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a president and vice president greet any world leader as he or she lands in the u.s. then, of course, later this morning, from the white house, pope francis' first address directly to the american people. he will be doing that in english to help get himself across. but as you know, he also speaks in gestures from that gesture yesterday of out of respect for the yom kippur holiday, his first night in the u.s., a quiet one, no public events. >> for the first time, pope francis is waking up on u.s. soil this morning. marking the beginning of a nearly week-long visit that millions of people of all faiths have been anticipating. today, 15,000 visitors are expect on the white house south lawn to witness day two of the pope's visit. pope francis and president obama will speak to the world, then obama will present pope francis with a customary gift and hold a
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one-on-one meeting with only translators present. it remains unknown what the two leaders will likely discuss. >> with two men of this caliber who share ideals and who share values about human decency, respect for human differences, i think that it's going to be a really, really positive visit. >> reporter: the moment the pontiff touched down in washington tuesday afternoon, he made history. >> so glad you're in the united states. >> reporter: never before had a sitting american president and vice president and their families welcomed a foreign leader. the people's pope leaving andrews air force base not in a limo or popemobile but in a relatively inexpensive and compact italian-made fiat. it's a historic visit requiring an equally historic amount of security. >> we planned for the worst or the unexpected. >> reporter: the secret service and fbi coordinating one of the largest security operations
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ever. deeming the sometimes unpredictable pope's stay a national security special event. >> with this pope he could get out anywhere. you have to resource allocate all of those special weapons teams and people in the crowd, really everywhere along the route. >> reporter: and later this morning, another first when the pope leaves the white house. here he's going to get his first ride in his popemobile. he'll head on to st. matthew's cathedral, the cathedral where john f. kennedy was barried after being assassinated and from there on to catholic university again in that pope mobile. that will be the first chas for many americans to see him face to face. we expect thousands of people to see him up close along that parade route. i'm sure he'll enjoy that moment as well. he loves to connect with people. >> i'm sure it will be enjoyable for everybody. we've covered a lot of events over 25 years, this one does feel special. one of the curiosities about what's going to happen is what
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the pope will say in all of these different settings. we know this, what he says in public is often what is different than what he says in private, especially with world leaders. we saw in cuba. will that be true today when he meets with the president or will it be all smiles in the press-op or will there be tension? michelle kosinski, what do we know? >> reporter: the pope arrives here at the white house around 9:00 this morning. around 10:15 he will meet with the president. we're talking just the pope and the president in the oval office with two translators present if needed. but the white house says that this is expected to be in english, which the pope has been practicing. they say it's expected to be personable and friendly. it will last about 45 minutes to an hour and will surely touch on climate change, poverty and cuba. of course there are questions, for example, will the pope express irritation over the administration's stances on abortion, on gay marriage? this is the pope, remember, and on hot button issues, topics
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don't always come up as you might expect. look at the meeting the pope just had in cuba with president raul castro. castro walked away not feeling rebuked over cuba's lack of freedoms and human rights but told the reporters the pope made him feel like he might want to start going to church again and praying again. look at problem's laesident oba meeting with the pope, there was wrangling over the affordable care act but said he did really come up. the white house says this is going to be about finding common ground, not about politics. chris? >> easy to say. what will be the reality? there are so many points of division in terms of what this pope thinks should be going on and what the current state of affairs in the u.s. is. it will be interesting to follow. thank you so much. pope francis will leave the white house aboard that pope
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mobile if that's what you want to call it, that fiat, tens of thousands of people are expected to line the streets along the parade route. we have cnn's carol costello live at the national mall. spectators coming behind you, most of them just your fans. what do you think will happen throughout the morning. >> i wish that were so. it's so exciting down here already, chris. there are literally thousands of people already here. i spoke to evan, an american university student in his early 20s, he's been around this area since 1:00 this morning. he wants to get the perfect spot to see pope francis and he's exactly the kind of person, chris, that pope francis would like to see come down. he was raised catholic, he considers himself a lapsed catholic but the pope intrigues him. he's open to things. i think that will bring a smile to pope francis's face. security is very, very heavy. most of the streets are blocked around the parade route. a short parade by the way. 15 minutes.
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the pope will leave from the south side of the white house, travel down 17th, turn on constitution, turn on 15th and the parade will be over. it doesn't matter for the thousands gathered here. they're down here for a special moment and maybe, just maybe, the pope will get out of his specially made pope mobile and greet the crowds. that's what everybody is hoping and that's why everybody is down here. back to you, chris. >> you know, carol, there's such a mixed feeling about that, because we saw what happened in cuba. people were able to get up to him and they seemed hysterical. they weren't moved away right away. the security concerns are paramount. how cool is it that the pope mobile will be a jeep wrangler? incredible scene along those streets. you have the moment and then the message what can we expect this pope to say this morning? we have great insight for you. john allen, cnn senior vatican analyst and associate editor of "crux" magazine and also the
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author of "the francis miracle." we also have the author of "the global vatican." thank you very much. we have what is seen as politics and the religiousty of this. what is the mandate for the pope and his message, what do we see as the headline, coming as pope? >> he's traveling not as a politician but as a pastor you'll expect to hear messages that are primarily spiritual in moral. he sees himself as a voice of conscience on the global stage. that said, there is a political to-do list on this trip. i think he's going to want to encourage the united states to continue to be an open, welcoming society, particularly with regard to immigrants. remember he is himself the son of immigrants. his grandparents immigrated to argentina in the 1920s. i think we'll want to talk about that experience. i would also expect we'd hear something from the pope on the issue of religious freedom,
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that's part of the american heritage and it's been a flash point of tensions between the catholic community an other religious communitiy ies and puc authorities. i would expect all of that to be in the mix. bear in mind, the pope is a politically savvy figure. he's aware there has been ambivalence about some in his positions. this is his opportunity to speak past the media filter and introduce himself directly to the american public. i would expect him to take full advantage of that. >> ambassador rooney, this is a pope and a man that we know doesn't really care too much about the criticism that comes his way. and when we're talking about these different categories that john laid out, how attuned is your sense of where the vatican is in terms of observing what's going on and u.s. culture and politics right now? and how much will that be the premise for what we hear from the pope in your estimation? >> well, i think, as john says, the pope is the consummate global moral authority as well as the head of a sovereign state. as such i think he will stay
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with the large themes, the global themes and try to urge the united states to rise up and reach towards those lofty goals. it's inevitable there will be political ramifications. i think we can expect, at least from my experience, dealing with the secretary of state's office, they will be studied up and deeply in tune with the responses that americans have had to what the pope has said so far. >> it's interesting. behind us right now, people are flooding in. all these people are waving argentina flags and staring with fixed eyes on the stage and we're hours from when things will happen. it's a measure of the excitement here. john, in terms of what the pope said on the plane yesterday, it's interesting how responsive he was, i'm contradicting a point i just made to ambassador rooney. he was responsive to criticism that he is left. he was making the point that everything he's saying is from catholic orthodoxy in terms of positions of the vatican. how true is that and when you
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look at the pope, can you look at him through the traditional political lens of left and right? >> i think pope francis is where that division between left and right goes to die. on some issues, he's going to come off by american standards as remarkably progressive, immigration, climate change, concern for the poor, bar and peace, all of that. but in other matters, particularly having to do with the family, with sexual morality, abortion, same-sex marriage and so on by our standards he'll come offs aright wing. truth of it is, the word i think he would use for himself is orthodox. you mentioned a bit ago, the pope doesn't care about criticism. i'm not sure that's exactly right. he's determined not to be hobbled by criticism but he knows if there is blow-back and resistance based on what he sees as a misunderstanding, he needs to try to clear away that misunderstanding. he was asked about the news we cover, is the pope still
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catholic? he said if you need me to, i'll recite the creed, the prayer that catholics state at mass stating their beliefs. i think he was concerned to make this message to america. he's not coming here as a left wing or right wing figure. he's coming here as a voice of conscience that wants to speak to everyone. >> that becomes a metaphor, doesn't it, ambassador? within catholicism it's about the rationale for the rules and how you apply them to different situations. that's where this pope is trying to create space between the church that he inherited and the church that he'll deliver. politically it's the same thing, right? within he talks about capitalism, it's not whether it's good or bad, it's how it's applied here in the united states. question is whether or not he is trying to be provocative and some indications are, yes, he will be. >> i think his capitalist commentary is rooted in his argentine experience where it's a totally different situation than we have in the united states. they have no safety net for the poor. crony corrupt capitalism, large
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family and corporate enterprises that are embedded with the state. i hope he learns here and sees, that our unique combination of freedom and of individual and economic freedom has created a different economic model that has provided more to more people than any government system yet. and i think that would be a great outcome for this trip. i should say also, that he has also resisted -- he's resisted being one way or the other. he's criticized what he called an irresponsible populism in argentina. when he spoke average originally about social justice, he said i'm not calling for a welfare mentality. cnn made a point of reporting on that last year when he said that. he resists being pigeon holed right or left. >> thank you very much. let's not forget, one of francis's signature phrases is
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"making a mess." let's see what he does with that opportunity this morning. cnn will have special coverage of this white house ceremony and all of pope francis's events throughout the day. tomorrow, "new day" will be live at the u.s. capitol. he's going to deliver his speech in english to the joint session of congress, alisyn. it's not his first language. he doesn't have a lot of comfort with it. will that change how spontaneous he can be? one way or another, everybody can understand it. >> we like people who mix it up. back to you in a moment, chris. first we need to talk about mixing it up on the campaign trail. ben carson and donald trump spending part of the last 24 hours trying to explain their stance on muslim-americans. can muslims serve as president and does donald trump still believe president obama is not american? athena jones live for us in washington with more. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. trump defended himself again on
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cbs. in response to a question about the man at his town hall who said president obama was a muslim, that america had a muslim problem and who advocated getting rid of muslims, trump said the man's question didn't mean he was a bigot. take a listen to what else he had to say. >> i don't have to defend president obama. he's not going to defend me. i love the muslims. i have many, many friends. i can say there are no problems with the muslims. there's no terrorism, no anything. they didn't knock down the world trade center. to the best of my knowledge, the people who knocked down the world trade center, they didn't fly back to sweden. >> the people supporting him agree with what he's saying. by the way, trump is also not answering questions about whether president obama is a muslim. meanwhile, ben carson who said sunday he wouldn't advocate having a muslim in the white house is now shifting his position. take a listen. >> i said that anybody who
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embraces our american values and our constitution is somebody who is acceptable to me. of course if they don't, i don't want them to be the president of the united states. >> so carson says he hasn't changed his position here, of course, a lot of folks would say that changing positions is something politicians do and what voters like about carson is that he's not a politician. in any case, this issue is not going away. we'll have to see if it hurts either of these candidates in the polls. michaela? >> let's play that sound from donald trump on the late show with stephen colbert. he was asked on whether he thinks the president is an american citizen. he refused to answer even after he was bribed. take a look. >> let's talk about immigration for just a second. >> okay. >> okay. i know that you believe illegal immigrants should all be true? ed. >> that's true. we have to bring people -- we have a country, we have borders.
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we don't have a border right now. we'll build wall, number one. number two -- [ applause ] listen to this, even with your crowd. >> they love the wall. people love the wall. >> we have to have a wall. we have to have a border and in that wall we'll have a beautiful big fat door where people can -- they come into the country and they come -- listen to me. a beautiful door where people can come into the country but they have to come in legally. 2,000 years ago you have the great wall of china, 13,000 miles long. >> jesus helped build that. >> here we're really talking about -- you're right. here you're talking about 1,000 miles. you're talking about 1,000 miles. 2,000 but you need it in a thousand miles. we can have a great and beautiful wall. it will be up, it will stop, we'll have our border and guess what, nobody comes in unless they have their papers. >> i'm going to throw you up a big fat meatball for you to hit out of park right now.
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>> good. >> this is the last time you ever have to address this question if you hit the ball. >> okay. >> there's like sauce all over my hands, this meatball is so big. >> i want to hear this one. >> barack obama born in the united states? >> let me just -- >> was he? it's a meatball. >> i know. >> it's hanging out there. right there. come on. [ applause ] >> you want to know -- i don't talk about it anymore. >> you talk about it? >> i talk about jobs. i talk about our veterans being horribly treated. >> you know that meatball is being dragged down the steps of the subway by a rat. >> i saw that rat. that was not pretty. >> you missed the meatball. >> i talk about jobs. i'm talking about vets who are treated like third-class citizens, worse than the illegals. the vets in this country are so mistreated, terribly. i'm talking about the military. those are the things i'm talking about. i'm not talking about that. >> we'll have much more of donald trump's appearance on
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stephen colbert coming up with our pundits. meanwhile, democratic presidential front-runner hillary clinton breaking her silence open the keystone pipeline, saying she is against the project. her decision immediately drew praise from liberals and environmental groups and criticism from republican presidential candidates. clinton said she had not revealed her position until now because she did not want to interfere with an ongoing state department review. general john allen is stepping down. allen informing the white house and state department he will leave his post in early november. sources say he has grown increasingly frustrated with the administration's policies. meanwhile, top u.s. military commanders are urging the white house to provide arms and ammunition to a coalition of 5,000 syrian rebels fighting isis in northern syria. sad breaking news overnight. new york yankees legend yogi berra has died at the age of 90. the hall of fame catcher helped the pinstripes win ten world
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series championships over his long and storied career. boris sanchez is here with more. >> reporter: he used to say it ain't over till it's over. sadly this morning we have to report it is over for yogi berra. he left behind a lasting legacy as the heart of baseball. >> reporter: yogi barery, one of the greatest catchers in baseball history shaped american culture both on and off the field. >> yoga berra who said you can observe by lot by just watching. >> reporter: fans watched the hall of famer play with the new york yankees for an astounding 17 seasons, winning 10 world series championships. born in st. louis in 1925, he left school after the eighth grade to work and follow his dream. baseball. yogi went on to play in world world series games than any other player. he became famous for his colorful phrases known as
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yogi-isms. >> it and the over until it's over. >> it's deja vu all over again. >> i don't know i say them. it just comes out. >> reporter: he played his last season in 1963 and was inducted into the baseball hall of fame in 1972. yogi berra died at the age of 90 from natural causes leaving behind a lasting legacy an a charm all his own. >> it was fun. if i had to do it over again, i'd do it again. >> yogi berra leaves behind a plethora of records. he owns more rings than anybody ever. not just that, he's also going to be remembered for his service. he served in the navy during world war ii, providing air cover for the men and women invading normandy. >> he was an original. >> yes, he was. >> all those savings will love on. >> in our lexicolexicon, too. ben carson trying to clarify his previous clarification. was he misinterpreted? we'll discuss it, ahead.
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i also want to apologize to you because i've said a few things about you over the years that are, you know, in polite company, perhaps are unforgivable. i hope you accept my apology. >> accepted. >> is there anybody you'd like to apologize to right now yourself? >> no. >> donald trump has no apologies on the late show last night. especially not to president obama. and trump refused to answer a question about whether he thinks the president is really american. joining us now to discuss this entire appearance is columnist for the daily beast, patricia murphy and political reporter for "the washington post" ed o'keefe. great to have both of you with us today. let's play that moment when stephen colbert asked donald trump if he still believes the president was not born in the united states. listen to this. >> this is the last time you ever have to address this question if you hit the ball. >> go ahead. >> there's like sauce all over
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my hands, this meatball is so big. >> i want to hear this one. >> barack obama, born in the united states? >> let me just -- >> was he? it's a meatball. >> i know. >> it's hanging out there. just right there. come on. >> you want to know, i don't talk about it anymore. >> patricia, he says i don't talk about it anymore. what happened to i'm not beginning to be politically correct? i'm going to call it like i see it, i'm going to say how i really feel? >> listen, i think this was a smart way for trump to handle this because we know that not only did he talk about it, he actually paid his own private investigators to go on the hunt for the president's birth certificate. >> why not own it? why isn't he owning it now? >> because it sounds crazy and it is crazy. i think he's trying to broaden his appeal. we've seen him start to tone his message down just a little bit, if only not to get drawn into a
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lengthy debate about how crazy he used to be. this is a good sign. you could hear it from his tone last night, he wants to be president. he thinks he can be president and i think we're starting to see him back it up a little bit in terms of how outrageous he's willing to be in order to be taken seriously, not just in the republican primary but further down the road. >> ed, is trump turning done the crazy? >> it seems like it. when you spend time with stephen colbert and scott pelley on "60 minutes," it's certainly a change in strategy. for one thing he's showing up in person, he's not phoning it in, literally. he's sitting for interviews for people who may not be his biggest fans. >> ed, did that answer satisfy them? the people who are on the fence about trump, saying trump saying i'm not going to talk about my birther theories anymore, is that satisfying? >> probably not.
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i hear he was on a late night talk show discussing these issues, not necessarily on this one or a more serious program. i think it's pretty well established what donald trump thinks about the president's lineage. >> yes. let's talk about ben carson. he has spent the past 24 hours trying to clarify when he said no muslim could be president of the united states and islam is inconsistent with the constitution. here's what he said yesterday. >> do you believe islam is extent with the constitution? >> no, i don't. i do not. i would not advocate that we put a muslim in charge of this nation. i absolutely would not agree with that. i said that anybody who embraces our american values, and our constitution is somebody who is acceptable to me. of course if they don't, i don't want them to be the president of the united states.
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>> okay. patricia, what you heard there were his original comments on "meet the press" where he said islam was inconsistent and yesterday where he said that's not what i said, i men the that anybody can be president as long as they vow to support the constitution. that's not what he originally said. what do you think of him trying to clean this up now? >> it's absolutely not what he said. it's actually the total opposite of what he said before. but the criticism came not just from the media of ben carson, it came from the other candidates of ben carson. ted cruz came out and said i think ben carson is wrong, carly fiorina, i think ben carson is wrong on this. there's a play he can make when the media criticizes him for something he can say, it's the pc police. when you're to the right of ted cruz on a question of constitutionalism about whether there's a religious test to be president, i think he knew that he needed to back those comments up very, very quickly. i do think, this shows his inexperience. this is somebody who is very
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green in interviews like this. this is when it starts to really matter, when you really start to put your foot on it and that's exactly what ben carson did. >> quickly, your thoughts? >> you know who was having problems like this a month ago? scott walker. look where he is now. the scrutiny that becomes with being a national presidential candidate is intense. there's an old yogi berra express that applies, i never said half the things i really said. >> there you go. the perfect way to wrap it up, patricia murphy, ed o'keefe, thanks so much. great to see you. what's your take? tweet us #newdaycnn or post your commends on facebook.com/newday. donald trump will join us live on "new day" tomorrow morning. you don't want to miss that when we put all of those questions to him. let's go out to chris. we keep using the word history. no question this is an historic trip. the fact that it's pope francis's first one is the least of the reasons.
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he could completely change the dialogue we're having with politics and inclusion. so what are the potential surprises? that have politicians on both sides of the aisle nervous? we're going to tell you when "new day" continues.
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very exciting. the pope is going to be speaking right behind thus morning. washington is really pretty occupied with what's going to happen tomorrow, within the pope will be the first pope ever to address congress. politicians on the right are nervous about global warming. and some social issues but there's also a democrat who's boycotted the rest and members of the left may have reasons to worry as well. let's have congressman ben ray luj lujan, a member of the congressional hispanic caucus attending today's sayre mond--
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ceremony. >> what does it mean to have this pope here and from a political perspective how could it play to advantage? >> i think for me personally, the pride that i carry is the pride that so many people across this country carry. my mom's with me here today like many moms across the country. my dad sadly passed away a few years ago. it was always a dream for my mom and dad to visit the vatican, seeing the pope. growing up with a picture of president kennedy and the pope on the wall. the pope calling for us to find the greater good within us, challenge us to make a difference every day. asking us if we've made that difference. i hope this is to bring the congress together, to find the greater good in every one of us. >> the puerto rican part of the cuomo clan doesn't even call the pope el papa, they call him el
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primaro. the mandate is clear, that's going to play as a challenge to the left every bit as much as the right. so how do you deal with that? >> i think the message is welcome, chris. we want the pope to challenge us. we should all be looking for that reflection within. also in our responsibilities as members of congress to best represent our communities. we can always do more. the more the pope can challenge us, the better off we are not only as say congress but a country to be able to help the least amongst us. >> what do you think of the gop bubbling up saying he better sticks to matters of faith. if he talks about politics, he's as open to scrutiny as anybody else. that's not the job of a pope. are you surprised there's that potential aggression coming out even before we know what he says. >> whatever the message of what pope francis shares with us, it may make some members
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comfortable, some uncomfortable, but it's a learning experience. we should treat him with respect and dignity that he deserves and commands. i'm hopeful that whatever the pope challenges us with, we're able to learn from it, listen to him and god willing put things into practice. >> it was interesting to hear from them down in cuba saying the way we see the situation with immigration in your country, we blame the democrats as much as the republicans. they've had eight years. obama got into office, president obama saying he was going to change something. nothing has change. how much of the onus do you put on yourself? >> we all have the job to get the job done. there's nothing we can do as democrats when people come to the floor. maybe house republicans will listen today. the votes are there. if only a bill would come to the floor, i believe in my heart of hearts, the numbers show it, democrats will pass the bill in conjunction with our brothers and sisters of the republican party to do what's right for the
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country and pass immigration reform. >> immigration maybe the pope will take to your advantage. what about planned parenthood, respecting the lives of the unborn? that will play to the disadvantage of many on the left. how do you deal with that? >> again, i have my faith and my faith is important to me. that decision belongs to a woman, her god and her doctor. >> that's not what the pope says. >> we'll hear all kinds of important messages from the pope today. again, today i think is to hear the grander message. he'll ask all of us to reflect and look within, again, help those amongst us that need the most assistance. >> how do you get mama to be with the pope? that's the big question. >> mom's been lighting votive candles and praying. we're just here today. i think here with all the people that have come from all over the country to be with pope francis, we're happy with this opportunity. >> that works as a political answer. that's not going to work with mama. you better be working those connections to get her close, at least a handshake.
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>> thank for being here, covering this. this incredible, to feel this energy is incredible. >> enjoy it. hope it has a positive effect on everybody for the right reasons. >> thank you. mick, over to you. it's infectious. we can feel it from here. back to you in a moment. here we go again, donald trump taking aim at fox news anchor megyn kelly again. calling her highly overrated and a light weight. why is the republican front-runner reigniting this feud with fox? we'll take a look at this. we live in a world of mobile technology, but it is not the device that is mobile, it is you. real madrid have about 450 million fans. we're trying to give them all the feeling of being at the stadium. the microsoft cloud gives us the scalability to communicate exactly the content that people want to see. it will help people connect to their passion of living real madrid.
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in about two hours time, pope francis will be welcomed to the white house before he and president obama speak directly to the american people. the pope is expected to make even more history tomorrow. he'll become the first ever pontiff to address a joint meeting of congress. when asked with his politics, he told reporters he doesn't lean left or right but simply follows the social doctrine of the church. questions about muslim-americans still swirling around the top republican candidates. dr. ben carson reversing position, insisting now he could support a muslim candidate for president if that candidate puts
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the constitution above their religion. and donald trump refusing to apologize for not correcting a supporter who went on an anti-muslim tirade. when stevphen colbert asked him where the president was born last night, trump refused to answer. the ceo of turing pharmaceuticals agreeing to lower the cost of a drug that treats infects in hiv and cancer patients. he backed down after criticism. he hiked the price of daraprim more than 5,000% from 13.50 to $750 a tablet from one day to the next after buying the drug in august. he said he will lower the price to make it more affordable while still allowing the company to make a profit, however, there's no word yet on what that new price will be. what was he thinking? meanwhile, let's talk sports. >> i love it. >> if you like scoring girls,
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this next highlight is for you. >> good morning, guys. it's not often we get german soccer highlights in the bleacher report but byron levi score. he scores five goals and he did it in under nine minutes. it's the fastest anyone has scored five goals in bundesliga history. byron beat wolfburg by the final of 5-1. the battle for the a.l. east between the yankees and blue jays, bottom nine, yankees up by one when navarro takes andrew miller deep to i too the game. he would go the extra innings. in the tenth, two on for greg bird and he's going to go yard. this is the third straight game. he's hit a home run. the yankees win 6-4, they trail the blue jays by 2 1/2 games with 12 to go.
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michaela, no reason to panic for yankees fans. they have a stronghold on one of those spots. >> back to that soccer player. it's a great metaphor for life. >> score lots in nine minutes. >> efficient. >> so much for that truce between donald trump and fox news. the gop front-runner targeting once again anchor megyn kelly on twitter. what is his gripe now? we'll take a look. and when you bundle your home and auto insurance through progressive, you'll save a bundle! [ laughs ] jamie. right. make a bad bundle joke, a buck goes in the jar. i guess that's just how the cookie bundles. now, you're gonna have two bundles of joy! i'm not pregnant. i'm gonna go. [ tapping, cash register dings ] there you go. [ buzzing ] bundle bee coming! it was worth it!
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donald trump's relationship with fox news appears to be on the rocks again. trump took to twitter to criticize bill o'reilly. in fact the whole network thinks he was treated unfairly. social media and tv have been a
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boone to trump's campaign and probably vice versa. why has he reignited this battle? let's bring in brian stelter. bill carter is here, cnn contributor and author of the war for late night. i'm going to do this to save us energy. i'm going run through the twitter storm that he essentially unleashed this monday. do you ever notice lightweight megyn kelly constantly goes after me, when i hit back it's totally sexist. she is highly overrated. followed up with i think megyn kelly should take another 11-day unscheduled vacation. then he goes to o'reilly. why don't you have knowledgeable talking heads on your show for a change instead of the same old trump haters and the peace deresistance, i'm having a hard
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time watching @foxnews. >> he's kind of like a reflex. you hit him and he hits back. automatically comes back. i worked for him before. he went after fox before. remembered? it kind of worked. it looks like it's a go-to tactic for him now. i'm having trouble, they're talking about carly fiorina. >> right, right. >> is the timing curious, though? >> because he seems to have lost a little bit of momentum. that's why he's firing back right now. >> that's maybe what we're seeing. it's interesting because it seems if you just look at it from a 30,000-foot level, it's a bit leak a dysfunctional relationship we've seen and witnessed. these two entities need each other. >> there's a mutually beneficial relationship. we're seeing the divide within the conservative movement is playing out on television as well. trump and fox should be allies. they should be -- in the past they would have been seen as
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mutually beneficial. in this case, it's more complicated. >> you know there's something going on at fox they're uncomfortable with him as the front-runner. they don't like it. it's probably not great for the brand or republican future maybe if he's the candidate. i think they would prefer -- >> if you believe rager ailes, the head of fox news wants a republican in power, in office, donald trump might nobody be the ticket. >> i think that's the concern. >> the executive suite has been managing this thus far. >> for two weeks they blacked him out. they had no trump interviews on the network for two weeks. >> the trump campaign says we didn't have time for the interviews. by the way, trump is important to them. he drives ratings like he drives ratings for everybody else. the guy is not letting up. he's a master at getting attention. let's face it. he's all over the place. he was on with colbert last night. that was an effective appearance for him. he was lighthearted, didn't look crazy. if fox doesn't put him on, he
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moves somewhere else. >> he knows ho you to work the media. that's what everybody says, even the people critical of him, he knows how to use effectively media of all sorts. it's no the just tv and this network but social media as well. >> he's doing "60 minutes" this weekend. he did a twitter chat a couple days ago. there's something honest i really appreciate about what he does when he fires back on social media. here's what i mean. some a-list celebrity, some tv news anchor saying i don't read the press about me. no. donald trump is sitting there, watching fox and live tweeting fox. there's something i respect about that. maybe it is a detriment to him in the long run. >> he seems to have a lot of time on his hands. >> he does. >> he's paying so much attention to everything being said about him. you would think at this point he might back off a little bit. people are saying you don't know enough about policy. this is his thing, hissen brad. he's out there with everybody. >> do you think this strategy and this tactic can last?
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is this a long game kind of approach to have? >> it's dangerous. >> especially as you get closer to the nomination period. >> you can't stay in the spotlight all the time. >> oversaturation. >> you're oversaturating. >> i see him doing things like the colbert thing and fallon and going on "60 minutes." i think, boy, the guy is playing his cards very effectively. >> all right. well, bill, brian, i feel like we'll have a chance to talk about this in coming days, months. maybe even years. we're following a whole lot of news this morning. let's get right to it. pope francis will become the third pontiff to visit the white house. >> the pope is traveling not as a politician but as a pastor. >> a cast of thousands, tens of thousands behind the scenes to keep this pope safe. >> the implied threat is significant. >> each one of these buildings, someone from the service is going to visit. >> i don't want them to be the president of the united states. >> the problem in this country, muss licks. >> like everything else, you have people where there are
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problems. >> national polls don't matter right now. what really matters is what happens in new hampshire. let's talk about immigration for a second. >> we have to have a wall. in that wall we're going to have a beautiful big, fat door. this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. history is about to be made here at the white house. pope francis will join president obama on the south lawn. people have been getting here for over an hour now, waving flags, the vatican flag and the u.s. flag. the big question is, when the holy father speaks, what will the message be? he's an immigrant himself. he's from latin america himself. what will he say about immigration? certainly close to his heart. how will he use this worldwide
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audience? who will is please, diz police? who will it please, displease? >> securing a pope and a president, no small task. >> no question. this is a trip of firsts. the pope's first visit to the u.s. not just as a pope but ever in his life. the first time a world leader has been greeted not just by the president but by the vice president as well. but also later this morning, that first address directly to the american people by the pope. we know this is a pope who communicates with gestures. we saw that yesterday as he rode from andrews air force base in that tiny compact car, speaks to his personal. but in another gesture when he speaks to the american people, later today, that will be in english, not a language he is comfortable with but a way for him to better connect with the american people.
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for the first time, pope francis is waking up on u.s. soil. marking the beginning of a week-long visit. 15,000 visitors are expected on the white house south lawn to witness day two of the pope's visit. pope francis and president obama will speak to the world, then obama will present pope francis with a customary gift and hold a one-on-one meeting with only translators present. it remains unknown what the two leaders will likely discuss. >> with two men of this caliber who share ideals and who share values about human decency, respect for human differences, i think that it's going to be a really, really positive visit. >> reporter: the moment the pontiff touched down in washington tuesday afternoon, he made history. >> so glad you're in the united states. >> reporter: never before had a sitting american president and vice president and their
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families welcomed a foreign leader. the people's pope leaving andrews air force base not in a limo or popemobile but in a relatively inexpensive and compact italian-made fiat. it's a historic visit requiring an equally historic amount of security. >> we planned for the worst or the unexpected. >> reporter: the secret service and fbi coordinating one of the largest security operations ever. deeming the sometimes unpredictable pope's stay a national security special event. >> with this pope he could get out anywhere. you have to resource allocate all of those special weapons teams and people in the crowd, really everywhere along the route. >> reporter: when the pope leave the white house later this morning for st. matthew's cathedral to meet with bishops and on to catholic university, we'll see his first ride in the pope mobile here in the u.s., that parade route will be lined with thousands, tens of
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thousands of people. we heard this morning many people camped out overnight to get their positions. they want to see it first, chris. you can imagine that moment for them. also, another security challenge because this is a pope who likes to not just move through those crowds but connect with those crowds. it's going to be a real challenge but no one wants to stand in the way of this pope's chance to connect with all those fans with the american people. it's going to be incredible to watch, chris. >> absolutely. witnesses to history, no question about it. you know, the word inside the vatican is they feel the difference between the u.s. and cuba in terms of security. and they are saying they feel confident that nobody will be able to run up to the pope mobile like they did when the pope was entering revolution square. it's interesting, we keep talking about how the pope will influence america. how about america's influence on the pope? he's in a jeep wrangler. let me show you the scene here this morning. it's a beautiful morning. the sun is coming up over the old executive office, we have the south portico, the stage is set. they have people who came in an hour ago, rushing up to the line, thousands who want to be
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able to see the pope, even in this controlled audience. they're waving their vatican flag and their american flag. the question is, how will those two meet in the suits of power between the pope and the president? here's one thing we know, michelle kosinski, is that what this pope says in public is often different than what he says in private, at least with world leaders. we know that was the case in cuba. what will happen when he meets with the president in private this morning? >> reporter: right, absolutely. so many questions surrounding that. what exactly will go on in that room between the two leaders? it will be just the two of them in the oval office. they'll be talking for 45 minutes to an hour, only translators with them, if needed. the white house expects this to be in english, they expect it to be a friendly, warm conversation. the topics that they see as the big ones are climate change, poverty and cuba. but what about those areas where there are broad disagreements between the two of them, on
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abargs, on gay marriage or will the pope be irritated that the u.s., for example, is own i taking in an additional 10,000 syrian refugees? where the pope has called worldwide for people to do as much as they can. yes, those are big disagreements but on those hot button issues that might be making headlines, this is the pope and he doesn't always bring them up in a way you might expect or if at all. i think as you mentioned the biggest example of this is down in cuba. if people expected there to be some kind of stinging rebuke of the regime over denying its people basic freedoms and human rights, doesn't seem like that happened, at least not in that private meeting. raul castro walked away happy, telling reporters he might start going to church again, the pope made him want to pray again. look at president obama's last meeting with the pope last year, domestically there was political wrangling going on over the affordable care act. the president later said that it really didn't come up at all in that conversation. the pope doesn't focus on
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domestic issues. he's not interested in politics. that this meeting is going to be about the common ground. chris? >> all right, michelle. we'll be on it, that's for sure. hopefully as it trickles out we'll be able to tell people who is going on between these two men. so what is he going to do this morning? he'll speak here. remember it will be in english. what does that mean in terms of how much he can be spontaneous, which he likes to do? after he leaves here he wants to be with the people. we have cnn's carol costello live at the national mall where folks are gathering already and they have been for a while it get a glimpse of the pope. what is the mood? >> reporter: i cannot even describe the mood. it's joyous. that's as close as i can get, chris. i wish i could take you along the parade route but i can't get out of this press pen because they're keeping us in here. if you can pan off, jay, see the press pen? every time we leave we have to be escorted by a member of the national guard. i did escape for a few minutes
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to talk to a few people. you see the security checkpoints down there. literally hundreds had of people are streaming through the gates right now to take their place along the parade route. these the cheap seats, so to speak. they were unable to get tickets so they had to get her really early. i spoke to a guy who was here at 10:00 last night getting his spot. along the parade route you see a lot of things like this, people in sleeping bags, just completely exhausted because of course the pope won't pass by until around 11:00 this morning. take a look down the street. a lot of people from -- a lot of hispanic people lining the streets. actually it's like a rainbow of people from all different countries. we saw one group of people where there was a guitar player and they were singing religious songs. i did find my man evan chris. you'll be happy to know, the student from american university. he's very excited to see the pope. he says he is a lapsed catholic. when the pope talks about caring for the poor and the most
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vulnerable among us, he said it moves him. it may just move him back to the catholic faith, chris. >> carol costello, you're in a great place to be this morning. and we wish you luck in terms of getting great insights for the audience. there's no question that there is an ecumenical feel, a secular feel, a nonreligious feel to francis's message. we'll see if it resonates and if so, with how many. let's get perspective from the archbishop of miami, thomas wenski. we know that politicians on the right want to hear less about global warming and more about reproductive rights. we know on the left they want to hear more about immigration and less about reproductive rights from the pope. as a catholic, as an archbishop, what are you hoping he hits in terms of themes for the faithful? >> i think he's going to hit a theme of mercy and of compassion
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and in doing so, he will probably make people on the right and the left happy and he'll probably make them also a little bit uncomfortable. even in his cyclical on the environment he spoke about an integral ecology. integral ecology means the natural environment should be protected. the rain forest should be protected for what they do for the health of the earth. also, the human ecology should be protected. marriage as an institution between a man and a woman should protected and promoted because of what it does for human flourishing as well. i think you'll see him making these points but doing it in a very gentle way, a very pastoral way as he said in cuba yesterday, our revolution is a revolution of tenderness. >> in terms of where he's coming from on these issues, on the
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plane he said people are saying i'm a little left. they can say it but it's not right. give us some perspective on correcting this perception. is what he's saying about capitalism, is what he's saying about immigration and religious tolerance, is it all within catholic liturgical orthodoxy or is he going into his own space. >> he's saying things that pope benedict said and john paul ii said. pope benedict spoke about globalization in very strong terms as this holy father is. pope benedict said globalization made us all neighbors but it hasn't made us brothers and s sisters. that's a similar message. back to john paul ii, he's certainly very much in the tradition after john paul ii who
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spoke very forcefully on behalf of the poor, on behalf of religious freedom, and on the behalf of the same issues exclusion, et cetera, that the holy father is emphasizing. i think he does it from a different tone and different approach. >> right. >> they each have their own personal. after all, the pope is catholic. >> that is true. i've heard that. it's not just the message. it's also the messenger and how it's deliver. that's something that distinguishes pope francis. let me ask you something, a division is clear between the gop and democrats. there's also a division at play within your church. and what is that division and what is the risk potential here with pope francis in terms of how he deals with the conservatives and how he deals with those who are more liberal leaning within the catholic church? >> well, i think the pope is going to invite us to stand on commonen ground.
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that common ground that we as catholics stand on is found around the eucharistic table, the altar. as we approach that table to share and the one body and one blood of christ, that is our common ground. that's what unites us. we are invited to follow him and if i dealt with coherency and we do it by bringing our own particular gifts and intentions. there's no conflict between a catholic that wants to advocate on behalf of the poor. there's no conflict between the social justice catholic or a pro-life catholic. we're the same church, the same gospel that we're witnessing to. >> you do have a growing division about those who want to emphasize certain rules an a pope who is emphasizing a certain rationality to mercy and lo of. let me ask you something, in terms of being in miami, what's
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been the response of your cuban faithful population in terms of the pope being in cuba at all and once he was there, his tone and his take? >> i just returned from cuba yesterday. and for the pope's visit, i brought about 300 people to cuba. many of them, cuban-americans, most of them returning to cuba for the first time. and these cuban-americans, after 50 years, 56 years, went back to cuba, he found the experience very healing. they were there very much to embrace the message of the church, the message of the holy father in cuba which is one of reconciliation and mutual tolerance and forgiveness. >> well, it's certain that even for the pope you can't please everybody all the time. and on the issue of cuba, people are so divided. there are generations of perspective on that. it changes as you move along. archbishop, thank you so much. >> the pope doesn't have to
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please everybody. he just has to please the lord. >> well said. well said. archbishop, thank you very much. please enjoy the moments that are come to here. and cnn will have special coverage of the white house sayre money. what's going to happen behind us in a couple hours. pope francis speaking in english. that's a big deal, big deal for him and those who will be listening. tomorrow "new day" will be live at the u.s. capitol. there's another big deal, the first pope to address a joint session of congress, especially with it being this pope, alisyn, you know, is he going to stay safe? is he not? what will he test? what will he not test? it will all be in play and we'll follow it all. >> it will be fascinating to watch, chris. we'll get back to your papal coverage momentarily. first, we have politics to talk about. ben carson and donald trump continuing to try to clarify their comments about muslims. trump not backing down, claiming it's not his job to correct a supporter who went on an anti-obama, anti-muslim rant while carson insists he did not say what he said. let's go live to washington and
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bring in cnn's athena jones. what's the latest? >> reporter: trump is not backing down, not apologizing on any way. on cbs last night he was asked again about that man at his town hall who said the president was a muslim, that america has a muslim problem and who advocated getting rid of muslims. trump said the man's question didn't necessarily mean he was a bigot. take a listen to what else he had to say. >> i don't have to defend president obama. he's not going to defend me. i love the muslims. i have many, many friends. i can say there are no problems with the muslims. there's no terrorism, no anything. they didn't knock down the world trade center. to the best of my knowledge, the people who knocked down the world trade center, they didn't fly back to sweden. >> trump is standing his ground there. a lot of his supporters agree with what he's saying. meanwhile, ben carson who said sunday he wouldn't advocate having a muslim in the white house is now shifting his position. take a listen.
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>> i said that anybody who embraces our american values and our constitution is somebody who is acceptable to me. of course if they don't, i don't want them to be the president of the united states. >> so carson insists he hasn't changed positions here. a lot of people see changing positions as something politicians do. what voters say they like about carson is that he's not a politician. in any case, this issue is not going away anytime soon. we'll have to see if it hurts either candidate in the polls. another person who didn't consider himself a politician, donald trump. thanks so much, athena. he dodged questions about where the president was born. the republican front-runner wouldn't talk about it when "late show" host stephen colbert tried to coerce him. take a look. >> let's talk about immigration for a second.
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i know you believe all illegal immigrants should be deported. true? >> that's true. we have to bring people -- we have a country, we have borders. we don't have a border right now. we'll build a wall, number one. number two -- [ applause ] listen to this, even with your crowd. >> they love the wall. people love the wall. >> we have to have a wall. we have to have a border and in that wall we'll have a beautiful big, fat door where people can -- they come into the country and they come -- listen to me. a beautiful door where people can come into the country but they have to come in legally. 2,000 years ago you have the great wall of china, 13,000 miles long. >> jesus helped build that. >> here we're really talking about -- you're right. you're right. here you're talking about 1,000 miles. you're talking about 1,000 miles. it's certain areas. there's 2,000 but you need it in 1,000 miles. we can have a great and beautiful wall. it will be up, it will stop, we'll have our border and guess what, nobody comes in unless they have their papers.
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>> i'm going to throw you up a big fat meatball for you to hit out of the park right now. >> good. >> this is the last time you ever have to address this question if you hit the ball. >> go ahead. >> there's like sauce all over my hands, this meatball is so big. >> i want to hear this one. >> barack obama, born in the united states? >> let me just -- >> was he? it's a meatball. >> i know. >> it's hanging out there. right there. come on. [ applause ] >> i was ready for this. you want to know, i don't talk about it anymore. >> you talk about it? >> i talk about jobs. i talk about our veterans being horribly treated. i don't discuss that. >> you know that meatball is being dragged down the steps of the subway by a rat. >> i saw that rat. that was not pretty. >> you missed the meatball. you missed the meatball. >> i talk about jobs. i'm talking about vets who are treated like third-class citizens, worse than the illegals. the vets in this country are so mistreated, terribly. i'm talking about the military. those are the things i'm talking about.
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i'm not talking about that. >> that was a big beautiful meatball but he didn't take a bite of it, did he? >> he did not. >> he ignored the meatball. we'll be talking much more about that with our pundits. european union leaders finally holding that emergency summit on the refugee crisis. they are agreeing to help 120,000 migrants but not all countries are on board. romania, the czech republic, slovakia and hungary voted against the plan. the summit also focusing on tightening eu borders and boosting help to neighbors. xi jinping is saying he's willing to work with the u.s. to fight hack attacks, this as the white house prepares to hold vigorous talks on cyber security, trade and human rights issues on thursday. the pentagon says a chinese jet passed in front of the u.s. plane in a move that was deemed unsafe. it's unclear why that maneuver was made.
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he used to be vocal about what he thought was president obama's citizenship. >> i think it's hard to know why he wouldn't answer. i think he's on colbert so he's, you know, measured slightly a little more measured last night. i think he took some of the stuff that colbert threw at him and rather than go after it and make the crazy statements we're used to seeing from him, he was softer with colbert. i think the fact remains, this is not really funny. you know? it is sad, it reflects the sad state of our politics today. and the truth is, on any given day, unless you're a middle aged white guy, someone running for president in the republican party is likely to insult you. >> ben, donald trump hates political correctness. right? that's what he said. why didn't he own it? >> i think this is one of those issues where he realizes that he's pandered maybe a little bit to the extreme of his base and he's afraid if he comes back and looks like he's saying, hey, of
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course he's an american citizen, referring to the president, that people might not like him as much. when you go this far to the extreme as he has done in his campaign, you then put yourself in an awkward situation. because he could have easily answered this question and said, of course he's a citizen. i even looked into his birth certificate. yes, he's an american. let's move on. here's what i'm focused on. i'm focussed on the vets, the v.a. scandal, uhl at things, building the great wall with a beautiful door. for some reason he didn't attack this question head on which is exactly the reason why people liked him so much early on. many still do, obviously. but i think he's getting himself in that awkward corner now where, you know, who is he going to be as a candidate? is he going to play the game a little bit or be this blunt talking guy he claims he is? >> the amazing thing is, ben and i -- there's something for the first time almost ever, there's something ben and i agree on. >> donald trump has somehow brought you two together.
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there's that wow. yes. let's move on to ben carson. because ben carson, it appears, has been all over the map in terms of his whether or not he would ever support a muslim candidate for president. he was just on the fox morning show moments ago and once again, he tried to answer it. this time it sounds like he's saying, again, he would not support a muslim candidate. listen to this. >> i never said that a person could not run for office. i just said i wouldn't support them. do i not have a right to support what i want to support? i want to support what made this nation great and what made us unique. i want to support the things that gave me an opportunity to come from nowhere to rise to a very high position in our society. i want that for the people who are coming after us. >> okay, ben, it sounds like he's sticking to his original thought of he would not support a muslim candidate. is that okay for him to say? >> yes, it is. that's exactly what he should
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do. many people have taken him out of context. when he said his original comment i would not advocate for someone that is a muslim to be in the white house, he did not say as care came out and implied that you should be disqualified from running for office for the presidency if you are muslim. they kept saying the constitution says that you should not have a test on someone's religion. he never advocated for that. he never said that. >> ben, hold on. he did say, i will read it verbatim, chuck todd asked, do you believe islam is consistent with the constitution? islam. not radical islam, not extremist. ben carson says no, i don't, i do not. >> which is his personal belief he's not saying we should pass a law and/or there is a law where a muslim cannot run. he is saying personally i will not support someone who is muslim. it's the same way democrats say
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they're never going to vote for republican. this is normal in politics to have a set of values that you will advocate for and you will not advocate for. >> yes. it's not consistent in politics to rule out millions of people because they follow a particular religion and say they could never be president. but go ahead, richard. i know you wanted in there. >> the point is we're trying to slice this every which way. it's hard to know exactly where he stands. i think he's gone this way a little bit, then he's gone the other way a little bit. the truth is, we should call this for what it is. both mr. carson and mr. trump are pandering to the extreme right wing racist elements in their party. they're intentionally -- >> strongly disagree. >> they're intentionally leaving a little wiggle room so that when they maybe have to run in the general election, they can take some of it back. but right now, the republican -- there is a strong element in the republican party which they're appealing to this anti-immigrant, this
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anti-everybody faction and that's who they're appealing to. >> i'm wrapping you because i know you strongly disagree with that. we do have to talk about hillary clinton. some say she is also pandering to a wing of her party. she now says that she opposes the keystone pipeline. it took her a long time to come around to that position. is this because bernie sanders opposes the keystone pipeline? what took her so long. >> i think she opposes the keystone pipeline because it's a bad idea and many people believe that. i believed that for a long time. i think she's putting the environment first. obviously she's running for president in the democratic primary. >> hold on. a few sections, ben. go ahead. >> hillary clinton is now opposing the keystone pipeline because gas prices are low and it's not as big of a political issue when you're pulling up to the pump and paying 2 bucks a gallon instead of $4 a gallon this was all about the price at the pump for her. it's not a big campaign issue you'll get hit on right now. she's trying to copy bernie sanders on this one.
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mark my words she will not be speaking out vocally about this. come closer to election day, gas prices are $3.50 or $4 a gallon, everyone cares about the keystone pipeline a lot more than they do right now when you're seeing a dollar something on the board. >> there you go. ben ferguson, richard socrates, thank you. let's get out to chris. alisyn, a quick note also. donald trump is in the crosshairs of the campaign once again. he'll be on "new day" tomorrow. you get to put the questions to him. we are here on the south lawn. there's a much bigger moment than simple politics going on. about 15,000 expected. many have been here for hours in anticipation for the man, the moment and the message. what will he say to america in english? and will podus get a different message in private? the flags are being waved, the vatican and the u.s. being brought together this morning. stay with us. people don't have to think about
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what a scene this morning. the south lawn of the white
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house, the setting for history. not just because it is pope francis first trip but what this man may bring as a message. we're looking at the podium, the choir has been rehearsing. 15,000 expected to be in atte attendance. i just saw my niece. she's much closer to the activity than i am. everyone here is excited whether or not they are religious or not. thiscy amoment here in the american experience that we're going to have. here's what we know. in about an hour, the pope is going to speak. he's going to speak in english. that's very unusual. it will give us unusual access to where his heart and head are. after that, there's going to be a 45-minute private meeting with the pope and potus. what are they going to talk about? you'll have global warming on the table, relations with cuba on the table, you'll have this atmosphere of inclusiveness that's needed, whether that means refugees or religious rites here in the country.
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let's go to melissa rogers. understatement, you're excited this morning? >> very excited. we are so glad that this day has finally come, that we've been planning for for so long. it's a wonderful moment for us to be able to welcome pope francis and to look forward to the conversation and the speeches that will happen today. >> let's deal with the practicality. you have the ruler of china in the country right now. when you have the pope and the potus, you have a security situation that you really have to lock down. how different are today's preparations? >> well, of course we wanted to be very careful about that. i'm not the expert in security. >> right. i know you've been briefed. >> we've all wanted to be very careful and mindful of that while also respecting the pope's interest in being engaged with people. >> so what do you do in terms of when this man comes? he's representing the catholic church. he's not a politician. though every pope strays into the political. this one is that and then some. how do you deal with someone who is not a political equal but may
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be given a political message? >> as you mentioned, this is very different than your normal state visit. the pope transcends politics. and his message is, you know, his message that comes from his faith. and as you said, sometimes that intersects with public issues. he's been very eloquent about so many issues, many of them that you mentioned and more. we just welcome his leadership and his voice. >> now, everyone is talking about how the gop will feel, how the democrats are going to feel. within the catholic church, this is really it in terms of how you deal with faith-based organizations. they have their own division going on. what have you heard in terms of what different parts of his own church want out of the situation? >> you know, if it's from across the church, enthusiasm for the pope coming, wanting to lift up various of his messages. when he put out his encyclical on climate change, it's been a uniting moment. >> what do you see in terms of
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unity and disunity among the christian faiths? if you go by denomination, catholic still number one. if you go by identification, you have evangelical protestants are the biggest pop laying in the country. how much are them embracing of this coach and how many are pushing back? >> we have a number of evangelicals here today, leaders of evangelical groups. i haven't heard anybody say they're not excited about this visit, whether they are evangelical, whether they are muslim, buddhist, hindu, nonreligious, everybody is excited and wants to welcome the pope. >> that's interesting. we're dealing with a moment where people of just about any faith will be on the same page with the big issues. is it safe to say win know you can't give anything away, melissa, although you know it's my job to try and get you to, that climate change will be big for the pope, that religious inclusiveness, that can mean a loll of different things will be big and immigration is going to
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be big? >> i can't speak for what the holy father will say but those issues have been ones that he's spoken to very powerfully and so it wouldn't be surprising to hear him speak to those issues again during his visit to the united states. >> how do you prepare the president of the united states to deal with the pope if the pope is saying things he doesn't like? when they get together in that meeting and he says, i have to tell you about this planned parenthood thing, here's what i don't like about it. how do you brief the president differently. >> the pope met with the president at the vatican. they've already had a discussion. they're continuing that discussion today. we know there will be areas of difference but there are areas of roo respectful difference. the president is great about listening to different points of view and being responsive to concerns and trying to find common ground wherever possible. in addition to trying to find ways to work together where there's already agreement. >> can you tell us what the president will give the pope? >> i cannot. it would not be a surprise if i
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did that. >> i won't tell him. >> melissa rogers, thank you. appreciate the insight. let's go back to you guys in new york. this will be a big, big moment here, mick. so many people are here. the audience for this pope is way beyond who's here today. literally the world will be listening and he'll be speaking in english. >> i cannot wait for that and i cannot wait to see what the gift is. we'll have to tweet some of our thoughts. >> nice try. to a story dominating your social media feed. the ceo of a drug company agreeing to reduce the price of a pill after facing allegations of price gouging. hillary clinton rolling out a plan that targets companies preying on patients. we'll take a look at that, ahead. is to visualize them. then, let the principal help you get there. join us as we celebrate eddie's retirement, and start planning your own.
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the ceo of a drug company who had vastly inflated the price of a pill that treats infects in-and cancer patient has agreed to lower the price of that pill. this is democratic candidate hillary clinton lays out her plan, targeting drug kms that nickel and dime people for their own profit. want to bring in ranu foroohar. interesting to see all of this happening. it dominated social media feeds. people outraged. the backlash this ceo received after jacking up the price from $13.50 a pill to $750. he says he took the actions based on public outrage. although do you think that the
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outrage coupled with hillary clinton's plan and the attention she's shining on this issue likely are what forced him into the corner? >> i think so. i think this is i agreat issue for her to take on. we've all dealt with high prices in the health care system. if you look at what pushes americans in poverty, a third of that are a health care emergency. france, the uk, canada, governments negotiate on behalf of the population with pharmaceutical companies. we pay about 50% more across board for all kinds of drugs than others do. that's due in part to the lobbying by the pharmaceutical industry. michaela, already this year, $124 million has been pumped into washington on the part of big pharma. it's usually double that. >> 90% of all seniors use some sort of prescription drug, half of all americans do. it's a $32.9 billion industry. let's look at the plan to see what hillary clinton has come up
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with, this is just in part, require drugmakers to re-invest taxpayer dollar into research. there's a $250 monthly cap. it will also enable medicare to negotiate prices and also allow consumers to shop abroad. you think this plan is goingo help american families? >> i do. i think the research point is very important. when you talk about prices being so high, pharmaceutical companies will often justify that by saying we have to do research. this is expensive. we have to come up with innovations. if you look at what's going on in big pharma, money is not going into research. >> it's going into marketing. >> it's going into marketing. >> they are spending more in marketing than r & d. >> it's being handed back to shareholders. that's something else hillary has taken on, too. they are acting like big portfolio companies. >> what about this idea that people will shop for prescription companies? we've seen that happen with
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people getting their drugs from canada over the years. >> i think that can help in a limited way but i think what we need is a complete overhaul, frankly, of how research gets done in this country. the other thing we forget is early stage research is done by the federal government. funds have been cut for that over the years. the nih has much less than they used to. pharmaceutical companies are not putting that research in. venture capital is going down. you have to invest. >> the money has to go to the right places. that's the other thing. >> that's right. >> if you look at the annual profits at some of the biggest drug companies, over $80 billion a year. if you let that sink in for a second, it's -- i mean, we know we're in a capitalist society but that's troubling to so many people, especially when you list all the factors that you gave us a moment ago. is that just a result of bad actors like this character from the turing pharma company that jacked up the price of his drug? is it because of people like that or is there money going on -- tell us how the money is shaking out here.
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>> i think we have a systemic problem in our overall health care system in america. i lived in europe. i saw what national health care can be like when it's done well. yes, there are bad actors but across the board, it's not just one hedge fund guy jacking up a price. the entire pharmaceutical industry model doesn't work anymore in part frankly because the fact we've decoded a human g genome, there are a lot more possibilities. >> we'll see what happens when hillary clinton takes this on. always a pleasure. donald trump stopping by deceiven e en -- stephen colbe playing a little game of who said that. it will brighten your morning or at least tickle your fancy. ya know what he becomes? great proposal! let's talk more over golf. great. how about over tennis? even better. a game changer! the ready for you alert, only at lq.com.
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them. >> okay. >> here is the first one. we got obama in there now and the chinese testing him, bing bing bing. you get a woman in there, bing boom boom, the whole world goes after her. me or you. >> that's you. >> that is me. that is actually me. okay. i apologize for being perfect. >> that would be you because i would never say a thing like that. is that you? >> that is me. that's very good. i think apologizing a is great thing but you have to be wrong. i will absolutely apologize some time in the distant future hopefully if i'm ever wrong. >> that is me. >> you know you really well. >> i know. >> it is freezing and snowing in new york. we need global warming. >> well i think it's you. but it is close to being me. i think so. >> my favorite thing is when he says you know you very well. >> donald trump seemed to be
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really enjoying that. he was seniling. th -- smiling. >> steven colbert. so smart. so in the know. it was a great job. okay. e let's go out to chris. >> the bing bang boom almost made me choke on the cliff bar i'm choking down here. almost got me. make maybe a little divine intersection on my behalf. we're less than an hour away. what is the pope going to say to the american people? here's one thing. he'll be speaking in english. we have some insight into what his message will be, what it won't be. and what he'll want to discuss with p.o.t.u.s. alone. to clean the oceans, to start a movement, or lead a country. it may not be obvious yet,
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watch. >> i don't care what a person's religious believe beliefs are. >> he's not going to defend me. >> i'm not going to say outrageous things or make promises i can't keep to win. >> is there anybody you would like to apologize to right now, yourself? >> no. >> no? >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo, allsyn camerota and michaela pereira. >> coming to you from the south lawn and you don't get many days like this. history is about to be made between president obama and pope francis. the holy father is going to speak to the american people in english. his first time on american soil but this is about much more than that. what will he speak about?
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there are so many big issues going on in american culture and political culture right now. immigration, the environment. tolerance of religion and of differences in general. this is a latin american pope, the first one an immigrant himself. what will he say and how will it be received? we have comprehensive team coverage of the man, the moment and his message. beginning with national security correspondent on the north lawn of the white house. i know you have been working your sources protecting a pope and a p.o.t.u.s. >> i drove by the pope's residence here where the pope's ambassador lives here in washington. the streets closed off. incredible security. 9:00 he a i arrives here there will be an official greeting ceremony of the gift from the president to the pope. and then the speeches by the president and the pope. and as you have referenced chris, the pope is going to dive right into hot button political issues here.
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immigration, religious freedom and climate change. he's a deft politician. he knows the sensitivities. he will do it carefully. but when you are talking about those topics rur it in the middle of the debate here. particularly in the midst of the presidential race for 2016. following those speeches delivered by the pope in english, offer the bilateral meeting a private meeting between pope francis and president obama. just the two of them and translators present. and in that meeting we're told that the president is going talk to him about again climate change, an issue they have many shared interests and positions on. cuba, another shared interest. the pope playing that key role in the diplomacy there. and in addition as well poverty. a very important issue to this pope. he's talking about redirecting our energies to helping poor people. and one that, listen, he -- particularly when he speaks to congress is not going to pull his punches about america and and america's role in allevia
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alleviating poverty. and then from there to st. matthew's kathy dra and meet with bishops and then to the catholic basilica and among other things will canonize. but this is america. everything you do here is a hot button issue. even that canonization opposed by some native americans. than a deft political issue but all the ones he's talk about there is no question the u.s. feels very strongly about. >> he's entering the crucible. one key is protection. but there are so many aspects of this that play to history. joining us is the senator bernie sanders, as we all know democratic candidate for president. this is another aspect that makes the timing of the pope coming so relevant what we see in our political culture. what's going on around the world. even within the jewish religious calendar. this is a period of atonement.
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of change. what do you hope to hear from the pope today? >> i think what the pope has done, which is really extraordinary chris. he's reaching out not just to the catholic church. he's reaching out to people all over the world and with an incredibly strong message of the social justice, of talking about the grotesque levels of the wealth income inequality that exist all over the world. the elderly living alone. the young people who can't find jobs. and he's saying as the planet, as a people we have got to do better. that money, the accumulation of money and the worship of money is not what life should be about. we cannot turn our backs on our fellow human beings. >> it is almost as the he is hashtag feeling the burn. because many of those things go with your campaign. are you surprised of the pope? >> no i'm note surprised.
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because he has a very very progressive agenda. he is looking in the eyes of the wealthiest people in this country, who make billions of dollars. and he is saying you know what? you cannot continue to ignore the needs of the poor. you cannot continue to ignore the needs of the sick. and he is also saying the trickle down economic theory, he's very specific about that, really doesn't work. that government itself is obliged to protect those who are vulnerable and that is a message i have to be honest many of our republican colleagues do not want to hear. >> at the same time he balances it by saying there is sins in excess of the populism as well. and people who he's talking to will look back and say with all due respect the american form of capitalism has raised more people than many other so it societies, probably all combined and we are a big reason for global success and not just global division. >> the yes and no. in the midst of all of that
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success we have more people in poverty today than any time in history and the gap is growing wider. and it is not just an american issue. very shortly the top 1% of the world's population will own more wealth than the bottom 99%. and he is also by the way talking very profoundly and significantly about climate change. and he's talking about as a religious person. this is god's earth. you cannot destroy it. and we have to be aggressive in transforming our energy system. >> the push back is obviously, we don't believe it. i get that it works for you. and nobody wants to ruin things. but when you say fix the environment to us it means more federal intrusion, more taxes more money to thing that may not matter. >> that is the push back from the koch brothers and exxon mobile and the fossil fuel industry. but that is his courage. he doesn't have do this. he could play it easier but he is saying the planet is at stake. fossil fuel is contributing significantly to climate change.
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we have got to address it. that's what i admire about him. audacity and his courage. >> the campaign is taking a turn right now. ben carson started it off. but what he did not unlooix donald trump, dr. ben carson arguably now giving a face and a voice to intolerance which is anti muslim. he's backing up now he's saying i didn't say they can't run. >> as soon as he made that statement we said that this was just very wrong. look -- look, your family knows this very well. how long was it did it take us to elect a catholic to be poft united states. and people said my goodness. we don't want a catholic. he's going to be working for the pope. right? and how long did it take to elect a african american to be
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president of the united states. we should elect on views and abilities and not on the color of their skin. not on religion. that is what america is supposed to be about. and i was disappointed in dr. carson's statement. >> there's been a undertone of it but not as obvious as i thought. is there an irony in an african american man saying that about muslims because is he painting all of them with the same brush? what he's saying is no no no i'm only talking about islam and the extreme. that was 911 and the rest around the world. it is fair to criticize the extreme. >> of course it is. but i'm not sure that was his what his initial statement was. obviously we're all concerned about people who want to hurt the united states and al qaeda and isis but to paint that of all muslims is incorrect and wrong. >> how do you balance that with the legitimate concerns are? that there is no coincidence between the extreme islam and the threat to american homeland.
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>> we should target and do everything we can to protect this country against extreme muslims and al qaeda. but don't just say because they are muslims that all muslims want to blow up the united states of america. that is not right. >> and how about the insinuation that all muslims follow sharia law. >> i don't think so that's true. there are -- >> do you think dr. ben carson knows that and is saying it anyway? >> i'll let him speak for himself. >> that's why i'm asking you. it is not going so well. and then you have donald trump goes on colbert. and he's going i'm not going to talk about whether president obama was born here or not. >> let's end this nonsense. this country faces enormous problems. middle class is collapsing. massive income equality. and poverty. and we have to deal with fact
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that billionaires are buying this country. those are issues we have to talk about. to still be arguing this nonsense about whether obama was born in america is totally crazy. and it only appeals to very base instincts among a section of the republican party. end it. we got real issues to talked about. >> very often when people are complementary of your campaign, they say senator sanders won't go critical on people. do you think that is one of the things that donald trump would have to change to be a will more legitimate candidate? >> i don't think it's presidential. and i don't think it's presidential to be attacking all of your opponents and being very nasty and petty. i don't think we want a president who is just bad mouthing everybody. it seems like there is almost nobody in the world this guy doesn't like. so i don't think -- >> all right. let me give you the biggest push back on you right now.
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campaign is going well. you are surprising a lot of people. is this. help me. i am the wealthy voter. i'm the person who feels they work for everything that they have. and that you bernie sanders with a good heart want to take away as much as you can from me. you want to punish me for my success. you want to redistribute my wealth to people who simply haven't worked as hard as me. make me feel that you are not my enemy. >> two responses. number one there has been massive redistribution of wealth in this country in the last 30 years. it's going from the middle class to the to the top one tenth of one percent. >> but they pay the most taxes overwhelmingly. so they say we are giving our fair share. >> when you have the incredible inequalities we have in america. top 1/10 of one percent owns almost as much as the bottom 99%. we have a enormous needs.
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>> can you fix without hurting me? >> depends on your income. if you are extremely wealthy, yes you are going to pay more in taxes. if you are a large corporation today by the way stashing your money in the cayman islands and not paying a the nickel, yes you are going to be paying taxes. >> senator sanders. thank you very much. are you going to win? >> i think we got a shot. >> a shot. >> better be more confident than that. enjoy the day. and thank you for being was. >> thank you. >> i feel confident that you will indeed. thank you very much. great conversation with mr. sanders there. >> and we'll be covering everything here as you me the. a big speech in less than hour and of course tomorrow "new day" is going to be there for the pope's -- the first ever to address a joint session of congress. and remember these speeches he's giving today and tomorrow, in english. >> donald trump had a golden opportunity to set the record straight on so called birther
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welcome back to "new day." so donald trump was on stephen colbert east late show last night in case you happened to be sleeps here is all the stuff you missed. >> let's talk about immigration for just a second. >> okay. >> okay. i know that you believe that illegal immigrants should all be
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deported. true? >> that's true. we have to bring people -- look, we have a country. we have borders. we have no border right now. we don't have a country. we have to create. number one we're going to build a wall. oh listen to this. even with your crowd i love it. >> people love the wall. >> we have to have a wall. we have to have a border. and in that wall we're going to have a beautiful big fat door where people can come into the country [ laughter ] -- now listen to this. a beautiful door where people can come into the country but they have to come in legally. 2,000 years ago, the great wall of china. 13,000 miles long. >> jesus helped build that. >> you're right. but here we're talking about a thousand miles. there is two thousand but you need it in a thousand miles. we can have a great and beautiful wall. it will be up. people will stop. nobody comes in unless they have
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their papers. >> i'm going to throw you up a big fat meat ball for you to hit out of park right now. this is the last time you ever have to address this question if you hit the ball. bill ole -- there's sauce all over my hands. >> i want to hear this one. >> barack obama, born in the united states. was he? it's a meat ball. it's hanging right there. >> i don't talk about it anymore. >> people being dragged down the steps of a subway by a rat right now. >> i saw that rat. that was not pretty. >> you missed the meat ball. >> i talk about jobs. i'm talking about the vets who are treated like third class citizens. treated worse than the illegals. the vets of this country are so mistreated terribly.
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i'm talking about the military, building it up. i'm not talking about that. >> so much to dissect. joining us is jeffrey lord. what an appearance last night. but let's just start right there with that moment. why wouldn't he answer the question whether or not he still believes that president obama was not born in the united states? >> you know allsyn. he's sort of damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. he talked about it and everybody used too say move on. and now he's off the subject and everybody is why don't you go back to the subject. everybody said don't talk about it anymore so he's not talking about it anymore. >> donald trump rales against political correctness, i guess is the issue. he speaks his mind he says. >> he said whatever he said. it is all out there on the record and he's moved on. on we go. the criticism is well he doesn't talk issues so there he is
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sitting there with steven colbert of all people talking about veterans, about the wall. this issue and that issue. that is what people want and that is what he's doing. >> jeffrey, dooubl barack obama was born in united states. >> hawaii, 1961, august. yes. >> why would donald trump look, i questioned it. i demanded his birth certificate. i then saw his birth certificate. i now stand corrected. >> he just is not going talk about it anymore. that's what people wanted and so they got what they wanted. >> last night he also talked about muslims and how he feels about muslims. let me play you a portion of that moment. >> it was a testing moment for a man running for president. >> i don't think so. >> you never know when they are coming. >> i don't think so. >> but here you had a bigot. >> that was -- well you don't know that. >> you could slapped it down.
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>> you don't though that. let me ask you this. there's a problem in this country and it's muslims. i love the muslims. many friends, people living in this build, muslims. they are phenomenal people. but like everything else you have people where there are problems. we could say there are no problems prosecute the muslims. there is no terrorism. there is no anything. they didn't knock down the world trade center. to the best of my knowledge the people that knocked down the world trade center, you know -- they didn't fly back to sweden. >> that is what 60 minutes released last night about that conversation. donald trump says i love muslims. have many in my building yet they knocked down the world trade center. doesn't he need to draw a distinction between terrorists and radicals -- >> well i think he did. >> did he draw a clear enough line there. >> sure, i think he has. what i find fascinating is this whole muslim business.
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i had a column in the spectator, reggie love witnessed a conversation between then senator obama and hillary clinton in december 2007 in which senator obama flatly accused her of pushing the line that he was a muslim. and he was not very happy about it. so this kind of thing originated with hillary clinton. and why scott pelle isn't going to -- >> hold on. let me clarify there. that were ardent hillary clinton supporters who also questioned president obama's burirthplace. but hillary clinton did not and. >> president obama accused her of this to her face and she didn't deny it. i'm going right from the account reggie love wrote in his book. i quoted it exactly. so, you know, what can i tell you? i mean if the president himself is accusing her and she doesn't deny it, who am i to say? >> let's move on to what ben
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carson has said. because he has gone back and forth trying to explain whether or not he would ever support a muslim candidate for president. at first he said he would not on meet the press. then yesterday he said -- he tried to say he was talking about extremists. he was just on the fox morning show this morning. here is what he said now. >> i never said that a person could not run for office. i just said i wouldn't support them. do i not have a right to support what i want to support? i want to support what made this nation great and what made us unique. i want to support the things that gave me an opportunity to come from nowhere to rise to a very high position in our society. i want that for the people who are coming after us. >> so jeffrey, very quickly. is that now the right answer for him? >> yeah. i do think it is. to be perfectly candid i thought he, you know, said what you were saying there and article six of
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the constitution there is no religious test. that's pretty basic. if that's what he he said which is what i thought, i thought he was wrong. he's now moved to a better place here. that is the kind of america we should all want. donald trump will join us live on "new day" tomorrow morning to talk about all this and more. okay out to chris in washington d.c. how's it looking. >> reporter: take a look a at this scene. 15,000 here. look at the lines of the street. thousands and thousands are coming out to meet pope francis. we know he's going speak in here in less than han hour. what is the message going to be? how is he going to be make it? it will be in english which is a nu unique opportunity for the american audience. the question is what will happen when he meets with the president
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just minutes from now pope francis is going to be welcomed into the white house by president obama directly behind us here. this is the south lawn. thousands of people here. thousands of people all around the streets surrounding this area waiting to see pope francis and more importantly waiting to hear what he saz to say. and he's be speaking in english today and tomorrow when he's the first pope to address a joint session of congress. what will he say and what will it mean to our ever so divided congress? let's talk with anna navarro. no matter your politics, you are excited to be here today. >> my politics today is i'm all in for pope. francis 2016. it is a great day. one of the things that you see here is a lot of bipartisanship. i was walking around the section where the congress people are. and you will see republicans and democrats. today really they are not republicans and democrats. they are here to see this pope and see the message of mercy and love and unity. it may only last a couple of
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days but let's embrace it while he's here. >> couple days would be nice. your enthusiasm is obvious. look how tall you are because of this papal presence. it is amazing. i think we've become the reflection of our own catholicism. and it's lifting you up. >> i'm a bad bad catholic but my catholic juices are flowing and i think that is what this pope is about. he's got charisma. he's bringing people back that haven't been feeling good about the church for a long time and people are just so happy to be here with this pope. tomorrow i think he's going to have sticks and carrots. i think he's going to say some things we like. some things we don't like. but let's not politicize it too much. he's not here to push epa regulations. he's not here to opine on key stone. i think he's going to tell us to be good to each other and to be good tour planet.
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that is what a pope should be. >> i think he's going to start with that. i think what he's saying is going to wind up being measured. both by the church. his -- but is he enough about the rules. is enough about the right things for them? they will see. have they gone back to the pews? not as much as they have become more enthusiastic. then his influence in terms of what he's done so far. he met with fidel. he didn't meet with dissidents. >> i'm very disappointed and hurt that he found the time, 40 minutes to go to fidel's house. which i think is a huge symbolism. and let's remember. fidel is a dictator. he's been an assassin. outlawed religion. outlaw -- >> do you think it was a pre
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condition? >> i don't know. >> because it was pretty obvious thing not do. >> he did speak against some things before he got there. i wish he would have spent time with the dissidents. i remember when john paul went to nicaragua. s i was born there. and you might remember that there was a priest who had gone and joined the revolution. and john paul ii exforuated him at the tarmac of the airport. i wish this pope had done something more symbolic on that front. >> one last thing. some of the gop is getting heat. although the democrats had a guy who said he's not coming. he better stick in his lane. we don't need to be lectured. chris christie said he's only infallible on religion. which isn't true. he's not on that either but that is in the weeds. do you think it is fair
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criticism they shouldn't have come outlet and said anything potentially hostile to the pope. or is it their right. >> we have freedom of speech. i think some democrats aren't going oolike what he may say on abortion and same-sex marriage. and some of the republicans may not like what he says on immigration. he's the pope. don't judge him as the republican or democrat or a partisan. for god sakes this is the first time the man steps foot in america. he's not here to influence our american political system. he's here to influence our spiritality. >> enjoy the day. in just minutes you hear the band getting warmed up. it is about to happen. we're going to have the pope give a white house address in just minutes. what's he going to say? how he's going to make you feel? we have a pview of what we thin he might talk about next. but not every insurance company
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of the white house. a beautiful scene. about 15,000 packing it in here but hundreds of thousands lining the streets. makes it a the big security issue for the p.o.t.u.s. and the pope. both sides of the coin here what we expect to hear. jim, how have the preparations been going? has there been anything that's surprised the security agenda this morning yet? >> as you know we know washington is a pretty secure town on any given day the white house is a pretty secure place. but i've never seen anything like that. i drove past the vatican embassy this morning where the pope has been staying. already secure. they have closed off the street. concrete barriers. more police than i've seen in a long time here in washington. hearing helicopters hovering over head. this gets to the challenge here. keeping him safe. they know sadly the pope is a target for terrorist groups but
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they also know the pope's nature. he wants to get out and connect with people. and that presents a challenge and really the balance here they are trying to strike throughout is keep him safe certainly. but allow him to be the pope he wants to be to connect with the american people on his first trip here. it is a real challenge but i've never seen a presence like this before trying to meet that challenge. >> all right jim. and as you were talking we just want to show you live picture here. we have an honor guard setting up getting ready for the presentation of the colors. that could only mean one thing. the ceremony is going to win. we're going to hear from the president and the pope in english. the american audience will be able to understand him better. and also may be a limitation on how much he goes off message. let's bring in dealia to get some perspective. english is not his first language. why do you think it was so important for him to speak in english toda
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and do you think it will be a limitation? >> i think, you know, the fact that only four out of 18 speeches he'll be giving in the united states are in english, certainly the opening address. it was right that it would be in english. it is not necessarily a limitation in the sense that if he wants to go off speech he'll do it anyway. but this might not be the occasion in which he'll do that. the opening speech probably he will stick close to the text because it is not the kind of environment. i mean, with 15,000 people there, it is not a sort of intimate place where maybe the pope would feel that he could go off message. >> okay. dealia. we have just a little bit of time left. we are getting ready behind us. there is criticism coming at the pope for what he didn't get done at the cuba. didn't meet with dissidents. will they make sure they check boxes here they can't in cuba in
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terms of making strong statements. >> i do want to mention in the press conference the pope gave coming over to the united states he said that there had been an arrangement that he would at least greet some dsidents that then didn't show up. and the reporter had asked the question. there had been reports that dissidents had been arrested outside the theater that were trying to greet the pope. so there actually is something that needs to be cleared up there about what happened. the pope claims that phone calls were made to invite dissidents to greet him. so i think that's important that we say that. and then that meeting didn't happen. >> right. and it is also important that we say that that explanation wasn't satisfying to everybody. and there will be similar criticism going forward here but that is part of the experience. thank you very much. we'll keep checking in as the situation progresses. let's take a quick break. the ceremony is getting ready to start. stay with us.
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live pictures here. the band is playing. as they welcome pope francis. we know it will be in english for the american audience. this crowd about 15,000 but hundreds of thousands lining the streets in this area because the pope is going to drive the streets of washington d.c. carol costello is in the
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national mall. can you hear us? what it's like? >> reporter: the excitement is building. literally thousands of people lining constitution avenue waiting for the pope mobile to pass by. although it won't pass buy for a number of hours. the hope will con down 17th. turn on constitution. and down 15th. and make his way to st. matthews. all of these people behind me. the mood is joyous. a lot of people are praying. i walked through a crowd a short time ago. a lot of people were saying their rosaries. and of course security is very tight. as the morning has progressed we have noticed more and more national guardsmen, secret service, fbi and local d.c. police. and as you can see people are being kept behind barricades so even if the pope does get outside of his pope mobile people will not be able to run up beside it. and as you know there is a good reason for that. because there is a great effort to keep the pope safe today.
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off the table. this is cnn's coverage of the people's pope. francis comes to america. and a very exciting morning here in washington. looking at live pictures of the residence, the vatican ambassador to the united states. this is where the pope is staying while here in washington. at any moment we expect to pope to be leaving to take the five minute drive to the white house. meanwhile there you see the south lawn and the truman balcony. estimated 15,000 invited guests eagerly awaiting his arrival to america. we want to welcome our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm anderson cooper joined by christiana amanpour. and if the outpouring of support in coupe is anything line we've seen here we're going to see some fantastic scenes. and cnn will be with you all day covering his events, including a canonization that is somewhat controversial to some.
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and if there is anything predictable about this pope that is that he is unpredictable. >> what he does and says will give us a lot to talk about. but first to the white house and chris cuomo is standing by. exciting morning here in washington. and certainly on the south lawn where you are. >> people have been lining up fur hours. the excitement is palpable. about 15,000 people here. there was just a round of applause as the u.s. contingent just came walking out. secretary kerry is sitting down now behind us. so you have what is the man, pope francis and p.o.t.u.s. you have the moment, which is what's going on in our country right now as pope francis comes here both politically and culturally and then the message. what is he going to say today? we do know that the pope is going to give very few speeches in english but this will be one today as will the joint session of congress speech tomorrow. for all the pomp and circumstance here there's been equal concern of the practicalities. specifically security. so let's bring in jim shudo and
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also michelle kazinski also. let's deal with the politics first. michele what are we expected from the president and the pope this morning. >> well the president can go into this with a sense of eagerness. this is great timing for the white house because the pope largely glees with many of the things president obama is trying to accomplish. aside from the big differences in stance on things like gay marriage and abortion, we expect the pope to really hit the subject of climate change, immigration, income inequality. he may even go to violence and gun control. as the white house puts it, pope francis likes to speak his mind. so it will be interesting to see what he commends the u.s. for doing and what he might even spell out that the u.s. could do better, chris. >> right. and a big function of this will be how. how does the pope say it? that was a big part of the examination in cuba what he did both positively and negatively. so we have the politics. we also have the prooktalities.
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how do you keep the situation safe? even in washington d.c., which is known for a lot of security. let's get to jim for that. about how they feel the status of the plan is going and what the expectations are. >> they feel confident, chris. they have been doing their work on this. they have kept all members of the secret service from taking any vacations since august because of this enormous focus. you are not seeing a lot of the efforts here. you are seeing some of them. hearing the helicopters over head. i drove past the pope's residence this morning. and i've never seen security like that and it is right across the street from the vice president's house. and the so much to keep the pope safe. and particularly a pope that does not like to stay behind closed doors and bullet proof glass. we he wants to connect. he says if you are going to make a trip like this you need human communication. or don't make it at all. so this is going to be the tension between that security effort. they know sadly that the pope is a target of terrorists. tension between that and between
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the need t desire of this pope to get out there and connect on his first visit to the u.s. >> and there you see pope francis emerging from the ambassador's residence, greeting the crowds who have been waiting quite some time this morning to see him. >> this is the moment really. and it comes at a very pivotal moment for the catholic church. apart from all the things we expect him to say on the big issues the really big pastoral issue is to get catholics back into the church and onto the pews. because the church has been losing members over the last seven or so years and his mission is to get them back indoors. he is not only so popular amongst catholics but other religion, even atheists and agnostics. so let's bring in our panel.
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welcome to you. what, bishop, do you expect to be the real highlight of this visit? we all talk about some of the controversy, some of the politics. what is the pastoral mission? >> i think the highlight is going to be the royal meeting of families in philadelphia. that is the original reason why he came to the united states. he was coming originally on a pastoral visit. and now when he comes to the u.s., he comes to d.c. and comes to new york he's actually going into that more diplomatic side at this time at least. >> for pope francis, who is known for deviating from the schedule to want to actually go out and meet people. this, moments like this is what he looks forward to the most. and if we know when we meets in front of a joint meeting on capitol hill tomorrow he's not going to be having lunch with senators, with congress people after making his speech. he's going to be going with catholic charities and meeting
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with homeless people, the mentalitily isle. >> this is one of the highlights right now. see how he's talking to people there. he's taking his time. you wouldn't think he's got to get to the white house. that is what he likes and that is are where he wants to be. and his larger scale message is you are a rich country. you are a privileged country and it is your obligation therefore to help others and to bring that to others. >> it is extraordinary as we see the images to see his willingness to not only reach out to people but to allow people to reach out to him, to touch him torques hold on to him. >> and the vatican security is very aware that that'ses what he wants to do. so you notice that they allow him complete liberty to do that. it almost seems like there isn't a whole lot of security going on. but of course behind the scenes. >> of course there is and apparently according to everybody talk t about washington the biggest security operation in history. at least in recorded memory. but he is obviously someone who likes to reach out.
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in brazil he was in his little car. he turned down the window. he put his hand out and there were practically scenes of pandemonium as people rushed to him. and afterwards he apologized to security detail. but he said very clearly i'm here to meet people. i'm not here to be in a bubble. what is the point if not to meet people? how much of a complication is that for security and for y'all. >> he made that decision early on from the moment he was made pope that he wasn't going to be hiding and he wanted to reach out for people and be there for people. so yes it does cause some upset within the security people but the holy father has said this is who i am and what i'm about and what i want to do. >> he is going to give his opening remarks at the white house in english. we have not heard him do that in the past. obviously he's doing that more the american audience. for the people who he's trying to the talk to on this particular trip. how much of an effort has that been for him to actually learn or practice and get it out in
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english? he only took three months of english in dub lib in 1980. i'm interested to hear whether he's going to speak english with an irish accent. but he has been practicing and he's very focused on making sure he brings the message he wants to the people of the united states. >> and when he gives off the cuff remarks will in english he be a little more practiced in what he says and less likely to give off the cuff remarks. he'll be doing a number of events in spanish as well. and by the way we're anticipating president obama coming out to the south lawn aft the white house at any moment. it is about the five minute drive from the vatican ambassador's residence to the south lawn of the white house are some 15,000 guested are a assembled there. there you see the white house ready to greet this pontiff who shows no sign of being rushed.
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>> by my watch he's already a little late. >> the problem is nobody can tell him. he's got decide. so nobody taps him on the shoulder and says hey. >> which actually brings up another issue. there is a little bit of i've read and i've been to the vatican and i've sort of felt it myself. anything from adulation to serious paraphernalianoia among who just don't know which way this pope is going to go, what he's going to rule. all the big reforms he's talking about and perhaps putting into effect. so it is a little bit of a pope who keeps everybody on tender hooves. >> he does but because he's braking out of the backs in a lot of ways but it is all for the good in sense of opening up our arms to embrace people and offer god's mercy. and that is what he's all about. >> i thought you meant

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