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follow us on twitter. tweet the show @cnnsitroom. join us monday. thanks for watching. i'm brianna keilar. erin burnett "outfront" with pamela brown starts right now. "outfront" next, trump stumbles. donald trump lashing out at a radio host calling him third rate after he fails to identify top terror leaders. could this be trump's achilles heel? the clerk who refused to grant same-sex marriage licenses, tonight she's behind bars and vowing to stay there as long as it takes. investigators pouring over mu multiple videos from the shooting of an illinois police officer. are they closer to naming the suspe suspects? let's go "outfront." good evening to you. i'm pamela brown in for erin
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burnett. "outfront" tonight, donald trump stumped. the republican frontrunner unable to answer key foreign policy questions. accusing the questioner of trying to play gotcha. see what happened when trump was asked to identify some top terror leaders. >> as far as the individual players, of course i don't know them. i haven't been in a position to meet them. if they're still there, i will know them better than i know you. >> tonight, trump is firing back at the host of that program, hugh hewitt calling him a third-rate announcer. some of his opponents are seizing on this saying it's an example of why trump's not fit to be commander in chief. dana bash is "outfront" tonight with more. dana, the big question, will this make any difference with trump supporters? >> reporter: with the spoet supporters, it's unlikely. it's those on fence that matters. that's the vast majority of the
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republican electoral at in stage. his gop opponents, they are trying to seize on it. take a listen. when you are the frontrunner expect tough questions. a conservative radio host wanted to know if donald trump is ready to be xhcommander in chief. >> do you know the players without a score card? >> you know, i will tell you honestly, i think by the time we get to office, they will be changed. they will be gone. >> reporter: that after trump seemed so confuse two groups. >> are you familiar with general solomani? >> yes. give me -- tell me. >> he runs the quds forces. >> they have been horribly mistreated. >> not the kurds. the quds, the iranian revolution
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forces, the bad guys. >> reporter: he accused him of gotcha questions. >> when you ask who is running this, this, this, that is -- i will be so good at the military, your head will spin. >> thank you. >> reporter: carly fiorina, another candidate from business, not politics, was on same program the same day answering with more fluency. >> we know the qud force has been a powerful tool of the iranian regime to sow conflict. >> reporter: other candidates piled on. >> you can't say, well, you know, i will hire the best people and it will be done. you have to have some sense of what's at risk here. >> if you don't know the answer to those questions, you are not going to be afble to serve as commander in chief. >> reporter: he is not the first who doesn't deal with geopolitical issues. here is ben carson earlier this year.
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>> should we have that sort of commitment that if putin makes a move on the baltic states we would go to war? >> well, if we have them involved in nato. we need to convince them to get involved ed id in nato. >> they are in nato. >> reporter: no one can argue ben carson who performed ground breaking surgeries is not bright. donald trump is a very smart man. polls show republican primary voters want outsiders to bring a new perspective to washington. those who do have experience, those who are running on that experience, they're hoping that voters will look at the reality tv star's interview and say he's not ready for prime time. >> dana bash, thank you so much. a lot to discuss about this. let's bring in jeffrey lord and rory cooper. thanks for coming on.
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rory, starting with you, we heard it, donald trump saying hugh hewitt asked gotcha questions. do you think trump has a right to be upset? >> no. he's a brilliant interviewer. he will do a brilliant job. he was asking fair questions. donald trump's not -- is not running to be dog catcher. he has to have a broad idea of what's going on in the world. voters will forgive whether he forgets names or who might be leading a current regime. who is leading a proxy war in syria? what is going on with troop movements in iraq? most importantly, who is directing strikes at u.s. tro troops? a commander in chief has to make decisions based off of a broad idea of what's going on. if you can't do that, you shouldn't run for president. >> marco rubio echoed that, saying if you aren't able to
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answer these questions, you shouldn't be commander in chief. what do you think? >> i think if these -- if the standards were applied to george w. bush, he would have never been president. the same game was played with george w. bush in 1999. he didn't know the same kind of answers. >> i remember that interview. i remember that interview, jeffrey. it was all names. >> before i came on here, i got an e-mail from a woman. i won't give her last name. she is a cnn interviewer. she's looking for somebody who has judgment, not who knows the details. to be candid, this sounds -- i like hugh hewitt. i have been on his show. in all candor, this sounds like he is pining for the carter presidency where the president knows all the details of the air force budget but has no judgment about what the soviet union is about. we need judgment, judgment.
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if you know all the details of a train and you are telling people we're going to boston but in fact the train is going to miami, you know, the fact that you know the details of the engine don't really help very much. >> rory, does trump have judgment? >> i remember the interview with george w. bush and did he get stumped on names. but he had an idea of what was going on in the world. donald trump clearly does not. judgment doesn't help when you have the joint chiefs of staff and the national security in a room in the national security council telling you different things and you have to make a decision based off of the information they're giving you. >> he has to make a judgment. >> based off a broad sense of what's going on. if you are getting information at that moment from the joint chiefs and you don't have any idea of what's going on in the most volatile region in the world and arguably the most volatile time in our generation, then you are not going to be able to make a sensible
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judgment. this isn't a game. this is a high-stakes arena. >> i mean, you know, trump has appealed to a lot of people. he's a good businessman, that he brings in good people. rory, is that enough? does he have to know all the answers if he is bringing in the best people? >> the current leadership in the military exists. he will walk in on day one and have a very competent military infrastructure to give him sound advice. he will have to have some idea of how to use that advice. right now, he is going in with a pretty naive vision of how you can be president. yes, in business you have the ability to dell egate and other people to make decisions. when you have your hand on the nuclear button, you have less room for failure. you have to have better judgment, better knowledge and base of support to go in and make sound decisions. >> jeffrey -- >> what we are hearing here is
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classic insiderdom. if you haven't been around washington for decades, if you don't know this stuff, you're not qualified to be president. i would remine the qualification to be president is you have to be 35 years old and a citizen of the country and a native born citizen of the country. that's it. >> to combat that i will look at carly fiorina. she is coming from outside washington and she was prepared to answer basic questions. >> carly came after donald trump and heard that interview. go ahead. >> that's correct. >> i think she did a -- >> i read her interview. she was a little mushy arn y ar the edges, too. i don't criticize that. i don't criticize that at all. otherwise, let's go back to president bush. i mean, president bush got up to speed pretty quick. anybody who is in that job will. these are the -- when ronald reagan showed up as president
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elect to meet with jimmy carter, carter complained that he had this long memo and this long list of things that he went over with reagan and he was upset because reagan didn't take notes. >> you will remember -- you will remember -- >> okay. i will have to ask you to carry on this conversation offline. gentlemen, thank you for coming on on a friday right before the holiday weekend. we appreciate it. jeffrey lord and rory cooper. hugh hewitt will be part of the cnn debate wednesday, september 16th, right here on cnn. "outfront" next, kentucky clerk kim davis still behind bars for refusing to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. ahead, why her husband says she will stay in jail until the court agrees to a deal. breaking news, illinois police say they now have several videos that could lead them to the men who shot and killed lieutenant joe gliniewicz. we will have a live update from the man leading the
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investigation. ant donald trump isn't the t candidate to stumble over a foreign policy question. here is a bit of that 1999 interview we were talking about. >> can you name the president of chechnya? >> no. can you? imagine - she won't have to remember passwords. or obsess about security. she'll log in with her smile. he'll have his very own personal assistant. and this guy won't just surf the web. he'll touch it. scribble on it. and share it. because these kids will grow up with windows 10. get started today. windows 10. a more human way to do.
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horribly mistreated by us. >> not the kurds. the quds forces, the iranian revolutionary forces. >> he wou >>. >> reporter: he said he misheard. in 1999, george w. bush was topping the polls which a reporter asked. >> you can name the president of chechnya? >> no. can you. >> you can na >> can you name the general -- >> is this 50 questions? >> reporter: bush was criticized. so was hillary clinton in 2008. >> i can tell you he's a hand picked successor. >> reporter: she struggled when asked about the successor to putin. >> do you know his name? >> whatever. yes. >> reporter: sarah palin could not name the newspaper she relied on for her world view. >> i have read most of them with a great appreciation for the press, for the media.
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>> what one specifically? >> all of them. any of them that have been in front of me over all these years. >> can you name a few? >> i have a vast variety of sources. >> reporter: her grasp of foreign affairs was a national joke. >> i can see russia from my house. >> reporter: even as recently as 2011, listen to herman kane. >> when asked, i will say, i don't know. do you know? >> reporter: voters do not name foreign policy as one of their top priorities. they rank it as they have in this election below thinks like immigration and the economy and healthcare. why does this matter? because voters do care about competence. if a candidate fails on that subject, he or she could be in trouble. pamela. >> tom foreman, thank you. "outfront" tonight, gloria borger. thanks for coming on.
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we just heard in tom's piece george w. bush couldn't name world leaders. he still won two presidential elections. the big question, will this even matter for trump? >> it's a different world now than it was for george w. bush. we live in a post-9/11 world. the american public sees beheadings by isis. they understand the stakes in the middle east. you have a pending iranian nuclear deal. i think it is very important terrain in this election. having said that, will it stick? will it matter for donald trump? you know, if you look at the republican field right now, pamela, there isn't anybody except for lindsey graham who is accomplished on foreign policy, but there isn't anybody with a depth of experience. marco rubio is on the foreign relations committee.
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but he's a first term senator. it depends who donald trump really is up against. >> if he is a republican nominee, what if he's up against the fofrmrmer secretary of stat? >> look, hillary clinton is the most experienced foreign policy contender in the presidential race, period. she is a former secretary of state. donald trump has said she is the worst secretary of state in history. what he has got to be able to do is back that up with facts and explanations. and that's going to be a big hurdle for him. when he has been asked who are your foreign policy advisers, he said, i watch a lot on the talk shows and i see good ones. it's very clear that he hasn't really taken that deep dive yet into foreign policy that when you are applying for the job of commander in chief is kind of
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the thing to do. if you are up against hill cry cl clinton, you better be prepared to back it up. >> we will see what happens. gloria borger, thank you so much for sharing your perspective. "outfront" next, breaking news. new video has surfaced in the illinois shooting of an illinois police officer, joe gliniewicz. my guest the lead investigator. the kentucky clerk behind bars because she won't grant marriage licenses to gay couples. why she's being called a prisoner of conscience. listen up team, i brought in some protein to help rearrange the fridge and get us energized! i'm new ensure active high protein. i help you recharge with nutritious energy and strength to keep you active. come on pear, it's only a half gallon. i'll take that. yeeeeeah! new ensure active high protein. 16 grams of protein and 23 vitamins and minerals. all in 160 calories. ensure. take life in.
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tonight, the jailed kentucky clerk who is refusing to grant marriage licenses to same-sex couples is speaking out. kim davis says she has no intention of resigning. even though a judge ordered her to remain behind bars until she agrees to comply with the law. according to her lawyer, davis has no remorse as dave his rema defiant. alexander field is "outfront." >> reporter: the six-times the
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charm for william smith and james yates, partners for ten years. they were cheered by their supporters. after finally getting their marriage license following five other tries in rowan county, kentucky. >> each time we were rejected. each time we were told it was kim davis' decision. the last time we came was really, really hard because we had protesters outside. as soon as we were rejected -- we had our hearts broken. >> reporter: kim davis couldn't reject the couple this time. the clerk was sent to jail after a judge held her in context of court for refusing to issue licenses to same-sex couples despite a court order to do so. >> she can't violate her conscience. if that means she's here for a longer period of time, she's prepared to be here. >> reporter: davis remains defiantly opposed to authorizing same-sex marriages, even as she sits behind bars. >> if our government can bully you, then they will make everybody bow down to what they want to do.
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if we don't take our country back, we're the one that puts them in there. >> reporter: davis rejected an offer to get out of jail if she agrees to authorize her deputies to issue the licenses or not interfere with the process. five of the deputies are now giving out licenses that don't bear her name. >> she need her name and authority off of the license. it could be issued under the authority of the commonwealth of kentucky. >> reporter: davis' attorney says a marriage license without her name on it is not valid. lawyers for the couples disagree, which means everything to william smith and james yates. >> we are very happy. we're elated, actually, that we got our license this time. >> reporter: it was earlier this summer the supreme court made that decision allowing same-sex marriage nationwide. it was after that decision, however, that davis ordered the six deputy clerks in her office not to issue any marriage
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licenses. after those deputy clerks were called to court and they watched the clerk be hauled away in the custody of the u.s. marshal, they were each questioned by a judge and then five of the seix agreed they would issue the marriage licenses. we asked kim davis' attorney about her reaction to the deputies' decision. he says she doesn't harbor any personal resentment towards them. she feels they were coerced to accept the judge's order. the holdout, the only deputy clerk who did not agree to uphold the judge's order was kim davis' son. >> very interesting. kim davis remains defiiandefian. breaking news. investigators pouring over videos from the shooting of an illinois police officer. do the videos reveal who shot lieutenant gliniewicz? "outfront" tonight, the manhunt's lead investigator. this texas man right here shot and killed by police with his hands in the air.
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breaking news. the manhunt for three suspected cop killers. investigators say they have videos which could give them a break in the case. investigators confirming that the gun found at the scene did, in fact, belong to lieutenant joe gliniewicz. the lead investigator will join me in a moment. first, ryan young is "outfront." >> reporter: new clues tonight in the massive manhunt for three cop killers. officials reviewing videos that may help identify the suspects. >> i think we're optimistic about all of these videos right now because they all -- they all come together chronologically. if they're not separate, they're not independent. they're different cameras putting a story line together. >> reporter: the videos come from multiple sources, including private residents, businesses and traffic cameras. the department of transportation cameras like this one that
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record interest ssections throu the day. usually it's erased after a few hours. someone decided to hold the video and has provided it to detectives. cameras are everywhere throughout this community. investigators have confirmed to us that the fbi is actually using technology to stitch together a time line from before and after the murder to hopefully get more clues. investigators returned to the crime scene friday afternoon hoping to discover new evidence while police are confirming that fox lake officer joe gliniewicz' handgun was found at the scene. a source tells cn this it had been fired. >> it was found near the lieutenant's remains. i can't reveal how many times it was fired. >> reporter: we have learned police are asking for dna samples from everyone they interview hoping to find a link to the suspects. authorities are offering a $50,000 reward for any information that leads to an arrest. with thousands of tourists expected this labor day weekend, an arrest couldn't come soon
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enough. >> i think everyone will come -- everyone cares deeply. a bad situation. i think the people still come out and enjoy themselves. maybe keep their eyes open. i don't think even he would want us to stop. >> reporter: just 200 yards down this road where that officer was killed, you can see the work still continues right now. in fact, investigators tellingm dogs to look for more clues. >> thank you. we appreciate it. joining me is the commander of the lake county major crimes task force. and the public information officer for the lake county sheriff's office. thank you for coming back on the show. we appreciate it. chief, i'm going to go to you first. the big question is, how do you actually watch -- you have waha watched any of the videos now that we are learning there's more than one video we found out
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about yesterday? >> no, i haven't actually reviewed the videos yet. we're waiting for the fbi's tech lab to put these videos together. as you can imagine, some of these videos are very lengthy in time. they could span as much as 8 to 24 hours. they're trying to decrease the size or the length of the videos and put them in a chronological order. once that's done, we will sit down and start going through all of that. >> what have you been told about the videos that makes you believe they are, as you said today, even more relevant to this case? >> the description initially given out by the officer is vague. he only described three individual, two male whites and a male black. these videos apparently are showing images of subjects
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fitting that description within the time frame of the murder. >> detective, it has been nearly four days since this shooting. maybe there will be some big leads from these videos. we don't know yet. do you have any doubts whatsoever that you are looking for the right people here, these two white men and one black man? >> we don't have any doubts at this point. lieutenant gliniewicz when he made the description, which is very standard protocol when you are a police officer is calling out with any suspicious person, he called out the sex and race of the individuals. that was one of his last transmissions. we don't have any doubt we're looking for two male whites and one male black. >> chief, you said the suspects you believe are very dangerous. you believe they killed an officer. you said the community's safety is not in jeopardy. how can you be so sure if these three suspects are on the lose
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still? >> that's a good question. one of the things that the local police department in cooperation with the sheriff's office as well as the state police have increased a police presence within community, taking into consideration that this is a holiday weekend. they are expecting several thousand people to come in, utilize the chain of lakes and some of the other facilities within the community. so i think a large police presence should offset any concern by the community. >> but these guys could still be in the community, right? the description is so vague, two white men and one black man. >> that's correct. we're not going to discount that. we believe they are in the area. they may not necessary -- they may not be necessarily in the community of fox lake. they could be in any one of the surrounding communities. we're hoping that at some point once we get a better handle on
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the videos to start looking at the images and perhaps releasing images to the public. >> detective, do you have any specific evidence to indicate why you believe they're still in the area? >> you know, like the chief mentioned earlier today, often times criminals will hide in plain sight. meaning, they don't necessarily up and flee when they have committed a crime. we don't have any indication that they have fled the area. we don't have necessarily any indication that they are right here. statistics show us often times in situations like this, criminals hide in plain sight. >> chief, you said the officer's gun was found at the crime scene. do you find it odd that the suspects didn't take the gun with them? >> that's not necessarily unusual. again, when you have a heinous
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incident like this occur, who knows what kind of thought process is going through the suspects' mind. fight or flight type of issues. no, that's not unusual. >> how many bullets were fired from the gun? >> i'm not at liberty to reveal that at this point. >> does it appear that the gun was used for self-defense or that the suspects actually used the gun to kill the officer? >> you know, again, i'm prohibited because of the criminal investigative aspect of this case. sorry, i can't answer that question. >> i understand you have an ongoing investigation. can you at least tell us, were there any signs of a struggle at all? >> again, that's part of the investigative process. that's information that we're not prepared to release at this point. >> i know it's still very early on. but you have had teams there
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collecting forensic evidence. are there any footprints, dna or fingerprints left at the scene that may be helpful? >> again, there's been significant evidence collected. i will tell you that today our evidence technicians were at the scene once again. and they did recover a piece of significant evidence that wasn't found in the last few days. but i can't reveal exactly what that is or any of the other evidence, because it's extremely relevant that we keep some of this information away from the public. >> can you just give us a vague sense, was it a footprint? was it a strand of hair? anything like that? can you give us a sense? if this is so significant. >> again, it's a criminal investigation. it's a process. i understand there's frustration there. i get this question asked repeatedly. i will give you the same answer
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that i don't want to jeopardize this investigation and any future prosecution by revealing any type of evidence at this point. >> you do believe significant evidence was found at that crime scene today? >> yes. i will confirm that. >> okay. chief, detective, thank you very much. have a nice weekend. >> thank you. >> thank you. let's bring in jonathan gillian. you heard it there, i asked a lot of questions. not many answers when it comes to what was at the crime scene. what do you make of that, that they are reluctant to share details? >> it's typical of law enforcement. they have an ongoing investigation. they're not going to give out a lot of details. one thing that they could start to give out a little bit -- look, i understand that the chief -- i think they're doing a great job. their press conferences have been some of the best i have seen with different things going on. i think the public needs to be utilized more than they are,
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because of the fact that they really don't have a lot to go on while they get the cameras set up so they can see the videos and what actually happened. i'm thinking it's probably one of two things. these individuals are either there to basically do something. in other words, there was something being delivered, they were doing something in the warehouse, possibly a robbery of copper. they steal a lot of copper in the mornings or a robbery on a house. they could have been armed and more aggressive when an officer showed up. then they ran and then attacked him. the other thing it could have been is that they were just -- they had warrants. they didn't want to be seen. that to me would explain a little bit more if they did use the officer's weapon on him, which happens more often than you would think. >> very quickly i want to ask, the video they have had for more than 24 hours isn't available yet. there isn't a description to give the public. is that unusual it would take this long for a crucial clue? >> i think the detective should
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have looked at it before it was sent off. >> we know dhs is looking at it. hopefully, we will get results back soon. thank you so much. "outfront" up next, this texas man shot and killed by police. his family now speaking out. their attorney coming up. jeanne moos proofing most everything donald trump touches turns to gold. even his he is can laescolators. look like this. feel like this. look like this. feel like this. with dreamwalk insoles, turn shoes that can be a pain into comfortable ones. their soft cushioning support means you can look like this. and feel like this. dreamwalk.
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weeks before. police say that the couple got into a violent encounter that brought sheriffs deputies to the scene. sources tell c cnn, it showed flores with a knife in his hand. we want to warn our viewers, the video is disturbing. joining me to discuss is the attorney for the gilbert flores family, thomas henry. thanks for coming back on. there is a secretary individuon. you have been trying to get access to that. what have the authorities been telling you? >> they are performing their investigation. they want to get all of their evidence together for purposes of presenting it to a grand jury. during that process, they generally have a procedure where they are not going to turn over evidence. in this case, they have
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certainly made statements. the sheriff has and law enforcement have about what's on the second video without providing the video. >> we heard statements he had a knife in his hand. what can you tell us about the fact that mr. flores was holding a knife during the confrontation with police? >> well, the video that we see now, whether or not he is holding a knife at that time, that's in question because we cannot tell. but the issue of whether he is or isn't holding a knife -- >> was he holding a knife during the confrontation? >> that confrontation occurred at various different times while the officers were out there. >> did he hold a knife during any of those various times? >> i think there was an initial interaction with an officer and mr. flores where the knife was not used to stab an officer. but the butt of the knife may have been used in an altercation. at the time he is shot though,
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the issue of the knife being in his hand or not is still an issue. but whether the knife is in his hand or not, there's an issue as to whether or not his aggression had stopped. that's the issue. did his aggression stop whereby officers should not have used that lethal force? >> that's the big question. clearly in that first video, he has his hands up and the officer shoots. playing on the other side of this what the officers would say is state of mind. we had reason to believe he was a threat based on how he lunged at them with this knife, the butt of the knife and hit one of the officers with the butt of the knife. doesn't that help explain their state of mind at that point? >> i think the issue is going to be whether or not when his hands are up in the air, would you objectively and subjectively believe at that time that he was not a threat because his aggressive activity had stopped? so that's the key issue. taking that snapshot of time at
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that moment. >> had yyou had no reason to be he had a knife in his hand when he was putting his hands up? >> that is yet to be determined. we have not seen the video. >> do you think you think talki clients that he was surrendering peacefully though? >> well -- >> your client, the wife was there at the scene? >> i have talked to a number of people at the scene. i have actually met with the entire family. and i have met with an individual that viewed parts of that incident from a window in that home. when it was happening. and so -- that particular view for that witness, there are some question as but the visibility but the, there is no doubt that there was a domestic call, the officers responded appropriately to a domestic call, but, but there is again, that gigantic issue about whether or not his aggressive
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conduct had stopped when his hand were raised. and i think that's why you're playing this particular piece tonight. because the public is concerned about whether or not he was being aggressive. his appearance clearly is that he was not at the moment he was shot from this video. the other video will help provide more information and evidence that comes in will be helpful >> authorities say they're not going to release that anytime soon. sound like. thank you for coming on. we understand you are in the process of preparing a civil suit as well. thank you. appreciate it. now want to bring in retired nypd detective, harry houk. thank you for coming on. we were talking about, flores, appeared to have his hand up. do you think the deputies had any right to shoot? >> well, like the counselor said before. we have to wait until we find out more information. now when that gentleman had his hands up we could not see his left hand. all right. so maybe there was a weapon in
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his left hand. i can't tell. but what's very interesting about this, though, pamela, the fact that both officers perceived a threat almost simultaneously. that tells me something here. this isn't like, police officers -- you know, one officer shooting because he wants to kill somebody. another officer not. so we got two officers receiving the same threat at the same time. and what a lot of people don't understand also is the fact that if you are within 20 feet of somebody that's got a knife. if i have a knife in my left hand. i am telling you to drop that knife. and you don't drop it. all right. now you are an imminent threat. and within, within about 20 second the i could be on you and killing you that fast. so as a police officer, if i've tell you to drop the knife. you are that close to me. and you don't drop it. you are getting shot. >> but, in fairness. they don't appear to be standing within arm's length. it does ant peer n't appear in individually he is moving toward them.
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>> well are trained as officers, between 21 or 22 feet. if somebody has got a knife that if you don't have your weapon pulled, that, that you, as a police officer can be killed by that person with a knife. that's how quickly that occurs. all police officers are trained that way. so it looks like they were 10 feet apart. >> there is still a lot more to learn about this case for sure, harry houk. thank you very much. >> out front next, jeanne moos on what may be the most famous escalator in america. ere. my drivers don't have time to fill out forms. tablets. keep it all digital. we're looking to double our deliveries. our fleet apps will find the fastest route. oh, and your boysenberry apple scones smell about done. ahh, you're good. i like to bake. add new business services with at&t and get up to $500 in total savings.
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