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but if you take a look at our late numbers releasing just today, look at that. for the first time, donald trump above 30 pvrnt. he's far and away the national front runner. jeb bush down at the single dijts. scott walker down in single digits, 5 pnt. so if you look at the line-up, 11 candidates.

donald trump, still the front runner. this will be the big prime time dynamic. let's show you quickly. the earlier debate will have the former governor of texas. senator santorum, senator graem and governor patocky. if you welcome at the back several months, they might be a bit higher. the others just barely registered. at some point, this field will shrink. everyone says it's not going to happen soon, but these will be your most likely candidates. >> and do we know where the growth is coming from? which groups in particular behind it? >> this is what makes the trump phenomenon. it's coming from the summer to the fall so fascinating. he's at 32%. that's the first time he's cracked 32%. watch this as it plays out. donald truch is on the upswing. he is going exactly the way you want to go. from 12 to 24 to 32.

ben carson also on the rise. this is the man who is the front runner of the spring. he's cut almost in half. ted cruz coming up a bit. interesting to watch as he appeals to evangelicals. but donald trump remains the man of the moment. why is that? let's take a look at the support. 72% say they do so because of his issues on the positions. he was once pro-choice. he's the single payer health care plan. at the moment, they say they do. his support is so broad. 31% of republican man. this is stunning. this has tripled since june. now, for trump. 41% of tea party supporters are for trump. so his support is not only getting bigger, it's getting wider. >> and i understand there's been a switch in terms on which

candidates republicans believe will be getting the nomination chlts four in ten republicans believe donald trump will be their nominee in 2016. only 22% believe that about jeb bush now. that is more than doubled what it was just a couple of months ago. it helps him, anderson. but at this point, four years ago, exactly the same percentage. >> fascinating. we'll look into those numbers. a trump supporter, she's former communications director for senator ted cruz.

amanda, when you look at trump not just jeb bush, but also dr. ben carson and carlie fiorarina. does anything in recent memory compare to this kind of political potter? we talk a lot on this program about why and trump particular rising. let he tell you why they are so similar. both of them are rebukes to the culture of political correctness. with ben carson, if you go back and look at his breakout moment at the national prayer breakfast where he controversial criticized president obama, his break outline was i don't believe in political correctness. so what the other candidates need to take from this, they cannot be afried to speak boldly and clearly about what they

intend to do. until they push for big, positive reforms, they're not going to go up in the polls. >> all of which we're going to get to over the next two hours. there's a lot of new stuff on that. do you see this next debate getting personal for better or worse, depending on your politics? >> i think he'll be fine. what i took particular note was governor jindall. the gov no nor, in fact, is at 1%. >> that seemed to be a desperate move to get some sort of attention. >> that's exactly right. it was december brags. prags.

they're trying too do something that can stop this. >> your kajd dat went after trump right out of the gate at the last debate. doesn't seem to have really helped him. how do you think candidates can go after donald trump. is anything effective? >> i think one of the lessons is donald trump is the jedi master. the rule is you don't feed them. if everybody sticks with their game plan, particularly rand paul who is a reformer, an authentic disrupter within the republican party. i think he needs to be himself and play his game and try, as best you can, to ignore the don because he'll just suck up all of the oxygen. >> your former tea party leader,

when you see those numbers of people who say they're tea party you will supporters supporting trump, what do you make of that? if you're a believer, trump is not the person. >> i think donald trump is sort of the antitea party. >> this is a paradigm shift where the gop pubas would say it's your turn. that's not going to happen this time. a lot of this is disruption. it's also a repudiation donald trump and ben carson is sort of exploiting that window of opportunity.

listen, there's other candidates who are seshltly falling off the map.

dangerously close to wing the nomination with the very small percentage of voters. i do not think that is good for the republican party. >> the only group. that nobody wants to be a part of. >> go ahead, jeffrey. >> one of the things, anderson, i think we are beginning to see evolve is the possibility of a trump-cruz ticket. or, you know, if the carson thing settles down and trump-carson ticket. an outsider tech it here. to drive home the message. that would be a complete and total repudiation of the republican establishment, you look at the numbers, internals here, where the candidates are getting.

60% of the vote combined. in some of the cases. that's pretty emphatic. and i think the message would be, if donald trump emerges as the nominee, is you know, don't pick some establishment, don't sort of do a unification thing, quote, unquote by picking jeb bush. stick with the outsiders. the ones who brought him to the dance to the point, trump-cruz, trump-carson. couple weeks ago, a trump-fiorina ticket. that seems hard to imagine now that he has gone after her face. he claims he went after her persona. who knows where two weeks from now if the carson thing continues to be a back and forth. over their faith. they're both polling well with voters who call themselves evangelicals. >> the game is for authentic outsiders, rand paul, ted cruz to stay in the game. the assumption has to be that trump and cars on -- carson lose team. that has to be the focus. it's got to be a long term game for candidates like that. new rules of politic as law for candidates to stay in politics

longer, raise money independently, and be able to reach their constituents. i don't think we should make any profound pronouncements of who might be the nominee. >> that's for sure. even people make pronouncements like the day before the election usually get it wrong. matt, good to have you. amanda, jeffrey as well. next hour, on for two hours tonight. our first look at new polling on the democratic side. what it says about how big a challenge hillary clinton faces. coming up next we touch on this in the conversation already. what donald trump said about carly fiorina, her face, and talk to the reporter who broke the story and show you how mr. trump is now explaining today. >> also tonight breaking news on the flooding in japan where riot police are on patrol. new emergency warnings are up at the doorstep of the crippled

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one vote for that. in a moment the rolling stone reporter who listened to donald trump say that about carly fiorina, the story broke last night. the controversy quickly grew. by this morning, talking to new day's chris cuomo, mr. trump is taking fresh shots at carly fiorina while trying to explain that the word "look at her face" didn't actually have anything to do with her face. >> but carly, talking about her persona. her persona is not -- she know it going to be president. she is terrible, terrible failed time. >> i don't know about that. i hear everything you are saying about the record. all legitimate bases for criticism you can level against your opponents. reading it for what it is. look at that face. why would anyone vote for that. can you imagine that is the face of our next president.

she is not a woman. i am not supposed to say bad things. really, folks, are we serious? >> i'm talking persona. >> where is persona in that? >> i know that is okay. because my hair, you know me well enough, it is my hair. but when somebody -- >> somebody comes on and says that he shouldn't be president because of his hair. i will tell them to shut up. >> you don't have to defend me. i'm not looking for anybody to defend me. >> when someone hits me, nobody comes to my defense. >> you come to your defense. >> terrible time in business. destroyed a company. you have to get the report from jeffrey sonenfield of yale, an expert on carly, and check out lucent beforehand. you have ben saying what he said. you have carly. these are two people that will not be president. >> just is a sample of chris cuomo's conversation. in the next hour we'll bring you the entire interview and get chris' impressions of that interview. it is fascinating. first the author of the rolling stone cover story taking trump

seriously on the trail with the gop's tough guy. he joins us. and thank you for being with us. the most obvious question, donald trump saying he was talking about his persona. is there anything that wasn't in the article that would indicate he was talking about her persona and what he said, her face. >> i don't know. i want to the yale school of drama. i thought i meant what persona meant. perhaps it has a broader application than they taught us in new haven. no, i was there. i was sitting across from, as he was finishing his meal. donald for all of his energy and way ward charm has a 12-14-year-old boy permanently affixed to his inner life. and in moments where he is sort of flush with success, we had come from this enormously impactful and successful rally, 2,500 people in a tiny little school. he was positively floating. he was feeling loose and playing to the room. the six or seven people. >> for the record, he was not talking about her persona.

>> he was not talking about his persona. >> of the six or seven people. they were sort of trump people in the room. how did, was it received? did anybody. sometimes the handler will sort of, give some sort of indication like, ooh, that, my candidate shouldn't have said that. was there any of that? >> you do that with donald trump at your own physical peril. nobody shuts up donald. >> so yes men around him. or yes women or yes people. >> yes. yes. in a word. yes. there's this quality of a kind of mobile echo chamber around donald. but you know there is a certain kind of brilliance to that. this is a game who has attacked and won, attacked and won, ever since he left military academy at the age of 18. and you know the idea that he suddenly now in his late 60s going to start taking life instruction from, you know, some hack political operative, he hasn't hired that guy. he has hired functionaries, those are people who surround himself with, not strategists. >> that's interesting.

one wonders if his campaign is a reflection of how he would govern. if that is the way he would govern, that's something voters may want to think about. >> if voters are dying to have folks like henry kravis and carl icahn run the defense department, the state department, u.s. department of treasury, you know, then by all means, step forward and, you know put your thumb print on the ballot. but, to, the extent of my experience around donald there isn't a serious wise man in the room with him. >> and his organization is actually pretty small, isn't it?

>> it is tiny. one of the questions i asked him, after we had got done gallivanting around. here we are, late august, early cement, and you are way out in the lead. a, did you expect to be here? b, what provisions have you made? what contingencies have you built in to mount a national campaign competitive in 50 snats states? >> we hired people quickly now. seven people in new hampshire. bunch of people in iowa. but there is 50 states to contend for. and as you know, this is a particularly front loaded cycle. so, you know once -- >> he is sort of rewriting the rules. the rules in the past you have to be on the ground in iowa, new hampshire all the time. doing a lot of stuff out of new york and seems to be working for him. i have got to ask you about what he said on cnn today to chris. he said that you called him and said that you were upset with

the article. they added a lot of garish stuff and the publisher of "rolling stone" screwed it up. did you, did you call him, is that true? >> i spoke to donald the last time, ten days ago. >> before the article. >> way before the article. >> article came out, leaked, or released last night? >> right. the article publishes tomorrow. so a post publication phone call between me and donald would have been impossible according to the laws of science we currently live by. i did call him eight, ten days ago, at jan's insistence to get further lifestyle detail. and ask a couple of questions. >> when donald trump says you called him, said you were upset with the article, there was garish stuff, that jan winter screwed it up in your word that didn't happen? >> no, what happened was i told donald that jan took him seriously enough to edit the story himself. which he hasn't done in many years. and that he was being very tough diligent editor of this piece. and then i asked him the

questions that jan had asked me to ask him. and, you know, some of them involved the layout of the plane, this kind of rich guy stuff. and donald didn't like that. but, you know, that's -- those were my marching orders. the rest is donald being donald. >> you worked for rolling stone for 20 years. broken huge stories. interviewed tons of people. just as an experience. you spent a lot of time with him on and off for some ten days. what is he, how did you find him? >> so i found donald to be two people. i found him first of all to be an extraordinarily shrewd predator. someone who as i describe in the piece, is a top of the food chain killer. he is a guy with two extraordinary senses. one is something i call clairvoyance, the ability to read a market way before it is formed and get there first. the second is clairaudience, hear what is in people's hearts and minds. >> clairaudience. >> there is donald on the 26th floor of his massive office in the trump tower, and somehow he read and saw and heard into the

hearts of disaffected underemployed white people in coatsville, pennsylvania, in, west virginia, in ohio, and not only was he able to hear that seething rage, he was able to read it back to them word for word in ways that no republican has ever done before. >> that came from him. that wasn't some clever adviser. >> absolutely not. >> these polls show this.

which is what happens with a lot of politicians. >> but he doesn't have those people. so trump does not the formal apparatus around him. nor would he trust it for a second. what he has always relied on, and has always been borne out by are this sense of smell and his taste for the kill. and he is unfailingly shrewd about being on the attack at all times. i have never seen a candidate on his toes rather than on his heels. every second of the day. the second guy in the room with us, was this guy whose emotional development stopped at 13 or 14. the kid that made the crack about carly. the guy who made the crack about his daughter. the guy who tossed out of the posh prep schools in queens and sent to a military academy upstate where no son of a rich man ever wind up unless he really deserves to be there. >> fascinating piece. it publishes tomorrow. thank you so much. >> my great pleasure. >> more perspective. three prominent women, hillary clinton's former adviser, and leading republican strategist on

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donald trump said not surprising. what is surprising in the context of every modern presidential campaign up until now is how nothing he said so far has put a dent in his support of republicans. on the contrary it has grown stronger. this time, carly fiorina's face, or as he tried to explain on "new day" this morning her persona. he had another chance to explain tonight on fox news. >> i am talking persona. we were watching television. her persona is all tied up when you think about it. she had a tremendous failed business. look at hewlett-packard, lucent before hewlett-packard. she hasn't done well. the reason i bring it up,

frankly she picked me, attacked me. i therefore have to respond. and i have responded. and we're really talking about not a physical thing. we are talking about the persona. this is a woman that gets tremendous publicity mostly on fox to be honest with you, i don't know why. because i guess in the poll that you quoted she is at a very low number. she gets tremendous amounts of publicity. her past doesn't go along with the publicity she is getting. so she mentions something about me. she knocks me. and, when somebody knocks me look jeb bush or anybody else, i at least decide it is appropriate to fight back. talking only about her persona. >> i don't want to beat a dead horse. i'm on the record. i don't think you are a first time offender making a personal crack at a woman. the first thing. the second thing is, the remark was about her face and not about her persona. it all goes hand in hand. and much, many of the statements. you notice i am leading with women. >> greata pushing back.

>> and donald trump a short time ago. tonight, gloria borger, patty soleis doyle, and margaret hoover. margaret, donald trump who calls, sees himself as the tell it like it is guy not politically correct guy, says what is on his mind. for a guy who is portraying himself as that, when he, when he says something like this, he sure does seem to try to make everybody else sound stupid by thinking he actually said what he said. what he said was, about her face, the idea that he was talking about her persona is frankly, it's a lie. it's just not true. he can try to, shine bright objects and make people distracted and stuff t if he was really a stand up guy he would say that's what i said that's what i think. that's what i said. i went too far. instead, he tries to act as if, we're all stupid. >> and continues to repeat what he wants-up to believe that he actually intended which then becomes the story. now it is clearly all about her persona, right, not her face.

he is the only person in american politics who can spin his way out of controversy without having to say he is sorry. hillary rodham clinton, just has to say she is sorry. jeb bush has to say he is scary for whatever he said about -- everything. everything. everybody has to say that they're sorry. except donald trump. and it's, what's remarkable is that he is actually crafted this image of himself more than being a businessman. a marketer. right? he crafted this image of himself he is this straight talker who is going to be the honest guy. the honest broker. he doesn't speak in a polished way. like ordinary folks. he went on the view today and said he would defund planned parenthood and have joy behar invite him back to talk in person. >> if you are going to be the straight talk guy. be the straight talk guy. don't pretend as if everybody is stupid for understanding what you actually say. if you say, you're saying to your cronies and according to

the reporter, yes men, talking about her face. just own up to it. >> yeah, but he know the consequences of owning of to it, perhaps, right? look, he can say he is doing really well with republican women. which he is. but if you look at the poll numbers of women overall, favorable, unfavorable, he has got a 58% unfavorable. he is underwater by 27 points with women overall including democrats. but also, independent women. so he is smart. he knows the consequences of what he says. so he has to try and spin his way out of it. i don't think he expects any one to believe it. it's clear you don't believe it. i don't believe it. greta didn't believe it. chris cuomo of course this morning, didn't believe it. but he still insists on doing it. because, he feels he has to. >> patty, in the new cnn poll. he wins big among republican voters, up 13%. not only does he have a lot of support from republican women that support is growing. >> right. i have to till you, anderson in all honesty. i just don't get it.

this is a guy who refers to women as dogs and pigs. this is a guy who because megyn kelly asked some pointed tough question in a debate which is her job to do by the way, he assumed, it was because he was menstruating. this is a guy who in a legal deposition, you know, told the opposing female attorney, that sunny was disgusting because she needed to take a break in order to pump her breast milk. i mean, i just don't understand who these 33% of republican women are who are supporting a man who is clearly sexist and not only sexist but misogynistic. >> is it possible the women who are supporting him just feel, well he is that way with everybody.

this is just part of his persona. it's not, he is not politically correct. and they sort of spin that to something they like and they like his other policies. >> look, 33% isn't a majority. keep in mind this is look that mean that 67% don't like him. also be clear. he has the highest negative and, the highest, people say they will never vote for donald trump. is higher than anybody else in the republican feed. so he has polarized the debate though he continues to lead. there are 16 other people on the stage. and he is the celebrity. the one that everybody knows. not just republican voter. nationally. people know him. they know the apprentice. they know trump buildings. trump golf courses. this branding, marketing empire he created. he is at this point, with 17 people on the stage. still an id name game. >> you don't really buy the polls in a way. you are saying a lot of it, you believe sort of celebrity driven when push comes to shove, and people actually are in the

voting booth. >> you are right. here is what i buy. i buy what i know about iowa and new hampshire voters. which is you have to go and visit with them and talk to them over and over again. you can't phone in. you can't parachute into the iowa state fair. you have to get to know the folks. >> that's what people have always said. yet, gloria, leading in the polls, a lot from new york. >> he is. interesting numbers in our recent polls. recent poll in iowa, was there are 66% undecided voters. okay. so people are window shopping right now. they're looking around. donald trump voices their anger. which is really widespread. people, men, women believe he speaks truth. and they kind of like that. an outsider. hasn't been involved in elective office. a celebrity right. you put that all together. he has high name recognition. are these commitments? i am not so sure at this point. they just have off to see who else is on the stage with him. you know. they want some one who will win.

>> and my point is i just don't understand if you are selling yourself as the the straight talking guy, why, why you don't just say, you know what, yeah, i said it. you know what, some times i talk off the, off the top of my head. and i say things i don't really mean. but you know what i am telling it like it is and owning up to it. a big difference between that and saying, no i was talking about her persona, or, i don't know, or -- >> have you heard him apologize during this campaign psychle? never, not once. >> no, i don't think it is a question. there is apologies. there is also just saying, just admitting what you said as opposed to pretend like we are all idiots. people actually do understand what you said. it's not that we misunderstood it. we actually understood it. gloria, good to have you on. patty, margaret, thank you. just ahead. breaking news in the investigation of the killing of an illinois police officer, new details about the shots fired at him. breaking news in arizona, police

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mystery who killed lieutenant joe gliniewicz. week from retiring. his body was found in a remote area north of chicago. he was chasing three men on foot. to night new information about the bullets that were fired at him. justice correspondent, pamela brown joins us. what are your sources telling you about the gunshot wound? two bull either hit him. one through the torso. the devastating gunshot wound that killed him. another bullet hit his bulletproof vest. anderson. not injured from the bullet. >> an idea if the shots came from the officer's gun? >> that is still the big question. his gun was found at the scene. there were shell casings from the gun at the scene. and ballistics testing is going on in the lab. until the results are finalized. we won't know the answer to that. >> is there any timeline when we might know the answer.

when the medical examiner makes a determination about what happened? >> we are being told that, that it is still being tested. we are not being given exact time by fox lake police. and, it is important, anderson, as you point out. the medical examiner has said we know he was killed from one devastating gunshot wound. but he is not ruling out anything. he is not ruling out homicide. suicide. accident. anything else. until he gets the lab, ballistic testing, fingerprints. dna testing, critical lab results that will help the medical examiner determine what happened. >> who ever is shooting at cars and vehicles in phoenix still at large tonight and still at it. police say two more vehicles were hit by bullets or projectile tuesday. that makes at least 13 vehicles hit in 11 days. man of the shootings though not

today's have been along a busy stretch of interstate 10. authorities don't know if they're dealing with one gunman or more. sara sidner with the latest. two more incidents today. what are authorities saying? >> this is interesting, anderson. we talked to a source with knowledge of the investigation telling us that indeed there were two more reported incidents. those incidents are reported as copycat incidents. that does not make people here feel any better. especially those who are driving along the freeways here in phoenix. they are now saying that they do have 11 incidents they believe are potentially linked. shootings. we're talking about cars, trucks, any time of the day or night. it is seemingly random. we can't figure out a pattern. police are saying they have some evidence. they have been able to find bullets for example. and in some cars, they're saying it is projectiles they're not exactly sure what hit the car that they do know their windows shattered or there are nicks in

some of the outside hull of the car. so they are really looking for who ever might be responsible for this. anderson, a lot of folks here pretty worried about it. we talked to drivers who said if we didn't have to take i-10 we're going to take surface streets to avoid it. >> little confusing. on the one hand they're saying they have enough information to say well the ones that happened to day were copycats. and that there is some linkage between the others all the others they haven't specified what. is there any understanding publicly known how close to or how far from, from the vehicles this, these projectiles were coming from? >> we asked that question to the head of the department public safety. he said we can't tell you all that information. asking trajectory. where should people be looking. he gave us a little information we have not been able to report and are report right now. he said people should be looking around not just on the

interstate. we are talking about places like this you, can see behind me. a fence there. very easy to get a firearm through it. there are plenty of holes. plenty of place for people to perch. not giving details as to where the shots are potentially coming from. and they're not sure about a few of them. three of them they say are pro -- projectiles, not sure what they are, b.b.s or rocks. cars are being hit. and they're concerned they arelinged, 11 of them. >> breaking news out offpan. a disaster unfolding. deadly floods have swept house as way left hundreds stranded on rooftops. the race to rescue survivors on. more than half a million people are told to evacuate. a live shot there. walter nearly submerging cars. a full report next.

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forcing many to rooftops. riot police are at work. nearly half a million people are advised to evacuate. one person is dead. nine others are miss right now. with those developments you can tell the danger is far from over. will ripley is there. a wall of water in eastern japan, leaving many stranded on rooftops, balconies, anywhere above water. japan activating its military. bringing in helicopters, rescue teams, pulling people to safety. searching flooded buildings for anyone trapped inside. japan prone to all kind of natural disasters, but the rapidly rising river took many by surprise thursday. this is the first time this has happened says one long time resident. tens of thousand got evacuation orders many had just minutes. carrying what belongings they could. unsure of what to do next. and the japanese prime minister shinzo abe warning the region scud see more unprecedented heavy rain meaning pro ten seashell more flooding at the waterlogged fukishima power

plant. heavy rains overwhelming the drainage systems causing radio active water to leak into the ocean for several hours wednesday. power company tepco says the situation is contained. outside radiation levels normal for now. the full-scale of this disaster unknown. also unknown, how many people may still be waiting for rescue. surrounded by floodwaters. hoping their house went be the next one dragged away. >> incredible how fast that water is moving. will ripley from the flood zone. how prepared was japan for this, will? >> well, keep in mind, anderson it has been raining pretty much every day for the last month. in many parts of eastern japan. in fact the first sunny day we have seen here in quite a while. that combined with the fact there was a tropical storm. they had time to prepare. they had the defense force on stand by. keep in mind these are highly trained troops. show you video we took a couple hours ago of a rescue operation at a shopping center nearby here

where people had to spend the night at the shopping center. landing on the roof, picking them up. taking them group by group to evacuation centerers. japan, how prone this country is, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, tsunamis and landslides. they were able to mobilize in a couple hours. >> there is more rain in the forecast, right? >> there is more rain in the forecast. especially as we head further up japan's eastern coast. so, they just put out a new evacuation advisory for sendai, all most half a million people there. concern is that because the ground is so waterlogged, this type of walter could rise up very quickly. the people who were stuck on this road here, say they at one moment thought this was a dry, safe, spot. high enough that they wouldn't be affected and within second they were inundated you can see all the vehicles trapped. entire neighborhood have been cut off. the fear is this could become a widespread problem further up the east coast, which is why

they're telling people to at least be prepared to leave their homes if not do so, if they have some where else to go on hyperground. >> incredible picture. will ripley. more breaking news. could shake up the democratic primary race. signs of serious challenges ahead. fresh polling. you will seep it here first.

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