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s -- can say these are the 11 candidates. paul, huckabee, cruz, carson, trump, bush, walker, carly fiorina, john kasich, and chris christie. five others debating aefrl earl. here are the republican leaders, donald trump topping 30% for the very first time. dr. carson the only other candidate in double digits. so, very busy hour ahead. a lot to talk about on the democratic side where the cnn/orc poll numbers have come out. chief national correspondent john king has them. let's look at democratic candidates. where do they stand? >> let me bring up the numbers. bad news, bad night for the clinton campaign. nationally lead at 37%. see vermont, bernie sanders, 27%. vice president, 20%. martin o'malley, 3%. and 37% now, where hillary clinton is. talked last hour how donald trump is a growth stock. hillary clinton, 58% a couple months ago. lost 20 points.

bernie sanders, plateaued at 27% there. vice president up a little bit. if you are in the clinton kachl pain. national numbers, a seen of trouble. warning sign. sanders again on the rise at the moment. joe biden not so bad. if you look at hillary clinton support. here is a problem for her. 31% of democratic men support hillary clinton. the gender gap is playing to her advantage. support, 41% of democratic women sam. port clinton. very interesting divide in the democratic race. among those who describe themselves as liberal. 23% support clinton. half of those who say moderate. bernie sanders support. he gets nearly half of those who say they're liberals and 15% of those who are mid roderate. interesting philosophical debate. within the party, as this plays out. >> the poll took a look at how the candidates would fare against republican rivals. >> interesting numbers. gentlemen biden. he considers his choice. if you ask democrats who they think will win the nomination.

55% say hillary clinton. joe biden is up to 22% in the number. when you do general election match ups, clinton or biden versus trump. clinton ties trump now. joe biden would beat him by 10 points in the new poll. how about jeb bush. hillary clinton would lose by two points. statistical tie. losing by two points. joe biden can say i am beating jeb by eight points now in the national polls. and versus ben carson, the leading republican now when it comes to john rgeneral election ups, clinton, 2%. biden, 3. joe biden can say i beat him. the person, republicans think will win, if not donald trump. the first challenge win the nomination. if you are biden making an assessment, makes you smile. >> bernie sanders, want to ask you about. he surged ahead of hillary clinton in iowa for the first time. right? >> let's lack ook at the number. a different mod approximately.

bernie sanders, 41% in iowa. according to the new poll up from 33% lars mst month. hillary clinton. is going down. bernie sanders coming up. in the first caucus state. remember iowa where it fell apart for hillary clinton in 2008. liberal caucus goers in iowa. 55% of iowa democrats, describe themselves as very liberal. 59% for bernie sanders. 39% for hillary clinton. liberals are for bernie sanders. and one quick number from the iowa poll. candidates, honest and trust worthy. 64% say that about hillary clinton. 86% say that ta bout bernie sanders. 91%, joe biden. >> john, stay there. want to bring in gloria borger, chief clinton supporter and super pac, paul begala. not sure that is your official

title. >> need a card. >> vice president biden taped an interview airing to night on late show with stephen colbert, the vice president once again emfa size ee emphasized the emotional impact of running for president. want to read a quote. what he said. i don't think any man or woman should run for president unless number one they know exactly why they would want to be president, number two they can look at folks and say i promise you you have my whole heart, my soul, energy and passion to do this the i would be lying if i said i knew i was there. what do you make of that? >> i think that is the honest joe biden. i think what joe biden is saying to people privately what he said to stephen colbert tonight. a man whose heart has been broken. his son just died. his son bo biden was supposed to carry the political torch for the family. be the next jgeneration of bide maybe become president himself.

his life was cut short by cancer. joe biden is torn apart by it. his wife is torn apart by it. the family is going through huge emotional turmoil now. he looks at numbers. he is talking to people. he is talking to advisers. he feels like he is getting the respect he deserves because people are talking about him as potential presidential candidate. but he is really hurting. and in reading this, i thought, you know, i don't think he is going to do it. >> john, when would he have to makedecision? >> he will make a decision end of the month. first debate. october 13. joke in the inner biden circle. announce you are getting into the race and show up for the debate. it is a jek. it is a joke. he has to signal first of october or second. he will make the decision. agreen with everything gloria said. when you listen publicly pulling about from where he was a week or two ago. i talked to some one in the room

with him when he talks about it tonight. the decision has not been made. >> paul, hillary clinclinton, da couple of points. bernie sanders down a couple points as well. what do you make if the vice president doesn't get in. what happens? >> right now the vice president in the polling data, seems to take a bit from both. sanders and secretary clinton. i think gloria is spot on. this is a man who has just been through hell and has been crushed and heartbroken. and he is a friend of mine. i love the guy. he is beloved across the democratic party. when i watch the tape of him in pittsburgh. at the steel workers labor day rally. boy, i thought there is, there is the joe biden who has run twice before. and he could really do it again. he had the that passion, energy. you read the quotes the you wonder. i just think, i think he has been honest. there is probably some moments where he feels like he has got this in me. and then there are moments where he doesn't the i think all of those, love him. care about him.

a lot of space to make whatever decision is best for him and his family. >> how does the clinton campaign stop this downward slide? >> well, couple things. seems to me they have three options. been through a lot of campaigns. props. option one is panic, freak out. fire everybody. not a good idea. almost never works. >> how you got your job in the first clinton campaign. >> little early. >> option two, to kind of, you know, mimic donald trump. run like you are in u.s. i ing -- if ugly was a crime, donald trump's hair would get the death penalty. that's not hillary. can't pull that off. and weather with humility, humanity, with grace. try to push it back to the ideas. we have all been covering the e-mail stuff, and mr. trump. she has put out really good policy papers on cleaning up the dirty money in politic thousands, battling addiction, on, making college more affordable. she need to get our attention back to that.

she could do it. that's her challenge. as a candidate. not only our fault. her challenge as a candidate to bring attention back to those things. >> gloria, any time there is noise surrounding donald trump. pretty much always. even mr. this week. does that create a diversion for hillary clinton opportunity to improve her campaign. >> mana from heaven for hillary clinton. she doesn't have to apologize, not apologize for what she did with her e-mail account. while at the state department. what donald trump said about carly fiorina today was something hillary clinton was like they teed up the ball for her. she could hit it out of the park. talking about the candidate who insults women. she gets, the gender issue going again. where she is comfortable. and more of herself. so, yeah, any time donald trump is in trouble, she has got to love it. >> that's where there is real erosion for her in the poll. with women. need to dominate with democratic women the not duoing it.

>> want out of the way to stress, she is a moderate. bernie sanders, a progressive. both use the word. a difference when it comes to democratic primary voters. >> hillary clinton in ohio when she said that. thinking general election already. win ohio, deny the republicans the presidency. a great point. because remember, barack obama got to her left in iowa in 2008. principally on the iraq war. bernie sanders to her left now. has to be carful in describing herself as a moderate. doesn't anger the liberals. i make a broader point to where paul was. how important the republican debates. next, cnn debate next week, donald trump with the front-runner wec will see mayhe. the first democratic debate critical for clinton, i am the candidate. i amount candidate you want to send into the general election. we want to keep the house. history says we won't the i am a stronger general election candidate. up there against sanders, o'malley, and senator webb and the likes, chaffee, or joe biden

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california. cnn hosting the debate. jake tapper moderating. new poll numbers showing mr. trump widened his lead in the republican field. 32%. gain of eight points since august. the first republican candidate to break the 30% threshold. now this morning on cnn's "new day" mr. trump talked to chris cuomo in a wide ranging interview. chris joins me tonight. >> fascinating interview you had. we will play the whole thing. how did you think it went? >> how do i think it went? kind of like when you are doing hurricane coverage. at the time you are just happy to make it through. then afterwards, people will tell you what the event was look for them. as you know very well. you are all learning all the time as you see the polls. donald trump is the gop leader. and in the new polls, his lead is bigger than ever. so we wanted to sit down and ask the man at the front of the race right now why does he think he is winning, why does he think he can go all the way.

can you hear us? >> i can. hi, chris. >> good. there's a lot to get to. there's a new cnn/orc poll. you are aware of it, other than you don't have more than 32% of the vote. how do you explain the numbers? what do they mean to you? >> i think they mean people are tired of politicians that make deals like the deal we just made with iran, which is one of the worst negotiated transactions i've ever seen in my life. and i'm not just talking about deals between countries, i'm talking any kind of a contract. it's one of the worst deals i've ever seen. it's the most one-sided, lopsided disgraces. and we should not give the money. there are ways to get out of giving the money. i heard some legal maneuvers that they should play because to give them $150 billion and they go around saying that israel won't be here in 25 years, and we're not going to deal with the united states after this great deal that we just made to sign. we won't have anything to do with the united states. by the way, the people that were negotiating the deal with other countries, they are going to

benefit. you look at what they are doing, they are over in iran right now splitting up all the money and taking a lot of the money that we're giving. so i think people are tired of that. they are tired of sergeant bergdahl. we get bergdahl and they get five killers they have wanted for ten years. they are tired of trade deals with japan and china. they are tired. that won't happen with me and won't happen with me. i'll turn the tables completely. >> that wind up being the test. are you right that people are tired, obviously, every poll you are in proves that. not to say that you are a protest candidate because in our recent poll, cnn poll, they say why they vote for you? 71% say they like your positions issues, not because they don't like everyone else. so you are right about what people want in the gop and independent voters as proved out in the most recent cnn poll. now the next level of analysis is, can you deliver on what you say? because what you say sounds good. the iran deal is the worst deal of all time. a growing number of people who

are studying the deal don't agree with you. the global community doesn't agree with you. iran doesn't agree with you. they didn't want to give up their plutonium abilities and their time lines. they didn't want to reduce their stores the way they did, but they had to give up things to get what they wanted. colin powell, a man whom i think you respect, we have to do the iran deal. there's no better alternative. they were on a super highway to getting a weapon. sounds good to say the deal sucks. sounds good to say you'll do better because you do deals, but can you deliver on that when as you just said the ayatollah said he's not talking to you anymore. >> well, let me just tell you in terms of the deal itself, just look at aspects of the deal. 24-day inspection period. ridiculous. >> but you have none now. >> just let me finish talking. okay, you just went. i mean what are you making a statement or asking me a question? >> please, go ahead. >> no, i'm giving context to the

situation. >> before you get to the 24 days, the clock doesn't start ticking for a long time. it's a whole process. number one in terms of inspections. number two, they do their own inspections in certain very important cases. so they are going to self-inspect. anybody that trusts iran to self-inspect is not such a smart person. you look at the prisoners, we get our prisoners back, a little thing, very important. just the psychology of it. they kept four prisoners. why wouldn't we get them back? you look at all the different elements of this deal. why are we giving them $150 billion? then take a look at the fact they are fighting us in yemen. they are fighting us all over the place and terrorizing everybody. they are going in and taking over iraq. i hope you know that. i told you that was going to happen in 2003 when you were actually on another network doing very well. but i said that that was going to happen in 2003. i said the worst thing you can do is go and attack iraq because you're going to destabilize the middle east. because you have two powerful

gods, they were almost the same, we destroyed one of them, but guess what? iran and isis are getting the oil and iran is taking over iraq. as you're sitting there right now, they are meeting. and with all the money we've spent, we lost $2 trillion and thousands of lives, thousands of lives, and all the wounded warriors who i love all over the place, iran is now taking over iraq. and the oil. by the way, iraq has the second largest oil reserves in the world. they are taking over iraq and taking over the oil. and what do we get out of it? you know who the beneficiaries of iraqi oil is? china. china is getting the oil. and you know who the biggest beneficiary, if you look at afghanistan, very rich in minerals? china. we are on one side of a mountain fighting in afghanistan. china has excavators on the other side making out and not doing anything. >> you look at china -- >> that's why when people ask, i wonder why trump's poll numbers are skyrocketing, that's why. that's not going to happen if i'm running things, chris.

it won't happen up and you know why? the world will like us better. >> china stays russia. russia stays russia. china stays china. india says india. they all want to do business with iran and were not in favor of sanctions. the same with many european partners. >> that's called leadership. >> but what does that mean, leadership? >> you want to be able to make a real deal. i'm all for a deal, just so you understand. i understand the power of nuclear. i had an uncle who was a professor at m.i.t. he fully understood. he used to tell me things that are incredible. that was a long time ago. but i'm all for the deal. you can't make a bad deal and we went begging for this deal. we look like a bunch of beggars. we were begging for this deal. >> you also say in an op-ed, many are celebrating as being well-reasoned about the iran deal and there's some thoughtful items in that. people should read it. but you push very hard on the fact that i get those -- as soon as i get to be president, i'm

getting back the four hostages. you must know they are and were trying hard to get the hostages back. >> i don't believe they were trying very hard. i don't think it was. >> we don't have any proof to the contrary. >> when they asked kerry about the hostages, he said we didn't want to discuss the hostages because we didn't want to complicate the negotiation. how ridiculous is that? he made that statement. and obama, your friend over at cbs, made the same statement he said, we didn't want to complicate the negotiations. now, what is the big deal? first of all, the first day, the first hour, the first minute, the first question should have been hostages. we want our hostages back. >> would you scrap the whole deal over that? would you have left the table? >> initially absolutely. because that would have shown what happened. when you didn't get the hostages back, that set a bad table. you call the deal like setting a table.

that set the table incorrectly. what you do is you go and -- you can convince him. by the way, the right message would have said, you don't want them, nobody cares about them over in iran. over here it sends a great signal in we get our hostages back. i think you could probably end up making a deal. >> i'm saying we have every reason to believe the people at the table that they said that. i'm saying -- >> we would have gotten the hostages back. kerry said he didn't even want to talk about the hostages. he didn't want to complicate the negotiations, chris. >> i understand what you're saying. but i think it's a little different than that. i think that it was a topic of conversation. they didn't want to balance the entire deal on the hostages. >> they didn't read "the art of the deal." they never will. the persians have been great negotiators. they are laughing in iran right now at how stupid we are. >> they were just getting started. ahead more of chris' interview with donald trump, he is no longer playing nice with ben carson and has more to say about carly fiorina as well.

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in the new polling out, ben carson gained ten points. at 19%. second to donald trump. mr. trump says that he doesn't attack unless other as take him first. yesterday, dr. carson made the first move questioning in his own quiet way, trump's awe then tis t -- authenticity. until then, trump had only good things to say.

clearly the honeymoon is over. here is part two of chris cuomo's interview. ben carson, he's also making a lot of traction. he's feeling good about himself, enough that he's coming at you. he is a man of faith, everybody knows that, it's a cornerstone of his existence and certainly is motivation to run. >> i don't know that. i had not heard that. i have known of ben carson for a long time and never heard faith was a big thing until just recently when he started running. so i don't know about that and ben carson's faith. of all of a sudden he becomes the great religious figure. i don't think he is a great religious figure. i saw him yesterday quoting on humility and it looked like he memorized it two minutes before he made the quote. don't tell me about ben carson. >> but ben carson is coming at you too. he says -- >> he's starting to hit me so i hit back. i only hit back when i get hit. ben carson, you're talking about his faith, excuse me, chris, go back to look at his past. go back to look at his views on abortion and see where he stands.

talk about abortion, go back to look at his views on abortion. now all of a sudden he gets on very low key, frankly he looks like he makes bush look like the energizer bunny. >> strong words. >> he's got a lot of people pushing him. but ben carson, you look at his faith and i think you're not going to find so much. and you look at his views on abortion, which were horrendous. and that's, i think, why i'm leading with all the evangelicals. as you know in your poll, number one, i'm leading ben carson by a lot. you say, oh, ben carson is surging. well, i'm almost double his numbers. >> absolutely. i'm saying he came out of nowhere is all i'm saying. he's not a big celebrity. people didn't know about him. >> i only bring this up, chris, because i saw him hitting me yesterday. he's questioning my faith. i happen to be a great believer in god and great believer in the bible. >> he is definitely question your faith. >> who is he to question my faith when i am -- he doesn't even know me. i've met him a few times. but i don't know ben carson.

he was a doctor, perhaps an okay doctor, by the way, you can check that out, too. we're not talking about a great -- he was an okay doctor. >> i don't know about okay doctor. he was the first man to separate conjoined twins. >> he's a doctor and hired one nurse. he's going to end up being the president of the united states? but for him to criticize me on my faith is absolutely -- for him to read from the bible in his memory, it looked like he memorized it two minutes before going on stage. >> do you think you are more a man of faith than he is? than ben carson is? >> -- ben carson is not going to be the next president of the united states. i can tell you that. >> i cannot quote him. i can say i'm a man of faith. i don't know enough about ben carson. but if you look at his past, which i've done, he was not a big man of faith. all of a sudden he's become this man of faith. and he was heavy into the world of abortion and he was a doctor. and take a look at the hospitals where he worked.

he was a doctor, check out the past, and see. all of a sudden he's, oh, he's totally anti-abortion. well, if you look back, you will find he's a very much different ben carson. one other thing, he shouldn't be questioning my faith because number one, i'm leading with the evangelicals. i'm protestant and presbyterian. i have great relationships with the people in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, and he shouldn't be questioning my faith. you know why? because he knows nothing about me. i've met him a couple times. >> maybe you should get together. we'll move to another topic. you had a "there he goes again" moment. first it was rosie and megan, now carly fiorina. they have you in "rolling stone" magazine, you're making fun of the way she looks. why do you talk about the way women look so much? it's not presidential. >> here's another one. >> you said, "look at that face." you said look at that face. >> i will say nice things about you so he says nice things about people. >> i'll take it. >> the fact is that carly

fiorina has had a terrible past. she was fired viciously from hewlett-packard. the -- >> but then you should say that. >> from yale business school, a highly respected man, jeffrey sodenfeld, wrote a paper that was one of the worst papers on ceos. she goes down as one of the worst ever. the company practically -- cratered. excuse me, chris, wait. thousands of jobs gone, stock price gone. still hasn't recovered. a total disaster. still hasn't recovered. they are trying hard, but she was a disaster ceo. she had a company before that called lucent, which in my opinion, in my memory was a worse catastrophe than hul hewlett-packard. she then gets fired from hewlett-packard and runs for the senate against somebody that could have been beaten easily, she loses in a landslide and now runs for president. now, when i said that and "the rolling stone" article has moments of beauty and great

and i did like the pictures, one of the few magazines, where i liked the pictures. the writer called me and said, i wrote this story and he said, jan winters screwed it up, they added a lot of stuff that i -- a lot of garish stuff, that i think is disgusting. but they added that. excuse me, wait, so the statement on carly, i'm talking about her personna. her personna is that she's not going to be president. she's a terrible failed time. >> i don't know about that. i'll tell you why. i hear everything you say about the record. they are all legitimate bases for criticism, they are all legitimate bases you can level against your opponents, but i'm reading the quote. for what it is. look at that face. why would anyone vote for that? can you imagine that's the face of the next president. she's a woman and i should not say bad things, but really, folks, come on. are we serious? i'm talking persona. >> how, where is persona in that? >> they talk about my hair and that's okay. i know you will defend me. >> that's tit for tat. somebody comes on my air and makes fun of your hair, i tell them to shut up and move on to somebody else. if somebody does that on my air,

the reason he shouldn't be president because of his hair. look at his hair. i'll say, shut up. it's unkind and unpresidential. >> you don't have to defend me. i'm not looking for anybody to defend me. i'm just saying, when she and other people hit me on things, nobody ever comes to my defense. so i'm just saying this -- >> you come to your defense. >> she did a terrible time in business. she destroyed a company. you have to get the report from jeffrey sonenfeld from yale. he is the expert on carly. it is a disaster. and check out lucent beforehand. so, you have ben saying what he said. you have carly saying. these are two people that will not be president. >> all i'm saying is that you are the frontrunner. you say that you're going to be president of the united states. there is a manner of behavior that goes with that. i'm not saying be mr. p.c., mr. captain gentility and let everybody beat you up, but the idea of returning a blow every team you receive one, you know that doesn't work in any high level situation.

>> i'm a believer. perhaps you are not. maybe your show isn't doing as well as the it should be. >> that's not nice. that's not nice. you are attacking me for asking a question. that's not what a president does. >> when ben carson criticizes or questions, he doesn't even know me. i met him. he comes to my club in palm beach. okay. i have a great club, mara lago, he comes to my club. i hardly know ben carson. when he question is my faith. i am a believer, big league in god and the bible, and he question is my faith and he doesn't know me. and you say i'm not supposed to hit back. i will hit back on that. >> i don't say you are not supposed to hit back. >> first of all they know i am going to run the country properly and not let everybody rip us of and take our jobs and take our money. that's very important to the evangelicals. they are very smart people. and they also know i am a man of faith. i don't want ben carson criticizing my faith, certainly when he doesn't know me. >> well we will have more of the interview just ahead.

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>> when donald trump talked to chris cuomo, the poll numbers had not been released. donald trump was hours away from

knowing he cracked the 30%. here is part three of chris' interview with the republican front-runner. let me ask you about issues very relevant to you if you're president of the united states. the kentucky clerk situation. there's a culture war going on in this country. you had the supreme court give the ruling that same sex marriage is the law of the land. that you know that. she says, i'm not going to do it because it's against my faith. she's a public servant elected to do the job of giving out licenses, not to decide who gets them on that basis. what do you think of her? >> well, i hate that she went to jail. i hated that. >> she chose to go. >> and now she's out. but i must tell you that we are a land of laws. i would like to see her get a different job or at least let the clerks do that particular work. we are in a position that's been a terrible situation that has taken place out there. and i understand both sides of the argument. and i embrace both sides of the argument. you can embrace both sides of an argument.

but it would be really good if she could either stay and let the clerks do that work that she can't do, or in the alternative, get herself something elsewhere she doesn't come into conflict. but that's the way of handling it. it's something that is going to work its way out. but it is a messy situation. no question about it. >> the tone that you've put into the campaign is starting to move through into different candidates. you go after jeb bush in this commercial where it is a somanex commercial, where he is falling asleep. now he's trying to up his game it seems to come at you a little bit. i don't know if you saw what he did on colbert, but we have a -- did you thing it was funny? >> he was put in a bad position. he was given cue cards. he is not a natural entertainer. he was put in position that was very uncomfortable for him. it was something he didn't want to be doing.

it was fun, it was fine. but he did fine. he was put in a position he didn't really want to be in. he could have said "i would rather not do that would have been better." he is probably saying "this stuff will haunt me for the rest of my life." it's one of those things. it is fine. >> do you think as you continue to stay at the top of the poll, and you end up getting into a general against somebody else, do you think you will campaign and deal with opponents the same way where every time they say something about you you go back at them. at some point do you think you have to shift tone into what is seen as being more presidential? >> no, i have to win. i have to win. i have to put this country back. this country is in such trouble, we owe $19 trillion, ripped off by china, mexico, both in trade and at the border. i have to do what i have to dau to win. when a ban carson makes a phony statement like he made. i will attack him. when hillary says something incorrect. look, hillary was the worst

secretary of state in the history of the united states. i think she will be superseded by john kerry because this deal he is making with iran will take him over the top. i think he is going to go down as worse than her. him ear was truly, did a terrible job. the world blew up around her. owe cape. it blew up. i am going to say that. i am going to say that. now you know it is sort of interesting because in the polls and you see, i am leading with african-americans. i have the highest poll number in the history of republican, the republican party primary things, i have 25%. and i'm also, i think you saw, leading with hispanics. everybody fell off the chair when they heard that. >> you have increased your percentage in both the categories, true. >> i'm leading with hispanics. and leading with the african-americans. if that is the case and i will get 25% african-american. we are going to have a tremendous victory for the republicans. no republican has ever gotten more than 9% or 10%.

and i said i am going to do great with the african-americans i am going to create jobs. and obama is not creating jobs for them. i am going to create jobs. i am going to create wealth for them. i have been saying this for a long time. when the poll came out two days ago, i am leading with african-americans and leading with hispanics i was the only one that wasn't surprised. >> so, just to be clear what he says he says about carly fiorina's face. because he is saying that he was talking about her persona. i just want to read what he said. he said, look at that face. would anyone vote for that? can you imagine that? the face of our next president? it certainly does not sound like he was talking about her persona. >> anderson, let me tell you something, when she was at hp, she did a horrible job. see that awfulll of a sudden th question is gone. that's trump's genius with the media. i get nervous when you put your glasses on the heavy is about to come. i was nervous. when he doesn't like a question

he does what most politician do's. he goes another direction. >> like he is trying a shiny object here. >> the works. he ignores the question and makes a point that wasn't anything to do with the question. >> the guy, straight talker, telling it like it is, no holds barr barred, he says things, walks it back. makes it pretend as if what he said was not what he really said? i mean, he's making it seem like everybody who heard, read that, rolling stone thing, just misunderstood. >> what he is doing that is working is you want to criticize me for something that i don't think people really care about. i am going to till you what i think they really care about instead of answering your question. because you are, and fill in the blank. with carly fiorina, look. there is no debate about what he said. there is very little debate about the suggestion he intended. the question is do people care? look at the polls with women. within his own party independents, he is leading. as things continue, the cnn

debate coming up, more intense measurements of the people you can't just say that the other people stink. more and more, it will be intensive. he will have to put meat on the bones. not saying he can't. i am saying he will have to. >> right. we'll be watching. chris, thank you, fascinating interview. >> i like it better when you interview him and come on my show-and-tell me what it was like. >> chris did a great job interviewing trump on new day. ahead, new york's police commissioner, apologizing to james blake, tackled, handcuffed in what is being called a case of mistaken identity. that's next. ♪ color is a beautiful thing.. ♪ i know, i know... ♪ color is a beautiful thing if you feel it, you can find it. all new color by behr.

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. ten nis star james blake was tackled and handcuffed. blake had not done anything wrong. he was just standing there waiting for a car to pick him up and take him to the u.s. oech. new york's police commissioner says it was a simple case of mistaken identity. >> known in the court for his powerful forehand, tennis star james blake once ranked fourth in the world, now the victim of a clash off the court after being roughed up by the new york city police department.

blake was leaving his hotel wednesday, the grand hyatt in manhattan around noon. he was headed to the u.s. open when, suddenly, an unidentified man ran towards him. >> he picked me up and body slammed me. put me on the ground. told me to turn over and shut my mouth. >> he told the man who tackled him that he was cooperating. blake also says at no point did that man ever identify himself. >> not a badge in any way showing. not around his neck, not on his belt, anything. the police officers that walked up later i saw a couple badges on belts, but none were really displayed. >> police say this is a case of mistaken identity. new york city police commissioner bill bradden says the plain clothesed officer were working a case in fraudulent credit cards. as for the officer who tackled him -- >> the use of force was such

that i'm comfortable that it's in the best interest of the department to place the aurvoff on modified assignment. >> blake is biracial. the question is whether police would have used such force had blake been white. the father of tennis great serena and venus williams is doubtful. >>. >> it's not surprising. >> i don't believe that race was a factor at all. >> police released a photo of the suspect. one thing is clear, blake says he was angered and humiliated by his experience. >> i thought about what i would be thinking if someone did that to my wife, taking away her dignity. i couldn't accept that.

>> and jason joins us now. the police apologized. what do they say? >> well, yeah, they called blake. spoke to him at length this afternoon. and, aparentally, blake, according to police, did accept the apology. blake also said that he would reach out to the mayor. the mayor has been trying to reach him, as well. he said, eventually, he would meet with internal affairs. again, the big question here is the question of force. the question that blake is going to be asking would police have used that much force had he been white? >> and not identifying themselves. and holding him at handcuffs for up to ten minutes. >> jason, thank you very much. jams blake will be on this program tomorrow night. coming up, the ridiculousist.

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>> just 12 degrees in the coast of parts of eastern england with cloudy skies. in the sunshine in northwest wales, just up the road, the temperature got up to 21 celsius at 17 degrees fahrenheit. >> say what now? that was weather man liam dudham breezing right through the pronunciation of europe's longest place name. let's just hear him do it again. come on now. you know he practiced that. he learned welsh when he was younger and it's just the sort of word that you practices. >> that's the go go gock that always gets me. the town even has the pronunciation posted at its train station. yes, i see the pronunciation.

i'm still not going to be able to do it. the only way you'll hear that name come out of my mouth is by some act of ventriloquism. i learned that the hard way on the ridiculousist of your. times have changed, ventriloquism -- times have changed ventriloquism. ventriloquism. it kind of makes me want to learn more about ventriloquism -- no, i'm not going to keep going. it makes me want to learn more about the art of ventriloquism. kind of makes me want to learn more about the art of ventriloquism. it's nice to know the ridiculousist never forgets. getting back to the 58-letter town in wales, it was just an ordinary day at work with a very long name. that's easy for you to say on the ridiculousist. well done, tally hoe. that does it for us.

"cnn tonight" with don lemon starts now. >> ladies and gentlemen, this is going to be good. the stage is set for our cnn debate in just six days. everybody's taking shots at the surging donald trump. this is "cnn tonight", i'm don lemon. here's where we stand right now. donald trump says, and i quote here, "look at that face. would anyone vote for that" maybe, just maybe, i'm getting under his skin a little bit. >> i'm talking about her persona. her persona, she's not going to be president. jeb bush says this. >> i don't see how over the lg