we are covering it the way only cnn can. we are live in illinois where the three cop killers remain on the loose. >> good morning, michaela. you are right. cop killers on the loose and a community on edge. the latest on this investigation is that it has all been turned over to the lake county major crimes task force. here is the back story. it starts at 8:00 a.m. yesterday morning when the lieutenant was out in the community investigating suspicious activity when he radios into dispatch he was in the pursuit of three individuals. here is that radio exchange. >> officer down, 128. they were responding to a report of a suspicious male black and male white. it appears the officer's gun is missing. >> responding to officer down.

subjects are considered dangerous. >> reporter: now this unleashed a massive manhunt including, state, local and national authorities. air support was launched. here we are nearly 24 hours later and the suspects are still on the loose. the community on edge, schools are closed. they are mourning today and this morning for the lieutenant, which we are told he was one with the community, served 30 years in the police force, a father of four, a husband and from what we hear, a very, very generous with his time, giving back to this community day in and day out. >> seems like everyone knows him. you can hear the pain in the voices, coupled with fear as the manhunt continues. thank you. a police shooting a man who

has his hands raised. there's a second video that shows a clearer view of the incident. will the public get to see it? sarah sidner is following us live in san antonio. good morning, sarah. >> reporter: good morning, john. the fbi, we now know is assisting in the investigation along with the attorney's office and sheriff's office. the district attorney told me he is looking at two videos, one of which a witness released to the public. the other has not been released. it is clear and helped them determine whether or not to charge the officers in this case. we want to warn you. the video that has been released is very disturbing. officials in texas are examining two videos. capturing this officer involved shooting in san antonio.

>> i just shot that [ bleep ] bro. it shows them shooting and killing 41-year-old gilbert flor es. >> a cold-blooded shot. >> reporter: he says he was surprised to see the officers open fire. he had at least one arm raised. >> why shoot after they had been going back and forth for so long. >> reporter: officials say the second video, not released to the public shows a closer and clearer angle. the d.a. and sheriff discouraging knee-jerk reactions. >> i don't have to say anything. you can get to the conclusion on your own. what i encourage people to do is not react. >> they were responding to a domestic dispute call. >> the male that called it in assaulted his wife and child. possibly two patients and he is

also -- >> when police arrived, he was armed with a knife and resisting arrest. >> they tried to use nonlethal weapons to try to detain him. after a lengthy confrontation, both deputies fired shots, causing the man's death. >> reporter: thomas provided the video to ksap. monday, the sheriff's office labeling it as unethical and sad to purchase and air it broadcasting a man's death for $100 spark threats to deputies lives. to which is station says, it is their obligation to inform the public. it is not uncommon for them to pay for video for freelancers or citizen journalists. we can tell you, the district attorney says they will move swiftly in this case. as soon as they get the entire investigation handed over to them by the sheriff's

department. we know the family retained an attorney who plans to sue the city saying the family is extremely disturbed and mourning. michaela? >> the second video is going to prove vital. thank you so much for that. meanwhile, baltimore is bracing for potential unrest as six officers charged in connection with freddie gray head to court. jean casarez is in new york with the latest on that. >> reporter: good morning, michaela. today is an extremely important hearing in the case of the six police officers charged in the death of freddie gray. the baltimore police department is telling the force they cannot take leave today. if they have a day off, they have to come in. this is to prepare for anything that could happen. there will be increased police presence around the courthouse and community activists are encouraging peaceful demonstrations, protests and the word around town is they are

encouraging people to go to the higher socioeconomic areas of baltimore because of the hearing today. the defense is the reason for the hearing. they are asking the judge to dismiss some or all of the charges. they are asking the state attorney be recuse from the case because of so many conflicts of interest, she cannot prosecute it and a special prosecutor should be brought in and whether they should be tried together, separately or in groups. another thing on the mind of people is they are due to have a fund-raiser here in baltimore in about two weeks. alisyn? >> it's complicated thanks for that. for more on these police incidents, let's bring in the senior vice president for fjb and a former atf executive. thank you for being here. we have three troubling law enforcement troubles to get through. one where there's an active

manhunt in fox lake, illinois. police are looking for three suspects, three white guys, one black guy, they believe who shot their police officer. they don't have much to go on. here, let me play for you the information that the dispatcher has. here is the sound. >> fox lake for an officer down. 128 honing. a suspicious male black and male white. appears the officer's gun is missing. >> responding to officer down, fox lake. considered armed and dangerous. >> the police officer who was killed was able to say he was per suing three suspects on foot. where do they begin? >> they are going to determine if anyone was at the scene or close to the scene to give us vital clues about the identities about the suspects. >> schools are closed today. >> yes. >> in three districts. the community is very scared.

they believe he took the officer's gun or they were armed since he was killed. that's not a lot. two white guys, one black guy. it's not a lot to go on. >> we have seen crimes like this with a lot less information. i'm sure everything we are hearing is not everything they have. that's the first thing. the second, boots on the ground. you have seen the organizations galvanized. they are following leads, allowing the information to drive the investigation. it may seem like we don't have a lot, i'm sure they have more than we are aware of. >> the fact that three school districts are closed, do they believe they are still in the area? >> if they are there and boots are on the ground, there's intelligence that tells us they are there. >> two sheriff's deputies shoot a man who they have been called on a domestic disturbance. he appears in the video, this is

cell phone video, to have his hands up. this is disturbing video because you watch someone be killed. we want to show it. his hands are up. now, he's shot to death. matthew, explain what we are seeing. >> i don't think there's too much explanation necessary. the standard of objective reasonableness for use of force is clear. that's what law enforcement is guided by. in this case, there is no objectiveness or reasonableness about what we saw. >> when you look at that, as a law enforcement officer, you don't see any reason they opened fire on him? >> i don't see any reason. there may be things that come into play about state of mind of officers, but the individual's hands were up. he should have been arrested and brought in. >> they say an arm is obscured by the pole. we can't see what.

>> drop the knife. we didn't see it. they may have done it. when he was shot, his hands were up in the air. >> there's no justification for shooting someone with their hands up in the air, even if they have a weapon? >> in 27 years in law enforcement, i have never seen one. every case is uniquely different. >> that's a strong assessment. let's go to baltimore. pretrial hearings for the officers involved in freddie gray's death. obviously, it's a heated issue. it will be a heated trial. how is baltimore preparing? >> crisis management 101. expect the best, prepare for the worst. i'm sure the state of maryland, the city of baltimore, the mayor, the police department, they are going with their intelligence, they are examining social media and coming up with a plan to ensure any peaceful protests don't get out of hand and go into riot status. >> we are connecting the dots on

these issues happening around the country. do you sense, from your contacts, are police feeling more embattled? are they feeling under fire? are we putting a title to this and it doesn't exist, this is police business as usual? >> i think three things are going on. the optics of our lives are very dir different. police may be feeling the stress or measure. listen, probable cause hasn't changed for quite some time. reasonable suspicion and probable cause. two, the public is seeing more now than they have seen in the past. that's creating tension and stress. you can't draw inference for all those things. lastly, this year, up to this quarter, 83 police officers killed in the united states. one is way too many. 1% down from last year. even if the trend continues, we won't match last year's numbers.

law enforcement do a very dangerous job. we should never have to lose your lives for doing it, but we do. they are dealing with dangerous people. the donald trump/jeb bush feud is intensifying. trump is firing back against the attacks from jeb bush. attack that is say trump is not a true conservative. athena jones is following it all for us, live from washington. good morning. >> good morning, john. after months of taking hits from trump, bush is trying to show fire. he's using social media, one of trump's favorite means of communication to strike back. meanwhile, the hits from trump keep coming. >> jeb is paying for the ads by the lobbyists, special interests and donors. >> donald trump not holding back on anything or anyone, including jeb bush. >> he's getting all this money from people that are lobbyists

and, you know, a tough group of people. i know all of them. they wanted to do something and they should do something. he's got to fight back. he's down in the polls. >> hitting him on fund raising strength and poor poll position. the former florida governor has long been a top target. bush firing back in front of the cameras. >> this is not a guy who is a conservative. using his own words is not a mischaracterization. it came out of his mouth. >> and online. >> i have lived in new york and manhatt manhattan. my views are different than if i lived in iowa. >> reporter: taking a jab at liberal views. >> i'm very pro-choice. hillary clinton is a terrific woman. you would be shocked if i said in many cases i identify more as a democrat. >> reporter: he's become led

legendary. pointing to nice things bush said about hillary clinton. >> we recognize the commitment of someone who has devoted her life to community service. >> they are bringing drugs, they are bringing crime. >> reporter: trump spent an hour talking about the issue and the head of the hispanic chamber of commerce. >> he understands that the hispanic vote will be important, not only for him, but anybody seeking the white house. >> that meeting with the chamber of commerce president was at trump's request. they said they wanted trump to clarify his policies on immigration and other issues. and they said trump agreed to appear in a public q & a session with the chamber's president later this fall. we will be looking out for that. >> we will watch that. thank you for that. international news breaking. gunmen abducting a group of 12

turkish construction workers. the identities of the gunmen and the fate of the men unclear right now. last month, isis slammed turkey's president for allowing u.s. access to their bases. secretary of state, john kerry, this morning, delivering a speech on the iran deal in philadelphia, defending the agreement and taking on critics. the chance of the bill surviving in congress is getting better. president obama is one vote away from securing it. we will speak about what he likes in the deal, coming up in the 8:00 hour. kim davis ordered to appear in federal court thursday to explain why she is failing to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. davis calls it a heaven or hell decision and acting on god's

authority. she faces fines and jail time. >> three clerks in kentucky were refusing marriage licenses. they say they are willing to go the distance, whatever i takes. >> it may end tomorrow when she gets sentenced to prison time or heavy fines. >> it's interesting. when i think about it, judge not lest you be judged. it's interesting to hear somebody take a stand against somebody else. >> jeb push stepping up his attacks against donald trump. what are they saying about each other? we'll tell you. >> what aren't they saying? no student's ever photographed mean ms. colegrove.

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>> that was donald trump defending his past as a democrat to don lemon last night. his political past is under fire in a series of attacks launched by jeb bush, the joyful torto e tortoise. joyful no more. will it help bush? you are joined by political commentator errol lewis and maggie hammerman. she is the presidential campaign correspondent for "the new york times." on the donald trump v. jeb bush in a scathing video using trump's own words. the question is, is it smart to go after trump if you are jeb bush? the follow up question is, is it smart to go after him on being a lib ra? >> donald trump is an entertain mer, bush is not.

bush gets out of his own space, a confident person who's done a lot of stuff in government and steps on to turf where he's not comfortable and in some ways responding to donors or backers. go out there and fight back. he gets out there and it's an uneven match. >> why not become a feisty tortoise? >> a snapping turtle. >> i like that, john berman. >> i think to errol piece point, trump is playing different than bush. trump is moving in for the kill. jeb is not able to push back. you can show a video. there are no points. it is done for backers. it's done for the press to write he's hitting back. at the end of the day, i think it's a plea to the superpac that's said, mike murphy that runs the superpac says we are

not going to be the people leading the attack against donald trump. >> why not? >> very different than we saw in 2012 when romney's superpac obliterated newt gingrich. >> even if there is money or points on the attacks, it is not clear it helps bush. if you go after trump, it could go to bush or someone else. >> we want to help bush, but he's got to help himself first. who knows where that $100 million is going to end up. there could be a third candidate yet to be named. >> i don't know if we have the sound of the jeb bush attack ad where he plays trump talking about being a democrat. we do. we can do this. >> hillary clinton, i think, is a terrific woman. i am biased because i have known her years. i live in new york. she lives in new york. i have known her and her husband and i really like them both.

>> do you identify as a democrat or republican? >> you would be shocked if i said that, in many cases, i probably identify more as a democrat. >> why are you a republican? >> i have no idea. >> now he's evolved. is that okay? does that tarnish his image? >> depends on which way you are evolving to. evolving on gay marriage is a positive thing. on the right, if you are a republican, that is not a bad thing. but, i think the video of donald trump's positions, they were not taken a long time ago. watching this clip, this is not the most devastating line of attacks you could use against him. the hillary clinton thing stood out. as soon as i saw it, jeb bush himself, you know, presented her or was present far medal ceremony she was part of two

years ago. trump was going to do what he did do and release it. all the attacks trump has done against jeb, this is a problem for jeb. they have been utterly predictable. he used quotes from his mom saying he shouldn't run. jeb's people have been caught off guard by it. there are different rules trump is playing by. >> let's talk about the rules. he had an unpredictable meeting at the chamber of commerce. trump has had issues with latino voters not happy with his stance on immigration or loud stance on immigration. he has the meeting and the guy says it was a positive meeting. >> i don't imagine they were throwing things at each other. for trump, it does what he needed it to do. trump is turning into a politician. he's not under an illusion, the ship sailed. he's not going to get latino

vote. >> they love working for him. >> he's a real estate guy. if you have ever dealt with a real estate guy or salesman, they line up the facts to see what reality is. in his case, what he is going after is not the latino vote. to say to people that don't want to be associated with people that made big gotted statements, i can talk with people. i don't hate them. it's not personal. stk meeting was not set up with his campaign, it was people with his company. that's errol's point. we have seen this pattern repeatedly where he asks for a meeting, then leaks out and sets out the terms thrks is what i say i said. it's hard to counter attack that. >> let's talk about what cnn is doing. they are changing the original rules about the debate september 16th. new criteria. this seems carly fiorina will

pass muster. she will be in the debate now. that is the right answer, isn't it errol? >> i think so. my local station, we have the same issue, not enough people can fit into the studio, who do you have in and who do you have out. they should have enough confidence to say we are going to pick who we are going to pick. these are who we are going to pick because of the reasons we set out. cnn found their way to the right. >> carly fiorina should be part of the debate. she is a big part of the conversation. >> equally related question is that chris christie and rand paul are getting pushed out. >> it makes it all the more exciting. it airs here on cnn. >> great to talk to you guys. tomorrow on "new day," we will speak with carly fiorina to talk

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police officer outside chicago. nationwide, officers are reporting feeling concern for their safety. we want to discuss it with two guests. a cnn law enforcement analyst, harry and cnn political commentator, mark. i know you debate issues hero bustly. i think there's not a lot of debate when you see officers gunned down in the line of duty. we approach it with a heavy heart. mark, i want to ask you, we have been seeing a push for crimes against police officers, attacks on police officers to be included in the hate crime laws nationwide. the federation of police have been pushing for that over ten years. do you think we are any closer to getting traction on that issue? >> i mean, when ever you have a national crisis or controversy, when ever hearts are heavy, to use your language, you are likely to see legislation pushed through. we saw post 9/11 and other

moments. whether or not that's the best approach is a different conversation. surely, it's more likely to happen. the key is how to address the issues. not in ways to kill cops. >> that's a point. you are right. there has to be responsibility -- people need to be held responsible. we have to stop the bleeding. harry, i want you to see this. i'm sure you can relate to this. this is from the l.a. times, they spoke to a 17-year veteran of the force in arizona. he said day-to-day, you are more aware of your surroundings and skeptical of people. these days, if i don't know you, i'm going to be extra guarded around you. that is sobering to think officers are skeptical of people especially when they are charged with being officers of peace. how do they do that? they are watching their six, feeling paranoid and under

attack? >> well, this is our job. this is what we deal with every day. as a police officer, you know, with all the police officer that is have been shot at, especially the last one that was assassinated pumping gas. police officers are going to feel hesitant when people approach them. i know when i used to sit in my radio car, i had my holster in my lap. if somebody walked to my car, my hand was on my gun in the event somebody pilled a gun. that was when we had 10-12 new york city police officers killed every year. now we have this problem out there. if someone approaches them, if a police officer can't see somebody's hands, they are going to be hesitant to tell them to back off and show us your hands. we don't know, as far as officer goforth was concerned, did he walk up and ask a question first and he turned around? we don't know that.

that makes officers very, very wary now. >> let's look at statistics. we have this from the national law enforcement officers association. we know it's a dangerous job, obviously. firearm related deaths, so far, remember, it's only september. 26 officers have died this year as compared to 2014. the entire year, there were 30. the numbers are down a bit. if we keep on pace, we are going to surpass that number. >> we might. one thing to remember, if one officer gets killed as the officer in texas did, we say it's one too many. we are not suggesting any is a good number. last year was the lowest number we had seen. 32 last year. the year before, in the 50s. we are down in officer killings over the last ten years, five years, three years. last year was unusually low.

if this year goes up a little bit, i don't want to assume there's a nationwide, sort of spike in officer killings. this may be statistically fair. again, one is too many. >> that's the key, right? we see there is a sentiment that is getting rhetoric in the country. i want to show you this graffiti that was spotted in houston. remember, houston is mourning the loss of one of their own officers just this week. this was spotted on the street. this, you know, heartless and thoughtless and foolish graffiti. this kind of thing, har wryharr senseless. this is not helpful in conversation we need to have nationally. >> you have a certain percentage of lunatics out there that hate the police, that will -- say it was graffiti officers who did

this. do i think they would kill a police officer? no, i don't think so. but, you never know. is he trying to intimidate someone or put a message forth that somebody should be out there killing police officers? i think that's what's going on. it's going on with a lot of rhetoric out there. a lot of people telling we have the demonstration in new york. what do we want? dead cop. when do we want them? now. we have the message about pigs in a blanket. things like this and other rhetoric out there. i'm sorry -- some lunatic might get this. >> might get in his head and we don't want to see it happen. marc, i want to give you a final thought. i know you want to respond to harry's last comment. >> i think we have to be careful not to overstate this idea of rhetoric. we are paying attention to police in the community. we notice the protests more. we notice police misbehavior and

conduct. we have to have a sustained conversation and accept police should not be killed but hold them accountable. let's not scapegoat anybody. >> we have to end it there, gentlemen. we are going to pick this up again. always a pleasure to have you, thanks so much. you can get in on the conversation as well. #newdaycnn on twitter or post on facebook.com/newday. john? dick cheney not a fan of president obama. that is putting it mildly. the former vice president sits down with cn to weigh in on the latest politics. you don't want to miss what he has to say. stay with us.

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welcome to "new day." welcome to the family. >> i watch every morning. it's great. >> great to have you on cnn as well. >> thank you. >> tell us about the interview. >> there's no love loss between dick cheney and the white house. when we spoke, he was candid. he pulled no punches. we talked about donald trump, we talked about the 2016 race. as you will see, we started with the man he likes to go toe-to-toe with. i say president obama, you say? >> i say a president whose policies are doing lasting damage to the united states. >> the iran nuclear deal? >> terrible deal. definitely ought to be rejected by congress. >> should guantanamo stay open? >> yes. >> going into iraq? >> it was the right thing to do. >> no apologies? >> no apology. >> reporter: it is classic dick cheney, taking on president

obama, this time with a new book, co-authored with his daughter, liz, a former deputy assistant secretary of state. >> we wrote it because we were deeply concerned about the fact the threats for the united states are increasing. >> how much damage do you think president obama has done? >> it's been devastating. he strengthened our -- he abandoned allies. i think his tendency and determination to apologize to the nation consistently and repeatedly around the world has been devastating. >> rate president obama for me. >> i think he's a man with a world view that doesn't fit reality. he has a set of beliefs, ideology, if you will, that doesn't equip him to deal with the kind of problems we are faced with today. in terms of trying to rank him a president, it would be very low on the list. >> you think he's the worst president ever? >> well, certainly the worst in my lifetime.

>> on president obama's watch, we got osama bin laden. he's used the drone program aggressively. there have been no major 9/11-style attacks on american soil. is it possible that even though you disagree with him that his foreign policy is keeping america safe? >> one of the reasons we got osama bin laden is because of the enhanced interrogation program we put in place and he canceled. the drone program, he's used effectively, was invented by george w. bush. >> you write that america is at a hinge point in history and it's vital voters carefully pick the next president. i know you are not endorsing anyone, but who do you think is the best person to turn things around? >> well, we have not endorsed anybody and don't plan to today, jaime. >> when you look at the republican field, are you

confident that everyone out there could get the job done? >> i wouldn't go that far, but i think it's a good field. >> mr. cheney, you were jeb bush's father's secretary of defense, his brother's vice president. some people would wonder why it's just not natural for you to endorse jeb? >> i was happy to serve in prior administrations. both president bush's say they gave me great opportunity and i was happy to serve them. i like jeb. he's a good man and good governor in florida. i have not endorsed him for president. i watch with interest how it develops. >> that's interesting. what's the subtext there? why not endorse him? >> he's out raising a tremendous amount of money for the republican party for everybody. but, they are going to wait a while. if you ask me who he's closest

to, i would say national security issues marco rubio. >> interesting. they are all in fund-raisers with rubio as well. yesterday, paul was here and called dick cheney a sociopath. granted, you are going to get that take from people on the left, from democrats. it raises the question, you spent time with dick cheney. any self-reflection? does he have any doubts about his time serving as vice president and the policies they put in place? >> i think to conservatives he's a hero. to paul, he's darth vader. you are never going to bring those together. dick cheney is unapologetic because he believes after 9/11 it was their responsibility to keep america safe and they did. and he has no regrets about it. he thinks he has allowed reflection and his is, his job was to keep the country safe. but, you are never going to get the two sides to come together.

>> he certainly is looking hearty. >> he is. it's three years since his heart transplant. he is in great health. i's turned his life around. he had five heart attacks. it's amazing. you are going to come back in an hour with more. can you give us a tease? >> we asked him about hillary clinton's e-mails and he is very harsh about that. he goes a place nobody else has gone, yet. we asked him, coming up on the 14th anniversary of 9/11, he had a dire prediction. he is afraid there's going to be another attack even worse. he talks about that as well. we are following a lot of news this morning. let's get to it. >> reporter: the manhunt for cop killers in illinois.

the city of baltimore is on edge this morning as the freddie gray case enters the pretrial case. >> we want to protect the citizens. >> we are going to treat a protest like a protest and a riot like a riot. >> jeb bush setting up attacks. >> bush's strategy exposed trump as a phony republican. >> i have no idea. >> supports democrats. >> more of a counter punch here. jeb went after me. >> kentucky county clerk continues to deny marriage licenses to gay couples. >> we are not issuing them today. >> why? >> under god's authority. announcer: this is "new day." >> welcome back to your "new day." we do begin with breaking news. there is a manhunt for three men who gunned down a veteran illinois police officer. schools north of chicago are shut down this morning as the search widens. meanwhile, in baltimore, police

bracing for protest. pretrial hearings about to get under way for the death of freddie gray. cnn has the developing stories all over. we start with rosa florez. rosa? >> john, good morning. here we are 24 hours after a police officer was shot and killed and those cop killers still on the loose and no trace. here is how it all started. authorities tell us 8:00 a.m. tuesday morning, the lieutenant was out in the community a mile from where i am standing investigating suspicious activity. he radioed into dispatch he was on a foot pursuit of three individuals, then, here is his last exchange with dispatch. >> fox lake, officer down. 128 honing.

reports they are suspicious, a black male and white. >> considered dangerous. air one has been advised. >> reporter: that unleashed a massive manhunt involving state, local and federal authorities. dozens of canines were issued. schools are closed. this community is on edge and mourning the loss of this lieutenant, what we hear, dedicated a lot of time to the community. dedicated 30 years of his life to the police force and he is a husband and also a father of four. michaela? >> keep us posted on any developments as the manhunt continues. in baltimore, police bracing for potential protesting as a hearing gets under way this morning for the six officers charged in connection with the

death of freddie gray. we have the latest in baltimore now. jean? >> reporter: this is a very important hearing today, pretrial hearing for the six officers. we expect increased law enforcement around the courthouse. they are telling the entire force they can't take leave today. if they have the day off, they have to come in because they want to be ready for anything. community activists are encouraging peaceful demonstrations and protests surrounding the hearing. they are also asking them to go to the higher socioeconomic areas for the protests. it is because of the hearing. this is a critical hearing because the defense is asking for some or all charges to be dismissed outright. they are also saying the state attorney, marilyn mosby has so many conflicts of interest she could recuse herself or berecused by the judge on this case?

i think one that stands out, they say when the police department finished its investigation on may 1st and went before the district court commissioner, 13 minutes later, the first arrest warrant went out and actually, those conclusions are supposed to be given to the prosecutor. they look at it and there is time involved in all of this. they say, that's what began all of this. but, they are also asking for the defendants to either be severed and have separate trials or be tried in groups. i was in that courtroom yesterday for the hearing. it's pretty large. i couldn't help but notice on the defense side, there are 11 chairs for the defense attorneys today in court. we do not expect the six police officers, the defendants themselves to be present. they have waived their appearance in this extremely important hearing. john? >> i want to bring in baltimore city councilman nick mosby. his wife is the state attorney,

marily mosby who will be prosecuting this case. thank you for being with us. we just -- >> thanks for having me on, john. >> we heard jean casarez say how the police canceled leave. they are concerned about the possibility of tensions. what are your expectations heading into today? >> it's important to be prepared. i think we saw back in april how the city of baltimore was not prepared. i think, you know, the police department has taken all precautions to ensure that no matter what takes place, they are prepared for it. i'll be honest with you, john, i did not expect to see what the hype is around, if there's going to be any major tension. i think there will be some protest. i expect it to be peaceful and productive. >> the police are prepared. do you think the city is prepared? all over the country, we have seen protests that black lives matter move.

a lot of times calling for due process. they want the cases to go to trial. they want them to get before a judge. here, it has gone before a judge. is the city prepared for the possibility that the judge doesn't rule the way they want them to? >> i think the main line of defense associated with any unrest is the police. yeah, i have full confidence in the interim police commissioner. i think he's had the advantage of kind of seeing what took place back in april, which we clearly were not prepared for. you know, it's my expectation that the police will be prepared. again, i don't expect to see any unproductive or any issues that we saw back in april, today. >> now, the defense filed a claim. they want the judge to dismiss the case based on what they claim to be misconduct by your wife, the state's attorney. are you confident the charges

will stand? >> i can't speak to that. i'm not a lawyer, have not looked at the case in-depth. i don't have the ability to speak to that. >> you do serve a role here. you are married to the state's attorney. i understand there is a wall and you have to keep things separate. how is she doing heading into this day? this is a day a lot of people have their eyes on. >> i think she's doing fine. i had a long night last night, you got me up early today. didn't have much time to speak with her. i think she's doing okay. >> again, some of the issues discussed by the defense, they are saying misconduct and conflict of interest. she recused herself from other cases. there's a case right now where a police commander's son is charged of murder. she recused herself from the case because she knows the police commander. some people are saying she

should recuse herself from this. any thoughts on that? >> again, that's something you should take up with her. i think in the near future, we will hear the ruling from the judge. no, i don't have any specific opinions associated with that. >> let me ask you what is going on in baltimore right now. 33 homicides in the last 30 days. do you have any explanations why this is happening? >> i mean, unfortunately, in urban areas, crime is cyclical. we like to pat ourselves on the back when the numbers go down and chase new plans when crime goes up. if you don't change the structural issues in the poor, urban environments that are filled with illegal guns, that are filled with elicit drugs, the byproduct of that is crime. we can continue to act as if

this is a new phenomenon in america. unfortunately, most of the cameras don't come until you have these spikes in crime. they don't come to really try to expose the structural issue that is have been in place in these communities for decades. that's the discussion we need to start having. >> hopefully we will continue to have that discussion. let me ask you this. you are an elected official. your wife as well. everything happening, there is criticism because she's heading to a fund-raiser in a couple weeks. do you think it's appropriate to raise money while the case is at the forefront and being tried? >> again, john, i don't know if i'm not making myself clear enough, but i'm not the appropriate person to answer that. maybe her campaign or office or herself. that has nothing to do with me. i think what we need to focus on is, you know, the issue that is are putting us in this position.

i represent an area of west baltimore that, unfortunately, for decades has seen complete disinvestment. unfortunately, when you look at the jobless rate, unfortunately, when you look at the lack of growth and opportunity, as all americans, these young men that we continue to put across the camera screens, at the end of the day are america's children. that's what we need to focus on. how do we develop another generation with a trajectory. >> councilman, you have made yourself clear. thank you for getting up with us this morning. thank you very much. alisyn? >> president obama finishing up his trip to alaska. a hike to see a receding glacier. he pushed urgency on climate change. jim acosta joins us live from anchorage. >> reporter: president obama is racking up a lot of miles on the ground and the water here in

alaska delivering an urgent message on climate change. he will be the first sitting u.s. president to visit the alaskan arctic. what they hope will be one of the lasting images of the obama presidency. i got a chance to follow him on a boat tour off the southern alaska coast, taking a look at the glaciers melting rapidly as a result of climate change. we saw stunning wildlife that you see inhabiting this corner of the world, including endangered sea lions. as we pause, i asked the president for his impressions of the tour. he remarked on the giant chunks of ice that are broken loose from the glacier. here is what the president had to say. >> itting in a lake right there. periodically, the icebergs will break up with ice.

each of those icebergs are about the size of a costco. >> reporter: now we did double check with a ranger and he said sometimes they are that size. the president hiked up a melting glacier. it has that name for a reason, guys. it's melted 1,000 feet in the last ten years. he taped a reality tv special with bear grills. no word on whether they got up close and personal with wildlife. asked for the trip to the arctic later this afternoon. he will hear from fishermen who say their livelihoods are being threatened and get updated on nearby communities that are reloca relocating. michaela, he is hoping to drive home the message that it is happening here in alaska and across the world. >> it's been an eventful week for the president and eventful

visit to alaska. thanks for traveling with him and bring thag to us. meanwhile, the obama administration is launching a secret drone operation to kill isis in syria. the cia and special operations commander participating in a targeted killing program. they have already conducted deadly strikes. the secret operation marks an escalation of the involvement. >> wrestling legend facing murder charges in the death of his girlfriend, nancy, some 32 years ago. evidence in that cold case reveals she had been abused and died of a skull fracture and brain injuries. the now 72-year-old is battling lung cancer and denied wrong doing. well, the jeb bush/donald trump feud escalating this morning. bush blasting trump. donald firing back. who is winning?

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donald trump now counter punching after jeb bush attacks his record as conservative. trump spoke to don lemon and hit on issues. >> you put out an instagram video attacking jeb bush on

monday. he hit back with a video of his own, calling you out as a liberal. >> when jeb is paying for the ads by the lobbyists, special interests and donors and they want him to do something like this. i would get along with hillary, bill and everybody. now, i'm in a different world. i'm sort of a politician, you would say. as you can see from the polls, we are doing well because people are tired of politics. he mentioned the fact that i was, at one point, democrat. well, in new york city, everybody was a democrat, practically. if you run for city council or political office, there was almost no election because the republicans hardly exist in new york city. i think, me, more than anybody else, i will go across and have a lot of democrats voting for me, far more than any republican for the last long period of time. >> ben carson is running neck in

neck, 23% in the latest iowa poll. are you surprised by this poll and his popularity? >> well, i was a little surprised to see it. i have been leading in iowa by a lot. i had a bigger surge than anybody, even ben. i like ben. i think he's a nice person. i have met him numerous times and i like him. >> are you going to go after him? >> you know, ben and i have gotten to know each other over the years. i like him. i don't know. i can't tell you what's going to happen. i really don't know. politics is a very, it's a very strange thing and a strange place you end up in. >> you said you are going to do something about immigration. undocumented immigrants that you would deport them. that's one group where your poll numbers have not been favorable among hispanics and you met privately with the chamber of commerce. >> we had a very nice meeting. it worked out.

i think we had a good understanding. all my life, i have had great relationships with hispanics. i have employed tens of thousands over my career. this has nothing to do with hispanic, it has to do with stopping illegal immigration. i think i'm going to win with hispanics. a lot of people smile, but actually the people that live here, hispanics that are legal, that came in through the long, hard process, they absolutely have a great feeling about me and i have a great feeling about them. >> joining us now to talk all about this is cnn political commentator, anna and jeffrey, a cnn political commentator. great to have you both here. anna great to have you here in studio. you heard donald trump, i think i'm going to win with hispanics. he met with the ceo of the hispanic chamber of commerce. it sounds like he's on the charm offensive and maybe he will turn

around the hispanic vote. >> he's got a long, long, long way to go. it's over a year before the election. he needs to use every single day he's going to turn around an hispanic vote. the polls show 75% disapproval with hispanics. there's a lot of controversial things that hispanics, i don't think -- there are some hispanics who like him. there are some who find that he's a businessman. he's not politics as usual. i know some of them. some of them are my friends. i think they are crazy, but they like him. the vast majority of hispanics realize he has been offensive to hispanics. we don't like people that offend us. >> they had a long, fruitful conversation. they may do a public event coming up. >> he is no idiot. if he can get trump to his event, which is coming up this month, it is going to be huge

press, huge attention and maybe a donation for his organization. so, i think, you know, i think it's a smart thing for him to do in terms of marketing for his organization. i can tell you, in south florida, the largest builder's association just pulled their event from trump even though it meant a deposit and means it may risk a lawsuit because they felt so strongly they didn't want to be at his resort. >> let's talk about jeb bush. we have seen a more aggressive bush going after trump. there are ads about how trump used to be liberal and used to be a democrat. you are laughing. shouldn't jeb bush put up his dukes? >> well, i think, at this point, this is all he's got left. this is desperation time here. he's riding along in the polls at 5% of 6% in the last two polls we saw. what else is he to do?

i'm sure he's going to fight back and continue to fight back. i think donald trump understands that perfectly, so i expect we will see more of this as we go along. >> we have been talking to people here. maggie was errol were here. they are not convinced the attack from jeb bush is going to land. let me ask you, is this the best he can do? >> i think it's going to be a consistent strategy. i do think somebody has to go through the trouble and through the effort of unmasking and revealing donald trump for what he is. a guy who has been a liberal. a lot of his life, recently became the conservative before the liberal in new york. >> is this what an angry jeb bush looks like in. >> you know, i don't think you are going to see jeb bush breathe fire. that's not his type of thing. i think you are going to see him

fight back and frankly, i think he needs to embrace it. he can't be the punching bag. for a while, people were like, is this for real? is this going to go away? donald trump earned the right to be taken seriously. he's got the numbers, filed the financial disclosure. he wants to pick a fight. embrace the fight. as a jeb donor and supporter, hell yes. embrace the fight. if that's what they want, okay, we get to a point where there's going to be one. not 17 candidates. it will go down to four or five. hopefully jeb is one of them and we can give the voters a choice. >> bring it on, as they say. >> you think it shows desperation, but you would do it if you were jeb. ha is the alternative. >> jeb is desperate out there. >> nothing. cruise along. you know, he can't afford to do this at this point. remember, this was supposed to be the, you know, the great hope

of the moderate republicans, the so-called rhinos. he was supposed to be the guy scooping up all the endorsements, got all the money from lobbyists in washington, d.c. he's a bush. everything was supposed to be in his favor. it hasn't turned out that way. i never bought into the hype. i didn't get it here. i thought there were a lot of negatives he was going to have. his dad's tax cut. a lot of things from his dad to his brother and from himself, common core. his position of 2012 saying he'd consider a tax deal and all this like his dad did. you know, these kind of things add up. i never thought this was a sell in today's republican party. sort of reaganized republican party. >> donald trump seems to have an answer for everything. over the last day, the one thing i have not heard an answer for is ben carson. what does he do about dr. ben

carson, now tied in iowa? it's not like ben carson is lighting anyone on fire. he's not out there on the stump going crazy. is trump going to start talking about ben carson the way he's talking about jeb bush? >> we'll see. i'm not sure he knows himself, at this point. one thing about politics is when you get down to a two-person race and we are a ways from that. if it came down to a trump versus carson race or trump versus anyone race, i think that, you know, you would start to see sparks. you look through american history. it is just chock full of these examples. john f. kennedy and lyndon johnson and nelson rockefeller and barry goldwater and on and on it goes. bill clinton and others. in the end, most of the time, they make up and move on. a lot of times they win. i expect there may well be some of this. this is a good thing, not a bad

thing. this kind of friction generates positions on issues. it's a very good thing. it's part of the democratic process z. have at it. >> ten seconds, what do you think of ben carson? >> frankly, i find it surprising. he hasn't been in iowa that much. he hasn't been a, you know, like donald trump is like the holy spirit. he's everywhere at the same time. he's on every media network, giving interviews. ben carson has not had the same profile. his numbers are rise zing. he hasn't spent that much money. it's like, it's just -- it's just the nature of ben carson. >> donald trump, like the holy spirit. i'm sure that analogy has never been made. even though he doesn't quote the bible or mocked communion. other than that, yeah. >> a hell of a stretch. we have to leave it there. more tomorrow. speaking of tomorrow, on "new day," we'll speak with carly

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helping to bridge the digital divide. the fbi joining a manhunt for three suspect that is shot and killed a suspect in illinois. they are assisting state and local police using canine teams to track down the trio 69 miles north of chicago. the gunman killed a 30-year fox lake veteran as he pursued them on foot tuesday morning. several school districts are shut down as the manhunt intensifies. baltimore police are gearing up as a hearing gets under way for the six officers charged in the death of freddie gray. some motions to be considered are whether to try the officers together or separately and whether state's attorney marilyn

mosby should get moved off the case over conflicts of interest. freddie gray died in police custody in april from a spinal cord injury. have you ever craved an egg mcmuffin at dinner time? >> have i ever not? >> starting october 6, mcdonald's will begin serving breakfast all day long. >> america cheers and cries at the same time. >> they started testing the concept in select markets months ago. in the past year, 120,000 requests for all daybreak fasts were registered on twitter. most of them from john berman. i have a surprise for you. sausage mcmuffin. >> i'm an egg mcmuffin. hash browns. >> i have four left. >> you know who is going to be jealous of this. john king, inside politics, breakfast all day. i know this changed your day, did it not? >> i'm feeling left out.

isn't technology to the point i can reach through and grab it. give it up john berman. enjoy your snack. we are going inside politics to have fun. joining me is margaret from bloomberg news and lisa from associated press. i said hillary clinton is in the eye of the beholder. i think that's true. people think they know her and have made their judgments. there's a story in the washington post about the e-mail controversy that will further it. the key point in the story is while secretary of state, she wrote and sent at least six e-mails using her private server that contained what the government now says is classified information. i want to show you what they look like. you get the e-mails and see blank space on the paper. if you look on the screen, where you see the blank, that's redacted materials. material that the government says is classified. i note the classification is

8/27/15. hillary clinton has not been secretary of state for some time. republicans say we told you so. you were handling sensitive information, you should have known better. >> it was not classified at the time. >> it wasn't marked classified so i haven't said anything that isn't technically true. you get into this when is classified classified? where there's smoke there's fire or where there's smoke there's smoke. it's yet to be determined. the six e-mails in question create enough questions to keep this controversy going. it's very much up in the air. it's not open and shut case. >> margaret is right. the details are mind spinning. you can't quite wrap your heads around it. if we can't wrap our minds around it, the average voter can't really unpack that, either. the issue, the concern is this

sets an early narrative, an old narrative that the clintons are not trustworthy, consider themselves above the law. that is dangerous to her campaign. the campaign doesn't know how to stop it. they have tried a bunch of approaches. they tried not engaging with it and rising above. they have tried engaging. neither has worked. the only thing that may change it may be joe biden. >> maybe her testimony, getting to the end of the release. hillary clinton says she wants it transparent. it's being done because of a lawsuit and a judge said you must release these, month by month my month. she knew she was taking one of the most sensitive jobs in the world. more so now. back then, cyber security is a big issue. she knew her last name is clinton, which brings skrooutny and she knew she might run for president. she should have done it on a

government server. if she had, we wouldn't be having this information. >> if she had, she wouldn't be able to pick the e-mails that she released. the e-mail that is are released on the court order are only the one that is hillary clinton has already decided pertain to work. the ones she decided don't pertain to work we don't see and nobody is overseeing that other than her and her staff. >> you e-mail about your life and dog adoption, you do it on a separate account, right? there was a way out of this for secretary clinton,ly say that. you mentioned joe biden. you are getting on air force 2 and going to the great state of florida with the vice president. he's going to do an education event today. he does a town hall on iran trying to convince democrats to get on board with the deal. then he moves on to georgia. he's marching in a labor day parade in pennsylvania. with top labor leaders, then

he's going to be on the first week of stephen colbert when he takes over for david letterman. what am i to take of this? >> we all want to see, like, you know, how is he going to do it? he's not going to announce anything. he'll be coy. all of these are official stops on behalf of president obama's official policies. these are iran and the community colleges, the economy. you know, helping out democrats running for senate. but, embedded in all these things is his kind of tryout. his quiet tryout for testing the waters. how much appetite is there? everybody loves joe biden. many in the democratic establishment think he is a more viable alternative with sanders if clinton has a problem. biden is a perpetual vice president in waiting. the whole candidacy is he's there in case hillary clinton

collapses. that's frustrating for him. if he had to make a decision about his viability, the reason to get in now is in case something happens later. >> as you get more and more public, he's leaning in and doing public events at a time everyone is thinking about this. the second he says he's not running, he loses leverage. at a time he's thinking and going through political and emotional parts of it. to lean this far forward is going to ratchet it up. >> every day i talk to people in washington. every day i get a different assessment of whether he's running or not. 60/40, yes. 70/30, no. nobody knows except the vice president and his close family and aides, if he's decide. we don't know. it's smart politically for him to lean in. the truth is, this would be hard. i was at the dnc summer meeting in minneapolis. there wasn't much of an outcry for joe biden. hillary clinton has more than 400 people working for her.

she has a huge machine. itis not late, right? but it is late in the context of presidential politics and the amount of machinery used to build in a series of ways. it would be an organizational lift for him. >> cnn announced we were amendiamen amending our criteria for the presidential debate. it's complicated, actually it's not. the change will allow carly fiorina a space on the debate stage. she was doing an interview with megaen mccain. carly fiorina says she got a text. tough listen to this priceless moment. >> literally, as we are speaking, i just got a text that cnn amended their gop debate criteria? >> shut up! does that mean you will be on the stage? >> i'm not sure what will be more fun.

she said nice things about cnn. that's two presidential candidates. we know meghan mccain is told to shut up. what are we to make of this? 11 podiums on the debate stage, there may be ten. the amended rules are to deal with the carly fiorina, the slingshot candidate out of the last debate. it was unclear she was going to get the spot. >> they want a woman on the stage given that hillary clinton seems like she is the democratic nominee. they are happy about it. you know, it makes for a better debate. we are happy about it. good job cnn. >> a good problem to a crowded field. this is a decision to include a female continue who is dynamic and generated a lot of interest. >> this is the alls well that

ends well. if you are divided between bush and trump, bush's campaign is trying a quiz on their website to go through a list of questions to see which candidate you prefer. when you are done with your egg mcmuffins, just for sport. >> he's going for three or four. it will take a minute. >> wheel him out of there. >> we'll have to. great conversation there. thank you so much. a kentucky clerk claims to be acting on god's authority to find a supreme court and issue same-sex marriage licenses. kim davis is going to have to answer to a federal judge. where does the fight go next? so this beauty can be yours and 10% financing.ment oh larry, lawrence. thanks to the tools and help at experian.com,

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the supreme court ruled against her. davis is ruled to appear in court tomorrow. what happens now? jeffrey toobin is here. he is a cnn legal analyst and former prosecutor. this news she's been summoned to court to be present in court thursday afternoon. she can file by the end of day today. she's got to answer to it. >> the judge said you can file a response but only five pages. when they say five pages, they do not want to hear much from you. we talk complicated issues, this is not one of them. >> it isn't. >> the law could not be clearer, in all 50 states, in every county, gay people, straight people, have an equal right to be married. she has to perform the weddings or leave her job.

>> what kind of recourse does kentucky have? she is an elected official, right? she can't just be fired or handed walking papers? >> what recourse does the federal court have? they are the one in charge. they can hold her in contempt and establish a series of fines. they can lock her up. when you don't comply with a federal court order, the judge has the right and this judge here seems quite willing to impose penalties to make you comply. that's what contempt of court is. the plaintiffs ask she not be put in court, but fined. >> the plaintiffs are being sophisticated. they don't want to make her a martyr or sympathetic figure. >> do you think that was in play here? if the law is clear here, what

is her end game? >> i don't think she's thought it through in that way. i think martyr is her end game. she is not going to win. in thinking about the story, what strikes me is not how much opposition there is to the supreme court, but how little. i mean this decision is only a couple months old. same-sex marriage used to be a controversial issue in this country. we have one county clerk in one county in kentucky who is making a stand here. but look at the silence everywhere else. look how everyone else is complying. >> what's interesting is she has been saying to people, go to another county and get your license. >> some people are going to stay, why not quit your job, if you want to take a stand, object that way, walking off the job. >> the government cannot operate that way. if she said to an interracial couple that came to her, i have a moral, religious objection to

your marriage as many did and some do, you can get married but just not in my county. >> we don't recognize that. >> legally, the situation is precise. >> there's the contempt of court motion. she is also trying to take her case to the supreme court, right? >> she's trying. they have already once denied a stay. >> right. she's appealing it. >> she's appealing it. but there is no legal recourse. the supreme court ruled on precisely this issue. so, there is nothing more for the supreme court to decide. this is not the same thing as the issue of the florists and the wedding photographers who are private sector people. i mean, i think, legally, they don't have a leg to stand on either, but it's more complicated because they are private sector. they can act on their religious beliefs, but when she represents

it government, it's a much easier legal question. >> i want to pull up the kentucky aclu filing. the religious freedom act. they say this court found the burden under davis' religious beliefs more slight than substantial. the governor asked davis to cig nif fi -- did not compel, condone or approve same-sex marriage. they are not asking her to endorse it, just do her job. >> do her job. >> which show swore an oath to do. >> the other point,itis not just about her rights, it's the rights of people in her county to get married. when you work for the government, you have the right to grant or deny marriages, where as, if you are a wedding photographer, you can go to a

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officer down fox lake. subjects are armed and dangerous. >> cop killers on the loose and a community on edge. >> a massive search is now underway. >> i don't think they're going to leave a rock unturned. >> it is a very tough time to be a police officer. jeb bush firing off his harshest attack so far. >> in many cases i probably identify more as a democrat. >> using his own words is not a mischaracterization. they came out of his own mouth.

>> he's way down in the polls. secretary of state john kerry delivering a major speech on the iran deal. >> i am voting for this agreement because it is our most credible opportunity now. >> president obama now one vote away. >> when somebody says you want to cut your throat, the last thing you should do is buy them a knife. >> this is "new day." . good morning and welcome back to your "new day." it is wednesday, september 2nd, 8:00 in the east. up first, three suspected cop killers on the loose in illinois, choppers, canine teams and federal agents all joining a widening hunt this morning. we've learned that schools will remain closed out of an abundance of caution. the community is in mourning over the death of a veteran police lieu ttenanlieutenant. two officers fatally shooting a man who appears to have his hands in the air. also in baltimore police

bracing for possible violence as hearings begin for six officers charged in the death of freddie gray. cnn has these three stories covered starting with rosa flores in illinois. that's the scene of the manhunt. what's the latest? >> reporter: people here with not even mourn in peace. because here we are less than 24 hours after a police officer was shot and killed. people have to watch their backs and lock their doors because these cop killers on the loose. here is how it all started. according to authorities yesterday at 8:00 a.m. lieutenant gliniewicz was investigating suspicious activity when he radioed into dispatch letting them know he was on a short foot case. here is his last exchange with radio dispatch. >> could you start for fox lake for an officer down? they were responding to a report of a suspicious male black and a

male white. it appears the officer's gun is missing now. >> responding to officer down fox lake. subjects are to be considered armed and dangerous. air one has been advised. >> reporter: local, state and federal authorities came in. a massive manhunt was in place and is in place still right now. canines, dozens of them, air support as well. but here we are about 24 hours later and no sign of the suspects. this morning, schools are closed and this community is in mourning. they are mourning the loss of lieutenant gliniewicz, a man who dedicated more than 30 years of his life to this police department. he is a father of four. he is also a husband and a very, very loved person in this community. john. . >> so many people there seemed to know him. thank you so much. new questions this morning

about a deadly police shooting in texas. there are not just one but two videos that show deputies firing the fatal shots at a man who appears to have his hands in the air. we have seen one video. will the second one now be released? sara sidner live for us in san antonio. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, john. at this point the second video will not be released. the district attorney says he has viewed it along with members of the fbi and that it is disturbing. he said it shows a very clear picture of what happened. in the first video, you can only see one of the suspect's hands before he is shot. that hand being up like this. and the second video, the district attorney says you can see both of his hand. we want to warn you, the video you're about to see is disturbing. fi officials in texas are now examining two videos, capturing this officer-involved shooting in san antonio. >> i just shot that [ bleep ], bro. >> reporter: this video shows

veteran officers shooting and killing 41-year-old gilbert flores friday afternoon. >> i just cold-blooded shot that [ bleep ]. >> reporter: the man who recorded the video tells us he was surprised to see the officers open fire when the suspect clearly had at least one arm raised. >> then you shoot him after he steps back, not attacking you or anything like that? >> reporter: officials say the second video not released to the public shows a much closer and clearer angle. the d.a. and sheriff both discouraging kneejerk reactions. >> the videos are troubling. but what i encourage people to do is not react. >> reporter: the officers arrived at flores's house responding to a domestic dispute call. >> the male that called it in assaulted his wife and child. so possibly two patients. and he is also threatening

suicide. >> reporter: when police arrived, they say he is armed with a knife and resisting arrest. >> they also tried to use nonlethal weapons to try and detain him. and after a lengthy confrontation, both deputies fired shots, causing the man's death. >> reporter: thomas first provided this video to ksat. the sheriff's office labeling it as unethical and sad for the news station to purchase and show the video. the station says it's their obligation to inform the public, saying in part, it is not uncommon for news organizations to pay for video from freelancers or citizen journalists. now, the district attorney has told us that he is grateful for the video, saying that both of the videos and the other evidence will really help them determine whether or not these officers will be charged.

we also know that the family has hired an attorney and that attorney says he plans to sue. baltimore police preparing for potential unrest as a hearing gets underway for the six officers charged in the death of freddie gray. what's the scene there, jean? >> reporter: the scene is that the courthouse is just opening right now. so the court day is beginning. the hearing is in about an hour and a half. we did hear there's going to be increased police presence around the courthouse. and also the possibility of protesters. our producer just saw several people with great big signs that are trying to find a place to protest in front of the courthouse. the police department says if anything happens -- because this is a critical hearing today. there are some major issues at stake. police department saying they will be ready. and any of the officers twhan d that wanted to take leave today and not come in, they're saying

you have to be here. we have to have a full force. they would rather have an abundance of people readily available as needed. the reason being, the defense is asking for the charges to be dismissed, all in part saying there is no reasonable basis in fact for these charges to be brought against these six officers in relation to the death of freddie gray. obviously the probabilisecutor disagreeing very strongly in that. speaking of the prosecutor, the defense says there are so many conflicts of interest with ma marilyn mosby that she should be reaccused. a special prosecutor should be brought in. on the night before the charges were announced, the prosecutor's office had a special meeting with the assistant medical examiner. this is before the defense says in documents that a cause and manner of death was even established. and then the next day there are

arrest warrants that are issued. prosecutors saying we believe beyond a reasonable doubt these charges are justified and we can prove them with a jury of the peers of the police officers right here in baltimore. we don't know if the judge will rule from the bench or take this under advisement. but the community is aware this is happening today. well, the gloves are off between donald trump and jeb bush. trump taking to cnn to fire back at bush's latest attacks. all of this as a new poll shows trump's unfavorable numbers are inching the wrong way, especially among hispanics. >> reporter: these are not good numbers from this new "washington post" abc poll. it shows among all voters, donald trump has just a 37% favorability rating versus 59%

unfavorable. while his favorability may be creeping up in iowa, it's not doing so well with the broader electorate. jeb bush's favorability numbers are not much better. he's only at 38% favorability rating. after months of hits from trump, bush is now trying to show a little more fight. he's striking back on social media which is one of trump's favorite means of communication. meanwhile these hits from trump are still coming. >> jeb is paying for these ads by the lobbiests and special interests and donors. >> reporter: trump not holding back on anything or anyone, including jeb bush. >> he's getting all this money from people that are lobbyists. a tough group of people. i know all of them. and they want him to do something. and he should do something because he's got to fight back and he's way down in the polls. >> reporter: hitting on his poor poll petition.

the former florida governor has long been a trump target. bush tuesday firing back in front of the cameras. >> this is not a guy who's a conservative. and using his own words is not a mischaracterization. they came out of his own mouth. >> i lived in new york city and manhattan all my life. so my views are a little bit different than if i lived in iowa. i'm very pro-choice. hillary clinton i think is a terrific woman. you'd be shocked if i said that in many cases i probably identify more as a democrat. >> reporter: trump, who ea's lo of social media has become legendary, took to twitter to call bush weak. >> we recognize the commitment of someone who has devoted her life to public service. >> reporter: and after weeks of tough talk on illegal immigration -- >> they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime. >> reporter: trump spent more

than an hour at trump tower talking about the issue. and the hispanic electorate with the head of the hispanic chamber of commerce. >> he understands the hispanic vote will be critically important, not only for him but for anybody seeking the white house. >> reporter: and that meeting with the hispanic chamber of commerce president was at trump's request. both sides said it went well. they said they wanted trump to clarify his policies on immigration and other issues and said he's agreed to appear in a public q and a session later this fall. should be interesting. we'll keep a lookout for all of that. joining us now to discuss the entire 2016 race is wesley clark, former four star navy general. he of course ran for president in 2004. good morning, general. >> good morning, alisyn. >> in 2004 you were seen as a political outsider. you were not a politician before you ran for president. it appears that you were ahead

of your time because this year there is such a deep desire for outsiders. how do you explain what the electorate seems to be saying about people like bernie sanders and donald trump? >> i think there is a legitimate anger in america out there. we've been through the financial crisis. people my age, they've seen their savings get no interest rates whatsoever. we know that money is su subsidizing big banks. the housing market has not really come back. and much of america, despite the fact there's some -- we're still involved in fighting. people have a sense there's something wrong. they don't know exactly what it is. but they want clean, clear answers. and that's what we've seen over the summer from both parties, because they're looking for easy answers. and the things, here's the trouble, alisyn, there are no easy answers for this, because it's taken over 30 years to get

where we are from the reagan administration in 1980 through right now. we're not going to find an easy, quick fix. but the american public is expressing its frustration, its anger. and that's what sanders and trump are both tapping. >> you said people are looking for clean, clear answers. that leads to the next question about hillary clinton. how big of a deal do you think it is, this investigation into her e-mails? >> well, i think it's a great political boon to the republicans. but if you ask, is there any real substance to this issue, the answer is, don't think so. all of us who have been in government and especially those who have worked at high levels and seen the interplay between the various intelligence agencies, the pentagon and the state department, know there's a lot of -- let's call it slack in the system. there are people who say things, refer to things, send e-mails,

have telephone conversations that, if you went strictly by the guidelines and tracked it back afterwards, you'd say, well, he shouldn't say that because that could be classified. but people say things in a way -- and some of this stuff got into hillary's e-mail system. >> yeah. >> and it wasn't classified at the time. it wasn't marked classified. and she would never have tried to use that system to handle classified data. but when you go back and look at it, there's some junior person who says, your responsibility is you tell us if this could have been classified. of course they're going to say, oh, that could be classified. there's a lot of fluff in this. >> you're an interesting person to talk to about this. so many people say general petraeus lost his job over this same thing.

how can you say there's nothing there when the investigation isn't done yet? >> well, because the two circumstances are entirely different. now, the general had a great military career. he was an outstanding director of the central intelligence agency by all reports. however, what he did was put together a collection of classified documents, highly sensitive documents that were marked with classification and delivered them to a writer, someone he was involved with personally. and he did that intentionally. he then attempted to conceal that. this is totally different. from people in the normal course of the day e-mailing the secretary of state and saying, are you going to be able to make the dinner tonight, and, what about the issue with the givelte fish and things like this?

it's entirely different. no connection to this. >> let's talk about joe biden. he's going to be going on the new late show with stephen colbert, i believe on september 10th. some people say why would he be going on there? maybe he's making some sort of big announcement. do you think joe biden is going to get into this race? >> i haven't spoken to vice president biden. i know him. he's been a friend. i think the world of him. my personal opinion is i don't think he's going to get into the race. i think it's important that he is looking at it. i think it's great. he's a great public servant. he's done a great job as vice president. but this is all about an effort by, again, i think a hot of mischief by the republican party to puff up the chance that maybe there will be people coming in, elizabeth ward and joe biden against hillary clinton. i mean, when dick cheney

encourages joe biden to run, then you have to believe that there's some ulterior motive, some hidden agenda there. i think, you know, if hillary were to get sick, if she were to drop out of the race, sure that's an entirely different thing. let me tell you something. hillary clinton is a -- she's self-made. there's no dynasty here. she came from nothing, really. just an ordinary family. her parents weren't any big deal. she made it to a great college on the basis of her own efforts. she's leader. she's the most experienced candidate at every level we've ever had stand for national office. and she stands up for people who need help. she's pragmatic. she did a great job as secretary of state managing the state department. even henry kissinger said she's the best secretary of state we've ever had. on all sides, it's really about

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you to think to record this incident? >> i was actually just in the neighborhood. i stopped by the corner store right by there to get some food on the way back to my job. i saw cops and ambulances down there. i kind of went down the road and checked out what was going on. there was two cops in a row. one had a riot shield pointed at a guy in the yard. so i turned around and sat there for a while, just watching them. i was like there's been a lot of things going on in the world, so as i'm sitting here i'll pull my camera out and see what's going on. i started recording then. >> from your vantage point, sometimes cell phones don't see it as well as our own eyes see it. did it seem like the suspect was posing any threat to the officers? >> at the time he was shot, it didn't look like he was posing a threat to the cops, no ma'am. >> from one advantage poi-- poi

it looks like the telephone pole is in the way. what did you see? >> it happened so fast, i can't tell you, yes, i saw both his hands up. you can see from the video at least one hand is up. >> we understand there is a recorded radio conversation between the county dispatcher and the ems units on the scene. we understand that flores had injured his wife and child. we understand also that he was threatening suicide. let's play the recording first. >> looks like the male that called it in assaulted his wife and child, so possibly two patients. and he is also threatening suicide. so possibly three patients. >> we are talking to the subject now. he's outside talking to them and he has a knife in his hands. >> suspect down at this time. shots fired. >> so mark, it sounds like this all started as a domestic call,

right? what more do we know about flores? >> right. it began was a domestic call. deputies were dispatched to the seen around 11:30 a.m. on friday. they arrived and found a woman with a gash in her head holding a baby who may have also been injured. flores was outside and armed with a knife at the time. apparently there was a lengthy confrontation prior to the actual shooting that is not seen in the video that was played by our local tv. but exactly what happened in the time leading up to shots being fired is still unclear at this point. >> right. and that's what michael's video does not show. i tluunderstand there's a secon video that's been obtained by authorities. does it give a different vantage point. >> that video has still not been

made public. however, authorities heres t it troubling. >> interesting. michael i want to show you a tweet that we saw from the station that you sold your video to. apparently we hear that the county sheriff's office is now saying that because of this video that some of their officers are receiving death threats. what made you decide to take the video to the media before taking it to the authorities? >> i just kind of thought that maybe it had something to do with the cops so i didn't want to go directly to them with the video. i talked to some people at my job when i got back. they said i should go to the news and let them do what they want with it instead of giving it to the cops are maybe it would go under the rug. >> you're such a young man. i hope this is not going to scar you having seen this scene play

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. welcome back to "new day." president obama just one vote away from ensuring the nuclear deal with iran survives congress. two more senators now affirming their support despite serious reservations. one of those senators is a democrat from delaware who's on the foreign relations committee. senator, thank you so much for being with us this morning. you said, frankly this is not the deal you hoped for and you have concerns about whether the u.s. can hold iran to the terms. so an unsatisfactory deal that you don't think the u.s. can enforce, that hardly sounds like a ringing endorsement.

>> that's right. i think this was a very close call. coming out in support of this deal doesn't change my unwa unwaveering support for israel. the u.k., france, germany, the e.u., that they will stand with us during the whole lifetime of this deal even as their own countries begin to develop closer economic sties. if we can count on them -- and i was ultimately convinced we can -- and if we can aggressively enforce this deal, i think it can end up being a positive deal. the deal does accomplish some big things. iran has to give up their 12ura they have built up over the last decade. they have to let in inspectors

who will be physically present and monitoring all of their nuclear sites, their whole nuclear fuel cycle for more than 15 years. but i am very concerned about what iran will do with the tens of billions of dollars they'll get that they'll likely use to support terrorism. and what happens in 15 years when they have an industrial scale civilian nuclear enrichment program. >> 56% of those polled said they believe the world will be less safe because of this deal. let's project 15 years forward. how confident are you as you sit here right now that the united states, that israel will be more safe than we are right now from iran and a nuclear arsenal? >> well, there's no guarantee that iran will dash toward developing a nuclear weapons arsenal 15 years from now. what this deal lays out is a pathway for them to have a large civilian monitored nuclear enrichment program.

we will be more capable of effectively striking iran if they decide to take a nuclear energy program and turn it into a nuclear weapons program. but i frankly think whether that happens will in some significant part be influenced by how strongly we enforce the deal and whether we convey that there is a credible, conventional deterrent capability, both for israel and for the united states to take out iranian facilities. >> senator, the president is one vote away from making sure the senate can't block this deal right now. some are saying could be six votes away from perhaps being able to support a filibuster in the senate, meaning there will never be an up or down vote in the senate on the nuclear deal. do you think there needs to be an up or down vote in the senate on this? >> i think there should be. and i had a conversation with one of the senators in our caucus leadership yesterday. technically we will be on the bill right when we get back next week. >> right. >> so we will debate this.

but this all comes down to whether or not majority leader mcconnell will reach an agreement with minority leader reid to let us go straight to the vote and have an up or down vote which should be a 60-vote margin. and ultimately it's filibustered as were by a 60-vote margin. i would think it would be really regrettable if we didn't ultimately go to the floor and cast our votes for or against this deal. >> let me ask you a presidential politics question right now. you supported the vice president. you worked for him in his 2008 campaign. have you spoken to him about the responsibility of joe biden running for president? >> yes. we have spoken a number of times about it and i have reached out and said, it was my honor to go to iowa and campaign for him in 2008 and i'd be honored and thrilled to get to do it again.

i had the chance to work closely with secretary clinton when she was secretary of state and i think she is a very capable, very seasoned senator and former first lady and secretary of state and would make a great president. but as someone who's from delaware and really admires the vice president, i think he is the best and strongest voice for america's middle class and the national security expert in the administration. i will wait until i hear from joe. and i think he is deeply divided. i think he is a man understandably grieving over the loss of his talented and wonderful son. and i think he's going to make a decision and deserves the right to make a decision on his timeline and to make the right decision for his family as well as for the country. >> senator, thank you so much for being with us. appreciate it, sir. >> thank you, john. john, you'll want to listen to this next segment because former vice president dick cheney not a fan of president obama.

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the five things you need to know for your "new day." the fbi joins the manhunt for the man who gunned down a veteran police officer. baltimore police ramping up security as a hearing gets underway for the six officers charged in the death of freddie gray. defense attorneys want the baltimore state attorney off the case over conflicts of interest. donald trump dismissing an attack by jeb bush that questions his conservatism. secretary of state john kerry in philadelphia today delivering a major speech to defend the iran deal. the white house now one senate vote away from ensuring the deal with pass congress. markets are looking to find their footing after an ugly dive

tuesday. stock futures looking more up despite volatility in chinese markets. hillary clinton facing criticism, as you know, over her use of a private e-mail server. and now dick cheney is adding his voice to the mix. the former vice president releasing a new book called exceptional, why the world needs a powerful america. he coauthored that with his daughter liz cheney. it's great to have you as part of the cnn family. >> i am thrilled to be here. thank you so much. we talked to cheney about the gop field. he is not endorsing anyone. he is interested in pushing a democrat, however. joe biden, he's pushing to get in the race. we'll talk about that. but we started with hillary clinton's e-mails. he has very harsh words about those. >> well, it's difficult to know

what her motives were. i found it surprising that somebody as high ranking as secretary of state is dealing with classified and sensitive information all the time would think that it was okay to have a private server in your home. >> how did you handing your e-mails? >> i didn't do e-mails. >> so how would you describe her doing her e-mails this way? >> sloppy and unfro feprofessio. >> she should have known better? >> i think she should have known better. >> do you think the russians and the chinese have her e-mails? >> they've got my personnel records. how could they not have her e-mails? >> liz, when you were deputy assistant secretary of state, you know what it's like to handle very sensitive information. do you think she jeopardized national security? >> i do certainly. i think there's no doubt, given

what we now know, that there was a risk to our national security. >> do you think this undermines or disqualified her candidacy? >> i think there's a very real possibility of that. >> i know you're not in the business of giving the democr democratic party advice. but what do you think of joe biden? >> i'd love to see joe get in the race. >> because? >> go for it, joe. i think it would stir things up. >> he may want joe biden to run, but it isn't stopping cheney from a full-on attack against the white house and the iran nuclear deal. >> president obama says it's the best deal we could get and opponents are pro-war. you say? >> he's wrong. we've done much better than that in the past in other negotiations. he gave away the store. >> president obama said, opponents of the deal are either lying or ignorant.

>> i think that's a very sorry statement by the president of the united states. he ought to read his own agreement. >> you in the book blame the spread of isis on president obama. >> mm-hm. >> he says it's your fault, that bush-cheney left the region unstable. >> well, i think he's wrong. look at the record. iraq was in good shape when we left office and barack obama said as much. what happened basically was they failed to follow through, they withdrew as quickly as possible. they create ad a vacuum and the vacuum was filled by isis. >> do you think we should see another 9/11 style attack on american soil? >> i think we could see another 9 cl 9/11 style attack with nuclear weapons. remember the weapons they used were airline tickets and box cutters. that was a difficult, terrible

day for us, 3,000 casualtcasual. it will be a lot worse with nuclear weapons. >> this debate is going to go next week. he is doing what he's calling a major address next tuesday where he is going to go toe to toe again with president obama on the iran nuclear deal. >> interesting. >> thanks so much. good to see you. m.j. mitty became a star in breaking bad. dr. sanjay gupta shows us in today's human factor. >> growing up with cerebral palsy he had to contend with a lot of noes. >> having a physical disability, there are so many times people will say, you can't do this, you can't do that. you won't be able to walk

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. shirley rein was gunned down in her cape cod garrage in 2009. one man was charged and acquitted and he suggests he know who is's behind the grime. >> she got a call from her lawyer. and word had trickled down through the state police that there had been a hit put on her. >> who put out that hit? friends say shirley was never told. >> she was afraid. when we came out of the movie, she never knew when she turned her car on the it was going to blow up. i don't know how she lived like that. >> i said, oh, cut it out. they're just pulling your leg.

they're just trying to scare you. little did i know. >> little did loretta know that according to john rams a plan to kill shirley was already being hatched. >> did todd ever tell you he wanted to kill shirley? >> he had a plan and everything. he wanted me to shoot shirley. go in her house and shoot her for him. >> john says he never agreed to do it, but todd was determined to make it happen with or without him. >> he said he wanted to make it look like a mob hit. >> did you warn authorities after talking to todd? >> yeah. absolutely i did. >> randy is here with us. that man that we just saw in the hat, john rams, he was charged? >> he was charged after a six-year investigation and then three years later he was acquitted. toond th

to this day, nobody else has ever been charged in the murder of shirley reine. >> did he proclaim overtly his innocence? >> oh yeah. he told us he had nothing to do with it. in fact he said he went to authorities and told them that somebody was going to hurt or kill shirley reine. authorities said they don't have any record of john rams coming to them and telling them us. even though he was acquitted in this, he has a long criminal history. he was convicted of manslaughter and convicted in the 2002 burglary of shirley reine's home three years before her death. >> he's back in jail now. >> he's back in jail now. he was convicted in the burglary and so was todd reine. >> he was never charged? >> he was never charged. the d.a. said they didn't have a lot of hard nervous this case from the murder seen. and even after john rams was acquitted, he said they didn't really have a strong case against him. that tells you possibly why todd

was never charged in the case. >> this is a story that i think has probably just kind of held people in cape cod -- they haven't known what's happened to this woman this whole time. >> this is a family that has been there for years, very well-connected. her husband was well known in the community for various reasons that you'll learn about tonight. i've heard from people there in cape cod who are wondering what happened to shirley reine. i guess they're looking forward to the hour tonight. >> they'll have their answers. hopefully some of the answers will come tonight in the cnn special reported, murder on cape cod, who shot shirley reine. 9:00 eastern right here on cnn. . police outside chicago are ramping up their manhunt. we'll have the latest right after the break.

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