call and switch to x1 from xfinity today. u your family. >> you can feel the excitement. >> excitement is growing in philadelphia. this is the reason he's coming to the united states. >> if there is anything about the pope, it's more than the man, it's the message. >> don't forget to pray for me. >> i decided, i'm going to do this. as simple as that. >> john boehner announcing he will step down, somebody that understands in governance, you gone get 100% of what you want.

>> this clown, marco rubio i have been so nice to him. >> what explains donald trump? >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo, allison camrota and mikaela pereira. >> welcome to this new edition of "new day." it's 6:00 in the east. allison and mik are if new york. you have me and the pontiff leads new york in a few hours. we are set up on the bengals man parkway. hundreds of thousands are expected to gather at the festival of families event. we will have to see what happens. >> the holy father will celebrate mass shortly after his arrival and deliver a major message at independence hall and end his day with a parade down this parkway, around city hall, before speaking at the festival of families. pope francis capped off his war

wind new york trip with a mass at madison square garden last night, challenging those gathered to the light traveling through our streets, calling them to love immigrants the homeless, the elderly. >> tense of thousands of people captured a glimpse of 78 as he led a procession through central park in the pope mobile. so we got a lot to cover. let's start with cnn's miguel marquez live at independence hall with a look at today. miguel. >> reporter: good morning there, chris. >> that light you mentioned will be traveling down this street. market street from city hall in philadelphia around here to this beacon o freedom and independence hall. he will spec from the leg turn that abraham used. this may be the last stop on his tour, butples will show up. >> may this lord be with you.

>> pope francis departing for his final stop after touching so many hearts here in the big apple. now the people's pope off to the city of brotherly love, philadelphia, where he is expected to draw crowds, surpassing a million people. like he did at st. patrick's cathedral in new york t. pontiff will celebrate mass at the za basilica of saints peter and paul and he will go to insurance hall. here pope francis sex pecked to deliver one of his biggest speeches on immigration and religious freedom to an estimated 40,000 people. >> excitement is really building here in philadelphia. we saw he had a great sendoff in new york. in a certain sense, the party has yet to begin. >> reporter: the pope ending his day at the world meting of ph familie families, the largest catholic families from around the world. >> it's a once in a lifetime. for city, it's just great.

>> reporter: pope francis will leave his last mass on sunday on u.s. soil. the pontiff expected to draw up to 2 million people, making his madison square garden mass of 20,000 in attendance seem intimate. "god is in the city," he said, urging them to remember the sick the needy a. sentiment he displayed as he walked into the arena, blessing children with special needs, their parents in tears. >> don't forget to pray for me. >> over 100,000 people bor witness to the leader of the catholic church in his nearly 40 hour new york tour people ecstatic to be in his presence, even if for a fleeting moment, like the tens of thousands that line the streets of central park. and what you are looking at there is the security barrier they had so many problems in new york. they hope to have those worked

out here today. tens of thousands of people will show up here to independence hall. tsa on stajdby, this city is on lockdown, but certainly ready and very excited for this pope. chris. >> all right. my friend, we'll check back with you in a little bit. did you hear miguel say 40 hours? i can't believe how much the pope put into that t. stamina of this 80-year-old. today will be different, we have cnn correspondent d'elia gallagher. michael, this is your city. we were talking about this, big numbers thrown out, 2 million, 1 million, 50,000 over here, so much shut down. tell us the plus-minus on that. >> i hope the seats will be full. i hope all of the space where we are and city hall a mile down the benjamin parkway, i hope it will be full. because, chris, it didn't get off on the right foot t. schuylkill expressway the main artery in philadelphia will be

closed. the peng men franklin bridge, which is the primary bridge you would take to philadelphia, it will be closed. and the septa will be closed all for security considerations. from is a worry in town that some people will stay late. i hope that's not the case. it's a great opportunity for philadelphia to shine. the weather is going to be terrific. people should come down today and see the pontiff. >> you are talking about the ghost of philly parades past where it doesn't get managed right. >> that's true. >> a note for people, they are doing a big tour, a lot of chances to see francis and when he speaks, it will be at the leg turn that abraham lincoln used for gettysburg. >> four score and 40 years ago. if i have the line right. as a political junkie, i have long had today circled on my calendar, because of the backdrop of 2016 of what he'll say about immigration and, christians, i hard not to lipsen to the pontiff's words about

immigration and the tone that he has struck in terms of being welcomingened not think of drumpb. >> you know, no question about i want. as much as you like to avoid it, it is hard to do. d'elia, it's not my word, someone was saying listening to the pope and it's cheap what's going on in our political dialogue set against the message of francis, families. this is a different area of c chatechism. >> there has been discussion that he wants to get people energized and excited about families. he thinks we are at a crucial point in society with families. obviously, included in that there are some political issues about marriage. the catholic church between a man and a woman. pope francis will continue that theme in families. also the ideas of abortion, of

birth control and so on. but the pope is surely going to concentrate on the fact that for him immigration, for example, one of the problems with it is that it breaks up families. another problem with families, he said the other day, is people are afraid to have families because of economic concerns. the other issue he says which might be relevant to this country is people have too many choices. >> that got an oh-of-out of me, have you too many choice, you think of yourselves too much and you don't start a family. >> you can't make the decision, who do i parry, when do i have kids? you put it off and you don't do it. i think he will concentrate on that message today. >> a little note with philadelphia. obviously, we all know is the city of brotherly love. i heard that penn picked philadelphia putting the dpreek words together because he wanted this a place free of religious persecution. what an interesting backdrop to have the pope coming here the catholic's main religious leader

from a place that is supposed to be all about freedom tolerance. >> freedom from religion, an important hallmark of what's going on in this event today. i found it interesting on that immigration theme that the very first public words that he spoke when the fiat pulled up on the south lawn of the white house, he den e then took the deus alongside the president. he spoke of being the son of immigrants, himself, and knowing that this country was built on the back of immigrants. i think immigrant is the word of the day today and a much more different tone when mass is separated here. >> so far, he has been soup were inclusive, super positive, you know, this is about all of us coming together to do things and their challenges. when it comes to family scriptures within the church, it's just a different tone, dellia. it's like you are supposed to be doing the right. . think of your kids first. i might have said, who do i judge? but marriage is a man and a woman and what you do with ending pregnancies is wrong. that's where he is.

>> he's brought it up in all of his speeches. >> i know it will be different down there. >> there is no doubt that's where he stand on it. he said it before. i stand with the church on all the traditional teachings. when we talk about him being an innovator and his welcome to people. he doesn't want people to 2350e8 feel excluded. he feels people have looked at the teachings of the church and says that doesn't apply to me. i am not a check. he said you can come in. ten we can talk about it. first you change the attitudes. thin you can chaening the other structures. >> he's a huge celebrity. bicker than anyone anticipated. i was a kid when john paul ii came here. that was huge. it wasn't like this the conservative part of the catholic church. there is a lot going on, they have been waiting for this moment. they want to hear what he says here. we will take you through it. this is going to be great. let's get you back to allison and mikaela for a look at other big stories going on right now. >> okay. chris, we look forward to your

coverage all morning. meanwhile, a leadership battle brewing in congress after that shocking announcement from house speaker boehner he will resign, for years he battled to bring the establishment and his tea party ring together. today it is mixed. the president called john boehner a patriot. on the heels of pope francis' historic visit. another marquee visit at the white house, president obama holding a lavish dinner for chinese president xi xinping. facebook mark zuckerberg and others were there. earlier in the day the president said the two leaders made significant progress on cyber security. the government hacking of databases has to stop. he threatens sanctions if it persists. here's a disturbing story, u.s. officials conofficialing syrian fighters trained by the united states gave equipment to al qaeda-linked forces in syria. trucks and ammunition were handed over to thealnoal nuzra .

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think about this. this morning i woke up, i said my prayers, as i always do. and i decide, you know, today is my to-do list. as simple as that. >> house speaker john boehner's stunning decision to resign came one day after an emotional meeting with pope francis. this morning, there is already debate over who will become the third in line to the presidency. let's bring in our cnn senior political reporter. good morning. >> happy saturday. >> all right. good morning. >> hi, what a turn of events yesterday. tell us how capitol hill responded. >> people were shocked. there have been rumors about what john boehner was doing for months. no one expected it for now. it happened in the middle of the congressional session.

john boehner had been criss-crossing the country, raising money for his republican candidates in the house, to hopefully keep the house in next year's election. it was clearly something on his mind he told his wife the night before that he was thinking about it. he didn't tell his staff until 8:45 in the morning when he announced it to the world just at about 9:00. so he didn't tell anybody. it was a closely held secret. it sparked a serious skwegs fight. he is stepping out. resigning his seat as well. >> we will talk about that in a minute about what comes next in the joke jockeying. jackie kucinich joins us. all of us watching the papal coverage saw during this pope's speech to congress a very moved, a very emotional john boehner

and some people are saying that this might have sped him up in his process him he did a little soul searching. is that what you are hearing this might have been the impetus to make the decision and not wait a few more weeks or months? >> he said he wanted to avoid a protracted leadership battle in the house. but you can't disregard the impact that this epope had on the speaker of the house john boehner. -se a life long catholic. he prayed for the pope every single day. so if he told this story every day in his press conference how the pope asked him. they had a moment alone together t. pope asked him to pray for him. boehner was telling this story to this conference full of supporters. he teared up again, so boehner was very touched by there pope. he seems i'm sure very at peace with his decision. >> in fact, jackie, i want to stick with you one more second.

you witnessed a moment or you report on a moment where a reporter asked boehner how he felt to be leaving and i quote, he said, zippety dodah, zippety day. what did he mean by that? >> he actually almost skipped on to like the stage, humming that. so, you know -- >> we all feel that at some point in our careers. >> it is true, very true. what he said was, he had made a decision to leave in the last cycle but he had to recalibrate what he was doing. mentally i think he was already there. it was the timing. >> i want to play for you. you would know that there is reaction from all corners of the hill and all representatives. ted cruz was speaking to a rally yesterday. let's listen to his sound. he is sort of letting the conservatives take credit for ousting boehner.

let's listen. >> you want to know how much each of you terrify washington? yesterday, john boehner was speaker of the house. you call come to town and somehow that changes. my only request is can you come more often? ? what's your reaction? it makes you three of what is coming next. that's obviously the big concern now is what is awaiting this faction and a voice a group of voices speaking loudly. >> in one sense, cruz is right. because there were 25 republicans who are going to vote against john boehner and what was going to be a pretty unprecedented vote on the floor to eject him from the speakership. if there were 29 voted for him. boehner would have had to ask democrats to vote for him to keep him in the chair. that's something that really undermined his speakership and

something he did not want to do. so in one way the conservatives really who are pushing very hard to oust him, were successful? pressuring to get out. the other. is he had a number of huge legislative battles to worry about this fall. not just funding the government, which boehner can figure out by next week, also raising the debt ceiling, that's always a big, big fight in washington. >> that hasn't happened in october a. long-term spending bill. he'd have to compromise and deal with conservatives not happy about. that so the question is can his successor deal with that? right now it looks like his likely successor is kevin mccarthy. the current majority leader, we'll see if he gets more success than running that divided conference. >> of course the tea party has not been happy with john boehner sense they helped to install him. they felt he didn't represent him. so will they be happy with kevin maccar think.

>> i don't know they'll be happy with anyone, frankly. no, they will not be happy with kevin mccarthy. you imagine, we haven't heard a name yet. i will say this about the tea party. they have had trouble coalescing around one person. we thought that was going to be the whip and he really has been kind of a disappointment to them in a lot of ways. because the major leadership you have to get stuff passed. >> we will ask you to stick around with us. keep us company here on saturday, our special edition of "new day" saturday. we will talk to you in a bit. bill clinton chance answering the fray, does he think donald trump can actually get the nomination? you have to 28 to hear that answer. [ male announcer ] he doesn't need your help. until he does. three cylinders, 50 horsepower. go bold. go powerful. go gator. go bold. go powerful. when you're not confident your company's data is secure,

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zblmpbls 25 minutes past the hour. some of the biggest movers and shakers within the democratic party are urging hillary clinton to give her husband's bill more in her campaign. he sat down, weighing in on the phenomenon that is donald trump. >> i got to ask you about drumplt as a great student of american politics, what explains donald trump? >> well, first of all, he's a master brander. and when you got a lot of people running, and people are trying to make distinctions being able to put a personal stamp on who people identify with who you are, it counts for something, certainly in the beginning. then he said to the working

class supporters of the republican party that have largely shifted over for cultural reasons, i'll give you an economic reason to vote for me. i'm build a wall around the southern border of america and i'll stop buying chinese imports. so now that will all have to be flushed out in the course of time and i'm sure the other future debates will do it. but he's got a lot of pizzazz and zip. he's branded himself in a clear way and he's generated some excitement. and it remains to be seen what's going to happen. it's an unusual election. you know, there doesn't seem to be much interest yet an their side, i think there is on our side, because both hillary and for sanders have laid out pretty

detailed positive policy positions, talked about what they would cost, and you know you can have a debate there where you can discuss the relative merits of their position on health care or generating jobs or whatever. but over there it seems to be more about resentments and one liners. i don't know, it's interesting. >> could trump will the nominee? >> i think so. >> wow. >> how do i know? i don't understand any of it very well. look, i have been out of politics a long time. i haveen run for office in 20 years. and also i'm not mad at anybody. i mean, you know i'm a grandfather. i love my foundation. i'm proud of hillary. i'll do what i can to help her. but i'm into the the best pundit anymore. i don't have a good feel for this all i know is what i think is good for the country and i think the country needs somebody

who can give us a broader share of prosperity, help families and kids, try to reduce the impact of all this huge anonymous money in our political system and in a world full of challenges, keep big bad things from happening and make as many good things happen as possible. that's how i would define the job of the next president. that's what i think. and so i think hillary would be a great president. >> you will get more of his interview with bill clinton in our 7:00 hour of new day. the former president weighing in on the campaign. can you see his entire interview tomorrow 10:00 a.m. and 1:00 p.m. eastern on cnn. let's head back to our brother in the city of brotherly love, christopher cuomo, good morning, dear. >> good morning, my friends.

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his final stop, philadelphia. he is set to arrive there in three hours and begin his philadelphia visit with matt. he will give a major speech at independence hall. tonight he'll appear at the star studded festival of families, along with actor mall mark wahlberg and soul diva aretha franklin. so who will be the next speaker of the house. it is the big question after john boehner stunned the world with his announcement. he has spent years struggling to bring the establishment tea party wings of his caucus together. the president called him a patriot. boehner's last day on the job is october 30th. hyundai recalling almost half a million cars in the u.s. to fix a critical engine problem. the recall potentially affects almost every between 11 year so na ta vehicle manufactured at the plant in alabama.

the problem is metallic debris could restrict oil flow and cause engine failure. so far there have been no reports of accidents or injuries. the city is preparing to bid farewell to philadelphia. it has been a big week. it's worthy of us to reflect on how great of a week it's been. >> there is no superlative that fits. epic, historic, those words seem tired compared to this. the man is leaving, hopefully his message remains. there have been so many moments. here's a look back. the people's pope, he's come with a message for the americas a and the world is listening. the 78-year-old pontiff made history by speaking ability tolerance and freedom, in

communist cuba. >> mr. speaker. the pope of the holy see. >> echoing the need for cooperation and respect for our world and the people in it. to congress, performing the near miracle of bringing lawmakers towing. >> i am most grateful for invitation to address this joint session of congress. the land of the free and the home of the brave. >> his presence moving hard bitten members to tears. but papa francisco is here for the people, not politicians, especially the littlest, like 5-year-old sophie cruz t. little girl carrying a letter and a drawing, asking his holiness to

urge congress to legalize her parents, both undocumented immigrants living in the u.s. francisc cannonized the first a university. passing by us as even we got caught up in the fervor. >> papa francisco! >> new york city became like vatican city for a day, streets stuffed with francis fans and faithful. a memorable scene at historic st. patrick's cathedral. >> many encourage the u.s. for their strength, telling them, quote, i love you very much. nuns in pews rising to their feet, following the footsteps of his predecessor, pope francis addressing the general assembly at the united nations, then to

ground zero, praying for the fallen. meeting with the families who have lost so much, while visiting our lady queen of angels elementary school in east harlem. students inside were eager to share their teachings. >> pope francis, the jesuit, true to form, gave the kids homework, but it was a coveted assignment, to pray for him. he left the students with this reminder. >> don't forget the homework. >> central park became a spect cam as it seemed every pathway was lined with eyeballs, anxious for a glimpse of the man whose boosted his church and a nation. the grand finale of his big apple tour the pope's triumphant arrival at madison square

garden, showing compassion and blessing children with special needs. rateer leading palace for some 20,000 catholics. >> may bless you in the father the son and the holy spirit. >> a lot of non-catholics in there, too. so many beautiful moments. what a man. dellia let me start with you, what did i miss? >> i think you got a lot of it. but there were so many wonderful moments, obviously, the pope was the jester. that's the way he teaches as well through his gestures. one of the. i thought was clever of the pope is what he said, you know, he always says, pray for me at the end and that's a sign of his humility. at the u.n. when he was talking

to the staff member, of course, recognizing they're not all catholic and he's ended his talk. pray for me. if you are not religious, wish me well. >> that was good. michael. >> i watched it all from home. your shout out was a particularly good moment. but what really chokes me up is when he has paused on a number of occasions to minister to the infirm, to special needs individuals, there was an african-american girl at st. patrick's cathedral in a wheelchair. it broke me up when he stopped and gave her a special policeing. >> just a great reminder of what matters, for me, i believe life is service, for me, if i had to pick an image, the fiat. it said so much about him. it's small because he's humble. he wants to talk about the environment. he has something more economical. i can't wait for the follow-up story from christine romans how many of those cars the pope version the franciscan they sell after that. >> i think he gave us all sort

of a shirttual tunpiritual tunes on service and so much so yesterday i got behind the wheel of my luxury vehicle and i was like, ew. what am i doing with my life? i have got to give back more. >> one of the moments i thought was so beautiful. when he visited east harlem. we all complain about the new generation of kid, how they like the wrong things, think rock stars and celebrities are the rock stars of their life. this is what i love. i don't think we have the video. he sat and had took selfies with some of the kids who were rushing to have a moment with the pope and that is a beautiful. . we can get behind the support and the beatification of such a holy, humble man. it's a beautiful. >> the ultimate star, the celestial star. >> we will be back with you

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you have this clown, marco rubio i have been so nice to him. i have been so nice. i have been so nice. and then now he's in favor of

immigration and he has been. he has been, he was the gang of eight. you remember the gang of eight. it was terrible. >> well, that was a conservative crowd booing donald trump when he insulted gop rival senator marco rubio. what's behind their new stat? let's bring in cnn political reporter and jackie kucinich. >> we missed you. >> i hope you guys grabbed a cup of coffee. jackie, is that the first time we remember donald trump being booed by what is supposed to be a friendly crowd? >> yeah, marco rubio had spoken earlier in the day, got a good reception from that crowd. so it seemed like they weren't liking that put down. rubio made a true calculation here. it seems to be playing out that way. he wants to attack donald trump. he wants to make him look small, petty. there he kind of did.

>> does he have to readjust his strategy? like you said, it's supposedly a friendly crowd. we also know, he did not take criticism well. i imagine he will take the boo as criticism. what happened? >> you know, the interesting. here is really the reflection of rubio's growing prominence in this republican race. you know, rubio has been really overshadowed for much of this year. we talked a lot about trump, of course. jeb bush and trump have gone back and forth and rubio, who has tried to stay away from the fray cease an opportunity as jackie said to not only make him look petty but also to showcase his own commander-in-chief credentials. >> that has been the one question about rubio whether or not he has the experience to be command were in chief, to run this nation and when he's trying to do is show his level of experience and contrast that with donald trump and in some ways, he's making some effective argument. the question, though, as we know will these punches land?

will this stick? because donald trump continues to maintain a lead in the polls, although it's narrowing, how much narrower will it get. how will donald trump react if he ends up in second place, he can say i'm no longer number 1 in the polls. it's a fascinating development to see this happen. >> a couple interesting polls, this is from wmur. they've pitted trump against possible democratic rivals. not against his republican rivals. obviously he would win the nam nation. here clinton wins in that matchup 50 to 42. the next is against bernie sanders, he wins, and then the next one ist hypothetical as joe biden gets into the race, he wins. jackie, do any of these mean anything or are these a fun parlor game to look at right now? >> i think this is a parlor game. ly say, you see trump's numbers

coming down. i won't say he is dead, my goodness, we all said it once or twice in this cycle. he's been wrong. but it does seem like his stick is wearing thin on people at this point. >> it's interesting, we had michael coen speaking for donald trump the spokesperson here speaking with you earlier this week and he said that donald trump doesn't attack unless he is attacked. we've seen this back and forth with he and rubio all week. so which is it? is it a news ptat, back and forth that he sees marco rubio, whose number versus come up on rnc and quinnipiac, those are coming up, where trump's are coming down. >> yeah, and it's also as you noted, if donald trump gets attackled, he attacks back. if he thinks you are his friend, he doesn't attack you. he hasn't attacked ted cruz? why? because ted cruz has tried to become donald trump's best

friend. so as a result donald trump doesn't feel the need to do that. even though cruz maintained a steady numbers in all of the polls, but still he sees rubio as not only a threat, but someone who is actually putting him down, donald trump as we know likes to punch back very, very hard. the question is rubio is a very well liked person among a conservative base. he alienates the people he is trying to court. >> thank you for waking up early with us great to have you on 80 new day. chris is covering pope francis' visit. what do you have, chris? >> reporter: look, we are here in philadelphia. this time it will be different, remember, pope francis is here. there is something pope benedict agreed to, to come to the festival of the family. now, this is a world meeting that was going to happen with or without the pope. this is different. this is about the church positions that often can rub liberals the wrong way. what marriage is for the church

as a man and a woman. what about abortion. what about birth control. these are the harder positions. what will the impact be?

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coming to us from central park. you can feel the energy. >> the excitement is building here in philadelphia. >> a major message on religious freedom at independence hall. >> if there is anything true about pope francis-se close to the people. >> more about the man, it's about the message. >> may god be with you. >> speaker boehner announced he will be resigning. >> i decided today is the day i'm going to do it. as simple as that. >> i grew up with my bible. >> this female. became the biggest story in the world. >> this is "new day." >> welcome to our viewerst in united states and around the world. this is "new day." allison and mikaela are in new york. mickal and i are coming to you from philadelphia live. we may experience a different pope francis here the final stop of what had been a blow away visit by the pontiff t. holy

father is leaving his residence at this hour. he is scheduled to arrive here in the city of brotherly love at 9:30 this morning. >> he will start with mass before delivering what is expected to be a powerful speech on immigration and religious freedom at independence hall. afterward, pope francis leads a parade here on the benjamin franklin parkway. then turns his attention to families. >> an emotional and exciting day ahead. we know that for sure, after this memorable visit to new york. including last night's moving mass at madison square guarden. he had a procession through central park. it was phenom' nam. today he will give a message that will strike a different tone on the family and our responsibility to the unborn in particular. what effect will that have on liberals who have been celebrating the pope thus far? let's begin our coverage with cnn national correspondent miguel marquez live at independence hall. my friend. >> reporter: what a big day. new york is big, philly will be bicker. he will come down this market

street here, city hall down that way to this cradle of liberty in the place where our democracy began, independence hall, a very, very symbolic speech here from the very lectern that abraham lincoln gave the gettysburg address. in the next couple of days, millions will turn out. >> may the lord be with you. >> reporter: pope francis departing for the final stop on his u.s. tour after touching so many hearts here in the big apple, now the people's pope off to the city of brotherly love, philadelphia, where he is expected to draw crowds surpassing a million people. like he did at st. patrick's cathedral in new york. he celebrates mass at the city's cathedral, basilica of st.s peter and palm. the pope will then visit independence hall the birthplace of the declaration of independence and constitution, here pope francis is expected to deliver one of his biggest

speeches on imdprax and religious freedom to an estimated 40,000 people. >> fightment is really building here in philadelphia. we saw he had a great sendoff in new york. in a certain sense the party has yet to begin. >> the pope ending his day at the world meeting of families the largest of catholic families from around the world. >> it's a once in a lifetime. for the city, it's just free. >> pope francis will lead the closing ceremony on sunday, his last mass on u.s. soil. >> the pontiff expected to draw up to 2 million people making his madison square garden mass of 20,000 in attendance seem intimate. >> god is in the city he said friday urging them to always remember r remember the forgotten, the sick, the needy a. sentiment he displayed as he walked into the arena, blessing children with special needs, their parents in tears. >> don't forget to pray for me.

>> reporter: over 100,000 people bor witness to the catholic church in his nearly 40-hour new york tour. people ecstatic to be in his presence, even if for a fleeting moment, like the tens of thousands that lined the streets of central park. now what you are looking at are some of the thousands of law enforcement officials who will be out here to secure the area for the pope. this city of philadelphia is certainly on lockdown. i want to point this out to you, guy, though, these are the very first people to show up to see the pope. how are you feeling? are you excited? [ cheers ] >> reporter: we will hear a lot more of that later in the day t. pope goes to mass and will come here to the independence hall. what a day. incredibility. back to you, chris. >> all right, miguel. we will be back with you in a bit. so a big moment is when pope francis leaves where he is in

the anunciar, where he has been resting, gets in that fiat. especially this time, it will be good bye to the big apple. he is expected to leave the papal residence this hour. let's get sarah ganam live. set the scene,py friend. >> reporter: hey there, chris, you know, after a 40-hour whirlwind tour here of new york city, the pope is wake up in the big apple before everyone wakes up. you can see here the crowds, there are some people that have come to watch him depart on his helicopter. nothing like when we saw him arrive here a few days ago. i tell you who is here, that is security. this road here we are standing on looks down manhattan, it's closed off, above us is the fdr highway, also going to be closed momentarily as the pope arrives,

you see the coast guard here. the escort of helicopters that will take the pope. where at 8:20, chris, he is going to board a flight that will end his tour of new york city and take off to the city of brotherly love to philadelphia, where he will go to wrap up this leg of there historic trip in philadelphia. chris. >> all right, sar remarks thank you very much, very interesting that the pope is going to be riding on those marine helicopters. he's got to get where he's got to get. let's bring in d'elia gallagher and cnn religious commentator father edward beck if that's the way to pronounce it? >> it is, you got it right. >> reporter: for a change, d'elia, okay, so, we're looking at a tone change as well as a venue change here. this is what pope benedict had agreed to come to on the world meeting of families, my mother spoke here earlier in the week about the need to mentoring in families. pope francis is coming here.

this will be different in terms of inflexion points. how so? >> in terms of his entire trip, of course, we finished with the major speeches in congress and the u.n. we finish with the peace and justice mass last night. now we move into the festival for the family t. family was the pain reason the pope was coming. in terms of his message in general, we know that pop francis, when he first became pope, one of the things he said, which actually he got some criticism for is that he didn't want to focus so much and talk so much about the issues of abortion or gay marriage, because people knew where the catholic church stood on that. and he did receive criticism from a conservative element in the catholic church for saying that, and a bit of confusion. and so since then, we've seen that in any case, he has mentioned on every occasion the church of traditional teachings. >> suddenly with nuance. >> he's mentioned it in the church language, you know, to protect life from its natural

conception, to its natural end and the right for a man and woman the marriage should be between a man and a woman. so that's kind of the church language for those two issues so he has had to reemphasize, he is fully in line with the teaching of the church. >> i think that's what this is. that's why i'm asking you, american catholicism it's a crucible. in a good way and a badway. i hear you catholic conservatives saying, he's saying things for everybody else. what about what we want to hear and right or wrong a lot of that directs father beck to the teaching specifically on marriage and on reproductive rights. francis used the word gay and said who am i to judge. people took that as code t. vatican came out and said, no, no, no, marriage is a man and a woman. he is saying don't focus your judgment on others, focus on service. what are the positions, what will be the impact?

>> first of all this pope is a universal donor, something for everyone. he comes to philadelphia and he is going to stress the sanctity of family and marriage as the church understands it, between a man and a woman. >> but look what happened before that. he talked about abortion, now abortion extending the forgiveness of abortion and other family issues, of course, except for day marriage. birth control has been an issue, what about those who want to receive and who are divorce and remarried. all these are a part of family life, too. we have a top agenda items in october for a sin-in. >> sin-in is a word for meeting? >> the conservatives are hungry. they want to hear what he has to say for them. what is he going to say? >> it is a tough line to walk. you are right. there was initial confusion i would say is this pope liberal or conservative? where does he stand?

he says i stand fully within the tradition of the catholic church i want to exclude those who have been excluded. he says he wants to do that in the practices of the church rather than changing the doctrine. >> family, baptize, children, he was saying, just because someone is a single mother, you don't deny baptism for this child. people have gone through rigamar are ole, you been advertise every child. he is trying to broaden the notion of family, they're not all perfect. they don't all fit the dplien. we have to include them anyway. >> i will tell you something, chris, it was interesting at the press conferences at the vatican before we came out here, the priest who was in charge of the canon law is sad the press conference on anulments and he said, quite as an aside, we'll follow up again in the vatican that one of the things they were talking about with the pope is the issue of registering baptism for gay couples.

so, for example, obviously, ban advertise the child of a gay couple if they should act. but one of the things parents have to do when they baptize their child is to adprae to raise the child in the catholic faith. so what do you do if you have a gay couple? >> you don't have to marry to baptize a child. that's the loophole. >> the problem there is if you have a gay couple who is already not living according to traditional teachings of the church, they will raise the child in that tradition, you know, is there a contradiction there? and how do you register a mother and a father? so those are the questions. >> i got you. you won't have to answer them, he s. will you have to figure out what you do in your church as clergy in terms of picking out what the conservatives wants you to do is follow the letter of the law, we are our orthodoxy or we are nothing without our orthodoxy or what francis is suggesting, creating the conservative liberalism. take the spirit of the rule.

don't focus so much on denial, on judgment, lover, mercy, inclux. >> what about the poor people who show up, they have a pastor who is not following these guidelines, is really by the book. i get this all the time. people come to me, i have to shop for a parish. i go to the next parish and say something else to bap tides them in this parish. not this parish? how is that the universal catholic church? >> so what's the job then? >> well, the bishops have to say to their priests and get on board with the bishop of rome and say to tear priest, it is not your decision. you must do this. and if you are not going to do it, then we're going to remove you and put someone else in who is going to. they have to take a strong line with this. >> that's why the sin-in is so important coming up. >> not just what but how, that's why people are saying as we get back to you, the message, it's not about the man, it's not about francis, it's the message, how will that message take root? here. all right. we have live picture as well. we'll take a look at.

that's cardinal do lan, the archbishop of new york. this has been a huge event for him in his tenure in new york city. you know why he is there. we are waiting for pope francis. it's going to be a big deal. he will hop in that fiat the last time before he gets to the chopper. >> cardinal dolan is easy to spot, he's foot taller than everyone else in the crowd. >> he is also wearing a red cap. >> he looks at the camera and smiles. he knows. >> come back and look at headlines, for you, who will lead the caucus in the final year in the obama administration? this after john boehner's announcement he was going to step down at the end of october. it's a fracture between establishment and tea part wings. boehner says he will finalize his decision hours before his announcement. update now on hillary clinton's e-mails. a newly discovered e-mail chain

dating back to 2009 re-igniting the controversy t. state department says the exchange of ten or so e-mails is to davis petraeus, then the head of the u.s. central command and dealt with personnel issues. also, there is a state department official who said that they have zompbd close to 1,000 benghazi related e-mails that have not been disclosed to the committee investigating the attack. the department said it had turned ever a owl reference on that health committee by benghazi. >> kim davis, long time democrat says she is switching her affiliation to become a republican. she feels abandoned by democrats in her crusade against same sex marriage. she made that on friday attending the value voters summit. well, john boehner's surprise resignation triggering a flurry of political maneuvering this morning. who is likely to replace him?

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just a few minutes ago, speaker boehner announced he will be resigning. [ applause ] >> that is a group of conservative voters giving a standing ovation after hearing about boehner's surprise resignation. already, lawmakers are wondering who will be next in line to be speaker. let's turn to florida congressman ted yoho. he ran against boehner to protest his leadership. thank you so much for being on "new day." >> thank you,alson. it's great to be here. >> what was your reaction when you heard this surprise announcement yesterday? >> it was kind of anticipated. i commend john boehner for stepping down to mover on and

solve america's people's prons problems in this country. >> you know the narrative the narrative is that john boehner was doing yeoman's duty trying to bring these waring factions or at least quite desperate factions of the gop together, this was actually a loss for compromise? >> you know people say that. you look at how congress worked, dysfunction and the american people and their sentiment towards congress. we got a 9 to a 12% approval rating. it's things like the debt ceiling that the government shut down two years ago. we have not had one discussion until last week about the debt ceiling. that's the dysfunction the american people see. that's the dysfunction we need to sew that we can create solutions to those, those are the things that the american people have reached out and said when are you guys going to start getting work done? with mr. boehner stepping down, we'll install a new leader.

we will put the emphasis on start solving the problems. >> who do you think that leader will be? >> there are several people in the running. i don't know at this point. i can tell you. we'll go through a process where we vet these candidates. we make sure they will stand on the pinsples that will solve these problems and start solving the problems for the marine people t. people out there sitting watching this today, drinking a cup of coffee this morning. they want us to start solving problems like imdprax. that's gone on for 30 years. in fact, i heard somebody yesterday in leadership said they have been working on a problem for 30 years in walk. the american people don't want us working on problems for 30 years. they want them resolved. that's really the gridlock that we see up in walk. >> kevin mccarthy's name has imploded. how do you feel about that? >> at this point i'm not going to come out and endorse anybody until we go through that vetting process, there is a lot of questions about are you going to operate the house on principle or is it going to be over power

and money and bill should be brought up on the principle of those what they stand on from the initiative of the member. >> congressman peter king gave his take on what happened yesterday. he echos the thought of many democrats. let me play what he thinks is wrong. >> this signals that crazies have taken over. this never happens, a person doing the job the speaker of the house is removed from office by a small faction because they have unreasonable demands, if you don't agree with them, you shut the government down, this is insanity. >> he says unreasonable demands, the crazies have taken over the party. >> mr. king ask have his opinions, to call people names and crazies, that's childish. look at the facts, though, in 1989, our country owed $2 trillion in debt. toot we're over 18 trillion in debt. the establishment, the status quos are the ones that have left us there. again, i came from private practice as being a veterinarian

to congress three years ago because of the inaction in congress. why is immigration fought fixed? we have been talking about responsible immigration reform, the people, the pope talked about solving these problems and it's because of the gridlock and the status quo in washington, what this shows is that that gridlock can be broke and the establishment's back can be changed so we can get on and have government by the people and for we the people. >> even some republicans say that this doesn't show that the gridlock can be broken. what it shows is that you have won the battle, but not necessarily the war. let me read to you what eric cantor has said. >> absolutely. >> from today's "new york times." he, of course, lost his seat in a prime aer to a tea party challenger. he says it is imperative we fight for what we believe in. we should fight smartly. i never heard of a football team that won by throwing only hail mary pass, yet that is what is demanded of politics today, in

congress, this means incremental progress, winning hearts and minds the kind of governance ronald reagan perfected. a government shutdown is not an incremental progress. what he is talking about is you are aiming for these hail mary passes. >> no, absolutely not. you know, eric was a dear friend of ours, and he left. he's not there anymore. it's a different ball game. and you know, you talk about the government shutdown and again this goes back to my original argument t. government shut down in december, 2013. they shut down for 16 days until october of 2013, why have we not had one discussion in congress in fact hal rogers the chairman of the appropriations committee, was quoted in the hill newspaper on july 27th saying that he has requested of john boehner over and over again to have discussions, conference meetings, strategy sessions on how we will deal with $1

trillion in debt. if you lead, why would you wait until the last days of congress to try to decide how you will solve your debt crisis. see, this is crisis management and this is why we don't get things done, because of that lack of leadership. so i disagree with many cantor. >> okay. congress tan ted yoho, thank you for being on "new day." with your procedure specttive. >> thank you, i appreciate it. >> we are live as the pope leaves new york city, first, former president bill clinton weighing in on his wife hillary's e-mail controversy. does he think it's a big deal? what he told our fareed zaccaria next. .

>> former president clinton sat down with our fareed zsa kara to explain why the server hillary clinton used is not such a big deal. >> there will be a new president in 2017, january, you, some would say the most skilled students of american politics, why do you think hillary clinton is having a tougher time than many imagined? the lead in the national polls in iowa and new hampshire seems tough. >> i think you know why. i think you know why. from 1992, i received a call, in

'91, before i started to run for president. from the bush white house, from a man, he said, we've looked at the field, are you the only one that can win. the press has to have someone every election. we're going to give him you. you better not run. all of a sudden something nobody thought was an issue, whitewater that turned out never to be an issue winds up being a $70 million investigation and all the hammering happened and u.s. voters, do you really believe this amounts to anything? no, do you trust him as much? no. there must be something. so this is just something that has been a regular feature of all our presidential campaigns, 20 in 2008 for unique reasons. ever since watergate, something like this hams. i'd rather it happen now than later. and it was always going to happen. the other party doesn't want to run against her. if they do, they'd like her as mangled up as possible. and they know that if they leak

things, say things, that that is catnip to the people who get bored talking about what's your position on student loan relief or dealing with the shortage of mental health care. we are seeing history repeat itself and i actually am amazed she's born up under it as well as she has. but i have never seen so much expended on so little. there have been aing shoing number of really reputable press people who have explained how you can't receive or transmit classified information, how the deposit has no central authority for classification that the state and intelligence actions have their own. there have been a lot of fun things, they don't seem to show up on television very much. it is what it is, i think she

went out and did her interviews, said she was sorry her personal e-mail caused all this confusion and she'd like to give the election back to the american people. i trust the people. i think it will be all right. but it's obvious what happened, you know, at the beginning of the year, she was the most admired person in public life. she earned it. why? because she was being covered by people who reported on what she was doing. the new star treaty the iran sanction, crippling the number of people on aids getting medicine for no more tax money. america, when she was left officer, our approval rating was more than 20 points higher than it had previously been. what happened? the presidential campaign happened. and the nature of the coverage shifted from issue base to political. and it happened. you can't complain this is not, this is a contact sport. they're not giving the job away. and people who want to race

wanted her to drop some and the people in the other party desperately wanted it. because she's already put out more positions on more issues and said how she would pay for it. i think than all the others combined, based on the two, the republicans based on the two debates that i saw. >> but you think it's a republican plot, really? >> no, i'm not going there. because that's what, it's not a plot makes it sound like it's a secret. no, i think that there are lots of people who wanted there to be a race for different reasons and the only way they can make eight race is a full frontal assault on her. so this e-mail. became the biggest story in the world. >> very interesting to hear his perspective. you can see for his entire

interview, it will air tomorrow, on that seed zsa kara gps right here on cnn. cham we? >> let's check in with chris. a thumbs up. >> that's progress. >> listen, the sun is coming up. >> reporter: that's the effect pope francis can have on a city. though i har it comes up every day, which may be a coincidence. we will follow the pope's final visit in the big city. it's always a big deal when the pope goes somewhere, semi-especially now he developed this caricature figure of this fiat. this military plane will come here to philadelphia. we will follow it all the way through. get you that big moment. then we will talk about what will happen when he comes to the city of brotherly love. stay with us. .

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it's a great, great trip we have been following, have you the man, pope francis. you have the one we are about to see as he leaves, where he stayed overnight in new york city, of course, headed here, where we are to philadelphia. he's going to get in that fiat. people will go crazy. he will get on the main helicopter here. >> that will take him to the airport. then it comes to the city of brotherly love. have you the man the moment, of course the message. >> that will happen in your independence hall. the pope will be speaking from a leg turn that abraham lincoln used for the gettysburg address, remember, the pope mentioned abraham lincoln when he was speaking to congress as one of the four americans that embho

embhoid -- embodied our views, the democratic governor of pennsylvania tom wolf. governor, thank you very much for being with us. >> thank you, chris, for having me here. can i mention three things? >> first of all, the sun does come up every day here in philadelphia. >> good to know. >> the pope i think was in a jeep yesterday. >> a wrangler. >> which i drive. >> same one? >> same one. not yet, and third, this is the city of brotherly love and sisterly affection. >> oh. i'm sorry, i didn't see that on the license plate. >> we're working on it. >> state government, it works very slow t. first point is a serious one, are you ready from a security preparations standpoint? >> well the proof is in the pudding. we'll know tomorrow evening. we have done everything, the commonwealth of pennsylvania has done everything to support philadelphia and the federal agencies to make sure the pope's visit a safe and secure one t. only. we want people here to enjoy

themselves. we want them to come away from philadelphia, all of our guests and visitors, coming away from philadelphia, pennsylvania with the sense they want to come back. >> love it here, a beautiful place. great people t. concern, of course, is that it's so locked down. thety is so secure, that it might dissuade people from coming. you heard the rumors of peopleing getting away from the pope. how do you balance, how do you encourage them to come? >> we tried to do our best in the balancing act. we want both things. we want safety and security. we want people to have a good time t. last. we want is for people to feel they're not welcome here. if we've done that, we've gone too far. we will see tomorrow how we did. >> as you have been watching the momentum build, have you been surprised how big the reaction, how electric, how unifying the pope has been? >> no, i think he's an electrifying force. he is a world leader who stands

for some amazing things, has some great values. i think he deserves the accolades he gets. i'm honored. i think all of us in pennsylvania, we're honored he's chosen pamplt to spends two days. >> i was surprised, myself. i thought he exceeded expectations, i was amazed with the skyscrapers and what he was doing at the time with solidarity, what happened with communism. but the way that this man has transcended what has been an ugly political environment and social dynamic, he has really brought people to weigh in, in numbers i didn't expect. this is supposed to be the biggest one. he is coming to the world meeting on the family. pope benedict agreed to it. it started with benedict in '74. my mother is here this week. she loved it. he's going to give a different tone here. he's going to be talking about some of the things the liberal catholics don't like to hear.

marriage is between a man and a him who. you have a responsibility to protect the unborn from the moment of conception, how do you think that plays here? >> i'm not sure. he's also going to talk about things people care about more broadly, fairness, justice, in welcoming to people of different faith, different nationalities. i think those are 24i7x things we all need to hear. i think that's why he is resonating around the world. those are fundamental themes that all of us, liberal or conservative need to care about. he will be talking about that i hope in this message here. >> there have been certainly a check with the small universal principles he has brought to bear about our duties of tolerance and responsibility and not focusing on judgment all the time. where do the people in your state come down on these bedrock issues, liam and plilg political issues, about the rights of the unboerne and about what marriage is supposed to be? >> i think people differ, i think most pennsylvanians pay great tribute to our roots.

william penn founded this commonwealth on the basis of religious tolerance and freedom. on freedom of conscience the nation. or democracy was born here in philadelphia. and i think most pennsylvanians pay tribute to those fundamental ideas and values. >> we're all excited for the message. you are going to be the man of the hour here. you've got on this very spiffy looking tie and suit. are you going to pleat the pope and when, of course you are, what are you going to have prepared for that moment? >> to speak of, you cannot blow that moment. it's huge. it lends all the scrutiny. >> thank you for building up the pressure so much here. >> what do have you planned for? >> the tie actually is a tribute to your brother. he wore the same type yesterday. >> that is not a good omen, well dressed people in public officer, everybody says. >> i am so looking forward to meeting the pope. we are all going out to the airport to greet him when he comes off this plane. i hope to be with him throughout the weekend. so i'm hoping i get a chance to at least give him the warm

pennsylvania welcome he deserves. >> oh, boy, he certainly does. you will become, governor, what they call a relic by contact when you have that proximity to the pope. so you will have a little bit of special holiness on you, remember that. >> thank you very much, chris. >> governor, appreciate it. good luck here. thank you for having us. >> thank you. >> all right. back to you in new york, allison, relic by contact. i'd qualify for that as well. >> you also look very spiffy. right now, we are looking at live pictures. this, of course, is the upper east side of new york, courtesy of wabc. we are getting ready for the pope to depart. of course, we're following his journey all day as he says good-bye to new york city this morning. he heads to philadelphia where chris is, but first, speaking of journey, anthony bourdain is back, season 6 of cnn "parts your honor known" premiers this weekend. we will have a preview of that and more of pope francis' journey.

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>> the culture is so strong, it will take a lot of boats, cruiseships. we are always like this. with or without tourists. >> we are always like this anthony bourdain "parts unknown" has waited long enough t. new season is finally here. season 6 of the award winning premiers this sunday with episoedz in cuba, istanbul,

charleston, south carolina to name a few. he talks about his travels, world renowned chef and host, anthony bour dawn. what will surprise us from there season. let's start with cuba. >> i think we will be shocked. i was shocked when everyone watches the show will be shocked how much cuba has changed in the last few years. i went five years ago and going back, this time, a whole different story t. toothpaste is out of the tube as far as freedoms and castro is still very much in charge. but there are individually owned and operated businesses everywhere, running out of people's house, they are in no way prepared for what's going to happen at any real soon, meaning boutique hotels, you know, funny colored drinks, cruise ships, we're not going to recognize. >> is that a part of the conversation or do you find that people are sort of wanting to hold onto the traditional cuba

that they have known and loved, or what did you find happening? >> i think that's a big question, how they're going to deal with that, even very poor cubans living in these cookie cutter sold this morning public housing projects in santiago, cuba, each little sort of project has a doctor on site, free medical care. they do have free education, to what extent will they loads those things when the world changes? and it's changing so fast. >> what do they anticipate the most in terms of like what's going to happen with food and culture? what do you think they want to put out there for people to see? >> let's be clear. people are careful what they have to say. they have to be necessarily careful what they say to us. events are constantly outpacing policy. people's artistic expression, drag racing, music, there are nightclubs and galleries, when everyone has access to twitter,

social media and television, which they don't now. who knows? i think it's just happening so fast. it's impossible to say. >> let's talk about some of the other places,est i don't want pa, california bay area borneo istanbul, charlesson, south carolina. tell us of some of the delicious food you have consumed in any of these places. >> charleston is sort of a food hub. it's one of those sort of odd and anomalies that you find around america for some, actually for very good reason, developed a really fan traftic food culture. local resident bill murray helps us navigate. >> oh, no way. >> it will be fun. and i went to ethiopia with marcus samuelson. >> the chef. >> marcus has an interesting

story. his, he was adopted as an ethiopian, adopted largely in sweden an america, his relationship with the country of his birth is really interesting and complicated. so to, you know, look at both his home village where he was born, and his wife's -- his wife maya's village, two very different cultures within ethiopia. extraordinary country, ethiopia, just like every other country in africa was not caught on. very unique history and cuisine and fascinating personal story. >> one weird thing that you eat in this season that you haven't eaten before? >> to me, a cinnabon is weird, you know? >> anthony, great to see you. the new season "anthony bourdain

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we do have some breaking news we want to show you live pictures right now of the pope departing. the papal n.unc iio up there. the pope is getting into the motorcade. you can see preparations being made there with security folks jumping in the hatchback. there on the right side of your scene. we'll have much more of the pope's journey, when we come right back.

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thanks for visiting us, your family. [ applause ] >> the holy father's leave the papal residence in new york city. >> excitement is really building here in philadelphia. this is the reason that he is coming to the united states. >> if there's anything true about pope francis, he is close to the people. >> more than the man, it's about the message. >> don't forget to pray for me. [ applause ] >> i just love it. you know.

today's to-do list. >> john boehner announcing the stepdown. >> realizing you don't get 100% of what you want. >> this clown, marco rubio. ahh, look at that beautiful sight here in philadelphia, as we welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "new day." you see alisyn and michaela there in new york. michael smerconish and i are coming to you from the city of brotherly love. it is called philadelphia. the final stop of pope francis' six-day u.s. tour. just minutes ago, that motorcade pulling out of the papal nuncio. heading down to the military helicopter pad. we're at the ben franklin parkway where hundreds are

thousands are expected to gather to see the holy pontiff. >> it will be another busy day for the holy father. he'll begin on independence mall and end his parade down this parkway around city hall and also speak at the festival of families. >> what a trip pope francis has had. he capped off the whirlwind with masses of crowds, 20,000 people. not all of them catholic, by the way, which is a great ticket to have. he was asking people to be light traveling through our streets. called the beloved immigrants, the homes, the forgotten, the elderly. but now we're going to see a different papal presence at the festival of the family. we'll tell what you that means, we start with cnn's sara ganim in new york city. what have you got there? you staked out your territory.

what's the latest? >> reporter: that's right, chris, we hear the pope is just moments away from pier 11, on the lower east side. those are the marine helicopters that we expect him to board. you said, it was a whirlwind tour here in new york, after 40 hours meeting with school children, immigrants and the poor. he's kind of sneaking out of the big apple this morning before everyone wakes up on a saturday morning. just a very small crowd here gathering. much different than what we saw when he arrived here about a day and a half ago. but i'll tell you what hasn't changed, and that is security, chris. we're seeing now that this street that i'm standing on, it loops down the lower edge of manhattan is now closed down. there's actually a motorcade that appears to be arriving there. but not quite sure if it's the pope just yet. but the fdr highway above us also shut down. you see the coast guard down here guarding this pier 11 where he is.

you know, he's going to board this helicopter. it's going to take him to jfk international airport. about 8:30 this morning, he's going to get on that flight, with that, chris, that is the end of his tour of new york city. and everything moves to where you are, to philadelphia, to the city of brotherly love. where he will wrap up this historic u.s. trip, chris. >> all right, sara, give us a tip, look for the fiat. when you see a fiat, it will have a pope isn't it in all likelihood. >> reporter: i know, it's a tiny car, chris. it's a hard thing to see out here. but we do see some flashing lights. >> but it's become a huge symbol. >> reporter: i think he's on his way. >> we'll keep live pictures up. the pope is then expected to get here in about an hour and a half. cnn's miguel marquez is live in front of independence hall in philadelphia with a preview of events.

migu miguel, i hear there are already people getting in the pew? >> reporter: it's just the beginning of what we're going to see. if washington was big politics, and new york was the big city, it is going to be big, big massive crowds here in philadelphia over the next couple of days. million s expected to come out and seat pontiff. he will start at the bass iilic sts. peter and paul. we're just hours away at the cradle of american democracy, and people are already gathering we expect about 50,000 for the festival of family, the world family meeting about 500,000. tomorrow for the big meeting, the big mass for the world family meeting or festival of families. up to 2 million people expected. he'll also meet with prisoners at a local prison here, manage that the pope has done many times before underscoring the

theme, immigrations freedom and helping the needy and those in the greatest peripheries of society. chris. >> miguel, thank you for setting the context and giving us a sense of the continuent. we will lead up to the live pictures from where he's leaving from and going to which is of course where we are. let's bring in cnn vatican correspondent delia gallagher and edward beck to talk about what's come here. i've been trying to depict this as a departure. something that will draw contrast to the pope what you've seeing before. you've been shooting it down. i will try again, here in philadelphia this was the world meeting of the family. pope benedict agreed to come here. pope francis making good on that. started by john paul ii. again, they're going to be talking about things that are

very different in nature in terms of content and emphasis. these are more hard-line family issues and positions that aren't as popular to what the pope has been saying so far. >> well, i continue to say that the pope will be doing both. he will obviously be re-emphasizing, you know, the family for the catholic church consists of the mother and father. a man and a woman and lots of children. or maybe not too many children, remember, the pope said, two or three children. i didn't want to say -- >> rabbits -- >> okay. so he said, and two or three children. but, anyway, the traditional teaching of the church, marriage between a man and woman. no abortion, no birth control, so on. stands for this pope. and we're going to hear that. but he's also said that we don't need to talk so much about the traditional teaching with regard

to abortion or gay marriage, for example. we can talk about also welcoming people in. about encouraging people. about making sure that those who have felt excluded because of some of the teachings don't stay away. >> right. however, there is a portion of the church, especially in america the conservative wing who say, we want those people to stay away, father beck. because of the teachings and what makes us catholics, our rules, and we have the pope telling us the rules and we don't like it. is he going to give those people satisfaction here in philadelphia? >> if satisfaction means rules matter first and foremost, then no. mercy inclusion and serving the poor matter first and foremost. family is extremely important to him. since when has family become about gay marriage and abortion? why are these the only issues we're talking about when we're

talking about family life? what about families impacted by the economy? what about families struggling in what he calls unfettered capitalism? to this point, he's said those are not the paramount issues when it comes to family life. and you will hear him talk about family life in many different contexts when he's here. >> the reason that the media has focused it on it -- comma -- and you, you, as priests, say, hey, marriage, you're stopping our ability to have religious freedom. you're forcing us to be in the midst of gay marriage which is an insult to our faith, we have that kentucky clerk who said she couldn't sign the licenses because this is an infringement on her faith. now, you're trying to make it easy to get to abortions and slip around, and you're supposed to be defending the line. pope francis, the captain of that team? >> right. the church teachings on marriage

is open to law. that is not going to change. man and woman procreating. do you tell them to go away, you're not included? or do you say there's still a place for you, come along with us. is that excluding people or including that, a virtue, what you do and how you do it, and then your hearts change. he believes you do that first. >> if you believe in gay marriage, i'm not going to convert. i'm gay, you're not going to change me. on the other side, you don't want that inclusion because want the hardline. let me see if i can get a pohon call into pope francis see if he can answer this -- they're heading down the east side of manhattan to gel to the

heliport. you can see he's going there. he's going to be getting in the marine choppers, getting to the airport and coming here. why are we obsessing on this point? because people love to see the pope pope in motion. to a man who has excluded the expectations of not just boosting his church, making people what they feel, or if they feel nothing enjoy a message of inclusion at a time in america when it's so divisive. i felt like i was really slapping you around from a logical perspective. delia, help him out. >> i do want to say, you know, when the pope said, who am i to judge? that started the whole thing. it started his popularity, both with a more liberal side, a little bit of confusion on the conservative side. and it's true, it's a very fine

line to walk because you don't want to judge the person. you do want to set up a model for what the catholic church considers a good way to live. that's a question that's gone back for 2,000 years and before to the greeks. how should we live? what is the best way for us to live? of course, in the catholic idea that there say god that has certain ideas about how is it good for to us live. so i think the pope is trying to set out that positive angle. this is a way, you know, we think it's good for you to live. but, of course, the church does make certain judgments. there's got to be a balance somewhere. >> that means rules. that is the emphasis for a lot of people, father. you know that, i'm not arguing the points, i'm just laying that out to you. >> rules are supposed to support the relationship with god, if they don't support the relationship with god, you should get rid of them. they don't exist for the sake of just having laws. >> one of the interesting things

when we say somebody changes the approach or changes the practice, in effect, what happens is, perception is reality. if you change the approach, maybe you don't need to change doctrine. >> right. >> hold on for a second, look at the screen. everybody's got the smartphones. you here's the supporting vehicles. there's the fiat. low on the screen because it's small. and the other ones are big. remember, we love that it's small. we love that peaks to what francis in his native tongue calls his humility. it's a criticism of the vatican and church in its highest forms and they doesn't like that. also, he talks about global warming, he wanted something that's economical. >> chris, i have to say in italy, that is not a small size car. that's a medium size car. they're wondering why we're making a big deal about this because in italy, it's not so small. have you ever seen a smart car? >> yeah, i have one in my back

pocket right now. >> did you hear delia's theological reason for? >> what is it? >> i think the pope wanted to drive around in the capital of new york city, the word fiat which is mary's first word to the angel, he said, you're going to give birth to jesus, and he said, be it done to me, you've heard that. so in latin it means yes. fiat. i think the pope is driving around with this big yes and it's a message for everybody to open up. >> see, we kill two birds with one stone with theology. >> delia is the vatican authority. have you heard that from anybody else? >> no, i've just made it up. >> has anybody ever suggested that to you in any way? >> no, but i'm so in tune in the last 17 years with what the

vatican thinks. >> theology comes from the people up, right and you are the people? >> no, i think somebody at the vatican thought about that. >> so you give me a hard time about what i think is going to be a change in the tone because of what the church says. but you feel comfortable with the feeiat et cetera, et cetera? >> yeah. >> what do you think, please tweet delia. we'll keep our eyes on the pope. going into the chop are and we'll be following his departure. house speaker john boehner is set to step aside. right after being with the pope, he said this is how it came down in his heart and his head. what does this mean going forward? is this going to help or increase a divide in the republican party? we discuss. le? thanks to angie's list, now it is.

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and here is a shot of downtown manhattan heliport. the pope has just arrived there. he will be soon be boarding that helicopter, and he'll be flying to jfk airport where he will then get in shepherd 1, the airplane, as it's known, when he flies in it, and heading, of course, to philadelphia for his final stop in this incredible u.s. journey. we've been watching every step of the way the enthusiasm for him. so, you can't see the pope's fiat behind that helicopter. but it is there, and very soon, he'll be taking off and of course, we will show this to you and show you all of the live comings and goings as they happen. meanwhile, other big political news, of course, that is that speaker john boehner is resigning not only his speakership but congress. he will be leaving next month. now what, who will fill that position? joined by michael smerconish.

michael, great to see you. i know you're having a wonderful time in philadelphia. >> keeping chris in line. that's all i can tell you. >> well, it's a full-time job, we can tell you. let's talk about this stunning news that surprised capitol hill and what speaker john boehner said he said it didn't have to do with the emotional meeting that he had with the pope. but it's sort of hard to separate those two out yesterday. >> it felt like an impulsive decision, didn't it? it leaves a skeptic like me wondering what's the rest of the story? because you don't just give up that gavel. and yet, on the other hand, it makes perfect sense to me that he was probably sick and tired of trying to herd cats. eric cantor, he wrote an op-ed in "the new york times" and he said no football teams by throwing hail marys alone.

it can't be an easy job. so your question of who's next? i say, geez, who really could manage it given the competing forces. let's talk about, you know, what's going to happen in a second. but i want to play some comment. obviously, there's been wearing reaction and strong reaction because it caught so many people by surprise. there was a very interesting and telling sound that i want 0 play from republican peter king. let's listen to that. >> i think it signals that crazies have taken over the party. this has never happened before in our party where a person doing the job, speaker of the house was removed from office because of a small faction, if you don't agree with them, you shut the government down. this is insanity. >> so, i'm curious, what are your thoughts? i mean, obviously, there is a divisiveness, there's a division in this party right now. democrats are going to say it shows the fractured nature of the gop.

as you mentioned about looking forward, how are they going to mend those fences and how are they going to bring those two sides, the establishment and the tea party, together in the future? >> you know it's interesting you heard peter king talk about the crazies. charlie dent a moderate from pennsylvania saying it's the rejectionists in the party. they're both talking about the exact same influence. michaela, we see it in the presidential race, those individuals defeigned from boehner's existence, this schism has got to be resolve and grow it or win house seats and not the white house. >> but the other side is what does a political party want most? it wants to win. but second to that, it wants to know who it is ideologically. that is something significant to

partisans. it's not just about all the jaundice things that we cover in washington. the timing is compounding, it simply is. even though the spoker himself spoke on it, we didn't get any clarification on. and it is weird after the biggest moment he leafs. unless he knew there was a bad moment coming unless he thought why don't you wait until monday and do it. >> right. >> maybe it's because they have a bomb waiting for him about funding the government, and not planned parenthood, they were going to put boehner on the spot, after his big vote, he was going to get thrown under the bus again and he wanted to go out on his own terms. >> the individual who spoke most warmly about speaker boehner, president obama. >> yes. >> i look at this, i thought those two could have issued the

grand bargain on the title and fiscal reforms necessary, that said to me, obama recognizes boehner as a guy who would really rather negotiate the deal. >> then why didn't it happen? >> because i think he couldn't control his caucus. i think boehner could not control what peter king calls the crazy element within the party. >> numerically, he could have done it. >> i don't think he the number. it's on obstinate hard core that it couldn't take place. >> how much more do you put on boehner and the president not enforcing it? >> i think it's a two-way street. i heard individuals say boehner just took his first ride on air force one. to me, i think obama should have invited him earlier. thing gentleman who is going to speak talked about polarization in his remarks the other day. i'd love him to say more about that in philadelphia. >> michael, hold that thought for a moment because we are watching the helicopter fire up its propeller there.

the pope is now on board. and as we know, the pope will be flying from his helipad in downtown manhattan to jfk where he will get on shepherd one, the plane that will be taking him to philadelphia. of course, we will bring you that live when that happens. but first, we're going to take a very short break so we can watch the pope continue his journey. we'll be right back. ♪ (woman) one year ago today mom started searching for her words.

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it is called marine one when the president is in it. but it is carrying the pope right now to jfk airport right by the statue. >> that's beautiful. a great point. look at that. a perfect morning. perfect morning for this. >> yeah, we saw him just moments ago take aww from the helipad there in manhattan. quite a departure from new york. different from what we saw as tens of thousands of people gathered to see him. but now had he heads off to philadelphia where we know there's great expectation about his arrival there in the sister of brotherly love and sisterly affection from the governor. >> yes, we've heard sisterly affection. that's wonderful. that's a great shot, right there. >> on their way to jfk, and then they will fly to philadelphia. >> we will bring all of that to you live as it happens.

but another big head line to tell you about today, because there was this conservative crowd. it was at the value voters summit. and it actually booed donald trump when he insulted gop rival senator marco rubio. what is the spat between these two and why did the voters reject donald trump. let's bring in ron brownstein. and political commentator for the new yorker. guys, thanks for being with us on this special saturday morning. >> good morning. >> donald trump was doing his usual thing, he was attacking his gop rivals. but this time it got a different reaction, listen to this. >> you have this clown marco rubio. i've been so nice to him. i've been so nice. no -- but he's in favor of immigration. and he has been.

he has been, he was the gang of eight, you remember the gang of eight that was terrible. >> explain that moment. that was the first time we've heard a crowd seem to turn on donald trump. >> yeah, at long last, sir, someone once said. i mean, look, donald trump has this extraordinary posture, anytime anyone shows any life in the polls he attacks them personally with language you that don't flare a presidential candidate and would not expect from a president, to call one of the rivals a clown. rubio has come up in the polls and criticized donald trump on his policy. and trump went after him. the difference is, rubio -- i think people have kind of hit their limit with it. rubio does have vulnerabilities with the like particularly with donald trump turning to the support on immigration reform

but i think that serial personal attacks on the candidates one by one, who knows, maybe they've hit the wall. >> it's interesting anybody in public speaking knows the rule that you should know your audience. was this a miscalculation on donald trump's part? >> you know, i think he assumed that the audience was with him as they have been in most public appearances. and when he goes after one of the governors or senators from the right, you know, he usually attack from the right which is obviously popular in a republican primary, i think he assumes he's on safe ground. as ron pointed out, rubio's big vest vulnerability with conservative voters is the fact he was a member of the gang of eight, with the intent to pass comprehensive immigration reform but as he pointed out, what he didn't realize is that rubio is very strong with that crowd, he's very strong with

evangelical voters. he has high approval ratings. there's not a big faction of the gop that dislikes marco rubio. he's one of the candidates if he get ace little more publicity has a lot of potential because people aren't against him. so, i think you're right, for once, trump misjudged. boy, it's a big moment of opportunity for marco rubio here. >> i want to play another moment that was interesting at the valued voter summit. and mike huckabee was saying what distinguished him from the rest of the past. he brought up a name and it was not kim davis, it was hillary clinton. list ton this moment. >> i know something about the clintons because i've been fighting them all of my political life over the past 25 years. there's only one person that's going to be on that debate stage for the republicans who have consistently challenged the clintons, defeated the clinton

machine and lived to tell about it. and that may be the most important of all. >> so, ron, that was an interesting tact, if he wasn't going after his rivals, he was going after the big kahuna. >> no, that extra means a lot, he didn't defeat the clintons, he defeated their supporters in arkansas. i think mike huckabee like other candidates are looking to get further into the case. and he's he's a principal conservative to john mccain in the end. but he's struggled to kind of regain that lane, the blue collar populism that he identifies with. with the way people talk about trump being exempt from the rules. that's even not so. even in the cnn poll, the one that came out this week, he was

running twice as well among republicans without a college degree than with republicans with a college degree. the class divide is very real. it's largely a reflection of the issue that he's treated other candidates in the race. >> ryan, ron, we leave it there. thanks for joining us on this saturday. we'll be talking about it more ahead. i'm sure. let's head back to chris in philadelphia. >> nice timing. >> pope watch. the marine helicopter has set down at jfk. we're waiting for the pope to board the american airlines charter that is taking him to philadelphia. the call signal on that is shepherd one. it's not his plane. the vatican has no fancy plane, it's not like air force one, they're using that in humility, be that as may. when we come back, we're going to give you more perspective of

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all right. let's look the at some live pictures, what is this now? is this the pope touching down? that was just part of it before. this is the second of three ospreys, that's what they call those curious looking marine helicopters. the pope has not touched down yet. why? it is tough to get that perfect picture of the statue of

liberty. they gave him a couple circles around it. obviously, the pontiff had not gotten the pictures he needed to complete his album. so he's up there getting a little more tour time, taking in the city before he leaves. he will be touching down soon. i'm serious. the pope will touch down soon. they think they're giving him an aerial tour. then he's coming to jfk, that's probably the pope right there trying to get that all elusive picture. let's go to a man the pope quell and still calls him jorge. father hernan paredes from new york city parish. we did a documentary on you with pope francis as bergoglio, a friend for 50 years or more said he has always been the same. tell us if that is your experience and how that can be. >> well, chris, it's been a

pleasure to meet pope francis as jorge, jorge bergoglio. the pope is humble. i was yet a scholastic, about 30 years ago, when i was sent to buenos aires. pope francis at that time was the superior of the jesuit community. that we have a lot of good things to share and to lead. and he was the leader of the community, that's for sure. he was the one that pulled us together. the one to bring us together. and that's what we had to pray as. he was the man of the family. and those going to meet all of the families of the world, and he's the man who has been happy

and at home in this great city that is new york. so, it is always with the case that he wants to be closer to the people. to the people that he knows to the people that he can call friends. and you can see here, he has been smiling. he has been going to be with children. he's been blessing catholics. and he's the pope, of course, not the pastor for catholics only. he's a man whos embraced everybody. >> right. right now, we see the holy father, jorge as you call him. landing in that jfk, in that marine osprey helicopter. he's go to be get on a plane to

philadelphia. the reason you call him jorge, you've known him a long time and he's okay with it. give us a story that the pope does not take himself seriously. he takes his mission. tell me when he saw you in new york, he gave you a smack in the face, said you got too american. >> well, actually, that was in rome, he was at st. martha, at the vatican. he said, he said the man who knows me and probably the first thing that he wanted to say to me, oh, you're too american. and he was happy to see me. not only at that time, but always. he's the man who knows how to embrace, how to welcome you, and in this case, before he came to new york, to the states, i would say he was able to see this

country through my eyes. of course, he has seen the country. he has seen the love of the people. and so, he doesn't need to touch my face or to hear my voice or the things that i have to say to him. he knows that we are great people living here. people who love him. and people who care for others, which is something that pope francis will take with him to -- back to the vatican. it will be the love of the american people. the love of the simple people, and at the same time, he will feel more at ease before coming here, remember, this is the first time that he comes here, to america. >> right. >> he was -- he was very uncomfortable, i would say. >> all right. >> but now that he had this opportunity to come, to philadelphia, that was the first

intention. but then to washington and to new york, he knows that he's at home, he's with the people that he loves and the people that love him. it's just great. >> all right. father, thank you so much for the perspective. we're going to take a quick break now. i'll see you back at st. ignatius, father. when we come back from break, we'll get a little glimpse of the pope getting ready for this next step here in philadelphia.

welcome back to a special edition of "new day." there he is, pope francis.

where? i only see nuns. no, look for the white saccato, see it? that's pope francis. hit getting flowers and getting on his american airlines charter and come here to philadelphia. it's been so important for him to show the embrace on every level. the nuns especially. there's been controversy about their role and relationship in the church. the less fortunate. giving messages of inclusion. he took washington, d.c. and new york city by storm and did it in a good way. challenging us to be better stewards of the earth and to those who occupy it, especially the needy. then he comes to philadelphia and he comes with a message of its own kind about the sanctity of the family, the religious goals that the families who have in the next generation.

some of that is accepted church teachings but accepted part of the catholic church. but by any indication, michael smerconish, as he comes to philadelphia, this has been a success as it comes to the legacy of pope francis. >> the bar's been set hi by new york. but i want your town to be a preamble to mine. >> i hope it is in this case because it never has been before. what do you expect when the pontiff comes here? >> well, the type of scene that you're seeing there on the screen at jfk is going to be replicated when he's greeted by arch beneficiary ship chaput and governor wolf and mayor nutter. >> we know he has sciatic it's not a big deal.

>> first of all, he keeps up this pace, even in rome. obviously, the distance that he has to travel being abroad. but the pace is something that he keeps up in rome with meetings and greetings and events is grueling as well. a papal spokesman just said told journalists that the pope needs physio therapy for his knee and back and he's not able to get it on this trip. partially, that explains a little bit of the fatigue. but in general, it's just your basic fatigue of a 78-year-old man as you say, the journalists and younger people can't keep up with him. but it's that other strength, that he's a man on a mission, that he needs to do it. he said before when he was in buenos aires, he didn't like to travel. he didn't want to travel. he wanted to stay with his people. but now his people are the whole

world. so, he has to go and visit them. and it is grueling, i'm sure he'd much rather stay at home. but, this is his mission. and he's taken it on full speed. you know, he's just accepted that this is part of what it means to be pope in the modern age. >> i wonder if he would rather stay home. he seems so excited about this. the cnn documentary unit is amazing. they put a lot of time into doing a documentary about pope francis. we went down to buenos aires, talked to his friends they said this man ascending the stairs there look how fast. it's not just a job it's a mission. his vestmentes a es are there. geez, look at the holy father, get over there and get him. he's all right.

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there's the pontiff's plane. he's ready to come here to philadelphia. for all the worries about security, the only danger so far was getting up those stairs. but he made it and he's on to philadelphia. we'll be right back.

>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. all right. there it is. the vatican and american flags mounted to the american charter jet called shepherd one. not the vatican's plane. it's a chartered jet, hence, the name american on the side. inside, an argentine pope in america for the third. coming from italy and now going to philadelphia. a very nice trip so far for pope francis. we had a moment just shortly ago where he was climbing the stairs. for all the concerns about security and protection, were the stairs that proved the most challenging thing for the holly father. the wind's blowing. he's got that lawn vestment.

the sciatica, the bag in his hand, there he is going up the stairs. nobody is there to help him. it was a little nerve-racking. when he gets to the top. here's a beautiful thing about this manning jorge bergoglio, and pope francis. we can't see him, right? but when you get a chance to see his reaction, he is laughing. we can only imagine what he was thinking to himself. maybe the real holy father has been telling his holy father, it's been too easy for you thus far. don't forget, these are tough trips. so he made it into the plane. he's now get something rest. he's going to have a quick trip to philadelphia. boy are they waiting for him. this place is turning out perhaps like never before. there's a lot of security. there's a lot of anticipation. cnn international corporate miguel marquez is live at independence hall. the pope is going to be there. what do we know?

>> reporter: the cradle of democracy he will come to today. washington was big politics, new york was big city. this is going to be big, big crowds. they're already gathering here. you guys excited? people holding up sign, harmony, many of the themes the pope has been talking about here. in the next couple days there will be millions to see him. >> the lord will be with you. >> reporter: pope francis departing for his final stop on his u.s. tour this morning after touching so much hearts here in the big apple. now, the people's pope off to the at the of brotherly love. philadelphia where he's expected to draw a crowd surpassing 1 million people. like he did at the cath need value cathedral in new york, he will start at the basilica of sts. peter and paul.

here, pope francis is expected to deliver one of his biggest speeches on immigration and religious freedom to an estimated 40,000 people. >> the excitement is building here. we had a great sendoff in new york but the party has yet to begin. >> reporter: the pope is ending his day with the meeting of families. the largest gathering of catholic families. >> this is the chance of a lifetime. >> reporter: pope francis will lead his closing ceremony on sunday, his last mass on u.s. soil. the pontiff expected to drop to 2 million people making his madison square garden mass of 20,000 seem punitive. god is always there, urging them to never forget the sick the needy. a sentiment he showed as he walked in blessing children with

special needs. their parents in tears. >> don't forget to pray for me. >> reporter: over 100,000 people bore witness to the leader of the catholic church in the nearly 40-hour tour. people ex sccstatic to be in hi presence even if for a fleeting moment like the tens of thousands that line the streets of central park. now, what you're looking at here, a shot right across the street from independence hall, the national museum of american history, you can get a sense of me and all of my friends. thousands are here. how exciting is this? there will be tens of thousands here at independence hall, and then tonight, for the vigil, for the -- for the festival of families, about 500,000. for the big mass tomorrow, for the fest valve family, reality anchor of the trip for the pope's visit to the u.s., about 2 million people are expected, chris. >> well, we can feel the

enthusiasm. thank you for introducing us to those great people there, miguel. we see the pope's plane taxiing. he was just waving out the window saying good-bye to new york for the last. on the phone is philadelphia's mayor michael nutter. he's going to meet the holy father at the airport in just about 30 minutes. mayor, i have add myself for you, you were watching the pope climb the stairs. he was having trouble with his vestments and he has a little sciatica, make sure you have people there. >> absolutely, we have a lot of love for him. and we're going to take care of him very well here in philadelphia. we're excited and lookinged for to his arrival. >> how have the preparations gone and what do you expect from turnout and tone? >> well from a preparation standpoint, philadelphia has been geared up and ready to go for some time.

we've been planning on this visit for probably now two years, having known that we were the host city for the world meeting of families. and subsequently when pope francis announced that he would be coming. so from a final standpoint, everything say go sign. in terms of people -- there will be a lot of people here. everyone is not rsvp'ing or calling the office to let me know if they're coming or not, but we are expecting a lot of people in philadelphia. you'll see the incredible shots of hundreds of thousands of folks on the ben franklin parkway. certainly, as far as numbers in independence hall, and of course, anticipating the papal parade, which he has a couple of them. and the concert tonight. it's just going to be a fantastic weekend in philadelphia. >> where does this rank in significance in terms of big things that have happened in your city? >> well, this will be the largest -- certainly the largest and most impactful event in philadelphia in modern history. there's no question about that. in terms of the number of

people, the presence of the pope. the first real meeting of families ever to take place in the united states of america taking place in philadelphia. the vatican picked the city because it's a big city that does big events well. so it's huge for all of us. >> now, nothing is purely positive. there's been pushback about how hard it is to get answer. people may be staying away or going to the shore. cost has been an issue. what's your take? >> well, those are not real issues. the world family organization is reimbursing the city for any additional costs. so there is no cost issue. that was worked out in the contract. in terms of people, you know, access, it's open, obviously as we saw in both new york and boston and d.c. you have to have, you know, bike rack and prevent people from being in certain areas. none of those are issues here in philadelphia.

folks are excited, they're looking forward to the visit. we're about to board the bus to go and meet the plane. so this is happening right now. >> right. i mean you're hearing those criticisms, we'll always chase the money. we'll see how that shakes out. but when he gets here, mr. mayor, he's going to be talking about very traditional value issues within the catholic church. but really they'll resonate beyond any faith. what do you hope the pope touches on? >> well, we know he'll talk about immigration and religious freedom. obviously, there's a mass on sunday. the pope has established time and time again, he'll talk about what he wants to talk about. that's an exciting moment to hear from him, the speech that he made with the congress with president obama, pope francis speaks his mind. it's clear, and we look forward to the message. >> well, i've been with you before, mayor. i've seen you handle tough

situations. but this is a moment for you today as well when you meet the pontiff. have you been practicing what you want to say? how it's going to go, what's your moment going to be like? >> i've had the fortunate occasion to meet pope francis twice. once last year and once this year. what i usually do is check in with my mother what i should say. he's done me well each and every time. first, your holiness, the city of brotherly love welcomes, we'll go from you. >> i had to learn that second part. we had the governor on before, i didn't know the sisterly affection. >> yeah. >> philadelphia, are you going to expand the actual name of city or just the meaning? >> that's our name and we live by it every day. >> i know you do. we know the pope's going to get a warm welcome. mr. mayor, thanks as always for

joining us on "new day." enjoy it. he's coming. he just took off. >> bye-bye. let's get back to alisyn. let me tell you some of our top stories because house republicans are try to figure out who will lead their caucus after speaker john boehner's bombshell announcement that he will step down next month. boehner said he only finalized his decision hours before his announcement. it was a lavish sendoff for visiting chinese president xi jinpin jinping, with a dinner. 200 guests attended that event. and the talks were on reaching an agreement on chinese espionage. so, bobo, meet your brother

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listen, it was never about the pope, all right. there's no doubt about whether i could survive. i don't want my members to go through this. i certainly don't want the institution to go through this. >> well, that was john boehner explaining why he will resign his position as speaker of the house and from congress next month. who-to-who will fill is that position and what does it mean for a potential government shutdown. we're joined by john avalon, editor in chief of the daily beast. and jen hoover. thanks for being here. >> happy saturday! >> wasn't there a mutiny to try to get rid of john boehner, isn't that why he resigned? >> well, no. i feel very strongly about this. as a republican sitting at the table, john boehner could have survived any coup.

he did have a spiritual moment with the pope. this is the cull minute maminai career with the pope speaking to congress. and had known he was going to resign around november 16th anyway. just woke up the next morning, said his prayers and decided this is the moment for him. >> so that the glass half full. >> that's what really happened. >> there's no doubt that he's a man of faith and the pope's visit contributed but let's also be real. you've got a looming government shutdown brought on by the kamikaze caucus last time. it's exhausting, it's thankless, and frankly, deciding to fold in the face of that threat right now, says very bad things to deal and make a deal with

extremists on the right who want to shut down the government. >> margaret, it sounds what you're saying, on the shockometer, it wasn't that high? >> nobody expected it would come that high. but boehner himself said he would remove himself. >> nobody knew. >> he was thinking about it that night. bob cassic from "the washington post," great reporter, had a hunch that something may be coming. but nobody knew. >> here is what president obama had to say about the resignation and what he thinks he may have hopes for next. >> my hope is there's a recognition on the part of the next speaker. something i think john understood, even though at times it was challenging to bring his caucus along. that we can have significant differences on issues. but that doesn't mean you shut down the government.

>> okay. that sounds like wishful thinking. >> "a," that's the way government should work. "b," there's a divide within the republican party. there's folks who want to take it off the cliff because they want to see something burn. >> but, they're saying they're engaging on their principle. >> it's fascinating when you do it on principles at the expense of the government. and the second thing that's really important to say, it is not for nothing that boehner and cantore, who president obama has had to negotiate with during his term ended up being forced out of their positions because the far right felt they did not oppose him enough. that is a crazy sign of times. >> well, here's the challenge they have have now stepping down now, people like you, perpetuating this narrative that they want to scalp him. >> it is.

>> boehner sat down they want a scalp. they are trying to get government working any better. >> that raises the question although is next? is it a tea party or, you know, blessed person? >> have you seen this movie before? yes, you will see the same movie you saw with john boehner with kevin mccarthy. he's a great guy. he's going to have the same challenges that john boehner had. these going to have a tea party caucus. nothing is going to change. >> you know, watch out. i mean, this is not a good sign for times ahead. if deeper divisions in the republican party aren't healed and now you place a california conservative, this is not a sign of good times. >> you brought up eric cantor, he has a piece in "the new york times" talking about this. he says it's imperative that we fight in what we believe it but we should fight smartly, i have

never heard of a football team that won by only throwing hail mary passes. in politics, this means incremental progress. incremental process. nobody wants to hear that. >> you know what they're trying to do, trying to tackle their own quarterback. and that's what we've consistently seen on the part of the republican caucus. they need to deal with reality. >> even i understood that sports analogy. peter king said you have to start playing tough because he's people are playing tough with us, within the republican party. >> how could he? what would he have done? >> well, there needs to be some real reckoning on the republican side. first of all you 2016, if we shut down the government right now, this is very damaging to republicans go into the primary. the republicans need to -- the response is 150 of them that

wanted to pass immigration reform, for example. just start standing up and stop being aphrased this tea party caucus with primary challenges and stand for their principles. other guys stand for their principles. >> very quickly, is it kevin mccarthy? >> yes. >> that's the overwhelming thought. >> john, margaret, great to see you guys. meanwhile, the pope's plane is expected to land very soon where michael smerconish is. michael, tell us what's going on. >> pope's plane is expected to land here in philadelphia soon and you can feel the excitement building. when we come back, we'll talk about pope francis' example of humility and what one leader says is an absence of greatness in our leaders today.

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all right. let's show you some live pictures of the philadelphia airport. we're waiting. there are the stairs, missing a plane. that's a funny picture. but, soon, it will look normal, there will be a plane in front of those stairs. the stairs have come into sharper focus after what we just witnessed on the pope's departure from new york's jfk. had trouble there going up the stairs. he's got sciatica, the stairs are steep. we've got michael smerconish with me here in philadelphia. >> welcome. >> yeah. let's talk about something else for a moment. not just pope francis and his message in philadelphia but what he signifies as a leader.

a very great meind that we have on cnn is aaron david miller. author of "the end of greatness." now, to wit, professor miller has a piece that he wrote that pope francis shows the greatness that is missing in leadership today. expound, professor. >> it's really good to be here with both of you guys. i keep tell you, chris i'm not a professor, but that's okay. >> and i will keep calling you that. >> i've been in washington for 40 of my 66 year, frankly, i've never seen anything quite like it. i use the word "great" maybe ten times a day. great movie, she's a great tennis player. he's a great guy. and i have no idea what it means. we've basically emptied it of any real significance because we can't really understand what we can't see. so, the "r"s will claim ronald

reagan. the "d"s will go back to franklin and we're talking about leaders in my city 30, 40, 50, 70 years ago. so, here comes the pope, against the backdrop of a broken and dysfunctional congress. the polls indicate that congress ranks somewhere south of france and north of nfl replacement refs. a campaign trail that highlights negative attacks and bombastic politics. here you have a guy who comes along and captivates -- actually, the three former capitols of the united states, new york, philadelphia and the current capital,washington. and he does so with an extraordinary uncommon commonness. a humanity. a compassion, a sense of goodness. and the most important quality -- a real sense of

authenticity which is lacking in our political quest. i don't think there's a leader in the world today who we can all agree with some conviction actually means what he says. and is committed to the things that he wants to do. i find all of that, frankly, in contrast to the absence of a greatness in our politics. final point, and i'm not blaming us, i mean, it's hard to be a great leader, greatness by definition is rare. the big heroics, the crises of the washingtons, lincolns, and fdr, frankly, are over. but we've transferred our politicalness and sports and entertainers because it's a lot easier to buy a ticket and to appreciate greatness in sports than it is to invest in our politici politicians. all of this is squirris swirlin in my head when i watched the

last several days which i found to be extraordinary. >> he's a smart guy. >> he is. >> when you ask some people what do you want to be when you grow up, questions that your parents asked you and mine asked me, unfortunately, a number of them will say famous. substance is in short supply. how do you get famous? you need to get hits. how do you get hits? you send things that are incendiary for all the wrong reasons. that's is what aaron is describing. substance is in short supply. think about president cal candidates on one side of the aisle leading the league. are they leading the league for substance? no, sound bites. in contrast to this man. >> yet, to take francis at his own word, it is not only the man, it is the message. you want the right messenger. what does he tell us while he's here? forget about catholicism.

he said be better to each other because you're interconnected, you're interdependent and that's what life is about. you don't have to believe anything to love that. it's also in stark contrast to politician. what's winning now in 2016 is finding ways to you the other man down. aaron david miller, i ask you this, how do we do better, now that we've achieved where we're lacking? >> i think that's the question of the hour. the book i wrote states that greatness is a function of character. you have to have the kind of internal and external attributes that give you the capacity to lead. great science a function of capacity. you have to know what you're doing. but sadly in our political system, or maybe it's how the founders founded it. it's the third "c," our three

greatest presidents, they overcame the challenges. that's why i argue we don't want another great president. we want a president who, frankly, reflects good qualities. presidents who are competent. presidents who are morally grounded. and presidents, frankly, who can find a way, through transactional politics, to bridge some of the divides that are now threatening the actual act of politics. and politics, as the pope reminded us isn't some sterile exercise in order to promote yourself shamelessly, it's about recommen remedy. one additional point, chris, you pointed it out to me, the media 24/7 doesn't project greater leaders but it really does in its constant assault break them

down. what you saw here i find remarkable. what you saw here in three or four days the most intense media coverage of any political or religious figure in recent memory, was not the media dragging this man down. the media served to uplift him. it doesn't show his imperfections and flaws and shows his basic compassion and goodness. i found that in our argue culture, tear-down media, to be another example of how extraordinary an individual he is. you know, he's not running a country. he's not running for re-election or any election. and i don't want to compare him to fdr, barack obama, jack kennedy, ronald reagan. but the reality is his capacity to listen. his basic goodness are attributes that are missing in the ferocious and shark-infested politics of our day. and if we can learn anything from this, anything at all, and

boehner i think gets it. in his emotional responses, it's the basic goodness. the notion of raising us up so that we can also feel the promise of what this country was meant to be and do it in a way that serves the betterment of all. >> quick comment. there are great people among us, i think what aaron is saying is, they're not being rewarded by the current process we're utilizing. to the extent that's what you say, i'm agreeing with you. >> people criticized the coverage of the pope saying it's not negative enough because that somehow shows distortion of balance. but it is ironic that some of the criticism that will be reserved for pope francis will come from his owner conservative catholics. michael's a smart guy, aaron david miller has three names, that's indicative of intelligence. glad to have you.

let's take a look at the live picture. philadelphia is the place to be, city of brotherly love, what's the other part, womanly -- sisterly affection. >> that's new. that's just been added since you got here. >> other things that we added since we got here is the pope. he's expected to land here any minute in philadelphia. more of what we can expect next. brotherly love and sisterly affection. you better learn that. p global . active management can take calculated risks. active management can seek to outperform. because active investment management isn't reactive. it's active. that's the power of active management. where our next arrival is... red carpet whoa! toenail fungus!?

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reminds of the led zeppelin song "stairway to heaven" no, sta stairway for the pope so far. it is a phenomenal trip. michael smerconish and i joined by correspondent delia gallagher. we do want to show you what's happening it's all over social media. it's worth sharing. he was climbing the stairs, he's dealing with sciatica. he was climbing the stairs, high winds and the robe, he wound up tripping a couple times. it was scary because he's alone on those stairs. he is with that cadre with him. >> if you've never done it, walking up and down stairs in a dress is a difficult thing. >> clearly, you don't know my past.

when he got to the top, what i loved about it, when you finally get to see his face, he's laughing. he takes everything in stride. >> he's taking it in stride. i don't know about his aide. i know they did deliberately let him go up the stairs on his own. they tend to do that. possibly not the best decision, considering the length of the trip, he's tired and the bad knee. >> there he is waving out the window. >> i love that it's rumbled for him in the vestment that it's not perfect and he doesn't care. i feel like that combination metaphorically is symbolic of that. >> i don't know if i could have walked up the stairs in the schedule that he maintains and his travel. i'm whacked if i fly few hours from florida. >> tell us in terms of how he's received, tell us the story, michael was telling us about it

before, we saw it in the papers. how much people wanted to covet what he touched after his big speech. >> i expect one of the dignitaries will be greeting him at philadelphia international airport. congressman bob brady, ahead of the democratic committee. congressman brady is very catholic in his outlook. he eagerly approached the deus where the pope had spoken to the well of congress and took the water glass. he took the water glass from which the pontiff had taken three sips. returned to his office -- but left a lot of water. so then he called senator casey into his office. apparently, they were each dipping their fingers in the water as if it was holy water. brady took the water out of the glass to have it used to bless his sons. >> are they getting what they think they got, delia? >> i think they are. the pope touched it.

eventually with john paul ii, his vestments and a lot of things that he touched. i have a rosary that he gave me and that sort of thing becomes a relic. >> the beautiful thing about this pope, boy, he would hate that. he'd like the people taking in the enjoyment, he really wants it to be about the message. do you think that's the part about coming off the conversation we had with aaron david miller, what a leader he is, he has satisfied the hunger of the american people. >> i'm sure aaron would have brought in in terms of what's larking today, those qualities that we honor and put on a pedestal, too much it's the celebrity factor, despite the attention he's receiving he doesn't seem to covet to any extent. >> what is his history how he's regarded leadership versus putting it on people to do for themselves? >> oh, well, i think he believes in both. government has to help. leaders have to help. we heard that at the u.n.

and he believes, for example, that a state should support its unemployed and poor and so on. but certainly believes in the individual initiative. and the capacity for each person to do better. to reach out. to be a neighbor to their neighbors, you know, love your neighbor as yourself. that's his fundamental preaching. so, i think it's both. and i think in terms of character, you know, what the professor, as you called him, was saying earlier, one of the things that pope francis talks about is the fact that you don't build character because we have such a uniform society now. i think media works into that where the models put up for children or for teens are always the same. and so to have character, you have to be willing to be a little different. as the pope said it the other day, be willing to fail and stand out. i think that feeds into character. he's certainly will ogg do that. >> i can't say that i can't said it today, his significant phrase

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okay. here we go. we're in philadelphia. and just moments ago, pope francis arrived here at the airport. big host of dignitaries as always ready to meet him. there's the plane, shepherd one,

that's what they call the american charter. the stairs getting ready to attach to the plane. he'll be greeted. a special person this time, a retiremented police officer who was wounded in action is going to give flowers. richard bose. >> the message the pope wants to send is what? >> the recognition of wearing the uniform and being a victim of senseless violence, but also, chris, because of the strain that it then put on the family, the way in which this family, i think they have three children, was able to endure, remain intact and together withstand everything they had to go through. >> delia, family, a layered metaphor for the pope. you'll see it here in the meeting here, the festival of the family, that the pope is joining now. in terms of how we live our life

as a family and extending that metaphor to grander extent of the family, yes? >> absolutely. he has come forth to celebrate on the theme of the family, he has gathered in october for the theme of the family. because he thinks the family is the main sustainer, if you will, for society. and everything comes from that. literally, people, in the first instance have children. and in the second instance, raise them in healthy, happy, loving families and therefore society. so we have a need to educate them and give them jobs and take care of them in their old age. so it is all related for this pope. and he believes that the government had a responsibility also to ensure that families are taken care of in our society. >> what's interesting is that he'll be greeted momentarily by the mayor of philadelphia, michael nutter. but presumably the next mayor of

philadelphia is city councilman jim kenny, i say that because he's won the nomination. councilman kenney won't be there but he will spend the day at an lgbt picnic where marcy timmons will be present. she was fired. it became a controversy, archbishop chaput weighed in on the part of her firing even though it's not part of the archdiocese. that subplot continues, chris. >> here we are. one of the workers on the plane there getting it right. making sure the stairs are properly affixed, especially after what we just saw. >> the best news of all, cloudy but no rain in the forecast for the next two days. >> we've got rosa flores of cnn on the plane now. rosa, tell us about the departure. >> reporter: hi, you know, we

all are rushing out the door. >> there he is. >> reporter: excuse me, chris, excuse me if i'm a little mixed here, but i asked about stumbling on the steps just moments ago, and i didn't quite get an anxious. they are definitely checking for us to see if there was anything, you know, that happened to the pope. or if that indeed was a symbol. i'm not sure exactly what the video looks like, chris, because i was on the plane when he was boarding. >> all right. rosa, we just saw him come down the stairs here -- we just saw him come down the stairs. it was good. he's meeting the reality is the hope is hurt. he has a bad knee and sciatica. he doesn't want people helping him. he is a proud man. he wants to show his strength. he made it down. now, he is saying hello to

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it is not grand. it is basic. it makes sense for him. michael, what have you taken from this so far? >> he heads now in our direction. what i'm hoping is that people from the philadelphia area, 4 million catholics in the five-county area, that they will turn out for the pontiff. there has been a lot of discussion in philadelphia in the last couple of weeks, with the closure of the schuylkill expressway and the benjamin franklin bridge and a big rail station, will people show up? have they been frightened off. no rain in the forecast. i am here. i have walked the streets. there is plenty of area. it's a moment for our city to shine. >> one thing is for sure, if they can't see him, i think what pope francis would suggest, listen to the message and put it into practice in any way that works for you. cnn's special coverage of the pope's visit to philadelphia is going to continue with anderson

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this is the moment the city of philadelphia has been preparing for for months and waiting for for a decade. pope francis now here for the final and biggest leg of his stork u.s. tour. the city of brotherly love is opening its arms wide to embrace him. >> there, we have live pictures. we see the pope as he always does, gets out and meets people. they are at the barricade at the welcoming ceremony at the airport. this, obviously, is the city of the founding fathers of america and america's founding freedoms, including the freedom to worship or not. on these streets, people have been lined up for hours as they hope to get a glimpse of him as he moves from the airport here to this city have the pontiff makes his way to the cathedral basilica of st. pete terr