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who created that show, it wasn't me. it was -- donald trump. >> jorge ramos, appreciate you being on tonight. thank you. >> temperature night we will be live from new orleans on the eve mplt the following is a cnn /* /* /- /* /- >> as i go around a people about lessons from katrina. on any given day mother nature can destroy anything built by man.
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♪ ♪ >> welcome to this cnn special report "the katrina the storm that never stopped." i am anderson cooper reporting from new orleans. when katrina slammed into the gulf coast many parts of the city were left under water. most of the residents managed to evacuate. but thousand chose to remain here or didn't have the means to got out before the hit. more than 1800 people lost their lives. you might be surprised to learn
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the exact death toll is still unknown the remains of more than 50 victims were never claimed by any family members. and the remains of more than 30 victims were never even identified. this is a memorial park, built three years after the storm, built in the shape of katrina's eye. that actually houses the remains of the unclaimed, unidentified victims. we are going to take you back in places we restaurant r report -- reported on in 2005. you are going to meet survivors who say for them in so many ways katrina really is the storm that never stopped. >> how are you doing, sir? what happened? your house split in half? >> we got up on the roof. all the way to the roof. and water came and just opened up. divided. >> who was at your house with you? >> my wife. >> where is she now? >> can't find her body.
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she's gone. >> you can't find your wife? >> no. i tried. i hold her hand as tight as i could. she told me. you can't hold me. she said take care of the kids. and the grand kids. >> what is your wife's name in case well can put it out there. >> antonia jackson. >> what is your name? >> harvey jackson. >> where are you going? >> we ain't got nowhere to go. i'm lost. that's all i had. that's all i had. >> reporter: like so many others harvey jackson didn't realize how fast the floodwaters would rise, how dangerous it was to stay at home in biloxi, mississippi. harvey's wife was a good swimmer and didn't want to leave. mr. harvey decided to stay with
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her. deep down she must have sensed the danger because she sent her grandchildren and children away from the house to higher ground. >> this is a picture with my mom and my dad together that we were able to save. >> tony was only 15 when katrina hit. >> i was trying to beg and beg to stay but my dad told me, you know, your mom knows best. just go on and go to your friend's house. >> tonette and hardy were sleeping in their house when the water rushed in. tonie found it rising around their bed. they went quickly to the attic. >> they said as they sat up in the attic the water started rising. the waves, it wasn't just little waves. it became bigger waves an he
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seen other houses collapsing. >> that's exactly what happened to their house. it collapsed on top of them. >> one piece of the house went one way with my mom and the other went one way with him. when he felt the house hit up against the tree, he was able to grab on to a branch and pull himself up in the tree to make sure -- he couldn't swim. as he reached down to grab my mom's hand, he had my mom's hand for a few minutes and he said he could tell he was losing her. >> you can't find your wife? >> no. i tried. i held her hand tight as i could and she told me, you can't hold me. >> i'm sorry.
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. >> tonie was devastated then and still is now. she misses her mom ef single day. >> she was like my best friend, i mean in my eyes no wrong, no wrongdoings, no anything. she was perfect to me. only regret is fi could have her back just for one day. >> tonette's body was never found n. 2012, the judge issued a death certificate based on the amount of time she had been
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missing. it's possible her body was recovered, but she was never identified and never claimed, and that has haunted tonie for all of these years. >> i used to question myself. like maybe i could go out and look and go to different places and find her. >> the family eventually moved to atlanta but they struggled to move on from katrina. the pain of losing tonette never went away. especially for harvey. >> i tried. i tried. i tried. i tried to save her. i tried, baby. why? >> harvey jackson died of cancer in 2013. >> so many years and still the
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same, like it was yesterday. >> like it was yesterday ten years later that's what so many katrina survivors will tell you it feels like. the memories still vivid. the pain still sharp. for so many, especially those who lost loved ones, it's like the storm never stopped. >> it is really hard to get an estimate but i'm sure it is 50% more than the official figure which is around 1800. >> john studies the affects of natural disaster at columbia university and says the official death toll from katrina is far too low. he thinks more than 3500 people perished because of the storm. the reason it's hard to get a final number is because some people were, at first, deemed
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missing like tonette jackson, while others died after being displaced from the storm. >> if you were trying to escape and you rolled your car and died in a car accident the day before, that wouldn't have happened otherwise. and then how many days afterwards do you keep counting? if you died because of the exacerbation of an existing condition, something you would have died of any way, maybe even a few weeks later, should you be counted? there's no uniform standard. >> john mutter has made a list of every death related to katrina, using records from the state, media, and asking anyone out there who knows of a person missing or dead to send him information which he then tries to verify. ten years later, and he is still
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compiling that list, still counting the dead. >> it's a moral issue. we know how many people die in car accidents. we know how many people died in 9/11. down to one. if anything the military know how many people die when there is a natural disaster. we guess. we feel will is something wrong if we don't try to account for everybody. >> every person who died, every body collected in the storm's aftermath had a story to tell. every victim a life worth remembering. when i was in louisiana, mississippi during katrina, it haunted me to see the dead and not know who they were, who they had been. ten years later, and now i finally know the story of at least one of the victims i saw in the streets of new orleans.
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join the nation. this is the levee. in 2005 when the storm hit the levee's breach of water came pouring in to this neighborhood. it was basically wiped out. not only were homes flooded, many homes were ripped off their foundations by the force of the rushing water. following the storm, a lot 0 people in this neighborhood felt they had been abandoned. as you can see, homes have been rebuilt but there are many empty lots. many residents simply never returned. >> ladies and gentlemen, i wish i had better news for you, but we are facing a storm that most of us have feared. i do not want to create panic,
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but i want the citizens to understand that this is very serious and it's of the highest nature. >> the dire warnings came late. the mandatory evacuation order later still. many didn't have the means to leave. some didn't have a car, didn't have a place to go or the money to pay for a hotel room in baton rouge or anywhere else away from a katrina's path. >> others didn't really believe the warning. didn't know the levees would fail. >> our concern was we would have -- because of the size of the storm -- catastrophic flooding in new orleans. in other words the surge pouring in to the city from surrounding areas. >> 2005, this man was working at the hurricane center in lsu. he watched the storm approach, knowing the damage and death it could bring.
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>> it was dread, fear and just man, we have to warn, we got to, we got to, we got to tell as many people as we can to get out. >> reporter: ben spent decades studying hurricanes in the gulf coast, looking at the possibility of a storm so powerful it could cause a surge that would overtop a levee that protected new orleans. when he looked at the models for katrina, he feared this was it. ben knew not everyone would leave. when he got word the levees had failed, all he could do is sit by and watch. >> you know, people are going to die. and you feel helpless. like i'm trying and trying. sorry. still deep scar.
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>> these are some of the first ariel pictures of what new orleans looks like today. >> flooding left 80% of new orleans underwater. >> even though we had predicted it, even though on paper we knew what was going to happen, the first time i actually saw it from the air i just couldn't believe it. it was a sight beyond by own imagination. >> no one who was there at the time could believe what we were seeing. bodies in the streets. human beings decomposing for days. about a week after the storm hit, i was in a small boat on a flooded street in new orleans. we came across the body of a man laying on top of a car. i've never forgotten the moment. it's a horrific sight. there's a man dead on top of a car a few feet away. he drown ed in the floodwaters.
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he's terribly decomposed. there's no way to tell how many people have died here in new orleans. a lot of people drowned in their homes, and rescuers haven't been able to get to them. it is a sickening sight and to think you are in the united states and never seen anything like this in the united states. this is something we have seen in rwanda, the genocide, but to have bodies laying dead a week after the storm is mind boggling. it is still mind boggling to remember exactly what it was that happened here on this spot. this is where we saw that man laying dead on the roof of the car, over by that chain-link fence is where he was. we didn't know his name or how he ended up here. rescue crews were too busy focusing on trying to save those
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living to think of recovering the dead at this point. ten years later, how far, we do know who that man was. his name was jerry peters. he was 64 years old. it turns out his family goes back generations in new orleans. jerry peters' great grandfather founded a small church in the seventh ward in 1918. his name was joseph davis. today the church is run by jerry peters nephew, pastor jerry darby. >> hello. >> so nice to meet you, pastor. >> nice to meet you, sir. >> thank you for having us. it turns out pastor darby was named after his uncle jerry peters. you didn't call him uncle jerry. >> i called him uncle fat . >> fat.
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>> he was chubby and even among his brothers and sisters everyone called him fat. that was his name. >> this is jerry peters dressed as a mardi gras indian, the only photo of him that survived the storm. jerry grew up in new orleans, one of 11 kids and he had two children of his own. >> what was your uncle like? >> very loving person, very supportive. he was my baseball coach, of course. >> he taught you how play. >> taught me to play baseball, football. already the mo >> the morning of the storm, he called his uncle. the if rest of the family were evacuating to houston. it was the last time he would speak to uncle fat. >> it was our understanding that he was going to leave that evening and we were optimistic and hopeful he would be well. >> do you know why he didn't get out? >> he just chose not to, thinking that in the evening time would be conducive to his
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being able to get out. one thing i also mention about him, he was a nonswimmer. >> he didn't know how to swim. >> didn't swim at all and deathly afraid of water. >> jerry peters body was recovered on september 11th when the family got word that pastor darby was devastated. they didn't know how he died or how he ended up floating in the water six blocks from his home. pastor darby didn't know his uncle's body was found on top of a car until now. >> i saw your uncle and i was worried, as a reporter, that i didn't want family members seeing their loved ones on television. i thought so much about him and that's why i wanted to -- when we were able to track you down i wanted to meet you because, there's always -- there's some things you never forget and some images you never forget. and seeing your uncle something
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i'll never forget. and it's nice to know who he was in life. >> absolutely. you know, a lot of people lose loved ones and never know. does it bother you to not know what happened? initially it did. i found some sol lats and comfort in the fact that there are certain things in life that are inexplicable. that's one of them. so, this is some measure gain of solace, too that we share because i did not know whether he was just dumped with everybody else but to know that you vividly a picturesque way from what i'm gathering you saw himself yourself on the car that does bring some measure of comfort to least know that somebody saw him and he wasn't
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just on some heap pile, you know. >> to not be able to put a name to the person was one of the things that always struck me as particularly painful. so to be able to finally put a name to your uncle is for me powerful. ♪ ten years after katrina, jerry peters remains very much alive in the hearts of those who knew him and loved him. they remember the way he lived his life, not just how his life came to an end. ♪ not every victim of the storm died in the floodwaters. some thought they were being taken to safety. some believed they had been promised help. and would find horror in the one place of refuge they were offered. ♪
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this man is a poet. he planned to evacuate the day before katrina hit with only a half tank of gas in his car he didn't think he would make it north to baton rouge. so he and his cousin headed to the super dome. >> i know we had the shelter of last resort would be the super dome. >> not the best environment but at least you will be safe. >> with nagin saying at the last minute, it did give some security in the sense of if you do get stranded, the storm should only last a couple of days. it's the super dome, like what can go wrong? i beg to differ now. but at the time it did sound good. >> shelton knew the storm would be bad and wanted to videotape his experience. >> get some shelter we will be all right. right now they are going to start to pack the super dome. >> this is what he saw when he finally arrived, long lines of
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people waiting to get in. >> up to 30,000 people did make it in to the super dome. when the storm hit, a sense of panic began to spread. >> that's what it is like, loud inside the super dome. >> when the levees breached, the floodwaters rose, the downtown super dome stayed dry. eventually it was overwhelmed with people, so others began to go to the convention center. >> we saw an older woman, someone's mother, someone's grandmother in a wheelchair. her dead body pushed up against the side of the convention center with a blanket over it, on the ground next to her,
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another dead body wrapped in a white sheet. people are literally dying. >> her better freeman was taking care of his 91-year-old mother ethel, she was infirmed and legally blind and had lived through many other storms. when the floodwaters threatened their home, her better decided to leave. >> someone said don't go to the super dome bring her to the convention center. that's what i did. i brought her to the convention center. >> reporter: he said he was told buses were taking people out of new orleans so he wheeled her there through floodwaters thinking they would be safe. at the convention center, however, there was no power, no air conditioning, no medical care. most important of all, there were no buses. people were desperate for help, including ethel and herbert
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freeman. we want help! we want help! we want help! >> i spoke to herbert in 2005 after the storm. >> i was confused, i was angry i. didn't know what to do but i had prayed and the spirit told me to hold out a little longer, that my help was coming, you know. >> reporter: help came too late for ethel freeman. she died 24 hours after reaching the convention center. ten years later he remembers the moment he realized his mother was gone. >> when i went and checked, shake her to get up, you know, and she didn't respond. then a woman said she was a nurse. she said i'm a nurse. let me see what's happening. she said oh, your mom is dead. i said, yeah, i see. so, you know -- >> not only was ethel freeman
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dead, there was nowhere to put her body, so herbert covered her with a blanket given to him by a stranger and left her by the side door. three days later the buses finally came and herbert evacuated leaving his mother's body behind. he wrote his name and phone number on a piece of paper and slipped it inside of one of ethel's pockets hoping someone would find it and give his mother's body back to him once the crisis was over. it would be two months before anyone could tell herbert freeman with his mother's body was taken. ethel freeman's death became a symbol of the government's failure to help those who needed it most. >> i remember seeing that image and it was heart breaking. it reminds us we couldn't worry about the calendar. we need to worry about the clock. we need to move fast because
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more people would die if we didn't speed up the evacuation. >> general russell onore was called in to restore order and coordinate relief. >> get those weapons down. >> first stop was the super dome. >> there was a level of anticipation. i think one of the things was the sound of the the helicopter stop. it was like a constant muttering. people talking among themselves. it was the eerieist thing i have ever heard. there was no other sound. >> like so many others, shelton alexander was ready to get out. >> come and get us. we are stuck here. we are running out of food. it don't seem like nobody's coming at all.
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>> the super dome was breaking down. the toilets overflowed. people were understandably angry. but in the middle of all of this an uplifting moment caught by shelton on his camera. >> we have to come together and do something. you want to march and sing, let's do that. one minute we are like ♪ this little light of mine i'm going to let it shine oh ♪ >>. ♪ this little light of mine i'm going to let it shine shine let's it shine let it shine let it shine ♪ ♪ i'm going to let it shine everywhere i go i'm going to let it shine ♪ everywhere i go ♪ ♪ i'm going to let it shine let it shine let it shine ♪ >> there was darkness.
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we are like there's going to let it shine even in the midst of the dark. i thought that was real powerful. ♪ i'm going to let it shine let it shine let it shine ♪ >> hallelujah! >> reporter: six day air force the storm and finally the superdome and convention center were mostly evacuated. buses took people to places like houston and atlanta. >> a mess still. too painful toll even imagine. >> reporter: shelton's home like to is many in saint bernard parish was destroyed but he returned to rebuild.
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his life has changed a lot since katrina. he lost many family members in the years after the storm and struggled to support himself. he's turned his experiences in to poetry. >> the trucks loaded with supplies, probably more than we needed. they didn't let the trucks through i still can't believe it. third world with country is how we were treated. i wrote this piece. even when i'm dead and gone and the lord calls me home, remember this poem. poetic song inside the super dome. >> reporter: new orleans wasn't the only city to suffer from the storm. in the days of katrina, i was in waveland, mississippi, a town that saw its own share of destruction and grief. ♪
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we are greatful fush the military access brought to bear. i want to thank them for their efforts tonight. yong i don't know if you have heard, maybe you have announced it, but congress is going to an unprecedented session to pass a $10 billion supplemental bill tonight to keep fema and the red cross up and operating.
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>> excuse me, senator, i'm sorry for interrupting. i haven't heard that. because the last four days i have been seeing dead bodies in the streets here in mississippi. to listen to politicians thanking each other and complimenting each other, i have to tell you there are a lot of people here who are very upset, angry and frustrated and when they hear politicians thanking one another it just -- it cuts them the wrong way right now. ♪ >> reporter: right after katrina struck, before going to new orleans, i spent several days in mississippi reporting from waveland. there were houses awl all along here? >> all gone. >> reporter: the town took a direct hit from the storm. many of the residents who survived lost everything. [ crying ] >> it's from our room. >> reporter: it's devastating.
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i mean -- >> oh, gosh. ♪ waveland looked like it had been wiped off the map. i went out with the search and rescue team from virginia looking for the dead. at this house, a neighbor said four members of a family had drowned inside. they have been inside for 48 hours now. some of the rescue workers break in the home, open the windows, the smell is overwhelming. it just goes down the block. christina and edgar lived here with their teenager sons, edgar jr. and karl. the two boys were handicapped so the family decide ed not to evacuate. when the floodwaters rushed in,
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all four drowned in their home a month after their bodies were recovered, i met their daughters, laura and serena. >> this was the kitchen. this is where they had died. >> reporter: they are the only remaining members of the family and had to identify the bodies of their parents and brothers. what's going to happen tomorrow? >> we don't know. we're basically living day by day. >> reporter: this is the house where edgar and christina lived and died with their two teenager sons. the house itself has been rebuilt, refurbished. there's another family living here now. ten years ago, 95% of the homes in waveland were damaged in hurricane katrina. there's little sign of that destruction but you talk to anybody who lived through it and they all say the same thing, they will never forget what happened here.
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>> that's edgar, that's my dad at a wrestling match. >> do you think much about katrina? >> all the time. >> all the time even though it has been ten years. >> all the time. >> she lives not far from the house where her parents and brothers died. she has her own family now, but for her the storm has never really stopped. >> so sad. >> now you see how the blinds are, after the water receded, the way my dad landed, he was looking out the kitchen windows because his elbow is like this on the counter. >> did you ever figure out what happened to your parents and brothers? >> no. mom was a good swimmer.
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only thing i can think of is my mom watched my dad and brothers drowned and i believe she drowned intentionally with them. >> she didn't want to leave them? >> right. of course not. >> reporter: the bane sisters hope to move away from waveland and the memories of what happened here. even though much of the gulf coast has been rebuilt there are reminders of the storm everywhere. some too big to ignore.
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>> what's going to happen if they don't get out of here. >> two died on the ramp waiting to get out in this very spot. >> two died here. >> two tw died here this week because we couldn't get them out. >> before katrina hit, this was the biggest hospital in new orleans, but the busiest emergency room in the country. >> this was our auditorium, and now it is the emergency department. >> reporter: charity hospital was founded to serve the poor in
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the 1700s. in 2005, it was doing exactly that, providing medical care for the poor, for the uninsured in new orleans. when katrina struck, the hospital flooded. patients, some of them very sick, were left stranded. >> basically back to primitive medicine, just guessing and treating patients for whatever we think they have. >> reporter: dr. roderick bennett was a rez dment 2005. he was 29 years old then and looking forward to a long career at charity. >> there was a point where i am saying the patients can make it a day, now two days and third day we don't have the supplies to do this. >> the power went out and emergency generators were unreliable. >> we have no showers or toilets or running water at all. >> the biggest problem is keeping patients alive and hydrated. no power, no machines to help.
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there was no word on when the patients could evacuate. >> the patients i was most concerned about were the intensive care patients because a lot of them were with elderly, already very sick before this happened. no air conditioning, it's 96 degrees, terribly humid. just by being that ill in itself makes you prone to dehydration. they are already struggling for their lives. >> reporter: dr. bennett and the rest of the staff found ways to make the days bearable. they bonded with each other, bonded with the patients, tried to keep spirits up. >> people getting hair cuts, people singing. ♪ joy is mine joy is mine
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♪ >> it was tough but it was -- there were some bright moments, as well. >> it's not katrina. >> reporter: the brightest moment came when they got word the choppers were finally coming and it had been almost five days. the doctors and nurses at charity had kept all of their patients alive. the only ones who died died outside waiting for helicopters. their bodies stored in the stairwell. the staff were the last to leave. >> it is definitely tough seeing the places you love so much just sitting here now. >> reporter: charity never reopened. for a long time dr. bennett avoided passing by the empty
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hospital. it was too painful to see it untouched since katrina. he's moved out of new orleans and now practices medicine in florida, but he hopes one day to return to the city he still loves. charity hospital is in some ways an unofficial memorial and unintended reminder of what happened here ten years ago. but built on top of the old charity hospital cemetery is another memorial built specifically to remember. the katrina memorial which houses the remains of the unclaimed, unidentified victims of the storm, more than 80 of them. >> the kid stay with you the most. >> reporter: and you saw them? >> yeah. >> the medical examiner was tasked for identifying the dead recovered from the storm. >> the condition of the bodies, they are totally unidentified. >> like a puzzle. >> very much. >> it was difficult to say the
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at least. many bodies were badly deteriorated from the floodwaters and heat. the job was never finished. funding ran out in 2006. just as the failure to reopen charity hospital haunts dr. bennett, the fact that so many dead were never identified pains him. >> i feel like i left me mission uncompleted. >> left a hole in you. >> oh, yeah, it will always be a hole in me. it is about one person, not the masses and if you didn't identify that one person and give them to their loved one to give them closure. ♪ >> reporter: the memorial is the final quiet resting place for those who died a violent death. unplanned, unidentified victims of the storm.
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>> the coast largely rebuilt, the levees strengthened and the places and people are not the same as they were. parts of new orleans are thriving, pulsing with life.
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other parts remain abandoned, passed by without a glance. ♪ ♪ new orleans noets ♪ ♪ snooets ♪ ♪ ♪ new orleans where i want to stay ♪ i can play my music every night and day there's no other city like new orleans ♪ >> reporter: it was the worst natch lal disaster ever to hit
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the united states. for some the storm just never stopped. ♪ a community is in mourning after yet another shooting incident. this one happened on live television. how the families are pledging to honor the victims. desperate journeys. thousands of asylum seekers trek trying to get though europe. and hurricane katrina ten years on. we look at how the storm changed new orleans teaches its kids. from cnn world headquarters here in atlanta, i'm george howell. this is cnn newsroom. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. we s

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