good evening from new york. thanks for joining us in the middle of a city still buzzing with the arrival of pope francis. after leaving, the pontiff arrived a short time ago the residence of the papal observer to the united nations a mile or

so uptown where he is going to be spending the night ahead of a very big day tomorrow. he is, of course, 78 years old and his first visit to the united states and made history in washington and took people's breath away from the moment his plane touched down at kennedy airport arriving to the sounds of a local band playing "new york" before going further, here are some of the incredible moving sights and sounds. enjoy. ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ >> incredible day in new york. here to talk about it and still to come, father james martin the guide to almost everything and biblical contributor and dilya gallagher. for you in terms of today, what really stood out? >> well, it's hard to choose, isn't it? i mean, this final event possibly in new york because there was that nice, warm welcome literally, big hug from cardinal timothy dolin and that is typical cardinal dolin and t typical embrace new yorkers wanted to give and show to pope francis and i saw also the pope really relaxed and enjoying

himself and entourage -- >> you feel like he's sort of gotten into the trip in a sense? >> i think he is, maybe i'm just projecting it but i think he's hit his stride here and we'll see how the rest of the trip goes but i see that he's actually really having a good time. >> bruce, for you? >> i agree that he seems to be warming up to the experience and to me one of the highlights today was the moment after lunch where he went plunging into that crowd, sort of almost unannounced to the security. >> at catholic charity. >> criminals and homeless people that lit up. he's also getting stronger. i want to draw attention to this moment that you saw this morning when he was at congress, he was standing at the podium and quoted moses, not jesus. he quoted moses and across from where he's standing in the house chamber is that leaf of moses and that's an understanding of the role of moses and pilgrims

compare themselves to moses and founding fathers wanted him in the statute of liberty and lincoln and martin luther king were compared to moses. he seems to understand america for the fact this is his first trip, it's all the more remarkable. >> father, for you? father martin? >> the it was a voice of prophesy. the themes were traditional he called us to reckonciliation. big surprise, dorothy day the founder of the catholic worker movement and thomas martin, the great apost l, one amazing thing is dorothy day was told by the cardinal of this cathedral not to use the word catholic in the catholic worker because she was at odds with the church. these are people that went through great struggles and seen with some suspicion and he is

raising up great aapost ls and using them. >> have you heard him talk about them before? >> never. >> thomas is seen with some suspicion by people. he's too open to dialogue. he used people we know, martin luter king to call us to our better selves and rather than resetting a lit knney of ills w the united states. >> do you think a trip like this really does allow him to kind of understand the united states in a new and a different way? given, he's never been here before in his life. >> a absolutely. this is his first trip. two of the big words in his

vocabulary are encounter and dialogue. he likes to meet people and a goal of the trip was to interact with americans and see what they were like and i think he's getting more and more comfortable because he's getting to know the united states. one thing he said about the poor is it's not enough to give to charity. we have to meet them, encounter them, touch them, he's doing the same with the poor and the united states but everyone in the united states. >> is it important that he understands the united states as pope? i think only 8% of the world's catholics are in the united states, obviously, in terms of money and in terms of in a lot of different measurements, the united states perhaps has an importance in the catholic church but does it matter he understands? >> i think so. it certainly matters for him to understand his flock in all areas and the united states having a reputation that goes before it and good for him to come here and be able to meet and speak with americans here

rather than just at the vatican and see how people live here and what people are feeling and also, on the level obviously politically and internationally, it's an important country for the things the pope would like to advance, which he's been speaking to us about and in particular strikes me that he continually repeats the fact that he, too, is an immigrant and he is the son of immigrants and that he is the foreigner. >> and an american. he keeps saying he's an american, too. >> and extending the idea he's an american. >> he clearly knows the time he is here now. he knows what is going on the and the debate taken place. no doubt. >> he knows the time and the place, i think there was a subtle difference in the message in washington and the message he gave here a few minutes ago. in washington he was talking about dialogue in front of congress where that is a problem. here he's talking about we're not just going to be efficient

and talk about metrics and success. so it was a slight change i think in the message that shows not only in the moment we're in but understands the difference in the place where he's talking. >> we got to take a break father martin, thank you so much. just fascinating conversation. more now on where the pope is spending this night and all his nights in manhattan. take a look. that is the view live there. >> visit the united states for the first time in cuba, that really means a lot to him. >> archbishop host pope francis to the united nations. a big title but for this pope, it will be a simple affair. >> dinner and lunch and breakfast and very simple really

and no, no red meat. >> all fine for a pope who shunned the or nate papal apartments in rome for the simplicity of the more humbled guest house and only asked for water and bananas during the stay. the home is 11,000 square feet valued at around $20 million. it was given to the church in 1975 by the family of former new york city member hue grant. >> he visited in '95 and again when pope benedict came in 2008. >> pope john paul the second visited in 1979 shaking hands with the sun of the new york

mayor that owned the house, grant grew up in the home. >> the house was completed in 1894. >> regis high school founded by the grant family made this video, the pope's home away from rome. those inside the residence say it is modest by new york standards, even the bedroom where the pope will sleep is described as basically a room. it does come with its own chapel. >> in 1914 mrs. grant had a private chapel built in the residence naming it the chapel of the holy spirit. >> after two nights in new york, the the pontiff moves to philadelphia and somewhat less storied accommodations. the seminary, the church was forced to sell its 23,000 square foot mansion in 2012 for budget reasons. miguel marquez, cnn, new york. >> well, a lot more ahead in this hour including this, instead of a fancy lunch with

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pope plan sfrancis is settl for the night about a mile uptown from us. we're outside st. patrick's cathedral where he led prayers and he's been putting his stamp

from the month he climbed into the tiny fiat but takes a selfie for people that have gone to extraordinary lengths to show their love for him. so much to talk about and when he was done speaking to congress, he visited the poor spending his lunch hour with a meals program run by catholic charities. >> reporter: catholic charities plan was so well orchestrated, humble doors would open, those gathered the homeless and decembstitute would applaud and stand and pope francis would not have it. in a maddening move for the secret service launched into the crowd. people swarmed around the pope, everybody dispensing to address him the holiness.

selfies ruled. >> dig tarries and people like that to see the pope and the pope said no, he wants to see the common people and the people that he serves. ima imagine that, me. >> i felt something, i'm not lying, i felt something. >> pope francis made a beeline for children and they came prepared. 8-year-old steven who lives in a shelter with his mother and sister came armed with a letter. it reads, dear pope, can you please pray for me and my mother for a better life and a better job? pope francis took the letter with him. >> what was that like? >> all of this vintage francis expert at using grace to inspire. >> reporter: did you feel something, too? >> i felt a little vibe of positive energy, a lot of it and i hope it flows through the city. >> reporter: what did this mean

to you, this whole experience? sgh the world to me, that's the pope and by me being in the situation i'm in, i get to meet the pope and then i walks out. i didn't get no picture. >> reporter: does it give you hope? >> yes, it does. it gives me hope and i'm full of hope and joy and happiness so it's just added on. >> reporter: pope francis leaving that impression i've heard so many times a man so human yet divine. >> incredible images, such a day. carol costello joins us where the pope is now. the vatican diplomatic residence in new york. to have been there and talked to people who the pope met with, what was the energy like there? >> reporter: i can't even describe it. it was electric. as soon as the pope started mingling with the crowd, people really did literally swarm around him and reached out to touch him.

their poforgot protocol and peoe that worked at the archdiocese said i know i wasn't supposed to talk to the pope but one women blurted out can you bless me? he did. people were so excited and he was so accessible, he made them feel comfortable enough to say anything to him. >> you could tell the joy on his face, clearly one of the highlights so far for him. carol costello, great piece. thank you for that. she also met pope francis during the lunch there also was -- lalita joins us. first of all, what was it like meeting the pope today sm. >> it was wonderful. i didn't think i would ever experience like this because i do live in the shelter and i was really excited about going today with the ladies and i really,

really did, the atmosphere was beautiful. i felt it when i first got there, even the security were nice -- >> and did he say anything to you? did you say anything to him? >> i didn't get a chance to. he was surrounded by so many people. i didn't get the chance. a couple of my friends did get to touch him, and one of the ladies from the shelter was able to touch him, also but just being there in the same room with him was enough for me. >> yeah. catholic charities does such great work and your clients work for weeks preparing for this historic moment. for you what did it mean to have the pope there today? >> it was a really great experience. we did a lot of work. we had weeks of preparation trying to ensure this day was special for the clients that we serve. the pope's visit today from me

was historical because it meant that the pope recognized the individuals that we work with every day. our individuals tend to be pushed to the side and ignored and people tend to not acknowledge their presence so today they were the vips in the room when the pope came through and seeing our ladies and gentlemen so excited to be in his presence made my heart melt. it was a wonderful, wonderful day. >> and it was so clear that many commentators said this, you know, though he just talked to congress, he could have stayed on capitol hill but clearly, this was something not just important to him but something he looked forward to and seemed happier with you and your group than really anyplace else we've seen him. >> well, i'm glad to know that. you know, i think positive

energy begets other positive energy and there was so much positive energy in that tent this afternoon we fed off of his positive energy and he fed off our positive energy. we are very happy he chose to spend his afternoon with us. >> lalita, was it what you expected? to actually be that close to him. it's one thing to see pictures of the guy and see pictures of him on television, to actually be in the same room, was it different than you thought? >> it was a little bit. the shelter that i'm in is one of those shelters that we all try to deal with on a daily basis but to go to this place here and meet this pope, it was just amazing to me and i couldn't ask for anything more right now even though i don't have in life what i want right

now but just to be around these ladies, but this pope around and he cares about us that much to come out and walk around, even if i didn't get to touch him, i was still satisfied with that. >> lolita appreciate you being with us and thank you for talking about the day you had and kenita thank you for your work. >> thank you. when we come back, the pope's historic and to many deeply moving words to congress today and late word on security concerns we learned he's having. he's in a very tight cocoon given that what could he be concerned about? we'll have the surprising answer. it's going to surprise you ahead, tonight. can a business have a mind?

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as we said this morning, pope francis did something no pope has really ever done. he addressed a joint meeting of congress a short time ago chuck schumer described how inspiring the pope's words were to him and the house chamber was packed and

invited bests giving the pontiff an enthusiastic welcome. president kennedy certainly could not have foreseen it and francis began speaking he did not mince words and while he is message was blunt, he drew cheers, you were in the chamber when the pope spoke today. just the feeling what was it like in that room? >> you know, on one hand i want to say electric but more than that. there was obviously a spiritual eloquent themeement to it. i've been in there for many speech from presidents and heads of state and so forth and it is of course by nature a partisan event and there was really nothing partisan about the message that the pope was giving. there was a lot of trepidation before hand that he would scold republicans or democrats on

various issues. he certainly got his message across without scolding it all. it was the most unbelievable written and performed message that i've actually ever seen and more importantly, unbelievably received because i've never seen the whole house chamber, hundreds and hundreds of seats all of the elected representatives from this whole country so focussed and most of them memorizedemorized. >> incredible when you consider he's still learning english. not a language he's that comfortable in. it seems like he, and correct me if i'm wrong but seems like he used more elliptical language talking abouti issues that migh appeal to life and the the unborn and made references to families and relationships seemed to speak on issues that might appeal to progressives or liberals. >> that's a really excellent

observation and exactly right. talking about immigration and climate change. there was no question about what he was saying. he was saying you need to open your hearts on immigration. you need to -- he actually talked about people coming north. i mean, he was talking about the immigration problem and more importantly the political debate in this country. on climate change he said it's human made and we got to deal with it but when it came to -- those are issues most democrats agree with him on. when it came to the issue traditionally republicans tend to agree with popes and the catholic church on, abortion, same-sex marriage, he was more vague. he spoke in kind of the papal code talking about life but didn't give those who agree with him a chance to take that in before he finished his sentence talking about the death penalty most republicans disagree with. that's an excellent observation. >> fascinating day. thank you. just as we saw in

washington, there is a massive amount of security for the pope. i've never seen anything like it, not even for president obama. the chief national correspondent joins me now. when you saw that motorcade coming down, the sheer number of vehicles, have you seen anything -- >> i haven't seen that for the president i have to say. they talk about presidential level security. no man or woman on earth protected like the u.s. president. this was failing of security around a pope, you know, who wants to get in touch with the people and privately there is frustration because he wants to reach out -- >> you're hearing that. >> i am. diplomatically delivered but wants more opportunities to connect and we saw him take every opportunity possible. when he landed at jfk he went right to the crowd but that's a controlled environment. tomorrow through central park, that will be a time he wants to get closer to the crowd.

for all the security and immense challenge a political leader and religious leader. he would be sadly, just lay it out there a tremendous terrorist target. that's the context they are dealing with. the new york police say on new years eve they deal with 1 million people in times square. it will be 90,000 people in the park tomorrow this is a challenge feels very much up to. >> >> and the pope mobile, those people were not prescreened, they were waiting with backpacks with them. central park tomorrow everybody has to go through airport style screening. >> and that's when he has the opportunity. that was a screened crowd so a different kettle of fish. >> jim sciutto, thank you. we'll talk to jim now from the sacred to secular, trump tower steps from here and while the news is focused on pope francis, no doubt about that and message of love there is news from donald trump in the world of

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donald trump is upset again not just at fox news or politico but lashing out at randi kaye and armed with misinformation. she reported on this program last night about a trump event in north carolina that was sparsely attended compared to other appearances and a later appearance that same day. trump did not like that and attacked the messager on "new day". >> your reporter in south carolina who is absolutely terrible covered my speech. i made a speech to the african american chamber of commerce in north carolina. wonderful people and the room was full. every seat was full. when i went to the stage, everybody rushed forward. they all rushed to the front of the room. ballroom. they all rush the to the front

of the room and when they did that, you had half of the seats in the back were empty because everybody was standing in the front ask we had a great time. the cnn reporter, absolutely horrible starts off saying oh, look, the room is half empty. the room wasn't half empty. everybody was standing next to me in the front of the room. >> make no mistake, everything you heard donald trump say is wrong. here again, is randi kaye. >> i just am excited about seeing him in person. >> the enthusiasm was there but turnout was not. we arrived capacity 1500, about 90 minutes before the scheduled start time of 2:00 p.m. and 30 minutes before the speech was to begin, the hall still looked like ts more than one-third empty. >> randi kaye with cnn. when trump arrived, he was happy to see us. >> where is cnn?

come here cnn. >> reporter: but that happiness turned into something else entirely this morning after he saw our report last night noting the room was only about two-thirds full. it had hundreds of empty seats. listen to him on cnn's "new day". >> your reporter in north carolina is absolutely terrible. i made a speech to the african american chamber of commerce, wonderful people. the room was full. every seat was full. >> every seat full? not so much. this picture was taken while mr. trump was speaking. here is video around the same time. notice he's on stage. and notice the many empty seats in the back of the room. again, mr. trump. >> when i went to the stage, everybody rushed forward. they all rushed to the front of the room. it was a ballroom. they all rushed to the front of the room and when they did that, you had half of the seats in the back were empty because everybody was standing in the front. >> reporter: for the record, not

everyone was standing and the empty seats were empty because they were never occupied. we weren't the only ones that noticed. this new york times headlines reads a day of empty seats and donald trump in full attack. the washington post headline, donald trump says he didn't speak to a half empty room but he did. the post writer phillip bump noted trump's comments about our reporting, then fact checked it posting this photo from the associated press, notice all the empty seats? trump is at the podium. the post noted this one, too. some people standing, most not. the post summed it up this way, cnn's assessment appears to have been the correct one. we also pointed out the event was sponsored by the south carolina african american commerce but the crowd was overwhelmingly white with a hand full of african americans but on

"new day" donald trump denied that, too. >> many african americans and many white people, too. >> reporter: here is another angle. note the ethnicity and yet another angle. in television, pictures tell the story. especially this story. >> and randi kaye joins us now. and just to be clear, as i remember last night, you talked about a second event he went to that was better attended, correct. >> it absolutely was but this one not so much, anderson. >> okay. this polling this trump keeps quoting that has him doing so well with african american voters, what about that? >> the poll he talks about shows him with 25% support. he talked about it yesterday at the event we were at and he says that is a huge number. the trouble is anderson, this poll he's quoting and keeps quoting is not one that cnn's polling unit thinks is reliable. i'm told this particular poll used a sample size that is a

very small subset of african americans so the estimates are considered to be unreliable. in fact, anderson, other polls with larger more robust samples have found trump is decidedly unpopular with the group. for example, after trump kept to thing that poll, that poll found 16% of african americans had a favorable view of donald trump and you can compare that to 72% who said they had an unfavorable view but trump never mentions that poll no matter how many times he talks about his support among african americans, anderson. >> all right. randi kaye, appreciate your reporting, as i always do. joining me now is former rnc official and new york times charles blow and also cnn political commentator jeffrey lord. jeffrey, what about this, if trump is going to portray

himself as a guy that tells it like it is and speaks the truth no matter what, then shouldn't he speak the truth? i've never heard somebody as obsessed with talking about numbers and ratings and seems like this one wasn't as well attended. >> when i learned what we would talk about tonight. i did an interview with donald trump over a year ago and one of the things i asked him is along the lines that republicans keep thinking their candidates are treated badly by the media. i'll read a couple lines. he says one thing you have to do is inform the public. the public has to know about the dishonesty of the press because these are bad people and don't tell the truth and have no intention and i would expose them 10 0%.

you got to fight them, you got to fight them. in other words, what i'm suggesting here is this is his mo-if you will and it feeds into what we talked about last night, you know, he's a fighter trying to demonstrate this and he does it. so it could be randy today, it could be the new york times, it could be whomever but this is what he does and this came up in context, by the way, also of the donald sterling situation where he felt he had been badly misquoted. >> look, i understand there is nothing more frustrating than being misquoted. there is nothing more frustrating than having an inaccurate report having done about you and i'm all for that. everybody's right and everybody should do it and if you're wrong say you're wrong but in this case, i mean, "the washington post" and new york times, randi kaye, i mean, there is no reason randi wants to put out a report talking about the number of

seats -- >> obviously -- >> charles -- >> different opinion. >> yes, yes, clearly no doubt about that. charles, does he play to his supporters this notion of being the agreed party, anti media attack and look, there is plenty to attack, bias is a real issue. we think about and worry about and ring hands about but whether or not donald trump is accurate, i mean, in this case he doesn't seem to be accurate, does it not matter to those people who are supporting him because it plays into that narrative of the media is out to get me? >> i think in this particular situation, this is a media creation. i believe my personal opinion is this entire candidacy is propertied up by free media time and so he can play both sides of that and that's his prerogative to play the victim of the media and ride the coat tails of the media. i think that the bigger problem is that the campaign made such a

horrible decision about this hee meeting in south carolina as an out reach to african american s and doesn't work that way. in 2008, the number of african americans in the republican primary is so much below 1% it didn't register. in 2012 it was 1%. 98% of republican primary voters in north carolina are white. if you want to reach out to black people, go to a state where you have a bigger shot at attracting more people. your hall will more likely be filled and you may have more people in your black event than white people. you could have done that by simply staying in new york city. 8% of the republican primary voters in 2012 in new york state were black. you have a larger chance of actually pulling off a great e event that has black representation in the place like new york rather than going to

south carolina. it's a bad move by any republican candidate to go there and pull off a black event. >> tara, one thing for real estate magnet to embellish. i'm the best businessman around and trump embellishes things in that sense and always done it and you do it once or twice, people overlook it but in the realm of politics when you're actually, you know, when what you say and selling yourself as a truth teller, as a guy that tells it like it is, doesn't it reach a point where people catch on or people start to wonder if what you're saying is just self-promotion and embellish mmt and what is true? >> one would hope. the things you listed, that could be subjective. biggest buildings, i'm the greatest and trump is good at

that but with facts and trump tells you every seat was occupied and we have proof of that in the day in age of twitter and social media, you have folks that are on the ground besides the reporters who can make comments, who are there at the same time have and have nothing to do with the media. multiple sources of information that can prove something to be true or not true. so trump continuing to do this, telling people that the sky is orange when we know it's blue just because he says so and blaming the weather man because there is a conspiracy is going to wear thin and i think that if he continues to attack the media like this, the media is an easy target, right? we already know that the media doesn't poll well. people are suspicious of media, big media so he's been using that to his advantage and i think you brought that up earlier but at some point that becomes tire some. that's why fox news is over it and he's attacking anyone that

has any kind of report of things that aren't favorable to trump attacks them and that's awfully thin-skinned. >> what is interesting about it -- >> i don't see him fighting and taking it on the chin when he needs to and standing up which god forbid you criticize him. >>up. >> what's interesting to me is that this doesn't matter. this is a small event. it is understandable. maybe it wasn't well-promoted. for whatever reason, maybe not all the seats are going to be full. by him making it into something else, he makes it into a bigger thing than it really should be. he had a much bigger event the same day. he has had huge events. i appreciate all of you being with us. up next, a deadly day. a very serious day. the islamic pilgrimage to mecca. more than 700 people killed. we'll get an update from saudi arabia next. it's back to school time

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president obama and russian president, vladmir putin will meet next week. they are expected to discuss the situation in syria and ukraine. in san antonio, texas, the assistant coach accused of telling a player to tackle him. they said the official used racial slurs and the ref denies knows accusations. >> you may notice that pope francis was carrying a bag as he boarded the plane today in washington. we can end the mystery and tell you what it was he was carrying. we'll be right back. bring us your aching

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together, we're building a better california. outside st. patrick's cathedral. pope francis has a very big day tomorrow. quite a few people have been

asking, what is in the bag he carries? an electric razor, a prayer book, novelty rose sear beads and a tooth brush. cnn with don lemon starts now. such a remarkable day today as we follow the pope from the halls of congress, anderson, to the streets of new york. i was watching you and wolf. you were very excited. the he made note of how excited you were. what was the most memorable for you? >> certainly, seeing him in person when he would turn around as you are showing the individual crow right there. i was hitting wolf. it was like, wolf, stop looking at the monitor. turn around and look at the pope for goodness saeks. there was a moment after he spoke in st. patrick's when he was leaving st. patrick's cathedral. there were two elderly ladies who i don't think were able to get up. in this huge crowd, he could have walked right by. he zeroed in on them and bent down so he was at their eye level. he spoke to them. ion