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cnn's polo sandoval has >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. the suicide note is coming together for investigators on the ground trying to paint a picture of who flanigan was. evidence surfacing, suggesting he may have planned to make it out alive. this morning, evidence of an apparent get away plan found inside 41-year-old flanigan's car. he had a wig, shawl and sunglasses, multiple sis ens plates and a pistol. the gunman was unable to evade place as they closed in on him. this is video of his one-bedroom apartment. the refrigerator was covered with photos of himself, warning signs of the anger fueling the
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murderous attack on adam ward and alison parker. in 2000, he was fired from a station in northern florida. >> i was concerned about just his middle status and whether he needed counseling. >> reporter: in 2013, he caused a disturbing scene after being fired from wdbd. >> on the way out, he handed a wooden cross to the news director and said, you'll need this. >> reporter: prior to being let go, he made them feel threatened and extremely uncomfortable. a station's manager said flanigan was asked to seek mental health assistance. >> i'm not saying let's take away guns, i'm saying lit's make it harder for people with mental issues. >> reporter: in an interview with chris cuomo they say it has to change. >> there has to be a way to
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force politicians that are cowards and in the pockets of the nra to have sensible laws so crazy people can't get guns. >> reporter: a father's crew said for stricter gun laws. ♪ >> reporter: a rally against gun violence with a vigil in front of the station thursday night. this morning, really that makeshift memorial continues to grow outside the studios here. look closer and you can see the flames of the candles continue to burn. chris? >> the people down there, this is only just beginning. thank you very much. appreciate the reporting this morning. >> let's bring in former atf agent. you can help us. one, the forensic part of the investigation and what it tells us. you dealt with them from a policy standpoint and the reality on the ground.
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when you hear about the wigs, the extra ammo and the items in the car, to you, does it suggest a plan or randomness of the madness? >> it suggests he may have had a broader plan. a cold and calculated and planned attack. there may be certain elements of the crime we may never know. >> how do you then rationalize how he went from having a plan to killing himself? circumstances? >> it could be circumstances. let's face it. when he committed the crime, he didn't disguise himself. there were cameras at the site. they identified the suspect quickly. when was he going to disguise himself? there are certain elements that point to mental illness. >> why have all that extra ammo and not have it on him at the time of the murder? he had it in the car.
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also, we are not dealing with the most stable train of thought, so it's difficult to analyze it. that takes us to the bigger issue that you are pointing to. everyone is suggesting mental illness. we don't know about a diagnosis or treatment or medicine or anything from the family other than their condolences. what do you think? >> here we are, two weeks after the last one, pointing to mental illness because of his behavior. he left a cross. threatening. he threatened employees. he went out in a rage. you can be angry -- >> the suicide note, it was called a manifesto. really it's ramblings. i was influenced by cho. that's my boy right there. there's one point. he's talking serial killers. you don't have to be mentally ill to be bad minded. he talks about racism is lot. is this a mentally ill person or
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a mean, self-loathing, vicious, racist person? >> some of the things preceding a crime might point to an avenue of mental illness. the crime was cold and calculated. there was a plan. when you look at the search warrant return, he planned it out. then, he has extra magazines indicating he may have wanted to do more crime. then he commits suicide. >> not following through, not being thoughtful doesn't mean you are ill. he went on trial. he was captured. do you think he had a shot? >> i highly doubt it. >> the racism isn't being talked about as much. he believed, probably wrongly, that he was a victim of racial things. now the new reporting about what he thought this lovely young reporter was saying that was racist were probably things he was grabbing out of context. when she said going out into the field, which we say all the time, he took it as a primal reference.
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he was off. you can be off and not be sick. he talked about race as much as anything else as a motivation for actions. >> it brings us back to the broader issue. in trying to determine who should have guns and who shouldn't have guns, there is that question on the form of being adjudicated. he was not adjudicated. several suspects, mass shootings had not been adjudicated. we have to start looking at the form, the laws, coordination of the laws and what we are doing here. >> you dealt with weapons in the field all the time. you know there's a robust black market for guns. >> yes. >> a secondary market. there's sharing among gun owners that doesn't deal with or make them run around registration. do you believe there's the tolerance, the ability within government to make laws tighter than right now despite the heart break and pain of parent that is is real? >> i don't know if there's tolerance, but this is the
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united states of america. anything can be done if we put our minds to it. there's intersection between mental illness, how we treat it, the intersect between who should have a gun, who can purchase a gun and the idea of strengthening it to ensure the incidents don't keep happening over and over again. >> i hear you. i know that statistically kinds up that these shootings are irrelevant. they are 1% of all shootings overall. doesn't matter. they speak to issues we should be doing better on. the question is how. in canada, you want to buy a handgun. they say how is everything? is everything okay? they don't want to do that. who is they? that's what alison's father is talking about. do you think we need to do more in terms of who gets guns? >> absolutely. >> people say there are hundreds of laws on the books. enforce what is there. is it that simple?
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>> no, we enforce the laws congress enacts. in virginia, a gun friendly state, the laws are different. you can buy high capacity magazines. you can lay away a gun. you can't in new jersey and new york. there needs to be a state and legislative changes. not to strengthen the laws so much to impede the ability of firearms. time after time, we have to wake up. this is happening too often. >> there's no law in the books that would have kept him from buying weapons. there's no law on the books that would mandate he get evaluated, held over, look at the act or anything else or treatment for what you may have thought was meantal illness. what do the conditions tell us? there's more that can be done or is there? thank you for the perspective on the evidence and what the iger issues, how they play out.
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alison? >> donald trump stirring up controversy. once again, talking about a silent majority. it's a term many find arablely charged. all this about his campaign fund raising. let's go to sara murray. good morning, sara. >> good morning, alisyn. you are right. donald trump is stirring up controversy in more ways that one. what he's doing behind closed doors. this morning, the gop front-runner. the washington outsider caught in the act, acting like a politician. >> give yourself a nice applause. wow. >> reporter: this time, stirring up debate after using what some consider yet another controversial phrase, the silent majority. you have a silent majority of this country that feels abused,
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that feels forgotten, that feels mistreated. it's a term that hasn't been brought up in years. people haven't heard that term in many years. it's sort of interesting as to why. >> reporter: the main reason, people say the phrase coined by mixon. >> the great silent majority -- >> reporter: had undertones. trump ruling voters with the promise to reject contributions. >> a couple weeks ago, someone came to me, i would like to put money in your campaign. $5 million. i said i don't want it. i don't want your money. >> reporter: trump appears to be saying one thing and doing another. cnn learned the candidate is appearing at his own fund raising events, both for a superpac supporting him and a group that accepts unlimited contributions and keeps donors secret. donors yearning for an up close
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look at the bravado need only come to the campaign events. >> i don't wear a toupee. it's my hair. i swear. come here. is it mine? >> it is. >> say it, please. >> yes, i believe it is. >> thank you. >> now that donor spirit will be live and well today. trump is traveling to massachusetts where he's hosting an e vont called a fund-raiser. trump insisting it is not a fund raising event. chris? >> thank you very much. let's flip to the other party now. new accusations this morning adding fuel to the hillary clinton e-mail fire storm. a conservative group claims e-mails show hillary clinton and her state department aids made plans days after the benghazi attack to set up a slush fund, citizen zs united says the state department e-mails it obtained
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show clinton and her aides mixed government business with the fund raising efforts the chief of staff to then secretary of state clinton denies each and all allegations. >> breaking news, cnn learning three people were arrested in connection with the death of at least 70 migrants. the decomposed bodies found in an abandoned truck in austria near the border of hungry. arwa damon is live in hungry with the latest. what do we know, arwa? >> reporter: xwrou know, alisyn, they are trying to figure out what kind of criminal network was behind the horrific deaths. it's an indication of byproduct of europe's failure in dealing with this tide of migrants and refugees. the likes of which they have not seen since world war ii coming across the entire region. the problem is that europe is not handling this adequately.
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look behind me. this is hungary. they spent hours here. there's no shelter. there's no medical assistance. they can't communicate with authorities. i can't communicate with the hungarian aide. they keep telling me -- >> we are having communication problems with arwa. you can see what she's trying to do there, explain the plight of migrants. we'll try to get the shot back and her back. also breaking overnight, a student shot at savannah state university in georgia has died. christopher was a junior for the area. the police are on the case. no arrests have been made so far. florida's governor advising people to be prepared as erika continues the march across the atlantic. it battered the caribbean,
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blamed for four deaths after pounding an island with torrential rains. you can see the rushing, muddy water, causing building to collapse. my goodness. erika threatening the southeastern u.s. coast next week. let's get to chad myers for the latest on erika's path. how is it looking, chad? >> not what you went to bed with last night. the models have changed. pay attention here a little bit. the storm, not forecast to be a hurricane anymore, but a strong tropical storm that runs over florida. it's going to run over haiti and the dominican republic, maybe cuba. yesterday, they were here now they are back to the west. significant rainfall no matter where the storm goes. this is going to be a rainmaker, not a wind maker. you saw there, in dominica.
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it travels over the caribbean, not over cuba and the dr, it could go over the bahamas. it will go to florida, the keys and up into here. see how it stays over florida for a very long time. watching the san juan radar right now, i believe this is the center of circulation here as it moves toward the dominican republic. watch for flooding there. guys, back to you. >> sometimes it's good to test the model. you never know what is going to happen. appreciate it. we'll check back with you in a bit. donald trump is using the term silent majority now. he's doing it intentionally saying he haven't heard it in a long time. is it okay to use? do you believe silent majority is code for a racial situation or not? we discuss. ♪
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charged. lets's talk about this with nia-malika henderson. nia, let me start with you. trump has been using the term, silent majority in many speeches. let's play that for you and get your response to what the term means. listen to this. >> so, you have a silent majority of this country that feels abused, that feels forgotten, that feels mistreated. it's a term that hasn't been brought up in years. people haven't heard that term in many years. i's sort of interesting as to why. there are all different reasons. i think it's a detriptive term. every time i speak i have people. they want to see wins and victory. >> nia, what do you make of that term? >> you know, i think the term goes back to richard nixon.
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in that sense, he was talking about working class white people, who at that time, made up 80% of the voting population. now they are 40%. it's unclear to me whether that's what trump is doing there. if you look at a lot of his crowds, certainly the crowd in alabama, for instance, it is working class white people that he seems to be galvanizing. others are attracted to his candidacy, too. the rhetoric he's using, take the country back, make america great, it aligns with tea party rhetoric as well. it is that silent majority of the coalition, again, working class white people. in some ways, back then, at least, it was purposeful that they weren't talking about liberals or people that were active in wanting to see social and cultural change in america. that's what it was back then. whether or not he's trying to en vogue that and people in the audience get that is unclear.
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>> purposefully or not, he is invoking. let's take it up a notch for you, jackie. back in '69, what was nixon doing? he was trying to counter the culture. what is trump doing? arguably going after political correctness. you could see it as identifying with the same groups. do you think it is a coincidence there's reporting that a lot of white supremacist groups whether trump wants them or not. he may not want people like us, but he is resinating with us and saying the kinds of things we want to hear said. >> he is appealing to this disenfranchised, you know, white base of the republican party. when you have someone like david duke saying they like you, it's not really good. you are seeing it reflect in the polls. you see that most of his support is with white voters. when you look at the cross tabs
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for black voters, hispanic voters he has no support. it's very, very low. if he wants to go the distance, he has to broaden his base. at this point, he is really capitalizing on the passions of this one set of electorates. >> who doesn't respond to the make america great again? you don't have to feel disenfranchised or be part of a minority group. you know, that's a compelling argument. >> absolutely. he didn't stop there, though. you said make it great, i'm with you. it's not code for anything. this could be. >> when you pair it with comments about immigrants and immigration, it does start to flush out a different way. >> i think he taps into it. a lot of people, whether it's african-americans, women, gay people, they feel like america is progressing. they don't want to go back to
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the bad old days. it taps into a white nostalga. >> i don't think trump is trying to court this group. there's nothing in anything else he said. >> the white supremacist. >> yeah. or any anti-anything group. he's a law and order guy. is this going to be the impact of a strategy he may not see right now? that's a question of how he handles it and becomes their candidate. >> meanwhile, hillary clinton and her campaign. i know you have looked into this. can you explain the e-mail controversy. it appears, based on the e-mails, there was some, possibly inappropriate cross pollnization between her staff and the clinton foundation?
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>> people at the center of this are top aides coordinating things for the clinton foundation and the state department as well and using this personal e-mail. think about voters and if they are going to parse the details of this and make their decisions based on this. again, this is the drip, drip, drip of this candidacy, of clinton's candidacy. on one hand it is strong, the other hand it is flailing. democrats saying she's got to get a handle on this. you saw her do this. she understands why people have questions about this. she feels she's going to answer them. she's not making jokes about it the way she was, talking snap chat and wiping her server clean. this is a dimfferent footing thy are on. to a lot of democrats, it's about time. >> when you talk to insiders, you get two takes. to the people in the political media and the talk shows, they
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love going on about this for every detail. it's nice coverage, gives you something to talk about. to regular people, they see it as a metaphore. i don't know what she did and didn't do. it was wrong, she knows it was wrong, she didn't handle it the right way. i don't trust how she would handle any other information. is that the caution? >> that is the caution. that's why we have nervous democrats. when you look at the polls, she is way in the hole of whether she is honest and trustworthy. you wonder how she will get out of it. for politicians, the easiest two words are, i'm sorry. you haven't seen that. at the end of the day, is it too little too late? are voters going to trust her? they haven't been able to give a clear answer on the e-mail scandal. it's starting to bear out and make people nervous. >> jackie, nia, great to see you. have a nice weekend.
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else. funeral arrangements are set for tuesday for the camera man. florida is on alert as tropical storm erika gained strength. it left four people dead in a path. several people are missing at this hour. the storm forecast to reach florida on monday possibly as a hurricane. >> boy, the dangers. see how fast it is coming in? barely time to get away. jurors are going to resume deliberations in the rape trial. they deliberated three hours after getting the case thursday. now, he is accused of sexually assaulting a then, 15-year-old student last year at the elite st. paul's school in new hampshire. the defense claim is the encounter was consensual and the two never had sex. >> now, chris' favorite story, he may be the fastest man, but he cannot outrun a camera man on
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wednesday's shooting in roanoke, virginia, reignited the debate over gun violence. the father of alison parker making sure his daughter's murder was not in vain. what do the presidential candidates plan to do to curb violence like this? let's join senator rand paul from idaho. thank you for being on "new day." let's start with this terrible tragedy we have seen in roanoke, virginia. we interviewed the father of alison parker here on "new day." he feels the way so many americans do. that is, something has to change, as a result of this. >> if i have to be the john walsh of gun control and, you know, look, i'm for the second amendment, but there has to be a way to force politicians that are cowards and in the pockets
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of the nra to come to grips and make sense, have sensible laws so crazy people can't get guns. >> senator, he feels as though politicians have been would you ardly on this topic. what do you think has to change? >> you know, my heart goes out to him. i'm a father. i have three kids. i can't imagine how sad it would be to lose a child in the prime of her life. i mean, i can't imagine what kind of grief he's going through. i understand that grief. i'm not so sure that there is an easy answer for this. obviously, a lot of the crimes that have been committed are people that have been mentally ill. i don't know about this particular thing. there seems to be workplace problems with this guy. something was not right mentally for this guy. some of the mass murders we have had have come from young men
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that are mentally deranged. the first thing we learn of it is with their first crime. some of the gun that is have been used in many instances have been registered and purchased illegally. i wish there was an easy answer. a great deal of sympathy is apparent for this father. i don't know what the answer is. typically, people that commit crimes don't obey laws to begin with. i'm not sure additional laws for those of us who are law-abiding necessarily stops them from having weapons. >> there is no answer. that part is clear. there has to be a place to start. let me tell you a few facts we know about this. we believe this gunman bought the gun legally in virginia. he used a glock 19. many call it an assault weapon, similar to the one used in the virginia tech massacre. in australia, after a terrible mass murder there in 1996,
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australians passed a law to ban weapons. they did not have another mass murder since then. is there something to be said about getting them out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them? >> the sad thing about people who are sort of convicted to have a homicidal rage and kill people is people kill people with a variety of different means. unfortunately, we have seen it in japan and china people killed with clubs, people killed with knives. >> but they can't do quite the damage. without a semiautomatic weapon, they can't do quite the damage they can with a gun with 100 rounds of ammunition. >> yeah, i know. i think there are many instances which a bow and arrow, a knife, a club, somebody with their bare hands. the thing is, it's a horrible tragedy. we should be concerned with the victims. to have a debate over how to
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stop violence, we are not moving guns or placing obstacles in front of law-abiding citizens works. i think insanity, craziness, mentally insane, there has to be a way of preventing guns in the hands of those who are insane. if you are insane, you should never have a weapon. we have the ability to try to deter that. a lot of times, the first time a person commits a crime is the first evidence they are criminally insane. >> that is interesting coming from you as a doctor that you would be comfortable with sharing of records to show someone is insane. there's a new poll, let me put it up for you. it shows where everybody stands now. trump is still leading. he's at the highest mark thus far with 28%. his closest competitor is carson
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at 12%. then, senator, you in the latest poll are at 2%. what do you think is not resinated with voters? >> you know, i think it depends on which poll you look at. when you look at my candidacy poll against hillary clinton, we do quite well. in many polls, we leave hillary clinton in the purple states, the battleground states and trump lags far behind. i think donald trump tapped into anger with washington. that's why i ran for office, i was angry with washington and angry with fake conservatives who promise to be conservative and weren't. i think donald trump is a fake conservative. even with something as precious to conservatives as property rights, trump is big that eminent domain should be used. it's not my conception of property rigs and i don't think
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most conservatives agree with that. as they find out trump is a fake conservative, the numbers are shrink. we are very early. when you ask people, are you decided, two-thirds of the people in the polls are really undecided on who they are going to vote for. >> before you get to the match up with hillary clinton, you have to win the gop primary. are you going to change anything about your strategy going forward? >> i think part of what you have to do is sell that you are the best candidate to beat hillary clinton. i think that is true. one of the interesting things is i hear the poll and wonder about them the same as everybody else does z. i have been traveling throughout the west and we get 500 to 1,000 people at every speech. our crowds are bigger than they have ever been. if i didn't see this or read the polls, i would think we are doing better than we are. we should get rid of the tax code, 14.5% for everybody.
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government should be smaller. we need more personal freedom, get rid of the government, collecting phone records. that's my message. it is my message, i hope it resinates. >> you have been traveling not just throughout the country, but you have gone to haiti. i know you want to tell us what you did and saw there. >> well, i went with the university of utah and they have done 80 missions around the world. i have been part of their mission trips the last two years. i went to guatemala last year and haiti this year. we did cat rack surgeries. you think politics can be frustrating, you are right. in medicine, we unify around a goal, someone is blind, reremove the cataract and they can see again. there's nothing more rewarding than seeing that smile. >> senator, you are helping people who can't see see again. do you ever feel as though maybe you can, more directly impact
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people's lives as a doctor than even as president? >> well, i definitely miss it. i still practice medicine in kentucky for those who don't have money or insurance. i do it around the world. i do miss it. i wish i could do it more often. it is more rewarding in the sense you can see the results of what you have done. yes, i want it to continue to be a big part of my life. i am concerned about our country that if i sit back and do nothing, we are being swallowed by an ocean of debt and someone has to speak out about it. >> if you become president, will you still do eye surgeries? >> jokingly i said we are going to turn the lincoln bedroom into a surgery suite. i will. i will continue to do that. i have enjoyed doing that. i am looking forward to the next trip to operate on indian reservations next year. >> you may have a distinction as the only presidential candidate
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who has left the campaign trail to go and perform surgeries. i know that makes you feel good. >> thank you. >> senator rand paul. thanks so much for being on "new day." great to talk to you. >> thanks for having me. >> it's good to get to where his head is now look k at the polls. hopefully that helps you decide who is for you in this race because you have to hear a voice other than donald trump's. his rhetoric is being and coming under fire. why? he brought back the term on your screen now, silent majority. it means different things to different people. he says it's just everybody out there who wants to make america great again. there are groups clinging to it for reasons he may not like. decide for yourself. did you know that good nutrition
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donald trump wants you to know he is reviving an old political term, the silent majority. it dates back to a speech richard nixon gave in 1969. some say it's racially charged. nixon said it's a way to get the americans to support him. trump says he's trying to energize everybody who wants to make america great. let's bring in a spokesperson for the tea party and errol lewis. my thread on social media is abuzz because i brought up what is a fact. a lot of people don't like it. he says silent majority doesn't have racial undertone.
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using this phrase, could it backfire? is there a price for bringing it back? >> bringing up racial politics is the problem you refer to. will this phrase do it? it didn't strike me it was going to trigger that. i'm old enough to remember when clinton talked about it. it's aspirational. maybe there's more of us than we think. he's pushing people along. where he does play racial politic that is will backfire or come to light is that he's never disavowed this birtherism. he's said publicly, there won't be another black public for generations because of obama's performance. this is not something people are going to forget. he throws off the comments.
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the way he talked about immigrants smacked him as if not playing on ethnicity. >> he said go back to univision. it's going to be remembered. he doesn't have to have political consequences in the short term. is he playing racial politics? >> katrina, you don't hear the term silent majority at all as racially charged. what does it say to you? >> it's two words. he is talking about the million ofs americans sitting out because they are tired of politicians with talking points making promszs they don't keep. it's a big deal in washington, leaving the taxpayer behind. racial undertones, really? you have a party in 2011 that voted to keep an original jim crow law on the books. biden is saying change, racial
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undertones. everyone laughs when biden says it. >> there is a common thread between trump and nixon. they both had roger alles conversations. this is a messaging that i recognize. silent majority is a fox messaging. give voice to people who feel they haven't had a voice for a while. it could be as easy as that. >> there's the other roger, roger stone, another adviser, a nixon guy. they have every right to do that. people who feel they are disenfranchised because there's a working class and white and conservative doesn't mean you write them out of the political system. you want to bring them into the political system if you are bringing votes. that is what donald trump is trying to do. on the other hand, there's a responsible and irresponsible way to do it. that's the concern.
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>> that's the point. >> a politically correct way to do it. >> i think you have to be careful with that phrase. i got in trouble with it on this show because i put too much weight on what people say, not what they do. this is different. he wants to be a leader. i am with you. i do not think he's trying to divide america and create hate groups. when they resinate with your message and say we like what trump is saying, does he have a duty to say i don't care what you like, i'm not about you, i'm about other americans. do you think that's part of his responsibility? >> i don't know. i think he might do that. trump never said i don't like you people other than we have to get illegals out of the country, which is the law. >> it's a big stake. that's a lot -- i don't think you can gloss over that. when you say all 11 million of you have to dpo and the rapist stuff. >> when you take little soundbytes like that, it sounds
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really bad. when you talk little soundbytes it sounds bad. >> seay it in a way it sounds good. >> deportation is part of the law. he's talking what the law is. you don't have to like it, it's the truth. >> if you think he's talking the law, then he would have everybody on his side. >> that's not true. >> nobody says that. the most liberal person in the world on this issue doesn't say it should not matter if you break the law or not. that's not a viable position. what's gotten him in deep with people is he seems divisive on the issue. you understand that. the question is, with silent majority, should he correct that perception and use it the way he may intend it and everybody wants to make america great. >> if people want clarification, trump will give it. how he gives that will be totally up to him. >> that was a good nonanswer. >> it's interesting to have this
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debate with you guys. thanks so much for the lively discussion. be sure to tune in for the next republican debate. you'll hear a lot more debate on this subject and more. this is september 16 on cnn. set your dials now. new things going on in politics and with the investigation into the death of the journalists in virginia. let's get to it. police found disguises in his car. >> evidence of an apparent get away plan. >> a cold and calculated and planned attack. >> we need to celebrate a life well lived. a light and a fire in him. >> i'm not going to rest until i see something get done here. >> you have a silent majority in this country that feels abused, that feels forgotten, that feels mistreated. >> it is a great reality tv show, isn't it? in between him insulting everybody. >> donald trump is a fake conservative. >> if he becomes the nominee, it will ruin our party. >> look like a movie set of an
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armageddon scene. >> the tenth anniversary of hurricane katrina. >> this is a city that's slowly, unmistakably moving forward. announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela. >> new details in the works for the killer that shot and killed two news crew members. a search of his car turned audiotape items and suggest he was not planning on taking his life after the attack. >> there was a call to action from the father of alison parker. he is ready take on anyone standing in his way when it comes to better gun control. we are going to talk to the wbgd anchor who was on air. family and friends are planning to say good-bye to parker and cameraman adam ward. let's get to polo sandoval live
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in roanoke. how is it there this morn sng it's still very early. what have you been feeling on the ground. >> reporter: it's still early. the case is coming together for investigators. you have the evidence, the witnesses and also that chilling suicide note that was left behind. it all now paints a clear picture of who vester flanigan was and what may have led him to commit a terrible act. now, evidence suggesting he planned to make it out alive. >> reporting live in the news room -- >> reporter: this morning, evidence of a get away plan found inside his rental car. a search warrant revealing he had a wig, a shawl, sunglasses along with multiple license plates, a to-do list, six magazines and a pistol. the gunman was unable to evade police, shooting himself as they closed in on him. this is video of his one-bedroom
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apartment obtained on nbc. you can see the refrigerator covered with photos of himself. in 2000, he was fired from a station in northern florida. >> i was concerned about just his mental status and whether he needed counseling. >> reporter: in 2013, he caused a scene after being fired from wdbg lashing out. >> he handed a wooden cross to the news director and said you'll need this. >> prior to being let go, documents show co-workers made them feel threatened and uncomfortable. the station's manager said flanigan was asked to seek mental health assistance. >> i'm not saying take away guns, make it harder for people with mental issues. >> reporter: parker's father
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says gun regulations have to change. >> there has to be a way to force politicians that are cowards and in the pockets of the nra to have sensible laws so that crazy people can't get guns. >> the father's crew said for stricter gun laws. ♪ >> reporter: a rally against gun violence at a rally in front of the station thursday night. now, this morning, we are told that a search warrant is revealing flanigan texted a friend moments after the shooting indicating he had, quote, done something stupid. i can tell you, the focus here on the ground is not on the killer, but his victims and outside the studios you can see the growing makeshift memorial, balloons, flowers, candles. it's a testment of the support for a team that continues to
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work through the tears. back to you. >> thanks so much for all of that. joining us is pastor troy keyton. pastor, good morning. we understand you have new information for us about vickie's condition. >> good morning, alisyn. yesterday was a good day for vickie and her recovery. she went through a second surgery. early in the afternoon was able to come out of her medically induced coma and speak to her family. she is very positive and exuding the energy and positive personality that vickie is known for. we are very optimistic and thankful for all the prayers and excited about vickie's recovery. >> that is good news, pastor. we are happy to hear she is making progress. she was shot in the back. according to her husband, she has lost a kidney, lost part of
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her colon. she will walk again, is that what you understand? >> yes. we certainly -- it was a very serious thing that happened to vickie. but, her prognosis is good. they are excited about her recovery. you know, she was up and moving around shortly after being shot. that was a very good sign. now is on the road to recovery after a couple surgeries. >> pastor, when we spoke on "new day" to her husband, because she had been in that medically induced coma, he hadn't been able to have many conversations with her about what she remembered. she is lucid and speaking coherently. has she shared with you what she remembers of the incident? >> she has not shared with me the details of her memory of this incident. she is speaking with her family.
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vickie is an extraordinary person. she is an excellent executive director for the chamber of commerce, which i'm the chairman of the board. we are so blessed to have her. she is speaking to them and we are very, very excited about her recovery. she is telling them, you know, i think she remembers things and certainly has some vivid memories of what went on. she's very thankful to be alive. one of the first things she expressed to her family was her concern and condolences for the other victims. that was one of the first things that her daughter shared with me that she shared with them. so, we are encouraged today with vickie's recovery. >> i have a few more details, pastor, because her husband was on with don lemon on cnn last night. he says vickie told her family that she does remember a great deal of the account and she believes if the gunman had had more ammunition, she would not
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be alive. this terrible incident galvanized people in your community including alison parker's father. they don't want the deaths to be in vain. they want something positive to come out of it. how do you think vickie and her family will move forward? >> well, they are a very strong family. they will move forward with the love and encouragement with a wonderful community and close-knit family. you know, yeah, if there was something we could do to prevent these kinds of things from happening that are happening all too often, of course, we are all in favor of that. it's complex, as you are well aware of, i'm sure. you know, her family believes that, you know, he wanted to hurt somebody. he was going to do that regardless of the means. >> pastor, as a man of god, how do you explain when horrible
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things happen to good people. >> there is good and evil in this world. when a child takes a cookie out of the cookie jar, sometimes it's because their parents didn't feed him, sometimes because he didn't know any better and sometimes because he's rebellious. i don't know why people do these things. i know there is such a thing as evil. we look to god and rest in the confident, loving, good, wise and faithful god in these moments and know that he has all of our best interests at heart. >> pastor thank you so much for being on "new day" with those words and the update on vicki. we wish her the speediest recovery. >> thank you, alisyn. >> i tell you the divine hand that she got shot in the back, so close to the spine. she was walking and talking
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right after. she walked to the ambulance, her husband told us, yesterday. her recovery is going to take a while. in this terrible experience, she is the lucky one. >> absolutely. sometimes it gets worse before it gets better. right afterwards, you are pumped up with adrenaline. her progression is going well. >> look, this story brings up and provokes a lot of big issues, whether it's mental health or about what the pastor is saying, human decency. we have to remember, at the end of the day, it's about three people and their extended family. it happened on live tv. the anchor, who was anchoring at the time it happened was kimberly mcbroom. she is the morning anchor and joining us now. we know you are very busy. the way you handled this as a
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voice and face of your family, your joined anchors in a moment of silence. obviously thrks is affecting you in a way that goes far beyond the role as a journalist. how are you guys this morning? >> we are keeping each other together. we are hugging, we are crying, we are holding hands during the newscast. we are a family. i have said that a million times in the last couple days. we are. that's what's getting us through this. the outpouring of love that we have gotten, not just here in the community, but all over the world and social media. i have heard from people in nigeria, scotland, england, canada, of course all over the country through e-mail, twitter, facebook. you name it. we have gotten food. we have gotten cards, flower, balloons. if you have seen what our station parking lot looks like, it's a loving tribute to find people that we lost. we lost two family members on wednesday morning. we are still trying to come to
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terms with that. i know that alison and adam would want us to keep doing. this is what we do. we are wdbj 7. adam's twitter handle was do work. he believed in that. this morning, we were looking at each other going, do work, do work. we are doing it for adam and alison. it's why we are here. >> remarkable -- >> it is hard. >> we can only imagine. it is ma remarkable to any of us you were able to do a newscast. it seemed like the right answer. just that you could get through it. what was it like when the lights went on yesterday morning without your colleagues? >> it was unbelievably sad. there was a big hole there in our morning family, there was. but, you know, i had my partner by my side. i hadley owe with me and all our
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co-workers. we have a great station here. we are a family. i will say that a million more times before this is over. we are. alison was just a shining light. she could have gone all the way to the top. i always felt she would. she wanted to be a news director. she would have been a great one. adam always had a smile on his face, even at 3:00 in the morning. he came in with a loud, booming, cheerful voice. hey, kim, how are you? you have a news story. what's the weather going to be like. a ritual. he had found love at our station. he and our morning producer were engaged to be married. there's so many poignant moments. wednesday was going to be her last newscast with us, she had taken a job in charlotte. he was going to follow her
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there. alison was in love with our 6:00 anchor, chris hurst. they were going to get engaged. so many relationships. adam and alison were both from our area. this is their community. they have classmates and families that are mourning them along with us. this is just huge. >> a couple things for you. one, what does it mean to you the way the community came out and put their arms around you. not just the memorial behind you, but the way they have come and wanted to see how you were and brought food and made it like this was part of their extended family this happened to, not just the people they watch on the news. what does that mean to you? how is adam's fiance doing? to be in the control room when it happened, is she getting the love and support she needs? >> she is. her family is here with her. that's who she needs right now.
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we texted back and forth yesterday. she is devastated. you know, she lost the love of her life. i don't know how you move on from that. she will. she will in time. we are going to help her. just the outpouring of support that we have gotten from the community, from our colleagues. we have gotten help from our sister station. we have the general manager, his boss who was here this morning helping write stories. everybody had come together in so many ways to get us through it. if there is any good at all in any of this, it's that we know what family means. we know what our own families at home mean to us. we know what our wdbj family means. all of us in the news business. everybody has rallied around us. it is appreciated. we can't express what it means. thank you doesn't seem like enough, but thank you.
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>> all the details that have come out about the love stories behind the scenes of both of these people. >> yeah. >> and the idea that your show producer, it was her last show. she had to watch this hideous crime live, of her fiance and her wedding dress arrived that day. it's just -- this was her future. she lost her future. >> i have to say, when it happened, when we heard the sounds, when he heard alison screaming, we did not realize what happened. you have to understand, they were doing a feature at mountain lake. it was a beautiful morning. they were at a lake. this was not a stand off or hard news story. this was a morning feature. when we heard those sounds, i did not think gunshots. >> what did you think? >> maybe a car backfiring or
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somebody setting off fireworks. it's in franklin county, a rural area. i thought somebody firing shots in a distance. i thought something else. live shots go awry. you know, when i'm looking into the camera, when it was me and them, it's a small picture. i couldn't see as much as the viewer could see at home, so, i did not think that. it was not in my mind at all. as time went on, as people in the control room were trying to get in touch with them through texting and the longer it was that we didn't get a response from either of them, the more it was very, very clear something happened. something was very wrong. just each moment i got more and more worried. then it was toward the end of the newscast, came back and we addressed the sounds to our viewers. we know you heard a sound during alison's live shot, we don't know what it is. at that time, we weren't sure.
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it wasn't until after we were off the air we found out. >> this is interesting for us to hear. we saw your stricken face. we saw something went wrong with the live shot. we heard the sound. you looked stricken. we didn't know you didn't know until later that something this terrible happened. did you call 911? how did you get the word of what happened? >> no. someone else called 911. when you saw my face, it was shock. it was confusion you know, as much as anything else. again, gunshots were not anywhere -- >> there's no reason for them to have been -- >> i should have but i didn't think that. >> there's no reason to. the context didn't suggest in any way. you had no idea. the news manager has been spending a lot of time on this story. why was this guy removed? why did owe know then? the temptation is to say after
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this, hindsight wise, did you think he could have been a risk? there was no reason to see it coming. >> that reminds me, chris, kimberly, how did this gunman know this live shot would be happening with adam and alison at that time there? >> my guess, and i'm only guessing here, i can't begin to get into his mind, he is gone. our show is two hours long. we start at 5:00, end at 7:00. he could have turned on the tv at 5:00, her first tease, you know, letting everybody know what is coming up. it's about 5:10. he could have seen them at 5:10, we are at bridge water plaza, he could have seen that and hit the door and got in the car and made it in plenty of time. assuming he was leaving from roanoke somewhere, it's 40 to 45 minutes to get there. again, i don't know where he was coming from. i don't know what was in his mind that day. we never will know.
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that's a guess. >> the less time you spend on him, the better it is for your head and heart and xhupt. we know you have your own cut-ins to do. this hits home. kim and to everybody else there, everybody is thinking of you. think of yourselves and take care of yourself, okay? >> thanks. we are hugging our families extra tightly now as well as our broadcasting families. i want to man k everyone for their support. it's so appreciated. >> thanks so much. take care of yourselves. well, these brutal shooting deaths of the journalists are reigniting debate on gun control. what will come of this tragedy? >> this can't happen anymore. how many alison's is this going to happen to before he stop it? hey pal? you ready?
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certainly both sides look at the lawmakers in washington as part of the problem. so, we are hearing about can we do better when it comes to situations like this? how we deal with mental illness and guns and how we deal with mental illness as a community. ben ferguson and the president of the brady campaign, dan gross. here is my suggest, not jest the emotion of remembering what we are coming out with. i would agree, i would think both of you gentlemen agree that we can do better when it comes to who has weapons and how they get them, am i right? >> sure. >> absolutely. >> the question is how we do that. let's get the sense of perspective on that part of this from both of you. mr. gross, go first. why do we have a situation like yesterday when it comes to
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weapons? >> well, the situation we had yesterday is, if it was -- >> not yesterday, we were down there yesterday dealing with it. go ahead. >> 89 people are killed every day with guns in america. many of those deaths happen because guns get into the hands of people we agree shouldn't have them. people who are dangerously mentally ill, convicted felons, fugitives, domestic abusers. we can keep guns out of their hands. only have to do with the rights of dangerous people we agree shouldn't have guns. also, we should start there. >> ben, the reason i'm saying not just yesterday, we have seen lots of mass shootings, lots of crimes that show who gets weapons and why. one of the steps is suggested of what mr. gross did. we should do background checks. what is the objection and why? >> we did do a background check.
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this person was a horrible, insane murderer, who is willing to have himself die in the act. got a background check. this is the problem with people that immediately want to think a law that would be passed would stop a psychopath that is willing to die in the act. the system did work. he was not a convicted felon. he had not lost his right to own a gun. he had not gone to jail. >> he had not been adjudicated mentally ill. >> right. this idea that if there would have been a law that would have been passed. let me remind people, if we would have passed the most extreme dpun control measures put out there, it would not have stopped, by their rules, if republicans would have gone along with it, it would not have stopped the legal purchase of a law-abiding citizen to the point he did this. if you want to do a mental health law, that's where we
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should look. the campaign the brady campaign pushed would not have stopped this tragedy. >> mr. gross? >> i mean, it boggles my mind that we take one individual tragedy and talk about how it wouldn't have been stopped and use that as a way to write off a sensible measure -- a sensible measure that 90% of the american public support that is stop people from dying every single day. we could spend the rest of the interview rattling off people that died because of purchases that would have been stopped. >> what kind of background check are you talking about. we have background checks? >> gun shows and online. >> that's the extension? >> why are people against that? >> ben, it's not about what type of background check, it's where it applies, no loopholes. why are you against that? >> again, i go back to this. we had a background check for
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this individual to buy a handgun. to buy a handgun you have to go through a background check. >> you don't. not at a gun show or online. >> hold on. this is where you put a false narrative out there. it is not true. i bought a handgun at a show and had to go through a background check. i have been a victim of a crime with a two-time convicted felon that purchased a gun, guess what? on the black parkt. he didn't worry about going through the proper channels. he's back on the streets today. >> let me tell you about the brady law passed in 1994. 2.4 million prohibited purchases have been blocked. have there been some that haven't? absolutely. 2.4 convicted felons, rapists. >> i'm going to ask quou a simple question. tell me what law -- listen, this is simple. tell me what law you want to pass and i'm willing to listen to it, that would have stopped this individual who never
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committed a crime or was a convicted felon from this. if you can tell me that law, i will support you. >> here is the thing i want to emphasize. the debate we are having -- >> i'm waiting. >> 90% of the american public, 74% of nra members, the overwhelming majority of conservatives. this isn't a conservative view. >> i'm asking you again, name a law -- name a law. >> you guys are talking -- >> i'll answer you question if you answer mine. why are you against it -- >> i asked you first, you are the one in charge. >> why are you screaming over me. >> you are on two remote satellites and talking over each other because you are hearing a delay. hold on. i want to end the conversation there because it's losing productivity. in the case that we just had where we lost these journalists, the task is for your side to figure out a law to make a
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difference and see if it's acceptable. if you are going to talk about gun shows and talk about what happens online, it didn't apply here. you have different levels of this conversation that need to be had. we are going to hold it there for now. mr. gross, mr. ferguson, always appreciated. alisyn? >> was hillary clinton right to compare republicans to terrorists groups when it comes to women's issues? did she cross a line? inside politics with john king has that answer. no sixth grader's ever sat with the eighth grade girls. but your jansport backpack is permission to park it wherever you please. hey. that's that new gear feeling. this week, these folders just one cent. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great.
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let's get to inside politics on "new day" with john king. hi, john. >> happy friday to you. lots to talk about. we will be back in a few minutes. with me is nia-malika henderson. if you look at the history of richard nixon, the use of silent majority and what he meant. trump is surging in the polls, 28% among the republicans. you can see a path for trump. a path to presidency is iffy. donald trump says there's something brewing in america. >> you have a silent majority in this country that feels abused, forgotten and mistreated. it's a term that hasn't been brought up in years.
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people haven't heard that term in many years. it's interesting as to why. there are all different reasons. i think it's a descriptive term. every time i speak, there's standing ovation. it's the silent majority. they want to see wins and victory. >> silent majority. it's a term that hasn't been used in a long time. richard nixon used it repeatedly. he liked it. the people who back him say he meant the people in america were sick and tired of elites. people in washington trying to tell them how to live their lives. others took it as code language there were angry whites. this is the southern strategy. trump is in the middle of a debate. >> that's right. we have a scenario where he's playing to white identity politics t birtherism or some of his comments about mexicans crossing the border.
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whether or not this is a dog whistling of the same thing, it doesn't matter. we have seen him use the regular whistle in some ways. so, yeah, i mean -- >> well played. >> i don't know that people will make the connection. interesting that he uses the idea that these are the people that forgot. first he said the forgotten majority, then switched to the silent majority. this is the center of what he's trying to do. >> if you look at the polling, he's polling all of his support from white americans. he drew a big, but not sellout crowd in alabama. >> let's dig deeper on that. he has a huge problem, if you look at favorable ratings. among republicans, he's doing well among women. if you look at the national poll where he loses to hillary clinton and joe biden. if you look here, this is favorable or unfavorable. this is african-american.
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79% of african-american view him unfavorable. 63% of hispanics unfavorably. before you get to the conversation, if you listen to trump, i cherish women. he says he's going to get african-american people to vote for him. >> i have great friendships in the african-american community. they are suffering. job numbers, especially african-american youth. it's terrible what's happened. as you see, i have great relationships because you see the poll numbers. >> that's where the disconnect is. if he wants to talk about i want a conversation with the community about jobs, they said they need more spirit. he's just dead wrong about the poll numbers. >> he's doing terribly. hillary clinton gets 91% and he gets 2% of the black vote. romney got 4% or 6%.
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something like that. this isn't what he's doing. he's not the extend the tent person like rand paul. the party has problems. it looks like bush does better with latinos, he's at 35%. none of them do well at this point among african-american. >> it's important to note while trump's numbers are bad among hispanics, it's not affecting the rest of the party. you would think that's what's happening. if you look at polling in the last week or so, they are now separating trump from the republican party, which does poorly among latinos. it hasn't driven down the party more. i suspect his numbers will get worse. >> you raised this point before. more and more latinos get their information from univision and tell mundo.
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here is the question, hillary clinton, this is a trademark of her campaign. when she's not talking about the democratic race, she tries to rally the base with tough attacks on the republicans. here is a question. she was talking at an event about what she views as the extreme republican vision on women's rights, reproductive rights and people of the like. does this go over the line? >> now, extreme views about women, we expect that from some of the terrorist groups, we expect that from people who don't want to live in the modern world. but it's a little hard to take coming from republicans who want to be the president of the united states yet they have out of date and out of touch policies. they are dead wrong for 21st century america. we are going forward. we are not going back. >> can you not make your case against the republicans without
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saying we expect that from terrorist groups but not from republicans? >> you can. the second half of that answer would have been fine. out of date, out of touch. >> it was a madman era they used in 2012, linking republican policies. who knows. this wasn't an offhand comment. it was something they prepped, which is sad and they thought this is a way to breakthrough and they will hear it on "new day." debby wasserman schultz talking about scott walker. they go over board with it. >> you can make your case. i'm all for tough partisan ship. i'm all for gladiators but you can make the case without using the terrorist word.
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>> on one level, it worked. it worked with the base. it is a window into the politics of extreme. we are bathed in it, my brother. thank you for doing it this morning. john is too humble, john king and the inside politics panel break down the news of the week sunday at 8:30 a.m. eastern. he won't tell you, so i have to. a new poll suggesting republican voters want someone from outside the beltway to be the party in 2016. it's music to the ears of donald trump and ben carson. any coincidence they are one? any chance of whether it could come true? okay! fun's over. aw. aw. ♪ thirsty? they said it would make me cool. they don't sound cool to me. guess not. you got to stick up for yourself, like with the name your price tool. people tell us their budget, not the other way around.
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here's the reflection of what we were discussing. it could explain trump and carson. second is in second just as much an outsider as trump. let's talk to douglas, the author of the great deluge. he's joining us from new orleans marking the tenth anniversary of hurricane katrina. we want to talk about the an verry, but let's deal with the news of the day first here. do you think ben carson or donald trump, looking at it from historical perspective winds up being president? >> reporter: yes, i think they wind up being -- one of them could be the republican nominee. president is a big leap. i think the republican establishment has had their day. they gave the country john mccain and he lost. they gave the country mitt romney and he lost. they were establishment republicans. the insurgence by trump includes
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cruz and carson. they have the mojo, the momentum going right now. i don't think the hard right of the republican party is going to allow establishment candidate. if something like that happens, trump would probably run a third party movement. >> what have we seen that could correlate in terms of a possibleout come. who has come from so foroutside that they win in the party and the general. >> jimmy carter in 1976, around this time in the election cycle, 101 odds of getting the democratic nomination. he went to iowa and new hampshire and performs brilliantly and beat ted kennedy out of the picture, frank church and hubert humphrey. i have nothing to do with watergate or nixon, kissinger,
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lbj. carter was able to use the outsider campaign and win. he said the democratic party is around my neck. he acts like it is around his neck. >> i remember hearing that at home growing up. jimmy carter was governor of georgia, obviously. that makes you a qualified outsider. you are a politician. these guys are a very different cut. ben carson is a brain surgeon and never had a political inclination and you have trump and we know what he is and is not. this is a more dramatic version. >> absolutely. it's very hard. i have been saying we are in unchartered territory now. you can't compare what trump is doing to anybody. one analogy people make, which is useful is rethinking ross perot winning 19% of the vote in
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1992. he had no political experience. he was a billionaire running, but in a third party context. now you have trump hijacking the republican party and establishment doesn't know what to do. just like obama back in '08 was the blackberry guy, that was the new technology of the moment. donald trump is the twitter maestro. he's learned how to use that communication tool like nobody's business. he seems to win the media conversation every day since he's entered the race. >> all right. that's one part of what could become. you could argue it's made history already. let's talk to where you are standing. you know the history of it well. i covered that story, so did an entire generation of reporters. ha is the lesson of katrina ten years later? >> one of the big lessons is in rescue and relief. when you want to save lives,
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1,800 people died in katrina. tough get them. there are unnecessary deaths because people weren't evacuated out. people with alzheimers disease, people left to die in hospitals and senior homes. we didn't do well enough as a country in rescue and relief. also, government is not always there to save you. it was louisiana saving louisiana and mississippi saving mississippi. the early 72 hour moments after the storm. there was no calvary flying in to help everybody. introduced anderson cooper. he was making that call to the federal government and the president specifically. thank you very much, professor for reminding us about the ten-year anniversary of katrina and giving us perspective of what's happening right now in the election. take care, my friend. alisyn. there are new details emerging ability the roanoke killer. what police discovered inside
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challenge since hurricane katrina devastated new orleans is to rehouse thousands of people displaced by the storm. they staged a ten day build-a-thon. ♪ >> tens year ago he lost everything in hurricane katrina. he's just one of thousands who share that same story. volunteers from the red cross and habitat for humanity were some of the first boots on the ground. >> houses that were shifted off of their foundation. there were structures boarded up. a lot of search and rescue team x's on houses.
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>> some volunteers never left. ten days of construction to build ten homes. one for each year since katrina. >> roughly 98% of our population evacuated. since that time we've not simply built back new orleans, we have built it back better. >> whether it's recipients or volunteers, rebuilding is personal. >> it's going to allow us to be a stable family and work towards the future. >> just that feeling from today to ten years ago is really heartening to know that all the work leading up to this point has gotten us there. >> for more information on how to get involved, go to cnn.com/impact. there are disturbing details emerging about the gunman who killed those two young journalists in virginia. what else he had planned.
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celebrate her life. >> this world was robbed. >> what's happening to us as a people. >> more gun control laws are not going to solve this problem. >> congressmen step up to the plate and stop being cowards about this. >> there's no racism in that. >> looked like the movie set of armagedd armageddon. >> american city dark and underwater. this is a city that slowly, unmistakably is moving forward. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and my cay kaylcay -- michaela pereira. >> the man who shot and killed duomemb two members of a news crew in
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virginia may have had a plan b. some odd items found in his car. >> led by the father of alison parker the reporteder who w rep killed. >> reporter: good morning. it has been a very busy 48 hours for investigators working around the clock, trying to make some sense of what happened wednesday morning. and after review of all the evidence, a closer look at that chilling suicide note, they have a clearer picture of who vester flanagan was and what may have compelled him to do such a terrible act. new evidence suggesting he may have planned to make it out alive. this morning, evidence of an apparent get away plan found inside vester flanagan's rental car. a search warrant revealing that flanagan had a wig, sunglassesu
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and pistol, several license pla plates. you can see the refrigerator covered with photos of himself, possible warning signs of the anger fuelling his murderous attack live on air began surfacing over a decade ago. in 2000 he was fired from a television station in northern florida. >> i was concerned about just his mental status and whether he needed counselling. >> reporter: then in 2013 he caused a disturbing scene being fired from wbdj. >> on the way out he handed a wooden cross to the news director and said, you'll need this. >> reporter: internal documents show coworkers said he made them feel threatened and uncomfortable. and he was asked to seek mental
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health assistance. >> let's make it harder for people with mental issues. >> reporter: parker's father says gun regulations have to change. >> there has to be a way to force politicians that are cowards and in the pockets of the nra to have sensible laws so that crazy people can't get guns. >> reporter: a father's crusade for stricter gun laws. ♪ >> reporter: met with a rally against gun violence at the wbdj station thursday night. and that growing makeshift memorial a true sign and really a large tribute to not only the victims here but taalso the res of the staff at wdbj. we are also being told by the general manager of that station that they do expect a visit by the governor in the next hour or
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so. >> we've come to learn what a family that staff at the station is. even before this, they all considered themselves family. we did speak with the anchor there kimberly mcbroom. she was on the anchor desk as the murders unfolded live on air. here's what she told us. >> we are keeping each other together. we are hugging, we are crying, we are holding hands during the newscasts. we are a family. and i have said that probably a million times in the last couple of days, but we are. that's what's getting us through this. and the out pouring of love that we've gotten, not just here in our community, but from all over the world through social media. i've heard from people all over the world, all over the country through e-mails, twitter, facebook, you name it. we've gotten food, cards, flowers, balloons. if you've seen what our station
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parking lot looks like, it's a lovining tribute to two fine people that we lost. i know that alison and adam would want us to keep going. this is what we do. we are wdbj7. adam's twitter handle was do work. and he believed in that. and this morning the meteorologist and i were looking at each other, like, do work, do work. it is hard. >> we can only imagine. it is remarkable to many of us that you remember able to do a newscast yesterday. that did seem like the right answer to honor your colleagues. but just that you could get through it. what was it like when the lights went on yesterday morning without your colleagues? >> it was just unbelievably sad. there was a big hole there in
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our morning family. there was. but, you know, i had my partner by my side. i hadl leo with me. we ha we are a family. and alison was just a shining light. she could have gone all the way to the top. and i always felt that she would. she wanted to be a news director some day. and she would have been a great one. adam always had a smile on his face, even at 3:00 in the morning. he had this loud booming che cheerful voice every day. he'd go talk to leo. what's the weather like today? he had his little ritual. and he had found love at our station, he and our morning producer melissa ott were engaged to be married. so many poignant moments.
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wednesday was going to be her last newscast with us anyway. she had taken a job in charlotte. alison was in love with our 6:00 anchor chris hurst. they were probably going to get engaged too. there's so much loss here for so many reasons. adam and alison were both from our area. there is their community. they've got classmates and family that are mourning them along with us. this is just huge. >> couple things for you. one, what does it mean to you the way the community has come out and put their arms around you? not just the mimosa tree behind you with the memorial there. but they've come and wanted to see how you are and brought food, made it like you were part of their extended family, not just people they watch on the news. how is adam's fiance doing?
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to be in the control room when this happened, is she getting all the help and support she needs? >> she is. her family is here with her. that's who she needs right now. we texted back and forth yesterday. she is devastated. she lost the love of her life. and i don't know how you move on from that. but she will in time. and we're going to help her and just the out pouring of support that we've gotten from the community, from our colleagues. we've gotten help from our sister station. we've got our general manager, his boss who was in here this morning helping us write stories. everybody has come together in so many different ways to help us get through it. if there is any good at all in any of this, it's that we know what family means. we know what our own families at home mean to us. we know what our wdbj7 family
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means to us. everybody has rallied around us. it is so appreciated. thank you doesn't seem like enough. but thank you. >> look, it is so impressive that they were able to come on and do that show, the same people the next day. we will continue thinking about them. that's for sure. donald trump saying he's bringing back a phrase, silent majority, a term many find racially charged and many do not. let's go live to south carolina and bring in cnn political reporter sarah murray. what do you see? >> reporter: good morning, chris. you are right. donald trump stirring up controversy once again. who could have seen this one comi coming? not only by the things he's saying on the campaign trail, but also the things he's doing behind closed doors.
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the washington outsider caught in the act, acting like a politician. >> so give yourself a nice applause. wow. >> reporter: this time stirring up debate after using what some consider yet another controversial phrase, the silent majority. >> so you have a silent majority in this country that feels abused, that feels forgotten, that feels mistreated. and it's a term that hasn't been brought up in years, as you know. it's sort of interesting as to why. >> reporter: the main reason? people say the phrase original coined by nixon was fraught with racial under tones. an appeal to white voters amid the civil rights movement. trump also wooing voters with a promise to reject big contributions. >> a couple of weeks ago somebody came to me, a powerful lobbyist. i'd like to put money into your
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campaign, $5 million. i said i don't want it. i don't want your money. >> reporter: trump now appears to be saying one thing and doing another. he is appearing at his own fund-raising events. donors yearning for an up close look at that trump bravado need to only come to his campaign events. >> i don't wear a toupee. it's my hair. i swear. come here. is it mine? >> it is. >> say it, please. >> yes, i believe it is. >> thank you. >> reporter: potential donors will have another chance to up get up close and personal with donald trump. he's headed to massachusetts tonight for a fund-raiser. the campaign insisting it's not a fund-raiser whatsoever. >> one mystery solved. it is his hair.
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thank you so much for that, sarah. meanwhile there's a conservative group that tells cnn they have found incriminating e-mails from hillary clinton's server suggesting that she was trying to set what you happthey classi slush fund. they claim that clinton had e-mails on her private server showing that she and her aides mixed business with the clinton foundation's fund-raising efforts. clinton denies those allegations. three people arrested in the deaths of at least 71 migrants. the victims' decomposing bodies found in an abandoned truck near the austria-hungary border. they say they died of suffocation. rescuers are still looking for
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others. this is dash cam video out of minnesota. this went on for 20 miles before the driver pulls into the driveway. he then puts the car in reverse hitting the trooper. the driver is an eight-year-old boy. his passengers are his little brother and sister. look at that little pajama clad little boy. i'm happy to report they're all okay. that could have gone worse. >> yes. and i am treating it with levity because they are all okay. i don't know what is most shocking about this, that he drove that well at eight years of age. how does that happen? >> 20 miles. i don't know. maybe it's very easy to drive a car or maybe he had done it before. >> of course, the obvious question is -- >> where were the parents? >> where were the parents? how did the kid get the keys?
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president obama visiting new orleans ahead of the 10th anniversary of hurricane katrina tomorrow. that is the place that was hardest hit and he's trying to celebrate the city's revival a decade after the disaster. there's a lot of work to do. joining us live from new orleans is the secretary of the department of housing and urban development, julian castro. good to have you on. >> great to be with you, chris. >> you did not create the situation in katrina. but you are charged with doing what is probably most important. you don't just build houses. you're dealing with urban
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development and revitalizing areas that needed it badly before katrina. what do you see as the challenges ahead and the lessons of katrina? >> i think the president said it very well yesterday. we've learned over the last ten years how resilient the people of new orleans and the gulf coast are. he said there's been tremendous progress made. you can see a lot of that progress happening in neighborhood. at the same time, we need to keep working. we have to keep investing and created more affordable housing opportunities for folks. making the kinds of infrastructure investments that enhance quality of life, whether that's in transportation or things like basic streets and sidewalks. at the same time we have seen real progress here. for instance, since 2005 the graduation rate here in new orleans has skyrocketed. it's gone up almost 20%.
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and just few months ago, new orleans became the first big city in the nation that could declare that it had officially functionally ended veteran homelessness. so this community has shown just a tremendous resolve, one that all of us are very proud of. and the president expressed that yesterday. and that we're going to keep working with new orleans and the rest of the gulf to make sure that the recovery is completed. >> conversation for oanother da, but that report shining a light on how big a problem veteran homelessness is in this country. but to katrina specifically, do you believe what is being trumpeted as rapid growth is actually a reflection of how poor a state that city and its people were in prior to katrina? part of the narrative with the hurricane was that it didn't create problems, it exposed
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problems, right down to the urgency that the federal government showed then in helping people who needed it. >> there's no question that new orleans has faced these inveterate stuff challenges for a long time. you're right, when katrina happened, the spotlight was on this city in a way that it had never been before. and it did expose a lot of those challenges. the good news is that folks at every level have rolled up their sleeves. we have invested about $20 billion here in the gulf coast to create more affordable housing and businesses that have created 6,500 permanent jobs. we've seen the educational achievement go up. in some ways it's fair to say this city is facing some of the challenges we see in big cities across the united states.
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there is a rental housing affordability crisis happening. there was a report about a month ago that said in no single city would you rent a two bedroom apartment on minimum wage working 40 hours. and in very few cities could you actually afford to rent a one bedroom apartment. >> that's why we're covering the story there. we want to make sure the place gets attention and so do the issues. let me ask you political questions. 40 years old, good looking, former mayor of san antonio. they're mentioning you as a possible running mate for hillary clinton. would you consider it? >> i hadn't heard that before, chris. >> you'd heard it. >> i'm kidding. i've said that i'm focused on doing my work here at hud.
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that's flattering. i have heard the best thing to do to create a great future for yourself is don't forget about what's in front of me. >> handling that question like somebody who could be considering a run for vice president. you said that the investigation into the clinton e-mails was a witch hunt. do you still feel that way? >> i do. if you look at what they're doing on the oversight committee, the political talk is one thing, but what they're doing in congress in that committee is another. i believe that secretary clinton has said -- has acknowledged that that was not the best way to handle her e-mails back then. she has said that if she could go back, she obviously would have done it differently and has turned over all the information, the e-mails and documents and
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now the server. this political process is going to take its course. but folks need to understand that she did not handle classified information that was classified at that time. it may have become classified later, but it was not classified that way at the time. she said, look, if i could go back and do it differently, she would. you know that campaign has cooperated with the review that's going on. >> secretary, thank you for taking the questions here on "new day" this morning and shining a light on what's going on in new orleans and what still needs to be done. we look forward to having you on again. >> thanks a lot. what's your take about what's going on in new orleans? you tell us. go to hashtag new day cnn. or just go to facebook. >> donald trump resurrecting the term silent moajority.
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donald trump used this term a couple of times in recent months and a couple of times yesterday. >> so you have a silent majority in this country that feels abused, that feels forgotten, that feels mistreated. and it's a term that hasn't been brought up in years, as you know. people haven't heard that term in many years and it's sort of interesting as to why. there are all different reasons. uh think it's a very descriptive term. every time i speak i have sold out crowds. every single time. it's the silent majority. they want to see us have victory. people who don't like that term say it smacks of white supremacy. how do you hear it? >> that's kind of a reach, i
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think. i think particularly it has to do with donald trump's immigration policy. >> how so? >> what we're having right now is hundreds of thousands of third world immigrants dumped onto american communities. the american people have no say over that. the politicians are not listening to the american people. we don't particularly want to bring the third world to america and all of the problems that come with that. >> and you don't see that as racist? >> absolutely not. >> mindy, how do you hear it? >> yeah. i mean, i wouldn't stereotype or read too much into it as well. trump likes controversy. this is another example of creating a controversy. i definitely wouldn't read too much into it or certainly stereotype trump support. it is a diverse group of
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supporters. this is a different time. and you know, the discontent is real. the peace that he speaks about that many voters in this country, many americans feel that washington isn't listening to them is quite real and something that we need to pay attention to. >> mindy, you're a republican. is donald trump your guy? >> i don't support donald trump. i understand the excitement. i think he's quite exciting. i'm not too surprised he's drawing a lot of support and he's getting a look from voters. >> what don't you like about him? >> i actually think he's quite dangerous and the effect around him voters are drawn to is quite dangerous. they're excited about him, which is understandable. but that's not the main criteria to support someone for president? >> what part of him is dangerous? >> you think about the type of
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america that you want to live in. when we choose a president we're really deciding our future. is it one where we want someone who throws insults at everybody right and left who's very polarizing? he also draws the most people saying they would never vote for him. if you look at the head to head matchup against hillary clinton, he does worst among the top contenders in the field. >> i have another poll to show you. it's the latest quinn poll. this is interesting. this shows his favorables and unfavorables among some groups who may not always feel included, this is whites, blacks and hispanics. his unfavorables with black, 79%. with hispanics, 63%. what do you think. >> univision put out a poll, i believe on august 4th that donald trump among hispanic republicans is leading.
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he's at 34%. so i mean, we have a lot of polls right now. we're still, what, 18 months away. there's a lot of churn rate. polls are changing constantly. but the trend you're seeing as far as trump, at least among republican voters, is he continues to rise. i think he's staying on message. the more he pounds and pounds away at a few core issues that he's riding on, the more he stays focused on those issues, his numbers continue to rise. now, we went to the last debate watch. we had a debate watch for the fox news debate last month. >> like a debate party. >> yeah. it was probably about 140 people. at the beginning we did a show of hands, who supports this candidate, that candidate. a smattering of people for each candidate. and this is in manhattan. 25% of the room raced their hands for donald trump.
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after the debaitdebate, a thirde room raced their hand for donald trump. >> what was the moment that tipped the balance towards him? >> i don't think it was a particular moment. i think it was primarily his engagement with the megyn kelly. i think that interaction -- >> you like that he fought back against fox? >> absolutely. absolutely. >> you know, obviously many republicans feel that fox speaks in their same language. >> i think a lot of republicans feel that fox is one station that allows conservative message to get through. i don't think every republican says oh, fox news is our channel and we agree with everything on fox news. particularly as a conservative american, it's hard to get -- you know, it's hard to get a different opinion. >> sure. thanks so much for the differing views on donald trump. always great to talk to you guys. >> thank you. >> happy to be here. speaking of debates, be sure
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to tune in to the next republican debate right here on cnn. that is september 16th. let's go over to chris. >> the same as the number of characters in twitter? coincidence? i don't think so. the father of the young journalist killed on tv alison parker is now a self-described gun control activist. he says he'll become the john walsh of gun control. what should that change be, if any? we talk to parents and hear what they want. it's evil. and ladders. sfx: [screams] they have all those warnings on 'em. might as well say... 'you're gonna die, jeff.' you hired someone to clean the gutters. not just someone. angie's list helped me find a highly rated service provider to do the work at a fair price. ♪ everyone can shop, but members get more with reviews, live customer support, and better pricing. come see what the new angie's list can do for you.
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time now for what you see on your screen. the five things to know. number one, frefs the car of the madman who shot and killed two journalists in virginia suggests he was ready to attempt more killing and a get away before he killed himself. donald trump bringing back the phrase silent majority. but who does he mean? that stirred controversy on the campaign trail in south carolina thursday. what do you think? a conservative group telling
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cnn hillary clinton had e-mails on her private server that show she mixed state department business with the clinton foundation business. the clinton campaign denying the allegations. police say men arrested in the death of 71 migrants in an abandoned truck is now up to four. tropical storm erika bearing down on puerto rico. the storm expected to reach florida on sunday. want more on the five things to know? go to "new day" cnn.com for the latest. well, the fastest growing demographic of prison inmates in the united states is women. once they're released to the streets, many struggle to start over with nothing. this week's cnn hero is working to end that cycle of incarceration. let's meet kim carter.
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>> when i was 17 years old, i had my first hit of crack cocaine. i didn't know then that i was going to lose the next 12 years of my life. i was recycled in and out of the system. i stayed out on the streets. i wanted to change. what i needed was a place to change at. >> just got out of jail? >> yes. had no shoes. no food. no nothing. nowhere to go. >> you're strong and you're ready and you're willing. you wouldn't have came here if you wasn't. >> i've been homeless almost six months. >> we meet women where they are. we pick them up and put them into an environment where they can heal. when a woman goes from my shelter program into a permanent supportive housing, they stay connected with us. a lot of women come in very traumatized. we have licensed counsellors that work with women on some of those deep issues. any mother who comes to us who
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doesn't have her children, we help get her children back. >> thank you, miss carter. thank you. >> homeless women, children. i call them invisible people because we pretend we don't see them. but i see them and i know there's something we can do. >> it's great to see the impact she's having. so we're hearing a familiar demand coming out of these murders of the journalists in virginia. we have to do better when it comes to who gets weapon. we heard it after newtown. we heard it after the aurora, the movie theater shooting. coming up, we have parents of victims talking about why their efforts to change things have led to very little. >> cnn heros is brought to you
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the journalist murdered on live television says he will begin a crusade for more gun control. listen to what he told chris. >> it's senseless that her life and adam's life were taken by a crazy person with a gun. if i have to be the john walsh of gun control -- look, i'm for the second amendment. but there has to be a way to force politicians that are cowards and in the pockets of the nra to come to grips and have sensible laws so that crazy people can't get guns. it can't be that hard. >> he want fs to put a purpose his pain. we've had this conversation time and again on this show and as a nation. what will it take to do better? everyone seems to agree that we
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can do better. sandy phillips, her daughter jessica killed in the colorado movie theater massacre. and she is now the managing director of sandy hook promise. and the virginia tech tragedy. and the president of family out reach foundation. and if i have not met you, i have certainly been at every one of the situations that took your loved ones. i know even at this stage for all of you, this is not easy. you do it because you believe you have to. let's start with you, sandy. tell me not just your motivation, but what you wanted to get done and what became your reality when you tried. >> i think for all of us the lowest hanging fruit is the universal background checks after aurora wasn't even spoken
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about, we couldn't even get the presidential candidates to debate the issue. and then sandy hook happened. and we all thought sandy hook was the one that would do it. and i know nicole and myself, we're both there in the gallery in april when that vote came down. and we were all stunned that our national leadership would not get on board and do the right thing for america. we were shocked. >> nicole, when sandy says they wouldn't do "it," it becomes the problem. how you do better becomes an issue. universal background checks, very popular with people who want more gun control. the other side says how would it have helped in virginia? what law would have stopped that? what's your answer. >> my answer would be then tell us what laws will help stop these shootings.
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it's not just about the mass shootings. it's about the everyday shootings that take adults and children everywhere. what are the laws they believe need to be more strictly enforced and what new laws are they going to propose to close the gaps. at the end of the day it's not just about firearms and weapons. it's also about mental health and wellness. that's a harder topic to handle in some respects. but our leaders should be able to deal with those questions. >> there were so many moments that seemed to galvanize this country. the virginia tech case, obviously newtown and sandy hook, there were so many moments in which people say something has to be done. and the majority of people say there can be more stringent gun control laws, and yet there's
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obstacle after obstacle. >> i spent two years in richmond working on this issue. what i found myself to be was on a treadmill for two years. and the families of the victims and survivors decided to move forward to create a solution based interventions in our society, in our schools. there are solutions. each side builds up a wall. we have to find a way around those walls. >> you basically did away with attempting gun control. you came up with campus based solutions to try to make students safer. that was what you thought was easier to tackle. >> correct. actually school k through 12 and campus based solutions. >> when you look at what happens in these mass shootings -- you made an interesting point, nicole. it's not just about the mass
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shootings, but there's a lot of gun violence in this country. you could argue more than any other country. yes, we have people who are mentally ill or unstable or undiagnosed but they're a relatively small percentage. the main cause seems to be, sandy, how we treat each other. what can we do about that? >> i'm not sure what we can do about that except teach our children from an early age to be respectful of one another and our differences. i do know that the major problem we have in the united states is the ease of being able to get your hands on a gun. and that's where we can make the biggest difference in the shortest amount of time. so we need to be able to look at how easy it is for these people. it seems like we've got it backwards in the united states. we've made it almost impossible for those with mental illness to
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get the help they need. and yesterday we've made it very, very easy for these same people to be able to go out and get a gun and murder. >> nicole, i know this week has been searingly painful for you. nod only did you watch the tragedy of what happened in virginia, but school has just started in connecticut on thursday. and your son dylan would have been going into fourth grade. >> yes. >> what do you want to say to this dad who lost his daughter alison and says i'm going to use this moment to change something? >> i would say to this dad and all of the families, use your moment. use your voice. but also to all the other families out there, don't wait until it happens to you. as a culture we wait until gun violence personally affects us before we stand up and do something. by then it's too late. and just to build on what sandy said, there are a lot of things
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that can be done in terms of early training and intervention on how to recognize the signs of people who need help and get them that help we need. that's something we can do right now in our own communities. >> joe, because of what began your motivation in this and all of you and so many parents like you, how do you reconcile not getting the change you want with the feeling of whether or not people care about what happened to you? >> well, we are making progress in those areas of school intervention and campus safety. and i think we can reconcile, you know, those positive initiatives and successes that people are recognizing that there has to be a multidisciplinary and holistic approach to the question and to the person. wellness is a big issue. there are institutions out there that are creating wellness programs within their school systems that are very, very
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important to create this prosocial behavior. not to deflect, but i think that is very, very key. we need to create the safety nets at a very young age. my understanding is that mr. flanagan appeared on somebody's radar screen in first grade. yes, these perpetrators are known to their community. they're known to their families. at what point are we going to step in to take action to help them? >> joe, nicole, sandy, i know you have websites. i will tweet those out. we applaud you all despite your pain for trying to come out and help over families. >> it's not just about the law. it's also about how we live and decide to love. we're going to go from what happens that is the worst in life to the best.
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