we have a lot more continuing coverage. let's get right to it. shall we? >> let's. >> this this is about changing the system. >> first of all, i want to build a wall. rand paul shouldn't be on this stage. >> donald trump has a bit of a point. >> i promise, if i wanted it, i would have got it. >> stop this childish back and forth. >> i just want that on the record. >> you better be able to lead the country the first day. >> we don't want to hear about your careers. >> this is about the character of our nation. >> i think she's got a beautiful nation and i think she's a beautiful woman. good morning. welcome to this post-debate edition of alisyn camerota, line of the day so many, "same day" not "new day." it's 3:00 in the morning in simi valley, california.

we've literally been up all night but it was worth it. change from new york for us. we are in a big shake-up in the republican race. i wrote it as a question, but i'm saying it as a statement. here's why. donald trump for the first time did not look invincible last night, he took heat from all sides but it was constructive heat. the big name is not donald trump but carly fiorina, could she make it on the big stage? she owned it for most of the night. >> also jeb bush, showing the highlights what were the lowlights and highlights, john berman is at the reagan library. >> it's like a smoldering battlefield the day after. i think i stepped on rand paul's kneecap when i walked in here. you saw the candidates going at each other hard on serious issues. you saw them try to execute their strategy. some with great success. others -- you be the judge. [ applause ]

>> reporter: from nearly the minute the debate started, donald trump was the man in the middle. the middle of a pylon. >> his visceral response to attack people on their appearance, short, tall, fat, ugly, my goodness, that happened in junior high. >> i never attacked him on his look. and believe me, there's plenty of subject matter right there. that, i can tell you. >> reporter: there was trump v. paul, trump v. fiorina about the "rolling stone" argue what he talked about her face. >> i think the women all over this country heard very clearly what mr. trump said. >> i think she's got a beautiful face and i think she's a beautiful woman. >> reporter: no she did not seem impressed nor was jeb in trump v. bush. the subject, the remarks trump made accusing bush for being soft on immigration because his wife was from mexico.

>> i hope you apologize for that, donald. >> i hear she's a lovely woman. >> she is, why don't you apologize to her. >> i can't do that. i hear she's a lovely woman. >> reporter: the 11 were begging the moderator for the chance to get in the game. >> jake -- >> jake -- >> jake -- >> reporter: all with the need to break through, carly fiorina, the newcomer to the stage touched the crowd with sting videos targeting planned parenthood. >> anyone who has watched this videotape, i declare hillary clinton, barack obama, to watch these tapes, watch a fully formed fetus on the table. its heart beating, its legs kicking while someone says we have to keep it alive to harvest its brain. >> reporter: marco rubio flashed passion and knowledge on foreign policy. >> the number one issue a president will ever confront and

the most important legislation that the federal government has is to keep this nation safe. today, we are not doing that, we are eviscerating it. >> reporter: and trump and fiorina flashed their business backed in a tit for tat. >> i run as ceo. >> she can't run my companies. >> you were using our people's money and you were forced to file for bankruptcy. >> i made over $10 billion. >> reporter: so what, who cares, said governor chris christie? >> the fact is, we don't want to hear about your careers, back and forth about who did well and who did poorly. you're both successfully people, congratulations. >> reporter: the debate did have lighter moment or higher. as the case may be. >> 40 years ago, i smoked marijuana, and i admit it. i'm sure a lot of people won't

want to say it in front of 25 million people. my mom's not happy i just did. >> reporter: it came as trump's proposed presidential code day. >> it's very high energy, donald. humble. [ laughter ] >> reporter: and not to be outpartied, lindsey graham who made waves in the first debate with hard-edged anti-terror policy. >> i have a plan to destroy radical islam because it has to be. these are religious nazis running wild. >> reporter: he also came out for hard liquor. >> that's the first thing i'm going to do as president, we're going to drink more. [ applause ] >> strongest comment of the night, some say. >> let's discuss and bring mac maeve reston, cnn's international reporter, john brownstein. and errol lewis.

thank you. when you look at it last night, people had tests. we're not all talking about donald trump as someone who ran away with it. who made it and who fell short jp. >> donald trump had trouble staying in the detail of policy. fiorina, rubio, bush, walker, i think there were six in all, but when he wasn't doing that, he wasn't really, i think, as front and center at all. look, i think carly fiorina, marco rubio had had very strong nights. i think chris krity and rand paul reasserted themselves, and i think jeb bush had some good moments. i thought john kasich laid out a theory of the case. republicans have lost five out of six elections. that's the backdrop here. they're looking to get in the white house. with kasich and graham all about

outreach. and people like ted cruz and donald trump and rick santorum and bobby jindal are more about mobilizing the base. i think you saw a party that is still in search of the formula that will take it back to the white house. that was my big take-away from the debate. >> hey, errol, what did you see? >> i thought fiorina did extremely well. i will agree with ron that there was a lot more diversity. there were a lot more interesting conversations and policy differences than we've heard up until now. the head line had that donald trump issues a personal insult, a juvenile remark. instead, you actually had a policy debate. there were some very interesting differences between the candidates like, what to do with marijuana policy. there are some think it's a gateway drug and shouldn't be used at all. there are others who felt differently. it was a fascinate three hours. >> carly fiorina may have shut

down several conversations with insight and is intelligence on medical marijuana. she did it a different way. tell us what happened with that. kind of surprised the crowd. >> that was an interesting moment where she actually got personal and talked about losing a child. in her case, it actually was her stepdaughter. but it was really an unusual moment for her. she doesn't usually show that more revealing personal side. so, that certainly, was something that people will be talking about, going forward. >> and it was startling because people hadn't heard that story. she looked right into the camera. she said, i know about this, i lost a child. people said, what does that mean? she has in her book, this is a new plan for her it sounds like. >> right. it certainly was not during the 2010 campaign for senate. it was certainly something that was talked about but more kind of like in the shadows. it wasn't something that she brought up. >> the test for fiorina is do

you stand toe to toe here or the gravitas or just a business person? this was a conversation about medical marijuana that was sort of getting into the weeds. as it were. >> all right. >> but listen to this. listen to the actual moment, you'll see how she elevated what had been a petty conversation. >> i very much hope that i am the only person on this stage who can say this, but i know there are millions of americans who will say the same thing. my husband frank and i buried a child to drug addiction. so, we must invest more in the treatment of drugs. >> up to this, it had been federal, state and then this. >> her conclusion, to that point, it was a very dramatic and personal moment, it humanized her more than anything else. there was one downside of the performance. it seemed a little scripted at moments. it was her conclusion. the conclusion is, the war on drugs has been a failure. chris chris tishgs the war on

drugs has been a failure. rand paul. i mean, we saw some new notes here. >> in the house of reagan, right? >> right. you had rick santorum and ben carson talking about raising it. donald trump defending progressive taxation. as i said, we had a really wide range of views about what is the policy mix that would lead republicans to getting back the national majority which after all is the point of this. you can lose sight, when you're in the bubble of a primary and you're talking to your own people of whether you're on track to actually produce a winning majority. walter monday daily thought he was producing a winning majority. this guy behind us won 49 states that year. and republicans have to -- i think, you know, the hard part is keeping two things in sight at the same time, nomination and building a majority coalition at the general election. >> we started with the graphic saying does trump stay on top

after this. >> what are people saying? what's the reaction? >> this campaign has been donald trump versus everyone else. i think the question that will be answered in the coming days is this, has his support been built on the ridiculous moments, or in spite of the ridiculous moments? do they need, the supporters need that crack, that political crack to keep going? we didn't really get that much. yeah, there were a few moments. i don't know what he did to rand paul. >> he went after his looks. >> but what we saw was trump talking about the issues, you know in a much less caustic way, so -- >> although without much substance, right? >> we thought he was going to do something else. into we thought he was going to be more statesman-like. the face of his campaign. as the policy discussion got deeper and deeper into the evening, that is when donald trump completely receded. he did not jump in the way christie and dors. >> i think it's interesting that

it could be -- if you follow that, it could be then that it's just time that wears trump down. it's not one slipup. people waiting for the big slipdown. >> trump is not likely -- if trump does not move all the way through this, more like plateau than collapse. i agree, trump, i thought, really receded as the policy debate got deeper. i thought one reception. donald trump is running twice as well with republicans without a college degree. in the abc news/"washington post" poll he was at 40% among noncollege republicans. he. >> and do you believe his number comes down? >> i think it will come down a little bit. i think -- again, i think it's more -- the question for trump, i don't think he's going to -- nothing happened last night that will cause him to collapse. when he said, in this country, we speak english, not spanish.

that's again, what i was going tos that is something that is talking to the people that he is attracting which is ultimately an issue if you're looking at november 2016. >> i'm sorry, we have to leave it there. we have so much to talk about this morning, errol, we owe you one. john, thanks so much. on "new day" in the 7:00 hour, we'll be speaking live to carly fiorina about her performance in last night's debate. what did she think was the best and most memorable moment and also governor christie here. in the 8:00, we're going to hear from the democratic side with contender bernie sanders. what did he like? what did he not like? also up next, we're going to have the interview with donald trump right after the debate. you often get the best sense of how they feel about themselves, here's a taste. >> it was a beautiful time. i had an amazing time. >> he was tired. he also may have been a little

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all right. back here in simi valley, california. what just happened? i'll tell you what -- the race for the gop nominee has changed, that's what happened. donald trump did not dominate. we saw a different donald during and after the debate. we spoke to him in the first post debate interview he did. he seemed to feel the strain. take a listen. >> so, after speaking to your family, what did they say about how you were tonight? >> they were very proud and happy. it was a beautiful time. i had an amazing time. three hours is a record-selling debate. i guess you were selling a lot of commercials during that. so they increased it. i guess it was supposed to be two. they were very professional the way they handled it. cnn did a great job. >> well, we agree with that. who do you think came out on top with the best ideas for the american people? >> i think everybody did very well. nobody did poorly. i was very impressed.

>> anybody more than anybody else? >> i would never say. i think certain people did really well. >> carly fiorina is getting a lot of good buzz coming out of the debate? >> i think she's a really nice person. really, i think everybody did well personally. >> do you feel that you did something differently tonight than you did in the first debate? >> no, i think probably the first debate went very well for me also. they both went very well. they're saying very nice things. i just heard a couple people come over and say, wow, that was great. i think i'm very happy with both performances actually. >> there seems to have been more discussion amongst the candidates during the breaks and after here in this degrebate th the first one. >> i think that's true. well, we're getting to know each other. even though it's tough, we are getting to know each other. you develop relationships. i have a lot of repeekt for people on the stage. >> what have you learned after tonight? >> well i learned i have no

trouble standing for three hours. literally, it must be a record. i hope that the audience is okay. i actually think it's a little too long. i learned that we have a lot of talent in the republican party and i think we're going to do very welcome election day. >> when you look to your left and right, do you think you still stand above those who want the job? >> i'll never say that. i think i'll do a great jobs. i think i'll be the greatest jobs producer than there ever has been in this country. that's what i do ceo, i was number one in leadership, number one in terms of economy with jobs. you know the fall very well. many times. i think i would certainly do an unbelievable job of putting the country back to work. and literally, i think people would be extremely happy and extremely prould of our country. >> you can point to anything you heard tonight where you listened and thought, you know what, i like that idea, i think i'm going to use that? >> well, i think i think i heard

a lot of things we'll discuss it at your show at length because i have a whole family here. >> do you have a process? what are you doing now? >> i'm getting on the plane to new york. new hampshire, iowa. i'm going all over the place. we're having a lot of fun. the phones have been amazing. the receptivity has been marvelous. in dallas, we sold out the mavericks arena. in mobile, alabama, 31,000 people. the response has been incredible. they like what i'm saying. >> what does it mean to your family in the crowd, your daughter and son? >> it's great. to have them, they seem to be so receptive. i could see they were giving me the high-five. >> well, bianca must have liked. >> we had a good time. >> if the polls come out and trump was on top, would you be surprised? >> no i wouldn't. i think everybody did very well but i think i did very well.

>> first of all, he was very tired. he keeps talking about the time, i think there's two reasons, he's right. it was a long debate. two, it's harder for him, everybody is coming at him and he knows it it so he has to be aware. i think last night, the game elevated around him. i think he's going to have to figure out what that means to him. >> by the end of your little chopper, he segued back to vintage trump. it was great. i'm great. >> he was a little shell-shocked. >> at first. >> i think carly fiorina hit him with shots last night he didn't expect. >> there's so much to talk about, the reviews are pouring from this hour from last night's gop debate, trump, fiorina, bush, they're the ones getting the buzz. were there any casualties of the showdown? we'll talk about that when our debate coverage continues.

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us is amanda carpeter. former j.w. bush political director of theed me. great to have you guys. what a night. >> wow. >> okay, let's talk about some of the candidates that are not getting as much buzz this morning. and whether or not they were able to see some bump. let's talk about scott walker who is, right after, i found him in the screen room and we had an exchange about the poll numbers, let's listen to this. you have been struggling a bit in the polls, do you think tonight was a breakthrough moment? >> what i heard in iowa, a lot of people said to me in cafe and diners, you're one of my top two out there. i want to see the passion when you took on the union bosses and the washington-based special interests, i think we showed that tonight. >> did any of the lower

candidates have a breakflew moment? >> no i don't think so. nobody really blew it which was a little bit of a price, i think what people did, they fell into type cast. huckabee, strong to conservatives. christie, the tough prosecutor. rand paul, legalize drugs, they kind of, these candidates that are having trouble breaking through, they fell into their niche. niche isn't going to get it done. scott walker, i think it was 30% than the first one. >> let's fold in jindal, santorum and lindsey graham into that as well. >> that's right. >> if you fall into the niche, naturally, you say it's not enough, but there is a survival, this is an existential battle going on. when the numbers shake out who do you think moves down? >> i have a hard time thinking ben carson maintains his number two status.

>> you don't think he was strong enough? >> i don't think he was strong enough. particularly, he gave bizarre answers on the minimum wage. two minimum wages and as sort of to reasonableness. this is kind of stuff that isn't the conservative bloodstream by any means. also, let's talk about donald trump, as candidates talked more about issues, he faded away. >> do you thing his number goes down in the next poll? >> it's hard to say because he's been so bulletproof in this experience so far. but he did not hang on to pose issues. >> his numbers are not going down. his number's not going down. he appealed to the same voters he's been appealing to. they don't want details on policy. they want him to take a 2 x 4 to washington. >> mercedes, good or bad? >> obviously, carly dominated the stage. it was amazing with that first answer. i think we were waiting for that big punch against trump. but she really made up with it

along in the performance. i'd also say senator marco rube beyoshgs when he talked about the foreign policy, very subt substanti substantive, going after trump on that issue. saying you got to be ready with day one. i think jeb bush came across with a lot of humor and really able to be more relaxed and again take a punch at donald trump. again, donald trump, there was a point where he was speechless. there was like 37 minutes of silence that you didn't hear donald trump. quite frankly, he was so uncomfortable talking about any issues except for immigration which going back to matt's point, the niche. >> we did see donald trump level his answer on immigration. he didn't change it but there was more empathy. but this wasn't about a measuring stick for him. although you make a great point as the conversation elevates will he match pace?

i still think donald trump had a test last night. he had to stand next to jeb bush and say you are not stronger than i am. here's what had happened. >> did mr. trump go too far in invoking your wife? >> he did. he did. you're proud of your family just as i am. to subject my wife into the middle of a raucous political conversation was completely innape, i hope you apologize about that donald. >> i have to tell you, i hear phenomenal things. i hear your wife is a lovely woman. >> she is. she's right here. why don't you apologize to her right now. >> i won't do that because i said nothing wrong. she's a lovely woman. >> amanda, that was just like an awkward sandwich right there. what was happening? who do you think came out better in that exchange? >> listen, jeb had to show he was willing to engage donald trump in this debate. he tried to do it several times. if i were being attacked and my husband was standing up for him.

i wouldn't expect him to say i hope you apologize. he should have said apologize now. a lot of women were listening to that. >> i think jeb was feistier in this debate. jeb doesn't come across as a schoolyard bully. jeb comes across as the bookish kid who is thoughtful. but he fought back. >> ammercedes, what was your impression? >> for jeb bush, the conversation was the w. one area you don't go to is his wife. and i think what he said, is wait a second, we got to stop attacking not only my wife but immigrants in general. i think he was throwing in his remarks. >> thanks for all your

perspectives. let's get to mik in new york. >> yeah, obviously, the debate ahead. first, breaking news overnight. at least five people are dead, several others are hurt, following that powerful 8.3 magnitude earthquake that hit central chile wednesday. the quake hit northwest of the capital of santiago and triggered massive waves along the coast. 1 million people have been evacuated so far. massive flooding, submerged several communities. we're getting some reports of strong aftershocks. tsunami alerts meanwhile has been posted for peru, hawaii, southern california and new zealand. we'll keep an eye on that situation. as breaking this morning, the government in jeopardy, heavy gunfire by security forces. multiple reports saying they were warning shots to disperse a group at the capital's main

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we're going to talk about carson's debate with one of the members of his team, his friend and business manager, armstrong williams. there he is. good to have you, sir. we'll talk to you in a moment.

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they were trying to set up you against donald trump in terms of how you felt about deporting the 11 million undocumented immigrants. but it seems you didn't take the bait. >> i didn't, and i offered him an opportunity to explain how that could be done. >> but he didn't do it. >> not surprising. >> i mean, did you think that he gave enough specifics? >> probably not at this stage of the game. >> that was part of our post debate interview with dr. ben carson commenting on the performance of his biggest rival on stage last night, donald trump. how did carson do on everything. let's bring in armstrong williams, he's ben carson business manager and on xm radio. armstrong, good to see you. i want to start with that

moment, that was a great opportunity for dr. carson that he didn't take. donald trump didn't explain how he was going to deport the 11 million estimated undocumented immigrants here. and dr. carson could have gone at him stronger, somehow, he seemed to be treating trump with kid gloves, what do you think? >> good morning, he was not treating anyone with kid gloves. actually, it's just his style. he feels that the american people are intelligent enough to understand that the question was not answered. and he did not need to remind him, because he's just not combat eye. but i'll tell you that may surprise you and chris is that dr. carson was far better last night than he was in the first debate. he's getting more and more comfortable with the format. the format allowed a lot of conversation back and forth. dr. carson clearly wants to be a gentleman. he doesn't want to get in your face. he wants to state his position. he got a chance to state a position, whether it was on the minimum wage. whether he was talking about the

free phones, there's nothing free. whether he was talking about iraq he got into foreign affairs. dr. carson continues as he is to gain momentum, to gain steam, and we don't think in any way that his favorability ratings will be impacted in any way. he will remain steady. it's never been his goal of the campaign to always search ahead because you become the target. as long as you stay within the top five, he's very satisfied with that. >> okay. well, then it comes to your measure of success. i've moving my hand back and forth, maybe no, maybe yes, armstrong. some people say he didn't do enough to solidify himself as number two. you're saying he's okay being in the top five. but it go to the demeanor of a fighter. people want a fighter for them right now. especially in tough times. dr. carson said he's from detroit. last night, he had a chance to take on fights but he didn't. he showed scrutiny.

he's in no rush to come back on the show with me because he doesn't like what he said about gay say choice. and do you think he has to defend himself and defend his position showing that he's better? >> you know, fights take place in many arenas, chris. doesn't necessarily mean they take place in a national debate where you have little time going back and forth. when dr. carson is in iowa, south carolina, new hampshire and these other places and these formats, people see his fight. they see his spine. they see his back done. they see he ask explain these issues in great depth. he goes back and forth. that is why when dr. carson is away in areas away from the big lights of the cameras that he's able to connect. it just does not play to his strength. sometimes, you have to realize the strength and weaknesses of people. dr. carson will not be the combative one.

he'll never be aggressive. you'll never see the fire in him that saw in others. you just have to accept it. when you've been a pediatric surgeon for almost 30 years, you have to remain calm and remain engaged with every movement of that body. it's not going to change all of a sudden because he's on a national stage and a presidential candidate. we don't have those expectations for him because it's just not realistic. >> you know, armstrong, there was something else going on particularly in terms of body language. it wasn't that he was picking a fight with donald trump. he almost seemed differential. they shared a high five, a handshake. what was that about? >> of course, you know the answer to that, mr. trump obviously was the one who initiated all the high-fives, the handshakes. it was not dr. carson. what do you think dr. carson is going to do? he's not going to reach back? he's a gentleman. >> armstrong, i get it. but you sound like you're making

the case for somebody to be the chief neurosurgeon in a hospital. being president of the united states is not something that just plays out in private. you engage the people publicly. you know this, and you know how to do-it-yourself very well. it can't be when he's with 14 people he's very strong. when he's in front of 14 million, he likes to sit back. this is a leader. it's about coming out and being your best on the biggest stage. the question is, will he do that better going forward, what's your thought? >> chris cuomo, listen, he's better at that with the 14 million than 11 people on stage. listen, dr. carson is dr. carson. the american people understand his gentleness. they can see his fire. they can see his strength. there's no -- without question, that he's a leader. chris, you and i both understand that leaders are sometimes formed differently. and they're formed differently for our times. and while you may feel you need the fight of a donald trump, and the fire.

and the kind of strife that we see in the world and the domestic policies that we have to confront in this country, while you may want more from dr. carson, i understand you want more because it's more entertaining and more pleasing to the eyes and ears but for dr. carson he will always be a quiet, thoughtful, interactive and methodical leader. it's not going to change now between now and the next presidential elections. it's not going to change. it's who he is. >> and voters seem to be responding that he is different. you're right about all of that, armstrong williams, thanks for being on "new day." >> and as a study and contrast, we'll have you on again, armstrong. thank you. dr. carson popped in the polls but so did carly fiorina. boy, did she go about it differently than dr. carson and everybody else on that stage. she's here, we're going to talk

to her live about how she brought it last night. what is her opinion and how it's go forward. we also have governor chris christie, he played an interesting role. the 8:00 hour, we got the other side, senator bernie sanders. what did he think about last night and how does he size up? stay with us. also, we'll tell you about what real voters think.

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thomas, and daille thomas. you all watched on television. let me start with you, what did you think about donald trump's performance? >> i thought it was wonderful. i thought he held his own. he did very well. he was a bit toned back but donald trump speaks exactly what the u.s. needs to hear. >> let's play a little of what he said last night, we'll ask you what you think, go ahead. >> first of all, rand paul shouldn't even be on this stage. >> i never attacked him. believe me, there's plenty of subject matter there. i heard governor pataki who by the way was a failed governor in new york. say very serious failure. folks in iowa found out about the job you did in wisconsin, all of a sudden, you, too. >> when you hear him taking people on, whether it's in response or gratuitously, mario, what about it makes you like him

more? >> well, donald trump is a very savvy businessman. he knows exactly what he wants. he knows what the united states needs. donald trump taking on people who have attacked him is simply his way of getting back. but donald trump knows exactly what his plan is for the u.s. >> have you heard those plans? >> i don't think i've heard all of them. i think i've heard enough to get my vote in his corner. >> dale, what did you think carly fiorina's performance. >> >> i thought carly did a fabulous job. i definitely thought she won the debate hands down. she's smart, she's savvy and she's got the right face to lead this country. >> you there go. and that was a big moment, where she said the women around this country have heard you clearly in response what what donald trump said. what did you think was her breakout moment. >> i think that was a breakout

moment i have respect for a woman who can use a scalpel instead of a sledgehammer to get the job done. and she did. >> jake, what stood out to you? >> i think carly fiorina definitely stood out a lot. i think like we said before, she was concise, she was on point. she wasn't afraid to fight back which i think is important. i think she represented california voters as well. i think it's great that we somebody not from the political class rising up. the last time we saw that, we saw something great. >> you were leaning toward marco rubio going into this? >> i was, yes. >> is it because you look like him or what resonates? >> it's definitely not because i look like him. it's because marco resonates points concisely and clearly. i listened him talk several times. he never messes up. he keeps on point. every time he says something he knows what he's talking about.

>> a demonstration of that came on foreign policy where he shone a little bit. let's tack take a look. >> you are saying don't have the knowledge that mr. trump has? >> you should ask him questions about the foreign policy that the president will confront because you better be able to lead on the first day. our president could very well face a national security crisis. you can't predict it. sometimes, you can't control it. >> now, you said you saw other people, carly, you liked that he's from california. did rubio help or hurt last night? >> i think he wasn't allowed to speak as i would personally like. i think when he did speak, he showed he had the knowledge and messages to get across. i think people like rubio and carly resonate with people of my generation, the millennial generation. that's because rubio is able to

present conservative points in a way that hits home with people. i think he's able to be principled, while also being kind and uniting. i think that really showed during the part where he discussed how his grandfather came from cuba. how he adopted conservative principles, even though he didn't fully speak english. >> mario, i want to ask you about donald trump again. jake tapper tried to get specifics out of him about the 11 million undocumented immigrants, how did they go with that? are you okay with him not explaining his plan? >> i'm okay with that. what you saw last night was every other politician already telling us how arduous this task was going to be. each and every one of them said what a fiasco it would be to do

this. donald trump is not speaking of that. donald trump knows the issue. the issue is that wall. it has to be built. he knows that moving them out is not something that can't happen, it has to happen. >> the how, to you, you think he'll figure out? >> he's a business man, he's a builder. he's an engineer. he knows exactly how it will be done. besides, moving them out isn't really the issue. we've got to build that wall. we need that wall built. we need it done. everything starts at the wall. inside that wall things will start to develop. things will start -- together, it will become focused for the u.s. >> mario, gale, jacob, thanks for coming in. we have so much more of our continuing debate coverage. let's get right to it. >> more energy tonight, like

that. >> i dare hillary clinton, barack obama to watch these tapes. >> i'm a republican in new jersey. >> and this about is changing the system. >> his visceral response to attack people on their appearance. >> i never attacked him on his look. >> we are in fact the a-team. >> 40 years ago i smoke marijuana. >> first thing i'm going it do as president week going to drink more. >> i think women all over this country heard very clearly what mr. trump said. >> she's a beautiful woman. >> it's very high energy, donald. [ laughter ] [ applause ] good morning, everyone. welcome back to this special post debate edition of "new day." mikaela, of course, is isn't new york with other news. christian and ire coming to you live from the reagan library in simi valley, california. home of second republican

debate. it was seen right here last night on cnn last night. this was anything but the donald trump show. in fact, some people say he receded into the background as other candidates took center stage. >> i'll tell you one reason if people believe that is because of the woman sitting right next to us right now. carly fiorina is the name coming out of the debate the most this morning. social media, the different assessments of the debate. you know her, the hewlett packard ceo, landing clean blows on trump, but also in her own cause. some of the most memorable moments. she's got a big smile on her face this morning. good to see you. >> morning. >> smiles not something too much we saw from you last night. what was your mind-set going in. and what do you think worked for you? >> well we were talking about serious subjects last night in many cases so a smile is not always appropriate. look, going into last night, half the audience had never heard my name and didn't know i was running for president.

so it was really important opportunity for me to introduce myself to the american people. and to show them that i can win this job and i can do this job. >> a lot of people were waiting for a moment that you and donald trump came to blows, or had some sort of exchange. and there were many of them. so let's watch a little portion of you and donald trump last night. >> you know, it's interesting to me, mr. trump said that he heard mr. bush very clearly. in what mr. bush said. i think women all over this country heard very clearly what mr. trump said. [ applause ] >> i think she's got a beautiful face and i think she's a beautiful woman. >> what did you think of that moment? what did you think of when he said that you have a beautiful

face and now you're a beautiful person? >> you know, it's still different for women. it's only a woman whose appearance would be talked about while running for president. never a man. and i think that's what women understand. that's why women understood what donald trump said about my face in the first place. and also what he said about my face in the second place. the point is, women are half this nation. women are half the potential of this nation. but somehow, we still spend a lot of time talking about women's appearance. instead of their qualifications. >> what gave you the wherewithal and desire to do what nobody else has done in this race on your side the field yet which was i'm not just going to wait to respond to donald trump. i'm going at him and toe to toe. and i'm going to fight him. you did that more than anybody else last night. why? >> well, first, i hope it's pretty clear that i am a

fighter. i have also been the most vocal critic of hillary clinton on the campaign trail. presumably the democrat party's nominee. this is going to be a fight. this is an important election. and we're going to have a fight about really important principles. and really important policies. and really important differences. so if you can't fight on a debate stage, then you're not going to be able to stand up and fight for the american people. and the american people are looking for a fighter. they know this is a pivotal time in history they know these are important issues i'm prepared to fight. >> you did something different last night. you shared a personal moment about a tragedy in your family. let's listen. >> i very much hope that i am the on person on this stage who can say this, but i know there are millions of americans who will say the same thing, my husband frank and i buried a

child to drug addiction. so we must invest more in the treatment of drugs. >> that surprised people that you had that in your background. you can tell us more about that? >> well, there are so many families who have gone through this or are going through this. and it is an epidemic now. in so many parts of our country. >> drug abuse? >> yes. drug abuse. we don't invest in its treatment. we need to tackle criminal justice reform. but anyone who's gone through this, shows that it is tragic to watch someone's life ebb away in the clutches of the demons of addiction. >> speak to that, mrs. fiorina. look, there's an emotional place when you open up your life like this, but you know that is part of politics. >> it is.

>> and certainly something that you thought was important enough to say on the debate stage. what was it like for your husband, people say it's weakness of character, it's poor choices, it's criminal behavior. what did you learn through your own life about the realities of this problem, what's misunderstood, what's needed? >> well, this can afflict anyone. it afflicts millions. it is described in so many communities in our nation now as an epidemic. it touches every part of our society. it's not just about poor. it's about poor middle class, rich, men, women, young, old. we -- the war on drugs has failed. we need a different approach. i mentioned criminal justice reform briefly. you know, we have the highest

incarceration rates in the world. two-thirds of the people sitting in jail are there for nonviolent drug-related offenses. it's not working. we're not investing enough in this. and so, it's a terrible tragedy, while of course it's difficult to talk about, i think it's also very important to talk about. so that families that are suffering through this know that they should not feel ashamed or stigmatized. that we must produce help. that we need to invest more. you know, it's interesting when i'm on the campaign trail and sometimes this will come up, always, and it's so generous of them, but always people will come up to me and say, the same thing is happening to me. we're suffering with this in my family. two people came up with me last night after the debate and said i lost a child to addiction. >> i want to ask you about your experience during the debate. it seemed to me, this is

unofficial, i was trying to take notes, that you got the most applause. the things that you said, the crowd responded to the most. were you surprised at how much applause you got last night? >> you know, i've been out on the campaign trail since may. and despite the fact that i have, before last night, at least, the lowest name i.d. in the field, people respond. so i am not surprised that people respond. because actually, folks are tired of politics. they're tired of politicians. they're looking for leadership. so i could engage the applause. you know, i was very focused on what was happening on that stage. and thinking about what i wanted to convey. but i'm not surprised that people respond. i've been out there a long time talking to a lot of people every single day and i know how they response. >> i'll take the other side of it, i think there's a different experience with you're in close settings like this and the big

stage. i'm not saying you were intimidated by it. we thought you were going to do well last night. you just did better than we even expected. but they're looking for a leader. but it's going to be a person they pick, not just policies. the fair criticism of trump is you have to put meat on the bones, you explosioned that last night. but they need to get to know carly more, who is carly? who is she somebody that she can feel safe with and somebody that cares? >> you know, i started out as a secretary in a nine-person real estate firm. my story is only possible in this nation. and it's proof, actually, that everyone has potential. every one of us has god-given gifts. i know that. i've seen it over and over again. so, i come to this with the firm belief that no one of us is any better than any other of us.

each of us has enormous potential. and i'm running for the presidency of the united states because i truly believe, and so do the american people, that their possibilities are being crushed, regardless of their circumstances. this is about, i think, a leader in the oval office who will provide the opportunities. the tools, the support, every single american, regardless of their circumstances, to finally use their god-given gifts. i've been through very bad times. i've buried a child. i've beaten cancer. i've had good times and bad. i have been tested. and i'm not going to falter on this campaign and i won't falter in the white house either. >> i heard you described this morning as donald trump's kryptonite. you can take that as you will. what did you think about his performance last night? was donald trump as feisty as you were expecting? >> i think the audience has to

decide what they thing of donald trump's performance. listen, honestly, i will tell you the truth, i think we have spent -- the media, frankly, has spent way too much time talking about the entertainment aspects of this. the performance aspects of this, donald trump, personally. i think people, when i'm out on the trail, i'm never asked a single question about donald trump. the only people that ask me about donald trump are the media. what voters want to know is what's going to impact their life? they're concerned about their lives. so, i hope going forward, people can decide what they thought of donald trump's performance. that's not for me to say. but i really hope going forward that we can have a more substantive conversation about the things impacting people's lives. >> did it go better than you expected last night? >> well, i certainly was hoping that i would get an opportunity to say what i wanted to say. >> you took the opportunity. >> yes, i did.

>> you weren't always given them. you took them. that is part of what you were going to do. >> that is true as well. as i went through the i think, i had things i wanted to say, i would write them down. i got lieu all of the things i wanted to say. i would have notes to myself. i'd like to make this point. i got to my point. i'm satisfy. >> i bet. that's a big about accomplishment. thanks so much for getting up early with us. you. >> you guys are up early, too. >> great talking to you, carly fiorina. >> you're always welcome on the we're calling it "same day. ". you just heard from carly fiorina getting a lot of buzz. and we're also going to hear from governor chris christie. he played an interesting role last night, you'll hear from him live. and then what did the opposition think?

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your brother and your brother's administration gave us barack obama because it was such a disaster last those three months that abraham lincoln couldn't have been elected. >> you know what, as relates to my brother, there's one thing i know for sure, he kept us safe. i don't know if you remember -- [ applause ] >> a very different jeb bush took to the stage last night. he spoke solidly on policy. defends his family and his record. most directly to and against donald trump. so, what kind of night did he have? is it going to change this fate?

does he answer the questions he needed to? campaign manager danny diaz, it's important to have you. it's about what jeb bush did last night and why he wanted to do it. what did jeb bush want to show about himself versus trump? >> just the understanding do we have the candidate with the most accomplished conservative record in the field. we wants to community that, to highlight that he has the achievements in florida, creating jobs, putting money in the rainy day account. cutting taxes, year after year, aaa ba bond rating, he has a str record. right after the debate you tweeted something. >> you said fact at jeb bush shut down at donald trump.

>> what was it that you thought shut him down? >> mr. trump felt that mr. clinton was the best qualified person to negotiate the iran deal. and he talked about keeping his brother safe. and i felt like governor bush was very strong in that moment. and when he discusses the issues and he's providing substance. you know, that's a comparison that we like a lot. >> well, look, the tweet stands in contrast to the answer you gave before. i understand why, you're balancing a line. at some point with trump and bush, you've got this man-to-man issue here that has developed between the two. and it came out in a discussion about jeb bush's wife last night. let's play the moment. >> did mr. trump go too far in invoking your wife? >> he did. he did. you're prod of your family just as i am. to subject my wife into the middle of a raucous political conversation was completely inappropriate. and i hope you apologize for that, donald.

>> i have to tell you, i hear phenomenal things. i hear your wife is lovely. >> she is, he's fantastic. why don't you apologize to her right now? >> i won't do that because i said nothing wrong. i do hear she's a lovely woman. >> i get what he was trying to do there. for this to be effective. didn't he have to tell trump, not i hope, not please do. apologize. is that what he was trying to do? >> to effectively communicate the message when donald trump is running across the country making offensive comments i think that was brought to the floor tonight. from the governor's perspective, we like this comparison. i think we have the best message. we welcome the opportunities to verse ourselves. >> i understand the moment, what was the beef? all donald trump had said he thought governor bush would be more simple sthet tick to mexicans because he married an immigrant. where was the offense?

why was that so insulting? >> i think donald trump has absolutely tried to castigate folks. and he tried in this case. his values are what he is, and what he believes. i thought governor bush pointed that out clearly. >> he was looking to his right last night a lot which is where trump is. how about looking to his left. with carly fiorina. carly fiorina ate a lot of people's lunch on that stage last night. she was strong and aggressive. she did to trump what i guess you were trying to do with governor jeb bush. she went right at him. what did you think? >> i thought carly had a good night. i thought jeb had a good night. we understand it's one night of a long campaign. this morning, it's get up, back in the field. we're not going to elect a president in september. we're going to elect a president next year. we have a campaign that's durable. well financed and strong

support. i'm very confident when all the cards are dealt around the table that jeb bush will be the nominee. >> where quickly, where does that focus next? >> new hampshire, nevada, south dakota. we believe, once again, this is about the most important office in the country. >> is he on a big ebb coming up? bigger than before. say big ad right now i hear number us of $25 million. what's the message? >> best conservative will match up against anybody in the field. >> thank you for coming on "new day." >> extend the invitation to the governor. we'd love to have him on. >> you got it. there were fireworks from the start, hope you tuned into the cnn debate. a lot more from donald trump and rand paul.

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while i'm as entertained as anyone about this personal back and forth about the history of donald and carly's career. to the 55-year-old construction worker tonight who doesn't have a job and can't fund his child's education, i've got to tell you the truth, they could careless about your careers. they care about theirs. you're both successful people. you know whose not successfully the middle class in this country getting plowed over by barack obama and hillary clinton. let's stop this childish back and forth between the two of you. >> that was new jersey governor chris christie unloading on two of the outsiders on stage, of course, that was trump and fiorina last night. there were a lot of fiery moments. let's talk about them with maeve reston and washington correspondent jeff zeleny. let's talk about that.

was that effective saying you guys are too childish? do people want to see them engage with one another? >> i thought it was effective. i think was one of chris christie's better moments. people sitting at home aren't all that sympathetic to the donald trump and carly fiorina back and forth. it was the side of chris christie the bully we like to see. kind of a nice bully who is sticking up for the kid. >> construction worker. >> the construction worker. >> and speaking of those fights, trump came right out of the box and did what we were told he would not do, which was just go straight at somebody gratuito gratuitously, let's take a look. >> i think really there's a sophomore quality that is entertaining about mr. trump. but i am worried i'm very concerned about having him in charge of the nuclear weapons. i think his response, his visceral response to attack people on their appearance,

short, tall, fat, ugly, iness, that happened in junior high. would we not all be worried to have someone in charge of the nuclear weapons. >> mr. trump. >> i never attacked him on his look. and believe me, there's plenty of subject matter right there. >> fair point. fair point, though, had he didn't start it. that's the test for donald trump. >> that's what he always says, that he didn't start it. there's been plenty of back and forth between those two. that was completely gratuitous, sort of off the top. i think it set the wrong tone going into the debate. >> they were talking about nuclear weapons and he pivoted to rand paul's looks. >> yeah. >> paul said there's a sophomore quality for him. >> it was definitely a moment for donald trump to rise to the occasion and show he could be a different candidate. he chose not to do it. the question for donald trump,

traditional rules apply. is he going to stay where he is and not evolve as a candidate. i think that was an example, he is who he is. i thought it was actually a funny moment. rand paul is not that sympathetic of a character. >> especially last night, he was dow dower. >> he was dower. >> can we talk about donald trump's lack of a poker face. he was like leaning on the podium. >> he went through the whole emoji thing. >> but why? remember who he is? this guy knows who he is. how do you get attention on television? you make a face. he's able to get attention. >> he's not presidential. the faces he was making were not presidential. were they working or not work for the voters? >> entertaining. >> he knew the split screen was up. again, i think it works for

donald trump, but was he try to be presidential on the stage last night? >> who even knows what it means anymore. i got slapped around in an interview, when you return every barb that comes your way, it's not presidential, you got to rise above. people came at me saying who are you to say what is presidential. presidential is what pleddial is presidential is in the moment. >> there are no rules. i want to talk about the debate with the lower sphere of candidates. that was entertaining, substantive debate. and lindsey graham, people -- thank, i saw michael reagan, one of president reagan's sons, he said lindsey graham is on fire because he had so many zingers. let me play for you just one of what he says he would do if he were president. >> round rnald reagan did a couf big things that we should remember. he sat down with tip o'neal, the most liberal guy in the entire house. they started drinking together.

that's the first thing i'm going to do as president. we're going to drink more. >> so, i mean -- lindsey graham in the first debate was not the usual lindsey graham. this was vintage lindsey graham last night. tons of zingers. he's witty, quick off the cuff. that was a lively, substantive debate. that served as a take-away for all of this. republicans had a lot there to like among the other candidates last night. >> did any of them jump to a different echelon? >> i think lindsey graham could. there are some on fumes their campaigns are too big. scott walker. this fund-raising period that's about to end at the end of this month say key moment here. so he may be in the next debate if a couple people drop out. we don't know if they will or not. lindsey graham is lean and mean. it's him in a rental car across

the country. he could be in the next debate. >> the standings changed last night. that's my prediction. i'm not saying in dramatic ways. i'm not saying that donald trump is not on the top. >> it will be interesting when the first polls come out. maeve, jeff, thanks so much. chris christie played a very unique role that was in a way christie-esque. and in a way not. he's going to come on, the governor of new jersey and tell you why he does what he feels. and in the next hour, democratic candidate bernie sanders. you'll get a chance to feel the burn, ladies and gentlemen. right now, let's get to mich in new york. >> i'll do that. first, breaking overnight, five people are dead several others are injured following that powerful 8.3 magnitude earthquake that hit central chile wednesday. the quake hit northwest of the capital of santiago.

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>> i hope you apologize for that donald. >> i hear phenomenal things. your wife is a lovely woman. >> she is, she's fantastic. she's right here, why don't you apologize to her right now. >> i won't do that because i said nothing wrong. >> he said he said nothing wrong. should jeb bush have pushed further with him. number two moment, carly fiorina taking aim at planned parenthood. in has become a lightning rod for gop contenders this campaign season. one of her quotes, while someone says we have to keep it alive to harvest its brain, that's getting a lot of play. but i kind of need a drum roll from the guys in the studios. nothing, guys? come on. here's the number one trending moment from last night's event. carly versus trump. jake tapper asking carly to

respond to that article in "rolling stone" magazine, look at that face. many women have regarded it as an attack on her looks. she fired back. >> i think she's got a beautiful face and i think she's a beautiful woman. >> here's the question, was she buying it? i don't know. i don't know. another thing we can look at are the top mentions on twitter. you can see going into the debate, donald trump was already strong in the polls. he was strong on twitter getting 22.7% of the mentions. the next highest with 8.62 percent is jeb bush followed by carly fiorina who had a strong performance last night as well. air time, you can see how things measured up, last time in the fox news debate. this time around, i believe if i touch it, we'll show you how we did last night at cnn debate. donald trump getting the most time, just under 20 minutes. bush coming in at 18.

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good to have you back on both coasts on "new day" or "same day" depending on what you're calling it. last night while the republican candidates were duking it out on the debate stage, far away, hillary clinton flexing her cch. on jimmy fallon. >> anyway, i was fantastic, you love me. i know you're about to do an interview with jimmy fallon, but he's a total lightweight. [ laughter ] so i'm going to do you a favor and interview you instead. >> that's great. you know how much i love being interviewed. as long as you don't start talking over me when i'm trying to make a point.

>> mr. trump insults and dismisses women, but tell me, what would you do to help women in this country? >> donald, i've spent my entire career fighting for women's rights. i'll push for equal pay in the workplace. for protecting women's health and reproductive rights. making quality affordable child care a reality for families. that's what i believe in. that's what i'm fighting for. you know, i'm really curious, donald, what is your stance on women's issues? >> look, i know a lot of women and they all have issues. [ laughter ] [ applause ] >> what i loved is that she's genuinely having a ball. did you see how much she enjoyed that appearance? >> yes. that last one, where she seemed to actually be laughing, right. >> if she can have a good time in an interview with donald trump, she should do more interviews and come on "same

day." >> fmaybe if you change the nam of the show to "same day" she'll come? what do you think? >> i think the parody of donald trump is just like it. >> it's too good. it's not a parody. it's mimicking. i can't tell the two apart and now i'm a little confused and embarrassed. >> well, i want to point out to you that hillary clinton is going to be here at cnn. we're guessing that it's going to be a slightly less irreverent interview with our wolf blitzer, you can tune into that at 5:00 p.m. eastern here on cnn. take it away, team. all right. we want to bring you the players from last night, new jersey governor chris christie, certainly one of them, played an unique role in last night's debate. he set his sights on democratic front-runner hillary clinton. he kept trying to turn the rest of the field back towards her. and towards the problems, instead of the infighting. and now, he joins us, chris christie, governor of new jersey, sleepless man. >> good morning, we all had no

sleep. >> how did you think it went last night? >> i was really happy with it. listen, you always want more time. i thought the moderators did a good job of trying to move it around to different folks in response to the dynamics on the stage. the most important thing is, i went on the campaign trail for the last months people are tired of hearing candidates talk about themselves. and they want to hear them talk about what their problems are. i heard carly talk about how much money she's made and lost. how much donald's made and lost. let's stick to they're both successful business people in their own right with their own successes and failures. that does nothing for the person sitting on the other end of the camera. >> you made that point quite vociferously in the debate. let's watch that moment. >> while i'm as entertained as anyone by this personal back and forth about the history of donald's and carly's career. 0 to the 55-year-old

construction worker who doesn't have a job who can't fund his child's education, i got to tell you the truth, they could care less about your careers. they care about theirs. you're both successful congratulations. you know who is not successful? the middle class that is getting plowed over by barack obama and hillary clinton. let's stop this childish back and forth between the two of you. >> you know, when i first heard you doing it, i loved when you did your interesting statement, you said turn the camera, in your initial statement, show them. that's who it's about. if i were a moderator of the debate, that's how exactly i'd be. you became a little moderator in that. there's a balance in that. really, you're supposed to be making the case as they are. how do you balance saying i don't like what's going on here. >> i need to be making the case the way i want to because i've heard from the voters. i've done more town hall meetings in new hampshire than

anybody. i've done 22 so far and counting. we'll be back next week. this is what i'm hearing from people on the ground in inew hampshire, in enough of donald's success and carly's success and jeb's family. i want to hear about my family. not so much a moderator, but reorient it to try to get the folks thinking about what they should be thinking about. when you walk in the oval office in january 2017, i want the american people confident that i've heard them and that my actions are what i've heard from them what i believe in my heart. >> did you hear somebody say something that you never heard them say before? or anything that you didn't expect them to say? anything jump out at you?

>> i starts speak and then carly tried to threaten me again. listen, he's got one place on the stage, not two or three. my view on her is be curtis. don't interrupt me. don't interrupt the other candidates. >> it's tough, though, to avoid the phenomenon that is trump. you've taken them on a little bit. you went on a morning show this morning that pretty much gives free reign on the air from big blocks of time. can awe void being part of that game? can you actually stay consistent in saying i'm not going to play this game? >> i think i can, chris, i think you saw me do it last night. there were a couple times, jake, god love him, was trying to get me into a fight with donald trump. i'm not going to do it. donald and i are friends. i think i'll be a much better president. i'm not going to get into the

back and forth like carly did. that gives donald, 16, 18 minutes because people want us to see us fight with him. my fight is with hillary clinton. that's where the real fight is, with what barack obama has done the last seven years, not with donald trump. it's with those folks. so i am going to stay focused on that. i can't guarantee every day i'm doing it because i'm human. >> the format last night was not necessarily to start a fight. but it was to engage. and it was to have a real debate. you would say something and then another candidate could challenge you. that was by design. it as states, there are a lot of people on that stage. >> do you think last night moved the needle in terms of some people might be getting out at some point soon? >> you would hope so. again, that's such a personal decision. but i wouldn't push anybody on that, they've got to make up their own mind. i like the format. in general, i like the format. i like the fact that we're

engaging and i thought jake did a nice job for the most part. i thought for the most part there was a candidate or two that decided they're going to run everybody over. >> moderator butts in. and now it's about the moderator. >> sure, it's a little trickier, it is. >> do you think you're in a better position after last night. >> yeah. a lot of smart politicians who know me well tell me this, the more people get to know me, i do better. the i went from six minutes to seven minutes last night. i'm making incremental progress. >> wait a minute, you only spoke for seven minutes? >> seven minutes. >> were you timing it? >> someone told me that. here's the thing, i've always been a guy about quality over quantity. always. so when i get my moments, i'm going to make them count and make people hear me. i've never been misunderstood in my political career.

>> what do you wish was asked that wasn't asked? do you think that somebody should have been pressed more? >> no, i think they should have done a pretty good job of pressing folks. i think as people get more and more of a spotlight, they're going to be pressed more. i'd like to hear more about carly's time at hewlett-packard. there was controversy about. and that will be an interesting thing for them to talk about but not ad nauseam during the debate in people's backgrounds and what they've done. people know generally what they're going to do. i think generally they've covered more than they covered before. >> fact-checkers were on you about when you were appointed u.s. attorney and named? >> i got the call from the white house september 10th 2001, from judge gonzales the president's

council saying, i have selected you. and then everything happened on september 11th. then my appointment was put off baugh every fbi in america was working in america as they should have been and not doing background checks on presidential appointees. but i was named september 10th, 2001. go back and check the newspaper. that's when the president named me. i didn't take office until january. >> jeb bush got big applause saying my mother kept us safe. did you think that was odd given the fact that he was president in 2011? >> no, i supported what he said because i worked for george w. bush. he and attorney ashcroft came to all of us in 2002, waiting for the next attack to happen and prosecuting the people who did it is no longer the way to do business. we have to stop them before they act. i feel very empowered as a u.s. attorney in our region of the world to intervene to do what we

needed to do. i thought just what the president did as well. i think what jeb did is right. a lot of people have forgotten about that, but in the more dangerous world, they're starting to remember. >> governor chris christie, we know it was a long night, thanks for being here. >> thank you. >> thank you for being here. >> thank you, and hillary should come, too. >> secretary clinton, these are good people. come talk to them, i always have fun here. >> thank you, that's a strong endorsement. carly fiorina talking tough at the republican debate last night. she turned the tables on donald trump. did any of her hits actually land and make impact? we talk about the highlights, the lowlights. we're live from the reagan library.

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this is about changing the system. >> rand paul shouldn't even be on the stage. >> there is a sophomore quality that is entertaining about mr. trump. >> i promise if i wanted i would have got interest. >> stop this childish back and fort. i want that on the record. >> you better will able to lead the country the first day. >> we don't want to hear about your careers.

>> this is about the character of our nation. >> i think she's got a beautiful face and i think she's a beautiful woman. good morning. welcome to this postdebate edition of new day or as allison is calling it same day because we've been up all night on this thursday september 17th. 8:00 in the east but here it is 5:00 a.m. in simi valley california. we're back after the republican debate and as promised it has changed the state of the election. donald trump is not the big name coming out of last night. the question for him is will he keep the size of his lead. not that he's going to drop from first but did the field shift last night it looks like yes are and for good and bad reason. candidates fired salvos of substance. the big name from last night, carly fiorina. >> jeb bush was also looking for

momentum after what some call a bounce back performance for him. who shined brightly? who fell flat? our debate coverage begins from last night. hi john. >> i was actually walking by the debate stage area and they are already breaking it down. like they are removing the evidence in a crash site. and that was what it was. like a multivehicle collision with all these forces going right after each other. there were some who landed their blows. others well take a look. from nearly the minute the debate started donald trump was the man in the middle. the middle of a pile on. >> his visceral response to attack people on their appearance, short, tall, fat, ugly. my goodness that happened in junior high. >> i never attacked him on his look and believe me there is plenty of subject matter right there. that i can tell you. >> there was trump v. paul,

trump v. fiorina about the rolling stone article where he talked about her face. >> i think the women around this country heard very clearly what mr. trump said. >> i think she's got a beautiful face and i think she's a beautiful woman. >> no she did not seem impressed. nor was jeb in trump v. bush. the subject, remarks trump made accusing bush on being soft on immigration because his wife was born in mexico. >> i hope you apologize for that. >> i hear phenomenal things. i hear your wife is a lovely woman -- >> she's fantastic. to the love of my life and she's right here. and why don't you apologize to her right now. >> i said nothing wrong but i do hear she's a lovely woman. >> -- >> all with a need to break through, carly fiorina, the newcomer to the main debate stage touched the crowd with a reference to sting videos

targeting planned parenthood. anyone who has watched this videotape, i dare. hillary clinton, barack obama to watch these tapes. watch a fully formed fetus on the table. its heartbeating, its legs kicking, while someone says we have to keep it alive to harvest its brain. m mar. >> the most important obligation the federal government has is to keep this nation safe. and today we are not doing that. we are eviscerating our military. and we have a president that is more respectful to the ayatollah in iran than he is to israel. >> and flashed business backgrounds. >> i led hewlett packard through the worst technology recession

in 25 years. >> you ran up a mountain of debt and you were forced to file bankruptcy. >> i made over ten billion dollars. >> the fact is we don't want to hear about your careers. you are both successful people. congratulations. >> the debate did have some lighter moments. or higher as the case may be. >> 40 years ago i smoked marijuana and i admit it. my mom's not happy they just said that. >> the big last came with bush and trump code names. >> ever ready. >> humble. >> and lindsey graham made waves in the first debate. >> i have a plan to destroy a radical islam.

because it has to be. >> he also came out for hard liquor. >> that is the first thing i'm going to do as president. we're going to drink more. >> game, set, match. >> who can argue with that logic. >> lindsey graham endorsed by jack daniels. >> stick with us. we want to bring in maeve reston and ron brownstein. >> to me what really jumped out above all was the divergence in the viewpoint on the core question the party faces, which is how do you get back to the white house after you have lost the popular vote in five of the last six elections.

we saw very different versions what it takes to do that. kasich and bush arguing we have to expand the coalition and other candidate, trump i think, cruz, jindal in the first debate arguing we have to mobilize the exist i existing. >> and -- not -- >> i mentioned donald trump in the divergence on where to go but yes, donald trump, when he was not insulting other candidates or questioning their qualifications he receded quite a bit in this debate. >> he says in first place but do you think donald trump may see his first vip slip at this debate. >> i think there are a lot of people out there who seized the opportunity to take aaway some of his voters. carly fiorina last night having a very strong performance. i do think we could see trump plateau here. at the same time we've all been saying things like that for a

while and we've been proven wrong. so it is very difficult to prick the dynamics in this race. to ron's point you did have republicans have a lot to see there last night and a lot to choose from. differing strategies for taking the white house back. also just a lot of tonal differences that were really interesting to watch in realtime. >> a lot of people were watching bush last night. to see if he would fight back? what his tone would be? and he did talk about his brother last night in a different way than we've heard before. >> your brother and his administration gave us barack obama because it was such a disaster those last three months that abraham lincoln couldn't have been elected. >> you know what? as it relates to my brother there is one thing i know for sure. he kept us safe. i don't know if you remember -- [ applause ] -- you remember the rubble?

you remember the firefighters with his arms around it? he sent a clear signal that the united states would be strong and fight islamic terrorism and he did keep us safe. >> do you feel safe right now? i don't feel so safe. >> was that an interesting situation given that his brother was president during 9/11? >> there are two reasons for the applause. number one, that audience in the room the 500 people were the establishment people still connected to the bushes right there. the second thing is george w. bush isn't at unpopular as he was inside the republican party. so particularly in the primary states you look at the numbers he's not the weight around the neck they thought. and i think the third thing is the well-crafted answer from jeb bush right interest. it wasn't exactly what trump was going. trump was calling w. a disaster on the economy and getting us into iraq and everything.

he wasn't saying anything about 9/11 but jeb turned it there. and. >> think about how much he struggled with that answer over the last couple of months. it was finalliliy like all righ jeb nailed it. with an issue he's had so much trouble talking about his family and figuring out what to say about iraq. that was one of his stronger moments. >> i don't think he wants to run as the brother of the george w. bush and if that is the strongest moment it is problematic. >> yeah. >> one of the things to keep in mind is enormous as this field is and i think most of the strategists in the campaign really believe they are running -- there are two different races occurring. two brackets being fought out. off kasich, chris christie. lindsey graham maybe from the first debate.

carly fiorina trying to establish the center right. more up scaly, focused primarily on new hampshire. and then the more conservative bracket where people like trump and cruz and huckabee and santorum. ben carson, who are looking to more popular voters. more evangelical. and they are aimed at iowa. so it is not all against all. i think most campaigns still think you are going to end one one finalist from each of the brackets and to a larger extent they are competing against each other. jeb bush's biggest problem today is not trump electorally. it is john kasich. >> the beating the heck out of him on one side. >> right. >> and let's look at the moment people were waiting for and this is a moment carly fiorina would respond to donald trump's unkind expressions about her face. here it is. >> you know it is interesting to

me. mr. trump said that he heard mr. bush very clearly and what mr. bush said. i think women all over this country heard very clearly what mr. trump said. >> i think she's got a beautiful face and i think she's a beautiful woman. >> i mean, that moment was just obviously the highlight of the debate for a lot of people. it showed you everything that makes carly fiorina just a really good candidate in one respect. incredibly disciplined. i mean the face control coming out of that. and then, you know, donald trump come back with almost doubling down on kind of a cringe ji moment for women. you know i think that the other interesting part of that is that we saw a bunch of the candidates start to go after her on her hp

record and that is going to be her biggest vulnerability going forward. once you are rising to the top you are going to get the target on your back. >> did you notice a little half smile on donald trump's face before he responded on that tape. almost like a professional acknowledgment like that was well done. >> he respects the fighting. >> apparently. >> and -- high five. awkward creepy old guy high five but a high five. >> thank you for that, coming up we will talk more about the debate. so many good guests to talk about. and also democrat bernie sanders is going to join us live later this hour. what did he think as he watched the television of what was going on last night? >> people don't have to think about

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we told you that the debate would change the race, and it did. the rivals squared off. trying to get your attention. and it seemed to work. donald trump was the focus, but probably deba didn't come away dominant. the name we're all hearing is carly fiorina. what does this mean? when the new numbers come out, donald trump maybe doesn't have the same lead. might see his first slip in the polls. he betrayed no lack after of confidence when he spoke to him right after he stepped off the debate stage.

>> what did your family say about how you were tonight. >> they were very proud and very happy and it was a beautiful time. i had an amazing time. three hours is probably a record-setting long debate. but i guess you are selling a lot of commercials doing that. they increased. it but they were professional the way they handled it. cnn did a very good job. >> we agree about that. seemed like it was well run. who do you think came out on top with the best ideas for the american people. >> i think everybody did well. nobody did poorly. and really everyone did very well. >> anybody more than anyone else. >> i think certain people did really well. i would never say that of course. >> carly fiorina is getting a lot of buzz. >> i think really everybody did very well. >> do you feel that you did something differently tonight than you did in the first debate? >> no i think probably the first debate went very well for me also. they are saying very nice

things. i just heard a couple of people come over and say wow that was great. so i think, you know, i'm very happy with both performances. >> there seemed to have been more discussion among the debates before and after here in this debate than the first one. >> well we're getting to know each other. even though it is quite tough and sometimes a little nasty we're getting to know each other. and you know you develop relationships. i have a lot of relationship for a lot of the people on the stage. >> what have you learned after tonight. >> i've learned that i have no trouble standing for three hours. you know, i mean literally it must be a record. i hope that the audience is okay. because i actually think it is a little bit too long. but i learned that we have a lot of talent in the republican party. and i think we're going to do very well come election day. >> when you look to the left and right tonight, did you still feel you stand above those who else want the job. >> i would never say that. i would never say that i do. i think aisle do a great job. i i aisle be the greatest jobs

producer there ever has been in this countrcountry. i was number one in terms of leadership and number one in terms of economy and jobs. and i don't mean by a little bit. you know the poll very well. by many times. and i think i would certainly do an unbelievable job putting the country back to work and i think people would be extremely broud of our country. >> did you hear anything tonight where you listened and thought i like that idea. >> i heard a lot of things. and we'll discuss it on your show at length. because i have a whole family now. >> what now? >> i'm getting on the plane and back to new york. then i'm going up to hb new hampshire tomorrow afternoon and all over the place. the polls have been amazing. just amazing. the reseptemberiviceptivity has incredible. in dallas we sold out the arena. in mobile, alabama.

31,000 people. the response has been incredible. they like it they agree. >> how does it feel to have your family. >> it's great. to have them and they seemed to be so recipientive today. i could see they were giving me the high five and high sign. >> ivanka must have liked it when you said you should be on the ten dollar bill. >> tomorrow. after the polls come out and they say trump was on top would you be surprised? >> no i wouldn't be. i think i did very well. >> kwhafs your impression when we first came off the stage? >> tired. i think tired because of the duration. it was a long night. and also because of the intensity. i think this was a different night for donald trump. everybody raised their game. it wasn't just about quick one-liners. carly fiorina was firing a bazooka with substance at him. she took him on what he said about her and much much more.

i don't think he was used to that. >> at the end he got his mojo back. where he said it was all terrific. i did very well. i'm hearing great things. even though that was mostly from miss family at that point. but he was back to vintage trump. >> the first time i've actually heard donald trump want to end the interview. he was ready to go. he was tired. >> i heard that. what did the democrats think last night? we'll talk to presidential candidate bernie sanders straight ahead when same day -- i mean new day continues. when you're not confident you have complete visibility into your business, it can quickly become the only thing you think about.

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we have heard a lot this morning from the people on the right. those who were in the debate last night, those who watched as the race changed. but what about the other side? are they shaking in their boots? are they satisfied with what they heard? do they feel better now? senator bernie sanders was live tweeting during the debate. >> a lot. >> senator debate, frsanders.

you are tweeting. you say you got bored. you fell asleep. what were your doing online last night, sir? >> it was really painful. i have to say of this to you. i couldn't go on the full three hours. i gave up after two and a half. look, their view -- it goes without saying that my views are different than theirs. but what was really remarkable is the degree to which they avoided the major issues facing the american people. and believe that every single problem facing humanity is all attributed to barack obama. he has caused all of the problems. we seem to have forgotten that when bush left office 800,000 people were losing their jobs every single month. the world's financial system was on the verge of collapse and the deficit was 1.4 trillion dollars, record breaking. >> senator, let me give people a taste of some of the twitter storm you are stirring up last night. here is one on immigration. you wrote anyone on stage maybe

just maybe think we might want to pass comprehensive immigration reform and a path towards citizenship? anyone? i'm sensing sarcasm, senator. >> yes it was sarcastic. but if you listen to the debate you would not know that most of the people in our country, not all but most of the people, in fact do believe that we need comprehensive immigration reform and a path towards citizenship. that is the majority opinion. and yet there was virtually no republican on that stage who agreed with that. i also found it remarkable that some of the really important issues facing our country. income and wealth inequality, not discussed a i all. the fact we have the highest rate of childhood poverty of any major country on earth not discussed at all. the fact that the scientific community is virtually unanimous in telling us climate change is real. it is a real threat to this planet. these guys had nothing to say on

that issue. >> here is the other side, senator. they were saying things, you just didn't like what they were saying. reverse order. climate change, they said yeah okay it is there but it is not for the federal government. let the states deal with it more. federal government doesn't van answer. in terms of poverty and income they blame you. saying you tax people into a position they are in and locked up business. and notably on immigration they say that is on you too. your party president, caucusing with the democrats they say brak bomb promised and he didn't get it done and these are all your problems. >> let's deal with that. first of all they do not believe in comprehensive immigration reform and that's why the house of representatives have not taken up the comprehensive immigration reform pass by the democrats with -- in a bipartisan way i should say -- in the senate. we did it. in terms of climate change, no,

chris, i did not hear anybody say, oh, this is a planetary crisis. we have got to do something. really? the federal government should not do something? no scientist i know believes that. what they think is if we don't act now the situation will become much worse in late years. in terms of childhood poverty i didn't hear a word about the need to address the fact that 40% of african american kids in this country are living in poverty. nor did i hear a word by the way about racial justice in this country. >> the candidates as you know, senator, went after each other somewhat last night. and they also went after hillary clinton and they took sort of a sideswipe at you in the process. let me play for you what bobby jindal said. >> hillary clinton is gift wrapping this election to us. they are running their weakest candidate. they have a socialist who is

gaining on the hillary clinton. folks you can't make that up. a socialist is doing well in the democratic primary. >> he says you can't make it up. it is stranger than fiction basically. your response? >> my thought is that the more the american people understand the kind of programs that exist in democratic socialist countries like den mark, sweden, norway, finland and other countries around the world where healthcare is a right of people. and public colleges and universities are tuition free. where the rate of childhood poverty is much much lower than it is in the united states of america. where you have much more income and wealth equality and don't haveities that we have in this country. where in many cases for those countries the standard of living there is a lot higher. and i know for a governor jindal it is easy to try to frighten people. throw out a word, socialist, oh

my goodness we're all supposed to be shaking in our boots. but i think if we look at the success stories in these coun y countries there is a lot we can learn. >> when you say socialist it doesn't ring the right bell. the countries you are talk about the criticism is well it doesn't scale up. they are smaller populations. they can handle the tax burden differently and. what they are afraid of with sanders is that you are going to tax us to death in order to give to the people who need but you will be taking from everybody else too much. >> no i will not be. and chris, of course you're right in saying that country likes finland and denmark and sweden are much machine homogenous than we are. they are smaller but there are lessons that we can learn. why are we the only major nation on earth that doesn't garrett healthcare -- guarantee healthcare to all people. why are we the only major

country on earth that doesn't guarantee paid family and medical leave so when a working class woman has a baby she's not forced to be separated from her baby and go back to work a week or two weeks later? why do we have the highest rate of childhood poverty of any major country on earth? why is it hundreds of thousands of bright young kids today cannot afford to go college? i think yes, the united states is a much larger economy, much more complicated, much more diverse society but there are things we can learn from governments which have programs that represent working people. and by the way another issue that did not come up last night in the debate is this disastrous citizen's united supreme court decision which allows billionaires to buy elections and maybe that has something to do with the fact that most of the people up there on the platform are super pacs which are funded by the wealthiest in the country. which forces them despite jeb bush's suggestion that he's not going to protect the interest of

the people who fund him. well maybe he will and maybe most of them will end up doing that that. >> how do get money out of politics. how to help people make more money without having the tax burden go crazy. these are things to be discussed. as always we invite you to discuss it going forward and thank you for making your case today, sir. >> thank you very much. >> hillary clinton is also going to be on cnn. she'll give her first reaction to last night's debate in an exclusive interview with wolf blitzer at 5:00 eastern on the situation room. you don't want to miss that. >> see the look on her face, that is when wolf says a question she's like wow i can't believe how awesome that question is. there will be a lot of that. look forward to it. >> now the presidential candidate. they were trying to impress you that they have substance, not just one-liners. how about foreign policy? healthcare? the issues that matter you just heard sanders saying he didn't hear enough. who delivered the goods?

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could be the subject of a commercial. that issue, even though she has a good solid answer from her perspective would not go away. >> big issue, fiorina scored well on. what do we do on the war on terror? marco rubio wants to own this space. he said something i want your take on. let's listen. >> let's remember what the president said. he said the attack that he was going to conduct was going to be a pinprick. well the united states military was not built to conduct pinprick attacks. if the united states military is going to be engaged by a commander in chief it should only be engaged in an endeavor to win. and we are not going to thoroughbre authorize use of force if you are not putting the military in a position they can win. >> and they certainly do pinprick because we're using special ops and they are the

best in the world and discreet mismissions. i. >> think he showed himself very strong on national security. and i think he did himself some good last night in the debate. he makes a very important point. three and a half years ago, there was lots of consensus that if you do not do something with isis, bringing your arab league partners in, being aggressive -- i think we've had those conversations -- you are going to have a big problem. the president didn't want to deal with it. i this i his point was if we had dealt with it then in a more significant way we wouldn't have the problem we have now which is the most significant displacement since world war ii. >> we don't know who released the gas on these people and then a few days later we done a interview a few days later. he says i'm bombing iran. i'm bombing syria. i'm going in there and doing it. rubio and others were very slow.

they backed the president off. so pushback saying now you want to go big and bold and we said we were going to bomb syria early on. you were against it us. >> >> i thought rubio did well and i thought he did himself some good last might. they needed to engage in helping the president get that use of authorization in syria. i still think they need to do that. however the president has never worked it. never pushed on it. and he engaged in those bombing runs already. and he engaged in the plans we wanted and alls we've done in syria is nibble around the edges. that is the heart and soul of isis? we have 56 fbi field offices. we have 56 investigations at least, one investigation per field office on isis in the united states. this is a big and growing problem. you are going to have to do something about it. and i think what rubio's point was, listen, we're issuing press releases. you are dropping a few bombs.

it clearly isn't working. >> quickly, what was the moment that most struck you last night? >> i think that chris christie has one of the best moments in reminding people that it is about real people. when donald trump and carly fiorina were going back and forth. what strikes me though is that middle class, the words middle class were only used three times in that three hour debate. and yet defund and planned parenthood were used 28 times. that is where the emphasis was. and because of that i would say the person who was not on the stage who won was hillary clinton. >> although her biggest critic has been carly fiorina and she was strong last night. >> she was strong. >> great to see you guys. thanks so much for coming in. back to michaela in new york for a look at other stories. >> not just any stories, the five things you need to know. at number one, republicans are going after donald trump in

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holding back and letting others take the stage and get things out. >> let's take a moment. everyone was watching what would happen when fiorina and trump encountered each other. they had many exchanges. they thought it was just going to be about her face. it was about so much more. including she went after him for his business management. and what she said were bankruptcies. watch this. >> you know there are a lot of us americans who believe that we are going to have trouble someday paying back the interest on our debt because politicians have run up mountains of debt using other people's money. that is in fact precisely the way you ran your casinos. you ran up mountains of debt as well as losses using other people's money. and you were forced to file for bankruptcy not once, not twice, four times. a record four times. why should we trust you to manage the finances of this nation any differently than you managed the finances of your casinos. >> what did you think about fiorina and trump's exchanges?

>> i think carly took him down every time. there is no way trump is going to "trump" carly. i honestly believe that carly fights with the facts. carly fights with her opinions. and i think that mr. trump is very good at fighting with bully tactics. >> does she have high ground on business when hp, by many people's accounts road down the hill of success during her tenure? >> i think she does. and i think the reason that she does is that she had to make some tough choices. and when you are in a leadership position you have to make tough choices. and i honestly believe that carly is capable of doing that. she proved it with hp. she had to make choices that were difficult for the people who worked for her. but even members of the board of directors of hp have come out now and shown total support for carly. so definitely i think that she does hold the higher ground. >> i think it is night and day. i think when you look at trump

you see a crony capitalist. he's used eminent domain to take land from people who needed it. t i think there are a ton of business examples and carly created jobs and safd a company. i think that is night and day. carly is an example of what we need. we need innovators and leaders. we don't need people like donald trump who are trying to sell political snake oil. >> when you went in you were preferring marco rubio. have you changed? >> i've been talking a lot to gail. i haven't changed yet. but i think if carly or marco were able to get the nomination i would be fully in support of either would have been nose. >> political snake oil. that is what they are calling your man trump a salesman of. do you buy it? >> i do not buy it. i think the numbers speak. and the american people, the average american citizen want someone who is right out there with their opinions.

and like it or not. he may have an odd way of presenting himself and a little bit brash. but he's speaking to the american people. >> what about all the times that carly went after him? who do you think won is this. >> i think carly held her own last night. she's an amazing woman. and i think he conceded. and i could tell on his face that he deferred when he said you're gorgeous or whatever his response to that was. >> she said the women across the country heard what he said about her face and then he said i think you're a beautiful woman. is that a little too late is this. >> oh yes. but what else could he do. >> did you believe it by the way. >> that he felt that way? >> i don't think he was even trying to attack her persona. i think that is just his strategy and what he does in business and he likes to knock people down. and if he knocks them down he wins. i don't think it is about her. he just picks something and goes for it. >> thanks for waking up early with us and giving us all your

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today's good stuff comes from alabama. rachel brimly was taking care of house work with her 4 month old strapped to her chest. an officer approached her home and she thought she was in trouble. apparently the officer spotted someone who needed a hand and did something. he mowed the lawn. her entire lawn. rachel posted this picture on facebook. her husband who apparently works away and long hours was really grateful. >> you kind of get the "we're afraid to talk to cops mentality" or fearful of them and it is good to just see them

being human, you know. >> and cutting the lawn. >> how about that. great stuff. complements of alabama. >> that's great michaela. thanks so much for that and we'll look forward to seeing you back in new york tomorrow morning. it's been a very interesting 24 hours out here in the sim valley in the reagan library. >> right back to the newsroom with miss carol costello. >> newsroom starts now. >> this is about the character of our nation. >> you have to speak english. >> one thing i know for sure, he kept us safe. >> short, tall, fat, ugly. my goodness, that happened in junior high. >> they could care less about your careers. >> more energy tonight, i like that. good morning. doank you for joining me.