good evening. 9:00 p.m. in new york. we're in central park whe today tens of thousands of people lined the streets, filled the pathways for just a glimpse of pope francis. he's back at the vatican diplomatic residence across town behind tight security. he travels to mile philadelphia tomorrow where among notable items, a mass for 1 million people. he hope he's getting sleep tonight. he certainly had quite a day. take a look. >> pope francis will now enter the general assembly hall. [ applause ]

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[ cheers ] ♪ ♪ >> go in peace by the lord by your life. and please, i ask you don't forget to pray for me. [ cheers ] >> don't forget to pray for me is what he left the people in madison square garden with that message. after a day like that, anyone would need good sleep and i want to check in with jason carroll on the upper east side. i certainly hope this pope is now resting, jason.

[ laughter ] >> reporter: i think, anderson, a lot of people are hoping he's getting some rest here tonight at the vatican diplomatic residence. we're here on madison and 72 nd street. as you know, we're under heavy security here and those folks in the public who did come up were told they had to stand a block away in either direction on 73rd and one direction in 71st in the other direction. but what a day it was. i mean, i remember when this day started early this morning as you did, as well. we were down at central park seeing the thousands upon thousands of people who came there who stood in line, some of them thinking they would not be able to get in and those who didn't stayed in columbus circle and when you talk to them and i said you're coming down and all likelihood probably going to get a few seconds of the pope and one woman said to me, that's enough for me and that's really the sentiment we heard from so many people here in this city,

whether it was on standing outside on fifth avenue you were down at st. patricks and folks standing there saying i don't care, i just want to see him drive by. that was enough. this truly is the people's pope and the hope is tonight he will be getting some rest because tomorrow it's going to start all over for him again as you know in philadelphia. >> of course, we'll be there to cover it. thanks very much. a lot of proud new yorkers, a few more so than andrew cuomo joining us by phone. this has been such a remarkable two days here in new york. you greeted the pontiff when he arrived at st. patrick's cathedral. i think i saw you perhaps speaking italian to him ask today at the 9/11 memorial. what stands out to you about his visit? >> caller: you know, anderson, i'll tell you the truth. i've been in the federal government, all over the country and met all sorts of people. this was an extraordinary couple

of days. it was an extraordinarily personal experience for me. not just that i'm meeting the pope, this pope, his message,, words, universal message at a time we desperately need it and when you're in his physical presence, he's even more powerful. and the schedule you mentioned how hectic it was and how much work he did and 9/11 and how powerful he was in that memorial was unbelievable, he then had the presence of mind, had breast cancer and recovered and cancer free but he took the time to give her a special blessing so he -- with all he had going on,

he was that personal and just in his presence holding his hand, i had a sense of peace that i haven't felt all year, i'll tell you the truth. he really is an extraordinary man and new yorkers as scenical as we are, they detect it. they feel the authenticity. he lives it. i never seen an individual impact the state of new york the way this pope has period. >> and to see so many new yorkers really of all faiths lining up for hours and hours and hours to get into central park lining up just to try to get a glimpse of him, what do you think it means to have this pope at this time in this country right now? >> well, i think part of it is a function of the time. this is a dark time in this country in this world. i mean, there is so much bad

news, so much that is out of control so much clutter, so many irrelevant, and here is a man with a simple message for catholics accustomed to a complicated driven religion. he gets it down to one word and the word is love, and jesus christ was about love and all that the is, don't judge, com n commonty and that's and the t religion and what people want to hear and need and that this place can be better and we can get along and the hostility

doesn't have to be and it's not just his words because new yorkers won't just take words. he lives it and you feel it and the way he reaches out to young people and the simplicity of his life, you know, oh, he's in manhattan with all this wealth and gets into his fiat and he drives away, you know, what a beautiful symbol of what the man is about. >> no doubt about that. governor cuomo, i want to bring in natalia professor and contributor best selling. professor of religion for the university in new york. let me start off with you. from the things you saw today, what stood out? >> what stood out to me is t

the -- >> the highlight of the day. >> he saw the face of good most energized and a couple spoke to him in spanish and showed him how to use the smart board. he was happy. >> we'll speak to three kids there later and how people show him photographs of their loved one whose have passed, one of the boys who i think is going to be here, his aunt passed away and he showed the pope a photo of his aunt. we saw it at the 9/11 memorials, people showing photos of those who died. >> he's so pofocused on that. suffering always has a face of his specificity. he's about looking at people face-to-face and looking at

humanity. >> you focus on some of the statements he made particularly to congress and quoting martin luther king among others. >> he told them he mentioned four people, martin luther king and less well-known dorothy and here in new york and the great poet and monk and also peace activists and big friend. so these were rather radical people and they are quite controversial. i was delighted he mentioned them and talked to him because they are great heroes of mine and really wonderful. >> almost surprising to hear him talk about dorothy day and among catholics, viewed, i don't know, kind of looked at sideways.

>> she was radical at the time and she started the catholic worker movement but also the embodiment of social justice and probably before john f kennedy, the most popular american catholic but to pick up on what the father said, what is striking to me in the last few days, anderson, how well he seems to understand this country. he's never been here and speech to congress resonates and you seen that today at 9/11. we were watching it live. that was more than moving. it was important, i think, because the inner faith movement sputtered in part because religious leaders don't usually want to spend their precious timesharing the spotlight with other religions and he spent his clout fewer than 48 hours sharing with other religions remarkable and a moment of coming together in a place that's still an open wound for many. >> and of all the places to share that message to do it at

the 9/11 memorial, there is risk involved in that perhaps. >> it was important -- >> you were there. >> i was there and also, there was an incredible, spectacular voice. >> extraordinary. >> and then the man at the new york university mosque chanted from thekoran. i was very moving to me and to have archbishop of an american orthodox church in america and also pastor of thefrom the e vvl evangelical, spectacular morning and well worth the trip down from the bronx. >> one thing pope francis talked about is increasing the role of women within the church, obviously not changing catholic doctrine but finding a way to do that. he spoke a little bit about the

importance of nuns at st. patrick's, which got a huge -- >> many of us were really very heartened to hear him say that. i think the nuns have done amazing work and really uplifting for them to hear that the pope loves them, you next as much as the rest of america loves them and it was a little disappointing that the mass today didn't include any women on the alter because women do, for some people that's their only exposure to catholic mass and parishes all over new york every sunday there are women giving outcome m communion and singing and praying from the alter and not on the alter and that was a visual queue i wish would have been there in this great moment for the city of new york. >> i also was disappointed. i was sitting next to a man that came down from the nation around syracuse and came all the way downgoing back again today and i

was sorry that there wasn't somebody praying from the native american tradition because he and ialk about lacrosse and how it's unifying among native americans but really, i said it would have been lovely to have something from the native american tradition. >> to see the people and energy of the place and the, you know, archbishop dolan welcoming and just the cheer that went out was extraordinary. >> a great moment. he said welcome to new york in this completely spontaneous five-minute ovation and new yorkers saying we're here, too and want to break off script. in someways his body is weaker but his spirit is higher and the position as he's now gone into the cart and you can see him hobbling but gaining energy. the grip this man has really

ext what a message. >> i noticed with the children in the school in harlem that he was very lively with the children and went to the room with the suits and his face fell flat. >> as it would for any of us. >> thank you so much for being with us. good to have you on. speaking of the school visit, coming up, we'll be joined by some students there to hear their impressions. can you imagine what that was like? we'll talk to three students there. be right back. is secure, the possibility of a breach can quickly become the only thing you think about. that's where at&t can help. at at&t we monitor our network traffic so we can see things others can't. mitigating risks across your business. leaving you free to focus on what matters most.

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we talked about before the break, some of the biggest smiles from pope francis came when he visited a school of east harl harlem before the ride through central park. take a look. ♪ ♪. >> the executive director of catholic charities called it the most important stop. he met with kids and got a hands-on dem straigs onstratiodh the technology didn't seem to be fully cooperating. joining me are children that met the pope today. so how was it? was it like?

>> it was completely amazing. when he walked into the room, it was so noisy but felt silent. >> were you nervous? >> i was nervous he wouldn't stop. that was the main thing nerve wracking but not really. >> how about for you? >> it was pretty overwhelming i have to say but -- >> it's got to be surreal. >> yeah. >> i saw him last night like 100 feet away and my voice was raised, i was so excited just to be that close. >> yeah, but honestly, once you see him and just being able to speak to him, he's just very relaxing and felt comfortable. >> how long ago did you find out you would be meeting with him? >> i found out in the middle of august i got a call from my religion teacher and he said do you want to meet the pope? my answer was yeah. >> that's not a call you get every day? >> not at all. >> was he different in person than you imagined he would be? >> definitely. >> he was. in what way?

>> i don't know. i expected him to be -- he was really down to earth and very nice. he came up and said hello and was like god bless you, how are you and greeted all of us individually -- >> was he speaking english? >> yeah. >> yes. >> one of the things i've really been struck by is throughout his trips here, people have been showing him photographs. we saw it today down at the 9/11 memorial and i know you showed him a photo of your aunt who i'm sorry to say passed away last year. >> yes, yesterday was actually a year. yeah, my aunt so i showed him the picture of her and he blessed it for me. >> that's so nice and showed him a picture of your dad. >> i did. my dad is sick with terminal cancer and he blessed a picture of him. >> amazing and that will mean a lot for your family. >> mean sos much. >> were you able to sleep last night when you were realizing the next day you would be meeting the pope? >> i did. i slept. i went to bed early and got a

good night's sleep. >> i tried to go to bed early but just the anticipation kept me up. >> yeah, i was up all night. >> you were? >> yeah, and up early, too. >> will you be able to sleep tonight? >> i'll try. >> tonight i think i have so much jitters. >> yeah. >> i'm also very tired so i might just crash. >> it's interesting. we just did a story in the last hour about a teenage girl back in when pope john paul, ii came to madison square guardian and that moment meeting the pope changed the course of her life and it will be interesting to say, obviously, you won't know this at this point but whether this has an impact on you moving forward, do you think it will? >> i think it's a memory i'll hold forever. i want to be a civil engineer and pope francis is concerned about the environment and that's something i'm concerned about as well and i hope i can one day change how buildings are created and make them for friendly for the environment.

>> that's cool. did you get to tell the pope that? >> no, but something i'll always remember. thank you so much. really, awesome to meet you. >> thank you. >> yeah, such a pleasure. >> all right. cool. please give my best to your dad. >> thank you. the qualities that set pope francis apart are the real thing, modest ways were well-known before he reached the vatican. we'll take a look straight ahead. the best iphone ever is here. and you're all like... and then you remember there's verizon. which is great, because if you're going to get the best iphone wouldn't you want to have the best network? kinda makes you want to jump for joy. tell all your friends and family. even throw a party. get the best iphone on the best network. go in store or visit us online. and get up to $400 when you switch to verizon and trade up to the iphone 6s. because the best deserves the best. ♪

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this week many americans are seeing firsthand what sets pope francis apart from predecessors, from the small fee tiat that sp volumes and the fancy meals he rejected and carrying his bag. everyone who knows him will tell you it's not an act and his life history bears that out. it hasn't changed the man he is changing the face of the papacy. here is randi kaye. >> reporter: even before he was elected, the man who would be pope introduced the world to his humble ways. >> when he was flying over to

the conclave that elected him to be pope, he booked his own ticket. >> flew coach. >> reporter: the soon to be pope was staying at a guest house nearby and avenue he got word he was chosen as the new pope, he did something very unusual. >> he has them drive by, drive him by the guest house the next morning to pay his bill on his own and settle his account, you know. he could have sent somebody over there. you know, he didn't. >> reporter: his humbleness just part of the appeal, the first jez wit pope ever and he chose to live in the santa marta guest house and instead of vatican's pipe l apartments and he eats in the cafeteria everyone buses his own trey. sometimes he eats with the bishops, other times the custodian staff.

as archbishop he live in a small bedroom reportedly with a portable heater he would turn on when the build's heating system shut down and cooked for himself and rode the subway and bus and they are known for inpen kens. picks up his own eyeglasses and when he writes letters, he simply signs them francis. this pope cancelled his own newspaper. >> after elected pope, when he was archbishop he had a habit of going to a news stand and buying a p a newspaper. after he was elected pope he said hey, it's pope francis and i'm sorry but i'm not going to be needing the paper anymore.

[ laughter ] >> reporter: that's great. >> i'm pope now. >> reporter: at mass days before easter in 2013 the pope washed the feet of a dozen prisoners and kissed them. foot washing is part of the christian tradition that mirrors jesus. >> a powerful symbol washing the feet of muslim and women and very moving. >> reporter: a humble pope with a huge heart. just ahead in the world of politics, the shock wave john boehner released. he made the final decision to resign after waking up and having his coffee this morning. what's the back story? find out ahead.

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john boehner announced he'll resign speakership and seat in congress. >> it's become clear to me that this prolonged leadership turmoil would do irreparable

harm to the institution so i will resign from the speakership and resign from congress at the end of the october. listen, it was never about the vote. there was not a doubt whether i could survive a vote. i don't want my members to go through and i don't want the institution to go through this. i won't be here to vote on the next speaker but that's up to the members. having said that, i think kevin carthy would make an excellent speaker. >> hours before that boehner broke the news to staff catching most of them entirely by surprise. his decision came less than 24 hours after pope francis spoke and came from speaker boehner visibly emotional during the pope's address. some wonder if the pope's words influenced the timing to step down. dana bash joins us now. seems like this decision was really made over the course of the last day or so, was that right? >> that's what john boehner himself says, i was talking to

some of his top aids this morning before we heard it from the horse's mouth and they said it was really late last night and turns out it actually was not just the pope being there yesterday in the capital at john boehner's invitation but a moment boehner said the two of them had when boehner was walking the pope out, a private moment when they were talking and the pope said to boehner please pray for me. we know from the coverage that you've been doing and others he says that to a lot of people but when you're the speaker and when you just have this day like he had to hear that from the pope, according to john boehner, that was kind of moment where he said i'm done. now the back story is that nobody knew he was already planning on making this announcement in november around his birthday, he moved it up because of that moment but also the raw politics of what is going on in the house, which is that conservatives are getting more and more anxious about him

and about his speakership and more concerned about the fact that they believe he's selling out when he says he's just trying to keep the institution running. >> what is next for the republicans? >> what is next is they really are going to continue to have to soul search and what you're seeing in congress right now is so reflective of what we're also reporting on every day in the republican primary process for president, anderson, it's a lot of concern, a lot of angst out among the rank and file, out in the country that washington just doesn't get and john boehner had become a symbol of that. so the, probably at this point, looks like the man that's been number two, house majority leader kevin mccarthy i've been talking to sources tonight that he's been working the phones found out minutes before john boehner told the rest of the caucus, he's been working the phones and doesn't look like that much real opposition but the question is how is he going

to be able to lead any differently than john boehner? not clear at all he'll have much better look. >> thanks very much. incredible day and more breaking news, donald trump fired up in oklahoma city campaigning at the state fair and of course, taking aim at the media. when you're not confident your company's data is secure, the possibility of a breach can quickly become the only thing you think about. that's where at&t can help. at at&t we monitor our network traffic so we can see things others can't. mitigating risks across your business. leaving you free to focus on what matters most.

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breaking news on the campaign trail, donald trump was fired up to put it mildly taking aim at the media among others accusing reporters of under reporting the size of the crowds and directed the cameras to pan the crowd. >> look at that. look where this crowd goes to. cameras, can you do us a favor? instead of just panning on me and won't say -- do me a favor. take the cameras off me and pan the crowd, okay? go ahead, pan the crowd. pan it and be honest. be honest. go ahead, pan it. you're not panning it. they don't want to pan it. they don't want to pan it. turn those cameras, no, no, turn them all the way back. >> m.j. lee was there and joins

us now with the latest. there was a rather large crowd there tonight and you got a chance to talk to him before event walking through. you asked him to weigh in on boehner's resignation. >> reporter: donald trump is back, we seen a subdued side of donald trump but tonight back in full force and you're right, before he gave his speech, we got a chance to walk and talk with him a little bit at the fair here tonight, asked him about the big news out of d.c. today, john boehner's regular significa -- resignation and ted cruz and rick santorum have out right said it's time for boehner to go and make room for a more conservative house speaker. listen to what trump had to say. >> i think it's time. it's really time for him. he's, a lot of problems. we got to get the country going and i think it really is time. >> reporter: so you think it's a good thing for the party?

>> i think right now it is. tremendous division in the party and i think right now having him go is a good thing for the party, yes. >> next week he's supposed to release the tax plan, correct? >> reporter: that's correct. he has a busy week next week and a rally in new hampshire on wednesday and another one in virginia beach on friday and at some point in the week, he is supposed to release the tax plan. this is a cam pan that la campa in details. >> joining me now is donald trump's national campaign chairman. good to have you on the show. the fact donald trump keeps boasting about the crowds insisting the media is shortchanging him, the media is arguably been probably one of the biggest helps to him the past couple months, do you believe people are shortchanging him on anything? >> i just think it's an episode.

we have instances where people might for some reason or another because he has had such large crowds, if they see an empty seat or two at an event, they might want to focus in on that. generally speaking, we've had all of our events have been heavily attended. i was in dallas couple weeks ago for that incredible event down there and at the u.s.s. iowa in california, as well. we haven't seen anything that really indicates the people aren't coming out. they are there and i think sometimes it's just to get a slicer to raise the temperature in the room a little bit. i think that sometimes people report things in a different way. >> the fact that he continually goes after reporters like my colleague randi kaye who reported that there was one event the other day that didn't have a full house, another event that later that day had a very full house, i mean, he immediately gets very personal,

very nasty. as -- you worked with campaigns before. does he seem particularly thin-skinned to you? >> no, i don't think so. i think that it's a style. i think it's what we're really doing is we're asking for responsible reporting. this is a very large field that we have. i think earned media is an important part of campaigns. i know a little bit about that having run a couple campaigns myself so this really is a way to keep people on their toes and focussed and when you look at a field this large, think about what people are doing, some candidates are doing to get the earned media. i don't think this is unusual, just style points and i think this is where we are. >> how much more specifics will

we get? do you see more plans being released after that? >> i do. my job jar is full, anderson, so yes, i do. just to be blunt, yes, we are working on -- i think, again, we don't want to tip our cards too much but one of the things that happens is when you have candidates come out and want to roll out a 14-point plan and take a look at, you know, governor bush's plan that he's rolled out on taxes. a lot of people got some indication but you go to crowds and around and talk to the general public and ask them if they have seen it. they haven't seen it. and the worst part of it is if you have a candidate who is leading, when you start to roll out specifics, then people start to attack and pick those apart. this is when we say we'll build a wall. the candidates out there not in first place are saying that's

impossible. no supporting evidence of that. they just say you can't do it. why can't you? those are the kinds of things and if you look where we are in the second amendment and immigration, those are pretty specific. >> who do you believe is trump's biggest rival right now? because all the polls, he's leading the polls and going after marco rubio a lot lately and criticizing carly fiorina. is there somebody in particular that you're focused on? >> no, i would say no. i think generally it's the field, it's a lot like a golf tournament, you know, used to be the time when everybody would bet on tiger woods or they would bet on the field and i think that right now we have a lot of people betting on the field. i happen to be betting on donald j. trump. >> well, it seems to be paying off right now. sam clovis, appreciate you joining us. >> anderson, i've got to say i come on your show often enough, people will start talking so straight -- [ laughter ] >> all right.

>> great to see you. >> you take care, sam. up next, we'll look ahead to the next stop for pope francis in philadelphia. we'll cover that and i'll drive down there tonight and we'll be there all weekend and look at the pope's remarkable visit so far to the united states. ♪ (underwater noises in background) (scuba diver speaking french in background) say this tube is a 4g lte wireless network. verizon keeps your data flowing fast and steady. but some budget networks slow your data after you reach your limit. you can barely watch your shows. this is no way to treat people. a better network doesn't mess with your data. (underwater echo)

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getting a good night sleep, even if you are not, as he is, 78 years old. in terms of the schedule in philadelphia, what events does he have planned there tomorrow? >> well, anderson, philadelphia is waiting expectantly this big visit. this is the reason he is coming to the united states. he arrives here tomorrow at 9:30 in the morning. can you see the stage behind me, which is set for tomorrow's evening prayer for the festival of families. the world meeting of families, the pope will go first to the basilica to celebrate mass with his bishops and priests of the philadelphia area, then gets in the pope mobile, goes down to independence mall, stops where the liberty is, where the declaration of independence was

signed and there he'll give a talk on freedom to the immigrants, hispanic families and then of course he will continue on tomorrow night for the big festival of families. he'll close his big u.s. trip with sunday afternoon's mass again behind me here on the stage that they've been preparing all day. the excitement is really building here in philadelphia. we saw you had a great sendoff in new york but in a certain sense the party has yet to begin here in philadelphia. anderson? >> and it's true. over a million people may be expected to attend this outdoor mass of the world meeting of families on sunday? >> upwards of a million. they say the parkway can hold up to 2 million. we'll see how many can get here. the security is very, very tight. mayor nutter said before the event even started people should be prepared to walk miles because there is no

transportation once you get to this downtown area. it is all cordoned off. the shops are open, i saw plenty of families milling about so people have already walked miles, anderson, but the security is very, very tight here. perhaps even tighter than wa we saw in new york, just because of the distances and because he's here for two full days and a lot of people expected. >> that's saying a lot. thanks. it's safe to say the people of philadelphia and everyone watching at home has a lot to look forward to. here at home the pope's presence certainly galvanized this city, from the 9/11 service and even catching a glimpse of pope francis. we want to leave you with some of the sights and sounds of his

extraordinary visits so far. [ cheers and applause ] >> i look forward to these days your country. >> the pope of the holy see! >> i am most grateful for invitation to address this joint session of congress in the land of the free and the home of the brave. [ cheers and applause ] >> thank you very much and god bless america.

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>> incredible sights and sounds, it's not over yet. he's heading to philadelphia and i'm headed there now. i want to turn it over to my colleague, don lemon. >> do you and the pope ever sleep sleep? >> i hope he's getting some sleep. >> what stands out to you the most? >> being down at 9/11 with chris cuomo at the memorial and the service. and families showing the pope pictures of their loved ones. and there was a moment when he was at the south reflecting pool, sort of just by himself, archbishop on dolan was close to him and he was praying and the stark white figure in his white robe in front of that vta