tests get harder for candidates. i think donald trump failed the test at end of the week when confronted with that questioner about the president's -- who accused the president again of being a closet muslim. i don't think being a muslim should be a slaner in any case. unlike john mccain in 2008 didn't stand up to it, didn't correct. i think that combine with his inability to answer in specific ways more detailed policy questions in the debate, i think, yes, are the beginning the end. i think his support is capped. and i think some of it is going to move away from him. >> if 54% of those supportive of trump also believe erroneously that the president is a muslim, he's not going to lose their support. but i guess you're saying that there's just no growth potential? >> yeah. and there's also 46% who don't believe that.

look, i think a lot of people supporting donald trump are the same people who showed up at the sarah palin rallies at the end of the 2008 campaign. we know that there this cohort out there who believe that, you know, we are being encroached on by aliens. illegal aliens, muslims, china. and trump has tapped into that -- into that constituency. it's no accident that sarah palin was one of the first people to stand up and defend him after he attacked senator mccain for his war record. and rush limbaugh came to his against. that's his constituency. it's not the majority of the republican party. it's certainly not the majority of the country. but it is an activist group and some of them may stick with him. >> can money solve his problems? he told patrick healy at the "the new york times" that he's ready to spend $100 million. >> i don't thing that money can

solve his problems because he's getting such intensive media coverage that it's his own performance that's at question here. $100 million does not solve the problem of being unwilling to stand up to someone who makes outrageous comments at one of your rallies. that's on you. and you know, you can't buy the courage to answer or the common sense to answer. but these are the tests that presidential candidates face. and it's not about how big your bank account is. it's about how stout your character is. >> as you referenced, you wrote for cnn.com about his debate performance. here's part of what you said. he turned in a now familiar performance short on specifics, long on burlesque, and laced with incendiary dog whistle appeals to his nate innist flock. yet the bombastic billionaire seemed to wilt in the latter stages of the debate as the temperature of n. a steamy

reagan library plane hangar rose. >> is this what happens when you're forced to stand in an extended time period? >> i think that is. and i think it's going to get more difficult, as i said, as the races go on, the bar gets lifted, people expect more of you. you're not going to get away with my policy for russia is i'm going to get along with putin. that's just not a compelling answer to that question. i think donald trump is an incredibly talented entertainer, as he calls himself. he's been masterful at dominating the media during the summer months. but the tests are getting harder now. and he's coming up wanton. >> in the aftermath of this gaffe, maybe coincidence, maybe not, he cancelled a south carolina appearance. the optics of that not good for a campaign. of what significance is that cancellation? >> i think it is significant. i think, first of all, that was a big deal down in south carolina. thousands and thousands of people, as you know, conservative movement down there is very strong.

and to stiff the group was not good. but the other thing is if you're whole schtick is i'm the biggest, toughest dude around, and you run into a little trouble and you go into hiding, that's not very good for your message. >> david axelrod, thank you so much. >> good to be with you. is the summer romance with donald trump over? here are two pros, bob beckel is a democratic strategist and contributing columnist for ""usa toda today"" and kathleen parker for ""the washington post" who writes on politics and culture. great to have you. glad you got the purple memo. ax didn't get it. and now the donald is responding, bob, he's saying do i have to come to the fence of the president when a situation like that occurs? should he have confronted that guy? >> no, we talk about mccain that was a general election. donald trump's people who vote for him believe that. now, is he going to stand there

and tell his base you don't understand what you're talking about, is he really a muslim? he got away with it once again saying, and going into look into these things investigate all of these camps and things. but the fact is, when people say trump should have done that, should he have done it, was it the right thing to do? of course. was it the politically expedient thing do? i don't think so. >> do you agree with that? >> not really. let's be clear. we have to take the president at his word, he's not a muslim but be clear, you no, muslim is not a bad word. lots of good people are muslims and they're american, too. but we're certainly sensitive to the fact that people are concerned. >> by the way, the tweet, this is the first time in my life that i have caused controversy by not saying something. kathleen. >> that's a very good point. he's such a blabber mouth. he's unfiltered most of the time and will say whatever, shoot from the hip. this time he was careful in parsing his word saying we will be looking into these things.

some people say -- he was almost delicate with it. i thought who are you trying not to offend here. who are you trying not to alienate. and that's not best sliver of our population. >> bob, look at second part of this. am i morally obligated to defend the president every time somebody says something bad or controversial about him? i don't think so. how is that growth strategy to not rein the guy? >> michael, it's not about growth here. let's understand this from pure politics. it's upsetting here with pure politics. but i've been in iowa six different times. there's a sliver of iowa that believes this, and you're never going to convince him that he's a muslim. they believe in the birther stuff. those are people that are going to go to caucuses and vote for donald trump. i think what trump is saying, it may be in the longer scheme to broaden his base. i don't think he can broaden his base much. i think he's got only 30% of republicans. that's about all he's going to get. >> kathleen, my point is 32% or thereabouts of the gop, and if

the gop is 21% of the populous, and i've never good at math, it >> it's hard for saturday morning. >> it tells me that one-third of republicans translates to 7% to 9% of americans. that's it. maybe it's enough to do well in a primary process or a caucus process, but you're not getting elected president with this sort of thing. >> of course not. he's so bad for the republican party. you have to be -- in order to be elected, present yourself as a leader, you have to say unpopular things even if it does cause some members of your base, again, we are talking about the sliver or slice of a little tiny piece, you have to be able to say, look, we're not going to play into this because we're better than that. let's raise the level of the conversation. let's acknowledge that we're concerned about immigration. we're concerned about, you know, certain people who are not interested in assimilating. but we're not going to demonize any one group of americans.

i think people would be able to handle that, even -- >> i don't think he lose his base. >> i don't either. >> listen, you got to remember for iowa, everybody keeps dismissing huckabee and santorum, let's remember they beau won that state. they've got people out there that are going to vote them. >> right. but neither of them captured the nomination. >> it's not about nomination plibs right politics right now. it's getting to next week. the idea are there are four coming out of new hampshire. i've got an idea. but it's got to be attrition. you've got people that have got to drop out. meantime look at next week -- the next contest and the big one is iowa. and trump has a base and he doesn't want to upset that. >> let me show you something -- >> well. >> do you want to respond? >> no, no. >> i want to show you something that "the new york times" editorialized about the gop debate. peel back the boasting and insults, the lies and exaggerations common to any presidential campaign. what remain says collection of assertions so untrue, so bizarre, that they form a vision as surreal as the ronald reagan

jet looming behind the candidates' lecterns. i'm sure the republicans will dismiss this as the liberal editorial of the times. isn't it when all the talk is about shutting down planned parenthood. and when the talk is about how w. kept us safe, aren't they losing the battle in the rest of the country, meaning outside the reagan hall? >> yes, of course. you do have to win the general election at some point. so you don't want to get locked into these conversations that are so -- that pertain to just a small portion of the population. the group that wants to talk about vaccinations or autism. or the other conversation they have. as far as -- i don't blame jeb bush for wanting to say something positive about his brother, but he doesn't have to volunteer. that was an unforced error on his part, i think. >> let me say this about the republican party right now. 4 has moved farther right in a shorter period of time bufz all of this coverage.

whoever emerges has a lot of work to do to get back to the senate. >> that's my point. >> remember, there's so many of these people, you want to get there to be able to have that problem. right now, they want to get through iowa and new hampshire alive. and there's not going to be -- that stage is going to be empty after eye and new hampshire. >> here's "the wall street journal," gang. it says it's more likely than not that biden is getting in. you're the democratic strategist, is that going to happen? >> i'm not buying into it yet. i tell you this, this is the classic -- the people around biden, they're very good at dropping these things to keep joe stimulated, right? joe's going to find when he gets to the black caucus event in washington the wind is going to come out of the sails because hillary clinton is locked solid in that group. i don't think joe, in the end, final analysis, he's lost twice, does he want to go out, after being vice president, get 3% of the vote? i don't think so. >> you think he gets?

>> that is very convincing. i'm saying yes. i'm leaning more towards he will, than he won't, the reason is, what else is he going to do? i think joe biden wants to be president. i think he thinks he'll be a good president. he's going to be a formidable candidate in the sense no one's going to want to attack him. they're just going to want to treat him somewhat gently. he's so likeable. if we elect somebody on that basis alone, he's -- >> that's for sure. >> the next debate, cnn debate, october 13, if you where whispering in his ear and if he were going to get in, would you tell him to get in before or after that debate? >> certainly, debate. he's got a long way to go. to get ready to be in iowa, you know, with 7,000 precincts, i think he should get in for. look, he's vice president of the united states, whats his excuse? he can handle all of the issues. >> right, he's fluent. >> it's a cycle unlike any we've seen. we've all been seeing this for a while. you could script this kind of thing, right? >> crazy. >> there will be populists in the past and in the future. they stir things up. >> and they always lose.

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is pope francis the reformer that liberals want him to be and conservatives fear? the catholic leader arrives on our shores next week and is speaking to congress but there's already been pushback on who gets to greet him. "the wall street journal" reports that the vatican has, quote, taken offense at the obama administration's decision to invite to the pope's welcome ceremony transgender activists, the first openly gay episcopal bishop and an activist nun who leads the group. who better to talk about this than the head of the catholic league. bill donoghue joins me from garden city. bill, what do you make of that flap that who should be in that 15,000 group to greet the pontiff?

>> well, i found it astounding that the president of the united states would actually show his contempt for catholics by bringing in people like dignity. dignity brought in dan savage, the most foulmouthed obscene anti-catholic bigot at the convention to speak in july. they bring in the sister who has been told to discontinue her ministry. she's been told by cardinal wuerl not to represent herself as a catholic voice. every time a jewish or muslim leader is invited to the white house, properly, they have jews and muslims and others respectful of the leader. only catholics are exploited this way by this president. >> do you think that the pontiff himself will be offended? you refer to this as contempt for catholics. i keep thinking of pope francis as the guy saying who am i to judge. ite get the impression he'd want

everybody there, all walks of life and all perspectives. >> why aren't the sisters of life there? why aren't the sisters of mary the eucharist there? the loyal nuns are not there. they're bringing in groups which are against mother teresa. they were against the lighting of the empire state building on her sentence -- centeniary. it's one thing to be welcoming and to be inclusive, it's quite another to bring in people opposes publicly to the teachings of the catholic church. >> bill, there's a schism, apparently, within the church of those who perceive this pope to be quite liberal as compared to previous popes. it occurs to me he's going to be hosted by forces like cardinal dolan, archbishop chipault. do you think we'll see any evidence of a divide within the church along ideological grounds while he's here?

>> i think he probably will. depends on what the pope talks been look, to put it in terms, at the risk of oversimplification, what the pope hopes to be mike huckabee on morale culture issues and bernie sanders on social economic issues, all right. he really is. that's what he is. if he's before the u.n. and talking about climate control, he's going to stay on the left. if he's talking about income inequality and he's talking about other matters and climate control, then he's going to sound like he's a leftist. but when it comes to marriage, the family, things of that nature, he's going to sound much more conservative. it depends on, you know, which -- look, the church has always been on the left on social economic issues and on the right on moral cultural issues. the difference with this pope, he brings them into sharp belief and depend on what issue, if he's talking about immigration, the conservatives will get anxious.

but you know what? i think all of these people ought to pipe down. maybe they should study the teachings in the catholic church because the catholic church has been a strange political mixture all along. >> there's a lengthy piece in the "times" that talks about the pontiff in anticipation of his arrival and it makes the point that nothing has changed with regard to church doctrine, that there's a more welcoming face now on the catholic church than perhaps previously. but the rules are the rules. my words, not the "time's" words. respond to that notion. >> i would agree 100%. in terms of process, he's widely different. in terms of style, very, very different. when it comes down to the substantive and doctrinal teachings, understand people don't understand it. there are certain things you can't change. for example, it's not well reported but is this what the pope said about women priests. he said, no, the answer is, the door is closed. he cited john paul ii. this is not bill donahue speaking, this is what the pope

said. certain things you can't change. can you have married priests? end celibacy? absolutely, you can do that. can you make changes on other issues? very much so. and he certainly has. he's made the process of for giveness for abortion more widely accommodating. and i think he's going to make -- listen, he's shaking things up to a lot of people who live in a comfort zone of certainty. but i like him. >> i appreciate your comment of him being a hybrid between governor huckabee and senator sanders. do you expect that he's going to reset the presidential race that is now playing itself out against the backdrop of this visit? something he'll say maybe on climate change, maybe on immigration, maybe on a social issue? >> oh, i have no question there will be people who will seize on every word and say, see that, you guys better get in line, it's already started. it depends on -- it is likely that immigration, income

inequality and climate control are going to be central points, that would favor the democrats, no question about it. but when he's in philly talking about the family, he's not going to be disrespectful of gays but he said in buenos aires that same-sex marriage is the work of the devil. he's not going to change that. that's him. >> i have 30 seconds left with bill donohoe. of many events about to play out, which one have you circled on your calendar you that think is going to sum up the visit? is it the final mass in philly, madison square garden, what exactly -- the speech to congress, what do you have circled? >> it won't be philly or madison square garden. madison square garden is a mass and philly is mostly ceremonial. there will be two events. the congress on thursday. and the u.n. on friday. that's where you'll hear his more political type speech. but don't forget, what's most exciting and driving a lot of people crazy is what he says off the cuff. actually the most controversial

remarks will probably be made on his way leaving philadelphia to go to rome. >> bill, have a great week. i know it's a huge week for you. i wish you all good things. >> thank you so much, mike. >> bill donahoe, thank you for being here in my hometown of philadelphia. the head line on the enquirer tells a different story, the courts have been battling sex abuse lawsuits in the courts. will this pope change any of that? joining me now is a lawyer who has represented several victims of priest abuse. marcy hamilton is a law professor, she clerked one for stream justice sandra day o'connor and author of "god versus the gavel, perils of extreme religious liberty." marcy, has the pope put his house in order on this issue? >> michael, fortunately, he's had a lot of nice words but he's not done much in the united states as at all. >> what should he do?

>> what he should be doing is telling his bishops to treat the victims with love and with caring, and not engaging in these hardball tactics which is what he's doing across the country through his bishops. >> hardball tactics such as what? such as resisting an effort to say expand the statute of limitations? >> well, the lobbying is intense in several states, new york, pennsylvania, new jersey where the catholic bishops have lobbied intensely and spent millions on trying to make sure that they don't get justice. the other part is when there are cases that actually make it under the statute of limitations, he's actually permitting his bishops to engage in really ugly hardball tactics, invoking every religious theory that was ever concocted to avoid having to participate in a lawsuit. >> do you think that comes from the vatican? >> i'm not sure that the vatican is fully aware of it. i think probably came from pope benedict.

but pope francis has not changed at all wait in which these bishops operate. i haven't seen an iota of change in the united states. >> are there any plans, as far as you know now for pope francis to sit down with victims of abuse while in the united states this coming week? >> not a peep. no one has heard anything. he is meeting with the family of a fallen police officer which is a wonderful thing for them but for the victims, so far, they feel as though they're being completely ignored. >> marcy, you know it's anticipated that he'll say things about immigration, perhaps deliver a major address in philadelphia using abraham lincoln's lectern. he'll also address climate change, so we've been led to believe. do you think he'll address the history of abuse? will he touch this issue in the states and if so, what do you want him to say? >> i don't know if he can avoid it. but what he needs to say is that

the church is a church of mercy. that they are deeply sorry for what has happened to these victims. and when they have legitimate legal claims, the church will treat them like they're legitimate. instead of being so interested in avoiding every single claim and dragging victims who really don't need it through the courts. >> those hardball tactics, though, protect the resources of the church, you're arguing for pope francis to do something against the financial interests of the flock that he's there to protect? >> well the truth of it is, most of these lawsuits are settled through a large extent through insurance. the diocese that had insurance to cover clergy sex abuse for decades. so, it's really not about the money. it's about the secrets. they want secrecy to continue. and that's what the victims are fighting for. they're trying to get some kind of sunshine. >> do you think that this visit is going to recast the political landscape with things that pope francis will say or do against the backdrop of the 2016 presidential race playing itself out? >> well the biggest political change among religious lobbyists

in the united states in recent history is with the joining of power of evangelical christians and the catholic bishops. it's brought them together in a way and it's changed the message, particularly for the bishops. i'm wondering if these positions that the catholic church is taking is going to start creating a difference between those two lobbying blocs, and if so, that will radically change the election. >> because the catholics, at the direction of pope francis, are taking a more liberal posture? or at least liberal for catholics? >> almost -- it's almost crazy liberal from the perspective of so many of the right wing christians. that it's going to be hard to be in the same room. they're going to continue to agree on abortion. but what about all of those other issues on which pope francis is now walking away from the far right? >> marcy hamilton, thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> keep your tweets coming.

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i thought she won. carly fiorina gave what many found to be a star-making performance on wednesday's republican debate right here on cnn. how much of of that was just that, a performance, compared to her actual track record as ceo? donald trump made this accusation -- >> head of the yale business school jeffrey sonnenfeld wrote a paper recently one of the worst tenures for ceo that he has ever seen. ranked one of the top 20 in the history of business. the company is a disaster and continues to be a disaster. they still haven't recovered. in fact, today on the front page of the "wall street journal" they fired another 20,000 or 35,000 people saying we still haven't recovered from the catastrophe.

>> i want to give you a chance to respond. >> jeffrey sonnenfeld is a well-known clintonite and honestly had it out for me from the moment i arrived at hewlett-packard. >> small fact check. before i welcome that well-known clintonite. jeffrey sonnenfeld is not the head of yale business school. at least not yet. he's senior dean at the school of management. he did write the article calling carly fiorina as a boss the disappointing truth. joining me from connecticut. professor sonnenfeld, let's deal with the issue of bias, are you a clintonite? >> no, i'm not. i've never taken kryptonite, i don't know superman. i met the clintons. i know the bushes. i have never been in any way on these peep's payrolls. i met with personally recently four republican candidates for private discussions, not for compensation. i often take a position, michael, like you, i want each candidate to try to help formulate their own positions in the best way they can to avoid

the personal invective in the some of the kind of anti-social behavior we sometimes see in this silly season. but no, i don't work for them. >> let me show what you carly fiorina wrote for cnn.com. just last month, august 13th. she said hewlett-packard not only survived the dot-com bust, we also became the leader in every market segment and product category in which we competed. we doubled revenue to over $80 billion. we quadrupled the growth rate to 6.5%. we triple innovation to produce an average of 15 patents a day. that sure does sound impressive. >> michael i feel like the proverbial mosquito in the nudist colony, i hardly know where to strike first. everything in that statement, that short passage, is exactly why she shouldn't be president of the united states. and why she was a disaster as the ceo of hewlett-packard. >> she doubled the revenues by $80 billion. >> she doubled revenues, that's not what business is about. you're trying to increase

profits. the proof is in the history. 6 everybody she's ha bought has been shuttered or else divested. >> what happened to profits? >> nothing. that's what you care about is profits. >> what happened? >> another joke in finances making up volume. it went nowhere. it went nowhere in profits. she said, well, we're in tough time. the standard & poor's 500, the yardstick for profits, in those five years for other companies was up 75%. also, even more importantly, she sliced shareholder wealth in half. this company was worth $1 when she got in the door. by the time she was fired it was worth 50 cents. what that means, $60 billion she erased from you and my pockets as owners of the company and she gets $100 million for doing that. they paid her $100 million. >> there was a full-page ad, i saved because i knew this day would come, it was run by a gentleman then on the board at hp, and participated presumably in her firing. let me show you a paragraph of what tom perkins said.

critics questioned the move but history proves carly was right. post merger, hp became the biggest computer company in the world. it positioned hp to compete in integrated systems and allowed us to compete in sectors of the company, printers. and he concludes by saying, i can attest to her intellect, her talent, i'm proud to support carly fiorina for president of the united states." this guy participated in her firing, was on the board, and he says you're wrong. >> this is one board member who never minded speaking to the press about confidential board then and recently. what he said in the comper story why carly fiorina was fired 2005 written by the dean of financial reporting carol loomis at the time, he was open about what a colossal affair she was in style and substance. if he did, why hasn't he hired her in the last ten years? why hasn't anybody hired her in the last ten years? if she is -- >> has she held any ceo position

since hp? >> she's not only never held it, she's never been offered. >> when her tenure at hp was raised as an issue in the 2010 senate campaign against barbara boxer, this commercial was aired, and it significantly changed the direction of the race. the race has been neck and neck until this hit the airwaves. roll it. >> ceo of hp carly fiorina laid off 30,000 workers. >> when you're talking about massive layoffs, which we did, perhaps the work needs to be done somewhere else. >> fiorina shipped jobs to china. she tripled her salary, she bought a million dollar yacht and five corporate jets. >> i'm proud of what i did at hp. >> carly fiorina outsourcing jobs, out for herself. >> i'm barbara boxer, i approve this message. >> in the california race were these issues raised by the media or only barbara boxer running against her?

>> the media got on to it late in the campaign, thanks to barbara boxer and her team raising them. but to tell you the truth, among intimate friends here, that ad was too tepid. it was too light. it was too mild. there's so much more that could have been brought across in that campaign. many things are documented. she would hire platoons that would question her and challenging her own board members. it's a leadership style much more akin to russia and china than public office here but also her own strategic flip-flops are so confusing. before she went after compact computer she announced was the opposite strategy what she wanted. meg whitman who was a fantastic ceo of hp. had to sell off the final vestiges of that in the final weeks. >> yeah, but meg whitman just laid off 30,000 people. by that standard, you could be making the same comments about meg whitman. >> these aren't people that meg whitman hired and fired. this is the legacy of carly fiorina. this was compact stuff they

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we'll call you when things are just as wonderful... [phone ringing] but a little less crazy. we're doing everything we can to give you the best experience possible. because we should fit into your life. not the other way around. donald trump should have toured the reagan library before he debated at the simi valley venue, because he could have found hidden in the vault what i did, a piece of advice from the gipper that might have saved trump's campaign. see, within the reagan library there's a permanent exhibit showcasing index cards on which the great communicator hand wrote his famous one-liners for use in after dinner and campaign speeches. according to the library display, reagan began making such notations in 1950s and for 40 years, it was his practice to keep them in a makeshift photo album.

the 3 x 5 cards holding his favorite one-liners were wrapped in a rubber band and kept in his brief case. the note cards were almost lost to history. they were discovered during the reagan centennial, the 100 anniversary of his birth. touring the reagan library last week on the eve of the presidential debate, i spied a night card in reagan's hand with a line that trump would have benefited from reading. it said this, never start an argument with a woman when she's tired, or when she's rested. trump violated that sage advice when, in the presence of a "rolling stone" reporter, he spotted carly fiorina and blurted out, look at that face, would anyone vote for that? can you imagine that face being our next president? after all of the attacks on immigrants and so many others in that moment he started an argue nan finally turned the tide against him. and when given the opportunity to respond to trump's offensive statement, carly fiorina took

the high road. >> you know, it's interesting to me. mr. trump said that he heard mr. bush very clearly in what mr. bush said. i think women all over this country heard very clearly what mr. trump said. >> arguably, trump's critique of fiorina's appearance elevated her profile, which contributed to the number of questions that came her way. you could say that trump ensured she received more than her fair share of face time. and trump's comments about fiorina are just the type of behavior that caused reagan's eldest son michael to tell me here recently that he believes trump is the least regionesque of the lot. >> ronald reagan didn't attack the people around him. he didn't demean the people around him. you know, he brought everybody together at the end. if republicans don't bring everybody together at the end of the day, we do not win elections. we're the smallest bus in the building. we don't have the ability to

throw people off the bus and demean them. we have to figure a way to put people on that bus and move it forward to washington, d.c. and i don't think that donald trump is the guy who in fact fills the bus with those people that he has demeaned as he goes in fact through the system. >> you know, many expected trump to go after ben carson in the debate, but the donald played nice with the doctor. perhaps carson should also take a tour of the reagan library and pay attention to another note card that i saw in ronald reagan's handwriting. it said this "beware of those who fall at your feet, they may be reaching for the corner of the rug." your tweets coming in all hour. the best and worst are next.

this is cnn breaking news. >> breaking news here on cnn. i'm poppy harlow. ahead of 7:00 eastern here and we are waiting for remarks from republican presidential front-runner donald trump. awaiting for him to speak in des moines, iowa. looking at live pictures. there he is set to speak eight faith and freedom coalition following a speech that just ended by rick santorum. trump's first he did not correct a supporter who called president obama a muslim and quote not an american. let's listen in to donald trump as he shakes the hand of the leader there of the faith and freedom coalition.

and as donald trump takes the podium. >> i brought my bible. see? i'm better than you thought. you see? and actually this was given to me by my mother. and i was just noticing yesterday and she wrote such a beautiful enscription mary mccloud from scotland. very religious, actually. it was something i thought i would bring along today. because this is a group that fully understands bibles and respects everything that it says. i also brought my confirmation picture because nobody can believe it. nobody believes this. what went wrong? ? what went wrong? well, i had quite a couple of days if you noticed. a town hall with 3,000 people at least. and the first question i said this can only happen to me. you all know what the first question was. and the press is going crazy.

they all wanted to see me. i said, you know, for the first time in my life, i got in trouble by not saying anything. i didn't say anything. and i was in big trouble all over the place. cnn, fox, cbs. every newscast it was the biggest story. i beat out the pope. can you believe it? the only time i will ever beat out the pope. but i tweeted some things this morning. i said, you know, we have to do this. because i wanted to be with you. i didn't want to worry about people just wanting to get comments. and a lot of you didn't see it but i think they are pretty self-explanatory and descriptive. the first one i said, am a morally -- because you know they wanted me to speak up in favor of the president. do you think he is going to speak up in favor of me? why do i think he is not? am i morally obligated to defend the president every time somebody says something bad or controversial about him? i don't think so, right? all right.

so that took care of one. oh, it gets better. then i said if somebody made nasty statements or controversial statements about me to the president, do you think he would come to my rescue? i say no chance. no chance. then i put a third one. i actually did five. and i left it. that was the end of my tweeting for the day. this is the first time in my life that i've caused controversy by not saying something. i didn't say anything. by not saying something. which was sort of amazing. it was some question that i was asked. most of you know what i'm talking about. to me, i just think if i would have challenged the man, the media, who by the way in some cases are really good, really professional. in some cases, they are the worst. the political media are the worst. they are very dishonest, many of

them, many of them. i think i'm going to write a book. hopefully i'll have more important things to do. maybe i'll write the book only if it doesn't work out. if it does work out, i'll be fighting for you very, very hard. i'm not going to have enough time to write a book. this is if i would have challenged the man, the man who made the statement maybe somewhat negative to the president, the media would have accused me of interfering with that man's right of free speech. ain't no win situation. do we agree? if i had stopped him and said, and you remember the famous thing where john mccain just ripped that microphone out of the woman's hands. i don't know. i thought it was a little bit harsh, to be honest with you. does anybody agree with me? that was harsh, wasn't it? they gave him so much credit. not me. i didn't give him a lot of credit. okay. and this is the important one. especially for this room.

christians, i'm a. i'm presbyterian. can you believe it? great people. they are great people. christians, that's all of us, need support in our country. and around the world. their religious liberty is at stake. obama has been absolutely horrible. i will be great. i will protect. believe me, i will protect. because we are not being protected. so the first priority of my administration will be to preserve and protect our religious liberty. the first amendment guarantees our right to practice our faith as we see fit, not just during the holy days but all the time, always, wherever. it doesn't make any difference.

and whomever we wish. we'll be fighting, because i think it's an important thing. we'll be fighting as part common core. and we're going to protect totally the first amendment. boy, he's a hand some looking guy. let's do this. the first question, national security in israel. do you prefer the use of executive agreements for the treaty process in foreign relations and what's your position on the so-called iran deal? and how would your administration under your leadership deal with relations with iran and the middle east? >> good. i like the treaty much better. it is a much stronger agreement. it has to go through congress. you have to get it approved. and this deal being made with iran right now is a disgrace. it's a disgrace.

each is in big trouble to protect israel totally. maybe netanyahu is a friend of mine. in fact, when he ran for office he asked me to do an ad. i did an ad for him. and he won. so i'm happy about that. i did an ald for him. we will protect israel. you go the treaty route. and you will go through congress. which is really a vote of the people. but i think it is very important. so bad from the standpoint of the 24 days, which can be much longer, from the standpoint of $150 billion that's going to be used to create nukes and also to create terror all over the place. all over the place. i will do a section number of them we will be respected. that deal will be much, much better. a lot of people want to rip it

up. but they don't understand the way it works. i do that. i buy contracts that are bad where people have lost. we are going to make it so strong. israel will be safe. we're going to be safe. they are never going to michigan nukes. that i can tell you. the only thing i hate about the timing. money is a very important thing for your country. 19 trillion. used to be 18. now we have to start saying 19. it's going up. it will go up fast because of obama care and other things costing a fortune. we owe $19 trillion. the thing i hate so much we are giving to iran, $150 billion. and by the time i get there, assuming you folks decide that i'm the right one, by the time i got there -- get there, that money will all be gone.

it will all be spent. it will all be given to a lot of people. and a lot of bad people. and that is so sad. and it's going to go very quickly. they're going to give it away very quickly. they can't give it away fast enough. horrible deal. in competent deal done by in competent people. and they should be ashamed of themselves. but we will make it good. >> the second amendment, why do you believe the founding fathers produced the second amendment. >> i believe strongly in the second amendment. and it is something we need. we need it for security, we need it for safety. unabated. we have to have people check for mental health problems, the mental health institutions. if you look at new york and others, they have cut back so far that we have people with serious mental health problems. we will do a lot to fund that because we have to get the people back in the hospitals. i'm a very, very big second

amendment person. one of the things that i have seen that is so absolutely ridiculous totally is taking the guns away from the military. you know we lost some great people recently. great, great people. really highly decorated military people that know how to wear their weapons. they were in a gun-free zone. and they were killed. one badly wounded. but killed. and they had guns, that wouldn't have happened. maybe one instead of five. could have happened. but they were killed. and it is really a sad situation. we would give our guns back to the military. hard to believe we're even talking about it. hard to believe. you might have heard. it is sort of interesting. the polls came out. and they said trump won the debate. the polls say trump won the