next republican presidential debate airs in two weeks on cnn with vak tapper moderating and questions from conservative radio heat hugh huitt and donald trump is already accusing him of asking unfair gotcha questions, the difference between foreign leaders and difference between hezbollah and hamas.

trump was a guest on the virginia huieit show and he wanted to answer questions related to his role as the commander in chief and asked about the iran quds force and other military figures and the conversation went from this. >> on the front of islamist terrorism, i'm looking for the next commander in chief to know hasan nasrallah is and zawahri and aljulani and al baghdadi. do you know the players without a scorecard, donald trump? >> to tell you honestly, by the time we get to office they will all be changed and all gone. i knew you would ask me things like this because there's no reason, number one, i will hopefully find general douglas macarthur in the pack. i will find who is it is that i find but they are all changing. those are like history questions. do you know this one, do you know that one? >> i don't believe in gotcha questions. i'm not trying to quiz you on. >> that is a gotcha question, when you're asking me about who, you know, who is running this, this, this.

i will be so good at the military, your head will spin, but obviously i'm not meeting these people. i'm not seeing these people. now, it probably will be a lot of changes, hugh, as you go along. by the time we get there, still a pretty long period of time, you saw -- let's say you figure out nominations and who -- who is going to represent the republicans and let's say february, march, april, you'll start to get pretty good ideas, maybe sooner than that actually, but that will be a whole new group of people. i think what is really important is to pick out, and this is something i'm so good at, to pick out who is going to be the best person to represent us militarily, because we have some great people militarily. i don't know that we're using them. >> let me expand, it because it's not got charges i'm trying not to do that. >> well it sounds like gotcha. you're asking me names that -- that, you know, i think it's somewhat ridiculous but that's okay. go ahead. >> last question, i want to go

back to the beginning because i do disagree with you on the gotcha question. at the debate i may bring up with nasrallah being with hezbollah and al masri being with hamas, do you think if i ask people to talk about the three things and the differences that that's a gotcha question. >> yes, i do, totally do. >> that's interesting. i disagree. >> i think it's ridiculous. i'm a delegator, i find great people. i find absolutely great people and i'll find them in our armed services, and i find absolutely great people. now in the bigger picture, like the fact that our kurds -- the kurds are being treated so poorly and would -- would really is the one group that really would be out there fighting for us, i think and fighting for themselves maybe more importantly to them, i understand that, but when you start throwing around names of people and where they live and give me their address i think it's ridiculous and i think it's -- >> i wouldn't do that, that's crazy. it's an interview and debate. >> the names you just mentioned,

probably won't even be there in six months or a year. >> i don't know, nasrallah's got such staying power. >> let's see what happens, in that case, you know what, first day in office or before then, right -- the day after the election, i'll know more about it than you will ever know, that i can tell you. >> i hope so. last question, so the difference between hezbollah and hamas does not matter to you yet but it will? >> it will when it's appropriate. i will know more about it than you know, and believe me it won't take me long. >> all right. that i believe. >> right now i think it's just something that -- and you know what, if you ask these candidates, nobody is going to be able to give you an answer. there may be one that studied it because they are expecting a fresh question from you, but believe me it won't matter. i will know far more than you know within 241 hours after i get the job. >> joining me now, cnn senior political analyst and former presidential adviser david gergen of david, should a candidate at this stage know the difference between hezbollah and

hamas? >> i think you should know basically a lot about the middle east and the dynamics of the middle east, hezbollah being in lebanon an hamas being in gaza, for example. you do need to know that, but i must say traditionally, anderson, when reporters have asked candidates, you know, who is the head of this african government or that african government, what's the difference between tajikistan and pakistan, you know, those are regarded as gotcha questions. that's an old trick and those are gotcha questions. i think far more relevant at this point for a man who is leading the pack in the republican party works has never spent a day in public office is to come forward with thoughtful views and well thought out views on national security and where he would go, what is his strategy post the iran agreement? what strategy would he propose for the middle east and secondly, anderson, we need to know who is coming with him, not just who goes to the white house, who is coming with you, and we need to begin to see people around him as a republican looking for the jim baker, looking for the brent scowcroft. are people like that going to be

at his side? that's really critical for him. >> it's interesting though. i mean, you know, the most specific policy he's talked about probably, and -- and i think it's the most specific he's gone into, is dealing with isis. he's talked about bombing the hell out of them, surrounding the oil fields, taking the oil, using american troops to protect those oil fields while american companies go in and take the oil. if -- if, you know, the critics of that policy, a lot of military experts that we've had on the program, you know, general hertling who commanded u.s. troops from 2007 to 2009 in northern iraq has said, you know, that's just -- that's just not realistic, it's just not -- i mean, that's the kind of argument somebody would make, you know, just say the bomb the hell out of them. if that is your policy the fact that you don't seem to know a lot of the details, specific as they may be about who the players are in the region, it does sort of bolster the argument of his critics who say,

well, look, he's not really, you know, it's a very complex situation in the middle east and to -- to not -- i mean, i don't care necessarily about names of people, but to not kind of know the dine mix. he says there are no iraqis. there is no iraq. >> well, listen. it's absolutely true that it's esa roll of the dice for the country to elect somebody to the presidency who has never held public office in a day in his or her life and we have, you know, ben carson and donald trump now leading the republican field, and neither one of them has spent time in public life and they should be held up to scrutiny. we should expect certain standard but when you have a roll call as you've had of terrorist leaders in the middle east, i -- i doubt many foreign policy experts don't know all those names. i don't think -- i don't think that's the standard. >> right. >> i do think that's a gotcha. trying to reveal gaps in his knowledge, but what we want to

know is are you going to be surrounded by people who don't have these off-the-wall ideas that can bring you in and help you sort of see what reality -- what realistically is possible, what you can do, what your options are. that's when you want somebody who is going to have his finger very close to the button answering that phone call at 3:00 in the morning. you want somebody who is surrounded by good people and becomes more thoughtful than he's been so far. >> that's certainly the point that donald trump has made repeatedly, look, i may not know this stuff. i don't have the experience of having done this, but i'll hire really good people and i'm good at identifying people who -- who do know all this stuff. >> yeah. a turning point in george w. bush's campaign, for better or for worse, was when he assembled a whole group of foreign policy experts around him, brought them out and said these are going to be my people. presidential candidates traditionally do this with economists and economic leaders, people out of wall street. you need to know the quality of people who are going to be with you.

so far this trump thing has been a one-man show. >> right. >> and it's a dazzling show, but at some pain the showman's got to stand back and say where's the beef. >> right. >> and who are the people that are going to produce the beef. >> david gergen, appreciate it. >> up next, the little boy on the beach, this heartbreaking photo captures the crisis which is swamping right now, little boy from syria who was found dead and washed ashore. his family trying to make it to europe. arwa damon is on an overcrowded train carrying families just like that family of the boy on the beach, families fleeing from report. her reporting ahead. my name is phil zietlow, and i've been an engineer on the cheerios team for 51 years. about five years ago, i found out that if my daughter-in-law, joyce, eats anything with gluten in it she feels pretty darn terrible. so my team and i came up with a way to remove the grains that contain gluten, from the naturally gluten free oats that cheerios are made of. so now joyce and i can have cheerios together anytime we want.

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the images of one boy just 2 years old found dead on a turkish beach this week have shocked and haunted the word. you may want to turn away for just a moment and not see the video. however, if you keep watching you'll see the often deadly reality of the syrian refugee crisis. here are the images, a little boy named aylan, his lifeless body on beach after he, his

4-year-old brother and mother all drowned when their crowded boat hit rough seas. they were hoping to make it to greece from turkey after fleeing war-torn syria. they obviously never made it. a turkish police officer, you see, carrying away aylan's body. tonight we have a new picture of aylan standing with his big brother. this is how their family wants you to remember them. aylan's smile. only their father survived. he plans to return to syria to bury his family. he says everything he dreamed of is now gone. they tried to start over like millions of syrians and iraq eswho have fled often in overcrowded boats and once they arrive the tough journey on land begins. tonight arwa damon shows us what it's like in hungary on a train with many desperate refugees. arwa, you've been on the train for 15 hours. what's the latest? >> reporter: well, anderson, just take a look around us. it is well past midnight. people are sprawled out into every single corner they can possibly find to try to sleep in. they are up on the overhead

luggage compartment areas. they are all over the floors and the aisles, and the reason why people don't want to leave this train is because when they do leave they will get taken by the police who are waiting outside to the camps. they do not want to report to these camps in hungary because they have already been through a camp when they crossed along the serbian border into hungary. they say their treatment there was inhumane. they were meant to male as if they were animals. they also don't want to go into these camps in hungary because they believe that it will slow down or even hinder their process of applying for asylum, either in germany or in other western european nations but this, anderson, is what happens when governments fail to provide for those who are most in need and ends up leaving them in circumstances like this. >> and so what are european governments talking about doing at this point? >> well, here's the problem. everyone keeps falling back to the dublin agreement which basically was drafted back in

1988 and effectively says that in applying for asylum within the european union, you have to apply at your first point of entry which may have made sense when it was brought to -- to existence back then, but it cannot be applied for the current influx of refugees that europe has been seeing. these numbers have not taken place here since world war ii. and in trying to implement the dublin agreement governments are actually violating the geneva convention and violating a ref screw's basic right to safety sanctuary and effectively a dignified and respectable life. the problem is every single government keeps blaming the other and so everybody is at a loss, taking matters into their own hands and absolutely terrified of making a decision like one that is as simple as getting off a train because it could land them in a situation that is even worse than this one. >> so i just want to be clear. the train you're on, it's not going anywhere, it's just sitting there, right? >> it is. it left budapest about 11:00 a.m. local so 5:00 a.m. eastern.

people hoped that maybe it was going to germany and had a little bit of a chance that that could be what was happening. most of them thought that it was going along the austrian-hungarian border, and they just wanted to get out of budapest, but we're about 19 miles outside of the capital and it stopped about an hour into this trip t.stopped and it's just been sitting here. the police are outside. they have it completely blocked off. they are actually stopping other trains that are coming into the station and searching them for refugees and bringing those refugees off the train trying to get them to the camps causing quite a bit of commotion on this side of the tracks and in some instances we've seen those refugees brought off the other trains, sitting down, refusing to move and then eventually actually being brought on to this train, but, yes, this train has not moved in a very, very long time. obviously food and water are very problem matic. >> never seen numbers like this in quite some time.

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