in an interview with sean hannity, carson said he was referring to radical muslims or anyone unwilling to follow the constitution. he stopped well short of apologizing for those remarks. he said a muslim could become president with one condition. let's take a listen. >> if someone has a muslim background and they're willing to reject those tenents and to accept the way of life that we have and clearly will swear to place our constitution above their religion, then of course they will be considered infidels and heratics but i'd be willing to support them. >> he did not acknowledge article 6 of the constitution which says no religious test can be used for someone seeking public office. now, several of his republican rivals have said carson is wrong to suggest a muslim should not be president. of course there are about 3 million americans living in the

u.s. who practice the muslim faith. in a different interview last night, donald trump walked a finer line. he tried to defend the idea behind what carson was saying initially. let's listen. >> ben was saying there are difficulties and i think everybody knows what those difficulties are. people want to be politically correct but there have been difficulties and a lot of people agree with ben. >> so ben carson will be campaigning later this morning in ohio. you can be sure this controversy will follow him there. muslim groups have called him to step aside and leave this race which he has rejected. but it is one more thing republican leaders certainly wish, michaela, they weren't talking about this morning in this presidential campaign. >> we will be talking about it further, in fact, in just a few moments time. jeff zeleny, thank you. scott walker who was the gop front-runner in iowa, announcing last night he's ending his presidential campaign. athena jones live in washington

with more on all of those moves. >> reporter: walker is the second candidate to drop out in less than two weeks. he's also the second candidate to do so while taking a swipe at front-runner donald trump. walker had been seen as a real contender a few months ago. now he says he's pulling out of the race for the good of the party. >> i will suspend my campaign immediately. >> reporter: two down, 14 more to go this morning in the crowded gop presidential race. wisconsin governor scott walker, now the second prominent governor to drop out. the reason, money. according to a source close to the campaign. the candidate's super pac raised a whopping $20 million in the first half of 2015. but the source says the money dried up after his poor debate performances. >> scott is still going to serve and continue to do great work in wisconsin. >> walker's message to the remaining 15, clear the field so the top contenders can beat polling juggernaut donald trump. >> i encourage other republican

presidential candidates to consider doing the same. so that the voters can focus on a limited number of candidates who can offer a positive, conservative alternative to the current front-runner. >> reporter: gop candidates still in the running say not just yet. >> i don't have any intentions just in case you wanted to know, that i'm going to announce i'm getting out. >> not going to happen. >> reporter: this as trouble's closest current competitor, carly fiorina, gets a warm lack from monday's night nature audience on nbc's "the tonight show". >> you can go from being a secretary to the chief executive of the largest technology of the company in the world and run for president of the united states. it's only possible here. >> wow. >> i want to make sure that every -- [ applause ] >> reporter: fiorina taking a jab at trump's willingness to meet with russian president vladimir putin. >> the two have a lot in common, actually. [ laughter ] we'll leave it at that. >> reporter: texas senator ted

cruz receiving a less than friendly reception on cbs's "the late show." >> i'm asking what you want. >> reporter: after dodging a question about whether he personally supports gay marriage. >> i believe in democracy. i believe in democracy and i don't think we should -- >> guys, guys, however you feel, he's my guest. please don't boo him. >> reporter: and more on walker, a former campaign aide to the governor who was fired earlier this year after making critical comments about the iowa caucuses took to twitter to blast the walker campaign for a series of mistakes. she said the governor was a flip-flopper who didn't understand the priorities of the gop base. allison. chris? >> so much to talk about, athena. thanks so much. let's bring back jeff zeleny as well as "time" political reporter zeke miller. and errol lewis as well. let's start with scott walker's rise and fall. he was a formidable candidate. he was, i believe, leading tin

january. he was up at 16% in january. you see it slowly decline until this month he's a hash tag. errol, his pac had $20 million two months ago? >> yes. >> what becomes of all of those supporters and the money? >> the money was largely spent which is part of the problem. he had a very top heavy organization. i think they had maybe a little too much enthusiasm, maybe not enough in the way of smarts as far as how to husband that money. they were getting ready to run a 50-state campaign. they staffed up beyond any rational kind of reality on the ground and then a poor debate performance. if you look at what happened in the polls, right after the first debate it fell off a cliff, his support. you know, you really can't blame anybody except a candidate whose message didn't take, whose organization was top heavy and whose debate performance was disastrous. the second one was especially

disastrous. there wasn't a lot he could blame on donald trump or anybody else. >> he said he wasn't getting a word in edgewise. >> yes, part of what happens we saw with carly fiorina and others on the stage, you don't wait for the moderator to point to you. you jump in, show forcefulness and leadership, which is what people are looking for in a president, tornadoes out. >> zeke, he's not blaming it on trump but i think trump has a practical effect on all of these guy. he's on top, squeeze everybody to the to the middle. it just that he couldn't sustain it as was the case with perry or this was volitional, he didn't want it anymore? >> he was at a point where he couldn't make payroll. that's $2,700 increments. he only started raises that at the end of june really. i -- he never really raised a lot. he never really got the same bump that the other candidates did when they entered the race and followed by two sort of tepid, two bad debate

performances and the rise of donald trump. really did squeeze him out from a financial perspective. he would have to shed staff, run a different type of campaign that he was willing to run. it would have meant focusing it all on iowa, running a campaign that was focused on the state like bobby jindal that were really only existent in iowa. that was not the type of race he wanted to run. that's why he got out. >> we're asking, did trump destroy walker's chances? can donald trump take credit for walker getting out. >> he absolutely cannot. scott walker did himself in. i was strk by how open some of his advisers and supporters were. these rumors have been circulating and vultures have been flying around madison, wisconsin, i can tell you. i was struck by how some of his supporters and advisers say, look, he owns this loss himself. it was -- the idea of scott walker as a national candidate was very appealing to many

conservatives but once he got on to this stage, it was clear he was not ready for prime time. a lot of governors have problems answering questions on foreign policy and others. scott walker took it to a new level. he was floundering when he was asked about birth right citizenship. he said that we should build a wall on our northern border in canada at least be open to that. some of his supporters were cringing every time he would say something like this. he owns this himself. >> all right. >> of course donald trump made it more difficult as he has for everyone but you can't blame this on donald trump. >> if donald trump didn't make it easier on him, it does seem like he's making it easier on ben carson. ben carson is getting it from all sides here. i think you'd have to argue justifiably so. his clinging on to it is a reverberation on base. donald trump saying, i get where he's coming from. that's untrumpish. what do you think of this? >> donald trump hasn't come out clearly and said it's outrageous

to violate the constitution and impose a religious test or elaborate on that religious test which is what dr. carson has been doing. >> by making it the test that all elected officials must take. you say the constitution comes first. this is not just for muslims. >> exactly. both donald trump and ben carson have a base that is very fractious and in some ways weird for lack of a better word. in some cases they want to hear you see that sharia law is a threat. that sharia law is the dream and aspiration of all muslims, which it is not. they are sort of trying to play kbal with them and it will only get both candidates in trouble. >> guess what, zeke, i want to bring you in. ben carson says since he made thosen committees his facebook followers have spiked significantly and his donations have gone up. mission accomplished. >> exactly. as we were talking about yesterday. excuse me. that was -- this is ben carson

reinforcing his support among the base. he's going to get credit, support -- >> what base, zeke? what base? plenty of gopers are coming out, saying this is not who we are. this is two steps probably the division with latinos. >> this is 30% of the republican party that says barack obama is a muslim, that is fearful of islam as a whole. you see it in a lot of polling. it's not unique to the republican party. a bunch of them happen to be republicans. and that's who he's going for. it doesn't allow him to extend beyond that. but 30% in a contentious primary still split 15 ways is a win. >> do we want to hear what ben carson has had to say about trying to clarify his remarks? because it is a little different than what he originally said. so let's listen to what he said yesterday. >> if someone has a muslim background, and they're willing

to reject those tenents and to accept the way of life that we have and clearly will swear to place our constitution above their religion, then of course they will be considered infidels and heratics. i would at least be then quite willing to support them. >> couldn't you replace muslim with christian and get the same reaction from most of the base? you know, the christians are doing the same thing with kim davis right now. right? they're saying this is about religious freedom. the constitution shouldn't be seen as right. the supreme court isn't always right. isn't the final law. >> the startling thing in all of this, is that dr. carson thinks he knows a lot about islam and why and how people adhere to it. it's clear that he doesn't have that kind of knowledge. maybe he read a briefing paper. maybe he read a book. maybe he scared himself late at night at some point. but this doesn't have anything to do with reality.

there are more muslims than episcopalians in this country. there's a lot of them. there are a lot of different flavors of how you adhere to this faith. this notion you have to renounce your religious faith before you can be sworn in is exactly what the constitution prohibits. he's not getting himself out of this mess. he seems to be as was suggested holding on to 20%, maybe he wants to take 20% of the delegates into the convention next year and see if he can negotiate something. that's as far as that goes. this is not a country that will allow that. >> errol, zeke, jeff, thanks so much. great conversation. over to michaela. speaking of matters of faith, excitement and anticipation are building as pope francis makes his first historic visit to the united states. in just a few hours time. a just released cnn/orc poll shows how popular he is among catholics and noncatholics along. michelle is live at the white

house. >> reporter: this will start out with an honor afforded no other leader, the president, first lady, vice president biden and dr. jill biden will see him off in this motorcade before this meeting between the president and the pope. what will that discussion be like? one senior administration official describes the top three subjects as poverty, climate change and cuba. you can see this comes at a perfect time for the president to tackle those issues that he really wants to in his last year in office. however, it also comes at a time when the government could be shut down over debate over funding planned parenthood. the broader issue of access to abortion, also gay marriage has just become the law of the land. there's a big divergence of opinion there between the two of them. here's how the white house sees it. >> it doesn't mean they agree on every issue. they surely done. but their focus and the context

of this meeting will not be about politics, specific policies but rather the kinds of values that both men have dedicated their lives to champion. >> we heard from a number of republican lawmakers that the pope is becoming too political, calling his comments lately inappropriate. saying they don't want to be lectured by him on climate change. one republican congressman is even boycotting his historic speech before congress on thursday. chris? >> all right, michelle, thank you very much. this is going to be a big deal any way you look at it. breaking news coming in to cnn. tourists kidnapped by gunman lmen at a resort in the southern philippines. officials say it appears these four victims may have been targeted. cnn's kathy novak is live in seoul with the breaking details. >> reporter: the philippines news agency says around 11 gunmen stormed this resort in the southern philippines late at night and abducted two canadians, one norwegian and one philippifilipino woman. military helicopters and naval

vessels have been searching the area. there's still no sign of these four people or the kidnappers. this happened in the southern philippines off the coast of mindenow. this is an area that's faced years of unrest, involving the taking of foreign hostages. so far, one military official told the philippines news agency there is no immediate indication that the terrorist group abu sayyaf is involved. the canadian government says it is aware of these roars, that two canadian citizens have been kidnapped and it is seeking further information. >> kathy, thank you. more breaking news, one of two inmates who used bed sheets to escape two a louisville, kentucky prison is back behind bars this morning. christopher cornelius was captured hours after that daring

escape. 29-year-old matthew johnson is still at large. authorities say the two tied their sheets together and climbed from the roof of the building down three stories to freedom. both had been arrested for heroin possession. they are now charged with felony escape. a navy pilot survives when his jet crashes near a california military base. the super hornet jet came down near lemore naval air station, south of fresno. the pilot was able to eject midair and parachute to the ground. no word what led to that crash. kentucky clerk kim davis is altering marriage licenses issued to same-sex couples and that cowl be rendering them invalid. the claim comes from the aclu which accused davis of removing the names of a county and the issuing clerk from gay marriage licenses, thereby, violating a court order not to interfere with the process. davis, giving a tearful interview to abc news about the

onslaught of criticism she's hearing from the public. >> i've been called hitler. i've been called hypocrite, a ho many. ofolk. i've been called things and names that i didn't even say when i was in the world. those names don't hurt me. what probably hurts me the worst is when someone tells me that my god does not love me. >> davis's attorney insists she issuance of gay marriage he licenses and has not violated a judge's order. if the judge disagrees, going to jail will not be her choice. >> she hasn't interfered with the issuance but may have changed the face of the licenses, the lettering, the wording on it.

>> she was told, don't mess with the process. >> right. >> she's messing with the process and crying about it. >> right. >> kim davis under the eyes of the law is not a victim. prejudice rarely gets a lot of purchase with intelligence. it's usually emotion. she's crying, she's effusive about it. this is her faith. i get it but it is not the law. if the judge sees it that way, she'll have a problem. >> we'll be watching it happen, i'm sure, here on cnn. >> it's going to happen quickly. >> it will happen quickly. >> another thing that's happening quickly, she's rising quickly in the polls, touting her success as ceo in her bid for the white house. a top yale business professor says carly fiorina, though, was a terrible executive. he's going to tell us why, next when he joins us on "new day." technology empowers us to achieve more.

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top 20 in the business. >> he's a well-known colon continuite and had it out for me at the moment i arrived at hewlett-packard. >> carly fiorina says we need a great ceo as president. the question is does she qualify? yale professor jeffrey sonnenfeld, not the head of yale business school nor yale law school as donald trump has said before but he's an esteemed professor. he says, that carly fiorina was not a good ceo. in fact, i'm putting it gently. he says she's one of the worst technology ceos in history. fiorina tells a different story. jeffrey sonnenfeld, senior associate dean for the yale school of management joins us now to make the case. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, chris, it's an honor to with be you. >> let's deal with your qualification in this matter. are now not a shameless clintonite who's out to take out carly fiorina as you had been

from the beginning and when she was at hp, you had it out for her then, is that true, sir? >> no. as i set in judgment and review of the histories and leadership impact of many of our ceos, if not most of the ceos of our major firms, many of them i endorse and celebrate and others i just think it's really important for capitalism to work, we separate out the good guys and the bad guys and distinguish where the performance deserves to be celebrated. this is not one case. long before she became a political person. i don't see how she can say it's political bias. it goes back well over a dozen years. a clintonite, i'm not sure if that's in the periodic table of the elements or what that is. i'm not a clintonite. >> you do know the clintons. you have admitted to taking runs with bill clinton and talking to him for long points of time. >> i know the clintons have been a houseguest of the bushes on repeated occasions, four current republican presidential candidates have come to me for

advice as a nonpaid adviser, just not taking an endorsement position. i like each candidate to present their ideas the best way they can and get rid of the personal injective to see what are the issues that separate them out. i work very closely with both parties an public a candidate based on the qualities of the candidate, not the party. >> let's do this by deconstruction. fiorina says when i was at hp, times were tough. all tech companies were taking a beating. however, i took less of a beating. i made some hard choices. i own those choices. yes, we lost people but actually the number of jobs grew and hewlett-packard in the years after i left did very well and those on the board who came after me now celebrate the decisions i made. that's her case. what is yours? >> nothing in that is true other than the fact that she didn't take a big -- as big a beating as she should have. and that has to do with the

beating from the political press. was up until now, she's gotten an easy pass until the last few weeks. i'm happy to say, whatever i did by surfacing the actual facts, objectivity facts of her performance, we now have perhaps 200 business journalists who are getting the plot foatform they d have gotten two weeks ago. industry analysts who have been tracking her for quite a long period of time, we now hear what they say. the board, you can look at the published stories. at the time or currently, no board members, only one board member, that one board member who now speaks in her defense was the guy who pushed very hard for her termination and he's quoted all over in the the cara loomis piece in 2005 explaining why she was such a disaster. >> why this now? >> she cut in half the value of

the company. it's the gross distortion. it was $60 billion of value she destroyed and she got over $100 million of payment for doing so. she failed, massive layoffs and things and the fact that everything she bought has been shuttered or divested, that really matters. the decade since, the media, i, the investors and the board and everybody's wrong except her, why in a decade has she never been given a job to run anything since? she's gotten an invitation to show up for one company, a semiconductor company. she's only showed up for 17% of the meetings. in the last decade she's done nothing. >> she says it's personal choice what she's done in the last year, she's taken different opportunities. that's what she decided to do with her life and anything that happened to hp was a function of the marketplace, not of her decisionmaking. >> this is the trouble, chris. the way she brings in me with

personal invective and malice and defamation she throws up her, dissent is equated with disloyalty, more than failure. most of our best leaders have had massive failure. i'm a big fan of redemption. we're going into a holiday period this week of rosh hashanah, atonement, contrition or exoneration is important, coming back from failure, our best political or business leaders have had it. you have to acknowledge the failure. she's in denial of this. she creigh re-creates the histo secretary to ceo, her father was a circuit appeals court judge and dean of the law school at duke. she worked as a receptionist for a few months. that's hardly a rags to riches saga. she's loose and fast with the facts, she bought this big company, compaq, heavy metal equipment that everybody was

vacating, she bought it basically the greater fool, compaq digital equipment and stapled together carcasses of the dying businesses when her now strategy was to be like ibm. going into consulting. she tried to buy pricewaterhousecoopers for $14 billion. those partners sold themselves for a third of that price to ibm for $4 billion. so she flips around, recklessly, shocking everybody. how do you have your strategies going one way and then you flip it and go the other way? it's just the opposite of what say you wanted to do. she has to get a fancy gulf stream forum and all of her predecessors were happy to fly commercial, coach. she upgrades john mccain by saying he has a position on contraceptives all wrong. she says he's not qualified to be ceo of a corporation while she's helping on his campaign. it's an odd person. >> let's do this. this is going to continue, because she's bringing out different numbers and statistics

and her supporters are saying things, professor sonnenfeld -- >> she doesn't challenge statistics out there. what she does is try to attack the critics. >> they are putting out defenses. please, let me invite you back and we'll go through it as it comes out. can we do that? >> happily. sorry. thanks. >> good to have you here and get your take on carly fiorina's time as ceo. pope francis is heading to washington this afternoon. politicians on both sides of the aisle are expected to use his trip to their advantage. how much of a political football will the papal visit be? a look at that, ahead. understands the life behind it. those who have served our nation. have earned the very best service in return. ♪ usaa. we know what it means to serve.

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i just think the pope was wrong. and so the fact is that his infallibility is on religious

matters, not on political ones. >> that was presidential candidate chris christie criticizing pope francis's role in u.s. politics. the pontiff is set to arrive in washington, d.c. this afternoon for his very first visit to the united states. there's a new cnn poll out just this morning that we want to show you. it reveals that 63% of americans have a favorable view of pope francis. >> wait until he answers the race for president. then his numbers will tank. >> good point. this trip is not without controversy, obviously. joining us to discuss all of it, father beck as well as a cnn reporter. there's a piece on cnn pt k.com all the people who have come out to criticize the pope. congressman inhofe says i think it's totally inappropriate that the pope is weighing in on all the real sensitive, far-left

issues. i'm not a catholic but my catholic friends in oklahoma are not real pleased with it. how are these political issues? aren't these biblical values? >> let me give you a quote from the pope. he was preaching his daily homily at st. martha's where he lives. he said a good catholic meddles in politics. he's not talking about partisan politics. he's not talking about the minutia of policy. he's saying how can you divorce yourself from these issues when they're of the gospel, the successes of -- >> he has a phrase, making a mess. he believes in getting involved in controversies and social disorder as a way of finding progre progress. aren't they picking on the global warming stuff, that he's been so heavy-handed, we're causing it, it's a big problem.

isn't that what's triggering their sensitivity? >> yes, it is. you're seeing an arizona republican paul boser boycotting this event. other republicans have not gone that far. they've been critical about what the pope is saying. they don't view it in the theological and spiritual sense. they view it as a political statement. that's one of the things they're concerned about, chris, is that the pope is going to have a humongous worldwide audience, national audience and for him to be able to drive the conversation on issues that they're less comfortable about, they'd rather him not do that. i will say they do want to push the issues of the anti-abortion agenda in the senate this week to coincide with the pope's visit. you're seeing a vote tonight in the senate to ban abortion after 20 weeks. that will fill. there will also be an effort by mitch mcconnell to pass a bill that will defund planned parenthood.

the reason they're doing that is pvisit. it with the pope's clearly, the republicans, even if they're concerned about the pope's politics, they hope on some issues, like abortion, that they can actually win politically by having the pope here. >> that's interesting. let me read another excerpt from monu's article. he says i don't need to be lectured by the pope about climate change. when he wants to take a political position, i will tell you, he is free and clear to be criticized like the rest of us. is that fair, father? >> first of all, to say you're not going to listen to an opinion that you don't agree with to me is infantilinfantile. pope benedict had ten commandments for the environment. no one said he's reinterpreting the ten commandments for the environment. he spoke all about the environment. >> didn't church add abusing the environment to the deadly sins lits. >> he did, pope benedict did.

somehow john paul ii can talk about it, benedict can, this pope puts out a cyclical about it, everybody is up in arms. i don't get it. >> they don't quite view it that way, particularly on an issue like climate change what is incredibly sensitive politically. i would also just like to add, republican leaders and democratic leaders are moving pretty aggressively to make sure there are no outbursts and if the pope does dive into issues like climate change, they don't want any of their members to have a joe wilson, you lie moment. remember that 2009 health care moment when they -- >> who wants to get caught booing pope francis right now? >> exactly. they are actually putting out guidance, the republican leaders and democratic leaders to say no excessive handshakes. nobody should let the pope move about his business because they recognize that the pope is going to probably dive into a lot of

these controversial issues like climate change and they don't want any of their members to really become the news. they want the pope to remain the news and to talk about the issues that he will even if they are uncomfortable for a lot of lawmakers. >> i understand not yelling you lie but no excessive handshakes? what's the problem? >> he likes to shake hands. he'll be hugging people. walk down that aisle and stop and talk to them. especially if someone is in a wheelchair or somebody is on the fringe. he'll walk over to that person. >> what a juxtaposition of tone at a time when we're in the ugly season of politics, what's going on with faith and tolerance. you have a man that's not only reached out to muslims but is saying, stop with all the negativity. what a juxtaposition. >> will he make a difference? will they listen to him? >> dpaernlg beck, monu raju, thank you. we look forward to read iin

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dr. ben carson says he stands by his comments about the potential for a muslim president. he does suggest he's open to muslims who swear to put the constitution before their religion and reject sharia law. carly fiorina for her part says a muslim can be president during an appearance with jimmy fallon, she says she thinks people of faith make better leaders. the gop field is now down to 15 after former front-runner scott walker ended his bid with poll numbers hovering around 0. james blake says his sitdown with new york city's mayor and police commissioner was

productive. blake asked for the meeting after he was mistakenly detaned about i a plain clothesed officer who slammed blake to the ground thinking he was an identity thief. blake does have some things we would like to see happen to that officer. we'll talk more about that when mayor de blasio joins us next hour. j-e-t-s, jets, jets, jets, 20-7 spanking over the indianapolis colts monday night. showcase for the jet defense. aka mean green. intercepting andrew luck three times. could have done it five times. they dropped them out of mercy. five turnovers in all. ruining the colts primetime home opener. >> is this the last time jets will make it in the "new day" headlines? >> no. two down, 15 to go. everybody knows this is the year. >> i've never heard you read a

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decides whether or not he'll jump into the democratic race. we'll speak with a former biden aide just ahead here about the big decision and when he thinks it might come. that's next.

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it's not quite there yet and it may not get there in time to make it feasible to be able to run and succeed, because there are certain windows that will close. but if that's it, that's it. >> time is not on joe biden's side as he continues to explore that run for president. the vice president weighing a number of considerations, both personal and political as the clock ticks down. so let's bring in luis navarro, former chief of staff to joe biden. thanks so much for being on "new day." >> thank you. >> let's talk about the significant time stamps that are coming up by which he should probably make a decision. first, october 13th. that's the first democratic debate. does the vice president need to make a decision before october

13th? >> well, i'm sure the people that are advocating for him to get into this race would love to see him participate in that debate. as the vice president himself has been very clear, whether it has been on his recent tour in florida and georgia, whether it has been on the "late show" with stephen colbert or in the interview segment you just showed, he is dealing with this and wrestling with a very personal decision. he is not going to allow his decision to be defined by artificial -- what he considers to be artificial deadlines. >> yesterday he did talk about those personal considerations. let's listen to more of what the vice president had to say. >> i've known almost every person that's run for president since i've been 29 years old, personally. and it all gets down to personal considerations. because you don't get to -- you

have no right as an individual to decide to run. your whole family is implicated. your whole family is engaged. >> so he talks about his whole family he talks about personal considerations. we did hear this week that jill biden, his wife, would support him if he decides to do that. you were his campaign manager. in '08. what do you think he will do? >> well, i think that he will think about whether his -- what he thinks is best for the country, his party and himself and his family. i think that the vice president has been very clear. one thing about the vice president is, what you see is what you get. insofar as the reports about dr. biden and other members of the family, i mean, one of the strengths of the biden family, one of the many strengths of the biden family that i think was especially on display during the tragedy they have had to deal with since this -- june of this

year, is that they have a slogan sort of from the movie "back draft." you go, i go, we go. and so i think that, you know, they will -- he will listen to them and they will respect whatever decision he makes, because they all know that he will make a decision based on what he believes is best. >> but knowing him as well as you do, do you have a sense of which way he's leaning? >> honestly, i don't have any insight, any particular insight into where the vice president is. i this i, again, one of the things you have to give him is that he is very candid. he's been extraordinarily candid during this very difficult period. the nightmare of every parent. and that we should respect that. i think that there's no reason for us not to take him at his word. >> i accouple of other deadlines that are significant that are coming up that may be on his mind, november 6th is the date he must file in order to be on the alabama ballot, november

27th is when he must file to be on new hampshire. south carolina is next at december 7th and iowa, the all-important iowa, january 22nd. i think everyone feels for him. you know, to be looking at this sort of ticking clock every day and know that at some point the rubber is going to meet the road and, you know, he had said, i think, he would mack a decision by the end of summer. that has officially now passed. when do you think he will tell us officially? >> well, i wouldn't pretend to know. i think that what the vice president is, perhaps, thinking about is that there have been other late entries into democratic nomination rations before. with varying levels of success. bill clinton entered the race in 1991. >> in october by the way. october 3rd, 1991. that's good to remember. he wasn't even in yet at this point in that race.

>> right, right. obviously, times change and circumstances are different. now in the post citizens united phase, money is important and donors are anxious, which is why you saw this public letter just the other day. at the end of the day, the reasons why people would want joe biden to run for president are the reasons why he is going to wrestle with this decision. he is not going to do it unless he believes he can do it 110% as he himself has said. >> luis navarro, thank you for your insight. >> thank you. pope francis makes a historic visit to the united states. scott walker is out. >> i encourage other republican presidential candidates consider doing the same. >> just six months ago he was

the man to beat, at the top of the polls. >> did you mean to say radical islamists. >> that was implied in the comments. >> anyone of any faith is welcome here. >> how would we trust someone to be in the white house to treat all americans equally and uphold the constitution. this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. in just a few hours, pope francis makes a historic trip to the united states. this is happening in the thick of intense presidential campaigning and mobilizing one of the security operations the u.s. has ever seen. in the next hour, the pope will wrap up his visit to cuba with a mass at the country's most treasured shrine. >> all of this unfolding as new cnn/orc poll numbers show that he is far more popular than president obama and congress pretty much combined. both catholics and uncatholics giving him high marks with 63% favorability. let's go to cnn's michelle

kosinski, kicking off our coverage live from the white house. it would be a different day if the pope were not popular among catholics. he says a lot of popular things. what's the position of the white house and what it means when he comes? >> the white house will be loving that agreement. we'll see a greeting that is afforded to no other leader. the president, vice president and their wives will be here as he arrives to andrews air force base. the president and the pope, tomorrow, will have a visit in the oval office. the top three subjects, expect them to be climate change, cuba and poverty. this comes at a perfect time when president obama wants to hit certain topics in the last year of his presidency. he has the approval of the pope on many of them. immigration, income inequality and guns. this all comes when the government could shut down in a few days. there's debate over abortion,

gay marriage has become the law of the land. in those areas, that opinion diverges enormously between the pope and the president. here's how the white house sees it. >> doesn't mean they agree on every issue. they surely don't. their focus in the context of this meeting will not be about politics or specific policies but rather about the kinds of values that both men have dedicated their lives to champion. >> at the same time we've heard from a number of republicans lately saying they don't want the pope to be so political, calling some of his comments lately inappropriate, some saying they don't want to be lectured by a religious leader on climate change. that's why at least one lawmaker is going to boycott his historic speech before both houses of congress on thursday. michaela? >> meanwhile, thousands and thousands and thousands of the faithful will flock to see him wherever he goes. michelle, thank you so much. we turn to politics, dr. ben carson standing behind his comments saying a muslim

shouldn't be president. in a new interview he says he is open to muslims that renounce sharia law. jeff zeleny live in washington, essentially doubling down, isn't he? >> he is, michaela. good morning. ben carson is not backing down. he is saying a muslim shouldn't be elected president. comments that have drawn sharp criticism from many republican rivals who say they're simply misguided and wrongly impugn the islam faith. in an interview with sean hannity on fox news, carson issued a caveat and said he was referring only to radical muslims or anyone unwilling to put the constitution above their religion. he did stop short of apologizing for his remarks where effectively suggested all muslims follow sharia law. let's take a listen. >> if someone has a muslim background, and they're willing to reject those tenets and to accept the way of life that we

have and clearly will swear to place our constitution above their religion, then of course they will be considered infidels and heretics but at least i would then be quite willing to support them. >> but those words are unlikely to clear up any of this criticism. carson is painting the muslim faith with a broad brush here. we talked over and over about the constitution but did not mention article 6 which clearly says no religious test can be used for someone seeking public office. several of his republican rivals have said carson is wrong to suggest a muslim should not be president. even mitt romney weighing in. the 2012 republican nominee who is a mormon. he tweeted of course there's no religious test for the presidency. jeb bush is weighing in saying carson's comments have no place in this campaign. >> i don't think that religion should be a criteria for being president, that there should be

some kind of exclusion based on one's faith or the lack of faith, frankly. >> ben carson will be campaigning later this morning in ohio. you can be sure this controversy will follow him there. muslim groups have called on him to step aside. he's rejected those calls, of course. this episode is defining his candidacy right now. it's one more thing, alisyn, republican leaders sure wish they weren't talking about in this presidential campaign. scott walker trying to persuade trailing candidates to follow his lead and drop out of the race. this as two gop candidates hit late night television. cnn's athena jones is live in washington with the very latest for us. good morning, athena. >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. walker is the second candidate to drop out in less than two weeks. he's less the second one to do so while taking a swipe at the front-runner donald trump. walker had been seen as a real contender just a few months ago. and now he says he's pulling out of the race for the good of the party.

>> i will suspend my campaign immediately. >> reporter: with two down, the jam packed gop presidential race just got a little less crowded. wisconsin governor scott walker, now the second prominent governor to drop out. the reason, money. according to a source close to the campaign. the candidate's super pac raised a whopping $20 million in the first half of 2015. but the source says the money dried up after his poor debate performances. >> scott is still going to serve and continue to do great work in wisconsin. >> reporter: walker's message to the remaining 15, clear the field so the top contenders can beat polling juggernaut donald trump. >> i encourage other republican presidential candidates to consider doing the same. so that the voters can focus on a limited number of candidates who can offer a positive, conservative alternative to the current front-runner. >> reporter: gop candidates still in the running say not just yet. >> i don't have any intentions just in case you wanted to know, that i'm going to announce i'm getting out. >> not going to happen.

>> reporter: this as trump's current closest competitor, carly fiorina, gets a warm welcome from monday's late night audience on nbc's "the tonight show". >> you can go from being a secretary to the chief executive of the largest technology of the company in the world and run for president of the united states. it's only possible here. >> wow. >> i want to make sure that every american -- [ applause ] >> reporter: fiorina taking a jab at trump's willingness to meet with russian president vladimir putin. >> the two have a lot in common, actually. [ laughter ] we'll leave it at that. >> reporter: texas senator ted cruz receiving a less than friendly reception on cbs's "the late show." >> i'm asking what you want. >> reporter: after dodging a question about whether he personally supports gay marriage. >> i believe in democracy. i believe in democracy and i don't think we should -- >> guys, guys, however you feel, he's my guest. please don't boo him. >> interesting w inway colbert

that just now. the governor was a flip-flopper and panderer who didn't understand the priorities of the gop base, as said on twitter. let us discuss by welcoming margaret hoover and john avalon. let's start with something one step off the news. ted cruz, with mr. colbert, i believe colbert is carving out something very much needed in political dialogue now. let's play that sound bite again if we may. if we may. if we may. >> if it doesn't mention it, it's a question for the states. that's in the bill of rights. everything that is not mentioned is left to the states. if you want to change the marriage laws --

>> i'm asking what you want. >> i believe in democracy. i believe in democracy and i don't think we should -- >> no, no, no. guys, guys, however you feel, he's my guest. please don't boo him. >> stephen colbert, right now, everything is about as ugly as you can be, negative as it can be, let's go after him. i like that he's doing that. jon stewart used to not do that with his audience in my opinion. isn't that something that's needed right now? cruz is making a constructive argument about the tenth amendment, what it is, he's forgetting about the equal protections of the 14th amendment. that's his right to argue it. >> charleston, south carolina's own stephen colbert, when he's not in that persona is a gracious guy, a man of demonstrated faith. he's definitely on the left. in creating that space and insisting on civility, it stands out from the tone and tenor of most. >> let's watch a little bit more late night. >> sure. >> carly fiorina also went on jimmy fallon last night and

compared donald trump to vladimir putin. let's watch this. >> donald trump has recently said that he wants to -- vladimir putin is saying he wants to meet with trump when he comes here. he wants to sit down and have a conversation with him. you've met putin. >> the two of them have a lot in common, actually. [ laughter ] we'll just leave it at that. >> that's a good line. >> punching back. >> both men who kill lions for fun. >> and ride around bare breasted. >> bare breasted is even more awkward, i think, in that context. >> carly is having fun. it's nice to see her having fun. >> having fun to expand or to deflect? she's got real questions coming at her again like she did against barbara boxer, her time at hp, how good a ceo she was. what are her real beginnings. sonnenfeld isn't an outlier critic. >> she's going to get there. >> that was a chance and

opportunity for her to appear human and not so deeply reherred and disciplined which she is. that was a good line of deflection. her dining out on the one meeting with putin may have problems downstream with it. but i think there is absolutely credible scrutiny of a ceo of hp, how she did. >> let's talk about the big news yesterday. scott walker dropping out of the race. margaret, you were surprised? >> this is the fundamental headline here is that one, money matters and, two, not all money is created equal. scott walker had not enough hard dollars and a lot of super pac dollars. what happens is, he peaked before he had an apparatus in place to catch the hard dollars that candidates need in order to go the distance. hard dollars mean you're capped at your contributions, everything is transparent. we are hearing rumbles that perhaps staff in iowa hadn't been paid for the last two weeks. he had a speech he had to cancel in california. >> even though he had a lot of

super pac money, that can't go to those expenses. >> it is very clear. you cannot coordinate if you're the super pac with the candidate in any strategy of the campaign. so you can't pay for flights out to give speeches tore campaign dollars. you can run ads. that's the most expensive part of a presidential campaign is running television ads. that's what super pac dollars ought to go for. that's how most campaigns -- >> isn't the lesson of walker that he didn't get the hard dollars as margaret appropriately points out because he wasn't campaigning well. he started out with a presumptive advantage but it faded. >> his peak, what happened chris, his peak was early, february, march, april and he hadn't announced for president until june, july. >> idea of him. the reality didn't hold up to it. >> he didn't have apparatus to capture the enthusiasm when it hit. >> you want to find the truth in politics, follow the money. margar margaret's right. the rnc and crew, who are mostly wisconsinites, that knew reince well, this had been spun for

years as the gop savior, midwest, purple state governor, took on the unions. the hype was so big, people didn't take the time to look under the hood of what kind of candidate he was. within he was on that stage, whether he refused to take a stand on whether president obama was christian, thoat and other flip-flops. >> is trump withering out the bad candidates or candidates that would have risen if trump is not sucking the oxygen out of the room. >> while his hard money was drying up, you can coast on super pac dollars a little bit. >> why didn't he do it. >> it was a very adult decision. he calculated that probably over the long haul he wasn't going to be able to generate the kood of long dollars he needed in order to limp into iowa. he had said he was all in for iowa. >> why is trump coming under fire, trump slipping in the polls, carson somewhat blowing himself up with independent or moderate voters that exist, why

now when things are looking better for him were not worse? >> you could have asked the same question of john mccain in 2007. was john mccain going to quit because he ran out of money, dropped in the polls? no. i thought scott walker was a fighter. he was going to fight for it. but i guess not. >> apparently not. >> you write your own fate in these elections. >> ben carson, since he made his comments about he would never support a muslim for president, his fund raising has gone up, he's gotten more dollars and his facebook followers, social media, people it's not just like it's gone viral. it's like he's gotten more support. more likes were mob followers. it's working. >> it's codified his support among the people who already like him. he's codified the christian conservative evangelical vote in the three pillars of the conservative universe. those people aren't so sure that they want a muslim president and they think they might have one right now. >> which is completely insane.

>> which is false. and which is why it's fantastic. this is what we needed, for the adults to say that's unacceptable, like romney. >> the conservatives have been playing this game for a while. they say something outrageous, there's justified blow back and they play the victim card off of that. that's what's happening here. it was the michele bachmann play, now it's the ben carson play. the founding fathers, if you want to show fidelity, there's a reason they didn't have a religious standard in our constitution. it's not oversight. >> john, marg wet, thank margre. a palestinian teenager was shot and wounded after she allegedly tried to stab israeli soldiers at a military checkpoint in hebron. according to officials, she was

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his first highly anticipated trip to the u.s. the pontiff will then come here to new york city on thursday. the city's police department carrying out its biggest security effort to protect the pope. what is in store in new york's mayor bill de blasio joins us now. great to have you in studio, mr. mayor. >> great to be here, alisyn. >> how on earth do you prepare for a visit of this magnitude? >> they call it new york's finest for a reason. the nypd is up to it because we've had world leaders in for decades and decades. we have the large est leaders, 0 world leaders and his holiness. that combination has never happened before. we're work on the secret service, the fbi and the have to say, the partnerships have been extraordinary but nypd is providing the manpower to make sure everyone is kept safe. >> what's this going to look like? what is security of this level going to look like in the city? >> well, you know, security of this nature, you see a lot of it, then there's things you don't see. that's something we have to make sure we have both of.

but what it means is that we're going to be protecting those global leaders, each and every one in the right measure and, of course, for his holiness, a very elaborate security apparatus. this is a pope who likes to be close to the people. god bless him for that. that's who he is and that's part of why he's beloved all over the world. we'll provide the security but also recognize that he calls the shots. as i like to say, he answers to a higher authority. >> but if he wants to get out and mingle. >> yes. >> with the crowd as we've seen happen, then what? let me just show you what happened in cuba this week when people wanted to sort of rush up and touch him and mingle with him. watch this. i mean, here he is. >> yes. >> and you see a guy run up. that guy who's talking to him. he's a foot away from him. >> right. >> the pope blesses him. but his security wasn't delighted that this guy ran up to the pope mobile and could almost touch the pope. what are we going to do about this? >> i think it's fair to say

security here is different than any other place in the world. in new york city, we take very seriously, very soberly, the fact that we have experienced terrorism and we're the number winterer target in the world. we have a very strong anti-terror apparatus within the nypd. we work, again, very closely with the fbi and the secret service. i think we'll have extensive, careful security but we have to recognize that if his holiness wants to stop and greet people, it's our job to protect him no matter what he does. he will make that choice. it's a balance that we're striking. we feel very confident. we have the personnel. we have the equipment, the training. the pieces are in place. >> it will be fascinating to watch the pope here. >> it will be. >> let's talk about a meeting you had yesterday with james blake. the former tennis pro was was tackled by the new york city police when they thought he was a suspect in an identity theft case. what came out of that meeting? what did you two talk about? >> it was a very productive meeting, positive meeting.

he's talking about the idea of bringing police and community together and find ways to make sure that what happened to him doesn't happen to other people. perfectly fair point. the good news is, commissioner bratton and i have been working on these same initiatives, for example, starting last year we've been retraining the entire police force in how to work more closely with communities and reduce the use of force in any encounter with a resident. this is working already. for example, we have a civilian complaint review board. that v that review board has gotten fewer complaints this year than any time in the last 15 years. >> this officer was not yet trained? why did this happen if there's no training? >> the training is cycling through all 36,000 members of the nypd, the largest police force by far in the country. this particular unit had not yet been trained. 20,000 had been trained. everyone will be ultimately. the help officers understand how to do their job effectively but use the least force in each situation. that's something that professional training allows

for. veteran officers who know how to show others the best way to do it. that's where we're moving. >> james blake wants this officer, who there's surveillance video of him tackling him to the grown. he wants him fired. will this officer be fired? >>s there an internal process. every officer has due process rights. there's an internal investigation and ultimate decision. that's something we honor and respect for every officer. anyone accused in our society. >> do you think he should be fired? >> i think there has to be an internal investigation, a full process that makes that determination. ultimately commissioner bratton will decide. i have tremendous faith in commissioner bratton. >> when you first saw that video of james blake standing, minding his own business, what was your reaction? >> that wasn't the right way to do things. we all understand it was a complicated situation. the goal is for every officer to do what they do with the least

force necessary. when police and community get closer, when there's mutual respect, community members feel she should get close to the police and share information with them, have their back, it makes everyone safer. that's the place we have to go. we believe this retraining will help us get there. >> it seems like james blake is willing to be a catalyst for change and he's actually calling on things he would like to see in as much clout he has at the moment, he wants all officers to have body cameras and he wants there to be financial support to victims of excessive police force. >> james blake has handled an unfortunate situation, obviously with not only a lot of dignity but with certain self-lessness. he's not made it about him. he's talked about where we need to go as a society to a better place. i admire him for that. look, body cameras are something we already started as well. we've started on a pilot basis in a number of precincts. if it works well, i think it will, we'll use more effectively.

body cameras are great for the relationship between the police and commune. they create accountability and transparency for everyone. they give us facts we didn't have to vindicate an officer or community member in certain situations. >> more financial support to victims? >> look, mr. blake and others have raised a series of ideas. i'm not going to comment on them. we certainly haven't looked at all those options. what we do know is there's lots of ways to bring police and commune together. certainly we know our officers are doing a great job. they've continued to bring crime down in new york city. where we can always do better is bringing police and community better that's where our focus is right now. tomorrow, "new day" will be live at the white house. michaela? >> we're looking forward to it all, alisyn. hillary clinton regaining her footing in the latest cnn

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pope francis is preparing to cap off his historic trip to cuba with mass before visiting the u.s. for the first time. president obama and the first lady will greet him as he touches down this afternoon. the pope will address a joint session of congress later this week. in the meantime, a new cnn/orc polls shows 63% of americans both catholic and noncatholic have a favorable opinion of the pontiff. >> ben carson says if someone puts their religion before the constitution, they cannot be in public office. this isn't his criticism of christian clerk kim davis. he's talking about muslims, speaking on fox news carson did take a step toward religious tolerance. his poll numbers are droing but he's in better shape than scott walker who just dropped out making the gop feield a mere 15.

stewart war nell sentenced to 28 years in jail over a 2008 salmonella outbreak that killed nine people and sickened more than 700 others. his brother and food broker, michael received a 20-year sentence. the plant's quality assurance manager was sentenced to five years. you both know i have an issue with r-a-ts, right? >> who doesn't. >> i have to tell you this story. new york city known for having the best pizza and apparently also this rat wanted a bite of the pie. >> i'm surprised he's not on his behind legs. >> he's carrying a slice down the stairs of the subway. he takes off, goes into hiding. i get it. pizza in new york, is really quite tasty. >> yes. >> i will go to various lengths to get a slice. >> that rat went back by the way. >> i hope so. you can't leave a slice like that on the stairs. too good.

>> is there any better illustration of what new york is all about? >> there are many better illustrations. >> the rat race, a little slice of life. >> and the subway. >> the dog eat dog nature. >> i don't know how you fit dog in there. >> i'm on a roll. >> that was good stuff. shifting gears to politics. hillary clinton seems to be rebounding from a summer slump or is this still a tough row to hoe? >> congresswoman, thank you very much for joining us on "new day." you see the new poll numbers. joe biden, does joe biden represent positives about joe biden or perceived negatives about hillary clinton? what's your take? >> well, i think that it's all positive. joe biden is a wonderful vice president and certainly hillary clinton is a wonderful candidate for president. so i think as democrats we're fortunate to have two good

individuals. i think it's more about his son's request to him. i think it's more about his history of wanting to be president, versus it being about hillary clinton. >> senator sanders, what do you think about him, when he comes into the race, he seems to be giving the celebration of passion by the left of the party and hillary not so much, not the big crowds. how do you perceive that? >> well, i think it's going to take everyone. and certainly bernie, like joe, we're all friends. we're very fortunate as democrats, that we have candidates who could represent us well. we done have a cast of characters. bernie represents the far left issue mentioned. i think when you look at hillary and you look at her experience, i think she brings a lot to the table. and certainly when you look at the poll numbers, they've been up and down. hillary is far out in the polls now. i think they're going to continue to increase as we get

closer to the primary date. i think when you look at the number of women, african-american women, african-americans and others who are supporting her, you will continue to see those numbers grow. >> well, you've already seen the numbers continue to slide somewhat, right? she's taken in some measures a hit with women. her unfavorable has gone up. it's almost about 50/50? some numbers. that's unusual. what do you account for it? >> i think it's somewhat unusual if you believe in polls and if you only look at polls. we could look at her polling numbers if we go back eight years ago. i remember in my run for congress, i brought the passion and i brought a lot to the table but my polling numbers, if you believe strictly in polling numbers, i would not be sitting here as a mesh of the u.s. congress. so i don't put all my fate into polling numbers. i believe hillary clinton is dong a great job. i think you're going to continue

to see her grow. i think you'll continue to see those numbers go up. we've seen her in the most recent weeks be able to increase those numbers with women. we've seen her attack the issues. i think that's what it's about. within you look at the issues, the real issue that americans care about, the real issues that women and families care about, hillary clinton is right on target with it. so let's think about the issues that people vote on. people don't vote on the polling issues. >> well, it depends. usually the issues at the top of the polls, as you well know, congresswoman, are the pocket issues we're talking about. it also seems that hillary clinton doing more interviews may be helping her. she was in this cone of silence taking this popular tour with little groups. i don't know that that was working in her favor. let me ask you something about the 2008 race. this intolerance of muslims is

now in the mainstream of the gop field in terms of the level of discourse. ben carson saying what he's saying, donald trump saying what he's saying. there has been push back from the right saying hillary clinton started this obama's a muslim stuff with her campaign circulating a picture in 2008. what do you think of that? >> well, i think if we look at her recent answer, that's what's most important. >> why? >> clearly she defended the president. because she's served with the president. she was his secretary of state. certainly when you look at her remarks, she was one of the first to come out, unlike many of the republican candidates. she came out whether it was trump, whether it was ben carson. >> what about she was the first to raise the issue. not her, her cam pane. you have to be responsible for your campaign. that's how it is. >> i certainly agree you have to be responsible for your campaign. i think i'm more concerned about where she is now and what she's

saying now. i don't think she started this issue also. i think if you look at the relationship that president obama has with hillary clinton, i think if you look at what she just said, and how she denounced all of the things that ben carson and trump didn't do and what ben carson did say. i think when you mentioned polling earlier, when you look at the polling, most people believe that, one, he was born in hawaii and, two, that he's a christian. they accept that he has said that. i certainly know that. and believe that. and i think that's where we move forward. too often we get caught up in the semantics of what one thinks someone said. i can tell you, i know hillary clinton and i know emphatically what she said two days ago is true to what she believes now and what she believed then. they were in a political race. i think often times, people as you know, just like with the

polls, they put a spin on it. but let's look at what she's talking about when you talk about the economy in health care. when you talk about the number -- >> the issues that will make a difference. i hear you, congresswoman. >> and the issues when you look at our prison system and the things she's talking about, reforming, she's right on message with the american people. >> the more talk about issues, the better for the voters, no question about that. >> absolutely. >> congressman beatty, thank you very much for joining us. welcome back to "new day" any time. dr. ben carson the latest republican candidate after donald trump to raise eyebrows over comments they made about muslims. this he going to apologize or will they pay a political price? we're going to discuss it, ahead.

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if someone has a muslim background, and they're willing to reject those tenets and to accept the way of life that we have and clearly will swear to place our constitution above

their religion, then of course they will be considered infidels and heretics but at least i would then be quite willing to support them. >> that's republican candidate ben carson, clarifying earlier statements, now saying he would or could support a muslim for president if that person swore to put the constitution before their religion and reject sharia law. do his comments reflect there is still an anti-muslim sentiment amongst americans? let's dig deeper with dean obidalla. what did you make of that? >> ben carson's new comment? >> the new sounded from ben carson. >> i would be interesting if he would ask the republicans in the next presidential debate, do they put their religion secondary to the constitution? kim davis, the clerk in kentucky

can be n kentucky, she's in the a muslim. she is not. i'm not, i'm a muslim, i've written time and time again about separation v. church and state. who do i get the pub back from? conservative republicans. that's not in the constitution. thom thomas jefferson wants us to have separation between korelign and state. >> what do you anticipate hearing from ben carson? do you think he will apologize. >> no. >> do you want him to apologize. >> no. i think the voters of the gop have a choice. i think he should stay in the race. >> you think he should stay in the race? >> of course. i want the americans to tell us

if they support someone with tolerance. >> you want to see how people will react. we've seen ben carson's support essentially surge, more facebook followers, he says, his donations have increased. there is -- he is tapping into a sentiment in the nation. >> he has. i'll tell you, it's been an amazing week for muslims. we've gone from the 14-year-old to carson saying i can't run for president. i could use a hug at this point. >> i feel like i might want to give you a hug. i'm going to give you a hug. >> to be honest, polls show alarmingly in america only about 30% of americans have a favorable view of islam. that was four or five months ago. ben carson not the only person saying that. >> i do want to ask you what you think can be done that. while we're talking about the political race, we have heard several of the gop candidates come out an say things. we've heard mitt romney tweet. we saw hillary clinton on the democratic side, i think we have her tweet here, can a muslim be

president of the united states of america? in a word, yes, now let's move on. is this an tune for the democrats, for bernie sanders, hillary clinton and the like? >> in that showing that they're embracing of all the different voices in the diversification of our nation, which is still a melting pot, the din different fai faiths. america, the beauty of this country is we're diverse. muslims are a fabric of the part of this nation. some people don't like that. i get it. for the other americans who are uncomfortable with muslims, i understand what you're going through. if i didn't know a muslim and only 25% of americans know a muslim, all you see is isis and al qaeda, people ginning up the hate. >> how do we elevate the conversation? we were talking about it off camera. instead of having -- talking heads on camera yelling at each other about the differences, how do we cast a different light on

muslim-americans and their place in our country? >> i think there's one real problem for us, we're about 1% of the country. i have said time and time again, i would like to be people's muslim friend. >> you're ours. >> i'm happy to be. if you don't have a muslim friend you have no counternarrative to what you're seeing out there. we need a judgment-free, nondefensive conversation answering questions people have about muslims. catholicism was not compatible with the constitution, exact same thing. ben carson is not original. he's copying what we heard in 19606. >> isn't it interesting we find ourselves back here having this conversation again. >> and the pope is here it's interesting. >> makes you wonder where we'll be 30, 40 years ago. >> we'll look back on comments and loom back in embarrassment and shame that some people accepted those views, just like we look back at anti-semitism,

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did you mean to say radical islamist? >> that was implied in a comment. >> i don't think that religion should be a criteria for being president. >> i will suspend my campaign immediately. >> he had a very top-heavy organization. >> people out there are yearning for leadership. >> i earned my way onto the big stage. when i started this race nobody knew who i was. >> pope francis makes his first trip to the united states.

>> hooesz expressing, sense of mercy, sense of compassion. >> he resists the idea that he can't have contact with people coming to see him. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo. allsyn camerota. and. >> he says he could support a muslim in the oval office at some point if they denounces -- and swear to put the constitution before their religion. >> and meanwhile walker is out of race. how did he go from front runner to out? all the answers live in washington. >> good morning.

ben cars season is not backing from his comments. overnight he tried to soften his hard line but only a bit. in an interview with sean hannity carson issued a caveat and said he was referring only to radical muslims or anyone who was unwilling to put the constitution above their religion. but in doing so he drew no distinction between radicals and the three million american muslims who are living here in this part of the country. let's listen. >> if someone has a muslim background and they are willing to reject those tenants and to accept the way of life that we have and clearly will swear to place our constitution above their religion, then they will be considered infiddles and heretics. but at least then i would be

quite willing to support them. >> but those comment, those words, particularly the way of life we have is unlikely to clear up the criticism suggesting that all muslims wall sharia law. and he did not mention the constitution. specifically article 6, which says no religious test well-being used for someone seeking public office. several rivals suggest he's wrong wrong. and look at this tweet from mitt romney, he said there is no religious test for the presidency. every faith adds to our national character. but donald trump of course walked a finer line here. effectively siding with ben carson, saying there is no time for political correctness. >> ben was saying there are difficulties. and i think everybody knows what these difficulties are. and people want to be politically correct. but there have been difficulties. and a lot of people agree with ben. >> the question though, politically correct or factually

wrong. ben carson will be campaigning later this morning in ohio. and you can be sure the controversy will follow him there. muslim groups have called on him to step aside. but this is a defining vote of his candidacy. one more reason republican leaders sometimes are shaking their heads and wondering if this primary campaign is actually damaging their party. >> meanwhile someone who is cropping his bid, governor of wisconsin scott walker. he wants other trailing candidates to do the same thing. this has republican rivals hit late night scenes. round up in washington with the latest. >> walker is the second candidate to drop out in less than two weeks. and just like rick perry. he took a swipe at the front runner donald trump in making his farewell speech. he had been seen as the real contender a few months ago. now he says he's getting out for

the good of the party. with two down, the jam packed gop presidential race just got a little less crowded. wisconsin governor scott walker now the second prominent governor to drop out. the reason, money. according to a source close to the campaign. he raised a whopping 20 million in the first half of 2015. but the money dried up after poor debate services. walker's message to the remaining 15, clear the field so the top contenders can beat polling trump. >> i urge other klds to continue doing the same so the voters can focus on a limited number of candidate whose can offer a positive, conservative alternative to the current front runner. >> gop candidates still in the running say not just yet. >> i don't have any intentions, just in case you wanted to know

that i'm going to announce i'm getting out. >> not gonna happen. >> just as trump's closest competitive carly fiorina, gets a warm welcome from monday's "late night" audience on "the tonight show." >> only in this country you can go from a secretary to the chief executive of the largest company in the world and to the president of the united states. it eat only possible here. and i want to -- [ applause ] >> fiorina taking a jab at trump's willingness to meet with russian president glvladomir muten. >> the two have a lot in common actually. >> receiving a less than friendly receptionen cbs east "the late show." >> after dodging a question about whether he personally supports gay marriage. >> i believe in democracy. i believe in democracy and i don't think we should trust. >> guys. however you feel he's my guest. so please don't boo him. >> and one more thing about

walker. a the former campaign ad took to twitter to approximate blast the campaign for a series of mistakes. saying he was a flip-flopper and the panderer who didn't understand the priorities of the gop base. and here to discuss all offer head lines, our gress. great to have you. let's start with scott walker h. e lost his way somewhere recently. and he lost it in dramatic fashion. what went wrong? >> i think scott walker lost his balance. when this race started scott walker's potential strength was that he seemed uniquely positioned to bridge the economic and social conservative wings of the gop. but i think what happened to him was he basically realigned himself to try to increase odds of winning iowa. became very focused on winning iowa and moved to the right on a

series of social issues, immigration, both legal and undocumented. talk a decision to overturn gay marriage decision. and in the process i think he became less transaattractive to business supporters. all of the eggs in the social conservative basket. and donald trump fell like a house on that basket and took up all the room. and lost support among those who might have originally been attracted to him. and he was left without a country or a constituency. >> if trump is a house, does that make those who he falls upon witches that roll back up under the house. >> that occurred to me. yes. >> how much of this is a window into the role of monday? procurement of it, potential to get it and management of it? >> this shows the super pac isn't the end all be all. he didn't think his super pac

could keep him alive. and remember in the last election gingrich and santorum held on much longer than they were probably really viable to be the republican nominee. so this shows that money isn't everything. and these days is is a real lesson for all of those candidates who might have -- same with rick perry. might have big war chest bus smaller prospects. >> who do you predict will be next to jump out of field? >> i wouldn't be surprised to see bobby jindal out of the race. not clear what he's gaining by staying in. if george pataki or gilmore got out. it would hard to tell. i'm not sure if i would really be counting them. but in terms of major cads, i think jindal is one that it's not really clear. >> why does anyone have to drop. in the exigencies that force you out. like you're broke. >> isn't that always the case? >> but we have a like a year left.

so much o could change. especially with trump and carson with the latest blow up. and i think that is what it it is. in terms of new people coming to them u their poll slide is relevant. why get out in and out. >> i think it does get down to money in this case. if you can't pay your staff or can't pay for a plane ticket you can't run for president anymore. if people can't see you. if you can't get to iowa to gave speech. when they wash away the under card debate. which we think is going to happen for the next debate. that takes away a very large platform. and you can't underestimate the impact that is going to happen. >> let's talk about ben carson and the proposition chris just suggested which is him saying all of these inflammatory things about muslims. he say, his campaign says that his fundraising has gone up. twitter followers, facebook followers have gone up. help ore hurt, ron? >> clearly hurt.

exactly the way chris said. in terms of limiting your support. this republican race is over whimly driven by american identity. the kind of issues that have motivated in the past all are secondary to these questions that seem to be coming one after the other about undocumented immigrants, about now muslims. the question about whether there is a war on christians in the u.s. and we have moved so far from where the gop was in the immediate aftermath of mitt romney's defeat in 2012. and said the republicans had to reach out to a changing america. now you have this fissure in the field. a number of candidate, trump and carson among them, who are essentially are running on resisting the changes in america. and you have the other candidates, jeb bush, kasich, rubio, who are really talk about adapting the party to the new realities and this is a big cross-roads for the party.

that goes way beyond ben carsen and implications whether they can compete for years to come. >> i think it was at the debate where i decided to steal ron brown stein's notion about who it is. let me ask you something. is this actually working in favor of a gop candidate? all this muslim intolerance coming out of some. carly fiorina has been been able to duck some of the scrutiny about her time as the ceo. about this image she points to in planned parenthood as if it must be authentic. some things not coming her way because of this. >> this is allowing carly fiorina really to ride the bump that she got from the cnn debate. she has been able to bat back what ben carson said. that said i think it is temporary. i do think the scrutiny is coming for carly fiorina. and they are going to have to to

be prepared for that. your poll numbers go up. people start listening to what you say and people start looking into your background. so if the fiorina campaign is not prepared for that. that is going to be a rude awakeni awakening. >> as i always say. visibility creates vulnerability. >> who said that. >> ron brown stein said that. >> i want to tell you that donald trump is not letting off his carly fiorina criticism. he was on fox last night and he went back at it. >> i've heard her speak numerous times and she uses many of the same lines and many i co-quote exactly word for word. and it comes out like a robot. and frankly if you hear her for periods of time you get a big fat beautiful headache. >> we worked the beautiful in again there. >> oh man. >> look.

i mean this is -- i mean, you know, for a portion of the constituency they love hearing donald trump go after everyone. but i do think this is ultimately limiting. it is exhausting to hear donald trump personally condemn anyone who kind of rises up to threaten him. and i think that it does reinforce the doubts particularly among white collar republicans about whether he has the temperament and personality to succeed as president. and only 40% of the republicans with a college degree said trump has the temperament and the personality to succeed. this serial kind of spraying the field with invective i think adds to those doubts and hardens the lines about who is willing to support him and who is not. puts a ceiling potentially on the support. and 43% have polled republicans also think president obama is a muslim. >> jackieex ron, thanks so much.

>> smart people around me. why wouldn't i take benefit. >> equal opportunist. >> you say good things. i'm going to take them. >> at least when he contributes it. >> of course we're all watching and waiting. intense anticipation is building. support for pope francis in the u.s. just hours before his visit. looking right now at live pictures of the pope celebrating mass at cuba's most revered shrine. the pope will begin today his trip to america. >> reporter: what a trip its's been. the pope is celebrating his final mass. we expect cuban president recall castro is in attendance at the holy shrine. the shrine is over 500 years old. and even though it will be the smallest mass in attendance of the pope it really has a lot of

resonance with the cubans. street. thousands packing the its been a tough trip for the poem. he had a little bit of a cold when he aid arrived. but the enthusiasm has carried him through. and i'm sure there will be even more enthusiasm and larger crowds when he gets to the united states. he'll leave in just a few hours, about midday cuba time from santiago cuba. he'll be sent off by cuban president recall castro. and greeted at joint air force base by president obama, michelle obama and the bidens. he'll be addressing congress, the white house. in addition to going to washington d.c. he'll be visiting new york city and philadelphia. and we are expecting a big turn out. lots of enthusiasm just like he received here in cuba. chris? >> thank you patrick. we'll be dpoling it every step

of the way. in other news. china's president kicks off a trip to seattle. meeting with the microsoft and boeing. set to meet with president obama thursday to talk about issues like the economy and climate change. there are also of course expected to address these hack attacks that american officials say they traced back to cyber criminals in beijing. >> and hillary clinton getting ready to prep a plan for precipitation drug costs. capping out out of pocket expenses and make pharmaceutical companies reinvest into the research. this after hillary clinton tweeted about a drug that spiked from $13 a pill to $750 a pill. the ceo says the pill is rarely used and the impact will be small. >> a teen suspended and arrested, the parents have officially withdrawn him in his dallas area high school.

ahmed got into trouble after officials mistook the clock he had made for a bomb. he said he is still deciding where to send his children to school for now. i wanted to change the narrative a little bit. and show the way we should be showing ahmed. he was invited to the google science fair. he was there at the mountain view campus of google. and there he is. where he was treated like a rock star. one of the invitations that he's been receiving since all of this went down. >> that is great. that is great. you never know what opportunity will come out of a challenge like that. >> the swing of the pendulum. from intolerance to tolerance. we see that. and here comes the pope. the pendulum swings back. he's going to get a lot of ceremony, pomp and circumstance and lots of security as well. how to protect the pontiff. details ahead. to clean the oceans, to start a movement,

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logistics even. jay johnson said each of the stops on this three-city tour -- and we know there are dozens of them when you think of all the things on the pope's itinerary. each one has been deemed a national security event. put that together and that means a headache. >> yes. this is unprecedented historical, no joking security right now. the problem is the number of events of a geographic aal area. a national security event is basically the way the government organizes all the different pieces of in security. you also have about the highest profile vip coming to the country. a man who has insisted that he have access to people. that you have to respect. so you have this very difficult balancing between needing the sort of highest level of security and respecting someone

whose essentially visitor to our country with millions of people wanting to see him. >> let's play sound from mayor de blasio who east really addressed that main purpose of the pope's visit.'s really addrd that main purpose of the pope's visit. >> in new york city we take very seriously that we have experienced terrorism. and we're the number wurn target in the world. we're going extensive security. and if his holiness wants to stop and connect with people. that's a choice. so it is a balance we're striking. >> how do you strike that balance? it is the primary focus to touch and reach out and interact with his faithful. but the primary focus with security officials to keep him and the rest of the public safe. can those two things co-exist? >> yes they can. i think there is going to be a

focus on what we call perimeter security. in other words there will be so much security to get into an area in which then you could have closer access to the pope. that is why traffic and everything else in cities like d.c. and new york is going to be so difficult. because there just is simple going push the security out and make sure anyone who gets close to the pope is okay. is not a security threat. doesn't mean it will be perfect but that is going to be the philosophy. you can imagine at every event how many difficult questions are arising. >> absolutely. >> some are quite intimate and some are larger. >> we saw this situation play out in cuba. as a security official that's got to concern you. and granted this man seemed to be over brought and pleaing for help. testifiesn't a threat b he wasn't a threat but that's got to be a concern. >> every person who see it is pope as someone who can help is going to want access and then of

course we have security threats. and i will say one thing, not being political here. but when you have congressmen saying they are not going to see the pope have a discussion about islam. our political leaders have an opportunity to create an atmosphere of tolerance. and i think it's incumbent on all of us to say whether we agree or disagree. tolerance is actually the most secure environment we could have in this country. >> important statement there. that is so true. we know the vatican has warned pope francis has been the subject of some threats in the past. we know there are no known credible specific threats to the pope. but obviously it is still a concern. when you add to the fact that 170 world leaders also happen to be coming to new york at the same time for the unga, the general assembly here in new york city. that is sort of a convergence of so many things at once.

and that again points to the unprecedented nature of this visit. >> right. and then add in the chinese leader coming later in the week. literally i hope everyone in the secret service is planning a vacation in ten days. because this ten day period is going to be like i think something that the department of homeland security has never sort of managed before in terms of its length and in terms of its intensity. one thing goes wrong we're going to all focus on it. and that is why -- that is why people may say that it is security theater. i sort of argue back. we have -- there is no room for fault in this instance with the pope. >> absolutely right. >> that whether there are risks or not. whether we have credible threats or not. zero tolerance for anything happening to him. >> thanks for joining us on "new day" as always. we appreciate it. cnn will have comprehensive coverage all this week. tomorrow "new day" will be on the road life at the white

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dr. ben carson just drew a big old line in the sand. he says a muslim should not be president. last night, you know, the word in the prompter is backtrack. i wouldn't say that. i say he kind of qualified saying well maybe he could support a muslim for president if he or she swears to put the country ahead of the religion, like every candidate has to by the way. so what are carson's rivals doing about this rhetoric? we have our guests. kevin, i start with you.

allsyn and were talk. could this be the next formative event? >> i don't know. i don't look at campaigns as events as much as the processes. i think it was part of the process. think i think this is going to be bring the kind of scrutiny to the ben carson campaign that he's clearly not ready for. i think other campaigns who are looking at ben carson like he's holding onto the electrorate right now. they want the voters to fall to him. >> and amanda, there have been a bunch of gop contenders who have come out and either condemned r orror backed away. cruz, kasich, jeb bush. lindsey graham was quite forceful saying he needs to apologize. but donald trump has taken a different tact.

he sounds as though he's given support to ben carson. listen to what he said. >> ben was saying there are difficulties. and i think everybody knows what those difficulties are. and people want to be politically correct. but there have been difficul difficulties. and a lot of people agree with ben. >> look, this is what ben car n carson's people and donald trump keep saying. we're not going to be politically correct. this is just about political correctness. how do you see it. >> i don't think donald trump has a choice. he was the highest birther in america. people forget he was on tv all the time demanding obama produce the birth certificate. so donald trump playing footsie with this issue at every venue possible. i don't see there is any way he could bush back on that question. i'm happy to see them get the scrutiny. and this is nlt the first

objectionable thing carson has said. he's all over the map on so many issues. competing minimum wage. and installing federal monitors in the classrooms to make sure there is no liberal bias. he needs some scrutiny. because the second, you know, number two status he's injoid this far has not been earned. >> do you think this issue may tighten up the difference between carson and trump and the rest of the field? at least with fiorina, who gave an incredibly intelligent and inclusive answer about the role of faith for leaders. >> i think it will take place over time. and ron brownstein made a point earlier that i agree with. there is a bit of a fissure in the field. two candidates trump and carson who seem to be defining their

candidacies on what they are against. and the others are promoting based on what their vision for america is. i think ultimately one thing after the other, as amanda pointed out there are a number of issues that are going to add up for ben carson where people are going to have have serious doubts about his readiness, about his adjustment as the potential president and i ultimately i think the rest of the support will come back to the other half of the field. >> doesn't this also hurt the rest of the field? because there are people like kasich who are trying to have a policy discussion but keep having to address these conflagrati conflagrations. >> and it's unfortunate. but i want to jump on a comment chris mentioned about whether we're going to see a contraction in the field. we immediately saw the field contract yesterday with the departure of scott walker who

said in no subtle terms he's doing there to unify the antitrump, and anticarson imsure he meant vote. he dropped out so there could be some coalescing around other candidates. >> thanks so much. great to get your perspectives. the front man of youtube showing he has a heart of gold. bono fight for a cause. what and why it is so important when "new day" returns. ♪ you just gotta find that balance. ♪ where taking care of yourself takes care of more than just yourself. ♪ lease an mkz hybrid for $299 a month only at your lincoln dealer.

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here we go with five thimpx to know for your new day. number one. showing you pictures of the pope francis separating his final mass in cuba. this afternoon he'll arrive in the united states. ben carson is now absolutely standing by his belief a muslim should not be president. he now acknowledges a he could support that muslim leader if they re --. >> governor of wisconsin renouncing his running. and two inmates who used bed sheets to escape from kentucky prison are back behind bars. they were captured just houfrs after their daring escape according to a local station. china's president xi jinping headed to the u.s. today. he is expected to meet with

president obama this week to  talk economy, climate change and cyber crime. for more on the five things, be sure to visit "new day" cnn.com. with the pope arriving in the u.s. today all eyes will be on his united nations address friday. the issue of extreme poverty is expected to be front and center. for u-2's bono the issue has been a life's work. cnn caught up with the rock star in between towers. and while he says progress on eradicating extreme poverty is happening, there is still a whole lot more work to be done. ♪ this is how most people know bono. as the electronifying rock star for u-2. but away from the lights this is bono's other main stage -- the continent of africa. >> i started to work for nelson mandela. and he said poverty is not

natural. it is man made. and it can be overcome. poverty is -- it is an easy word to throw around. but it is not -- it is not simple to understand. it can be, you know, a famine or it can be conflict. but the thing that really offends us is i suppose when there are structures in place that keep people poor. that is the thing that really gets me going. >> cnn met up exclusively with bono in nigeria after the stop in rwanda. where a small but partisan u.s. congressional relegation saw firsthand the progress and plight facing first responders on the ground. it had been sen years since bono visited rwanda but he promised he would be back. >> when i first went, we had finally got across the line universal access to arvs, aids

drugs. and i was in a teaching hospital. and i witnessed six people on a bed. three of them patients. under the bed, on top of the bed. the despair of people receiving their diagnosis. and realizing this was a death sentence. so an accident of geography, literally where you live, was deciding whether you live. >> bono also made a promise to this woman, a nurse. >> what is your name? >> [ inaudible ]. >> this is actually florence nightingale. >> and a decade later the two were reunited. >> you promised you would come back. nobody comes more than once. here you are again. >> it was very moving, challenging to me to realize just how significant the gap is in the quality of care available here and the quality of care

available in this which really is rwanda's best children's hospital. >> cris coons of delaware was on the trip. a trip ahead of the pope addressing the united nations general assembly, where eradicating extreme poverty by 2030 is expected to be one of the top global development goals. >> that is a big goal. is it realistic. >> that ambitious goal of ending extreme poverty by 2030 is entirely possible. if we wisely deploy the development dollars, the assistance provided by the united states and many other western countries and if we embrace and leverage the power of the private sector ♪ you can be whatever you want to be -- ♪ >> i'm not really motivated by charity as am motivated by justice. christ only speaks of justice once. it is about the way we will treat the poor. so i think it's the second most important theme of the

scriptures. after redemption is how we treat the poor. so i'm just doing what i'm told. >> according to the one campaign there are nearly 11 million people in africa who now have access to live-saving medications. that is an incredible accomplishment if you consider that in 2002 only 100,000 had access. incredible progress. >> he just continues to co-amazing work. >> sure does. >> thanks so much. 40 years ago sarah jane moore attempted to assassinate president gerald ford. now she's talking about it. her answers are still just as shocking today. i was really surprised that i wasn't finding all of these germans in my tree. i decided to have my dna tested through ancestry dna. the big surprise was we're not german at all. 52% of my dna comes from scotland and ireland.

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40 years ago today, sarah jane moore aimed a gun at president gerald ford and fired single bullet. the bullet missed by inches. that attempt just 17 days after another woman tried to assassinate ford. saria jane moore saved life sentence but she was released on parole in 2007 and she's now speaking out and joins us this

morning. sarah thanks so much for bng on "new day." you say it's been 40 years today. but yet you remember that day of the attempted assassination vividly. tell us what you ren. what drove you to want to try to assassinate president ford? >> well everybody asks that. and the thing is that everybody was talking about it. they say where did you get the idea? i don't know about the rest of the country but in san francisco people were saying this all the time. number one, we elect our presidents. we don't appoint them. and gerald ford was appointed and he was appointed by a crook, if you will porn the expression. so it wasn't a unique feeling. it was partly that there were other people who had talked about it, who i thought were much more important to what we were thinking of as a revolution and we really truly thought there was going to be one.

and i thought somebody like me, i was a nobody, it would be better coming from somebody like me and not destroying these people i thought were leaders and if they did this, it would destroy their leadership. >> so you missed. obviously.and ow long after you fired that bullet did the sort of realization t enormity of what you tried to do dawn on you? >> oh i think the enormity of it had dawned on me before. as i said in a letter that i wrote to president ford later that, i think life -- well life was more important then than it is now. it wasn't, you know, sort of an awesome decision to make a decision to take somebody's life. i don't think people feel like that now. but at the time it was. so the decision ahead of time. the thing that surprised me and this probably sounds very silly is i was concerned about the publicity but only in the bay area. it never o cowaccurred to me th this was a story that was going to go all over the world.

>> oh my gosh. >> yeah. >> you served more than 30 years in prison. you got out in 2000 -- >> more than 32 years. >> you got out in 2007. you then were given five years of parole. are you still on parole? >> yes i am. the rules say that after five years of clear conduct, like a mandatory release. you are supposed to be released from parole. and i am now seven years of clear conduct and yet to be released from parole. >> and why is that? i mean, i believe that you have gone on and proven as best you can to the court that you are now an upstanding citizen. you have turned over a new leaf. so what do they tell you? >> well i was always a pretty good citizen. let's not talk about turning over a new leaf. nothing. the first time they turned me down i was shocked. because one would have thought the incident had happened the day before the way they talked about me. and i just was in total shock.

and they repeated much the same this time. they are supposed to release you unless they feel that you are going to commit another offense. and i don't know what offense i would commit. jaywalking perhaps. >> there you have it. i say you have turned over a new leaf and you bristle at that. but you tried to kill the president of the united states back then. >> yes. but it makes it sound like i was a totally different person. and i was pretty much the person aim now. had gotten into something over my head. i will admit that. had quit listening to reason. so for a little while i was a different person. but in terms of being your ordinary normal citizen who gets up and goes to work and, you know -- i think the most -- yeah, i think the only thing i had before was a ticket for jaywalking. >> you spent your time in prison and now five years on parole.

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