enbrel, the number one rheumatologist-prescribed biologic. thanks for joining us for this extended version of "360. "go the we begin with the allegiance of donald trump who signed a loyalty promise and promised to not run as a third-party candidate. trump announced he signed the pledge after meeting privately with rnc chairman reince priebus and spoke at trump tower about the pledge and his opponents. take a look. >> the chairman just left, as you probably know, and he's been extremely fair. the rnc has been absolutely terrific over the last two-month period, and as you know that's what i've wanted. i've wanted fairness. i don't have to be treated any

differently than anybody else. i just wanted fairness from the republican pop. the absolute best way to win and to beat the democrats and very easily, i think, beat the democrats no matter who it may be, whether it's hillary or anybody else, and i think maybe hillary's going to have a very hard time frankly with what's happening getting to the starting gate, the best way forward for the republicans to win is if i win the nomination and go directly against whoever they happen to put up, and for that reason i have signed the pledge. >> yeah. [ applause ] so i will be totally pledging my allegiance to the republican party and the conservative principles for which it stand, and we will go out and we will

fight hard and we will win. look at hillary clinton, and i've said she's the worst secretary of state in the history of this country. now, everybody that's attacked me has gone down the tubes. you have lindsey graham attacked me. he was at 3% and now he's at 0. you have perry attacked me and now he's getting out of race. he was at 4%, 5%, and now he is getting out of the ration. rand paul attacked me and rand paul is down to less than 2% and he attacked me. jeb bush also just went down in the monmouth poll, very big. so i don't know. i mean, are they going -- he's going to spend lobbyists' money and special interest money. remember this. they have total control over jeb and hillary, and everybody else that takes that money. nobody knows the system better than me. those people that are putting up those millions of dollars have total control over your candidate. i will tell you this. nobody is putting up millions of

dollars for me. i'm putting up my own money. [ applause ] >> joining me now is senior political analyst and former presidential advisers david gergen and "washington post" reporter robert costa and cnn political reporter dana bash. dana, you were at press's press conference, news conference. how real is this pledge? >> well, it's as real -- >> there's wiggle room. >> there's wiggle room because it's not legally binding. it's as real as his candidacy for the republican nomination is right now. he said he is absolutely no plans to tear it up, but, you know, he also, if you asked him a few years ago if he had plans to run for president as a republican, no way, i'm pro-choice and i'm for universal health care so even those who are really close to trump, especially those who are close to trump, will say that you expect the unexpected with him. >> robert, i mean, seems like on one hand it's only fair to take donald trump at his word, as you should any candidate, on the other hand, this is politics and not only a lot of wiggle room

with the whole concept of being treated fairly by the gop, to use his word and a time in which a lot can change. >> we're very early in the race right now, anderson, and this is not a legally binding document. trump has room to make a different decision at a different point in the race. he's really trying to show solidarity with the party, win over those reluctant activists who have been questioning him and whether he would really -- whether he would have an alliance with the party, but at some point he could easily turn. >> david, it also gets out of the way in time for the same-sex cnn debate, so that it's not even really a question anymore as it was kicking off the fox news debate. the fact, david, that the rnc is now so clearly moved to keep trump inside the gop tent with his pledge, going forward if trump says something controversial, can the party distance itself and expect to keep his loyalty? >> oh, i think so. and anderson, i disagree with the notion that he could break this pledge. it's not legally binding, for

sure, but it's politically binding. you can't take a pledge like this in front of the whole country and then tear it up and throw it away. you'll destroy your campaign the instance you do that. people don't want to elect a president who is going to be jumping around from one thing to the next so he's going to respect this pledge unless there's an extraordinary circumstance which is justified. as to -- where the republicans are, this is a huge breakthrough for republicans. the republicans ought to be thanking reince priebus for negotiating this because they sort of bridled the horse now. had this wild stallion out there and finally got a pridele on him and he'll have to start playing more by the rules and being a little more conventional. one thing we know for sure tonight, anderson, trump is not in this for sure. he's in it to win now. >> and certainly he's way out -- he's out in front in the polls. >> dana, trump went offer rick perry today essentially saying he's getting out of the race. >> which is not true. >> rick perry came out and said that's not the case. rick perry said -- i mean, he

misquoted, he sort of used this old saying, and he said it wrong, he said a broken clock is right once a day technically, technically a broken clock would be correct twice a day and denies he's getting out of the race but he has been having trouble. trouble paying staff and polls. >> he's stopped paying staff. >> right. >> hand those who he asked to remain on as volunteers, many of them are jumping ship to other campaigns. one in new hampshire has gone to john kasich and in iowa to trump which really hits him hard because, you know, he's really considering donald trump his nemesis. so, yeah, i mean, look, donald trump takes credit for rick perry's demise. i certainly think that he helped but rick perry had a lot of trouble getting off the starting block from the get go because people remember what happened in 2012. he didn't have the greatest campaign, and there are so many people running in his lane in the republican field. one other quick thing that i want to say though, i have to

disagree with david because i think that in a conventional world, which we're all used to living in, it would be the end of donald trump's, you know, campaign if he did tear this up eventually, but this is not a conventional world. >> there's been a lot of things that people said this would be the end of donald trump's campaign. >> it's not necessarily to say i'm going to be president, i'm going to be a spoiler because something happened, fill in the blank, that made him angry at the republicans. >> i want to play something jeb bush said late today in new hampshire referencing trump. watch. >> i'm going to push back when he says things that are ugly, that i think will damage our brand and damage our ability to be successful and sure as hell when he attacks me personally or disparages my family, damn right i'm going to fight back. >> clearly bush thinks he has to push back harder or has to push back harder on trump. so far it's not working. looking at latest poll numbers, his numbers are going in reverse >> the push-trump battle is a defining battle in the republican race.

i spoke with danny diaz, bush's campaign manager and says bush's fall strategy is to go after trump and try to frame his as a liberal and in response trump has taken a pledge with the republican party and he's trying to find fire with donor and activists that want to see him as a warrior against trump. >> trump can basically out-fire anybody. he's got more -- i mean, and he also -- what's really interesting about a lot of his attacks, he attacks people on things that in past years or others consider their greatest strength, that jeb bush can speak spanish, that john mccain's war record, he goes after the things that seem to be unimpeachable, and yet he makes them. >> i -- i agree, anderson. one of the most interesting things about this race is we've all underestimated how sort of smart politically trump really is. i think he's been very shrewd. he's outthought the opposition

most of the way along the way here, and he has found those -- you know, there are certain people. lyndon johnson could do that as president. he two where somebody's vulnerability was and could go after them and grab them. a good negotiator can often do that and trump has spent a lot of time negotiating, as you know. but this whole thing he's used against jeb bush about low energy, that -- that stuck to bush, and it's -- and i think one of the reasons he's fighting back is he's under a lot of pressure from his own supporters you've got to fight back. you've got to turn this into a two-man race, got to be jeb versus trump, and you can win that. carson throws a monkey wrench into that calculation, doesn't he? >> yeah. well, dana, even jeb bush in that bite saying, you know, damn right i'm going to fight back. you think how would donald trump say that, and he's still -- trump will probably say he's still low energy? >> oh, absolutely because trump will probably say that's jeb bush trying to prove donald trump wrong and you know what, trump is right about that, that -- the whole point of what

jeb bush has been trying to do since monday, all week long, is not only go after donald trump as not a conservative, a democrat in disguise, but show that he -- it's not about donald trump, it's about him. he's got fight in him. he's got a pc bone. he can really, you know, sort of take off the gloves and do what he need to do. that's what, as bob was saying, that's what his donors want. that's what his supporters want is and so it's sort of a -- a double whammy for him. he can show that and also beat back against trump. >> david, robert, stick around. we'll have more with them coming up. with ben carson jumping 13 points we'll take a look at the support he's quietly gathering and the controversial issues he's spoken about may not be as loud as trump but his rhetoric can be, well, you'll see ahead. coming up next, also a county clerk in kentucky apparently would rather go to jail than issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. the latest ahead. my name is phil zietlow, and i've been an engineer on the cheerios team

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ben carson has quietly been gaining support in his bid for the republican nomination jumping 13 points in recent polling and trailing trump by 12 percentage point and while trump has made a name being very vocal and polarizing carson has taken a different approach. made sometimes on controversial topics but in a much softer voice. tom foreman has more. >> reporter: ben carson often

appears as the quiet candidate, standing on his medical not political experience. >> i'm the only one to separate siamese twins. the only -- >> reporter: but carson, who has never held an elected office, has risen to prominence as a soft-soaken fire brand of conservatism, once defining marriage as between a man and a woman. >> and no group, be they gays, be they nambla, be they people who believe in bestiality, it doesn't matter what they are, they don't get to change the definition. >> reporter: attacking ate fordable care act. >> obamacare is really i think the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery. demeaning democrats who support the president. >> think about nazi germany. most of those people did not believe in what hitler was doing, but did they speak up?

>> reporter: carson has occasionally apologized for his words but not his beliefs which are energizing republicans. his rallies are huge, his poll numbers surging, and gop voters find him extremely likable. >> he seems like the only sensible person and yet he is kind and compassionate. he's not screaming and yelling. >> reporter: but carson can hit hard. for example, suggesting the late founder of planned parenthood wanted more birth control to limit the black population. >> she was not particularly enamored with black people. >> reporter: carson routinely replies personally to his followers on facebook explaining his plans for better policing, a radical rebuilding of veterans care and a flat income tax modelled after biblical tithing. if god think it is fair, then it is good enough for me. that talk has kindled such passion among his followers that even though carson largely relies on small donors, his war

chest is growing, enough to win? who knows, but frankly many political analysts did not think he could raise enough money to make it this far. tom foreman, cnn, washington. >> well, joining me again, cnn political analyst and former presidential adviser david engineering-in and "washington post" national political reporter robert costa and cnn chief political correspondent dana bash. it's interesting, ben carson is such an interesting candidate, a soft spoken guy and clearly very conservative, conservative beliefs and the combination seems to be working for him. >> it does, you know, sort of helps answer the question about donald trump, right? you wonder is it just that donald trump is an outsider, is it that he tells it like it is and he's not politically correct and he's bombastic? well, the answer is for the most part it's the outsider. there's a new poll said. 67% of republican voters say that they want somebody with no experience washington. that's what it is, so he's in

some ways very much like donald trump in that he can play the outsidey and he's the anti-trump, soft spoken and even trump says he's so nice. doesn't even attack him because he's so nice. >> as much as people say donald trump and ben carson are anti-establishment candidates they are extremely different in the tone and delivery. obviously there's a common thread, something that's appealing to large numbers of voters. >> there is a common thread, but not when it comes to temperament. when i've been in iowa and seen these voters respond to carson, it's because they don't like trump's temperament, they are looking for someone with a cadence, a lot of people are evangelical christians and see carson as someone with a preacher-like quality, comes from the private sector, a political outsider. it's resonating with a different kind of coalition than trump's but certainly similar in its ideology. >> david, i mean, does ben carson have the infrastructure? does he have the capabilities of making it through this marathon? >> that's a really good

question. he does not now, anderson. you know, he's hitting iowa hard and doing very well there. i've known ben carson for about a dozen years. we served on a university board together, and i can tell you i've watched him inspire audience after audience, mostly with his life story. a man who came up from poverty and became a pediatric neurosurgeon separating siamese twins in their heads, just a remarkable story and told all his life you can't do this. you can't go to college. you're not good enough. you're not good enough to go to medical school, and he -- he defied all those experts and he comes into this race as a man who has face the enormous odds all his life and yet has succeeded. i think that gives him a lot of inner confidence, and he communicates that he's emotionally at peace with himself. some of his views i would argue have become a little bizarre, but the person ben carson is a very attractive individual. >> dana, donald trump has had the opportunity to go after ben carson. he has not, and he doesn't show

any sign really of planning to do that. >> unless ben carson goes after him. >> which by nature doesn't seem like ben carson. >> doesn't seem like it's going to happen or another potential scenario is that ben carson surpasses donald trump in polls across also the board. in this new poll we were talking about donald trump beats all his republican contenders except ben carson. if that continues, it's hard to see donald trump who is so incredibly competitive not going after carson. >> and i guess the question is then how would he go after carson? there's a variety of ways i guess to do it in terms of the bombasticness of it. >> exactly. >> if that's the correct word. robert, in terms of carson's campaign infrastructure, i asked david about it, do you think he can compete for long haul at this point? >> at this point it's unclear. earlier in the year carson moved many people from his campaign to his super pac. his infrastructure at the moment is pretty slim.

it's a shoestring campaign in terms of its operation. it has hey lot of grass roots spot, volunteers in these early states. what carson has to do perhaps is if he does get momentum eventually build out that infrastructure, but for now he's running on media attention and grass roots fervor. >> robert, it's good to have you on, robert costa and david gergen as well and dana bash as well. >> thank you. >> coming up next tonight, investigators in illinois say they may have significant new evidence of the killing of a popular police lieutenant. the latest just ahead. when a moment spontaneously turns romantic, why pause to take a pill? and why stop what you're doing to find a bathroom? cialis for daily use, is the only daily tablet approved to treat erectile dysfunction so you can be ready anytime the moment is right.

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in northern illinois investigators say a video from a home security system may contain what they say is significant evidence in the killing of a popular police lieutenant. >> we have retrieved as late as last night what we believe to be some significant video. that's opinion turned over to the department of homeland security for processing and i'm expecting results from that video as late as this evening. >> we'll bring you any details about that video as soon as we get them. today a source told cnn that a slain officer's fun was recovered at the crime scene and it had been fired the morning he was killed.

it's not clear who fired it. the murder obviously has shaken the community fox lake and sparked a manhunt as challenging as they come. ryan young reports. >> reporter: days after the murder of police officer lieutenant joe gliniewicz few clues have emerged in an intense statewide manhunt. this here in fox lake is a mix between commercial and industrial businesses, and this may have been the last road that officer gliniewicz drove down it a fateful morning. so you can see the gravel road and the barricade left behind by police, but we don't have the details about why the officer got out of his car and approached the three men. he did give a description, two white men and one black man. but what happened next and where did the men take off to? there are plenty of questions surrounding those few minutes in between the time officer gliniewicz radioed to dispatch and the arrival of backup and then this. >> assist, officer down. subjects are male white and male

black last seen running towards the swamp. >> reporter: officers responding tried to quickly set up a perimeter. >> the officer told us and came to the door again and said look all your doors because we think they are in the woods. >> reporter: and part of what made this search so very difficult is just half a mile away from where the shooting happened you can see all the woods here. in fact, policemen a lot of times conconcentrating on this area trying to make sure someone wasn't trying to slip out using the wood line and very close. residential areas just like this one that had people on inside and very worried for their safety. >> we love this area. we like being in the private area back here and they have something like this happen. i mean, it's literally right across there that it happened and -- and, you know, it is, it's scary. >> reporter: by air you can see what officers were dealing with. you can see what's known as a chain of lakes that's wrapped this community, marsh land and inlets that bleed into other waterways with homes covered by dense tree lines and also many homes here are not occupied

during the week. law enforcement looking for three suspects dealing with wood line and marsh land and then this, the idea that the suspects could run up to the train tracks and take off down this path and try to get away. >> ryan young joins us from fox lake. what's the situation there now? is there still an active search going on at this hour? >> reporter: there is an active search but it's just different, it's transformed. in fact, you don't really see it in terms of the concentration of people. we do know there's 100 investigators working on this. in fact, two investigators just dealing with the tip line when people call in. >> ryan, appreciate the reporting. joining me now is cnn law enforcement analyst and retired police detective harry houwke and also a former secret service agent. harry, as the day goes on and there aren't new developments, though there is this home security system which may have some sort of a video that's useful to law enforcement, how much more difficult does it become to find these suspects as

the days pass? >> well, you know, believe it or not, anderson, there's still aamoa lot more detectives can do to try to identify these guys. we have the video. hopefully the two whites and black men on the video are perpetrators. they most likely are because the chances are those -- the second thing is that this weapon that was recovered, the officer's weapon that was recovered, all right, was touched by the perpetrators, meaning what? can we get a print off the gun? on tv that happens a lot, but in real life it doesn't happen that often, but we might get dna. is there sweat, is there blood? all right. that's very important. also, the bullet that was taken from the officer. now, did that bullet come from the officer's gun or one of the perpetrator's gun? if it came from a perpetrator's gun we can put that bullet through ibis, the integrated ballistic identification system by the atf, and see if that weapon was used in another crime earlier, and that information was put into that ibis system. that would be another lead for

law enforcement. >> dan, are you surprised that investigators still don't have more information about who these suspects are or even really what they look like? >> yeah, i am a bit surprised, and i'm wondering if they are not intentionally holding back some of that information from the media for the purposes of not giving away, you know, some of their information. they are holding their cards close to the chest. it's certainly possible, but anderson, as time goes on here. time is law enforcement's enemy in this case. you know, the secret service vashltd w variability was our friend. we did motorcade routes and did the deadly diamond when we got to the arrival site there was a lot of variability. no one knew where we would go. variability is the enemy in a dragnet-type search like this because as time goes on the potential options for these perpetrators to take whether the lake, marsh, hiding out in a residence, those options create variability and options, and there's no possible way to swamp the area with enough manpower

over an extended period of time to cut off those options from those guys. >> harry, if you're searching for suspects, do you -- i mean, if there's three people together, does that actually make it somewhat easier, to dan's point about variables, there's more variables, could be dissension among the group. with thee people you have more chance that somebody will reach out to somebody and maybe that person will drop a dime on them. having more suspects who are together, is that helpful? >> well, it would be a lot easier if all three of them stayed together because, you know, two white males and a black male. should be easily discernible by people to call in and give police officers tips no matter who they are. the fact is if they split up it will get a lot harder for law enforcement. it tends to be -- you know, they don't split up as often because they like to stay together. they want to be in trouble together, and they feel like they are alone and they split up, it will be more easier in their minds that they are going

to be captured, so they need that support system of the other two. >> harry and dan, appreciate you being on. let's hope they find these suspects. quickly just ahead, major development in a standoff that's captured the national spotlight, a kentucky county learning is in jail after refusing for months to issue same-sex marriage licenses saying she's following god's law. diabetes, steady is exciting. only glucerna has carbsteady, clinically proven to help minimize blood sugar spikes. so you stay steady ahead.

rise, in kentucky a county clerk is behind bars tonight held in contempt by a judge. kim davis is her name. she says her religious beliefs prevent her from issuing same-sex marriage licenses. in her eyes god's law trumps the supreme court and has refused to issue any marriage license to gay or straight couples since the supreme court ruling for same-sex marriage and today that led her to court where she dug in her heels. >> reporter: in one kentucky county same-sex couples being denied marriage licenses. >> why are you not issuing marriage licenses today? >> because i'm not. >> under whose authority. >> whose authority in. >> under god's authority. >> reporter: tonight the clerk who is refusing to issue those licenses ordered to jail because

of it. a federal court judge holding her in contempt of court, a decision met by wild cheers from marriage equality advocates. the same ruling igniting equal passions from those who back the row and county clerk. >> i support kim davis. i think you're going to see god's people rise up like they never have before, and i think her going to jail, i think they just woke up a great sleeping giant. >> reporter: kim davis was tearful on the stand, testifying that her religious beliefs and her conscience make her unable to follow an august 12th order from the same court to issue the licenses in accordance with the supreme court's historic marriage equality ruling earlier this summer. davis is aurntly appealing the order to issue the licenses in a higher court. in an earlier statement davis, who has been divorced three times, said to me this has never been a gay or lesbian issue. it's about marriage and god's word. it's about a matter of religious

liberty which is protected under the first amendment. while considering whether to charge davis with contempt, the court rejected the argument that she was factually unable or physically unable to comply with the court's order to issue the licenses. judge david bunning saying our system of justice requires citizens and elected officials to follow the orders of the court. earlier this week the supreme court at the united states denied a petition from davis tone able her to refuse to issue licenses while the appeals process continues. despite that, her office continued to refuse to license couples. april miller testified she's been barred three times by davis from receiving a license to marry her partner of 11 years before the judge order davis taken into custody by the u.s. marshals. >> we did not ask the court to imprison miss davis. that with a not the sanction we sought, and i think it was unfortunate that she is there, but the judge did what he felt was necessary in order to gain

compliance. >> reporter: five of davis' six deputy clerks all called into the courtroom and told the judge they would comply with the order to issue the licenses, but davis' attorney couldn't promise she wouldn't interfere with the process meaning she chooses to stay behind bars. >> four and a half years ago her life was changed and her sins were foregiven and that's one of the reasons, the reason why her conscience is so strong. she loves her lord and loves god and can't disobey her conscience or be disobedient, and that really is what makes kim davis tick. >> reporter: alexandra field, cnn, ashland, kentucky. >> just be clear, kim davis is an elected official. today the judge pointed out that she took a oath when she became a county clerk and joining me now is jonathan turley, law professor at george washington university. thanks for being with us. she's claiming it's her first amendment right to refuse the licenses. is it? >> i'm afraid it's not and that's a closed question. the supreme court in 2006 handed down a case card garcetti which

dealt with this very issue of the first amendment rights of public employees but even before garcetti there was no basis for a public official to say that she could impose her religious views on whether she would carry out her duties with regard to citizens. citizens don't have to wonder is this person who has to give me a license or a permit going to approve of me for religious reasons? that's just not something that our system of law tolerates. >> right. in this garcetti ruling, the supreme court said, and i quote, let me make sure that i get it right, when a citizen enters government service, the citizen by necessity must accept certain limitations on his or her freedom. >> that's right, and, you know, we -- there's always in history these noble acts of defiance. it is a noble act to stand for your beliefs, but that nobility is lost when you're insisting that you can impose your beliefs on others, and to use a public

office to do that. and we saw that in -- in the civil rights movement. you had a noble act of defiance with martin luther king in places like selma refusing as a citizen to yield to abuse of governmental authority, and then you had george wallace in alabama defying federal law to try to keep individuals from being treated equally. they are both acts of defiance and both acts based on personal beliefs, but what wallace did was wrong, and that's why he was vilified. >> it would have been interesting, i mean, in one of the several times that this woman has been divorced and remarried a county clerk had said to her i don't believe in giving a marriage license to somebody who has been divorced. >> reporte >> i think the point is a fair one that people supporting miss davis have to wonder about the next case. what happens if the clerk also follows the word of god but not your god. what if the god's name is allah? what if the god's name is yawi?

will you feel the same then or is it only if the clerk agrees with your view in i have a piece in the "washington post" coming out that talks about this, that people of religious faith are concerned that they are going to be targeted with these new rules, that their free speech will be taken away. what miss davis is suggesting is the very threat that they fear, that a government official could look at them and say i'm not going to help you because i don't agree with who you are. >> right, and to your point, it could be a government official who is muslim and would the same people who are arguing now in support of this woman be arguing in support of a muslim employee to -- to come up with some reason not to issue a license or whatever it may be? >> that's right. when we talk about free exercise of religion, the most important thing to protect religion in our country is for the government to be neutral. if the government isn't neutral, if county clerks can say i'm going to perform this

ministerial act, but before i do that i'm going to make sure that i agree with what you are or what you're asking to be done, you don't have to go from office to office to find a county clerk that doesn't have personal opposition, moral opposition to who you are. if you otherwise qualify under the law. >> there's also a great tradition in this country of resigning when you don't believe you can carry out your duties appropriately. i mean, it used to be in the past a lot of people seem to do that and they would make a stand and simply resign, though they can to it publicly or issue, you know, a statement. she can't actually be fired and clearly she's not willing to resign and not willing to let other people in the office issue these marriage license. >> yeah, it's actually a very curious problem under this state law because the state law says that the county clerk's signature is at the bottom of these licenses and if she's not signing, there is a question about the status of these marriages. she is also elected which means

she would have to be impeached which means she would have to go before the legislature which isn't meeting right now and even if they were meeting i'm not sure politically a lot of those people would impeach her. >> not supposed to meet until january, is my understanding. >> professor turley, a fascinating discussion. up next taking the air out of deflategate, at least for now. a judge tosses tom brady's four-game suspension. the nfl isn't taking it -- well, isn't taking a knee, isn't calling it quits. rachel nichols explains what's left in the nfl's playbook and why this saga just won't end.

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one week from tonight. the judge issued a 0-page opinion calling the nfl's actions, quote, fundamentally unfair. cnn's sports anchor rachel nichols joins me. patriots fans are viewing this as a total exoneration for tom brady. is it? >> not exactly. look, this was not about did tom brady deflate football or not deflate football? the judge didn't rule on that. instead he was ruling on did roger goodell and the nfl follow the correct process in trying to investigate and punish tom brady, and the judge came back and said in no uncertain terms, anderson, that goodell abused his power in this situation. he pointed to a bunch of reasons, withholding witnesses from the appeal, in effect changing the goal line to use a football analogy on brady by saying charges escalated without any new evidence and the biggest thing was there's other players possibly involved in ball-handling type of schemes before, as the nfl puts it and got no punishment. >> and for goodell, i mean, this is kind of yet another blow to the way he's handled punishment.

>> look, these are five court cases in a row now that the nfl has lost. if this was a coach that had an 0-5 record we would be sitting here talk pentagon is he on the hot seat. the thing about roger goodell, as embarrassing as this is for the league, millions of football fans upset today, only 32 people that matter, the 32 owners. robert kraft, the patriots owner, not happy with him obviously, but the other 31 owners, many of them have come out in support of roger goodell, so while he is not exactly bursting with authority at the moment his job is not in trouble. >> is this done? >> no, it's not done. the nfl has filed an appeal of this judgment so this could take anywhere from six months to another two or three years. what's interesting though is tom brady is going to play this whole time. so you have this great scenario coming up next thursday, the nfl season opener, big pageantry. originally until today tom brady was not going to be allowed in the building. the super bowl champions were going to raise their banner without their star quarterback

allowed to even be on premises. now guess what, anderson? it's roger goodell who won't be in the building. >> is that right. >> tom brady will be on the field celebrating and roger goodell has come out in a statement and said he won't be at the game because he doesn't want to distract from the ceremony. i have to think it has something to do with the patriots fans who might be vocal to him in that moment. but it is a huge swing of events. tom brady now going to be there. roger goodell not. >> rachel nichols, thanks. >> as we mentioned tom brady and the patriots take the field in a week and rachel's pro-football special airs this sunday at 3:30 p.m. eastern. guests including peyton manning and seattle seahawks coach peter carroll. up next, something that donald trump has to say about kanye west.

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>> you know what, i'll never say bad about him. he goes around saying trump is my all-time hero. so kanye west, i love him. so maybe in a few years i'll have to run against him so i'll take that back. but you know what, he's been so nice to me. >> you couldn't say it's just further proof of how hip-hop has influenced -- have i said hip-hop? did i just say that? hip hop. hip-hop. >> culture in general in the united states. and, dionne, i've been on for two minutes, all right. in just a few minutes, cnn presents how hip hop made its mark in the global fashioning. take a look. >> everything comes down to class. the class confers is bigger than the race confers. it's, like, i'm high class. that's what those brands are.

louis, gucci. all of that. that's wild they're very skeptical about working with musicians or rappers. we're considered to be lower class than designers. >> the organized industry of fashion in america that i could speak to, it suffers from identity. it has the parody in europe. it has the self loathing atmosphere where we're never as good as american designers as the french or the europeans. why are we waiting for external approval. all the ones i talk to, they love us.

all the integral people, and the people they love. >> a lot of people say they lobby you and come to your show for many years. these kids, i mean, they're really -- they're all cut up. >> joining me now is cultural critic and writer. what was once considered urban fashion, the bronx has really become global and be embraced by fashion houses around the world. >> it's youth culture. it's youth fashion. very kind of singular, radical, black, underground style there's

certain things that hip hop has made iconic. i was the founding fashion director at five. so thehearted of this film is we were right there. >> in the '90s. >> well, that was the height. it was from the '70s. hip hop culture, unlike rock culture has defined an economy, a style, a language dance, music, art. style is really the fifth pillar of hip hop. so this film reelly lets you e

see -- this is the most powerful fashion movement. >> i was talking about grand master flash when i was in high school. >> just redeem that hip hop. >> thank you so much. the cnn film fest starts now. >> announcer: cnn films presented by volkswagen. is it a time for german engineering?

♪ ♪ let me love you ♪ let me hold you. >> are you ready? well, let me tell you something. let me ask you something, what's your name. >> dino. >> where are you from? >> money-making manhattan: >> where are you from? money-making manhattan. >> tell me something about your fashion. what are your shoes? >> these are a pair of adidas with fat laces. that's the way we sport them. >> what about your fashion? whabt your look? how do you sdrieb them? >> i call them kango looks. >> how do you rock your hat, man. >> i sport it fresh, holmes. >> word. word. ♪ party people ♪ party people

♪ get young, get funky ♪ it's gonna get f nurunky ♪ >> being fresh was important when i was growing up. >> fashion is a whole other thing. when you're young, there's, like, a sense of wanting to express yourself. an importance in individuality. it's a free format. >> it had a boldness to it. you wanted everybody to know

that you was down with this movement. fresh to death like a million bucks. >> come on, we were big dreamers. hip hop was based on that dream of coming up and getting it big. the light at the end of the tunnel was always the pot of gold, the clothes, the fashion. >> someone said to me your clothes are your wings. if you want to fly, you're going to fly mplt and by doing that, with the style street guys have, once we put it on, it's a whole different story. you know what i'm saying. we put on the clothes and we take it to the next level.

>> the animal kingdom is a parallel crazy. peacocks, the way they flare up to atract their mate. it's all about the flare-up and what you look like. and look like the outfits they're wearing. wardrobe has always been a thing. >> particularly throughout the 20th century, style, fashion,

clothes were always a very prominent part of people's iet. it allows one to sert of represent, define their own presentation to the world, so to speak. even for people who didn't have money. and i think, over time, if you play about the role religion has had in african american culture. the stimpbt to sdwresz up. it was expected that one would be dressed a certain cay. that you would look your best. ♪ i want jesus to walk with me >> the term sunday best came fwr the time in order for slave

owners to be good christians, had to make sure that they had good slaves sochlt that they could have at least one goods out dm fit so at least we're clo close. >> certainly, you did put your best on when you went to church on sunday morning. >> the gospel choir was always the thing to watch. >> if you talk about african american culture there's always a unique clothing style.

>> in terms of how urban and hip hop have fused together. i think one has to look back and substantial doubt with someone like little richard. >> oh, baby. >> lit m richard was astouchbding to me. little richie was and still is an isle concernic symbol of freedom. music can make you feel free and watching the performer. he can make you feel free and give you a sense of your freedom.

considering all that african americans experienced, the sense that if you look good, you feel good is something that speaks to why fashion and style has been so significant over the course of time. this is the bron k3rks, new york. it's also become the ♪

>> the street is where everything happened. the '70s on south bronx, everything was burning. i was in a particular room but the fwilding held over 50 pavrmtings. we had no heat. no hot water. they were killings, police brutality is kwha it is now. >> whatever we do, whatever colors we've got, whatever, we throw them on the poll. it was extremely important on

how you dressed. you must, at all times, have black jeans. and motorcycle jackets. >> the part of customizing hip hop got that from the so-called gangs or street families. i actually cut each of these letters out myself, put it on. these are the top and bottom rockers.

>> the patches, you saw them on yourself. this all began with that movie, "easy rider". >> wow, there it is. >> okay. yes, this is a warrior painting. if you're going to top this, we're going to stop back.

when the bronx was burning, they were ebb r mbling. he hit him with a bad and they just continue ds to hit imuntil they killed hinl. he was beaten to death when he had to intervene between two other gangs. you took away one of our brother's lives, man. the thing is we're knot a gang nimg.

they made a truce. instead of the wars we used to have, sclubs to club, tvt at battle toe you. i'm to spt. ♪ all of these crews have to put the name of the crew on a sweat shird. now, they were more refined. they were clean.

it's just that. a music that question eve never heard before. a music that drooibs us. driens our strug 8. you couldn't help having to come forward for the lack of a wars. >> i think the clors in hip hop came from graffiti. you did your own thing, you know. jean jackets were the first. hey terry stop! they have a special!

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i was in awe. i lost my mind the first time i went to the theater to hear these rappers and these battles between busy b and humod. you had to use your imagination or whoever got to take the telling of how it was. >> i remember back in the park,

he had thouem back there just jamming to me. he didn't know i was getting that big. even back then, it was all about fashion. it was outrageous at that time. so he had a pass to wear all of those crazy jackets and cowboy boots. >> back in the day, you would seat that those cats get all suited up. i mean, armani suits. gators and mink coats dripping to the floor. however, though, because of hip hop being a new form of music and something that they okayed it, basically, efb was accustomed to wearing suits on stage.

so keeping it straight b-boy. >> the majority of hip art is with you're gazelles. it was all part of the hip hop fashion. hip hop fashion was kind of derived through the music. ♪

>> i remember in terms of making a staemt and just really influpsing me, i remember seeing the cat on this stage. with their hat, their tote books. i just remember that change in my life. everything that i've been taught was a farce from me to that point. >> when we went on stage, we were, like, wow, that's what the coach uses for me. >> in new york, so many peek are walking bam to see ooempb other every day chlts all the streets were like runways.

>> there was always all sorts of different flavors. is there wasn't one definitive sort of style. that wiz a brooklyn quality. he didn't have to say anything. a guy from harlem, let's say he had on a sweat suit. whatever brand it was from, he would have the sneaker to match. same with the bronx. the bronx was a mix of par lichlt and barrage brin

. >> money. might have had 50 cent between us. >> if you go home and ten people living in an apartment. the obama way that you can show is what you have on your body. as a young man, if you ooech got fresh, crispy clothes, they

believe you're getting muffin. >> right now,we're standing on the iconic delancey street: >> it's interpreted around the wormd as being fly. for many, they see it as a strong style. pride and integrity. they would take you if it tnt

have it stares on it. >> you couldn't get a discount anywhere? anywhere, and he wanted down on the low other east side. >> the wurn thing they could show-off. they mare not have 45d the bisz cash 24r ice vmpb pornd tell emg.

y know, jean jackets were the first canvas for hip hop. >> what was really, really popular was doing names on the ied of your jeans thachlt's what i was doing a lot of: ♪

you know, i remember coming across a black beat magazine with an l.l. cool jay on the cover. ed in. >> this is the thirt. >> sdsh the shirt need need row fill. it took what we were doing all around the world. it made the world notice who we are were.

>> this became our reality, you know. >> when times are bad, a lot of people tend to gravitate to wards art. art takes your mind to another place. it allowed me to not become something else. >> wlafr we were thinking in oir imaginations, we cut it here. you know, the l.v. was on your baseball cam, but the pouch snashed before your nekz dilt.

>> yeah, let me tell them a story: 30 years ago. 30 years ago, this whole bouk was forward. j dock see this mab. vrj the object to the form

wee f igs make it in this business, when you've got raw goods. if i have a role of fabric, that's anything that i want it to be. anything that designer didn't have i ole embellish it nor them. >> back in the day, tchsz about high-echbd brand. if i wasn't the hoo i eempbd.

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mark,. i thought eesh. >> they would go like this. yo. what size do you wear? and if you were live, you would say your size, why? yeah, your size? why do you want to know? if ump live. if you was a chump and a sucker, you probably be quiet and probably get punched in the face

and get faked. >> they would make you for your shoes and it wasn't a pretty sight. >> i actually did get groped pit pitchives just leaving the jooum ri hus. n e. i can go get the shoe man. it was always there for ming.

>> >> the way the whom fat lace started was we used to take lace that is came with the shoe. stretched the [bleep] out of them,starched them, with stavrm and ierp and then the way you raced them in your shoes there's a whole different sourt of siechs, you know. when they lace their laces, they go the other way. under, aund up. for us, we dwoo up and 234u6r beryl. . i kwould say this is about a thousand dollars.

in the late. >> in the late '80s, designer labels like polo or something like that and wearing it in a particular way. >> we saw those things like new balance, members only. if it wasn't making the hood rocking, man, it's because he saw them rocking. and then maepd it his own style embroiderd in the hood, too. and then other folks emulated that. for us, that's kind of like a natural thing. i remember at the taste of chicago, we had all over print folo.

and a lazarith chain. i wasn't in a suburb in high school anymore. >> when i was in high school and i went to brown and i had it, the first thing i would do is go to -- i would take my excitement buddy and go to the movie tong. or guck irkts. sq urban or young people are atracted to fashion. it's so important.

>> i seems like it's somewhere far away and we would like to go. and those people could care less about you. ♪ ♪ >> the two separate boost and crews or getting fly cruise, you know, that came together and created a big brotherhood. a booster and steels.

>> we were robbed and steal iin and all. even each other. a lot of people rob your whole house for everything you had. >> as soon as the train doors open, everybody rushing into the store, racing to get the stuff. people running into the street, carrying on these clothes, some clothes getting dropped. >> i knew about it, but i didn't know until what extent.

>> we were really astrakted to those things. they didn't sell it in know ghetto. you had to go to the high-end stores on fifth avenue. if you went in, you was, like, you're rich. we're living in the projects, man. >> thank you, ralph. thank you.

thank you for that cream polo sweatshirt. >> we were, like, free promotions for him. >> tommy hillfigger would show up in the hood. they didn't offer official deals. >> being a promotion, walking around in ra club, we were

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♪ ♪ >> with the explosion of hip hop music in the 1990s, hip hop

begins moving into mainstream which means music television. we've had ralph mcdaniels well before mtv documenting well before mtv. that's when we started seeing it. and then we had con srts. we had television shows like "the fresh prince of bel-air. now we're seeing brands that we can relate to. there was a number of things that catapulted. nobody cared about that. what did that do?

>> the first time we started seeing that urban really had some dollars behind there was through cross couples. here was a brand that was actually started in california. by a black fashion executive who actually came out of the surf business. he had come to new york all ooft time. he was seeing how young men were wearing their clothes. >> i was doing business with a store called merrygoround enterprises. i start taed talking to the customers as what they were made of. it was mainly referred to as an urban customer. but, for me, it was the african american customer.

i rode the subways in new york. at the time, i felt rap was coming from new york. my medium was a rarj. large. my 32 was a 36 silhouette with a 32 waist for a bottom. >> i designed from the ghetto,

for the ghetto, for the street. those are all of my thoughts. ♪ now, this is a story all about how ♪ ♪ my life got flipped, turned upside down ♪ i hired a marketing guy and i said hey, why don't you call up, you know, the fresh prince of bel-air. and, you know, see if they're interested in wearing our clothes. i'll never forget. he came back and said carl, they love your stof. >> two or three nights later, there he was.

bla blank. >> later, whatives told was silhouettes aren't working anymore. so i think the industry began to change their status where, you know, everybody else started doing larger sizes. >> 92, it was really 90s when bag of jeans started. but 92 is when you know for sure it had impacked. everyone's pants were big. i was about a freshman in college or so.

the idea of offering clothe that is made you proud of your ethnicity. >> no one really caterered to the women when it came to trying to us. it was a male's game. made me want to wring out more of the women in me.

cross colors went from a series of 0 to$0 to a hundred million. tony sheldon who ended up going on from mega to paris nation. and i can go on and on and on. a friend of mines found a manufacturing guest. so they flew me out here. we stood outside the factory until the workers got off from work.

and we didn't really know so we jumped out we kept saying it's a bunch of people: they put us up on the denim spots. we took the customer and brought it to california. at that point, we had a choice to stay out here or go back to new york. >> i came to his office. within the first 15 minutes, i

heard about your stuff. two weeks later, we had a deal. and he invited me to become parter ins with him and go into business. >> he was very selective in who he gave his cloets to. >> back then, that was like the coolest thick. and it just made the sdreem accessible.