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for a second marathon. >> it all starts with small steps. >> how many pile moos d you have in already? >> 80% of cardiac disease is preventble if we just go for a walk. people just take that first step, they will never look back. >> for more, go to c cnnheroes.com. >> see you back here tomorrow night. ac 360 starts right now. . >> listen to how dr. carson answered this question moments ago about what sets him apart from the gop front runner. >> the biggest thing is that i realize where my success has come from.
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and i don't, in anyway, deny my faith in god. and i think that probably is a big difference. >> he made those remarks at a campaign rally in orange county, california. cnn, traling with him, joins us now. so you and ben carson said this. i mean, did the crowd interpret it as a jab at don trump? >> well, this actually took place backstage just before this big event where there are thousands of people here to see ben carson. this is the first time he's really taken the gloves off. it was false nating that he went after trump as inauthentic with religion. i think we have a little more of that sound here. >> by humility and a fear of the lord, our richest and honor in life, and that's a very big part of who i am.
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i don't get that impression with him. maybe i'm wrong. >> it's striking. up until this point, i haven't taken jabs at each other. it's trieking would go after trump in this way. when so many of the other candidates have been afraid to go after him. there is an opportunity here for ben carson to potentially consolidate evangelicals behind him. a lot of the people i've talked to him in the crowd here were feeling like trump was inauthentic in that way. and they don't like his answers on religion so far. so there may be an opportunity for carson here. >> it's interesting, it's obviously not worked out very well for rick perry. i appreciate you being with us. the iran nuclear deal at a big
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washington rally today. and his political bromance with the rival he shared the stage with, ted cruz. he and senator palin speaking out against the deal that could break up in a couple of days. >> when it comes to republican competitors. why did you have this bromance? >> well, it is a little bit of a
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bromance. i like him. he's backed me. >> cruz is the one who made the first move. >> donald trump is a friend. >> while other republican 2016 candidates slammed the billionaire front runner. cruz courts him. as a result, trump follows the trump rule. he'll do the same. >> senator cruz has been so nice to me. i can't hit him. >> bhied have you been so loving towards donald trump? >> i like donald trump. and i'm glad that he's energized and excited a lot of people. i also think that he's been tremendously beneficial to our campaign. >> because, cruz says, trump has force it had gop 2016 debate on illegal immigration. a topic that he cares about. at first blush, cruz's trump love seems self defeating.
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gop voter who is may otherwise support cruz. >> how is he not taking votes? people say oh,there's an outsider. donald trump. not the guy with senator in front of his name. >> i'm a big fan of sum sue's victim. framing the argument. >> you're fighting on the same terrain? >> well, with dochbld trump, right now, the people supporting donald trump are looking for someone who would stand up to the washington cartel. >> cruz has a more practical reason for liking donald trump. he gets more attention. it's why cruz inviolated trump to this rally. >> he actually asked me to come along here. we've certainly got a big crowd. >> it helped him in the last gop debate. >> 24 million americans watched that first debate. millions of eyeballs watch that had debate.
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our national support doubled. >> and unlike other candidates, cruz has a lot of cash. his supporters will return cruz's love. that's where trump draw it is line in this unusual relace ship. >> if it ever came to it and you did drop out of the race, would you encourage your supporters to drop out and back ted cruz? >> i'm not dropping out of anything. i never drop out. >> how long can ted cruz afford to be in this bromance? he can do well with those who like trump's message. but aren't really sure that
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there's a conservative message. he's a consistent conservative. that seems to be a bit of a dog whistle, if you will. it's kind of looked at this in the long road on the political calendar. as you say, at the end of the day, there is only one man likely to be standing in the aents conservative part of the field. cruz is just kind of going the distance. maybe the fact that he was so nice to him he could benefit him in the end. >> thank you perspective. now, cnn commentator, she's former communications director for senator ted cruz. she's a trump supporter and former political director. also joining us is republican strategist rick wilson. trump has said that he's been hoping for dr. carson to really hit him at some point.
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what dr. xvson said about donald trump raising questions about his faith, is that the hit that trump was waiting for? >> well, it happened, regardless of how it came. i'm really disappointed by the decision that ben carson made here. that is such a personal faith and to try to say that my faith is bigger than yours, it doesn't play right. here's the thing. i think september is going to be a huge month for christian voters to decide which candidate they may back. we had the fight over the iran deal. we had the on going fight over marriage. and attacking another candidate, rather than engaging on those three major issues, i think, is an enormous mistake. >> i want to ask you about it. but i want to play about what dr. carson said. again, the second part of it when he was following up his initial remark. >> by humility, and the fear of
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>> people respected that and find that to be an appealing characteristic. the fact that he's noted that don trump's sudden add ration of the bible seems about a mill meeter thick. and his professed fait seems to have really perked up during election season. i think it's certainly done in a way that emphasizes that ben carson's faith is a huge part of his background. a huge part of his upbringing and a huge part of his success. he feels very comfortable doing. even saying it's a pretty hard hit doesn't come across in the same way. >> jeffrey,do you agree with
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that? he went about this is certainly different than rick perry did. did you see trump responding with guns ablazing? >> he might, sure, sure. he might. i mean, he does do the counter punch. so he has considerable support for the evangelical movement. i would say this about evangelical. i would say this about every individual voting group. there are more than just that individual concern. evangelicals have mortgages to pay. they need jobs. they are concerned about iran yan nukes. they're concerned about illegal immigration. they're not one dimensional figures. i think at the end of the day will be someone who feels across the board to a wide collection
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of people with common concerns, not just one particular con serp. >> i guess donald trump could respond in a way that would win on two fronts. one, he would say he believes in turning the other cheek. but those who wanted a bible passage from him, or bible reference. >> well, look. the art of the deal is not part of the topography. but i think that trump, you know, is going to find that his supporters are going to, you know, carry the attack to ben carson. he's galvanized a set of supporters the minute someone comes up. they become history's greatest monster. trump's response to carson will be interesting. she and carson are the more
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antiestablishment, antiwashington move. >> one other thing. historically, when we see this kind of things between a leading candidate and the primary situation, sometimes they wind up on the same ticket. kennedy and johnson, reagan and bush. hillary clinton wound up as secretary of state. at the end of the day, they all manage to get together as a rule. >> there's obviously a great deal of strategy that goes into both sides of this alliance. who is benefitting, do you think, the most from it. >> well, that's a really interesting question. they both get such a huge benefit. ted cruz has the appeal of getting donald trump there and also showing that you can play nice with other presidential
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candidates, which is huge for both of them. but, also, donald trump gets the benefit of encage in a legislative issue. i'd like to see more get engaged on the actual mechanical fights against the obama administration and are currently being fought in the united states capitol. i think it's very bep official to both of them. >> you see them as a natural team. is there a risk to take votes away from each other. >> i think that -- there's a potential here for an alliance of sorts. and i would call your attention in october of 2013, the american spectator for which i'm a contributing editor, had their
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big fall dinner in washington. and the two attractions by chance were donald trump and ted cruz. it was pretty clear that they really hit it off. their separate speeches are on youtube. ted cruz is talking about a game show. it was quite a remarkable thing. i think that was the beginning of what you might say is a beautiful friendship. >> quickly, before we go, steven colbert's late show. i want to play a bit of that for you. >> i will turn the national mall into a luxury golf course. and china will suspect that. i promise to put meat loaf on the $10 bill and send a message that this great nation will never turn down for one.
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>> so, i mean, i guess the supporters of gem bush say anything that showcases jeb bush in a different light is a good thing. in your view, does this kind of thing matter? >>. >> i think the fact that steven colbert captured 6.5 million viewers matters. if you're any presidential candidate. especially since the other candidates aren't like donald trump. they can't snap their fingers. so you take advantage of those things. and, you know, i have to tell you, it strikes me as very funny that the lines colbert and his writers put together there, you could imagine the same things coming out of donald trump's mouth with no sense of irony what so ever. >> and naturally, not scripted. >> naturally.
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i would bom the hell out of those oil fields. >> he favors renewed diplomatic relations where cuba. he insists there, along with everywhere else, the u.s. is making bad deals. >> but i know the best negoti e negotiators in the world. believe me, folks, we will do very, very well. >> and, of course, there is china. china is accused of makingoff with iraqi oil so many times and video has become an internet sensation. >> china. china. china. >> mind you, he's not guilty blaming the chinese. >> they have tough, smart people. it's time that we have tough, smart people. we're not guiloing to be able to much longer the way we're going now. >> still, the depth of trump's
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knowledge is unclear. >> do you expect -- hard add min strated by us. >> no, the iran revolutionary. the bad guys. >> trump later said he misheard for his campaign. for as much as trump said about foreign afare fairs, how much does he really know. anderson. >> . >> it's interesting. donald trump talks about taking the oil from iraq. about bringing in oil companies, bringing in soldiers to surround the oil fields, take the oil and bomb the hell out of isis. every military official i've talked to has said, or former
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military official said this doesn't make any sense. yet, you look at the polls, they say donald trump. >> that's because he's entertaining. he's really a bully. that's what he is. he's a bully who says things that he thinks so you believed great. and people who don't exam what he's saying, let's turn those parts of syria to glass. would that be a good policy? no. but there would be a lot of people who would say oh, yeah that's a real good idea. >> it eegts essentially a reality tv approach. >> trump said he would find his
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general douglas mcarthur in the pack. he would surround himself with a strong team of advisors. some are reluctant to admit that they might be talking with trump's campaign. what do we make of him on foreign policy? >> well, i think his appeal is foreign policy. and that is the muscularity that he rep zens. the strength that he represents. the rise of donald trump to me is basically an indictment of the political class. not only political politics, but some of us in the media. exude strength. now, i do think the standard by which he's being judged by the public will go up. and he cannot continue at this level very long. as i think he does. >> what do you make of this? again, in this recent poll, we
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were asked who would do the best job in terrorism. overwhelmingly, they said trump. he does seem to be a candidate that certainly gop voters in iowa trust to handle such things. >> right noi, it's not about his policy statements. there aren't many. but it's more of a feeling, as dafd was saying. that this was somebody who was saying is impatient, which a lot of americans are. is angry, which a lot of americans are. he speaks to people's anger and impatient shens.
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not only in the republican party this year, but you look at bernie sabders and the way he's showing against hillary clinton, it's the same way in the democratic party. >> if you look at all of the gop field, you would say lind zi gram has the hands on reserve. but he, you know, has obviously been in center for a long time. and, yet, he's not doing well at all in the poll? >> no, it's that tough guy bullying attitude. all part of the same picture. i'm tough. i'm really going to drive hard bargains. i'm going to fire people. you're fired. why doesn't he just say to the president russia, you're fired. this is deadly serious is it true. but we are a long way from the election. >> david, you've worked in white houses for democratic presidents.
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look, i may not know the details. i hire really good people who do and i'm going to surround myself with a really smart team. and that's how i'm going to deal with that stuff. >> well, here's the deal. that can work on many occasions. but the problem being president, the dilemma of being president, is the decisions that come to you are often like a another-49 or 51-49 decision. and your advisors are split.
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>> sts interesting. part of foreign policy is an area where the president can exert probably the most unilateral action. >> he can. but, you know, presidents will tell you that congress has too much authority. and i think when you talk to voters, what they say is, you know, we like this idea of checks and balances. we like the idea that congress can have some input into an iran nuclear deal. so i think somebody, for example, like domd trump, i think voters might say to themselves, you know what, if you have don trump as president, and you've got a congress, a congress can provide a check. i don't think we're anywhere near there yet.
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we want somebody who's completely outside of the political system. and whether that's growing to shift as we move into the pry marys, we'll have to see. but the guys right now doesn't seem to be the die nastic candidates of hillary clinton and jeb bush. it seems to be something toe totally different. >> thanks. quick programming neat. tomorrow here on cnn, two big interviews. don trump will be a guest on "new day" 7:00 p.m. eastern. we'll talk to jay tapper on the lead. breaking news,with the lake county coroner has released new information about the officer who was slain in the north area north of chicago. another car has been hit by a bullet. ♪ lease the 2015 rc 350 for $429 a month for 36 months. see your lexus dealer.
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led to any arrest. tonight, there's some new information from the coroner. so we may be closer to learning exactly how the officer died, correct? >> yes, anderson. the chicago tribune quoting the lake county coroner in saying that lunt glenowitz died from one devil sdating gunshot. he's not expanding on where this gunshot actually hit the officer. if there were other wounds or even manner of death. the coroner being very careful saying that he doesn't know where that gunshot came from. where that bullet came from and saying, "right now, all unnatural deaths are up for suggestion, that means homicide, suicide, accident, undetermined." now, i've called the coroner repeatedly. he's not returned my phone calls. but i've got to say, anderson, in this particular case, but the coroner and investigators have been very tight lipped about a lot of details in in this investigation.
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>> there was dna that found at the scene that did not belong to this aufrgs. is that correct? >> that's correct. now, i've got to give you some context here. from covering many, many crime scenes, i can say that a few things really stabd out. first of all, they were looking from the get go for three suspects. that geographic search, door-to-door, with, you know, guns drawn, stopped very early, anderson. also, we've got information from commander falanco who's in charge of this irn vest gags. during the press conference, he corrects himself calling it a murder and then saying, "i'm sorry: a killing." and then you've got the surveillance videos. that were so important to the investigation. they had the three people of interest in them. well, after looking through them, after the f.b.i. pieced all of these videos together, they said that they looked at the three individuals. they spoke to them and they are no longer persons of interest.
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stand out, anderson, because of the lack of details that we're getting from thorpties in this particular case. >> and just finally, they have not -- so the coroner didn't say or specify how close the gun would have been to this officer when the shot was fired, correct? >> you're absolutely right. in this art kal, the coroner, talking to the chicago tribune, it pret it much just says that. that there was one devastating gunshot wound. he doesn't get into the details as to whether or how if there were other. we do know from investigators, however, is that the gun was found very close to the officer that's as much as they told us so far. >> breaking news as well in arizona where another bullet has hit another car. the latest in the recent string of these incidents. people clearly on edge.
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police trying to figure out if there is a pattern here. what do you know, stephanie? >> well, when you look at this, you're talking about 11 indents in 11 days. we know 8 of them happened on an 8 block stretch on interstate 10 which runs right through the heart of phoenix. it's been that downtown area that this has happened. no one has been majorly hurt or is dead. you're randomly shooting at cars that are driving down this high wrai. she was treated at the scene and that is it. we know of these 11, eight of them have been on interstate ten and another three right near two other related highways. so, still, they're looking at this area and trying to figure out who might be behind this. the timing of all of these shootings has been really random. it's not happening at the same time every day. >> do we know if the same weapon was used? do officials have any leads?
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>> they do say that they have some evidence that they are looking into. they're keeping some of the parts close to the vest. they don't want to tip off the person who is doing this. they do say they're looking into ballistics, as well, to try to figure that out, as well. they're looking into surve surveillance video that may be around in the area. but right now, they do believe it's random because of the fact that all of the people who have been driving these vehicles have no connection to each other. they're saying that there's nothing to link these people together. >> lastly, these incidents, they have multiple times over the course of the next -- the last couple of weeks. from -- just to be clear, it's -- authorities are not saying yes thr related. they're still investigating. >> right. they're still investigating them. but keep in mind, this is happening as recently as four hours ago. this is just a shooting in arizona. there is one at 11:00 local as well. this is still happening on going
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just this afternoon. so that shows you that this is something that they're trying to pin down and there's multiple organizations that are working with these officials to try to find out who this person is. they believe somebody knows something. >> or multiple people. stefny, appreciate. it. thank you. coming um, a teenager thrown in jail and put on the sex offenders registry for having sex with a 14-year-old girl. the girl later admitted that she had lied to him about her age. now, zach anderson's faith made a changing and updating on the case. i'll speak with zach anderson next. ah, give me a problem and e got the solution. well, we have 30 years of customer records. our cloud can keep them safe and accessible anywhere. my drivers don't have time to fill out forms. tablets. keep it all digital. we're looking to double our deliveries. our fleet apps will find the fastest route. oh, and your boysenberry apple scones smell about done. ahh, you're good. i like to bake. add new business services with at&t and get up to $500 in total savings.
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what's possible when you have high-speed internet at home? the library never closes. it makes it so much better to do homework when you're at home. internet essentials from comcast. helping to bridge the digital divide. welcome back. a life changing update to a story we brought you last month. a judge has vacated the sentence of a teenager in indiana who admitted she lied about her age. zach anderson was sentenced to 09 day t 0 days in jail, and 25 years on the sex offender registry. >> reporter: here's what happened. zach went on a racy dating app
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called hot or not hoping to meet a girl. he did. they had sex. and that's when the problems began. >> how old did she say she was? >> she had told me that she was 17. >> but she lied. she was ablg which youly 14. by law, he had committed a sex crime. he was arrested and convicted. now he's on the same list as child molesters and his parents say that's a cloos sal mistake. >> when you heard those words that your son was a sex offender, what was your reaction? it's a blatant lie. it's not true. it doesn't even fit ur lifestyle. even the girl's mother appeared in court. testifying that she didn't want zach labeled as a sex offender
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because "he's really not." we've also obtained this letter that the girl in question gave zach's family. i'm sorry i didn't dell you my age, she writes. it kills me every day knowing you are going through hell and i'm not. i want to be in trouble. >> did it ever enter your mind at any time she could be under age? >> no, not al all. >> and was the sex consensual. >> yeah. >> but even if the girl admits she lied about her age and the sex was consensual, it's no a defense in the eye of current sex offender laws. that's why the judge and prosecutor in zach's case didn't lets him off the hook. judge dennis wiley angry that zach had used the internet to meet a girl. that seems to be part of our culture now. meet, have sex, sigh nor ra. totally inappropriate behavior.
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there is no excuse for this what so ever. >> that same judge has now vacated the sentence. a new judge will be in charge of resentencing. >> the. >> yeah, i mean, i can't imagine what this whole experience has been like for you. and for the rest of your family. >> it's been pretty stressful, to say the least. the whole thing started in january, pretty much. you couldn't talk to anyone under 17. you couldn't even live in your parents home. how difficult has that been?
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>> i'm just now becoming an adult. i i'm just turning 20. it was raelgly hard because i'm really good with computers. i've been building them and i know the ins and outings of them. and i mean, the fact that this girl's mother defended your son in court, does it make it even more painful for you? that even she couldn't influence the court? >> yeah, it deft nitly does. everyone since the ruling in the last two days, we've been in contact. she's contacted us about the ruling. there's still some con tablgt. so, yeah, it's still hard to believe that that didn't have any influence on the decision. >> i know the girl wrote a letter to you apologizing saying she wished she was in trouble.
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did that give you any comfort? i haven't actually been able to completely read the relater. because, like, legal reasons, i wasn't allowed to read it. it was kind of comfortable. >> your son is not totally free 23r this. this is really just the beginning of the next phase, right? that's correct. it's far from over. >> so what happens next? >> friday, we have a bond hearing at one:00. the same judge that sentenced our son, even though we did get a new judge for a new sentence, we still have the same judge on friday who's going to set the bond conditions. appreciate it. both of you being with us. coming up, an up day on the crisis in europe.
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secretary of state john kerry has admitted to taking in more refugees. in a tur kish port, refugees cramming $1300 to try to cross the agean sea. can actually be seen tripping and kicking. >> it's a shocking video that has garnered attention from around the world. as waves of desperate migrants sprint, a camera woman appears to trip a man. he falls ground on top of the boy and screams in disbelief. the woman also kicks other migrants including another young girl. now, the camera woman is out of a job.
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it offers news from a nationalist perspective. the station said the camera operator behavior was completely unacceptable. her employment will be terminated. cnn cannot ind pen den lit confirm her name. so we're not identifying her. but thousands took to a shame wall to criticize the woman they believe is responsible. you have a live, yet this is what you do? shame on you. she is running for her life. you are destroying her life and you're earning money for it. is she human? and that photographer should be charged with assault. criminal act. criminal charges are, indeed, possible. the woman being shamed on line has not commented.
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