is a first generation american. this is important for our country to get this right, but we have to get through the really difficult steps first. >> we will be talking about what the new poll numbers say about the democratic field as well in our upcoming segment. thank you so much for being here. >> reporter: also in moments we'll speak to donald trump live and get his reaction to what is happening in roanoke and politics. stick around, that's next. er.

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we welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. donald trump is holding on to the republican lead. his closest competitor is just in the double digits. thank you for joining us. >> good morning, chris. >> you have seen the news, what do you think of what was happening here? >> i thought about canceling our phone call, but it's very sad. really sad commentary on life, frankly. >> i think it's maybe more important to have you today than ever. because leadership isn't just about the trail as you know. it's about moments like this. the consoler and chief is one of the jobs of the president. what would you say to the people

down here about how to make sense of this and how to make it better? >> well, they are amazing people. i know the area. and the people are amazing. and the reaction of the colleagues and the station has been really incredible. and it's very inspiring to watch. this was a very sick man. and it's just too bad that we can't figure these things out beforehand. i mean, everybody sees the signals but nobody thinks a thing like this could happen. it's all over the place. they see people and they think they are disturbed but what are you going to do, put them in jail for the rest of their life? put him in jail for the rest of his life because he looks a little off? and he turned out to be very off. there was tremendous hatred and animosity. i guess there were lawsuits and litigation on all sorts of things with him. and he just blew up. he knew he was going to blow up, too, based on his -- based on his memos and notes. he was saying that he's going to blow up. unfortunately, nobody saw that. and even if they did, what would you do? you would say, oh, he's going to

blow up. you probably hear that all the time but in this case it happened. too bad we can't figure it out beforehand but it's a pretty tough thing to do. >> that's where you come in and others like you who want to be president. the questions are familiar as to why the issues wind up getting us stuck, what do you do about mental illness. what do we do about guns? what is your position? >> mental illness is just a massive problem. as you know, because of the cutbacks, and you can see it in new york state, you know very well in new york state and so many other places, they have released a lot of the people that are pretty ill that should be hospitalized because they don't have the money to take care of them. and so they walk the streets and they run the streets and in the old days they had mental institutions for people like this. because he was definitely borderline and would have been and should have been institutionalized at some point.

i wish people closest to him would have seen it, but people are being released now because they don't have any money. so they are walking the streets. and of all our cities and all of our places, it's becoming a very dangerous situation. and it's another problem. it's one of many problems our country has, as you know covering this every day, chris, but it's one of the problems that we have. >> solutions winds up becoming the call from people who are so sick and tired of what they see. do you think it is time to do something else about guns? nobody likes to talk about it. this is an inappropriate time and for those who experience it say it's the most necessary and important. >> we have had guys shot recently, had they had weapons, they might have been able to

save themselves. they would have been able to, they were all heroes and tremendous military men. and they had absolutely no defense. and frankly, you know, a case like this, he snuck up on them, whether it was a gun or a knife or whatever it would have been, it would have been something. but you're not going to get rid of all guns. so i know one thing, if you try to do it, the bad guys would have them. you would abide by the law and it would be a hopeless situation for them. and i'm a very much second amendment person, chris, and i know the arguments both ways very well, but i'm very much into the second amendment. you need protection. now, you also have entertainment and you have all sorts of activities and all of that, but taking that out of the picture, most -- guns are used for recreational purposes, like people play golf and like people play other things, and hunting, but beyond that, in terms of

safety, if you're sitting there in the cabin some place and somebody walks in with a gun, i tell you what, i would rather be in the place with the gun and not the gun, i can tell you that. i'm a strong second amendment person. >> i guess what we're struggling with is what that means, you're a second amendment man and strong on that, should it be easier for people to get guns? it sounds counter intuitive to so many people, but is that what you're suggesting? >> i think right now in theory if you go right now it is not that easy for a lot of people. a lot of people have to go through the process. we'll look at chicago with the tremendous gun problems with gangs, many are illegal immigrants to get onto another subject. but in chicago you have a tremendous amount of shootings.

in baltimore you have a tremendous amount of shootings. tough is what we need in the united states, yet people are getting killed all the time. certain areas of chicago are phenomenal places, but in certain areas of chicago you have people killed all the time with guns. and they have, by far, the toughest gun laws in the country. so it's not just a question of the laws, it's really the people. >> if you are going to deal with the people, that takes us back to the issue of mental health and what we do about it, how we empower families like you were mentioning earlier who know that they have someone in their lives with a problem and can't do anything about it. you have representative tim murphy who has a bill to address that. it's getting a hard time getting traction in wrong answers.

>> i don't know the specifics, but tim is a good man. i have seen him numerous times talking about the this. the mental health aspect of it, and the one that really enjoys this is the person -- this is really hard for the families. and i guarantee there were a couple people who knew this man that did the killing yesterday and said, wow, he's really got problems and should be institutionalized. because this doesn't just happen. this really doesn't just happen. every time you have one of these events, whether it's the high school or movie theaters. they go into the background of these people that do the

shooting. and people that do them and were close to them, you know, 59% of the time they say -- 95% of the time say they, i really can understand how that happened. he was off the edge. you can say that about a lot of people who lead productive lives, so it's a very complex situation. a very, very sad situation. when you look at what happened here and you look at the two people that were shot at. and the third woman who i think is going to be okay based on your reports, right? >> yes, that's what we hear. vicki gardner is going to make it. she was lucky in this situation where everybody was obviously unlucky. a lot of these problems are complex and that's the demand for leadership and solutions. that's changing how we deal with mental health, is that something you commit to taking on in a different way, in a way that points us towards a better set of laws and guidelines than we have right now.

would that be a priority for you, sir? >> i think they should be focusing on that instead of guns. they should be talking about mental health because there are so many things to be done. and really detection, you have to be able to see. and you know very well as you are in new york and look at what is happening at so many of the hospitals closing up, this is not new york but all over the country. in some areas they closed up the mental hospitals. and people would literally be in these hospitals and yet care in one form or another. and at least the public was safe. and now what they did is in order to save costs, they closed the mental hospitals and you have people on the streets like this gentleman that are a disaster. a disaster to the public. and as long as you have that, you're always going to have these problems. and honestly, you're probably -- it's life, it's the world and i'm sure this has been happening

for thousands of years. sometimes you can't do anything about it. you have seen somebody go unhinged, but i have seen plenty of people that look pretty sick, frankly, but nobody is said over the years and nothing has happened with any of those peop people. it's a very hard thing to determine. >> we look forward to seeing what you come up with for proposals to make this situation better. you opportunity to do that would be as president in its full exercise. we have polls here to suggest that you have a better shot than anybody in the gop right now to be the nominee. what do you take from the newest polls? >> well, i'm honored by it. you're the first one to have told me that. i see we have gone up today to

south carolina where we have phenomenal people. and i just left new hampshire and iowa. i was at the state fair and beyond. we had an amazing evening there, too. and it's been incredible what is going on. the alabama single -- the crowd was incredible and the energy. these are people that say, what are they all like and what are the people like? because i get the standing ovations, you have seen it, they just want to make america great again, which is our theme. i mean, that's what i want to do. i want to make america great again. and they heed getting elected. all they want to care about is getting elected and not make a decision to hurt them in their upcoming elections. and they are really leading our country down the tubes. so i see the response i get.

i'm still looking forward to north carolina today, but going tennessee soon, we have a big auto plant taken out of tennessee and moving to mexico. a plant that was supposed to be built in the u.s. is now moving to mexico, which is outrageous. i am honored by the polls but i'm not that surprised to see it. and jeb bush is a nice man but not bringing you to the promised land. i see others and am impress iin this on them. we will get them there. >> your emphasizing the positive, that's an important thing to do when campaigning and you have to deal with the potential negatives. many of the polls show six in ten women don't believe you

represent them on their issues. you have 64% in that poll that are not willing to vote for republicans. how do you understand those negatives? >> i understand that if somebody else likes another candidate, they may not like what i'm saying about that candidate and understand that. the women i'll do great with because i cherish women. my daughter evanka and my wife say to talk more about the women issues. bush came out about funding for that and i will show you that i care to women. that's going to be a very strong point. i actually think when it comes down to even the hispanics, i'm

going to create jobs and take jobs from china and other people stealing our lunch and everything that we have. just taking this -- i'm a big free trader but we need smart people lined up. i have the smartest people working for me. we have a lot of things planned. one of the things we have to do is make our country rich again so we can make it great again. because look, we have to rebuild the infrastructure. china has been building roads and tunnels and bridges and airports and so has everyone else that deals with us. and we are dying but now it is like a third world airport.

you go to dubai and china and see airports the likes of which you have never seen. >> well, let's combine the issue of immigration and the issue of cherishing women. they seem to take the embodiment of two journalists right now, one you want to cherish, and you think, why did i go after jorge ramos? >> first of all, i didn't go after jorge ramos. he was at a news conference and started screaming like a madman. when they show the whole clip, you will understand. he was very rude, very loud and act noxious. and i had picture men here --

that was not a question he was asking. i did not want to recognize him because the news conference was packed as was the speech packed. it was packed. the crowd was amazing the other night. >> it was a big crowd. >> i don't think -- i know i did the right thing. he was rude and on obnoxious. and i did take control. unlike bernie sanders, two women took the microphone away from him like he was a baby. i won't let that happen. as far as megyn kelly, i have nothing against her. she's fine as far as i'm concerned, i don't care. >> but you obviously do care, mr. trump, you go out of your way to tweet about her. >> i think she asked me an unfair question at the debate. but the bottom line, if you look at "time" magazine and the

different people that polled in the debate, everybody said i won the debate. so maybe they weren't as bad as i thought. but the fact is i had very, very, i think, unfair questions and other people had very easy questions. but i guess i must have done something right because everybody said i won the gatz. so by the time our dialogue ended with jorge ramos, it was quite pleasant, if you noticed. it got quite pleasant, which was amazing. i let him back in the room and for five minutes we went back and forth, but i thought it was quite pleasant. >> you absolutely did go through it. but these situations are being highlighted about how you deal with people who come at you and whether or not that's the right mode for somebody who wants to be the president, especially with megyn kelly because a lot of people say she was doing her

job, including her boss. and it makes us wonder, would you have dealt with it the same way if that question came from wallace or behar? or was it personal with megyn kelly? >> well, i did the same thing with wallace. >> you haven't called him out that way. >> chris, he came at me pretty hard with another question, which was -- i was very actually happy with the question because i think i cleared it up because people had it, but he came at me with a hard and nasty question and let it be known that was a nasty question. but people don't think i'm as exciting tackling chris wallace, that i did attack but unlike megyn kelly. i wish her a lot of luck. i have absolutely nothing against her. i just thought that the question was unfair. and frankly, it turned out in my

advantage. rosie o'donnell blew the question up in her face. i just got up there, we were not warm and literally just standing through and between that and brent's question, in my opinion, i was being highlighted. it is not just me, even the press said that. and most of the press said that. but i'm -- look, i have other things. i have jobs in my mind, i have making our country great in my mind again. i have lots of other things on my mind. >> that's the point, mr. trump, is that you have so many big issues. i understand that and that's why i draw attention to the fact that you kept that alive, because you do have a lot of important things to talk about.

that's why we have you on "new day." there are a lot of big problems and look forward to your solutions. we appreciate you coming on "new day" to discuss it. and we look forward to it again because how we fix the problems is the only thing to matter in the election. so thank you for joining us, as always. >> thank you very much. great honor, chris, thank you. >> all right. thank you, mr. trump. so we're going to be breaking down the interview we just did with donald trump, what do you hear in his answers that resonates with you positively, negatively or neutral? cnn's john king will do that for you coming up. she'll log in with her smile. he'll have his very own personal assistant. and this guy won't just surf the web. he'll touch it. scribble on it. and share it. because these kids will grow up with windows 10. get started today. windows 10.

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. moments ago we spoke with donald trump. we talked about the tragic shooting of these two journalists in virginia and what he would do about it and how he would struggle with the issues every time this happens, as well as the ongoing feuds that he has

with journalists and what they mean to him and how he feels being atop of the polls. john, there is a cycle to the dialogue that donald trump has. he has his policy points, but the task for him is to apply what he says he wants to do to the situations and prove how. >> it's another fascinating conversation with mr. trump. we have to respect his position in the polls. this new quinnipiac poll has him at 28% among republican nationally. jeb bush now at his low point. trump, then ben carson. republican voters are looking for something different, someone who's not a politician. 24% of evangelicals. 25% of those who describe themselves as very conservative. you asked him first about tragedy. he kept his voice low and somber. but even when you went through

the slissues, much less of an attack on jeb bush. when he attacks the others guys so viciously, he's hurting himself with the voters he wants to get. he's going to need to grow. his adaptability is, to me, one of the fascinating things about mr. trump, including on gun control. you asked him about gun control. he said, no, it's not about guns. in 2000 he wrote a book where he was for the assault weapons ban. he said there should probably be a longer waiting period before you could buy a gun. and he criticized both parties. he said democrats were too beholden to the antigun factions and republicans were too beholden to the nra. >> what do you do about it? you're the president, you're the leader. people are looking for answers. what do you do about violence like we see over and over in

this country. basically he said it's a tough problem. there is no solution. it's been around for thousands of years. that's very untrump-like that he's saying he can't do anything. >> like he says i will tell the chinese to devalue their currency and they will do it. i will tell mexico to pay for the wall and they will do it. yet on this issue, you're right. again, he's running as a republican. and most, especially conservative base republican voters you talk to, they don't view this as a gun problem. they don't view gun control as the answer. contrast that with hillary clinton who was quite forceful yesterday in iowa saying she won't stop pushing for gun control. on this issue again, he was much more of a republican. one thing he didn't do -- he

did. chris drew him out on mental health issues. he said he was open to supporting a significantly greater government role in the mental health area. that's a significant policy d distinction to make. this is much more a community, mit much more a parent, much more a community and faith based issue. >> one thing makes his supporters different -- and i don't know if you two have seen this as well -- is nobody gets defended against questions the way his supporters defend him. when he is questioned, they come at you for questioning him unlike any other candidate, almost as if they feel he doesn't have to explain himself or how he'll do things. just his intentions are enough for them. very unusual. thank you very much for breaking it down for us.

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>> the picture of rage and instability emerging. >> he has tried to create a narrative that i hope everybody quickly, quickly forgets. >> we've got to do something about crazy people getting guns. >> good morning. welcome to your "new day." it is thursday, august 27th, 8:00 in the east. outside cnn affiliate wbdj where locals are coming to pay respects to two young journalists executed on live tv by a former coworker. the morning show brought alison parker and adam ward together every day, paying tribute with a moment of silence this morning. the reporter and her cameraman were killed in a simple act of vengeance. families trying to comfort each

other and this community in the wake of this tragedy. as far as the deceased gunman a rambling letter provides insight into why, in his own mind, this is something he needed to do. here's what we know now. as this sun rises in roanoke, two faces that said good morning to virginians are gone. >> alison parker and adam ward were part of our family here at this station and many of you have told us they were part of yours as well. >> executed by a former employee who was fired from their news station two years ago. vester flanagan, known by his tv name bryce williams killed the journalists live on air, recording video of himself carrying out the executions. while on the run, posting those videos online, going on a twitter rant, saying, quote,

alison made racist comments and adam went to hr on me. wbdj's general manager sharing his anguish on air. >> i'm not really sure whether i want him to live or die. if he dies, then he took the coward's way out. >> rambling suicide note, 23 pages long, sent to abc news. he complained years of bullying drove him to violence. he also wrote, quote, what sent me over the top was the charleston church shooting and my hollow point bullet versus the victim's names on them. showing him in a bout of road rage. >> okay are you finished? >> i've been finished. you followed me here. >> what's going through your

mind? >> i got out of my vehicle quickly so i wouldn't be in a cage with someone aggressively following me. i was making a beeline to the store to have other people around, because he was obviously not in the right mind. >> in an interview with fox news, he says this is a problem. >> we've got to do something about crazy people getting guns. this is alison's legacy that i want to make happen. >> her father obviously heart broken. early this morning i spoke with the young man standing next to him, chris hurst. he's alison's boyfriend. they had been dating about nine months when alison was killed. i know last night had to be very tough. how are you doing? how's the family? >> her family remains strong. i am trying to find the strength

that she always said that i had inside of me. it doesn't feel like i have it right now. but she told me all the time that she loved me to the ends of the effort and that she felt safe with me. and i just -- i am so saddened that there was nothing, chris, that could have been done to keep her safe yesterday. i truly believe that. >> what are you taking solace in right now? you know you had a special love in your life. you know you had time with her. i know you're clutching what is a part of your heart, the memories you had together. >> i know. it's something that was supposed to be for us. but now that she's been taken, i think it's for everyone. some of the pictures we had together. she made it for our sixth month anniversary and wrote love notes for me. it's a love story that i think

it's something that i was privileged and honored to have had for only nine months. it was not a long relationship. but we were betrothed, we wanted to get married. she was set celebrating her birthday. we were white water rafting and that's where she said she wanted to get married to me. the manner in which he took alison and adams life should not be the focus on this story. the focus of the story should be two amazing lived that were extinguished yesterday for no good reason. i join so many thousands of other americans who cannot explain why their loved ones were taken from them. and when you ask me why, i can't explain either. i have no idea how i'm going.

>> does it help that you had something that so many never have in their life? >> it's the only thing that's keeping me going. this is something that i've been in the trenches for as a journalist and alison has had exposure to it as well and adam too. it's surreal. and that's given me strength to share as much of her story as i can. you're right, the love that we had was so rare. and i want everyone out there to know that it is possible to get that love, even if it only lasts for nine months. and that has given me some strength to carry on today. >> what was inside alison that we don't get to see that you knew? >> she was fierce. she was tenacious. >> you told me it was only a matter of time before she was

eating my lunch at this level. >> i know. she would have run circles around the news outlets that are here to cover this tragedy. >> what made her special? >> she had unflinching confidence in what she wanted to do. she knew what her goals were. and that was to be in television news, to do journalism, to be a visual story-teller, to eventually become an anchor. and she was anchoring a lot. and i'm sure that was going to be a promotion for her in the very near future. and she eventually wanted to become a news director. her career goal, not to be on tv, not to get all of the accolades and attention. to be a news director, she was a journalist. >> the goals are usually a lot more shallow than that. >> yes. i saw her and told my mother

when i met her and we first started dating that, mom, i've finally found my teammate and my partner. that we were going to be a great tv news couple. >> people say that about both of you. they say the personalities were a perfect mesh. that the energy that you have, the way you are with people, that you were a perfect set for each other. >> i think we were. i think that it proves that you can find a perfect match out there, even when i never thought that would happen. the inscription she wrote at the top, says the cutest, newsiest couple ever. >> you are a pretty couple. >> i think that we were. >> chris hurst so eloquent in talking about the heart break that he feels in losing the love of his life, 24-year-old alison parker. her father struggling with it as well. now, the man who is charged with

balancing this heart break and t demands to do better, of course the governor. this is a very difficult time. what is your message to the people here in roanoke and across your state about how things are going to be okay? >> first of all, we're all heart broken, i spoke to the families yesterday. word can't describe. you know, it's always a tough call when you have to make to talk to somebody who lost a loved one. yesterday was a tragic day for virginia, for our families. but the families were strong yesterday. virginia is strong. we will work through this together. our hearts go out to the entire community, the families, everybody in the community. my whole family just spent our vacation down there. it is such a beautiful community. it is a strong community. we will get through this. but it's tough. it was needless. it never should have happened. but i also, chris, want to thank

also all the law enforcement yesterday that were involved. the franklin county sheriffs, the virginia state police who were able to stop this suspect before anyone else was hurt. i do want to thank all of our law enforcement. i want the ward and the parker families to know we are all there for you. if there's anything the commonwealth of virginia can do, we will be there for you, today, tomorrow and forever. >> alison's father, i know you spoke to him. and he is very heavy on the topic of what can be done. we just spoke to donald trump about gun control, about whether that's relevant. that's the fix, about mental illness. the questions that keep coming up. he said there are very difficult problems, but he didn't seem to know what could be done about it other than committing addressing these problems. the same falls on your shoulders, sir. what do we do? is it about guns?

what do we do about mental illness? is there a fix? and if so, what? >> chris, you are 40 miles from the single worst single shooter massacre in the history of our nation at virginia tech. 32 innocent lives were lost at virginia tech, 40 miles from where you are right now. we had a horrible tragedy several years ago. senator deeds lost his son. it was an issue about mental illness. we have worked hard here in virginia. we have put more money in our budget. to allow 22,000 individuals with severe mental illness to be able to get the treatment and care they need. this is a very serious issue. this is not political, chris. i have long advocated -- when i ran for governor, i was probably the most aggressive candidate ever in virginia history talking about safe, common sense, gun restrictions. i have always supported

universal background checks. i'm a gun owner. i hunt. i take my kids hunting. a background check takes on average two to three minutes. i just really believe that everybody who purchases a firearm in our nation should go through that background check. i submitted legislation to the general assembly this year that anyone, domestic talker -- stalkers, shouldn't be able to buy firearms. >> governor, that's point, though. my question is governor that you say it's not political, but there are a few things that are more political than this. every time we have a shooting the two sides stand as strong as ever and say it's all about the politics, it's all about whether or not the gun lobby versus those who want to change

ru rules, who wins. is there a way to identido it o you have to vesurrender to the status quo? >> i would never surrender. why i say it shouldn't be political, chris is that my job as governor is to keep the community safe. i inherited a huge budget deficit. you can bring businesses to your state when your communities are safe. this shouldn't be political. in a gun show loophole why does a certain booth have a sign that says we don't do background checks. who do you think is going to go to that booth? we should eliminate that. all i'm saying is that background checks is a simple procedure. it takes two to three minutes.

i had to veto two bills this year in the general assembly that came to my desk, one that would allow virginians to buy machine guns, a second bill that would allow you to carry a loaded gun in your car. i vetoed both. they couldn't override my veto. i talked to andy parker last night. my call was to call the family and say i am heart broken, we are heartbroken as a community. andy racises the issue with me and said please don't ever stop bringing common sense gun restrictions. he said alison would want me as a father to do that. i will never stop. i will continue to push this. it's the right thing to do. background checks is a simple procedure.

i'm a strong spoupportered of t second amendment. but you should have nothing to worry about if you give your license and have a background check. those folks with mental illness who have a history of violence, domestic abusers, stalkers, chris, should not own firearms. and clearly this gentleman yesterday should not have been able to own a handgun. >> governor, we'll wait to see what happens on this. the questions are always obvious. the solutions ever more evasive. thank you for taking the time in this difficult time to discuss the issues and the situation. >> thanks to all the viewers and everybody around the country. thank you. >> appreciate it, sir. coming up we're going to talk to the man we wer just discussing with the governor, alison parker's father. yes, he does see a cause coming

out of this now. and we'll ask him why. >> we look forward to hearing that conversation, chris and all of your conversations. back here in the studio we've been so struck by the poise of everyone involved in this tragedy. alison's fiance is a remarkable person. the general manager at the station is a remarkable person. and her father seems remarkable. we look forward to hearing from him. we'll have much more on the deaths of those two young journalists. first, there's a new nationwide poll. it shows donald trump dominating the republican pack. how will these numbers imfact ne impact the next gop debate on september 16th?

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that chris cuomo just did with donald trump. they started with the tragedy that's happening in roanoke, virginia. and you know, so many people throw their hands up after something like this and says something has to be done about gun violence, about separating guns and getting them out of the hands of people who seem unhinged. chris put that question to donald trump. here was his answer. >> i don't think i would, because this is really a sick person. this isn't a gun problem. this is a mental problem. you're not going to get rid of all guns. i know one thing, if you tried to do it, the bad guys would have them, to use an expression, and the good folks would abide by the law. >> jeffrey, is that a good enough answer? obviously we all know that bad guys can always get guns. but in terms of somehow curbing gun violence, is that a good enough answer what trump said? >> i think it is, alisyn.

there are two things that are not being discussed here at all when you read this guy's manifesto, one is race and the other is value of life. and what do we have here? we have this whole planned parenthood issue going on in which basically they're selling baby parts, devaluing life. >> how is that connected to a man who feels slighted and decides that killing other people is the answer? >> right. in other words he's not valuing life. he didn't value the lives of the people he killed. aside from that, he was into a race war. a reaction, which he mentioned, of the charleston shooting. that guy was moetivated by race. i'm suggesting here instead of dividing the country by race, which for instance jorge ramos was all about in that press

conference. i think that is something we should be discussing as well as mental illness and guns. >> ben, how do you see it? here's more of what donald trump said about trying to curb massacres like this. he said, it's a tough problem, there's no real solution. and it's been around for thousands of years. all of those are true. but, again n, in a leader, is tt what you want to hear a leader say in a crisis? >> i think anyone who acts like a law could have been passed as a silver bullet to stop this guy is living in la la land. i have been a victim of a crime where both people with the gun were convicted felons. they went to jail and they're back out and i'm sure they've gotten their hands on another illegal weapon at this point because they've done it two times before when they went to prison and got out.

the big issue here is politicians think that somehow a gun control law can fix this. i am open to talking about mental health and saying if you are committed against your will, there should be some sort of period where you cannot purchase a weapon. even hillary clinton when she came out and called for more gun control, she said they should at least have a waiting period. this guy was fired in february of 2013. i would say to hillary clinton, do you want a three-year waiting period for everyone who gets fired that may be upset during that moment. when you're a psychopath and you wear a go pro camera and you're on this obsessive-compulsive and i'm going to kill these people because of a race war, there is not a law that's going to stop you from doing that, especially if your end game is you dying the same day. the reality is there's nothing

that could have stopped that individual yesterday. from what we understand he was not a convicted felon. he could go out and buy a gun legally. yet they're saying we need more gun control. >> everything you're both saying is factually true or much of it. but the point is in times of crisis we do look to our leaders to make us feel better. so the tone is maybe he's giving us a dose of reality. it's nice to have somebody to say we will fix this, we will solve this. >> coming out with let's give everybody a hug and we're going to pass a law and make everybody feel better. remember, more than 20 laws were broken at columbine. if we would have passed two random other laws would have stopped that? i think conservatives and liberals both agree on this. we can do something on mental

health. but to say it's guns -- >> it's the nexus of guns and mental health and somehow keeps the guns out of those hands. and donald trump today at least didn't have an answer for that. very quickly jeffrey. >> we're always thinking we can find utopia in a lot of situations. utopia doesn't exist. human beings are imperfect. and we're always going to have problems. to think if we just do this or that and this will never happen again, that just is factually and historically not so. it's sad, but it's the truth. >> jeffrey lord, ben ferguson, thank you so much for having the conversation this morning. he says his grief is unbearable but he could not be more proud of his daughter. we speak with the father of alison parker next. ace.

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here that has become a memorial. there's so much more. the entire community as become a memorial to alison parker and adam ward. we're joined by alisynoalison's, andy parker. mr. parker, i know this is an incredibly difficult time for your family. i also know it's important for you to share your daughter not just in her death, but in her life. how are you this morning? >> i could be better. yesterday i really didn't think i would be making the news. a as i reflected during the day i realized alison was a journalist. that's why i'm here.

i've gone through the usual emotions of being numb and then uncontrolled grief and sobbing all day long. and then, you know, anger. but my soul's been crushed. >> in one of your statements yesterday you said something. the measure of solace that she touched to me people and made so much of the time that she had. is that helping? >> it is. the out pouring from the community and i think the nation at large. i think this is a big story nationally. and that has been a comfort. she was such a special person. she loved everybody that -- you know she was loved by everyone.

and she touched a lot of lives. and obviously it shows in the tributes that have come her way. i've got to tell you. i've not watched my television. you know, i didn't see any of the recounts. i didn't want to. after the fact i'm hearing just, you know, how much she has been loved. and you know i certainly -- it doesn't surprise me. >> part of how you want your daughter to be remembered is that you want something to come out of this situation. you were very strong last night when you were talking about how you think we need to be better after a situation like this. what do you want now? >> well, her life was cut short. she had so much potential. and you know, it's senseless

that her life and adam's life were taken by a crazy person with a gun. if i have to be the john walsh of gun control and -- look, i'm for the second amendment, but there has to be a way to force politicians that are cowards and in the pockets of the nra to come to grips and make sense -- have sensible laws so that crazy people can't get guns. it can't be that hard. and yesterday politicians from the local level to the state level to the national level, they sidestep the issue. they kick the can down the road. this can't happen anymore. because alison was one of you guys. this has got to hit home for journalists. if journalists are targets -- and we're not talking about, you

know, someone going to syria and being in the cross hairs of isil. we're talking about two young people that were doing a benign story about a marina opening or celebration and someone -- and a crazy person with a gun shoots them. and i know the nra -- i can hear it now. they're going to say, oh gee, if they were carrying, this never would have happened. i've got news for you. if alison or alison had been caring an ak-47 strapped around their waist, it wouldn't have made any difference. they couldn't have seen this coming. i got a call from the governor yesterday and i told him exactly what my plan was. if i have to be a crusader on this, i'm not going to rest until i see something happen. and he said, you go for it.

i'm right there with you. we've got to have our legislators and our congressmen step up to plate and stop being cowards about this. >> you know what you're going to hear. obviously you're very emotional right now and it's motivating you. we just had donald trump on. he's leading in the polls. and he said these are tough issues and i'm for the second amendment. i don't think you should take away more guns. mental illness is stuff. yesterday nothing changes because the two side are very rooted. the law is what it is and change is hard. what do you say to those issues? >> of course. i'm not saying let's take away guns. i'm saying let's make it harder

for people with mental issues or people that, you know, like this guy that killed alison and adam to make it difficult for them to purchase guns. there's got to be a mechanism that gets put in place for that. and i don't think that's unreasonable to do. how many newtowns are we going to have? how many sandy hooks? how many alisons is this going to happen to before we stop it? i'm challenging you the media because again this is one of your own. and i know how the business working. it's a great story for a couple of days and then it goes to the back burner and nothing happens. but i can promise you and i can promise the american people i'm not going to rest until i see something get done here. >> you're being motivated

obviously by the loss of your daughter. you know there's been a great out pouring of support for her and the eyes of the country are on you. what do you want people to know about your daughter? >> she was kind and she was sweetd and she touched everybody. i'm standing here now. i got to see her in action and doing stories like this with the camera set up. she loved us and we loved her. and i talked to her every single day. every single day i talked to her. and right now she would be texting me right now saying, dad, what did you think of my story? what did you think of it? and i'm never going to hear that again. she was so loved by all. my heart is broken.

i want to try and do something that will change that and make her life -- will do something meaningful for her life so this doesn't happen to someone else again. she was a special young lady. and i think people across the country and certainly around here realize that. >> often maybe the best thing that comes out of a situation like this, andy, is that people get a respect for the victims involved and who was lost when somebody decides to take out their anger the way this madman did. and your daughter is becoming the best example of how precious life is. and you got to see it even in her boyfriend chris and the love he had for your daughter and the love she had for him. that is one way your daughter will live on in the hearts of the people who loved her.

>> it is. and we can at least take solace in the fact that she lived -- she was only 24. she just turned 24 last week. she packed in a great life in 24 years. she did a lot of things and most of all she was happy with what she was doing. she loved what she was doing. she loved her family. she loved chris very much. and at least we know from the law enforcement officials she didn't suffer. and you know, she led a happy life. i just wish i could touch her soul right now, because -- i'm sorry. i -- >> andy, don't say your sorry. listen, i know this is difficult for you. i know it is. and i know that you feel that you have to come out and address this because you want people to remember her the right way and you want to say what you think

is important in this. but please take care of yourself and take care of your family. and you know people will stay on this story for the right reasons, not just because alison was a journalist, but because it matters. i appreciate it, sir. our hearts and our prayers go to you and your family. >> thank you. she would have wanted this. thank you. >> andy, please take care of yourself. all right. that's alison's father. obviously he is heart broken. but at the same time he feels the need not just to make sure that you know who was lost in this situation, but why he thinks it happened and why he thinks something should change. and he deserves that right as much as anybody else, especially now. so we're going to take a break right now. when we come back, we're going to talk to somebody who has

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she wrote about it in her autobiography. ingrid joins us now live from orlando. thank you very much for joining us. i know that you have made this moment in your life into a mission to understand more how this happens and how to help people that cause this kind of violence and destruction. when you hear alison's father, when you see him on television, the pain, the exposure, what do you think is the value and what do you think is the risk to him and to others like him? >> first, thank you for having me on your show and my hearts and prayers are with alison's and adam's family, loved ones and friends. when i saw the news yesterday i've been praying for them. this is the most difficult part, the process of grieving one. they lost a loved one.

we lost a colleague. i did not know them in person, but they are in my heart and in my prayers. it's very hard, chris, to survive a tragic incident like this. in my personal case, it took me almost ten years to heal. i went to counselling. i look for help. i grieve my pain. i look for the help of my loved ones. your life changes. my life changed that day, january 18th, 1993. mr. and mrs. parker and the family of adam are changed yesterday because they lost their loved one. i lost a woman in front of me when this guy killed her, her ex-husband. i also lost my mother seven years before as a victim of a crime, as a victim of domestic violence. someone killed her. so two murdered in my life, one as a daughter, one as a journalist.

that's the reason my heart is with them. really i learn i have to forgive the pain that i have and put in perspective that if i wanted to use that ugly experience to help others, i went to study and a master in counselling and psychological. i learned to share the pain is a process of grieving. >> so when he comes on, as painful as it is and as much as we doubt whether he wants it not and he very much wants the platform right now to talk about his daughter. you're saying that it is part of grieving. what can you help us understand about why someone does this? we ask the question and we get a variety of answers. it never justifies it, never satisfied. what can we take from understanding the motivations of a madman? >> me as a counselor when i see my clients, it's very important

to understand the background. every bad situation, trauma start at home. from the beginning of childhood, the process of growing, something happened to that human being that has anger in his heart, has hate, has envy. is a lot of negative emotion that we're accumlating in his mind. he create the story, he believe the story, and me make an action of the story that he believe in his mind. becau you can see some identification. you can identify some behaviors in this human being. something is happening with that human being that can be a trigger. it's the too late for alison and too late for adam. but for the coworkers, for you as a journalist, it's important to heal to release that pain. because we sometimes do not

understand the capacity of the human being to act like this guy. it is hard. but it is help, i highly suggest and advise to look for counselling in this process of pain. >> ingrid cruz, you lived through it. it shaped your life and you're trying to make it easier for others. thank you for sharing your message with us. i appreciate it here on "new day" today. thank you, ingrid cruz. >> thank you. >> we're trying to get perspective on something that makes no sense. but there are questions going forward that need answers and the coverage will continue. "newsroom" with carol costello will be here for you right after the break. aw. aw. ♪ thirsty? they said it would make me cool. they don't sound cool to me. guess not. you got to stick up for yourself, like with the name your price tool. people tell us their budget, not the other way around.

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