a lot of people don't know that, these are minor details. arnold will do great and they announced today arnold schwarzenegger will do "the apprentice." i can't do it because i'm doing this. i wish arnold well. we have so many problems in this country. we'll talk about a few of them. and we'll celebrate because ultimately, we're going to have victory. we're going to have victory. this is a movement that's happening. i had a lawyer come up to see me a little while ago that said mr. trump, i've been doing this for 35 years and never seen what happened here. i got a call from a writer from the new york times. i have great respect for ""the new york times." called up -- i know. i hear that. okay. good story, not a bad story. and he said could i ask you a question? i said what? very powerful writer, actually. he said how does it feel? how does what feel? he said what you've done has never ever been done before.

you've dominated, taken over the polls. you know, on television and fox they call it all trump all the time. can you believe it? all trump all the time. and by the way, their ratings are through the roof. if they weren't, they wouldn't put me on. i'll be honest. it's a simple formula in entertainment and television. if you get good ratings, if you get good ratings and these aren't good, these are monster then you're going to be in all the time even if you have nothing to say. if you come up with a cure for a major, major, horrendous disease and if you don't get ratings, they don't bother even reporting it. it's very simple business. it's very simple. so we've gone on, we've had a lot of fun and now it's time to really start because this is going to happen, i'm telling

you, i'm not going anymore. somebody said today. we're not going anywhere. [ cheers ] >> somebody said today you've done so well, you don't have to go any further. i said are you crazy? you know what? the writer "the times" told me, it's been amainmazing what you' done. i haven't won. i'm having fun but i haven't won. there's been no victory. he said it doesn't matter, what you've done is incredible. you have won. i said you're wrong, unless i win it's been a waste of time for me, i'll be honest. a total waste of time. i really mean that, too. we should have won, thank you, he said you will win. we should have won last time. mitt romney let us down. i mean, he let us down.

he let us down. you know, one of the things that i'm really happy about, i'm surging, they said. can you believe this one? i'm surging with women. can you believe it? [ cheers ] >> i have such respect for women. i cherish women. i'm going to take such good care of women's health care issues, you won't even believe it, but i'm surging with women. one of the things coming out, i'm watching television and they said trump is surging with women. i said really? that's amazing. it's incredible. i'll make statements because carly is giving me a hard time even though her poll numbers are horrible. she's the one. she was another one. she is surging. ben is, everybody is surging but me. [ laughter ]

>> hilary is not surging, i tell you that. they are not saying -- thank you. >> hilary is not surging. look, i like carly and i like ben and i like many of the people that i'm running against. i mean, many of these people are terrific people, but nobody is going to be able to do the job that i'm going to do. nobody. they won't. [ cheers ] >> they won't. don't forget, i love these people in back of me. [ cheers ] >> but they won't. i mean, what i do is i do deals. i deal. i have tremendous energy, tremendous to a point where it's almost ridiculous when you think

about it, but we need somebody with great energy, with great passion, with great deal making skills. and we need a closer. we need closers. we don't have closers. we just don't have closers. and honestly, they are not deal people. i'll tell you they are good at raising money for packs and not supposed to do that but it's illegal as hell but i think they are doing it anyway. you notice they have money in the pack but the hard money -- i say what is going on over here? how come i can't talk to anybody and again, i have to tell you this and i want to have your opinion. so i'm self-funding i told you. but if i took hundreds of millions, i tell you what, i could have $200 million so fast. if i took that, would you people object if i promise not to do anything from the people i took it from? no? i had a group in iowa, actually,

much more vocal about this one issue. and they stood up, no, no, the place -- i mean, i realize how important it is, putting your own money in because i'm telling people that jeb, nice guy, really a nice guy. jeb -- >> boooo, boooo. >> hilary. >> boooo. >> jeb is more popular than one person i know. [ laughter ] >> but all of them. i don't want to go through the names. they have money put up in pacts or hard money, wherever the money is, believe me, i was the king. i was the king. you know, i was the white-haired -- no, blonde-haired, let's say blonde. i was perfect. i was the ultimate. i was the ultimate sort of insider. i put up money. they loved me but then when i said i'm running, they all looked at me like the rnc is a

great guy but took them a little while because they looked at me like you're not supposed to be doing that. you're supposed to be putting up money and if you need something in two years, three years, five years, they will do whatever you want. what happened is i know the system i think better than anybody. i know the tax system. look, taxes. who knows better than me? we're going to reduce taxes. [ cheers ] >> we're going to make the hedge fund, any hedge fund guys it would be mostly -- you got good seats. are there any hedge fund guys in this room? if there are, you should probably leave right now. i have a friend in the hedge fund business, not really a friend. not actually a nice guyresentin because when i finish he might not have much of a hedge fund. i said what did you make last year? he said about $250 million.

this is serious. i said, oh, that's a lot of money. what did you pay in taxes? he goes, don, practically nothing. that was a couple years ago. i never forgot it. the other day he calls me up because he heard me talk about hedge fund guys paying up. i was only kidding. he doesn't know what to do. the truth is they will do just fine. they will do just fine because we'll make the country so successful, they will end up doing better. they will end up doing better. [ applause ] >> but we got to lower taxes for a lot of people. corporations paying far too much, far too much, middle income people are being decimated, decimated. i mean, we have a group of 200 guys but the middle income in this country is being decimated and we're going to change it. we're going to change it. so i'll be announcing over the next three or so weeks, i'll be announcing, i think a great tax

plan. i know the tax code. i know everything about it probably as well as anybody there is and we'll be doing something that's going to be really progrowth, really reduction in taxes. we're going to get the $2.5 trillion that's in other countries, we're going to get it back. [ cheers ] >> no, we're going to get it back. and you know, you have corporate inversion. does anybody know what that means? in the old days people might leave new york for texas or go from new jersey to florida or whatever. it's not that way anymore. now they go from this country to other countries, and they go for two reasons, lower taxes, lower labor, but lower taxes. you have countries that want to charge them nothing so they take these companies and these guys, they make a fortune, they have no real loyalty in many cases. they have no real loyalty to the

united states. they want to show good profit and loss and take and go to another country and all of a sudden numbers look good and they can't bring their money back in and by the way for two and a half, three years, every politician agrees we should lower the tax on bringing money because it's so ownerous that nobody in this room would bring that money back. everybody says it for two and a half years, democrats, republicans, liberals, conservatives, everybody, they can't make a deal. they can't make a deal. we have a government that's really messed up because we don't have a leader at the top. a right leader could get it done. [ applause ] >> the right leader will get it done and you will see numbers like you've never seen before. i actually believe that and we're in trouble. you know, i've made the statement and i've said this before, the american dream is dead but i'm going to make it bigger and better and stronger than ever before.

i made that statement. and i'll tell you what happens and it happens a lot. the other day i went home and i said to my wife, what's wrong? oh, darling, you were very tough. what? what did i do? of course, it's live television. she said you said the american dream is dead. i said no, i said the american dream is dead but i'm going to make it bigger and better and stronger than ever before. she said no, you didn't. you just said it's dead. so i turn on television, it's wonderful to record this and see it ten hours later. i turn on television and me standing in this big crowd, the american dream is dead. i said, oh. again, the dishonest media. i went ballistic. i was so angry. the american dream is going to

be better. i tell you what? we can make it better than ever before. we can do, i mean, we're in texas. we can do things with oil and gas that will be unbelievable. unbelievable. [ cheers ] >> unbelievable. try sending your oil outside of the boundaries of the united states. how ridiculous and we're sitting on top because of technology, we can be the number one energy producer in the world. right here in the united states. but we have our laws, we have everything is wrong and i have so many friends in the energy business, they are great people working, not as rich as they were but these are minor details. they will be fine. but we can do things with energy that will be so, so incredible, which is great for texas but great for the country. it's great for the country.

>> now, china, japan, true, you can't be upset with china or japan or mexico. can't be upset with anyone. you know, when i announced for the presidency, it was very interesting what happened. i made a beautiful speech. i thought it was wonderful. everything fine. a week and a half later, they attacked me and lied and made it up and talking about illegal immigration and i brought up a subject called illegal immigration and i just saw back stage some of the families who were decimated. their families were decimated, their sons, their daughters killed by illegal immigrants and it's a massive problem. we have to stop illegal immigration. we have to do it. [ applause ] >> we have to do it.

have to do it. [ cheers ] [ cheers ] >> usa! usa! usa! usa! usa! usa! usa! >> and when i hear some of the people i'm running against including the democrats, we have to build a wall, folks.

we have to build a wall. and a wall works. all you have to do is go to israel and say how is your wall working? walls work. and i want people to come into the country but i want them to be legal and go through the process. i want them to come in. i want to have a big beautiful door but they have to be legal. they have to be. and if they are not going to be, they can't come in and i'll tell you what, the first thing we do, people realize, you look at crime in chicago and crime in so many different places and you see gangs. many of these gang members are illegal immigrants. rough dudes. they will be out of here so freaking fast -- [ cheers ] [ applause ]

>> and i think a lot of these countries send them in here because they don't want them. what do they want them in prison for 40 years? look, look, whether it's any country, their leaders are smarter than our leaders. they are more cunning. they are tougher. they are better. and we take them, kate in san francisco, this magnificent young woman shot in the back by a guy sent over here probably pushed over, who knows, but he was an illegal immigrant came over, went to san francisco, we have to end this sanction wary cities crap fast, fast. [ cheers ]

>> so he admits he's guilty. now he's got a lawyer. oh, he didn't really know. he wasn't aiming there. it was a ricochet, blah, blah, blah. it's disgusting what's happening to our country. we are a dumping ground for the rest of the world. we are a dumping ground, and let me tell you something, the whole subject of anchor babies, did you hear that character from one of the networks? anchor babies, really not a nice term. i said what would you do, what would you say? and it gives me like a 12-word definition. i said no, we'll have to use anchor baby. i don't mean to be disrespectful, but when a man has a problem and he's got his wife or his girlfriend and they move her over to the border for one day, has the baby on the other side of the border, our side, now that baby is a citizen

of our country for however long the baby lives, hopefully a long -- it's wrong. it's wrong. and by the way, by the way, the law doesn't call that. that's not what the law says and people are finding out now that i'm right. we didn't say that somebody can be pregnant for nine months, come across the border, have a baby and now it's ours and we have to take care of the baby forever. it doesn't say that. it does not say it. so we have to straighten out, we have to straighten out our act. we're going to have a great country. we're going to have a great border. we're going to have a border that's a real border. you people are suffering. i'm in new york but from new york, too. they are all over the place. we want people to be in our country legally. legally. [ cheers ]

>> and we want great people, too. we want people of achievement. if you go to harvard or stanford or the warten school of finance or any of these schools or yale and you're the top in your close, you graduate and want to stay in the united states and have your career here, you can't. they throw you out. they put you back in china, they send you back to mexico. they said those are the people, we need those people. we need them in silicon valley, in manhattan, we need them in dallas. we need them. why are we throwing them out? they want to be in this country and we throw them out. so we have so many things we can do. so many things we can do. now i'll give you the little thing that happened the other day. made a speech on behalf of the tea party and the tea party people are fantastic people.

they are fantastic people. they love the country so much and you talk about people that get decimated, they just get decimated by the media. these are fantastic people. they love this country. these are the people that we want. but i look at what's going on and i look at what's happening and i made a speech in washington the other day for the tea party and your senator, too, senator cruz who happens to be a good guy. good guy. [ cheers ] >> now if he comes out and attacks me on wednesday night, i will take it back immediately. okay? but he is a good guy. so i'm standing there and the capital building has a massive scaffolding around it, right? have you seen it? massive. i said man that's a big deal. as a real estate guy, the thing i do best is build. wouldn't it be good to have a the president that knows how to build? i'm so good at it.

in in infrastructures, roads, i'm building the post office on pennsylvania avenue under budget and i got it from the obama administration and everyone else wanted it, which i haven't figured out but it's going to be a great hotel. they are doing the capital building and has massive, massive skrof massive scaffolding and in 2016 we're going to have a thing called an election and they say that this massive scaffolding, i heard this the other day from a construction firm that this massive scaffolding, they want to have it for the inauguration, wouldn't that be nice for me? but they want to have all the scaffolding down but they can't do the work because they don't have enough time. they have so much time. what are they doing, caulking,

pointing, pfixing. not a big deal. they are talking the scaffolding down and paying millions to do that, millions and after the inauguration will put it back up again and pay millions of dollars. do you believe that? right? now i say do it simpler, get them to work faster. do you agree? i like the idea. no, no. i like the idea of the scaffolding being down when they are swearing me in, i do. i don't want to see all the scaffolding all over the place. i want to see that beautiful, i want to see it. i love it. such a beautiful building. but you know what? i told them, i said why don't you just move faster? work faster. get it done. so you take it down and you don't have to put it up. they said we never thought of that. believe it? but they are going to take it

down. they are going to take it down. they are going to take it down and put it back up. can you believe this? i'm going to save my first money for the united states. if i win, i will let the scaffolding stay up, okay? all right? i'll let it stay up. we'll save millions of dollars so in the pictures, they will have some scaffolding. they can probably no a days do something with that. so in the pictures we'll have scaffolding, not if i win, stand up, what did you say? not if you win, when you win. [ cheers ] >> so a story i tell is a friend of mine who is a big manufacturer, great guy. can't do business with china. can't get his stuff in there. he calls me, he's depressed. he says to me, donald, i can't deal with china and he's a good guy, does great stuff better than they do. i can't sell it. they don't take it.

finally take it and charge a massive tax. a massive tax. another friend of mine recently bought an airplane, a rich guy. bought like for these people here. they probably all have -- but a really good plane. >> donald trump speaking in dallas texas, we'll take a short break and be back with more of the event. just might be the one.

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coming up in the next hour, we'll be talking to dr. ben carson. right now we're listening to donald trump. >> our country is being drained. jobs are being stolen by all these countries, not just them all of them. what would president trump do? president trump? trump, trump, trump. what would president trump do? so i'd call the head of ford or whatever company. i'd call the head of ford and say congratulations, i understand you're building a massive plant in mexico and you're taking a lot of jobs away from us in michigan and other places, i don't like that. i don't like it. i just don't like it. well, mr. president, it's wonderful, wonderful for the

economy. it's great. whose economy? not ours. we lose on everything, jobs, money, we lose on everything. so what i'd say is the following, i don't want you to do that. and if you do it, you're not going to have any cars coming across the border unless you pay a tax. that's it. that's it. and they are going to say, they are going to say to me, mr. president, please, please, please. i guarantee you, let's say i make this call at 9:00 in the morning. by 5:00 in the afternoon i think the deal is done, they move back to the united states. it may take a half a day longer. may be 12:00 the following day, but i guarantee you, so they will -- what will happen is i'll be called by lobbyists but not giving me money. i won't take it. i turned down $5 million last week, $5 million. i said i can't take it. i go like this and close my eyes. it's really sort of not natural to me to turn down money.

does that make -- but i turn it down because once i know the game. once they give you, you sort of owe them, right? you know. how can you tell a guy, you know, you gave me $5 million and helped me get elected and i'm going to hurt you with your client. what happens i would say is i get a call from the head of ford, and he'll say mr. trump, you're doing the wrong thing. all right, that's fine. just do it. just do what i say. do what i say. and i guarantee you after i tell all the lobbyists, special interest and people that donate to everybody else but me because i won't take their money, after i tell them no within a short period of time they will call up and say, mr. president we decided to move our plant back to the united states, sir. this is going to happen. that's what is going to happen. just a couple of more points and

you -- it's depressing, isn't it? we're together, we love each other but it doesn't end. >> i can stand up here all night long and i can tell you stories and they are depressing. every one of them. they can be remedied. so, iran deal, iran deal. >> booooo. >> they did not read that great book, where is that book? "the art of the deal." they did not read it. secretary of state kerry may go down as worst because he made this deal. he may be the worst. he may top her because this is deal at the all-time worst. we're giving them 1.5, think of this, we're actually giving them $150 billion. now think of it.

think of it. we don't have the right to inspect. we have to wait 24 days but before the clock starts ticking, we have to go through the process. they could build a nuclear whatever, distribute and have plenty of time to clean the place up. a 24-day period, not any time, anywhere, which is what it should be. think of another thing. they have one instance where in a very major area, they self-inspect. can you believe this? they do their own inspections. they do their own inspections. and another thing, look, having a good deal, we should have doubled the sanctions, wait for another month or two. they would have come and we would have a deal like you've ever seen. we have chief negotiators, secretary kerry at 73 years old goes into a bicycle race. think of it. he's wearing the gear, helmet, he thinks he's in a bicycle

race. he's actually in a race. it wasn't just casual, i could understand that. this is a guy that's in a bicycle race. 73 years old, all the gear, falls, breaks his leg in the middle of our thing. takes two weeks off, goes back with crutches. the people from iran say, what is shmuck? can you believe this? this is who we negotiate with. think of this, it's embarrassing. isn't it embarrassing? i swear to you if i'm elected as president, i'll never go into a bicycle race, i swear. so, one of the things -- >> trump dallas. we'll take a short break and be back with more of the rally. i've spoken of the shining city all my political life. god blessed and teeming with people of all kinds... living in harmony and peace.

trump: they're bringing crime. they're rapists. if i am elected they're... going to be out of there day one. reporter: do you think birth right citizenship should be ended? walker: yeah, absolutely. cruz: i think we should end birth right citizenship trump: i will build a great, great wall... in my mind it was a tall proud city built of... rocks stronger than oceans. and if there had to be city walls... the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. that's how i saw it and see it still.

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together, we're building a better california. dr. ben carson will be in the next hour but right now listening to donald trump speaking in a packed crowd in dallas. >> think of it. so what i said is very simple, if you had the right messenger, not kerry, not obama, if you had the right some of them are horrible human beings. they are miserable, disgusting people. who cares? who cares? who cares? they are phenomenal natural negotiators, andy knows what i'm talking about. these people are so tough and so

ruthless and brilliant. the ford deal is too easy. i just handled that. i don't want to waste anybody's -- i know the toughest guys in the world. i know people that are great. people are over rated, won't use them. i know people you've never heard of better than all of them. i know the toughest guys and smartest guys in the world. carl icahn called me. carl i ccahn is a great guy, ve successful. if i put him in charge of trade with china, believe me, believe me, we do great. and, you know, believe me, instead of people we have that are political hacks, you know who is negotiating for us? political hacks, political hacks. i asked for some numbers today before i came here. i said what's the united states trade deficit with china, japan,

and mexico? now listen to these numbers. with china last year, we had a trade deficit of $343 billion. $343 billion. that's gone on for many years. a business that's no good. what do you do, close it up, forget it. $43 billion. with japan we're doing better. only $67 billion. i call it that we're losing. okay? trade deficit. $67 billion. they send us so much, we send them practically the nothing. now here is the beauty, mexico. so mexico, again, i love the people of mexico. i respect the leaders. but they are too sharp. they are too good. so everyone said they won't build a wall because i said i'm going to build a wall and mexico is going to pay for it, right? right?

[ applause ] >> and all of these weak politicians, they are weak people. they are weak, weak people. they won't pay for it. i watch it on television. idiots like carl said mexico will pay for the wall. george will, mexico won't pay. okay, think of this. first of all, there is going to be a wall. they don't jump over it, go to home depot, buy a ladder, jump over a wall. this is a trump wall. this is a trump wall. this is a real wall. you know, you know, the great wall of china is 13,000 miles. it was built 2,000 years ago. it was actually built over a long period of time but started 2,000 -- a long time. so 13,000 miles. what we're talking about is 2,000 miles but less, maybe 1,000 because you'll have a lot of territory where you don't

need it. you have natural barricades, some walls built that are okay. although, i'd like to be nice in uniform. if i ever put my name on it, i want a gorgeous wall, the trump wall, that would be a beautiful wall. that's why i have to make it beautiful because some day when i'm gone, they will name that wall after trump, i think. but i listened to these guys, and they say, i listened to them today. some politicians said trump will never be able to afford the wall. we can't afford it. it's too expensive. it's peanuts. it's peanuts. it's nothing. and mexico is going to pay. here is the mexico number, right? let's say the wall cost $4 billion. they say $10 billion. that means $4 billion if you know what you're doing and $4 billion will be much bigger, much better, much stronger than

the $10 million. do i know how to build? one of the greats. let's say it cost 4 or $5 billion. our trade deficit with mexico is $53 billion. so four or five billion is peanuts, peanuts. mexico is going to pay and they will be happy. they will be happy. now, look, if you have some dumb politician negotiating, i agree they won't pay but when you have trump negotiating for you on your behalf, they will pay. 100%. 100%. >> donald trump speaking tonight at the american airlines arena in dallas and home to the mavericks and mark cuban who donald trump referenced and gave a shoutout early on to. there is a lot to talk about with our panel.

let's go today that lash, host of "dana" on the blaze and senior advisor to a prom gram called super back and jeffrey lord. dana, good to see you. for a candidate to fill up that arena in dallas would be huge in a general election battle but primary battle, what does it tell you and also, i mean, they are eating it up what he's saying and what he is saying not anything new, his standard stump speech we heard many times before. >> anderson, i think you're right and thanks for having me back. good to see you. it is a huge deal to fill up an arena of this size this say huge auditorium. not only that but we're still super early in this primary process. so for a candidate to be able to not only lead the polls the way he's leading them but also to turn out this many people i think it's what, over 20,000. that's really huge but is that energy going to be sustainable?

also i would think if you talk for an hour, you would at least take advantage of it and put some policy out there, just a little bit for some of us policy wonks. >> matt, to that point, he is, not surprisingly very light todt todt todto dana's point, the criticism of the media, usual stuff he does, you've been critical of trump as have been your candidates. when you see a packed arena like this, how much can you question his strength as a candidate? >> he's definitely tapped into real anxiety in america, particularly with the washington establishment but said himself in the speech it doesn't matter what you say as long as you have ratings and i think that's his, it's -- donald trump, there is no policy there. the thing that i mind most disturbing about the speech and i've heard him say it before is the story he tells about calling

up a private ceo and basically threatening private enterprise with the power of the chief executive. if barack obama did that, the tea party has been complaining about a muscular executive, the on going abuses of power by the president of the united states. donald trump is advocating to double down on that. >> and do you think people, i mean, the tea party supporters because it sounded from that crowd when he gave a shoutout, seemed like a lot of supporters and members and you yourself matt were a former tea party member of a large group. do you think that message has gotten across? do you think a lot of people in the tea party that follow are aware of that as you are? >> i think the tea party is divided on donald trump and i think over time you're going to see, you know, some of the shine wear off of the glamor right now, but it is a problem and something we need to be talking about. >> jeffrey, you're there at the

regan library. i'll broadcast from there tomorrow night. obviously the debate on cnn is two nights from now. when you see the poll numbers, ""the washington post,"" dr. ben carson at 20%. everyone else in single digits, how much or a target does that make trump do you think tomorrow night in a debate? >> well, it makes him, you know, the elephant in the room as it were. makes him a big target but i have to say, you know, listening to your description, i can't see it but listening to your description of the rally in dallas, listening to it, when you get a candidate that can look a crowd of thousands in the eye and say corporate inversion, there is something going on here. this is not, this is not just fun and games and that's reflected in these polls. >> so -- >> he will definitely be a target because frankly, they are trying to figure out how to handle him.

if they don't get it done, it doesn't going to get done. >> you look at the fact more than 50% of republicans say they are either supporting donald trump or dr. ben carson, two unconventional candidates, how does jeb bush or anyone else for that matter cut into that support at this point? is there only hope for trump and carson to, for the shine to come off to matt's point? >> we're still early on. at this point, if we were going to have the election tomorrow, the only way that jeb bush would be able to cut through is change his last name, maybe change his position on a few policies, as well. we have to realize donald trump is a giant red-headed middle finger to the establishment. that's what he is. there is a reason outsiders are rising to the top. they are not in the beltway. people are tired of the same ro old, same old. they don't like constant compromises they feel they shouldn't have to endure

anymore. they gave boehner the house, gave mcconnell the senate and want returns back. >> and yet, dana, it's interesting when you actually listen to trump, he's, you know, he's not given the gop line. a l a lot, some of his policies are to what republicans would advocate for. raising taxes on the wealthy and to matt's point about threatening a ceo. >> we're coming down to a battle and it will come to a head here son. populism versus principle. pop li populism is a great rhetorical tool. there are candidates with serious conservative records that aren't giving much of a pass. i'd like to see discussion about imminent domain and how that pertains to donald trump. i'd like to see the wealth tax which warren buffet and elizabeth warren agreed on. these are serious legitimate

questions based on his record that need to be addressed. >> matt, are you confident over time that this is early in the process and that over time people will start looking more closely at records? >> i am. i think we're still in the beauty contest phase of the race and if history was a guide, rick perry would have been the republican nominee leading up to 2012 at this time. so things will change. things are very volatile and i do think we need to final a genuine outsider that appeals to people frustrated with the republican establishment. i just don't think donald trump is the answer. >> i just want to play a little bit of what's happening now because i don't think i heard a political candidate use "twisted sister" as their song. let's listen to this for a second. ♪ ♪ we're not going to take it ♪ no, we ain't going to take

it ♪ ♪ we're not going to take it anymore ♪ ♪ ♪ >> jeffrey lord, how much do you anticipate the other -- sorry, go ahead, jeffrey. >> well, i was going to say, arnold schwarzenegger used that song when he got elected governor of california in 2003. >> did he? >> and i think somewhat the same attitude was prevalent here in california in 2003 as is broad in the nation at whole right now. >> interesting. >> so the song fits. >> it fits and has been used before. i was wrong. jeffrey, matt, dana and dr. ben carson is coming up in the second live hour in the 9:00 hour tonight. coming up next, gary tuchman speaks to supporters, some camped out all day to get a good seat, tonight. the cloud. it's security - and flexibility. it's where great ideas and vital data are stored.

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18,000, the spotlight on him right now but we want to focus on the people inside the auditorium and why this candidate moves, gary tuchman. gary, what did they say? >> gary, it's anderson, can you hear me? we're on the air. what have you heard from the people you've talked to. >> reporter: anderson, i apologize, i can hear you now. we can tell you donald trump truly knows how to work a crowd. he brags, doesn't use a teleprompter. speech is rambling and redundant but doesn't matter. he can flip and do cartwheels and everyone here would eat it up. this arena fits 18,500 for basketball and hockey. a couple thousand empty seats in the third deck but also a couple thousand people sitting behind me so there probably are 18,500 people. ten hours before this event started, there were hundreds of

people lined up outside. it's a very hot day here in dallas and people were lined up outside. there was no water, no refreshments. some people were old but wanted to get good seats and they said no matter what, they will be here to see donald trump speak. he spoke for an hour, ten minutes. we watched the people. they stayed the whole time. the fact remains, can he be president of the united states? the republican nominee? when we started going to large-scale rallies, people loved him like they do in the arena today but they pause when i ask do you think he could win the republican nomination. today the difference, no one was pausing. the people we talked to inside this building today do believe he could be the republican presidential nominee. >> voiced a lot of support tonight. gary, big thank you. the republican debate on wednesday night, not just for donald trump but dr. ben carson on the program in the next hour. significant developments over on the democratic side.

we'll talk about that, as well in the two-hour live broadcast. that said, the prize for biggest crowd tonight definitely going to donald trump. the volume of the supporters at his rally speaks loudly and so does the number of latino voters around the country. some of them and their supporters marched through dallas today and protesting outside where ed joins us now. ed, what's the crowd like at this point? >> reporter: well, anderson, the organizers of the dump the trump rally that took place outside marched more than a mile from the cathedral in downtown dallas to the american airlines center and held their own rally simultaneously outside of the arena as donald trump was speaking inside. a group made upmostly of latino organizations here in the dallas-fort worth area, organizers say they won't let this opportunity slip by. donald trump obviously commanding a lot of attention with a big stage like here at the american airlines center in

downtown dallas. they weren't going to let this opportunity slide by and point out and really attack what they see as the divisive anti immigrant and words of many people who attended the rally, the racist message behind donald trump and that's what you saw over and over. many of the speakers talked about wanting to galvanize voters and protesters that came out to battle rhetoric that donald trump has been using. obviously two very diabolic different messages, one outside, one inside. two different world as trump supporters inside and activists and protesters outside. so it was past nafascinating to. there were nearly 1500 of them. >> ed, appreciate it. we're live through the next hour. coming up, my interview with dr. ben carson and what he has to say about trump's digs at him

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>> good evening. 9:00 p.m. in new york, 8:00 p.m. in dallas. donald trump specking at a packed american airlines center home to the mavericks. mr. trump name checked bill cuban tonight in the trademark off the cuff style, big night for him and big hour ahead for us including conversation with his rival, dr. ben carson and rival of the republican debate in steamy valley, southern california joined by one of the people asking the questions but first, a sample of donald trump tunnel. >> i have a little debate coming up on