i got the chills. >> reporter: new york. >> thank you so much for joining us. i'm pamela brown. have a fantastic holiday week end. and "ac 360" starts now. good evening. john berman in for anderson tonight. stumping donald trump. fair game or got you. the republican front-runner doesn't know much about some of the country's dangerous adversaries. the question is, would that matter if he becomes president? more immediately will it matter to voters to prevent him from becoming president or becoming the republican nominee? and even more urgently, will his fogginess on the facts change the face of the upcoming republican debate next wednesday two wednesdays from now, right here on cnn. hugh hewitt, conservative radio host on the debate panel asking questions he grilled mr. trump on his radio program yesterday asking him about a number of bad actors on the world stage. we put together some key moments.

listen. >> are you familiar with general solomani. >> yes. but but go ahead, give me a little. go ahead, tell me. he runs the quds forces. >> the kurds -- for frz a >> the quds forces. >> i'm sorry. i thought you said kurd. the kurd have been very poorly treated by us. >> agreed. >> do you know the players without a scorecard yet, donald trump? >> no, i think, by the time we got to office. they will be changed. all gone the i knew you would ask me things like this. there is no reason. number one, i will hopefully find general douglas macarthur in the pack, i will find who ever it is that i will find. but they're all changingch th. e

do you know this one. i thought you used the word kurd before. i will till you i think the kurds are most underutilized and being mistreated by us. no one understand why. as far as the individual players, i don't know them. i haven't met them. i haven't been position to meet them. if, they're still there which is unlikely in many cases if they're still there, i will know them better than i know you. >> i don't believe in gotcha questions. i am not trying to quiz you. >> that is a gotcha question, when you are asking me, who is running this, this, this. i will be so good at the military, your head will spin. obviously i'm not meeting these people. i'm not seeing these people. >> last question, i want to go back to the beginning. i do agree with you on the gotcha question. at the debate i may bring up nasrallah being with hezbollah, and al-julani being with al-nusra and al-masri, do you

think if i ask people to talk about those three things and the differences, that's a gotcha question? >> i think it is ridiculous. i am a dell game tegator. i will find them in the armed forces. i find absolutely great people. >> as you can tell, donald trump took exception to the line of questioning. today he also took exception to the questioner. >> you know, by the way when you say quds, versus kurd. i thought he said, kurds. the third rate, radio announcer, i did his show. every question was do i know this one, that one. he worked hard on that. i thought he said kurds. >> a third rate radio announcer he said. our guest on the program tonight, hugh hewitt joins to us respond. hugh hewitt, donald trump says you are a third rate, radio announcer. how much does that hurt your feelings?

>> well, i think it is a well-earned trump tattoo. donald trump has been my guest a half dozen times, john i gait long with him well. i would start every radio snow with him. he gets of course, enormous audience, entertaining and informative. yesterday in the events we talked about whether or not what i was asking was a gotcha question. he did quite well on complicated questions how he would respond if the prc would attack an allied ship. overnight he thought more about it. didn't like what he saw. and didn't like how it was plague s playing. he did a very good, professional, television skilled, rockateur would do change the subject back to me. i want the audience to know when it comes time for the cnn debate next week from wednesday, i am not mad at donald trump. i am not pro-donald trump. i'm not for or against any of the candidates. i just want to ask questions thit th that gop primary voters want to

know. >> he says he doesn't need to know the answers to these questions. he can hire people when the time come that know the answer to these questions. douglas macarthur types he says who are out there. is that enough for a president? >> it scud could be. he is making an argument. he will go find the new petraeus, new mcchrystal, john allen, bring make, jim maddus, there are brilliant military mind. he could indeed do that. it is important i think to couple that in any time that that argument is made with, with names of people who are close in time to a younger generation who might not really relate to the fact that douglas macarthur, was a genius. i think maybe the messaging there need to get it is legitimate. i have done 60 interviews, plus with gop candidates. they're all over the map on how they will respond to this incredibly difficult problem of the two sides of islamist

fanaticism, shiia side and sunni side. >> he said he is a great delegator. i don't think any other candidates said they will delegate foreign policy. normally when you hear gotch am questions or pop quizzes, it's the liberal media, you aren't exactly a part of the lib yal media or establishment. you are a conservative radio host you worked for richard nixon. ronald reagan. are you used to this type of push back? >> orech, yeah if you have done interviews. some didn't like questions. jeb bush didn't know about the ohio class submarine. he said i will get become to you on it. it is not embarrassing to be called out by a question by a host. here is the deal, a gotcha question, i think, john when you quiz someone on something that the ordinary presidential candidate couldn't be expected to know. the president of niger, or what's the number of nuclear

weapons that pakistan has on deployment at any given time. those are gotcha questions. i gave donald trump the names of leaders of the terrorist groups i was interested in, the hamas, hezbollah, i wasn't trying to trip him up. i want to get to the key question which is whether or not the iran deal is make israel less secure and us less secure in the long run. there is an argument out there it helps us. that it is actually going to assist the west and israel by bringing isis to, to heel with the assistance of general sulamani came up in the first debate. donald trump talked about him before. in the course of my conversation, donald remembered sulamani. took time for the name to strike gold. >> it wasn't the names, whether he knew them or not i wasn't the quds/kurd. when you talked hezbollah and hamas and the leaders. he said they wouldn't be around. listen to his answer here.

>> the names you just mention they they probably went be there in six months or a year. >> i don't know, nasrallah has staying power. first day in office or day after the election i will know more about that in you will ever know. >> this wasn't nopt knowit know certain names. this was affirmatively asserting some of the terrorist leaders in the world, that they're going to be gone. in the next six months to a year. to me if he is suggesting that. won't it mean the obama anti-terrorist policy is wildly successful? >> i think he is referring to the fact that the drone will take out one of the bad guys. i hope the bad guys are gonen't i hope he is right. here i am, defending donald trump after he called me a third rate announcer. it is legitimate to say witness you get nominated you receive intelligence briefings date-up are the party nominee. that is true.

i am certain the next president will know more than i, or you or anybody watching on the fir dais they receive their first intelligence briefing the that said, i would love to know why he thinks nasrallah who has been there 20 years will be gone. because we are not in the habit of drone strike hezbollah. and israel hasn't been able to remove him either in two decades. >> last question, you say you now have your donald trump tattoo. what part of your anatomy do you have the tattoo? >> got to keep that that quiet. keep the people guessing. >> hugh hugh it. thank you for your time. >> some things remain a secret. having heard that. what our political panel makes of it and how it may affect a candidate who seems to defy the laws of political gravity and gaffes. breaking news, we are learning what investigators are calling a significant new piece of evidence in the killing of an illinois police lieutenant. we'll have a live update.

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something to talk about with our panel. first though, a less confrontational but just as colorful moment from that interview. >> you know, every developer in manhattan, you know everything about building buildings, you could build a wall. i have no doubt about it. >> nobody knows how easy that would be. i moon it would be -- it would be tall. it would be powerful. we would make it very good looking. it would be as good a wall is going to be. people will not be climbing over that wall, believe me. >> joining us now, cnn political commentator's, jeffrey lord, a trump supporter, served as political director for ronald reagan. anna is a bush supporter and marco rubio. and strategist for the national trust. rick we, have discussed all sorts of things that might hurt a candidate. all sorts of things donald trump

has done. but nothing seems to hurt donald trump or negatively affect his poll numbers. so, will this interaction with hugh hewitt be anything different? >> look, i think the people that are committed to donald trump are committed to donald trump. we have talked about this before. they have, they have an almost willful defiance of any contradictses in his policy statements. almost willful defiance in gaps in his knowledge. they were out within minutes on social media it shows donald trump is a real leader. he doesn't know these things. and he'll just delegate them out. i call it the trump reality distortion field. they frequently end up getting these, these, these ideas in their heads that donald trump has said something therefore it is a fact. it is, it is, the only fact in the universe on these things. it's puzzling because he didn't know the things. own up to it.

if you didn't have an answer. say i don't know the answer. handle it. he tried to bull through it. he did, he did, have his quds versus kurds excuse. the fact of the matter is, his voters, his constituency right now. they don't care the he could have said they're space aliens from another world here to discuss theory with academics. yeah, that's what it is. they're disconnected from the fact side of the equation. >> well, jeffrey lord that's not exactly what he said. he didn't bring up space aliens in this case. he said i don't have to know this. i can delegate. i can hire people who will know about foreign policy. i will stipulate this may not hurt him very much. you, jeffrey lord do you want your candidates running for president, seeking nom nation io know the difference between hamas and hezbollah? >> what i want them to have, john, is judgment.

i worked for ronald reagan. ronald reagan was frequently accused of not knowing the details, happened all the way through presidency. not just a candidate. when he showed up to meet with jimmy carter. carter had a long memo of things he went over with and was disturbed ronald reagan never took a note. george w. bush has we have seen on "cnn tonight" flubbed the same kind of thing back in 1999. let me say for hugh hewitt. i have met hugh a few times, been on his radio show. i do disagree with this though. i think we are talking about the fundamental operation of the presidency. it is important that we have judgment here. the details can be filled in by all kind of people on the staff. but the judgment is, is critical here. that its what donald trump has and what supporters like about him. >> the recent cnn poll in iowa, voters were asked who would do the best job in handling terrorism, terrorist groups like hamas or hezbollah.

overwhelmingly they said the best candidate would be donald trump. you think that will stick? >> you know, i think rick is right. it is going to stick with his committed supporters. i think some of the people who are iffy, who are maybe giving him a second look are going to have some doubts. because look the bottom line is, the "apprentice" may make for a good reality tv show. it would make some people including myself very nervous to thinning thk that you have an apprentice in the situation room when it concerns national security and our country is in danger. the questions he was asked, frankly, normal people shouldn't know them. anybody running for president should know them. particularly because he was asked basically the same question during the republican debates a month ago. everybody else that goes on the program gets asked, tough, defense and foreign policy question. this is not a gotcha question. but i don't expect tight have a

cost. listen, he went after megyn kelly. a quasi-deity, his numbers went up. say tactic with hugh hewitt. i wouldn't be surprised if his numbers continue going up. >> rick, what is a gotcha question, asking terrorist leaders, world situation is a gotcha question, where's the limit? >> well, look, i do think there is a point. and hugh acknowledged it earlier. by every, every account, he is one of the most fair and intelligent commentators and talk show host out there. but, you know look he didn't ask donald trump who is the deputy foreign minister of pakistan? he didn't ask donald trump, you know what are the locations of the chinese icbm fields? those are gotcha questions. having a broad understanding of the general layout of the political structure in the middle east, having a broad

understanding of how iran's attempt to establish itself as a sort of regional power, works in, in the, the demroement that they have of resources to hamas and hezbollah and the quds force and irgc and everything else. those are things that i think, that a president who has those level of base line knowledge on those things -- i agree with jeffrey. judgment is the most important thing. general philosophical orientati orientation. understanding how to manage is one thing. there is a difference between the guy the manager and the delegator but dumb as a bag of hair and the guy who is the super nerd who can't make a decision for his life. so, you want some where in the middle of that range. >> we'll leave it right there. let the audience decide to which one you think donald trump is. jeffrey lord, anna navaro, rick wilson. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, john. >> next, breaking news -- what authorities are calling a significant new piece of

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breaking news in fox lake illinois where the manhunt for cop killers in its fourth day. an investigator told cnn significant new evidence related to the case was found today at the crime scene. ryan young joins me with the very latest. ryan, the latest news, significant evidence found at the crime scene. what can you tell us? >> reporter: john, we have been back to the crime scene ourselves today. what we were told by the chief is they have been out there all day trying to look at it, find more evidence. they used weed whackers, machetes, got on the ground to look around. somewoun fou sp someone found evidence. they're not sthaharing what the found. they belief they fund a clue. that goes with the video. video stitched together by the fbi to create a time line to figure out more clues and extra information involved in the case.

>> so there is new surveillance video we heard about although that is not released to the public. and the significant piece of evidence they found. we even know whether it is an object? >> that's one of the questions we wanted to ask. they're not going to answer that question yet. they talked about the video. surveillance video, businesses and homeowners and department of transportation. some one at department of transportation decided to hold video they would resookle through. now they will create a master time line of the area. that way when they stitch this together and you add the fact they got more evidence at the scene. investigators are out there even a half-hour ago. you can see they're working through this before they share extra information with us. >> ryan young for us. thank you very much. that new information that ryan told us about, it came from two men, joining us right now, two men very much part of this investigation, leading the search for what could be three suspected cop killers. chief george falanko, commander

of the lake county may major crime task force, and detective christopher cavelli. this evidence, new piece of significant evidence at the crime scene. can you till ell us anything ab what it is? >> no, unfortunately i can't. we are trying to main taintain chain of custody, about releasing any type of forensic evidence that we have collected that is part of our process. >> chief, it took several days to find this piece of evidence. why so long? why wasn't it uncovered right away. this area is slightly remote. it is wooded. we are dealing with extreme conditions out there. high grass. brush. trees. literally for the last several days. our evidence technicians have gone out there on a daily basis.

with machetes, weed whackers, today they were down on their hand and knees doing grid searches. and one of them recovered this piece of evidence. >> this new video -- that is being analyzed. ryan young tells us, trying to president together a time loon of this video and maybe others in the neighborhood. what kind of light does that shed on the suspects and, how are you deciding whether or not to release this to the public? >> well, at this point, it is really not necessary to release it to the public. what we are frying to do is piece together -- with the assistance of the fbi crime lab. video collected, collected from a number of locations. what they're going to do is they're going to consolidate the video. some is pretty lengthy. 8 to 24 hours. and then they're going to put it in chronological order for us. we are going to see what kind of images we can extract from the video. if we can identify the

individuals on the video. >> there are three guys in the video. can you confirm that? >> that's correct. >> and their races, we heard two white men, one black man, that's what the lieutenant radioed in before his last transmission? >> that is also correct. >> all right, detective cavelli, i understand the police presence has been beefed up ahead of the holiday. do you still thing the suspected killers might be in the area? >> we think that is a strong possibility. we don't have any indication at this point to indicate they have left the community or left the immediate area. they could be in a surrounding town or village. that is a strong reason why we have beefed up patrols so much. we are going to have a large influx of people from the city of chicago and elsewhere coming in for the weekend for the holiday weekend to go out on the chain of lakes. we want to ensure everybody out here feels safe and knows we are out here to protect them. >> chief, to go back to the

video for a second. if you have identified the race of the men. at what point would it be advantageous to ask the public's help. because if you can see enough of the guys to get images to get recognizable images, wouldn't you want people out there looking? well our process involves identifying these individuals through our sources within the police department. and some of the witnesses or sorry, some of the individuals that have come forward and offered up information. this could simply be a matter of sitting with some of the police officers that are familiar with the area and having them view these images and seeing if they can identify them first. >> do you think you are close to names of suspects? do you think you are close to getting the names of any sus snekts. >> i believe we are close. >> why?

based on what we are seeing. preliminary results in the videos. we're -- we're believing and going into the direction that there is somebody within the police department here, or within our investigative group that is going to be able to identify these individuals. >> all right, that is a piece of new information. chief, detective, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up. i'm going to speak to the attorney for the county clerk in jail for refusing to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. he says licenses her deputies are issuing are not valid. i will ask him why. plus, just two aleve can last all day. you'd need 6 tylenol arthritis to do that. aleve. all day strong. if you struggle you're certainly not alone.

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religious beliefs, and the license issued to gay couples today the licenses are invalid. his wife is prepared to remain in jail until a compromise is reached. kim davis' attorney and founder and chairman of liberty counsel. he jioins me tonight. as of right now your client is still in jail. how long does she plan on remaining there? >> well i don't know how long she is going to be there. but i do know she resolved two things. she is not going to resign because the people voted her in the position they want her to remain as county clerk. number two, most importantly she will not violate her conscience. so she is ready for the consequences of those decisions. i hope that we can get her out very quickly. she should never have been confined in jail. it's a disturbing thing when you visit a client like kim davis

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authority as clerk of the court. it's look issuing something under the name president obama or under the president of the united states of america. you know the same person. >> is her name on the marriage certificate. >> her name today, or most recently, on these issue ad by deputy clerks wasn't on the certificate. they're suppose to be on the certificate. typical way it is supposed to be filled out. they did not purr her name on there. however her authority as the clerk of the court still remains there. so we have asked from the very beginning, from the very first time we were ever in court. that her name and the title of her as the the clerk of the court, of rowan county be removed. these could be issued under the authority of the commonwealth of kentucky. but not under the clerk. when you say it is kim davis, or you say it is the clerk of rowan county, you know it is the same person, kim davis. >> i heard you come compare your client to martin luther king. she is standing by the decision

based on her conscience. i dent think anybody does doubt her conscience or beliefs here. others say this isn't a case of martin luther king standing up for individual rights versus the government. this is more like george wallace standing in the schoolhouse door, or standing at the university trying to coop students from going in. asserting the government's role in the way of citizens? >> well, george wallace an opposite. you have constitutional amendment that ultimately protect discrimination on the basis of race and someone's skn color. in george wallace's case he was clearly going against clearly defined constitutional principles. she is standing like martin luther king jr. and many others on the principle of conscience. he was, and he was standing for principles of justice. >> the opinion in the supreme court. 5-4 pin was based on the 14th amendment was it not. >> that is a joke that it baysed

on the 14th amendment. read the opinion. based on nothing in the constitution. nothing in the court's precedent. john roberts calls them five lawyers. >> john roberts was in the minority. the way the supreme court works sir, a majority decision, a 5-4 ruling by the supreme court. >> a 5-4 ruling. the supreme court, dred scott decision, they did it, forcefully sterilize them they have been horribly wrong throughout their history. that doesn't mean, and in fact, this is not even, kim davis' matter is not a direct challenge to the united states supreme court. all she is asking for is an aco accommodation. we can debate lack of authority or whichever way you want to come down on the 5-4 pin yu pin ---opinion. having the 5-4 pin yun. how can you accommodate her conscience. the dissenters saw this train wreck coming. two months from the decision we

have the first christian, person of faith and conscience in jail. think about that two months from a supreme court opinion you have a person sitting right now in this country in jail for what? a prize is nsoner of conscience? she may be behind bars, her con sthuns will remain free. i don't think the majority of american people will look at this and say this is the kind of america we want. surely we can accommodate kims and other people like her in religious convictions and conscience. >> there are people who will say around the country they want to accommodate the same-sex couples who would like to be marrieden the county and would not, would rather not wait? >> well, if you want to get a marriage license in fact the plaintiffs wanted they could drive 30 minutes in any direction. there are 130-some locations, 120 clerks.

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government. they have arrived. arwa damon is there. we believe, arwa has been able to get on one of the buses. i see you, arwa, what's the very latest? take a look at how packed this bus is. this is one of the ones thame s just arrived waiting to begin. everyone anticipates to be the journey toward the austrian border. a number of buses have gone past us. a lot of commotion, surrounding the debate. whether or not they should get on the buses. there was very widespread fear that the hungarian government was not necessarily taking them to the but instead taking them to the camp. they've sent a bus. test case. made it all the way to the border. now everyone else boarded the buses. chaos. people were smushing through the

doors, desperate to get on. they had been walking for eight, nine hours. they slept for a few hours in the field. just started to rain down a little bit. so this is the beginning of what they can only hope is going to be the potentially the last leg of their journey. they want to cross into austria going all the way to germany, john. >> one bus did get through. now there are others including the one you are on. headed to the border for these people. they believe they hope they're going to get into austria just to be clear after this, unbelievable ordeal of escaping syria and iraq. however they did that. sleeping in the train station. hiking for miles and miles and miles. they think this is the last leg? they hope it is. desperately hope it is. because they're so tired. they are emotionally and physically drained. the children are exhausted.

parents, nerves are absolutely frayed. because as you were saying, not only did they escape iraq and syria, they then risked their children's lives to try to make that treacherous journey across the mediterranean. this bus seems as if it is just about to start moving on its journey then as well. and we are moving. once it actually made it to the, to the greek island they then began walking through greece. in some cases, walking through macedonia, serbia, lucky, riding trains, buses, a lot of nights spent sleeping in the streets. sleeping in the forests. that especially hard on the children who really can't deal with seeing their children in this circumstance, john. so, yes there is that hope. because so many say hope is all they really have to cling to at this stage. this might be that last leg of the journey. that they will get to austria and germany.

>> arwa damon on a bus now that began moving in hungary. hopefully these people are heading to austria right now. a remarkable image, arwa to see the bus finally going. what happens when they get to austria. or germany. how will they set up a life? they will have to go into the system. bearing in mine. austria, germany are overwhelmed with the numbers they have already been receiving. there is a whole asylum application process. put into temporary refugee shelters. and then, eventually, at some point in time, they will start being able to send the kids to school. the adults will begin learning german or whatever language it is in the nation that they end up in. they will get jobs. restore the dignity they lost throughout the journey.

and they will hopefully be able to build a future. because the reason why so many of these families left, especially those with the kids and why they risked their kids lives it's because a future doesn't exist for them in their homeland. they don't have a chance there. yes, they got to turkey. yes, turkey is safe. but they can't build a life for their children in turkey. or in any of the other neighbors countries to syria and iraq. at that time they make the journey. because if they stay back in their homeland. they say the kids most certainly would have ended up dead. not just their physical security. it is securing a future and life. >> quickly. 20 second left. was there rejoicing when they got on the bus when it started moving. or are they just too exhausted at this point even for that? there is relief.

the rejoicing will come at the moment they go out of hungary and into austria, john. >> arwa damon for us on a bus right now with people hoping to got out of hungary into austria after a journey that simply, harrowing, death-defying, for them. in some cases, brothers, many have lost their lives on the journey. arwa damon, thank you so very much. coming up for us, 360 exclusive, justice department launches a fraud investigation involving billions of dollars in government contracts supposed to go to helping severely disabled get jobs.

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tonight, a 360 exclusive, federal program called ability one that uses taxpayer dollars to provide jobs to disabled people, the subject of an exclusive report here on 360, now in the cross hairs of the

department of justice. what could be just the first of many raids across the country took place this week in memphis at an unlikely location, goodwill industries, a multimillion dollar subcontractor with the federal program taking in millions of dollars supposely to hire the severely disabled. raiding offices of goodwill trying to find evidence that they're not. at stake $3.2 billion in tax money doled out by ability within which sources tell cnn is allege to be involved in a nationwide corruption scheme. here's cnn's senior investigative correspondent drew griffin. >> reporter: cnn cameras were on site at goodwill headquarters in memphis, tennessee wednesday as dozens of federal agents swarmed the parking lot. all part of a massive nationwide investigation into alleged fraud, insider dealing, and bid rigging on federal contracts.

contracts that are supposed to go to helping severely disabled get jobs. no one inside is talking. the person described to cnn as manager here led away to his car what comment. as cnn first reported in july, nearly 2.3 billion in government contracts earmarked to hire the severely disabled are at staevenlsteak. the investigation goes beyond goodwill in memphis. it is part of a nationwide probe into possibly dozens of government contractors who may be violating the law. the government agency that is in charge of awarding contracts, is called ability one. and the entire program is now under investigation by the justice department and several inspectors general. good will in memphis has multimillion contract with irs. veterans affairs and public services building agency. get an ability one contract, the

government requires 75% of the work be performed by people who are severely disabled. this former hiring manager says that the ability one contractor she useded to work for, the company would fill the tens of millions of dollars in contract with just about any one who walked in the door. >> you could say 100% of employees are severely disabled. >> correct. >> none of them are? >> right. >> you would have the can tract? >> there is knob check i-- ther nobody checking. >> this is going to come as a shock to them? >> john the raid took place searching for evidence, good will industries in memphis is within of the contractors across the country awarded federal contracts specifically to hire severely disabled and according to sources they're not. it's a lot of money too. $22 million to this memphis office alone since 2010. >> has goodwill responded? >> only that they're

cooperating. we heard nothing from the most important agency in all of this. ability one. the presidential commission supposed to be checking on disability hires. accord to our sources is alug talug -- allowing contracts to go to contractors noted ming the guidelines. more to come on almost every part of the country on this, john. >> drew griffin. thank you for joining us. that does it for us. thank you for watching. and "death row stories" starts now. on this episode of death row stories. a family is found brutally murdered. >> severity of the crime puts it on another level. >> an escaped convict is sentenced to death. just hours before his execution, a new defense team raises doubts about