tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN August 27, 2015 5:00pm-6:01pm PDT
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this one is for my baby. >> reporter: some students do not get any choices leaving some parents to question whether the program really works. >> i don't know that we are succeeding necessarily. and that the same sort of quality education is available for everyone. >> ten years now after the storm. >> we have gone from a school district that was an f to a school district that is a c level. >> how was your first day? >> new orleans is still trying. and won't stop until they get that a. suzanne malveaux, new orleans. >> thank you for joining us. ac 360 starts right now. good evening. thank you for joining us. a vigil just now getting under way outside cnn affiliate wdbj in roanoke, virginia, the make shift memorial growing all day. as people pay their respects. inside they're getting ready for the late newscast, working through tears at times, a day and night, after a killer took the lives of two colleagues they loved. reporter alison parker,
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photo-journalist, adam ward. tonight alison parker's father is with us, so is the man who helped to marry allison. they had every expectation of spending the rest of their lives in the warmth of her smile and the light of her love. instead, tonight they are facing cold reality in the kind of darkness that hurts to imagine. so is adam's ward feeian stai who had additional, unimaginable watching the love of her life killed along with allison as she watched from a tv news control room. she obviously is hurting. and so is everyone who worked with adam and alison including the news director. >> i have watched anchors and reporters half an hour before a newscast be crying in the newsroom and then get on that set and deliver the news to the people of southwest and central virginia. they, they have had to talk about their colleagues. and you know deal with some difficult situations. i give you the example of our, our meteorologist this morning, found a candy wrapper while on
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the air that adam ward had always eaten and had left some where. and it is those kind of little thing that are just kind of getting to us now. my sports director just said to me, i lost it when i saw, walked out and saw his car in the parking lot. and saw clothes in there. every little thing. it's not the big things that get to us, the little ones. >> in adiagnosis to reflecting on their loss, she and the general manager. we are learning what was in the killer's car suggesting he was planning not just to commit murder but make a getaway. our primary focus will be as it always is on the people whose lives were take in and not the killer himself. with that in mind, and knowing how difficult this has got to be we are jind oined by alison pars father. andy. thank you for being with us the i am so sorry for your loss and
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the loss of your family. can you talk to us about allison, the woman she was, the daughter she was. >> thank you, anderson. she was our shining star. everything she -- she did and, and took on, anything she touched, she, she -- and, and tackled she excelled at. she was a terrific gymnast until she got too tall. then she became a an award winning swimmer. won the district swimming award in high school. she was a beautiful ballerina. everything she did and everything she tackled she, she just nailed it. you know, i, mention to some of your colleagues, this morning, that -- you know, i -- i had not really planned to do the circuit here, the media circuit.
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allison was a consummate journalist. the news editor for the breeze. she considered cher self a journalist, versus a tv personality. she was very proud of that. initially i didn't think i could do any media at all. and then as i reflected upon it, i realized that she is what she would want me to do. she would want me to come on and tell the story. and, and, fight the fight i am about to fight in terms of gun control. we can talk about that later. she made everybody happy. she touched so many lives. and everybody loved her. >> yeah, i do want to ask you about that fight that you are planning to, to wage on gun control.
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but my mom watches me still every day. you spoke every day with your daughter about the stories that she was covering. it's rare for parents to talk to each other every day. alison, as soon as her hits were over, the spots she did. i would get a text. i would text her. hey that was a great job, scooter, you did a terrific job. >> you called her scooter? >> her nickname. i called her scooter. since she was just a little girl. and that was, you know, nobody knew that. the general public didn't know. only her close friend. but, you know, she, we always talked. and she always valued my opinion. and wanted to know how she did. the last two days i haven't gotten that text. i haven't heard her ring tone
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was brown eyed girl. because she was, you know, a blond one of those unusual combinations where, she had blond hair and brown eyes. and, you know, i can't hear that anymore. i said earlier, i am, i am really trying hard. i have been trying hard all day to keep this together. but, you know, as you can imagine, my, my heart is breck and my soul is crushed. >> yeah. and it's -- i wish there were words that could make it better. obviously there aren't. >> i understand. let me ask you what you want to do now, where you want to go with your grief. with your anger. with all of the emotions you must be feeling. i mean, you talked already. publicly about -- that shootings like this have to stop. that you want to do something to, to change things. what do you thing needs to change? what do you believe can change?
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>> well, i think what can change is -- we need more help from you guys. as in the media. because, you just lost someone in the fraternity. allison was one of your own. with the crews i talked to and the other reporters that i have, that i have spoken with today. you know they all been shattered because they realize. and they have all been, it's, struck a chord because they realize that, that could have been them. what can't happen. here is a tragedy. after sandy hook. and the theater shootings. everybody thought, gosh this is terrible. you know, virginia tech. we have got to do something to keep people that are mentally disturbed, we got to keep them away from guns and having the
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ability to get guns. and then what happens is, obviously, this story, you know, it's gone international. i, i have done interviews with canadian television, with the bbc today. you know with spanish language stations, with german television tomorrow. i didn't really intend to be a media star, or, whatever you want to call it. this can't be about 15 minutes. gee this is a tragedy. we need to do sawing but it. and then next week somebody is talking about, what donald trump is talking about. what is he doing? it's, there has got to be pressure. and there has got to be continued pressure on, with, with the media. going after politicians. and, and affecting a change. i want to look, i want to, i want to -- address the, the
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members of the committees involved in the virginia general assembly. look me in the eye and say gee we can't support any other measures with regard to gun control. i want to see them do that. >> you see yourself knocking on doors, having the meetings, looking people in the eye? >> absolutely. and also galvanizing a coalition of people like me that have, you know, that, they have lost their, their family members to gun violence. it can happen. it is, anderson, it is your responsibility, you and the others in the media and dan rather, i just saw an article that dan rather wrote today that said, the media is not doing enough. you know this is in the whack of this, in alison's murder. >> i saw that as well. >> the media is not doing enough to keep this on the front
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burner. it's got to, it can't be -- you know, this is a tragedy for four days. and then, oh, jeez. that's, that's, too bad. because i tell you what. that's what the nra is thinking right now. the nra is saying, ah, it will go away. and, and, you know they are the most powerful lobby in the country. and somehas gbody has got to ta them on. by god i am going to do it. >> how do you think alison. i deon't know if i can ask this a dumb question, but, is there a particular memory of allison that you want people to kind of move for ward. something she said. or memory in your mind. as they close their eyes tonight and hug their loved ones. >> gosh, there was she made
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everybody happy. comfortable. walked into a room. she spread joy. i will try to tell this one quickly. one of my favorite stories of anything she ever did. the station where she came from, was, she was the bureau chief in, in, they made right out of school the bureau chief in jacksonville, north carolina. and she was reporting hard news, back then. and that's, why i get -- you know-- the news cycle. you know you got to. obviously you guys have to do your jobs. you have got to go after the news of the day. i understand that. but, she was also, she was so thoroughen what she did. and she developed a great trust from law enforcement down there. obviously there was a lot of stuff going on. they covered that. because she kept one story that the sheriff's office did not want to cover.
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didn't want to break because it was an ongoing investigation. another station broke the news. but, what happened after that in the aftermath and the sheriff's department people. >> she was following. >> right. she was following. but all of the other, but the law enforcement after that they always called her first. if something was breaking, and they called the other stations an hour later. well, a few weeks later. there was a big meth bust. i tell the story with happiness and joy. she was covering the meth bust. the lead investigator that was there. she asked how long is this going to take. allison we will be here all
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night. 9:45 rolls around. the lead investigator says, okay, boys, we are done. time to wrap up. she said, wait. please i am going to go on the air here. i have a story here in ten, 15 minutes. he said, okay, allison, what do you want us to do. well, don't worry about it. turn the lights on, boys, they turned the lights on. and they -- they, you know, they took their clipboard out. and they're behind her. writing, re-creating the crime scene. and they had the respect for her i'm sorry. they did that for her because she was so trusted. and such a good person. and, and, everybody loved her. i'm sorry, i thought i could get
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through this without losing it. but that's the kind of person that she was. that they would do something like that for her. >> i feel like i know her a little bit more talking to you. and just from everything i have heard, she sounded like such an amazing person. and, i just, i wish you -- >> she was. she was, thank you. you know, i am going to get through it. that's why i'm, i want to try and lead this effort. because i owe it to her. i wasn't there to protect her. obviously there was nothing i could do anyway. but i just want to make sure that, that, something will change. and if there is a law out there that, that-up know, prevents this kind of stuff from happening. you know it would be great to call it allison's law. that's what i can do to, to help now. i can't, i can't, i couldn't be there, but, going forward, i can make this a mission. and i an going to. >> andy, i wish you strength and peace in the days ahead.
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thank you for talking to us. >> thank you, anderson. i appreciate it. >> we do want to give you a quick update on vicky gardner, the third victim. this morning doctors upgraded her condition from stable to good. she was being interviewed by alison at the time of the shooting. underwent emergency surgery. learned a second time today after being shot in the back. we join everyone in roanoke in wishing her obviously the very best. just ahead tonight we will talk with alison parker's boyfriend, wdbj anchor, chris hurst about his brown idea girl. next, breaking news in the investigation, namely some revealing items found in the gunman's car. what they say about his intentions to escape capture. as well as some of the red flags about his behavior, long before the killings.
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in a moment joined by anchor chris hurst. hoped to marry alison parker. the two started living together and were planning their life together. breaking news in the murder investigation. drew griffin talking to his sources joins us now. drushgs what have you learned? >> anderson the shooter and rental car ended up 200 miles from roanoke. tonight we know what police found when they searched it after he shot himself.
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there was what you would expect, the glock 9 mm pistol, six magazines, 9 millimeter ammunition. also this, handwritten and typed notes. and 17 stamped letters. we don't know whuch the letters were intended for. what's caught most people's attention to day is this. there was a briefcase andersen with three license plates. a wig, a shawl, umbrella. and sunglasses. all items seemingly could be used to disguise somebody in a get away though remember he had faxed that so-called manifesto to abc news. and was calling it a suicide note. >> we heard today from the nation's executives how they're going to go about their business in the whack ake of this traged. >> they got back on the air obviously. were they going to go in the field? that was one of the questions asked. how long was it going to be sense they sent live teams out again.
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>> we did not have live teams out yesterday or out today. for abundance of caution. i know a lot of other news organizations around the country are wrestling with that. we will evaluate that and consult with staff and what their comfort level is with this. law enforcement reached out. hey if you are doing a live shot, some where, let us know the we will be there. do we know any more how the shooter knew the crew would be at the location at the time? >> perhaps. the station's news director you heard from talked about it today. she said it was probably just why watching t vchv. this crew had a first live shot appearance after 5:00 a.m. yesterday. would have given the shooter ample time to drive there for the next appearance at 6:45. >> so sickening. drew, appreciate the update. far from all we learned about
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the gunman's evolution from troubled colleague to killer. who we are not naming obviously. we do think it is important to focus on the red flags thrown up by the killer for one reason or another people ignored or dent fully pursue. brian todd has more on that. >> reporter: the warning signs stretch back at lest as far as the year 2000. detailed in this lawsuit. the shooter was reporting for this station in tallahassee, florida when he was fired according to the station for poor performance. misbehavior with regard to co-workers and use of pro fancy on the premesis. the shooter alleged pay back for complaining about racial discrimination on the job saying he was called a "monkey" by a producer. >> he was very angry and troubled by a lot of the things that happened to him at work. i was concerned about just his, his, mental status and whether he needed counseling. >> reporter: we found no indication he received any counseling at all. his attorney says the suit was
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settled. but we know the firing was deeply upsetting to him. in his rambling message faxed to abc news, the shooter called it the nightmare that was tallahassee and writes he told his father at the time nothing was working in my life. he bounced around to a number of news stations for the next 12 years. then landed here at wdbj in 2012. it was a short, tumultuous time with the company. warning signs of a troubled mind came quickly. internal memos from wdbj, reveal co-workers feeling threatened and uncomfortable as early as april of the year. the station manager says flanagan was asked to seek mental health assistance. he complied. >> we made it mandatory that he seek help from our employee assistance program. many companies have them. they provide, you know, counseling and, and, other services and, we made it mandatory. that he do that. >> it is unclear how long that counseling lasted. he was ultimately fired in 2013. he did not go quietly.
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saying you better call police because i am going to make a big stink. wdbj did call police while some employees sheltered themselves in a locked office. as police escorted him out, shooting victim adam ward filmed the episode and the shooter turned to tell him, lose your big gut. then handed the news director a wooden cross, saying you will need this. it was his last job in the news business. >> you followed me here. >> reporter: july of this year, another driver films the shooter in a parking lot after a road rage incident. no charges were filed. a few days later the shooter legally buys, two glock pistols after passing a standard background check. in years, months, weeks leading up to yesterday's shooting the warning signs of a deeply troubled man were on times on display no one it appears thought it could end in such tragedy. >> you could never timentage in somebody is going dto come back and act on issues so old. it was a little bothersome that
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he was in town and would be seen by our employsy. but again, what do you do? do you imagine that everybody who leaves your company under difficult circumstances is going to take aim? >> you have spoken to sources who work at the station. what are they telling you about, about the warning signs? >> a lot of warning signs, anderson. many having to do with simple just angry outbursts. i speck to a man named brian, a photographer and editor here at wdbj. he told me he was on edge working with the shooter in the field. the shooter all way got angry. he said at one point during a 6:00 p.m. hour live shot they were going to do they had technical problems the live shot didn't get on the air. he says the shooter threw his stuff down and stomped into the woods for 20 minutes. asked if he tried to get him
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back. he said no way. what did you say to him when he came back? nothing. i wanted to steer clear of the guy. also we did learn according to station general manager, jeff marks, the shooter confronted an anchor who was assigned to work with him. on his script. so there were angry outbursts that's eventually led to his termination, and anderson. >> appreciate the update. thank you. next, talk to anchor chris hurst. tell us about the kind of person that alison parker was and the time they had together. technology empowers us to achieve more.
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so this is home to us. being able to work in the community that i grew up in, customers feel like friends, neighbors and it makes it a little bit more special. together, we're building a better california. top of the broadcast you heard wdbj's news director speak of the little reminders around her newsroom of alison parker and adam ward. the little things she said that get you the post. and we would add, stay with you the longest. that's got to go ten times over tonight for anchor chris hurst. he and alison just started living together and hoped to start a life together. chris joins us tonight. as i said to ales on's d -- alis dad. i am so sorry for your loss. what do you want people to know
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about alison? >> i want people to know that alison would want us to celebrate her life. not to mourn her death. they would want to know that sunny was someone who was infinitely likable, eminated a radiant personality, and she was fantastic at everything she attempted. i know andy told about her being a gymnast and swimmer. and being a dancer. and being a calculus tutor going to governor's school and to be on the robotics team. a nerd at heart. and displayed a beauty i had never seen before in person. i was lucky enough that she loved me back. she was also a fantastic journalist. an excellent storyteller. and she had so many more stories to tell that unfortunately won't be able to be told. so now we have decided that weed into to share her story and adam's story need to be shared as well. i know there is going to be a foundation in her name.
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i want to ask you about that. if i could just on a personal basis, and if it ties personal, i will move on. but do you remember the moment you knew she was the one for you? >> the moment i knew sunny was the one for me, we actually talked about this a few months into our relationship as every couple does. honey, when did you fall in love with me? i was bold enough, i suppose to start flirting with her at our holiday christmas party this past year. we had never really been able to interact too much until then. and, we went on our first date a couple weeks later on new year's day at a mexican restaurant the she loved mexican food. she loved mexican southwest culture. and the colors. and, and, everything about what that shows. and we didn't eat any of the food. all we did was talk. and i was just so elated that sunny went sunny -- she went on a date with me. i fall.
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i fall hard. she was more apprehensive. i'm the evening anchor. she's the morning reporter. do you want to get into an office romance? i had no desire to until i saw her. on the first date on the first of january of this year, new year's day was the beginning of a new chapter for me. the most wonderful chapter of my life. that chapter is now closed. >> i understand she had a very good sense of humor. that's something that a lot of her colleagues talked about? >> i can show you. right? so i have been holding this book. and this has been something that is, has become all most a prop now to show my love for her. but i have been clutching it because it has been bringing me comfort. a scrapbook she gave me of pictures of us for our six month anniversary. we were never able to have an anniversary. but there you go. right? so this is one of my favorite pictures of her. this was at a st. patrick's day celebration. in the bottom right corner, she is giving me a goofy fars.
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-- goofy face. she brought a personality trait from inside me i never thought existed. she had a wonderful remarkable, goofy, witty, sense of humor. that, that, any one who knew her will remember forever. and what she wrote on the side -- you know -- we have a lot of fun when we drink. and she was, she was, just had a, skrjust had a marvelous personality. and she, is someone who will remain close to my heart forever. forever and ever. >> chris you, and i talked do the commercial breaks. i want to express my condolences personally to you. one thing you said, i want to ask you personally about, you said this can't be just another story, that something has got, you can't just move on from this. and as a journalist, you and alison, you cover stories. something happens the next day. and then the next day. obviously this is very personal.
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and this is something which has changed your life and will change your life forever. how do you. >> how do you see it? i don't know what my question is. but it has got to be hard as a journalist, to have seen these kind of things and then have this happen to you and the person you were closest to. >> so, allison looked up to many journalists. and she kidded herseconsidered journalist. i have briefly win on social media the past couple days. when it happened i posted my infinite love for her which was something not public to our community. officially until yesterday. and i regret not doing it sooner. but i had been reading there, has been an article by nicholas cristoph, and dan rather wrote an article, both said that we are allowed as journalists to make conclusions. i think that is okay. when the evidence is hitting you square in the face, you are allowed to say, this is
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unacceptable. i don't know why this man decided to target the love of my life. and adam ward, who was deeply loved by melissa ott. but i can tell you that this is happening over and over and over again. and people that i report for, my community is telling me that this is happening over and over and over again. and a kricritical incident occu. people not supposed to die are killed senselessly. we're all upset. we all then decide we need to talk about this. and then we forget about it. it happens. and we talk about it. we forget about it. i think the tide will turn. there will be a pin the wheoint in this society have decided enough is enough. i hope and pray that this is the event that causes that tide to turn. but i don't know if that is going to happen for sure. because just as the families of those children who were murdered in an elementary school and the
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families of those people who were murdered in movie theaters and murdered in a church, would have wanted that to be the incident that changed the tide, i can't tell you for sure as a journalist whether this is going to be that incident or not. i can tell you that after talking with media folks for a long time, the past couple days on the national level who really are able to steer the national discourse, and then we, and at the local affiliate level have a duty and obligation to raise our own local issues for conversation. this happened to two of us. in the media industry in the most reprehensible nightmarish way possible. and i think the media, maybe selfishly, will pay mr. attention and care more about this because it happened to two people who loved the job and the career that they love. so i'm hopeful that this will be the incident that will turn the tide. but objectively, i cannot say that is for certain. >> well, it certainly has changed obviously your life and the lives of an awful lot of
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people not only in that community and the families, but really around the world who are have been following this. we do appreciate, chris, you taking the time to talk to us. again, i just really am -- >> anderson, i hope that i can have a little bit of time. because you mentioned the -- there is an update to that. yeah. so allison loved james madison university. sunny was a school of media arts and design graduate. she loved that school. she was an alpha phi in the sorority. her sisters are heartbroken now. we will be with them soon. immediately yesterday after this happened. we worked to make sure that a fund was set up in her name for scholarships for students at the school of media arts and design at james madison university. tonight her family has learned that, a generous donor has offered to put up $25,000. and if that $25,000 is matched and there is a $50,000 fund amount that its raised, if woo e reach that threshold, that, that, that fund could very well
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become an endowment fund. that means it would be a fund available for students for perpituity. every year, students receiving scholarship money in alison parker's name. that is exactly what needs to hapt pen in this case. she cannot be forgotten. she must be remembered for the wonderful journalist and amazing personal that she was. a daughter, sister, girlfriend. i love her so, so much. and i urge everyone to please donate to that fund. so that we can make this an endowment fund and have scholarship fund available in allison bailey parker's name forever and ever. >> is there a website? >> there is a website. it has a long convoluted web link address. go to james madison university. you will find it. i know you will on ac 360. and, and, anyone who want to search allison bailey parker memorial scholarship fund for
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james madison university. please donate the we need to get tight $50,000 it is possible it could become an endowment fund. >> well will put the link on our website at ac360.com. my thoughts and prayers are with you. thank you. we will keep the focus on the story. also, we'll talk more in the future, we hope with allison's dad. and his new battle. just ahead the race for the white house continuing. new polling on donald trump. and his fellow republicans. huh he is doing against top democrats. more ahead.
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make donald trump happy. a poll released to day shows donald trump dominating his candidates. how he might fare against democratic candidates. and john king joins me with the numbers. john, this new national poll. donald trump his biggest lead yet. where does everyone stand? >> anderson. if you are donald trump you love the numbers. 28% nationally. ben carson. 12%. jeb bush, 7%. a month ago, donald trump at 28 up from 20. carson, 6 to 12. jeb bush, slipping. ted scott walker has to be worrying. troubling news for governor bush and walker especially. if you move out and look at it. the breadth of it is stunning. 20% of tea party voters are for donald trump. 25% of those describe themselves as very conservative say they're for donald trump.
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24% of white evangelicals for trump. 26% of some what conservative republicans for trump. 30% of moderate to liberal republicans. across the party. not one group. putting trump where he is. there are some warning signs. 26% of republicans say they definitely won't support trump. you can see a bit of a problem. though you can see a path to the republican nomination for mr. trump. in this crowded field at 28%. you can see a path to the nomination. the big question, anderson, help me here. when you look ahead to a general election. pick a number. lot of warning signs. help me out. >> actually. don't have my glasses. i can't see. hoed on one second. all right. pick a number. 54. >> 54. come over. two of those. 54% of all voters say mr. trump is not honest. 54% of voters have unfavorable opinion. i will go through the to make it easier. 63%, unfavorable rating among latinos. 79%, unfavorable rating, african-americans.
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quickly through the others. 58% of women unfavorable view of trump. 60% think he doesn't care about people. 61%, he doesn't care about the problems of women. 64%, think he lacks the tell praable. you can see mr. trump winning the republican nomination. he has time to change them. with these numbers almost impossible to see trump winning a general election. >> hillary clinton and joe biden how do they fare in a hypothetical match up? >> if you are gentlemen biden. he is not in the race. his car is a brand new car in the lot. has not been nicked of. clinton beats troim by 4. joe biden beats him by 8. clinton beats marco ruby by one. joe biden can say i beat him by three. when joe biden is meeting with supporters in a general election, i am the strongest democrat. >> john, stay with us. bring in political commentator, washington correspondent for the new yorker and cnn senior
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political reporter, nia malika henderson. jeb bush is at 7%. has there been some one who polled that low in this point of the game? >> no, that's what is different about this. the folks you assume are establishment front-runner going in in previous cycles they had some ka pigs. they have been down in the polls. -- competition. they have been down in the polls. lawst lost their lead. look back at bob dole, george bush, 2000, mccain, 2808, romney, 2012. they faced challenges on the right. but they always maintained, 15, 30% support. never into the single digits like this. what is different this time. much, much bigger field. so you could argue well there is a big, big nontrump vote out there. just waiting for a rubio or jeb bush or -- or, another candidate to consolidate it. and then the sort of anti-trump vote is very divided at this
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point. >> nia, to ryan's point. if you add up. not just a trump vote. add up trump's numbers. with carson's numbers and cruz's numbers you get 47%. a big gain for, what you would consider nonstab lawyestablishm candidates. cruz part of the establishment, running as though he is not. look at kasich, bush, rubio, they're polling at the end. >> that's right. you know the hope would be if you are troump you can consolidate all of the candidates the numbers as the field willows, bush is the establishment candidate. and then trump as anti-establishment candidate. i do think there is some light at the end of the tunnel for jeb bush in terms of his numbers. look back at december of 2003. john kerry was at 7% in national polls. and, howard dean was at about, 25%, 30%. of course we know how that ended. kerry ended up winning, iowa, he
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put all of his resources inn there. then it really flipped the race. there is precedent for somebody doing so poorly and then becoming eventual nominee. >> john the other part of the poll. i was flabbergast add but. voters were asked to give the first word that comes to mind for candidates. explain what they said about the two front-runners, clinton and trump. >> some of this you can find funny. to your point. the two leading candidates for president now. not that funny voters think thee things. what is the first word that comes to mind when you think of hillary clinton? liar. untrustworthy. dishonest. now, woman comes up. smart comes up. political comes up. experience comes up. strong comes up. liar, untrustworthy, dishonest, three huge words come up the most about hillary clinton. donald trump. blow hard. clown. idiot. now, businessman does come up. again, strong comes up. honest comes up in his defense. arrogance comes up. both cases.
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blur. on the hillary clinton graphic. both, we decide to be family friendly not put on the screen some word that aren't good for a family audience. >> ryan, the fact that if liar is the first word, you know voters in this poll think of when they think hillary clinton. that certainly seems to imply she need to deal with whether it is the e-mail issue or, i don't know it is just the e-mailer to. that just needs into kind of a longer existing narrative. there is a rising swell on prominent democrats who are adamant that she has got to do something. >> no doubt about it. her character and trust worthiness has been the number one downside of her -- in politics since she was first lady. something she had to overcome as first lady. something she had to evercome in her campaigns for the, for senate from new york. and it is the issue that barack obama exploited quite effectively in 2008. no doubt that a republican will do that in a general election. the question is, will any of her primary opponents do that. bernie sanders said no, not
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going to attack her that way. i don't think joe biden is going to get in the race. in the end. one of the reasons he might not do it. he doesn't want to go down the road against hillary clinton. >> fascinating. john king. thank you. >> next, i'll speak with jorge ramos about his confrontation with troim. wait, i can freeze my account. [touch tone] introducing freeze it, from discover. it allows you to prevent new purchases on your account in seconds if your card is misplaced. not here... ♪ and once you find your card, you can switch it right on again. hey...you're back! [touch tone] freeze it, only from discover. get it at discover.com.
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donald trump is not backing down in his verbal battle with univision's jorge ramos. he threw him out of a press conference, invited him back, called him out of line to. day he kept it up, heaping scorn on a "the new york times" headline about the confrontation. >> "trump gets earful in spanish as latino outlets air disdane." i am saying what does that mean? and ty start off. think this is on the front page. and, you know especially if you come from new york. when you are on the front page that means like a lot to me of the "the new york times." that is a lot. so it talks about a, you know the whole thing i had with the spanish journalist. if you call him a journalist. i don't, actually he is an advocate for lots of things. >> one of the thing i wanted to
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ask univision anchor jorge ramos. >> donald trump says you are an advocate not a journalist. what's your response? do you kid yoare an advocate? >> i'm just a reporter asking questions. i also believe, anderson, you have to go the extra mile to, to be tough on those who are in power. and in my case, i, i had many questions to donald trump. and he just didn't want to give me an interview. so i went all the way to iowa to ask those questions. i am also convinced that as journalists, sometimes you have to take a stand. >> you talk about taking a stand against racism. lies, dictatorship. what are you taking a stand against? are you saying trump is lying? are you sag he is a dictator? are you saying he is racist? are you saying he is not giving facts? >> no, what i am saying is that, what he is saying about immigration is full of empty
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promises. he can't deport 11 million people from the united states. he can't build a 1900 mile wall between mexico and the united states. and he can't, deny citizenship to the children born in this country. he just can't do that. now, what i think is also, it is very dangerous as reporters, not to challenge some one who is saying that. we have to put it, in perspective. he is talking about the largest mass deportations, one of the largest in modern history. talking about the largest wall between two countries in the word. he is talking about changing the constitution. >> when trump said, "go back to univision" i am wondering what you heard? was it as simple go become to your network? or do you think it was something else? >> what he is saying is, the same kind of language that we hear from people who are against immigrants. and -- it's the same language that i heard when i left the
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press conference. and there was another person who i haven't identified yet, clearly a follower of donald trump. who said get out of my country. i am a u.s. citizen. >> in fact i have that, i have that video. >> this is not donald trump's country. it is, it is our country. >> i have that video of, of believe to be a trump supporter who said that to you. i want to play that then ask you about it. >> you are very rude. it's not about you. get out of my country. get out. >> i am a u.s. citizen, too. >> no, univision. not about you. >> ate not about you. >> it about the united states. >> this guy says get out of my country. what does that feel like? to have somebody saying that to you? >> well that's exactly what, listen, when we hear from people who are against latinos. and who are against immigrants. what i have been saying is that they is very dangerous that a
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presidential candidate speaks like mr. donald trump. because what is happening lately is that what many americans say in their homes to their friend in their kitchens now many feel it is okay to say that to minorities, to latinos. and this is really creating a terrible backlash. >> i want to bring up some of the criticisms you have received in the last couple days whether from trump supporters or people on television. one of the things people say is your daughter works for the hillary clinton campaign? is that a fair criticism? does that in any way affect your coverage of donald trump or any of the republican candidate or democrat candidates. i saw your interview with president obama, you were very tough with him. >> uh-huh. yes. and no one can criticize me for being partisan. i have been as tough with president barack obama and other
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republicans. i can be tough on any candidate. it doesn't matter where party. it is true my daughter works for the clinton campaign. i disclose that many, many weeks ago. many, many weeks age i think it is great young people get involved in politics. i love my daughter. and but she, she made that decision on her own. and as a reporter i have a completely different profession. >> the other criticism which relates to that, they're saying you were grandstanding. that, that clearly this is something which your viewers will enjoy watching you do. was this grandstanding? >> i was, i was just reporting asking questions. and he was just a candidate who didn't like my question. and threw me out of a press conference with his bodyguard. so i would argue that the one who created that show, it wasn't me. it was -- donald trump. >> jorge ramos, appreciate you being on tonight.
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