good evening from new york. thanks for joining us in the middle of a city still buzzing with the arrival of pope francis. . >> the espionage tiff arrived just moments ago, the papal observer about a mile or so up town where he's going to be spending the night ahead of a very big day tomorrow. he is, of course, 78 years old. this is his first visit ever to the united states and he made history this morning in washington that frankly took people's breath away. here in new york, starting from the moment his plane touched down at kennedy airport, a local band playing "new york, new york." here are some of the incredibly

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guide to almost everything." also cnn vatican correspondent delia gallagher. for you, in terms of today, what really stood out. >> well, it's hard to choose, isn't it? this final event possibly in new york, because there was that nice warm welcome, literally. big hug from cardinal timothy dolan, and that is typical of cardinal dolan. and i think typical of the embrace that new yorkers wanted to give and wanted to show to pope francis. and i saw also the pope really relaxed and enjoying himself and indeed his entourage, which you don't always see. i think h he's hit his stride here. i see that he's actually really having a good time. >> well, i agree that he seems to be warming up to the experience. and to me, one of highlights of

today, anderson was the moment after lunch when he went plunging into the crowd, almost unannounced by security. and there were criminals and homeless people and he just lit up. but thee matically, he's also getting stronger. i want to draw attention to the mo moment this morning. he standed a the podium and quoted moses. across where he's standing in that house chamber is that bar relief of moses. that's understanding of the role of moses in the american story. the pilgrims compare themselves to moses. the founding fathers wanted him on the seal, the statue of liberty and both lincoln and martin luther king were compared to moses. he seems to understand america, the fact that this is his first trip it's all the more remarkable. >> father? >> i thought that talk to congress was stunning. i think it was a real voice of prophesy, basically. the themes were his traditional themes. he called us to reconciliation.

i almost cried at the end. he mentioned abraham lincoln, martin luther king. but a big surprise, dorothy day and thomas merton. dorothy gray, the great apostle of social justice. dorothy day was told by the cardinal, this cathedral behind us is not to use the word catholic in "kt lick worker." tom merton was silenced for a while. they've been seen in some quarters of the church with some suspicious. here he's raising up the apos e apostles and kind of using them to say his message. have you heard him talk about them before? >> never. dorothy day is a servant of god. she's on her way to saint hood. and she's well known in the united states. tom merton is still seen as suspicious to some people. he's too open to eastern

religions. he used people that we know, martin luther king, of course, lincoln, dorothy day and thomas merton to kind of all us to our better selves. rather then a recite a litany of ills to the united states. here's your heritage, here with your blessings, let's build on it and see what you have. >> do you think a trip like this really does allow him to kind of understand the united states in a new and a different way? he's never been here before in his life. >> absolutery. this is his first trip. two of his big words are encounter and dialogue. he loves to actually meet people. and one of the goals of the trip was actually interact with americans and see what they were like. and as delia was saying, i think he's getting more and more comfortable because he's getting to know the united states. one of the things he said about the poor is it's not enough to simply give them charity, we have to meet them and touch them. he's doing the same with the poor in the united states. but everyone in the united states. >> is it important that he understand the united states?

as pope? i mean, i think only -- correct me if i'm wrong, b fwu only 8% of the world's catholics are in the united states. in terms of money and a lot of different measures, perhaps the united states has an outsized importance in the catholic church, but does it matter that he understands? >> i think so. perhaps the united states having such a reputation that goes before it, it's good to come in and be able to speak with americans here rather than just the vatican. and also on the level obviously politically and internationally, it's an important country for all the things the pope would like to advance which he's been speaking to us about. he continue you'lly speaks to the fact that he, too, is an immigra immigrant.

he's a foreigner. >> and an american. he keeps saying he's an american, too. >> and extending the idea of what's an american. >> he clearly knows the time he is here now. he knows what has been going on. he knows the debate that's taken place, there's no doubt about it. given his emphasis on immigration. >> he knows the time, but he also knows the place. i think there was a subtle difference in the message he gave in washington and the message he gave here behind us in new york a few minutes ago. in washington, he was talking about dialogue. in front of congress, that is a problem. here, he's talking about work. he's talking about, we're not going to just be efficient and talk about metrics and success. we need to take rest and encounter people in that way. it was a slight change, i think, in the message that shows not only the moment we're in, he understands the difference in the ethos of the place where he's talking. >> we have to take a break. just fascinating conversation. more now on where the pope is spending this night and all his nights in manhattan. take a look.

>> reporter: it's whereupon tiffs laid their papal head when they visited the big apple for many years. >> visiting the united states and cuba for the first time i think means a lot to him. >> it's the vatican official home in new york. in church speak, it's called the apistolic nunsier of the holy see to the united nations. a big tittle but for this pope it will be a simple affair. >> dinner and launch and breakfast will be very simple, really. no red meat. >> all fine for the pope who shunned the papal home for the more humble guest house. "the new york times" reports that francis asked only for water and bananas in his room during his stay. the five-floor home is 11,000 square feet located on manhattan's upper east side. valued at around $20 million.

it was given to the church in 1975 by the family of former new york city mayor hugh grant. francis will be the third pope to stay. >> that's where pope john paul ii stayed in his visit in '79. his visit in '95, and then again when pope benedict came in 2008. >> pope john paul ii dedicated the building in october 1979. even shaking hands with hugh grant jr., the son of the new york mayor who owned the house grant grew up in the home. regis high school, also founded by the grant family made this video, home away from home for francis' visit. it's model by new york standards. it does come with its own chapel. >> in 1914, mrs. grant had a

private chapel built in the residence naming it the chapel of the holy spirit. the pontiff moves on to philadelphia and somewhat lest storied accommodations. miguel marquez, cnn. >> a lot more head, including this. instead of a fancy lunch with lawmaker, the people's pope visited a free meal program for the need y i in washington. we'll talk with two people who were there.

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>> proep francis is now settling into the night at the vatican diplomatic residence just about a mile uptown from us. he has been putting his unique stamp on this entire visit from the moment he climbed that tiny fiat to each time he takes a selfie or lingers to shake hands with people who have gone to extraordinary lengths to share their love for him. there's so much to talk about. so when he was done speaking to congress earlier today, he left the regal capital building and visited the poor, spending his lunch hour with some of washington's homeless at a meals program run by catholic charities. carol costello gives us a look.

appreciate pope francis would have known of it. after blessing a simple lunch, the pope in an extraordinary, yet maddening move for the secret service launched into the crowd. people swarmed around the pope, everybody dispensing of the advice to address him as your holiness. as far as kissing his ring, forget about it. selfies ruled. >> dignitaries and people like that to see the pope. the pope said no, he wants to see the common people, the people that he serves. imagine that, me. coming out of the ghetto. >> i felt something. i'm not lying, i felt something. >> pope francis made a beeline for children and they came prepared. 8-year-old steven who lives in

a shelter with his mother and sister came armed with a letter. it reads, dear pope, can you please pray for me and my mother for a better life and a better job? pope francis took the letter with him. >> what was that like? >> i didn't expect none of this. >> all of this vintage francis expert at using grace to inspire. >> reporter: did you feel something, too? >> i felt a little vibe of positive energy, a lot of it and i hope it flows through the city. >> reporter: what did this mean to you, this whole experience? >> it meant the world to me, because it's like, that's the pope. and by me being in the situation i'm in, like, i get to meet the pope and then i walks out. i didn't get no picture. >> reporter: does it give you hope? >> yes, it does. it gives me hope and i'm full of hope and joy and happiness so it's just added on. >> reporter: pope francis leaving that impression i've

heard so many times a man so human yet divine. >> incredible images, such a day. carol costello joins us where the pope is now. the vatican diplomatic residence in new york. to have been there and talked to people who the pope met with, what was the energy like there? >> reporter: i can't even describe it. it was electric. as soon as the pope started mingling with the crowd, people really did literally swarm around him and reached out to touch him. their forgot protocol and people that worked at the archdiocese said i know i wasn't supposed to talk to the pope but one women blurted out can you bless me? he did. people were so excited and he

was so accessible, he made them feel comfortable enough to say anything to him. >> you could tell the joy on his face, clearly one of the highlights so far for him. carol costello, great piece. thank you for that. she also met pope francis during the lunch there also was world -- lalita joins us. first of all, what was it like meeting the pope today sm. >> it was wonderful. i didn't think i would ever experience like this because i do live in the shelter and i was really excited about going today with the ladies and i really, really did, the atmosphere was beautiful. i felt it when i first got there, even the security were nice -- >> and did he say anything to you? did you say anything to him? >> i didn't get a chance to. he was surrounded by so many people. i didn't get the chance. a couple of my friends did get to touch him, and one of the ladies from the shelter was able

to touch him, also but just being there in the same room with him was enough for me. >> yeah. catholic charities does such great work and your clients work for weeks preparing for this historic moment. for you what did it mean to have the pope there today? >> it was a really great experience. we did a lot of work. we had weeks of preparation trying to ensure this day was special for the clients that we serve. the pope's visit today from me was historical because it meant that the pope recognized the

individuals that we work with every day. our individuals tend to be pushed to the side and ignored and people tend to not acknowledge their presence so today they were the vips in the room when the pope came through and seeing our ladies and gentlemen so excited to be in his presence made my heart melt. it was a wonderful, wonderful day. >> and it was so clear that many commentators said this, you know, though he just talked to congress, he could have stayed on capitol hill but clearly, this was something not just important to him but something he looked forward to and seemed happier with you and your group than really anyplace else we've seen him. >> well, i'm glad to know that. you know, i think positive energy begets other positive energy and there was so much positive energy in that tent this afternoon we fed off of his positive energy and he fed off our positive energy. we are very happy he chose to spend his afternoon with us. >> lalita, was it what you

expected? to actually be that close to him. it's one thing to see pictures of the guy and see pictures of him on television, to actually be in the same room, was it different than you thought? >> it was a little bit. the shelter that i'm in is one of those shelters that we all try to deal with on a daily basis but to go to this place here and meet this pope, it was just amazing to me and i couldn't ask for anything more right now even though i don't have in life what i want right now but just to be around these ladies, but this pope around and he cares about us that much to come out and walk around, even if i didn't get to touch him, i was still satisfied with that. >> lolita appreciate you being with us and thank you for talking about the day you had and kenita thank you for your work. >> thank you. when we come back, the pope's historic and to many

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as we said this morning, pope francis did something no pope has really ever done. he addressed a joint meeting of congress a short time ago chuck schumer described how inspiring the pope's words were to him and the house chamber was packed and invited bests giving the pontiff an enthusiastic welcome. president kennedy certainly could not have foreseen it and francis began speaking he did not mince words and while he is message was blunt, he drew cheers, you were in the chamber when the pope spoke today. just the feeling what was it like in that room? >> you know, on one hand i want to say electric but more than

that. there was obviously a spiritual element to it. i've been in there for many speech from presidents and heads of state and so forth and it is of course by nature a partisan event and there was really nothing partisan about the message that the pope was giving. there was a lot of trepidation before hand that he would scold republicans or democrats on various issues. he certainly got his message across without scolding it all. it was the most unbelievable written and performed message that i've actually ever seen and more importantly, unbelievably received because i've never seen the whole house chamber, hundreds and hundreds of seats all of the elected

representatives from this whole country so focussed and most of them memorized. >> incredible when you consider he's still learning english. not a language he's that comfortable in. it seems like he, and correct me if i'm wrong but seems like he used more elliptical language talking about issues that might appeal to life and the the unborn and made references to families and relationships seemed to speak on issues that might appeal to progressives or

liberals. >> that's a really excellent observation and exactly right. talking about immigration and climate change. there was no question about what he was saying. he was saying you need to open your hearts on immigration. you need to -- he actually talked about people coming north. i mean, he was talking about the immigration problem and more importantly the political debate in this country. on climate change he said it's human made and we got to deal with it but when it came to -- those are issues most democrats agree with him on. when it came to the issue traditionally republicans tend to agree with popes and the catholic church on, abortion, same-sex marriage, he was more vague. he spoke in kind of the papal code talking about life but didn't give those who agree with him a chance to take that in

before he finished his sentence talking about the death penalty most republicans disagree with. that's an excellent observation. >> fascinating day. thank you. just as we saw in washington, there is a massive amount of security for the pope. i've never seen anything like it, not even for president obama. the chief national correspondent joins me now. when you saw that motorcade coming down, the sheer number of vehicles, have you seen anything -- >> i haven't seen that for the president i have to say. they talk about presidential level security. no man or woman on earth protected like the u.s. president. this was failing of security around a pope, you know, who wants to get in touch with the people and privately there is frustration because he wants to reach out -- >> you're hearing that. >> i am. diplomatically delivered but wants more opportunities to connect and we saw him take every opportunity possible. when he landed at jfk he went

right to the crowd but that's a controlled environment. tomorrow through central park, that will be a time he wants to get closer to the crowd. for all the security and immense challenge a political leader and religious leader. he would be sadly, just lay it out there a tremendous terrorist target. that's the context they are dealing with. the new york police say on new years eve they deal with 1 million people in times square. it will be 90,000 people in the park tomorrow this is a challenge feels very much up to. >> >> and the pope mobile, those people were not prescreened, they were waiting with backpacks with them. central park tomorrow everybody has to go through airport style screening. >> and that's when he has the opportunity. that was a screened crowd so a different kettle of fish. >> jim sciutto, thank you. we'll talk to jim now from the sacred to secular, trump tower steps from here and while the news is focused on pope francis, no doubt about that and message of love there is news from donald trump in the world of politics. pretty much the opposite of love. he's lashing out at randi kaye based on her reporting on this program last night reporting that was accurate, i might add. see what he's saying, next.

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donald trump is upset again not just at fox news or politico but lashing out at randi kaye and he's armed with nothing more than misinformation and misplaced ire, frankly. she reported on this program last night about a trump event in north carolina that was sparsely attended compared to other appearances and a later

appearance that same day. trump did not like that and attacked the messenger this morning on "new day" on cnn. >> your reporter in south carolina who is absolutely terrible covered my speech. i made a speech to the african american chamber of commerce in south carolina. wonderful people and the room was full. every seat was full. when i went to the stage, everybody rushed forward. they all rushed to the front of the room. it was a ballroom. they all rushed to the front of the room. and when you did that, half the seats in the back were empty because everybody was standing in the front. we had a great time. the cnn reporter, absolutely horrible starts off saying oh, look, the room is half empty. the room wasn't half empty. everybody was standing next to me in the front of the room. >> make no mistake, everything you heard donald trump say is wrong. here again, is randi kaye. >> i just am excited about seeing him in person.

>> the enthusiasm was there but turnout was not. we arrived capacity 1500, about 90 minutes before the scheduled start time of 2:00 p.m. and 30 minutes before the speech was to begin, the hall still looked like this more than one-third empty. >> randi kaye with cnn. when trump arrived, he was happy to see us. >> where is cnn? come here cnn. >> reporter: but that happiness turned into something else entirely this morning after he saw our report last night noting the room was only about two-thirds full. it had hundreds of empty seats. listen to him on cnn's "new day". >> your reporter in north carolina is absolutely terrible. i made a speech to the african american chamber of commerce, in south carolina, wonderful people. the room was full. every seat was full. >> every seat full? not so much.

this picture was taken while mr. trump was speaking. here is video around the same time. notice he's on stage. and notice the many empty seats in the back of the room. again, mr. trump. >> when i went to the stage, everybody rushed forward. they all rushed to the front of the room. it was a ballroom. they all rushed to the front of the room and when they did that, you had half of the seats in the back were empty because everybody was standing in the front. >> reporter: for the record, not everyone was standing and the empty seats were empty because they were never occupied. we weren't the only ones that noticed. this new york times headlines reads a day of empty seats and donald trump in full attack. the washington post headline, donald trump says he didn't speak to a half empty room but he did. the post writer phillip bump noted trump's comments about our reporting, then fact checked it posting this photo from the associated press, notice all the empty seats?

trump is at the podium. the post noted this one, too. some people standing, most not. the post summed it up this way, cnn's assessment appears to have been the correct one. we also pointed out the event was sponsored by the south carolina african american chamber of commerce, but the crowd was overwhelmingly white, with only a handful of african-americans. but on cnn's "new day" donald trump denied that, too. >> many african americans and many white people, too. >> reporter: here is another angle. note the ethnicity and yet another angle. in television, pictures tell the story. especially this story. >> and randi kaye joins us now. and just to be clear, as i remember last night, you talked about a second event he went to that was better attended, correct. >> it absolutely was but this one not so much, anderson. >> okay. this polling this trump keeps quoting that has him doing so

well with african american voters, what about that? >> the poll he talks about shows him with 25% support. he talked about it yesterday at the event we were at and he says that is a huge number. and it is. the trouble is anderson, this poll he's quoting and keeps quoting is not one that cnn's polling unit thinks is reliable. i'm told this particular poll used a sample size that is a very small subset of african americans so the estimates are considered to be unreliable. in fact, anderson, other polls with larger more robust samples have found trump is decidedly unpopular with the group. for example, after trump kept touting that poll, we looked at the gallup poll for that month, and that poll showed just 16% of african-americans had a favorable view of donald trump. and you can compare that to 72% who said they had an unfavorable

view, but trump never mentions that poll no matter how much time he talks about his support among african-americans, anderson. >> all right. joining me now is former rnc official and new york times charles blow and also cnn political commentator jeffrey lord. jeffrey, what about this, if trump is going to portray himself as a guy that tells it like it is and speaks the truth no matter what, then shouldn't he speak the truth? i've never heard somebody as obsessed with talking about numbers and ratings and seems like this one wasn't as well attended. >> when i learned what we would talked about tonight, i went back and looked. i did an interview with donald trump over a year ago and one of the things i asked him is along the lines that republicans keep thinking their candidates are

treated badly by the media. if he were the candidate, how would he deal with that? and i brought along the transcript here. i'll read a couple lines. he says one thing you have to do is inform the public. the public has to know about the dishonesty of the press because these are bad people and don't tell the truth and have no intention of telling the truth and i would expose them 100%. you got to fight them, you got to fight them. in other words, what i'm suggesting here is this is his m.o., if you will. i think it also feeds into what we were talking about last night, you know, he's a fighter. he's trying to demonstrate this and he does it. it could be randi today, it could be "the new york times," it could be whomever, but this is what he does. this came up in context, by the way, also of the donald sterling situation where he felt he had been badly misquoted. >> look, i understand there is nothing more frustrating than

being misquoted. there is nothing more frustrating than having an inaccurate report having done about you and i'm all for that. everybody's right and everybody should do it and if you're wrong say you're wrong but in this case, i mean, "the washington post" and new york times, randi kaye, i mean, there is no reason randi wants to put out a report talking about the number of seats -- >> obviously -- >> charles -- >> different opinion. >> yes, yes, clearly no doubt about that. charles, does he play to his supporters this notion of being the agreed party, anti media -- aggrieved party, anti-media attack and look, there's plenty to attack, bias is a real issue. we think about and worry about and wring our hands about. but whether or not donald trump is accurate, i mean in this case, he doesn't seem to be accurate, does it not matter to

those people who are supporting him because it plays into that narrative of the media is out to get me? >> i think in this particular situation, this is a media creation. i believe my personal opinion is this entire candidacy is propertied up by free media time and so he can play both sides of that and that's his prerogative to play the victim of the media and ride the coat tails of the media. i think that the bigger problem is that the campaign made such a horrible decision about this meeting in south carolina as an out reach to african american s and doesn't work that way. in 2008, the number of african americans in the republican primary is so much below 1% it didn't register. in 2012 it was 1%. 98% of republican primary voters in north carolina are white. if you want to reach out to black people, go to a state where you have a bigger shot at attracting more people.

your hall will more likely be filled and you may have more people in your black event than white people. you could have done that by simply staying in new york city. 8% of the republican primary voters in 2012 in new york state were black. you have a larger chance of actually pulling off a great e event that has black representation in the place like new york rather than going to south carolina. it's a bad move by any republican candidate to go there and pull off a black event. >> tara, one thing for real estate magnet to embellish. i'm the best businessman around and trump embellishes things in that sense and always done it and you do it once or twice, people overlook it but in the realm of politics when you're

actually, you know, when what you say and selling yourself as a truth teller, as a guy that tells it like it is, doesn't it reach a point where people catch on or people start to wonder if what you're saying is just self-promotion and embellishment and what is true? >> one would hope. the things you listed, that could be subjective. biggest buildings, i'm the greatest and trump is good at that but with facts and trump tells you every seat was occupied and we have proof of that in the day in age of twitter and social media, you have folks that are on the ground besides the reporters who can take those photographs, who can make comments, who are there at the same time have and have nothing to do with the media.

multiple sources of information that can prove something to be true or not true. so trump continuing to do this, telling people that the sky is orange when we know it's blue just because he says so and blaming the weather man because there is a conspiracy is going to wear thin and i think that if he continues to attack the media like this, the media is an easy target, right? we already know that the media doesn't poll well. people are suspicious of media, big media so he's been using that to his advantage and i think you brought that up earlier but at some point that becomes tire some. that's why fox news is over it and he's attacking anyone that has any kind of report of things that aren't favorable to trump attacks them and that's awfully thin-skinned.

>> what is interesting about it -- >> i don't see him fighting and taking it on the chin when he needs to and standing up which god forbid you criticize him. >> i got it. what is interesting to me is maybe this is a small event, it's understandable maybe not all the seats will be full and yet by him making it into something else, he makes it into a bigger thing than it really should be. again, he had a much bigger event the same day and huge events leading the polls. appreciate you-all. a deadly day, very serious day of the islamic pilgrimage. 700 people killed. we'll get an update next. what do a nascar® driver... a comedian...

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there's a lot more happening tonight. randi kaye is back with a 360 bulletin. >> hundreds were injured in a stampede. it's the worst disaster of this kind in 25 years. a busy bridge in seattle became a bloody triage scene after a tour bus and a duck boat collided. four were killed, dozens were hospitalized. president obama and russian president vladimir putin will met in new york next week during united nations general assembly. in san antonio, texas, the assistant coach accused of telling a player to tackle him. they said the official used racial slurs and the ref denies those accusations. anderss andersson?

>> thanks very much for that. you may notice that pope francis was carrying a bag as he boarded a plane today in washington. up next, we can end the mystery and tell you what it was he was carrying. bring us your aching and sleep deprived. bring us those who want to feel well rested. aleve pm. the only one to combine a safe sleep aid... plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. be a morning person again with aleve pm.

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voting yes on "d" is so helpful to so many families in our city. outside st. patrick's cathedral. pope francis has a very big day tomorrow. quite a few people have been asking, what is in the bag he carries? an electric razor, a prayer

book, novelty rose sear beads and a tooth brush. cnn with don lemon starts now. such a remarkable day today as we follow the pope from the halls of congress, anderson, to the streets of new york. i was watching you and wolf. you were very excited. the he made note of how excited you were. what was the most memorable for you? >> certainly, seeing him in person when he would turn around as you are showing the

individual crow right there. i was hitting wolf. it was like, wolf, stop looking at the monitor. turn around and look at the pope for goodness sakes. there was a moment after he spoke in st. patrick's when he was leaving st. patrick's cathedral. there were two elderly ladies who i don't think were able to get up. in this huge crowd, he could have walked right by. he zeroed in on them and bent down so he was at their eye level. he spoke to them. i don't know what he said. the smiles on their faces were just beaming. he took the time with the entire world watching and thousands of people waiting and tens of thousands of people waiting on the streets that he took the

time to speak to these two ladies and made no doubt such an impression on them. that made a huge impression on me. i just found it an incredibly touching, touching moment. >> i remember covering him in st. louis. in the middle of my life show, as he was going by, my voice started going higher and higher. it was the actual pope coming. the city feels different. maybe it is the traffic but it really does feel different. we will be out there covering it tomorrow. it is going to be an extraordinary day ahead tomorrow, isn't it? >> yes. to be down at ground zero for an inter-faith service that he is going to be at, that is going to be an extraordinary moment. that, for me, will certainly be the thing i'll look forward to the most tomorrow. meeting with the families and others affected by 9/11 as so many were. >> see you bright and early. my end time is 6:00 a.m. see you tomorrow, anderson. i want to bring in "new york times" columnist, frank bruney here with me, father edward beck, cnn religion commentator. it really is and was a monumental day for catholics and lawmakers and americans every we are. we have seen a few public addresses from this pope since he arrived. what do you see the theme emerging here? >> well, i was amazed today, don, by his speech at congress. i didn't expect any of that.

the people that he named as the heroes and role models. to start with lincoln and martin luther king and dorothy day and thomas merton. most catholics or practicing catholics know who those luminaries are. a woman like dorothy day, who started the catholic worker movement who sheltered the homeless, fed the hungry, a woman who had an abortion and was ostracized from the church. a radical activist. this is who the pope is naming. thomas merton, a political activist, because he had a certain alliance with eastern religions. people thought, how can a roman catholic priest be buddhist as well? he was suspect. these are the people he was naming. people said, was it a political speech today? you are darn right it was political. he knew it was political. he gave a homily and said, catholics need to meddle into politics. today, this pope meddled in politics. >> frank, you covered the pope for the "times" for a while. do you think it was because he is being criticized from the right saying, oh, he is too left.

do you think he knows it is political? do you think he is a leftist? >> i don't know if i would call him a leftist. he knows when you are going to address congress. that's a political contest. that's a decision he makes. i was struck by all the things that father beck mentioned. i was also struck by something else, which was a message that transcendeded any party's politics. he mentioned high up in a speech common purpose or common need. i remember the word common several times. he mentioned cooperation. he talked about not casting the world in terms of enemies and allies. there was an equally powerful message that was get out of your partisan ship. you are stewards of the common good. you are in charge of a country that's bigger than any party and individual. think beyond yourself. look at the common good. >> is he any more or less

controversial than any other pope? >> it is hard to compare. john paul ii, was so frail and so sick, that all the things we see this pope doing, mingling in the crowd the way anderson was talking about, he couldn't do. pope benedict had no appetite for it. this pope by being much more in the mix by his two predecessors is naturally going to attract more commentary. >> he lobbied congress to abolish the death penalty but only said, very short about abortion, our responsibility to protect and defend human life at every stage of its development. why do you think that? >> i found that so interesting. he talked about the respect for life from conception or he said, really, at every stage of life. you think that would have been the time to say something about abortion. i think a lot sitting in that chamber would have loved to hear him say the word. right after that, he said, i think we should abolish the

death penalty universally, not just here in the united states. yes. he, of course, talks about abortion but he didn't mention it by name. he talked about the death penalty. again, this wouldn't be pleasing to some people on the right. they want him to name the right to life as abortion. this is the seamless approach. this is conception until death. if you unjustly kill someone. he would think capital punishment is always unjust. it is never acceptable and he said that today in congress. >> i am wondering how much. i see you shaking your head. i wonder how much influence he has. he brings up immigration and the refugee crisis in europe. many lawmakers. speaker boehner was clearly moved by the address. we are politically polarized.

how much actual influence does he have? >> on the specific issues, very, very little. you have heard the phrase cafeteria catholics. congress is going to behave like cafeteria catholics. see, you mentioned this. that's what i agree with. they are going to taste. john boehner considers himself a devout catholic and so does nancy pelosi. they will walk away from that address with different conclusions. i hope it was one of those moments where all of them hear a call to be bigger than themselves. that's something i hope everyone can walk away with and work with a little bit less animosity in the future. >> what about regular folks who are out there watching this. as i watch him enter st. patrick's, he spoke to a woman in the wheelchair. the regular people, they are

standing there behind you. clearly, they are ecstatic at this focus here. >> they are. >> there is a different feel in the city. sometimes in recent years as a priest, i would walk down the street and sometimes i would go like this. i would take it off because of all the church has gone through and people would look at you. i feel like, gee, i am going to have to start explaining about the sex abuse scandal. today, i walked down the street so proudly. everyone said, hello, father, hello, father and smiled. it was a different feel totally. this man, just like coming to this city has done that. i couldn't have been prouder today. i think the people standing behind me and the people that have lined these streets feel exactly the same way. >> how often does that happen? >> can i do within reality

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pope francis not shying away from hot button issues from immigration to the war on poverty to ending the death penalty. not the first time that faith has been front and center in american politics. listen to the man who became the country's first catholic president, john f. kennedy, 1960. >> i believe in an american that is officially not catholic, protestant or jewish, where no public official either requests or accepts instructions on public policy from the pope, the national council of churches or any other ecclesiastical source, where no religious body seeks to impose its will directly or indirectly upon the general populous or the public acts of its officials and where religious liberty is so indivisible that an act against one church is treated as an act against all. >> joining me now president kennedy's niece and robert kennedy's daughter, kerry

kennedy i want to ask you about some of the images today. the pope that addressed congress, standing on capitol hill in the balcony, fifth avenue in the popemobile, at st. patrick's this evening giving prayers. what a day to be a catholic. how does it feel to be a catholic in america? >> it just feels so great i have cried so many times with tears coming down my eyes. i was getting my makeup put on. the makeup artist was saying it right here. i think there is just so much feeling towards this man. it is because, you know, even though he addressed congress with all of these issues, he is ultimately talking to our spirit of humanity, talking to our commonality of finding jesus in each one of us. he is calling forth the best in

all. >> may i call you kerry? >> yes, please. >> what do you think your dad and uncle would say about this, kerry? >> i think they would be so happy to have this pope who is talking about poverty and hunger and said, i am not going to have lunch with the members of congress but i'm going to a homeless facility instead. that's what my family has stood for. that's what my father and uncle really devoted their entire lives to. i think they would be so incredibly happy. >> i'm sure you know well about the issues that your uncle faced being a catholic? >> yes, of course. what do you think he would think, even your father, think of the current situation of what it comes to the race for the white house and what is going on

with the pope politically? >> i think he would be delighted that he would see that things have changed, that now we have not only had a catholic president. we have a catholic vice-president. we have half a dozen supreme court justices that are catholic and a third of the congress is catholic. things have changed a lot from that from those days of skepticism. i think he would be so happy to see this pope in congress and confronting them on these basic justice issues, on the death penalty and immigration and refugees and the arms race. >> let's talk more about that. let's listen to him addressing congress. >> i am most grateful for your invitation to address this joint session of congress. in the land of the free and the

home of the brave. you are the face of its people, their representatives. you are called to defend and preserve the dignity of your fellow citizens in the tireless and demanding pursuit of the common good, for this is the chief aim of all politics. >> it almost doesn't seem real. this is a sea of dark suits and there he is in white. the first time a pope has addressed congress. john boehner, clearly moved. do you think his message will have an impact on capitol hill coming days, months? >> i think the most important part of his message in congress

was not necessarily on all those issues but of him saying, we have to stop looking at the world as good or eve. that is a stark contrast to the way many catholics were raised. he said, we have to come together and look for the common good. you know, i think that -- i hope that congress is able to really take that to heart. not only congress but all of us, all of us as americans and all of us across the world. >> i have to run, though. can you talk to me quickly and i am sorry to give it so short but about being a woman and women and what he says about women in his messages? >> his message today was so amazing, because the former pope, pope benedict, went on

this kind of assault of women, the nuns, and opened up two investigations against them. pope francis closed down both those investigations and said thank you you to women, religious. i am with you and i love you. what a contrast. >> and not just catholic women but just religious women all over it. >> what a pleasure? >> nice to see you. the day in trump. a war of words breaks out between donald trump and marco rubio. tonight, trump was wowed by one of the pope's visits today. he actually looked. there he is standing in the balcony to watch the pontiff motorcade on fifth avenue. trump himself got a bit of a different reception, though. take a look at these bbq best cracked pepper sauce... most ribs eaten while calf roping... yep, greatness deserves recognition. you got any trophies, cowboy? ♪ whoomp there it is

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now, for the day in trump. he leads the latest cnn poll of new hampshire republicans. trump has 26%. carly fiorina is second with 16%. marco rubio, third, 9%. ben carson, fourth, 8%.

joined by katy packer gauge and charles blow and scotty nel-hughes, news director of the tea party news network. hello, ladies and gentlemen. good to see all of you. gentleman, one of you. marco rubio has been flying under the radar. now, he is in third place and trading blows with donald trump. i want you to listen to what donald trump said this morning. marco rubio and donald trump going at it. >> marco rubio sits behind a desk sometimes and he reads stuff. he is in committees. that's all he does. i create jobs all day long. i'll know more about all of this than all of them put together. we'll have a winning strategy. if marco rubio is good, how come we are doing so badly? >> he is on the foreign relations committee. >> i am not in government. marco rubio, he is like a kid. he shouldn't be running in the

race. he is a kid. >> when the debate turned to policy, he stood silence for 23 minutes. that's why he had such a bad debate. that's why he is now reacting the way he is, continuing to criticize anyone that offends him. he is very thin-skinned. he can't have a conversation about policy, because, quite frankly, he doesn't know anything about policy. >> is this the latest shoving match or is trump vulnerable now? >> i think trump is vulnerable. i think he had a very poor performance at the debate last week. carly took it to him very hard. marco rubio had a great evening. carly had a great evening. donald trump sort of just shrunk into the background. we are probably going to see his support continuing to level off. it hasn't grown in the last several weeks or months. we are going to continue to see this sort of leveling off and recalibrating of this election until we see some more candidates begin to drop out.

i think you will see somebody else emerge to challenge him. he is soft on this issue of providing detail and specifics on his plans. to suggest that marco rubio is a kid is ridiculous. he is a 44-year-old adult in the u.s. senate and certainly has every right to be there. >> it is not the first time i have heard people say marco rubio looks really young. >> he may look young but he is not a kid. >> you disagree with all of this, don't you, scotty? do you think that donald trump is weak on national security as marco rubio says? >> absolutely not. none of these guys have put forward plans. you are not talking about it. it doesn't mean that donald trump doesn't have it or mr. trump doesn't. none of them put it out. jeb bush put his economic plan out two weeks ago. you can't name two or three points. rand paul, a month ago. everything mr. trump is doing is calculated. to sit there and say he had a bad debate night.

he still ranks second in most polls. he is not a politician. he doesn't have a ton of consultants like yourself being paid to coach him what to say to the american people. he is talking from his heart and from his knowledge. that's refreshing. >> if that's all the knowledge he has -- >> because he doesn't have a bunch of consultants that are paying him to say stuff. >> he doesn't have specifics or a plan. >> none of them do and he does. >> charles, you and i will just sit here. >> i love this. that intro and those trumpets. i'm having a fantastic time. >> come on in. the water is warm. >> listen, charles. trump is now saying he doesn't want to talk too much about national security, because he doesn't want to give anything away to the enemy. does that make sense? >> in a campaign, forgetting about him, which is what i try to do as much as i can. in general, candidates do have to provide details, right. at a certain point, people come to expect that. you are early enough in the political season that a lot of his supporters are built up by him getting a tremendous amount

of news coverage, disproportionate to what he is actually doing and saying. that actually has helped his name recognition and his results of the standing in the polls. once you get closer to actual primaries and caucuses, you get to the point where people want to hear more. you kind of see them in an international light particularly on the issues of foreign policy. you want to know that the rest of the world looks at the candidate that you like and they respect that person. >> hold on. >> bush is down to 7% in new hampshire. i want you to listen, charles, to his response when asked about trump using visas to fill low wage jobs at marlargo. >> he is a hypocrite. >> today, the pope made some. >> that's it. i don't know what else i can add to that. that's pretty direct and to the point. it's not like the debate where you are asked to have a 60-second answer and you are supposed to fill it no matter what.

he is a hypocrite. >> do you think he can recover? >> first of all, i think you have to look at the broader spectrum when it comes to candidates like bush. you have to look at how much money they have and how much you believe they can continue to raise. that determines how much longer they will be able to stay in the race. you also have to look at how much establishment sorts of forces want candidates like jeb bush to stay in the race. i think that has a big bearing on it and who the superpacs will get behind. there is no indication yet that

they have necessarily settled on who they will get behind. you have the koch brothers out there saying they are going to spend $900 million. that is a lot of money. whoever they decide to get behind, that person has a huge advantage going in. you can't know who that is at this point. >> stand by, everyone. we are going to talk about the pope coming up and if he is the most politicized pope in history. talking about his address and what he means for politics here in the u.s. coming up.

the pope did not sidestep controversy in his address to congress. will his visit have an influence on american politics? back with me now is katy packer gauge, charles blow, scottie nell hughes. >> front and center from our public life from kim davis to planned parenthood to trump and carsons comments on muslims and add in the pope's visit. it is a huge part of our

political discourse right now. >> i think religion in general. i think that this pope did something that is contrary to the way we are discussing religion in america, which is to have a more my opic view of what religions are valid than not. i was more moved by the speech he gave. i don't know what the proper name is for it. the speech he gave in new york here tonight at church where he opened by talking about the 700 muslims that were killed in the hajj. the idea of reaching across religions and not necessarily saying this is a good religion. this is a bad one. we are all human beings. i have sympathy for anybody regardless of what religion they are. i think that is a very different tone than the tone we have in our politics in this country right now where people are talking in the most negative terms about muslim-americans. >> it is interesting. he is going to hallowed ground

tomorrow, going down to the site of the world trade center. i think muslims an everyone will be paying attention to what he says there. >> here is the problem that we have with this. no disrespect to the pope. i'm glad for what he stands for. the question is, if he would have come in and said, listen, you guys do need to have security on your border, you guys need to make sure you provide general welfare but be responsible. if he wasn't so progressive with his wealth distribution, would he still be getting this red carpet president obama? >> why do i hear people saying that? >> listen. i'm a christian. i went to catholic school. i happen to be protestant. the pope is saying exactly what is in the bible. the rich shall help the poor. that everyone should be invited

in. how has that become a political term? why would you want the pope to speak as a politician? he is not speaking as a politician. he is speaking the text that's in the bible and all of the sudden, that has become political. >> i must have missed the chapter. >> is that because you disagree with what he is saying or what's in the bible? >> the chapter about global warming, don, to be honest with you. >> the bible doesn't say you should protect and honor the earth, mother nature? >> sitting there and talking about global warming and that being one of his big things. he goes down to cuba. you don't hear him give this same speech about taking care of others and we need to be peaceful down there. i don't know what he said down there. i guarantee it wasn't the same speech he delivered to congress right there talking about the

death penalty and yet missing the chance to talk about life on the same day they are voting on the planned parenthood amendment. >> he picked and chose proponents of policy that is going on in america. he is talking about opening up the immigration walls. the vaticans has one of the strongest walls possible. i haven't seen the refugees being brought into the vatican yet. that's why a lot of people are frustrated. >> i think there is a lot all of us can learn from this pope. i think we have seen somebody that's come down from on high. previous papal visits, they haven't had this kind of contact with the public. i think he is somebody that has shown an interest in getting together with the people that are most in need of spiritual healing. i think there were some missed opportunities for him to talk

about life. the rich have to give to the government first and let the government give to the poor. i think the bible that i have read talks about people giving directly to the poor. it is not really a government program that's being advocated. >> it also says the lord helps those that help themselves. >> does the vatican have an immigration problem, charles? >> that's the first i have ever heard of that. >> they were taking that in. the vatican is not like the you states. the pope did make the point of saying the vatican would be taking in two or three families from the syrian refugee crisis. >> they are a big place. they can handle more than three families. >> i don't know who did. he did make the point of saying that. he went further to say that churches across europe should kind of commit themselves to taking in one family. the idea of being benevolent is a good one. >> everyone is weighing in. today, i sat down with actress, ashley judd, star of the new movie, big stone gap. she told me what she thinks of donald trump. >> donald trump is an

interesting character. he has always been very kind to me. what i've learned and i probably do it clumsily most of the time. i can stand for myself and what i believe in without standing against another person. it is how do i act on principle and leave the personalities out of it. i think that's what we have swapped around right now in our political and national conversation. it is about the personalities and not the principles. >> we come right back. ashley's co-star in the new movie, whoopi goldberg also has a lot to say about the candidates and the pope's historic visit. t11 intelligent driver-assist systems. it recognizes pedestrians and alerts you. warns you about incoming cross-traffic. cameras and radar detect dangers you don't. and it can even stop by itself. so in this crash test, one thing's missing:

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doing and saying? >> this is the first time since probably john the xxiii that i have been reinterested and reinvigorated, because this guy, you know, he read the book. he gets it. he remembers what this is all about. to catholics, he is the direct connection to god. so if he says, listen, i don't think you need to be obsessed with gay people. i don't think that's what we need to be thinking about. i think we need to be thinking about how do we make our church better? how do we make our church more inclusive? he said, you know, quit hurting women's feelings about having gotten an abortion. i don't want women to get abortions but i understand why they do. >> i heard you mention that about abortion. you said, there is nothing about the bible in the abortion. someone would challenge you and say, what about thou shall not kill.

>> well, if that's the tactic we are going to take, we have to be pissed at every war and all the things we do. now, no one goes into getting an abortion like it is a party. you know what i mean? this is a hard decision for 97% of the women in the world to make. so you shouldn't be beating them up, because they have had to make this terrible decision. it is no the your business. it is not your business that they had to make the decision. because, you know, i believe everybody is entitled to their religious beliefs. the lady down in kentucky, she is absolutely entitled to her belief. if you are a federal worker and you took this job, you don't get to say i'm not going to do it because of my religious beliefs.

in the '60s and '70s, they said, i'm not going to give you the right to vote. i am not going to sign you up because i don't think you are supposed to. we make these laws to protect everybody. >> even today, you are talking about carly fiorina, she is almost at the top. she was in south carolina visiting a pregnancy center. she criticized planned parenthood. she has criticized planned parenthood a lot. >> i wish she and trump and all the other republicans would get their facts straight. you want a fight on this. get your facts straight. don't make up stories about seeing a video that isn't real. it is not a real video. >> you called donald trump out on it. the real video. >> it was stock footage. it wasn't part of a planned parenthood film. >> you have criticized donald trump saying, you need to get your facts straight.

>> you know what, more women use planned parenthood for their health care than anything else. abortion actually is down in this country from what it was. also, women are not having as many abortions. there is a lot of things happening and to pretend that planned parenthood is still this specter is terrible. again, i understand you don't think it is a good thing. nowhere in the law does it say you have to have one. you have the right to choose to have one. i like that. don't take my right if i need one because of your religious beliefs. i can't see that being right. >> what do you think of all of these, the people who are not traditional politicians like ben carson who said things about

muslims, like -- >> you no he what. i don't know when this ability for people to just say, dumb. can you beat me? >> yes. >> i don't know when people say dumb [ bleep ] and dumb racist [ bleep ]. it used to be you thought before you said something like that. suddenly now everybody feels like it is okay. i guess when obama came in, folks thought all the gloves were off. here is what is p.c. it is only p.c. if you can't do it. if i don't want you making jokes about my people, you tell me i'm

too p.c. but you have had the right to make those jokes all the time. you can make them. there are consequences now. there weren't consequences before. >> why are these people so popular, like trump, carson? they are not traditional politicians. >> why was sarah palin palin? why was michele bachmann popular? who knows. it is like zero coke or no zero coke. some of it sticks. some of it doesn't. >> i really want to talk about this movie. it seems like a traditional movie, good, old-fashioned movie. it is beautifully shot. tell me about it. why were you drawn to do this? >> listen, adriana tajani, who is the director and the author of the book "big stone gap" said to me, 12, 13 years ago, i sent you the book. i hope you love it. i want you to play this part. i don't have any money to make the movie yet but when i do, i want you to play the part. one day, adriana came over and said, guess what, girl? i got the movie. i said, you do?

>> she said, yes. still, you want me? >> she said, i want you. we went and shot in big stone gap. >> what was it like shooting in that part of the country? >> it was kind of wonderful. it was hard to see, because it is a state that used to thrive a lot on coal mining. when that disappeared, you know, it really killed the economy of so many of these small towns that were mining towns. it was wonderful to see people doing what they had to be doing and teachers doing amazing things, kids not having enough to eat. teachers are going out and going above and beyond to take care of the kids.

i mean, it was heaven. it was an eye-opening experience. >> a star-studded cast? >> yes, yes. >> what was that like, because not only a star-studded cast. it is a period piece. since 1978, correct? you got that big afro. >> and those glasses. >> did you go back to the '70s? >> yeah. you know, yeah. >> you lived it? >> i did live it. i lived the '60s. i lived the later '50s. i have been living it all. i like this character, because she is kind of curmudgeonly. she loves her down and she loves her friends. i like that. >> the movie is called big stone gap. i love you, whoopi. >> i love you, don. thank you, baby. >> whoopi, i apologize, we were supposed to put your book in there that comes out in october as well and your docuseries. i apologize. we will get it on the air, i promise you. >> it is season premier time here in television. two big series returning last night, empire on fox and

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block in both body and soul. that's why he is this week's cnn hero. >> camida is a community with poverty. it is a rural area. also, a food desert that did not have access to fresh, affordable food. i've been the pastor here 12 years. early on, i was spending more time in funerals than anything else. diabetes, high blood pressure, unhealthy lifestyles. i had to do something. >> if you take what you have, god can transform your health situation, your food desert situation. i could not grow food by myself. i had to come through the community. all right. come on, guys.

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morning with live coverage of the pope's first full day in new york and then we'll have all the highlights for you right here tomorrow night at 10:00. our live coverage continues now with natalie allen at the cnn center in atlanta. pilgrims are now returning to their holy rituals after more than 700 die during a stampede at the hajj. pope francis is in new york. the holy father lands in the city after preaching compassion before u.s. lawmakers in washington. and chinese president xi jinping arrives in washington, where tense talks are ahead with president obama. cybercrime one of their top issues. and welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. you're watching "cnn newsroom." i'm natalie allen.

thank you for joining us. we begin this hour in new york city where pope francis will speak to the u.n. general assembly and visit the 9/11 memorial museum in the coming hours. new york is the pope's second stop on his six-day tour of the united states. on thursday, he received an enthusiastic welcome in america's largest city. throngs of people, thousands lined up along manhattan's famous fifth avenue to greet pope francis as he rode inside the popemobile. he then led an evening service at the newly renovated st. patrick's cathedral. he began by offering prayers to the victims of the mecca stampede. >> translator: in this moment i give assurances of my prayers. >> before arriving in new york, the pope delivered a powerful

address to a rare joint meeting of the u.s. congress in washington. at one point, he paid homage to u.s. civil rights leader martin luther king jr. >> that dream continues to inspire us all. and i am happy that america continues to be for many a land of dreams. [ applause ] >> the pope also urged congress to focus on fighting poverty and to promote a fairer world economy. >> the fight against poverty and hunger must be fought constantly, and on many fronts, especially in the east coast. i no many americans today have

seen their to deal with this problem. it goes with all the saying that part of this great effort is the creation and distribution of wealth. >> pope francis also urged lawmakers to take action on key issues he holds dear, like immigration and climate change. cnn's dana bash is in washington with more on the pope's speech and how it was received by congress. >> mr. speaker, the pope of the holy see. >> reporter: never before uttered in history to introduce a figure who came to prod this partisan institution to work together.

>> cooperating generously for the common good. >> reporter: citing beloved american figures like abraham lincoln and martin luther king, pope francis reminded lawmakers of the country's past at its promise. >> as the son of immigrants, knowing that so many of you are also descendants from immigrants. >> reporter: eliciting emotion, even on politically divisive issues like immigration. >> thousands of persons are led to travel north in search of a better life. >> reporter: francis delivered his signature caution about capitalism and warnings about climate change that made some republicans uncomfortable. >> and so the most serious effects of the environmental deterioration caused by human activity. >> reporter: liberals like presidential hopeful bernie sanders were ecstatic. >> the issue of poverty, the

issue of environmental degradation, immigration, the death penalty, the need to do everything we can to create a peaceful world. and i think he did it in a very dignified, nonpartisan type way. >> reporter: still, the pope also mentioned church stances republicans traditionally agree with, like opposition to abortion. >> to protect and defend human life at every stage of its development. >> reporter: francis, a student of politics, had the usually unruly chamber hooked from the start with this. >> in the land of the free and the home of the brave. >> reporter: that even brought four supreme court justices who almost never clap during political addresses to their feet. in fact, even catholics like senator mike rounds who pressed colleagues to treat the speech like a sermon, no clapping, couldn't help themselves. >> we found ourselves saying look, we're agreeing with what

the pontiff is saying. and so we found ourselves standing up and sit do you think more than what we had anticipated. >> your holiness, welcome. >> reporter: the house was invited by house speaker john boehner, a catholic who has been trying to get a pope to speak to congress for 20 years. the man known for being emotional, couldn't hold back his tears. >> and god bless america. especially on his own capitol balcony with the pope look down at thousands below. >> well, earlier i spoke with a parish priest who is from west virginia, father chapin. he attended the pope's speech in washington. he says the pope was not being political when he talked about things like climate change and immigration. >> they call it a political issue. but, you know, when you're talking about climate change or immigration or what are you talking about, poverty, these types of things. but it's not a political statement. it's a human statement, you know.

we're called for stewardship in this world and the people that live in it. >> let's break down the issues that he has highlighted. let's start with climate change, because he discussed that yesterday. and he talked about it in front of congress today. >> yes. >> and encouraged congress to vote through environmental legislation. when he first came out as a passionate person behind climate change a few months ago, the hope was that it would trickle down to the masses and throughout churches, throughout this world. do you think that message is being taken out the way he had planned? >> i'm not quite sure. with the whole climate change issue, because i'm not a scientist, and i'm not going to go against the boss. but i will say that it is a very, very divisive issue. you have passionate people on both sides. both absolutely convinced that they are right. and we have an inability in this world to dialogue with each

other without, well, getting all upset about it. and i think that hopefully pope francis is showing us that we might not necessarily bring on an issue. but we can still talk about it. >> there have been people of other faiths that have talked about it since he has been here. and using the message that this is god's earth he gave to us, and despite where you fall on climate change, what's wrong with protecting it? what is your response to that? >> i would agree that it is our responsibility to take care as best we can of this world. and the people in it. absolutely. yes, i would. >> and i want to talk with you about the fact that he did, really talked about immigration and said that people traveling north on this continent are looking for a better life, like so many of our parents and grandparents did. that's why we are here. so that was something very important to him. he asked that the two sides in

congress move away from gridlock. and as soon as he stopped talking, sadly, they moved right back into their gridlocked ways. >> certainly. >> the question is how much of the pope's words and messages will really resonate after he is gone? and how much of this is just the pageantry of the pope? >> you know, that's a good question. it's a good question. we should keep in mind that joseph and mary were immigrants and homeless. you never know. you never know who you're entertaining. you know, i hope it makes a difference. i really do. but only time will tell. but i think the idea of bringing up the conversation is amazing. at least he puts the whole issue in the forefront. and it needs to be. >> and we turn now to saudi arabia where more than 700 people are dead in a stampede near the muslim holy city of mecca. live video here for you as an estimated hundreds of thousands

of people continue to go to the hajj. they're wrapping up their final day of the hajj. more than two million were expected to make the pilgrimage this year. it was just about this time thursday that the crush happened. iran, which lost at least 131 citizens, is blasting saudi arabia over the disaster. the country's supreme leader has declared three days of national mourning in iran. the crush happened during a hajj ritual known as the stoning of the devil. hala gorani has more now. we want to warn you, the video is graphic. >> reporter: pilgrims, hundreds of them lie lifeless in the streets. this is the horrific aftermath of thursday morning's stampede in mina, just outside the holy city of mecca.

they were walking together when there was a sudden surge in the crowd. people fell and were crushed. one pilgrim described how rescue workers spent hours trying to help the hundreds of injured. >> i saw the ambulances, bodies. a helicopter landing. at least 20, 30 ambulances passed me by. ever since i arrive, the sound of the sirens hasn't stopped. >> reporter: the stampede happened during a ritual known as the stoning of the devil. world leaders extended their condolences. >> i would like to join the general assembly in expressing my condolences to many hundreds of people who died. and i sincerely hope that under the leadership of saudi arabia, there will be immediate necessary assistance for those people. >> reporter: it's not the first time lives have been lost during the hajj, which attract morse than two million muslims each year, and is considered one of the five pillars of islam. over the years, hundreds of people have been killed because

of overcrowding. in 2006, another stampede killed at least 363 pilgrims, prompting the saudi government to make the area safer. those improvements, though, failed to prevent thursday's tragedy. hala gorani, cnn, london. we want to talk now with jamal kashugi with el arab tv. he joins us on the line. thank you for talking with us. it's so sad to hear so many people died during such a solemn event and in such a horrific way. it has happened before. what do you know about what triggered this stampede this time? >> it's really sad. it happened about 24 hours or before with the sunrise in mina. it is the most difficult day for all the security to move around. more than 2.5 million hajis

pilgrims out of their tents, out of their camps, into two locations. the second location is the grand mosque, and then bring them back. so you are talking about organizing the movement of huge masses. so the saudi government, through this experience and over the years have developed a very complicated system that involves the security people involved with its rival agents to protect regiments of the pilgrims which compromise the thousands. they go in a certain time of the day. they have to move in a certain direction, come back through a certain street. if any misstep happens, if a group make the wrong turn, that will cause a disaster. and that's exactly what happened yesterday. the government promised an

investigation is going to be thoroughly about it and announce it soon. that mistake and the hajis will refuse according to the minister of health to defy the order of police and went in their own directions from a street to another or the traffic, that is still under the investigation. >> right. but couldn't they have made a mistake? this is their first time here. there is so many people. it is unbearably hot. it was 100 degrees fahrenheit during this time. and some reports indicate that the people that got caught up in this were pretty much on their own, that there was no one there to help them. what do you know than? >> well, it was a big number of different nationalities, all led in one area.

and of course they cannot be on their own because it is a very crowded place. while the hajj is experienced by saudi arabian authority over the years, it's a new experience for many hajis themselves. and many leaders of the hajj themselves. it's often that many of the hajjs do not follow any instruions through security. and they could go in their own or like to take a shortcut. and that often leads to such a situation. but the authorities rushed into the locations in a few minutes and start taking the hajis away from that location and blockading the area to make sure that no more pilgrims move and

get more crowds. so the incident was very much controlled. but you just can't imagine the huge masses who move into those two locations. >> yes. >> in a short period of time. >> yes, we can see that. we always see the video. and you wonder how does it work in this time it just tragically did not. journalist, thank you, jamal khashoggi, thanks so much for talking with us. we turn now to disaster in the u.s. state of washington on the west coast. four international students are dead after a tour bus collided with another tour vehicle in washington state. dozens of people were hospitalized. two remain in critical condition. it was a horrific scene on this bridge, as you can see in downtown seattle. the bus collided with a popular tourist bus called a duck boat vehicle from city streets.

the duck boats can roll and float on water. the national transportation safety board is sending a team to investigate the crash. no one is sure how it happened. well, with a number of recent strains on their relations, china's president arrives in washington for talks with president obama. next here we'll tell you what is topping the agenda. we'll have a live report from beijing for you. plus, from mexico, kidnapping, ransom, and the worst possible outcome. the father and brother of a prominent movie director whose married to a former miss usa are found murdered. we'll have that. ♪

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welcome back. you're watching cnn newsroom. live coverage here on cnn. i'm natalie allen. japan's sports minister is resigning over plans for the national stadium for the tokyo 2020 olympics. the minister is a close ally of prime minister shinzo abe. he says mr. abe asked him to stay on until a cabinet reshuffle next month. in july, mr. abe said the stadium would be scrapped

because the cost had soared to more than $2 billion. that's nearly twice the original estimate. the minister had this to say about his salary for the project. >> translator: the first time i received word regarding the possibility of the stadium's cost blow-out and construction delay was in april. which is why i have decided to return the six months worth of pay that i received from that day onward. >> well, the stadium was also meant to be the centerpiece for the 2019 world cup. we turn now to china, the chinese president is in washington for talks and a state dinner with president obama. that's the president greeting the chinese premier there. this visit comes as a number of issues have strained relations between the two countries. cybersecurity expected to top the agenda at thursday night's

working dinner. later today, mr. xi is expected to announce a program to cap carbon emissions of chinese companies. so the two have some commonalities as far as issues that they are connected on and issues such as cybersecurity not so much. sim mohsen is following this from beijing. i don't know if they would call them frenemies or their relationship is a notch above that certainly they have some tense issues on the table. >> reporter: yeah, a lot of issues to talk about. and it's in these private dinners and these private meetings, natalie, between president xi jinping and president obama that they are often a lot of headway made. that's what we hear. rather than the wider bilateral talks. so we hear there is a lot of headway that can be made, but will there be? the cybercrime issue that you brought up, it's a really touchy subject. we heard susan rice stopping

that this must stop. president obama saying you want to make it a competition? we will win it. president xi jinping came with a more conciliatory tone earlier this week saying china is not responsible. there is no state sponsored hacking going on, and it wants to help address that. let's see if anything comes of that. natalie? >> yes, we will. and what about climate change? because that is an issue, contentious in many parts of the united states as far as republicans and democrats duelling over. but these two leaders came together on that issue. >> yeah, a complete contrast with climate change, natalie. the china is expected to make a joint announcement with president obama tomorrow after their bilateral talks friday. on climate change. they're going to announce a cap and trade system. basically, that caps the level of carbon emissions. it allots various companies an

equal number of permits. if one company is emitting more, they will need to buy permits. so effectively, it's like paying a penalty. they'll buy them from companies who aren't eemitting so much, which will be making money from the companies buying them off them. so there is kind of an incentive scheme there as well to reduce your emissions. and that's the big announcement that we're going to be expect on friday when the two leaders meet then. natalie? >> all right. and all that of will be followed by a state dinner we'll be hearing more about as well there at the white house. thank you so much, saima mohsin live in beijing. this out of mexico. the father and brother of one of mexico's best film directors have been found dead after being kidnapped and held for ransom. it happened in an eastern coastal state where this kind of violence happens all too often. cnn's rafael romo reports for us from mexico city. >> reporter: according to mexican authorities, the victims were kidnapped on september 4th. the family waited for two weeks

for their return, and even paid ransom, according to mexican media. then they got the tragic news. a father-son moment shared on instagram. kind words on their minds. alejandro monteverde calling his father his best friend, his mentor and the wisest man he knows that was nine months ago. now the sweet snapshot taking on a somber meaning. this weekend the bodies of his kidnapped father and brother were found in pueblo viejo, mexico, a tiny town on the border between tamaulipas. they had been dead for several days. the attorney general says they were discovered saturday night, more than two weeks after being abducted while leaving their home in tamalpais. the family paid a ransom. police have also found the car

they believe is connected to kidnappers. it has tamalpais plates. the region, which borders the united states is among the most violent in mexico, thanks to ongoing disputes between rival gangs over lucrative drug trafficking routes, though it's not yet clear if gangs or cartels are involved. monteverde is married to alli landry, an actress, model and former miss usa. he recently directed little boy. the actor shared his condolences on twitter, requesting players for his friend. the u.s. state department issued a travel warning wednesday, saying kidnappings in mexico appear to be on the rise. tamaulipas has the highest number of kidnappings in the country. rafael romo, cnn, mexico city. pope francis brought a group of nuns to their feet in new york thursday. why he says they are crucial to the catholic church. we'll have that for you next

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and welcome back to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm natalie allen. you are watching "cnn newsroom." here are our top stories. the king of saudi arabia promises a speedy investigation into the deadliest tragedy at the hajj in 25 years. at least 717 people were killed in a stampede near the holy city of mecca. it happened during a ritual known as the stoning of the devil.

chinese president xi jinping received a cordial welcome at the white house thursday ahead of what are expected to be tough discussions on cybersecurity. the white house is threatening sanctions against chinese hackers, allegedly stealing intellectual property. four international students were killed in washington state after a tour bus and a duck boat tourist vehicle collided. it happened on a highway near downtown seattle. dos of people were hospitalized. two of them remain in critical condition. pope francis had high praise for the women of the catholic church when he visited st. patrick's cathedral in new york thursday. the pope told a group of nuns he loves them very much, and he thanked them for their courage. francis' evening prayers at the cathedral capped a busy day. thursday morning he addressed congress back in washington, where he touched on two hot button topics in the u.s., climate change and immigration.

>> i call for a courageous and responsible effort to redirect our steps so that the most serious effects of the environmental deterioration caused by human activity. i am convinced that we can make a difference i'm sure. >> i say this to you as the son of immigrants. knowing that so many of you are also descendants of immigrants. logically the rights of those who were here long before us were not always respected.

>> well, later today, the pope will speak at the united nations and, and we'll bring that you here at cnn. pope francis spent the night at a multimillion-dollar home in new york, but as miguel marquez reports, the catholic leader doesn't need much to be comfortable. >> reporter: it's where pontiffs have laid their papal heads when visiting the big apple for nearly 40 years. >> for this pope to visit the united states for the first time and cuba, i think that really means a lot to him. >> reporter: archbishop auza will host the pope at the official home in new york. in church speak it's called the apostolic nunciature for the permanent observer to the mission of the holy see to the united nations. a big title, but for this pope it will be a simple affair. >> dinner and lunch breakfast will be very simple, no red meat. >> all fine for a pope who

shunned the papal apartments in rome for the more humble guest house. the "new york times" reports pope francis has only asked for water and bananas in his room during the stay. the home is 11,000 square feet located on manhattan's upper east side, valued at around $20 million. it was given to the church in 1975 by the family of former new york city mayor hugh grant. gran sis will be the third pope to stay. >> that's where pope john paul ii stayed in '79, his visit in '95. and again when pope benedict came in 2008. >> reporter: pope john pauli i dedicated the building, even shaking hands with hugh grant jr., the son of the new york mayor who owned the house, grant grew up in the home. >> the house was completed in 1894. >> reporter: regis high school also founded by the grant family

made this video, the pope's home away from rome for francis' visit. those who have been inside the residence say it is modest by new york standards. even the bedroom where the pope will sleep is described as basically a room. it does come with its own chapel. >> in 1914, mrs. grant had a private chapel built in the residence, naming it the chapel of the holy spirit. >> reporter: after two nights in new york, the pontiff moves on to philadelphia, and somewhat less storied accommodations. the st. charles borromeo seminary. the church was forced to sell its 23,000-square-foot mansion in 2012 for budgetary reasons. miguel marquez, cnn, new york. to the other side of the world now and north korea and the question kim jong un, the peacemaker? that is certainly not a widely held view of the north korean leader outside of north korea.

but a top north korean officials tells cnn that kim averted all-out war when tensions spiked between north and south korea last month. will ripley has more now from north korea's capital, pyongyang. >> translator: we've characterize it as a suspicious incident. the south koreans were saying it was caused by us. but it was definitely not us. we expressed our regret meaning we felt sorry the incident caused injury to that personnel. that is all. importantly, our respected marshall kim jong un brought the situation under control with his firm decision to preserve peace and security, taking the safety of our loving people and the entire nation as his top priority and for the future of mankind. >> you characterize your leader kim jong un as a peacemaker. but some of the outside world has a different impression. case in point the statement recently from your own state media that north korea is prepared to use nuclear weapons against the united states at any

time. >> translator: this is simply our official position on the fact that we have been under constant military threat from the united states. it's not a declaration of war or a preemptive strike against the united states. >> any preemptive nuclear strike from north korea? >> translator: america has said it would launch a preemptive nuclear strike against north korea. we are just showing we have such rights to preemptive strikes as well. >> and is kim jong un the person that would push that button and make that call? >> translator: of course, yes. to use the nuclear option or not is solely decided by the central committee of the workers party of korea. you have to understand it correctly. the fact that we are a nuclear power does not mean we're going use it randomly. >> i want to talk about the north korean economy. here in pyongyang, i see more cars. i see people carrying smart phones. we even saw a woman walking around with a pet the other day. there are sign has the economy is growing here.

is that growth happening also outside of pyongyang in other major cities? is everybody seeing the benefit? >> translator: you've seen for yourself some of the good signs of the improvement in our national economy. things are happening here in very positive ways, not just in pyongyang, but throughout the country. we have now fully emerged from the economic difficulties of the ides of march. we think the country will make a very rapid and strong leap forward to make this young nation into an economically prosperous country and in the very near future. >> cnn's will ripley again there reporting live from inside the capital of north korea. and i'll talk with will about his reporting from there in our next hour. he'll be live from pyongyang. well, the remains of a russian czar have been exhumed nearly 100 years after his execution. and many people in russian are

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and welcome back. russian investigators say they have exhumed the remains of a former czar and his family, czar nicholas ii was executed as you know. and as matthew chance reports, the story continues to fascinate the people of russia. >> reporter: they were russia's imperial dynasty, enjoying absolute power until being overthrown in the bolshevik revolution. by 1918, all seven members of the romanov family had been executed, lined up as if in a family photograph and gunned down in a dingy cellar. but what had for years been a closed case has now been reopened at the behest of the russian orthodox church.

>> i would like to highlight that the recent reopening of the criminal investigation is not an attempt to revise the facts established before. it's about the exclusive need to consider new facts due to a request made by the russian orthodox computer. >> reporter: the remains of czar nicholas, his wife alexandra and three daughters were reburied in st. petersburg in 1998. the anniversary of their murder. the russian orthodox church made them saints two years later. but the remains of the czar's two other royal children, bone fragments of 13-year-old crown prince alexei and grand duchess maria found simply in 2007 have never been accepted as genuine by the church. reopening of this infamous murder case is meant to end any uncertainty. as well as exhuming the bodies of czar nicholas and his wife in

st. petersburg, the investigative committee says tissue samples from romanov family members buried in jerusalem have also been obtained, as well as blood samples from the czar's grandfather, alexander ii, who was assassinated in a bomb attack in 1881. the point is to prove beyond any doubt that the remains are indeed of the two romanov children. ♪ the brutal murder of the czar's family is no longer the politically charged issue it once was when the soviet union collapsed and the first remains were unearthed. but until a thorough identification is complete, russia's violent past may never be laid to rest. matthew chance, cnn, moscow. >> matthew chance. we'll continue to follow that one for us. and we have a more current story involving the kremlin, and it also involves a world famous performer. this time it is for real. a kremlin spokesman says president vladimir putin called

elton john and agreed to meet the british musician if their schedules permit it. you see, days ago, a russian tv personality called elton john, pretending to be mr. putin. typical radio high jinks there. john fell for it, and he posted the news online. but then the kremlin denied it. elton john says he wants to meet with mr. putin to discuss russia's treatment of gay people. we'll see if it actually happens, that meeting. well we have this just in to cnn. a possible tornado reported near charleston, south carolina. meteorologist derek van dam following that story for us, and he joins me now. hey there. >> that's right, natalie. this is ten miles south and west of charleston in an area called john's island. there are reports of uprooted trees and houses. even some of the firefighters on the ground saying there are still some families caught inside of their home. they're having difficulty reaching them. this is the latest radar imagery

coming out of the south carolina area. and as we zoom into the region, this is the thunderstorm in question. and you can see these tornado vortex signatures. this is what meteorologists look for when they identify tornadoes or thunderstorms potentially producing tornadoes. we see that distinct shading of green and red. it's that red that is showing motion away from the radar and green showing rotation toward the radar. that's the rotation signature that we often identify to pick up on the possibility of tornadoes. and it's all thanks to a broader low-pressure system just meandering off the east coast of the united states. and believe me, this low could have been something more significant if this was not an el nino season. you see, el nino typically keeps cyclones like this or low-pressure systems from developing into something further, tropical storms or even hurricanes. but the same cannot be said for the warm waters of the pacific. take a look at what is developed over the western pacific.

this is in fact in the philippine sea. we're talking about typhoon and this was recently upgraded from the joint typhoon warning center. look how quickly this storm is set to intensify, potentially impacting northern taiwan and southeastern china over the next three to five days. in fact, wind gusts in excess of 215 kilometers per hour built. the way, that is equivalent to a category 4 hurricane if it were to make landfall with that. one thing we're also watching is the possibility of 10-meter-high waves on the open ocean. that's going to be a major concern for the boating and fishing industry across the taiwan straits. back to you. >> that region certainly has had its share of storms, hasn't it, derek? >> that's true. >> thanks. the new iphone is out today, but in china it has already hit the streets. or has it? apple lovers, beware. the counter. there's no one road out there.

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a deadly stampede at the hajj pilgrimage. saudi arabia orders an investigation after more than 700 people died there. the pope is now in new york city after speaking to the u.s. congress and having dinner with the homeless. and later in this broadcast, a deadly crash in the u.s. city of seattle, washington. four international students are dead after their bus collides with the tour vehicle. and hello and welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm natalie allen. >> and i'm george howell. this is "cnn newsroom." >> good day to you. it is 10:00 a.m. in saudi arabia, where hundreds of

thousands of pilgrims are wrapping up the final day of the hajj. we have these live pictures to show you from the site where at this time on thursday, there was mass chaos. more than 700 people were killed, and another 900 injured in a stampede during a holy muslim ritual known as the stoning of the devil. >> iran, which says it lost at least 131 citizens is blasting saudi arabia over the disaster. the country's supreme leader has declared three days of national morning in iran. we spoke earlier with a woman who was taking part in the hajj when this stampede happened. >> what is being said that happened yesterday is you had two groups of people coming from both direction. as you were saying, there is so little time to complete the rituals. so people have been coming from the previous sites where they performed a previous ritual. they're tired. they're exhausted. a lot of people who don't have money to stay in tent, you know,

they're extremely overheated, dehydrated. a lot of them are elderly or young or infirm. i talked to some men who were actually in the stampede, and they told how if you fell, if you weren't strong enough to withstand the pushing and shoving and the screaming that happened and the panicking, if you fell, you weren't going to get up again. and how one of them, he was on top of piles of bodies. >> well, let's bring in senior international correspondent arwa damon now. she is following development for us from istanbul, turkey, and joins us now live. finger-pointing about how this perhaps happened, arwa. and certainly saudi arabia has tried to prevent this since it's happened before. but here we are again with quite a disaster. >> it really is. no matter how you look at it, this is absolutely tragic and horrific. the saudi authorities are still saying that they're investigating the exact cause of the surge that then led to the

stampede. what we do know is that two large groups of pilgrims appear to have come together out one of these smaller crossroads, intersections. some blame being put by saudi authorities on perhaps the pilgrims themselves for not necessarily following the path that they are meant to be following. but to give our viewers an idea of how densely packed these various different sites are as rituals do take place, we're talk upwards of two million people trying to get to these various different sites. this particular stampede happening as pilgrims were approaching the jamarat. that is where they throw stones, small stones at pillars, symbolizing the rejection of evil. and having been to the hajj a few years ago covering it, then there is a massive density of humanity as they especially get closer to these various

different areas. and over the years, because this has happened in the past, saudi officials have spent upwards of a billion dollars trying to expand and develop the areas around these various different sites. in jamarat itself, building these massive bridges and overpasses to try to decrease the density of people as they are moving through. and also just organizing and coordinating the entire hajj in and of itself is a colossal event and undertaking, maybe especially more challenging because of the propensity that does exist for these types of stampedes to take place. and for so many of those who do undertake this pilgrimage, it is one of the five pillars of islam. many people, natalie, save their entire lives to be able to go on this journey, a at the end of which they do believe they will have cleaned their slate, that they're getting a second chance, a second lease on life. and to have it end for those 700 plus people in such a tragic way

is most certainly very difficult raising a lot of questions. and also putting a lot more pressure on the saudi authorities to ensure this does not happen again. >> absolutely. we are told women and children are among the dead. if you watch the video, as most of us can only do every year, you only see men. you have been there. are women and children in the vicinity? >> they are, and they're part of the rituals in and of themselves. in many cases, you have entire families that go together performing at the same time. in some instance, yes, you do have groups of just men. but most definitely women and children are in the crowds. this is something that is especially when we were there, when we did cover it back in 2008, that when you spoke to people that went as families, they talked about how much more spiritual and fulfilling it was as a family. i remember one family i spoke to

way back then, when the father had gone, performed it and decided to bring his entire family with him, including his smaller children, who i believe were around 10 and 11 years old, a brother and a sister, because he wanted them to experience this as a family. so you do get people from all walks of life. you get those who are the wealthier muslims, and then you get poor people from far reaches of the world who literally have saved their entire lives just to make this one journey. coming from small villages, having never been in a plane before. but saving everything that they have to be able to come and fulfill this key pillar. because they do fundamentally believe in the need for it. they fundamentally believe in what it is that they are undertaking. they're retracing the steps of prophet abraham throughout all of these different rituals, retracing the steps, visiting these very holy sites that prophet muhammad stood in as well. and it is such an emotional journey for everybody who ends up undertaking it.

and again, so devastating that this year it had to end like this. >> absolutely. a solemn event, religious event. millions of people and more than 700 dead. saudi arabia promises an investigation. hope they can figure out what happened why, and it never happens again. arwa damon following it for us from istanbul. thank you, arwa. volkswagen supervisory board is meeting today to appoint a new ceo as it deals with the crisis over fraudulent emissions testing. >> right. they really messed up. and it was on purpose. the german automaker has reportedly picked this man, matias mueller to lead the company. martin winterkorn stepped down wednesday. muler is head of the porsche sports brand. >> let's go live. atika shubert is standing by following this story for us. atika, good to have you with us. the german chancellor angela merkel is calling for quick,

decisive action to protect the brand integrity of that german company. could this change be the first of many more to come? >> thing is no doubt that there is going to be changes in the way vehicles are tested in europe. the german transport minister said as much yesterday that they would begin not just lab testing, but also road testing. and also random testing of vehicles across roads. of course, because germany is part of the eu, this means that it will have to be part of eu wide regulations. but it is definitely shaken the automobile industry to the core. and you're absolutely right. the chancellor angela merkel, the fact that the head of the country had to come out and call on volkswagen to be more transparent goes to show just how important this is, how deeply disappointing and embarrassing it is for many here in germany. that take such pride in the made in germany brands. standing for such solid engineering like this. so there is a lot of concern that this could have wider repercussions. the hope is that by appointing a new ceo, possibly today and by

sort of stemming the damage, they'll be able to try and have a recovery. i should also point out that volkswagen has called for the german prosecutor to launch a criminal investigation to get to the bottom of this. >> atika, what more can you tell us about the person who is reportedly next to lead this company as it seeks to right wrongs and turn the page? >> well, matias mueller has been in charge of the porsche brand now for about five years and has done so successfully. he has really increased sales and profits. he is known as a straight shooter and perhaps the most important quality is that he is well-known and close to the porsche family, which is of course the family that is behind the volkswagen brand. so he is seen as a safe choice going forward. but the key really is who else is going to be blamed orb possibly even fired in the next few days for this crisis? i think there is a lot of

questions being asked about volkswagen's u.s. leadership, for example. also of course the research and development team. the fact that they were able to put in an algorithm that specifically was designed to cheat emissions testing, i mean, it's such a flagrant violation of the rules, george. >> atika, it is important to point out that volkswagen's shares ahead of this announcement are up 4%. some interesting news as we wait to hear what happens next with the leadership change there. but a question as far as consumer confidence. how has all of this affected people's confidence in the brand? >> well, i think there is no doubt it's taken a very deep hit on the brand. this is the world's number one automobile a manufacturer. and the fact that it was knowingly cheating these emissions tests is a huge problem. now to be fair, the vehicles involved diesel cars. this is not the kind of car you

would see most often in the united states. but they're very popular here. and it's 11 million cars that seem to have this cheating software there is a lot of repercussions from that perhaps the bigger problem is whether or not it's just volkswagen. this is the question many in the automobile industry are particularly worried about. is this an indication of a wider problem? comparisons, for example, to the doping scandal in sports. is this a case where volkswagen was just the one that got caught? >> are they the ones that got caught that is the question. atika shubert live for us in berlin this hour. thank you so much for your reporting there. pope francis is in new york city. not many people can steal the show when they arrive in new york city. >> the pope can. >> he has. it's his second stop on his six-day u.s. tour. >> and he got an enthusiastic reception to his arrival to the

nation's city. thousands of people line manhattan's fifth avenue to greet him, as you see here. pope francis then led an evening service at the newly renovated st. patrick's cathedral. >> he began by offering prayers to the victims of the mecca stampede we just talked about. >> translator: in this moment i give assurances of my prayers -- >> and then in the coming hours, the pope will speak to the u.n. general assembly and visit the 9/11 memorial museum. he will also celebrate mass at madison square garden and meet with families of migrants in harlem. on thursday, pope francis delivered a moving and powerful address. a very rare event at a joint meeting of the u.s. congress. >> right. and during his speech, he brought both democrats and republicans to standing. he also had the supreme court standing. they don't normally do that when

they attend these things. but he urged the lawmakers to use their power to promote peace and justice and to resolve the world's many crises. cnn as more on the pope's message. >> reporter: from the corridors of power to a mission for the homeless. pope francis tended to all of his flock during a whirlwind day in washington. hailed by thousands as he stepped on to the balcony of the capitol. a divided congress and n a city that is often cynical paused today for the pope's historic address. >> mr. speaker, the pope of the holy see. >> reporter: supreme court justices and members of the president's cabinet joined republicans and democrats in paying respect. there were at times gentle scoldings, like on the politically charged issue of immigration.

>> we the people of this continent are not fearful of foreigners because most of pa past -- because most of us were once foreigners. >> reporter: he wove american icons like martin luther king into the challenges of today. particularly immigrants in search of a better life. >> it is not what we want for our own children. >> reporter: there were moments of discomfort for both sides. from abortion -- >> to protect and defend human life at every stage of its development. >> reporter: to climate change. >> i convinced that we can make

a difference. >> reporter: yet pope francis waded only gingerly into the partisan waters, delivering a message that is sort of above the conventional lines of our politics. >> a good political leader is one who with the interest of all in mind seizes the moment in a state of openness and pragmatism. >> reporter: his effect on lawmakers was clear. from republican speaker john boehner to one of the top democrats, debbie wasserman schulz. >> i think everybody is a citizen of the world today. >> but beneath the dome where humility is often in short supply, lawmakers stood watch for a final glimpse as the pope moved oon to st. patrick's in downtown washington and the home of catholic charity. he bid farewell to the crowds with time ticking away before diving back into the crowd for even more handshakes.

>> nice to see him with the children there. he always wants to get up close and personal. >> he does. he likes to get out. the secret service, they don't like that part, but it is something this pope really loves to do. get out and interact. >> make theirs job more challenging. but what can you say when the pope wants to do that? congressional leaders invited pope francis to have lunch with them after his speech. but being this pope, he chose to eat with washington's homeless. >> that's right. he visited a catholic charity shelter and told people that there is no justification for homelessness in the united states. cnn's carol costello reports. >> reporter: catholic charities plan was so well orchestrated. these humble doors would open. those gathered, the homeless and the destitute would stand and applaud respectfully. pope francis would have none of it.

after a blessing a simple lunch, the pope, in an extraordinary yet maddening move for the secret service launched into the crowd. people swarmed around the pope. everybody dispensing with the advice to address him as your holiness. as far as kissing his ring, forget about it. selfies ruled. >> they brought dignitaries and people like that to see the pope. and the pope said no, he wants to see the common people. he wants to see the people that he serves. imagine that, me coming out of the ghetto. >> i felt something. i'm not lying. i felt something. >> reporter: pope francis made a beeline for children, and they came prepared. 8-year-old steven who lives in a shelter with his mother and sister came armed with a letter. it reads "dear pope, can you please pray for me and my mother for a better life and a better job?" pope francis took the letter with him. what was that like? >> awesome. >> i didn't expect none of this. >> reporter: all of this vintage

francis, an expert at using his grace to inspire. did you feel something too? >> i felt a little vibe of positive energy, yes. a lot. a lot of it. and i hope it flows through the city. >> reporter: what did this mean to you, this whole experience? >> it meant the world to me, because it's like that's the pope. and by me being in the situation i'm in, i get to meet the pope. and then i walk outside. i didn't get no picture. >> reporter: does it give you hope? >> yes, it does. it gives me hope. that i'm full of hope and i'm full of joy and happiness. so it's just added on. >> reporter: pope francis leaving that impression i've heard so many times, a man so human yet divine. doesn't it seem, george, that he enjoys getting up close and personal and talking to people as much as they enjoy talking to him? >> it makes a big difference too. instead of meeting with members

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go long. welcome back. a little snafu you might see in the road leading to the olympics in japan. japan sports minister is resigning over plans for the national stadium for the tokyo 2020 olympics. the minister is a close ally of prime minister shinzo abe. he said mr. abe asked him to stay on until a cabinet reshuffle next month. >> here is the deal. in july, that stadium was scrapped because the costs soared to $2 billion. that is nearly twice the original estimate. the minister had this to say about his salary for the project. season. >> translator: the first time i received word regarding the possibility of the stadium's cost blowout and construction delay was in april. which is why i have decided to return the six months worth of

pay that i received from that day onward. >> the stadium was also meant to be the centerpiece for the 2019 world cup. chinese president xi jinping, he is in washington, d.c. where he attended a working dinner with president barack obama at the white house. later today, mr. xi is expected to unveil a cap and trade program for carbon emissions. >> under that program, china would cap carbon emissions for individual companies. firms exceeding their quotas could buy permits from companies that have reduced emissions. >> let's go straight to beijing. our saima mohsin standing by live at this hour. good to have you with us. wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall in that meeting. carbon emissions, that might be a good jumping off point for these leaders to start their talks. but there are some thorny issues on the table from territorial disputes to cybercrimes. talk to us about the list of

tricky topics that they will have to discuss. >> yeah, incredibly tricky. of course climate change the cap and trade system that china will announce later today alongside president obama. a huge feat for president obama to convince china to do this as well, snag he has been working towards for the paris conference later in the year. that's the positives. then as you say, wouldn't bit great to be a fly on the wall, the tough talking. and president obama hasn't been mincing his words. neither has anyone alongside him. susan rice saying very clearly this has to stop. president obama saying you want to make this a competition? well, if we do, we will win it. so there is a lot of tough talking. president obama said he will not paper over the cracks with this one. he is going to address it head-on. whether they make headway on cybercrime, nobody really knows. george? >> saima, can you also talk to us about the interest that has certainly been garnered about the official state dinner, the

menu among the chinese public? what more can you tell us about that? >> yeah, you know, george, alongside the south china sea, military engagement, cybercrime, there is a lot of interest in the food too. there is a lot of buzz on chinese social media leading up to the banquet, what were they going to eat, what would it be. and then when the menu came to light, some criticism actually. a lot of chinese people saying hey, this food doesn't seem good enough there is not enough of it. because in chinese culture, the more you want to welcome someone into your house at your table, the more dishes you prepare. of course, western cuisine is very much a set entree starters fish course, meat course and dessert. there is a lot of fusion in this menu. it's a mixture of autumn and fall seasonal vegetables and meats on the plates. so alongside chinese influence like rice noodles, alongside

maine lobster and meyer lemons which are said to have origined in china and brought to the u.s. in 1900. george, natalie? >> to be a fly on the wall, and also to be seated at the table. it sounds like a pretty nice meal, saima. thank you so much for your reporting. we have this from seattle, washington. four international college students are dead after their bus collided with a tour vehicle on a highway. and this is the scene. it was on a bridge actually near downtown seattle. dozens were rushed to hospitals. two remain in critical condition. authorities say all of those killed were on the tour bus. >> that's right. and at this point, it's not clear what caused that crash. but the national transportation safety board sent a team to investigate. one witness explained what he saw. well, we're not hearing from that witness. but the company has pulled all of its duck boats, that tour vehicle. they pulled all of those from the city streets and those duck

boats. they are vehicles that float on water and also roll on streets. still to come here on "cnn newsroom," inside north korea. that nation's most famous farmer shows off a farm cooperative decades in the making. oh, look. we have a bunch of...

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visit the 9/11 memorial museum. he'll also celebrate mass at madison square garden. he'll take a little walking tour of central park and meet with families of migrants in harlem. >> good time in new york. japan's sports minister is stepping down over the ballooning cost of a stadium for the 2020 olympics. the prime minister asked the minister to stay on until next month. the national stadium was scrapped when the cost of the design skyrocketed to more than $2 billion. the king of saudi arabia promises a speedy investigation into the deadliest tragedy at the hajj in 25 years. at least 717 people were killed. they were trampled in a stampede near the holy city of mecca. it happened during a ritual known as the stoning of the devil. and this is the scene right now in saudi arabia, people gathering for the final day of the hajj. we're also expecting friday prayers at the grand mosque in mecca.

an estimated 2 million people are taking part in the hajj this year. earlier, we spoke with journalist journalist jamal khashoggi. he explained what happened. >> it happened about 24 hours or before with the sunrise in mina. it the most difficult day for the saudi arabia security to move around. more than 2.5 haji pilgrims out of their tents, out of their camps, into two locations. one is called jamarat, and the second location is the grand mosque, and then bring them back. so you're talking about providing the movement of huge masses. so the saudi government with experience over the years developed a very complicated system that involved the

security people, involved rival agents who regiments of the pilgrims which compromise the thousands. they go in a certain time of the day. they have to move in a certain direction, come back through a certain street. if any mistake happens, if a group makes the wrong turn, that will cause a disaster. and that's exactly what happened yesterday. the government promised an investigation is going to be thoroughly about it and announce it soon. who made that mistake and the hajis refuse according to a minister accounts who defied the order of the police and went in the wrong directions or is it -- that is still under investigation. >> we will have continuing coverage of the disaster near mecca throughout the day here on cnn. and you can get the latest

updates on our website any time. just go to cnn.com/international. the long-time manager of pyongyang cooperative farm just might be north korea's most famous farmer. over decades, she has met dozens of times with north korea's leaders. she has survived hardship and famine, and now oversees a modern super farm. cnn's will ripley got an exclusive tour. he joins us now from north korea's capital. we know, will, that you've gotten this tour and you've been able to tell this story. but still, your access and where you go is closely monitored, we should point that out. >> that's right, natalie. we are accompanied by government officials on these various shoots as we have been in every visit. this is my fourth time in just over a year. and for a while now we've been asking about access to a north korean farm because we want to

talk about the food situation in this country. it is no secret and north korea has acknowledged economic struggles and acknowledged the fact that there are many people here who at times do not have enough to eat. it's because of the fact that they have a hard time producing enough food to feed the entire population. at times the situation is quite dire for some people. but there is hope that pharmacy like the one you're about to see will provide more food for people in the future here. what are you growing in here? surrounded by green tomatoes and red pepper, we're touring one of north korea's very first greenhouses. you're not kidding. it's hot in here. with a farmer who remembers when they barely had seeds to plant. first after the korean war, and again during the great famine, when hundreds of thousands died of starvation. "we had no vertlizer. we had no electricity. we had to eat grass porridge. we really had to struggle to

survive" kim says poverty was a way of life at this farm, her home for more than half a century. today irrigated fields. more than 600 greenhouses. brand-new housing and schools. all of it built in eight and a half months. 4,000 workers a day acting on orders from supreme leader kim jong un who envisioned a farm of the future. "our dream has been achieved by the leader," she says. "in the old days, we were so poor, so barren. we never imagine wed would grow this many vegetables." this co-op considered a model for north korea's 2,000 other farms, making kim something of national celebrity. pictures in the farm museum show many of her 44 meetings over the years with all three leaders. farm manager at 23 when she says she gave him honest feedback

about the poor conditions of the farm at that time. today the 69-year-old expresses absolute devotion to his grandson, a third generation leader. "if we only eat a few grains of rice without many vegetables, we're still satisfied as long as we have our leader," she says. despite recent gains, the u.n. world food program says north korea still struggles to produce enough food for its 24 million people, estimating 70% of the population is highly vulnerable to food shortages. >> there they are. >> reporter: this farm, complete with a fully stocked fishing pond is just minutes from the capital pyongyang, home to many of north korea's most privileged and some might say well fed citizens. farmers get cash and prizes for productivity. incentives to grow more food and feed more people. this farmer says all in the name of the leader.

>> and will ripley is back with us live from the capital there in north korea. will, i understand you have some breaking news. what is it? >> so back in may, natalie, i interviewed wan moon ju, a new york city university student who admitted to crossing illegally into north korea from china, saying that he was curious about this country, and also had a desire to accomplish some sort of a great event. now wan moon ju, 21 years old, a permanent resident of the united states. but he is from south korea south korea. but his family lives in the u.s. he attended nyu. we spoke with him a few months ago. and i believe we have video of that interview. he held a press conference here in pyongyang, and it was attended by a number of different news agencies, including north korean state media. they showed him on camera. we were not present. but i did listen to the press conference, which was in english. and he said, i'm just going to read you some things he said, quote, i'm not very sure about my future. but because i broke the law by

illegally entering, he will accept my judgment as given. he also talked about the fact that the north korean government took him to kim ill sun university and to the grand people's study house where he spoke with other college students in english. and he says they told him he was no enemy to them. him surfacing right now is significant because in just a couple weeks or so, north korea has a major national holiday coming up, the founding of their workers party. and north korea has a history of providing amnesty to detainees around national holidays. so given that he is surfacing now, even though he said he doesn't know when he is going to go home. but he hopes to be treated generously, we may have some indication that his release could be forthcoming. of course, we'll continue to work to get more information. we've just learned about this within the last hour or so. >> all right, will. thank you for bringing us the latest on that story. we certainly hope he does get amnesty. we know that you'll continue to

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and welcome back. we have new poll numbers for you from election 2016. and it looks like democratic candidates hillary clinton is losing ground to contender bernie sanders in the key state of new hampshire. >> that's right. a new cnn/wmur survey shows that sanders has the support of almost half of likely voters in next year's primary, with 46%. 36% say that they back hillary clinton, and 14% have support for u.s. vice president joe biden, should he decide to run. on the republican side of things, the polls show that donald trump continues to hold a wide lead in new hampshire over his primary competitors. but the rest of the field is

shifting. trump leads with 26% among likely voters to vote in the nation's first primary. >> but second position now goes to businesswoman carly fiorina with 16%. florida senator marco rubio third with 9%. retired neurosurgeon ben carson was in second is in fourth place now with 8%. try to keep up. shifting numbers. >> something donald trump probably didn't like. he got a less than glowing reception on the streets of new york on thursday, and our cnn new york cameras were there. [ booing ] trump met with more jeers than cheers as he walked into the trump tower through a crowded field there gathered for the pope. later the republican presidential hopeful could be seen there at the top of the tower, waving to the crowd below. >> well, trump is not happy

about cnn's reporting of a campaign appearance in south carolina this week. the feud was triggered over not who came to the event, but how many came or didn't come. here is cnn's randi kaye. >> i'm just excited about seeing him in person. >> reporter: the enthusiasm was there, but the turnout was not. we arrived at the north charleston event center, capacity 1500 about 90 minutes before the scheduled start time of 2:00 p.m. and 30 minutes before the speech was to begin, the hall still looked like this. more than a third empty. at least. >> hello, mr. trump. randi kaye with cnn. >> reporter: when trump arrived, he was happy to see us. >> where is cnn? come here, cnn. >> reporter: but that happiness turned into something else entirely overnight after he saw our report. noting the room was only about 2/3 full. it had hundreds of empty seats. listen to trump on cnn's new day. >> your reporter in south carolina, who is absolutely

terrible. she covered my speech. i made a speech to the african american chamber of commerce in south carolina. wonderful people. and the room was full. every seat was full. >> reporter: every seat full? not so much. this picture was taken while mr. trump was speaking. here is some video around the same time. notice he is on stage. and notice the many empty seats in the back of the room. again, mr. trump. >> when i went to the stage, everybody rushed forward. they all rushed to the front of the room. it was a ballroom. they all rushed to the front of the room. and when they did that, you had half of the seats in the back were empty. because everybody was standing in the front. >> reporter: for the record, not everyone was standing. and the empty seats were empty because they were never occupied. we weren't the only ones who noticed. this "new york times" headline reads a day of empty seats and donald trump in full attack. "the washington post" headline, "donald trump says he didn't speak to a half empty room, but he did."

the post writer, philip bump noted trump's comments about our reporting. then fact checked it, posting this photo from the associated press. notice all the empty seats? trump is at the podium. the post noted this one too. some people standing. most not. the post summed it up this way. cnn's assessment appears to have been the correct one. we also pointed out in our reporting that the event was sponsored by the south carolina african american chamber of commerce. but the crowd was overwhelmingly white, with only a handful of african americans. but on cnn's "new day" druch denied that too. >> well, they had many african americans. they had many white people too. >> reporter: here is another angle of the crowd. note the ethnicity. and yet another angle. in television, pictures tell the story, especially this story. randi kaye, cnn, charleston,

south carolina. >> the facts are the facts are the facts. and there were empty seats in that hall. randi kaye reporting there. still to come here on cnn newsroom, pope francis pays a visit to the u.s. congress and one top politician had a hard time holding back the tears. you're watching "cnn newsroom." yothat's lactaid®.k! right. 100% real milk, just without the lactose. so, no discomfort? exactly. try some... mmm, it is real milk. lactaid®. 100% real milk. no discomfort.

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well, the new iphone 6s is on sale today. i'm holding with the one i have, george. analysts expect 12 to 13 million of them to go flying off the shelves this weekend. fans from san francisco to hong kong camped out for days to be among the first to pick one up. the phones are the same size as last year's models, and have improved cameras and 3-d touch. they range in price from 199 to $299 and a contract with a service provider, of course. >> i might be in the market to upgrade there. the moment, though, after they went on sale in hong kong, they were already on the black market. street vendors were making a profit on resales not far from the apple store's doors.

in sydney, australia, at least one apple fan wasn't willing to spend time waiting in the rain. so she sent what may be a stand-in of the future. lucy kelly stayed at home dry while her telepresence robot stood in line for the new iphone. how about that? >> that's ingenious. lucy operated the robot while she did chores around the house. and yes, she did get her new iphone from her robot. glad to see nobody cut in line on the robot. >> a telepresence robot. that's the best way to stand in line. all right. so it is not unusual for the catholic faithful to be moved to tears when they come face-to-face with the pope. the holy father. >> and there were people crying in washington as he spoke. here is jeanne moos. >> reporter: usually the pope produces smiles or a bubble of intimacy. but in his speech to congress, he brought a couple of members to tears.

deploy that hankie, mr. speaker. >> responsibility. >> reporter: from the moment he met pope francis -- >> your holiness. >> reporter: john boehner seemed emotional. a devout catholic, he is the one who invited the pontiff to address congress. by the time they got to the podium, boehner seemed to be holding back tears. and then the pope opened with this. >> in the land of the free and the home of the brave. that's when it became the land of bravely trying to fight back tears. it's my congress, and i'll cry if i want to, tweeted one person. and when the pope came out on the balcony to greet the cheering throngs, the struggle intensified. boehner used to be an altar boy. he told the cincinnati enquirer. the picture of the pope hung in his boyhood home. and most every day we parade for the pope. speaker boehner wasn't the only one to shed a tear.

the difference is marco rubio seemed to shed only a single tear. it was caught on camera when the pope spoke of immigration. rubio is the son of cuban immigrants. and virginia senator tim kaine, another catholic looked teary as the pope spoke of the importance of family. for his past episodes of crying -- >> chasing the american dream. >> reporter: boehner has been dubbed the weeper of the house. during the pope's speech, even liberal writer joan walsh tweeted watching speaker boehner fight tears is incredibly moving. a conservative website once summed up boehner's tendency to cry this way. boehner is crying. in other news, the pope is catholic. standing next to the real live pope, no wonder the speaker was sprinkling holy water. >> to pray for me. >> reporter: jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> and that is our news.

thank you for watching cnn. i'm natalie allen. >> and i'm george howell. . . . night

pope francis waking up in new york. set to speak before the united nations this morning. just the beginning of the day that brings him all over the city. and china's president wakes up in washington. a key meeting with president obama. a big announcement on climate change and that will keep tensions high. good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm john berman. >> i'm christine romans. it's friday, september 25th. 4:00 a.m. in the