will sit down with russia's president vladimir putin. what will happen? we have former secretary of state madeleine albright, deputy secretary of state tony blinken, josh earnest, gop presidential candidate senator rand paul and former house majority leader eric cantor. we begin with that breaking news. on pope francis's return flight to rome he revealed some things to reporters. cnn's rosa flores was on that flight to rome. what did he say, rosa? >> reporter: alisyn, good morning. three main headlines we're talking about here. first of all when it comes to the sex abuse scandal, we heard him say that he vowed to hold those who abuse children responsible. on the plane we learned he's expanding that number to include bishops, to include anyone who knew that these abuses were

happening as well. that is new. now, remember this quote, because we know that pope francis is highly quoted. the new one we heard on the plane, i don't judge someone who can't forgive. now, there he was talking about sex abuse families, victims, families and those victims who can't find it in their hearts to forgive their abusers. he said i understand where they come from. he said, again, quote, i don't judge someone who can't forgive, in that particular case. then finally, conscientious objection, a human right. i have to give you the background. the question was about government officials who don't abide certain laws like issuing marriage license to same-sex couples and who cite religious liberty. now, here is what he said, quote, it is a human right and if a government official is a human person, he has that right.

it is a human right. now, of course, chris, everyone probably thinking about kim davis out of kentucky. now, he said, of course, he can't think of every single case in his head of conscientious objection but of course everybody in the united states probably thinking about that. i have to leave you with this tweet, because pope francis, of course, tweeting as soon as he gets to rome, this tweet saying, with my heartfelt thanks may the love of christ always guide the american people, #godbless, america. chris? >> very nice. rosa, you've been great throughout the whole trip. thank you for helping us understand each step of the way. let's turn 0 our panel. delia gallagher, cnn vatican correspondent and we also have big questions here. delia, let's start with this. won't matter most to the pope but it matters a lot here. the reaction to the reaction. is the vatican surprised, delia,

as to the exuberance, the big crowds, the faithful and the nonfaithful that the message of francis brought in? >> i don't know if they're surprised, chris. i think the vatican knows that the american people are an exuberant people, people with a big welcome. i think that was kind of encapsulated in that big hug. normally you don't hug a pope. you shake his hand or kiss his ring. you don't give him a big bear hug. i don't think it's a surprise to the vatican. the vatican is well aware of how americans are. it was probably good for the pope to actually be here and feel it, because of course, it's one thing to know it intellectually. it's another thing to be here in the crowd. i think he made reference to that on the plane when he was talking about the warmth of the american people and the

exuberan exuberance. >> father, the vatican was wrong. nobody expected the crowds, it certainly even different fundamentally from when john paul ii was here in the '70s. the question is how long will it last? what will the legacy of the visit be? and to that we get to the specifics. on the scandal, the idea of him extending the reach of accountability, the criticism is he could have done that already. the criticism is when he talked to the bishops he said i want to reward your courage, many see them as the opposite of courageous. how do you understand these points? >> i think the key thing to look at with pope francis is that he's addressing structures which will respond to the problem. pope francis could have gone around the world, in a sense, placing band-aids on the problem, patching crack, showing everyone it's his primary issue. when he died, the cause would die with him. by creating a vatican commission to oversea sexual abuse, by

creating atry youtu trtry tribu them accountable. >> the only thing that will really smack of that at least with the american media and audience will be that the church comes out first and holes people accountable and delivers them over to the authorities when there is a notice of abuse as opposed to afterward. john allen, i haven't had a chance to talk to you about it yet. were you as blown away by the extemporaneous comments that the pope made in philadelphia as i was? >> chris, you're talking about the comments at the vigil prior to the final mass? >> yes, i'm talking about when he was at the concert, took his speech and tossed it to the side and started talking about the family as the formative structure, not the church. the difficulties of family, the need to fight through, messages that probably resonate more with the american audience than

anything else he said. >> yes. >> short answer to your question was i surprised? absolutely not. listen, i followed all pope francis in all ten of his foreign trips. i have become accustomed to this kind of evening at the improv feel with pope francis, particularly in settings like that. that's the kind of place he always sort of goes off the cuff. i have to say, a couple of lines you heard from him that night were part of his standard stump rhetoric. he brought the house down by making a joke about the mother-in-law and how couples let the plates fly. these are the things that he always says. the family is enormously important to this pope. he has called this extraordinary, unprecedented really process of two senates. those are summits of kajs lick bishops from all over the world to sink their teeth into issues that relate to families in the early 21st century. one last october, one coming up in just awe few days beginning on october 4th. he went to philadelphia, chris,

primarily to celebrate the world meeting of families. it's not like he needs a text in front of him to open up his heart and mind about the challenges he feel the family faces and the richness he believes the family represents. >> john allen, delia gallagher, i decided you are in the business of taking everything i find to be somehow extraordinary and say, no, it's completely ordinary. i thank you for that. father, let me ask you something. >> this is a case in which the ordinary is extraordinary. francis is an extraordinary man. it's just we've gotten used to seeing him do his thing. >> my point stands. i say it was amazing. i think it was the best moment. you're like, nah. i should be used to it. you did that for 15 hours straight. >> the big point of concern will be now what? everybody was embuied with the

glow. what happens when the man leaves, time passes. things go back to the same. change is hard. one thing it should happen more is within the church structure itself. do you believe that there will be something imparted from the top, from vatican, from francis, to the bishops to motivate more of this inclusiveness and withdraw of structure from negativity of the rules that we heard in the message to the actual experience of catholics in america? >> we know pope francis is a great pastor but he has great political sensibilities. everything that he said in the united states was for the people of the united states but was also for the global communion of 1.1 million catholics and those who will be attending the synod. his whole approach has been, i want open conversation dialogue. nothing is off the table. i sincerely believe every message he delivered in the u.s., in cuba, everything that

preceded this synod will affect those who attend the synod and i believe he believes in the holy spirit and that the spirit of god and his leadership will help bring about a synod that responds to the pastoral needs of our time. >> it will be interesting if on one level, delia, american politics within the church, it had been agreed bishops would stay out of politics and that is a rule that's been flagrantly ignored by bishops all across the country. it will be interesting to see if there's an adjustment on that. delia, him embracing the inmates, yes, i know that he does that. yes, i know it is important. but there seems to be something about it that was uniquely authentic that really set people back on their heels. what do you think that was? >> well, i think it's the fact that francis makes people feel like they are okay. you know? the way they are. whatever they have done in the

past. that's what he said to the inmates. that's what he said to everybody at every step of the way. whatever you've done in the past, god loves you. you are forgiven. i think that has touched the heart of every person, because every person has inside of them something that perhaps they are ashamed of or they don't feel worthy about. he says, you're okay just the way you are. >> delia, john, thank you so much for holding up the coverage through these days and big events and helping those of us who aren't as reddant as you are. >> we'll see what the practical impact is on what we heard from pope francis and what the bishops in the united states do. thank you, sir. >> of course. pope francis may have left new york but it's still busy. world leaders are gathering in new york city today for the united nations general

ascheduleabla scheduassembly. perhaps the most highly anticipated moment, president obama and putin will have a sitdown meeting for the first time in two years. cnn's michelle kosinski is live at the u.n. good to have you in new york with us. michelle? >> president obama is going to be all about diplomacy today, urging nations to keep on trying to find a solution in syria and to fight isis even though parts of his plan haven't exactly been going all that well lately. however, possibly stealing all the oxygen out of the room will be none other than russian president vladimir putin. he's expected to deliver a dueling speech, possibly urging countries to back syrian president bashar al assad. as you said for the first time in about two years, these leaders are going to have a real sitdown today. in the past few days we've heard the white house call putin desperate to talk to president obama. even make fun of his tough guy stance. even posture when speaking to other world leaders. for his part, though, putin

didn't have anything negative to say about president obama on "60 minutes" last night. listen. >> translator: what do you think of president obama? what's your evaluation of him? >> translator: i don't think i'm entitled to give any views regarding the president. that's up to the american people. >> do you think his activities in foreign affairs reflect a weakness? >> translator: i don't think so at all. >> reporter: the white house says the president will be direct in confronting the issues of syria and ukraine with president putin. behind the scenes, how is this going to go? the white house stance there is, they're not super optimistic but let's see what happens. back to you guys. >> i think we're all waiting to see what happens there today. meanwhile, donald trump expected to unveil his detailed

tax plan this morning. this as a new national poll shows trump and rival ben carson now neck and neck. cnn's political reporter joins us live with the very latest. i know you've been pouring over it, what's in it? >> "the wall street journal" got an early look at donald trump's tax plan. it does a lot of what he teased and said it would do. it does cut the tax rate on families as well as for corporations. what he does, he essentially creates four new tax rates. for individuals who are learning less than 25,000, or couples earning less than 50,000, they will pay no taxes. one thing we have to ebb are be a number of households already pay no taxes, 43% as of 2013. as for the top individual tax rate, that comes down to 25%. as of right now, it's 39.6%. this is something that will help middle class families but it's the kind of thing that will help you if you are at the top of the income range, 1%, that will be a

big tax break for you as well. the trump campaign said they want this to be a revenue neutral proposal and reduce the deficit. one of the ways they'll do that, they'll do a one-time 10% tax on corporate profits. they're hoping that will inspire companies to move any money that's overseas back here in the u.s. that will help generate a little revenue. as you said, all of this happens, donald trump's number substantive approach as ben carson is gaining on him in the polls. let's take a look at the new "wall street journal"/nbc news poll. donald trump still ahead of the pack with 21% but ben carson right behind him at 20%. you see there other rivals are gaining, marco rubio, carly fiorina. fiorina's rise came from dash marks to 11%. jeb bush at 7% in the october poll. in june he was at 22%. >> sara, thank you very much.

we'll talk about these new plans with team trump. they're here on the show this morning. sara also mentioned carly fiorina she's got a new foe in the campaign trail. the stage. watch this, the stage curtain comes crashing down during her speech. she's fine. everybody was fine. in fact, carly fiorina kept talking after that. this is what happened at the republican -- happened in texas as the candidate was speaking to a group of female entrepreneurs. again, everybody is okay. what a hell of i thing to happen. fiorina thanked the women on stage to help shield her head. >> her hair was not even messed up. >> that's because she had the arms over here. francis effect, immediately people ran to her aid. love it. more news for you here. john boehner taking a parting shot appearing on "face the nation." he blasted conservative groups

and lawmakers accusing them of misleading voters. making their constituents believe they can accomplish things they know are never going to happen. >> the bible says beware of false prophets. there are people out there spreading noise about how much can get done. i mean, this whole idea we'll shut down the government to get rid of boobamacare in 2013, thi never had a chance. >> he indicated he was referring to several people. turn your attention to the screen. there was a unique scene in the sky seen around the world. this is from gilbert, arizona, of the superred moon. >> so great. >> it was a lunar eclipse with the closest full moon of the year. it will not happen again until

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in just a few hours, president obama and russian president vladimir putin are set to meet to discuss isis, as well as syria, iraq, everything. it comes amid a surprise announcement that russia will share intelligence with iraq, iran. let's bring in madeleine albright. great to have you in studio with us. >> terrific to be here. thanks. >> what are we to make of the news this morning that the iraqi military is going to share intel jins on isis with russia, with syria and with iran. >> well, it's part of the peculiar story here in terms of trying to figure out who is on whose side. i do think what is of concern is the support for assad and the syrian government while, in fact, putin, as i just read, is now saying that our helping the rebels is illegal.

they're kind of a variety of strange threads in this story. >> just to understand it, this should be good news, right? you want iraqis to get help on the intelligence side and every side in fighting isis but russia sharing intel which mean there will be an exchange, is a troubling thing because of their support for assad and what's going on with the syria motivated government right now. >> right. there are a lot of various parts to this, trying to figure out where this is going. it would be very good to stop the killing in syria and what is happening to the people there generally and isis is very dangerous. i think it is good to get cooperation to deal with isis. frankly, the problem really does become one of what are the priorities? i do think getting rid of isis is a priority. there's a question of supporting assad and what does that really mean. >> so many different shifting alliances and shifting sands,

particularly when it comes to isis. vladimir putin was on "60 minutes" last night. i don't know if you if you saw it, but there were moments where he was almost charming. he was laughing, smiling. it was a different aimage than we have of vladimir putin. he did maintain his position that he must strengthen assad in order to fight isis. that's how how we in the u.s. see it. >> he does believe that. what they're trying to do, i think, the russians have been interested in having more and more influence in the middle east. that was something that the soviet union did. i think that they do see it as part of their backyard which somehow seems to keep growing. but i really do think they believe that. and putin can be charming. i know when i spent time with him when we were in office, he can be nice. but he also, i think, we have to remember what his overall goals are. which is in fact to restore russia to a much larger position internationally. >> witness crimea.

there's a political optic at play here among the u.s. media, certainly, that obama is weak in the face of putin, that putin doesn't respect him. do you believe that is true and do you believe this is a time to reset tone? >> i do not believe that is true. i think putin says things to dislocate people's thinking. president obama is strong and he knows what he wants. i think that there is a decision that has been made that it is useful to deal with the russians in order to fight isis. there's no question. but i do think that we have to separate how the russians have dealt with crimea from what we believe we can cooperate on in syria. that is what is difficult about this. as i understand it, president obama is going to be very clear about ukraine and that that is something that we care about deeply that what the russians did there was illegal.

>> are doing. >> and are doing, keep doing. president poroshenko was at the clinton initiative. he's clear for the need for help. >> it will be interesting to see what happens if they have a substantive talk today. let's talk about the migrant crisis in europe. secretary kerry is nounsed that the u.s. in 2017 will take in 100,000 refugees. is the u.s. doing enough today? >> i think we need to do more. and it is a crisis that obviously has affected the middle east and europe and i do think that the united states can and should do more. >> why aren't we doing more? >> well, because i think that we are doing so many other things. we have in fact contributed a great deal to helping people in the refugee camps in syria and a number of places in the neighbors and really are doing everything that we can. i think we need to adjust ourselves to seeing that this is a crisis that also affects us and not just kind of looking at what the europeans are or aren't

doing. >> how much of it is a function to vowing to the political tone in the country with respect to immigrants? it's an ugly narrative. do youny that slowed the administration from jumping into the fray with the migrants overseas? >> there is a sense of who are we and what is our job. i see this from a personal point of view. i'm an migrant. i came to this country as a refugee with my family. not a difficult story about barbed wire or anything. i am such a grateful american. i was fascinated by the way pope francis talked about us as an migrant nation. that is our value system. we shouldn't be distracted by the fear factor or seeing that foreigners are people that bring crime. i don't believe that. i think it's a mistake to really make that such a point for the american people. >> madam secretary, great to have you in studio. always love when you come in. >> i love being in. >> thank you so much for talking with us. dr. ben carson, nearly even with donald trump in the latest

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contender ben carson now running neck and neck with donald trump. according to a new nbc news/"wall street journal" national poll. the retired neurosurgeon still trying to clarify his stance on the possibility of a muslim president. in an extended interview on cnn's "state of the union" jake tapper pressed him on the issue until his campaign manager stopped the interview altogether. watch? >> you said last week, quote, i would not advocate that we put a muslim in charge of this nation. i absolutely would not agree with that. >> i would advocate that people go back and look at the transcript. >> should a president's faith matter? should your faith matter to voters? >> i guess it depend on what that faith is. if it's inconsistent with the values and principles of

america, then of course it should matter. but if it fits within the realm of america and consistent with the constitution, no problem. >> do you believe that islam is consistent with the constitution? >> no, i do not. i would not advocate that we put a muslim in charge of this nation. i absolutely would not agree with that. >> he asked you about islam. and you said muslims, you would have a problem with a muslim being president. >> i would have problems with somebody who embraced all the doctrines associated with islam. if they're not willing to reject, you know, sharia and all the portions of it that are talked about -- if they're not willing to reject that and subject that to american values and the constitution, then of course i wouldn't.

and i will ask you, would you be willing to do that? would you be willing to advocate for someone who would not do that? probably not. >> i don't assume because somebody's muslim they would put their religion ahead of the u.s. kons stus. the u.s. constitution itself says no religious test. >> i had already said before that that anybody from any religion, from any background -- i told you what the criteria were. i told chuck todd the criteria. he's asking this out of that context. >> you seem to be singling out muslims as individuals who would put the religion ahead of the country. i think that offended a lot of people, including a lot of patriotic muslims. >> the statement stands. >> you are saying there are something specific about being a muslim that you have to reject islam in order to be a president? >> you have to reject the tenets of islam. you have to. >> that's different from an

orthodox jew or a devout christian? >> if there's a devout christian who's running and they refuse to reject the ideals of our constitution or if they want to establish a theocracy, i cannot advocate for them. >> the point is you seem to be suggesting that muslim americans automatically want a theocracy and i just don't know any muslim americans -- i know plenty -- who feel that way, even if they are observant muslims. >> okay. in terms of the tenets of islam, are you familiar with them? >> i'm familiar with -- >> the corpus jorus. >> i'm familiar with extremist interpretations of plenty of religi religions. >> i'm talking about what is required. you have to make a specific declaration and decision to

reject the portions of it. >> i think one of the things, you are a member of a church that there's a lot of misinformation about, the seventh day adventist church. you're an african-american. you know what it's like for people to make false assumptions about you. and you seem to be doing the same thing with muslims. >> in which way am i making a false assumption. >> you're assuming that muslim americans put religion ahead of the country. >> i'm assuming if you accept all the tenets of islam, that you will have very difficult time abiding under the constitution of the united states. >> okay. this interview is over. >> okay. >> did you hear any more of the back story? i mean, that is very unusual for a campaign manager to come in after that long of an interview. >> it's ill advised. they felt jake was harping on one point and it was supposed to be an extensive interview.

the point matters. >> it's the point everyone is trying to clarify. >> he seems to be pandering to a feeling. >> has he sat down with muslim leaders? >> that needs to happen. >> maybe that was part of the plan. >> those meetings, look, very often, unless you're the pope, they are all show, no go. you say he believes it. i find it hard to believe that a man of ben carson's intelligence, and it is formidable intelligence would pain the any group with the same brush. >> i am taking him at his word there. >> jake did the right thing. russia signs a surprise accord to help fight isis. that's good but who are they really helping?

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support the legitimate government of syria and it's my deep belief that any actions to the contrary in order to destroy the legitimate government will create a situation which you can witness now in the other countries of the region or in other regions. vladimir putin defending his support of syria president bashar al assad, president obama set to meet with putin today comes amid a surprise announcement. russia shared an accord that it will share intelligence with iraq, syria and iran. is that good news or bad news? let's get perspective. tony blinken joins us now. as we understand it from secretary madeleine albright, you have to take the russia that

you don't like from the russia you may be able to work with. what do you see in this surprise accord? is this a good development? >> i think secretary albright is exactly right. what we're seeing now is limited cooperation. it's directed at a common enemy. that's isle. that's not a bad thing. iraq is a sovereign country. the coalition we put together, that president obama has put together, more than 60 countries is carrying the lion's share of the burden in iraq. we're making slow, hard but real progress. a year ago, iraq was under siege on. it controls 30% less territory than it did a year ago in iraq. the coalition is the one that is producing those results. it's slow. it's hard but it is making progress. >> back to this surprise announcement where the iraqi military now says it will share intelligence with russia, syria and iran, no allies, of the u.s.

we head this caught the white house by surprise. >> no, i think what russia has been trying to do, russia has been pushing this idea of a new coalition. the fact of the matter is, there's no need to re-invent the wheel. the iraqis are deeply cooperating. >> what was your reaction in the white house when you read there was a tcountries. >> that can be a good and positive thing. if on the other hand they're taking steps to create more sectarian divisions in iraq or taking steps to prop up the assad regime in syria, that's a bad thing. >> were you surprised by it? >> no. the russians have been trying to get back in the game in the region for quite some time. >> you keep getting pressed about being surprised because it looks like a bad thing you would have tried to stop. the political implication is now you have to figure out which way

this game is headed. if iran is more important to iraq using the qods force on the ground than u.s. fighters, that's a problem. if russia is involved with iraq in a way they want to be friendly, that's a problem. where's the good news. >> if different countries are focused on a common objective, that's dealing with isle and defeating isle, that's a positive thing if it's done in the right way. iraq has a right as a sovereign country to look for help from different places. >> what is president obama looking for from vladimir putin today in this meeting. >> we have profound differences on ukraine and syria. it would be irresponsible not to test the proposition we might be able to make more progress together through high-level engagements. in syria, russia is doing two things.

they are trying to fight isle. you can't on the one hand say you're dousing the isle fire with water while adding fuel to the fire with assad. russia is in a precarious position. syria has long been its only foothold in the middle east. it wants to hold on to that. at the same time, it has to have one word in its mind. afghanistan. it can't afford to get caught in a quagmire where its troops get drawn in and in and in. at the same time, it's been trying to make nice with saudi arabia with the gulf countries, the other sunni countries. it can't do that if it's propping up asad, the one who is taking the fight to sunnis in syria. russia has a complicated problem. >> there's a little bit of a confusion about which putin the president will be sitting down with, the one who wants to extend a hand or putting him out of the way. i'm glad we've had a moment together face to face, you better stop what you're doing or

you'll have a problem. which obama will it be. >> someone who marries strength and wisdom at the same time. he has put together a coalition of more than 60 countries making progress in iraq and syria. in ukraine, we've taken steps with our partners in europe to put a lot of pressure on russia to reverse what it's doing in ukraine. to stop the siege of ukraine, and to allow ukraine to regain its sovereignty. that's the president obama that president putin will see today. >> i know you didn't get a chance to see putin on "60 minutes" in its entirety last night. he was relaxed, cracking some jokes. he was smiling. he was asked at one point, i won't play it because i don't want to take the time. he was asked if he thinks president obama is weak on international relation relation. no. i think you all in america are playing a political football with putin, that his name gets tossed around because it's political season.

what is our take on putin at this point? >> it's focused on president putin's actions. we've had a track record of cooperation with the russians on a number of important issues. it's an important country. that cooperation can make a difference for us and people around the world. on the other hand we have real differences based on president putin's actions. primarily, the aks that he took to violate the sovereignty and integrity of ukraine, to deny to the people of ukraine the right to make decisions about their own future. that's the principle difference. if we can resolve that, there are real grounds for cooperation. in syria, russia will play a real and important role. if it can use that influence to push for a negotiated transition that leads to assad's departure, that's the answer to syria. >> we'll be watching at the u.n. closely. tony blinken, thanks so much. >> thanks for having me. pope francis meeting with victims of priest sex abuse and vowing to hold predators

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pope francis is back at the vatican this morning after his impressive tour of the united states. sunday he met with five sex abuse survivors of the catholic church. the pope told a gathering the bishops and clergy that god weeps for the victims. we want to talk about it with state representative rossi. i am so glad you're here with us this morning. the pope made a little bit of news overnight, this morning for us. made some comments to the press corps on the plane with him returning back to the vatican. i want to read some of those comments to you. >> okay. >> he addressed the fact that he

said that covered up abuse are just as responsible, saying we know the abuses are everywhere in families, neighborhoods, schools, gyms, but when a priest abuses, it is very serious. those that covered this up is guilty. he went on to say he does not judge those who can't and don't forgive their abusers. what are your thoughts, mark? >> you know, i have forgiven father graff who has abused me. i can never forgive the hierarchy, the diocesan officials who knew. how can they pick the institution and pedophile priest, protecting them over protecting children? that is totally unacceptable. >> what kind of accountability would you lake to see? >> what i hear from almost every victim i talk to, especially from clergy abuse and nonclergy

abuse is they want to have their voices heard in a court of law. they want the two-year window to open up and let all the victims, you know, go into the court, expose their perpetrator and, you know, that's the only thing that will bring healing to victims. >> you talk about the healing. you yourself are a suhr vive rv. you have three friends that are victims that committed suicide. this is an intensity painful and important message for you. you want to make sure you know children are not the victims of predators. the pope talks repeatedly about forgiveness. that is such an important part of this. you feel process is part of forgiveness. do you not? >> absolutely. the men who committed these crimes and the men who covered them up need to be held accountable. these men belong in prison. they do not belong living on the eastern shoreline in a very cozy house still getting their

pensions. some of them, i just found out one of them is living next to an ice cream shop where kids are visiting every single day, while victims are home suffering. some of them have multiple personality disorders, some are alcoholics, drug addicts, sex addicts. these victims are out there suffering and then these priests are moving on with a cushy life and victims are revictimized over and over and over to the point you can't take it anymore. >> how do you feel with the pope sitting dunn with victims of abuse? do you think it was a step in the right direction? we know some say it was a smart public relations move. do you agree with that? >> absolutely. what many people don't know is, when he was the archbishop down in argentina, he never met with victims of sexual abuse. never. and only 15 months into his papacy did he meet with victims. now he comes to philadelphia and

meets with victims. i appreciate that. i do. i want him to hear directly from the victims what the church did. but what i also want him to understand is, because of, you know, what the pennsylvania catholic conference is doing, they are not only just blocking victims of clergy abuse but they are also blocking nonvictims of the victims from noun claernlg ji abu -- nonclergy abuse. what the church is doing, they're blocking everybody. that is just totally unfair. >> representative mark rozzi, we appreciate you joining us. your passion is evident. we know you're sponsoring a bill that would raise the age to file adult claims from 30 to 50. thanks for joining us on "new day." >> thank you. we'll following a whole lot of news this morning. let's get to it. president obama and putin will have a sitdown meeting for the first time in two years.

>> we've heard the white house call putin desperate to talk to president obama. >> you hold four americans. >> new hope to the family of "washington post" journalist, jas jason rezaian. on pope francis's return flight to rome, he revealed some things to reporters. >> i don't judge someone who can't forgive. >> pope francis told survivors of clerical sex abuse that he was profoundly sorry. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. good morning, everyone. welcome back to your "new day." president obama and russian president vladimir putin scheduled to sit down at the united nations today. the pair have not met face to face in two years.

the crisis in syria is expected to be the key topic of discussion. >> big question, has the u.s. been outmaneuvered with the surprise deal of iraq and iran to share intelligence about isis. now what? cnn has complete coverage, beginning with pentagon correspondent barbara starr, live with the latest developments. you're getting push back to the word surprise in the context of the u.s. knowledge of this surprise deal. >> well, i have to tell you, chris, that certainly this been on the radar of the u.s. intelligence community an pentagon since late last week when they began to get word about this deal being negotiated by russia. it is going to make today's meeting certainly more tense. russia now reaching an intelligence sharing agreement with iran, iraq and syria. it's that last one, syria, that of course causes heartburn for president obama. because it underscores the u.s.

suspicion that putin and the russian military is going into syria to prop up bashar al assad, the u.s. wants assad out. russia certainly at this point, seems to be, playing the ground to prop him up to perhaps set up his own proxy replacement if assad were to fall. just look at the military equipment that russia has put into syria in the last couple of weeks. planes, aircraft, tanks, armored personnel carriers. a list of things that is growing every day. the last one on that list, fall tanks ununderground. sounds very odd. that's an indication they are setting this airfield up for long-term operations. you refuel most safely by having your fuel underground. this is not something just for a few days. this is a long-term effort by the russians and president obama, the pentagon, the intelligence community struggling to figure out what putin may really be up to. one of the key questions here, does putin perhaps see assad

very weak right now, has to prop him up. again, if the russians are going to put themselves at the table, that gives them a vote on a replacement of potential proxy if assad were to go. alisyn. >> thanks for that background, barbara. that's helpful. both president obama and president putin speaking to the united nations general assembly. let's get right to cnn's michelle kosinski, live at the u.n. >> reporter: president obama will deliver a big speech, focusing on diplomacy, working together to try to find solutions in syria and against isis. leave it to russian president vladimir putin to shake things up. he's supposed to deliver this kind of dueling speech, criticizing america and its sanctions regime and possibly urging countries to back syria's president bashar al assad. he thinks that is the best way to fight isis. the white house feels like president putin is wrong and that is a big and potentially

very dangerous mistake. but after these speeches, these two leaders are going to sit down and talk for the first time in about two years. talk over these differences. the white house says it wants clarity on what exactly russia's intentions are and because putin is, quote, so desperate to talk to president obama, the white house says that at this point with everything that's going on, it would be irresponsible not to at least give it a shot. they say president obama is going to be very direct with putin on these issues of ukraine and syria. but what good could come out of this, possibly some cooperation against isis but behind the scenes at the white house, the feeling is skeptical. michaela? >> all right, michelle, thanks so much. meanwhile, the battle for the new house speaker is heating up just days after john boehner surprised resignation. boehner himself blasted some of his more republican colleagues, calling them false prophets. cnn's manu raji in washington.

strong language. >> it was. it's the latest in this long-ruining civil war. john boehner believes those groups and conservative hard-liners in his caucus made his job a lot harder, made himself a liability to a lot of his republican members when they went back home and had to answer questions about him. he also made mention of his friend and former colleague, eric cantor, the house majority leader who lost a surprising primary last year in his virginia district. here's what he had to say about eric cantor. >> i was planning on leaving at the end of last year. when my friend eric cantor lost his primary election in july of last year, it was clear to me that i just couldn't leave. that i had to provide a transition for the next leaders. so i planned on serving through this year. and on november 17th, i was going to make an announcement.

>> now that he's made that announcement, there is a scramble to succeed him. the leading candidate right now is kevin mccarthy, the current house majority leader from california. i've been told he's been making calls through the weekend and has enough commitments to get the job to succeed john boehner. that has prompted a big fight for the people underneath him. watch for the battle for house majority leader to really shape up. there are a number of candidates vying for that. one of the things they're all talking about, is to take a much tougher line on this leadership team. the republicans in the senate who they view has been an impediment to enacting a conservative agenda. this will be a huge thing we'll have to watch in the coming weeks. major implications for the president in his final year and a half in office. >> man uu, thanks so much for a

of that. we have a lot to talk about. let's bring in white house press secretary josh earnest. >> it's great to be here. what does president obama want out of this meeting with president putin? >> this is an opportunity for the two leaders to sit down. they haven't actually sat down in person in quite some time. it is an opportunity for president obama to reiterate how important it is that russia not interfere with the 62-member anti-isil coalition that the united states has been leading for more than a year now. >> aren't they already doing that? this surprise announcement that they are now sharing intelligence with three countries that are not u.s. allies, russia, syria, iran, aren't they already interfering? >> they're doubling down on the military presence that they've had in syria for quite some time. the fact is, russia has treated syria as essentially a client state for a number of years now. as they see assad losing his grip on power even more, they feel like they need to double

down to shore up their investment now. this has been styled as russia taking this bold action inside of syria. they're trying to shore up an investment, responding from a position of weakness to salvage what remains there. what we want to make sure of is those efforts don't come into conflict and don't interfere with the very important efforts that our 62-member coalition is engaged in right now to ultimately defeat and destroy isil. >> the idea of this accord, i hoped from your guys perspective that it would have been a surprise. if it's foot a surprise, which is the spin coming out of the white house, why would you let this deal happen? it's, iraq's a sovereign. please. why would you let them do an intelligence deal with russia and iran? >> look, these are individual sovereign countries that are out there representing their own interests. the fact is, this is true in iraq. >> have we lost that much control as the united states over iraq and what's best for them to have them do this deal?

>> we have gone down the path of the united states trying to control exactly what happens inside of iraq. that didn't serve our interests very well. >> does this? >> ultimately what we want to do -- it's certainly better than the united states committing a certain number of ground troops in iraq and syria. what we want to try to do is work with the iraqis and the rest of the international community to keep the fight focused on isil. there has been a lot of talk about bashar al assad of late. it is the view of the united states as it has been for quite some time that's a result of his failed leadership that isil was able to establish a foothold in syria, to project powers into places like iraq and capitalize on the instability in that country. the root of all of this is the failed leadership of boston marathon br. that's why we've made the case that he has lost the legitimacy to lead that country. we'd like to work with other countries to facilitate the political transition that's

necessary to ultimately solve this problem. >> is the white house nervous about the intelligence sharing deal between the iraqi military and syria and russia and iran? >> i wouldn't describe it as nervo nervous. what we want to the do is give rush yat opportunity to contribute constructively to the ongoing efforts of the coalition. that will be part of the conversation that president obama has with president putin today. >> let's talk about isis for a second. the white house said that we're winning against isis or making great strides. how is that illustrated? >> there's no denying we've made a lot of important progress in isil in iraq and syria. they used to control inside, about 30% of the territory they previously controlled they can no longer operate freely there. inside of syria, based on our efforts to support opposition forces that are fighting on the ground, these are syrian kurds,

arabs, turkamin and others, there's a narrow corridor they're operating on. we continue to make progress there. this kind of -- these gains on the ground ready important. they do represent some tangible success. we're very mindful of the fact, however, these military efforts are important but ultimately we're going to need a political solution. that's why this political transition that removes asad from power, puts in place more stable leadership that reflects the will and admission of the syrian people is what will ultimately be required to address this issue. >> the concern is you're not going to get assad out of power with transition if russia or iran are involved. that's not in their interest. let me pivot for a second. boehner. >> yes. >> you say the russia deal want a surprise. this had to be a surprise. what is your understanding of the timing? i can't get why he did it the day he did it. >> i don't have much more insight into this than you do based on the conversations that he's had publicly.

it sounds like he made a prayerful decision. there's no denying how even from the outside, how frustrating it appeared his job was to try to coral a republican conference that in recent years had grown, again, a testament to political abilities. >> for him to do it during the shining moment, he tried to get two popes before this one. this one comes here, he blows everybody out of the water. he's alone with boehner, he gets the credit for having him before congress and then not only does he kind of elbow in on the pope's moment but he could have waited and done it today. why? is this about his emotional impulsiveness? >> i'm not really sure. >> you talk to each other all the time. like a big fraternity down there. >> this does point out -- point to more difficult challenges the republican party has to face. we've seen so many challenges

manifested in the rather divisive, polarizing debate that's taking place in the republican primary right now. the fact is, some of those fishers inside the republican party are now being felt in the house of representatives, the difference is, that has real consequences for governing our country. >> yes. >> we can avoid a government shutdown or make sure that we adequately fund our economic -- they have to raise the debt limit probably before the end of the year. there will be real consequences for the ability of the republican party to set aside the ideological nature of the rhetoric. >> john boehner didn't say that was his biggest frustration. he says his biggest frustration was the grand bargain from president obama fell apart. they said he just felt that the sense of failure when president obama walked away from the table he said was what he counts as his greatest disappointment. what's the white house response to that?

>> we put a deal on the table that you'll recall the president, in the white house briefing room said i can't get my phone call returned from the speaker of the house. that was the speaker of the house who was unwilling to take what i think would have been a good deal for the country. there. >> reporter: certainly frustrations on our side and we have differing accounts of how that played out. we have been able to take important steps. we did succeed in following through on the prom that the president made. we have succeeded since the president took office in 2009 by reducing the deficit by two-thirds. two years ago, democrats and republicans on qulil dcapitol h get together and reach a budget agreement that funded our needs. all focused on the best interest of the country. that made him a good speaker. and we'll see if the next one

chosen by his republican colleagues is up to the challenge. >> josh earnest, great to have you here on "new day." >> thanks for having me here in person. >> i like that he does wear pants. fascinating. >> it is fascinating. pope francis returning to rome off the whirl wind u.s. tour still making headlines. on the flight back, he spoke out on religious freedom cases and the sex abuse scandal in the catholic church. rosa flores was traveling with the pope every step of the way. it's not easy to keep up with the 78-year-old pontiff. you did it. pope francis making news as soon as he hopped on the plane from philadelphia to rome. expanding who could be held accountable for child abuse cases. where are pope francis back at the vatican, after holding a

press conference on the plane following his historic u.s. visit. the pope calling his visit to philadelphia, quote, very demonstrative, after a meeting with five victims of sexual abuse. he expanded those who could be held accountable, saying, quote, we know the abuses are everywhere in families, in the neighborhoods, in schools, in the gyms, but within a priest abuses, it is very serious. those that covered this up is guilty. good weeps, on the plane, he said he forgives the priests that have committed sexual abuse because, quote, we must forgive, because we were all forgiven. it is another thing to receive that forgiveness. the pope also says about the sex abuse victims who can't forgive their abusers and have lost

their faith, quote, i don't judge someone who can't forgive. the pope also saying conscientious objections like not issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples, citing religious liberty is a, quote, human right. pope francis says he does not know all of the cases on this issue which may include kentucky county clerk kim davis. but the pontiff saying, quote, if a government official is a human person, he has that right. about his whirlwind five-day u.s. tour, he says, quote, what surprised me was the warmth, the warmth of the people so loveable. he said washington was warm but more formal and new york was a bit exuberant. now remember most recently pope francis making annulments easier and cheaper. he said don't get it confused, chris. there is no such thing as a catholic divorce. >> yes, yes, we're well aware.

thank you very much. now that the pope's trip is over, it's up to us to keep this goodwill going or not. >> no, it is. we should do that, chris. >> what will happen now that the pope is gone? was it just a moment in time. >> not here on "new day." >> i gos yuess you have your an. when account lead craig wilson books at laquinta.com. he gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready. so he knows exactly when he can settle in and practice his big pitch. and when craig gets his pitch down pat, do you know what he becomes?

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this morning after wowing americans of every shade of belief. now what? let's discuss, michael xer c smerconish, as well as bruce filer, a cnn contributor. let's start inside the church, then we'll move outside the church. bruce, the type of message of inclusion wasn't just news or welcome to the ears of the people in the pews or people who don't go. how does that message of stop spending all your time fighting political fights that really aren't yours, stop all your time excluding, how does that become action? >> i heard a story someone was saying we saw the pope driving around in the fiat. the story was there was a church official needing to get out. someone offered him a cadillac. he said, i can't get out of a

cadillac. the pope is in a fiat. i think that will get through to all levels of the church. the challenge the church has gets to the church sex abuse scandal you were discussing over at the desk. if i could be critical a little bit about this spectacular trip that you and i witnessed a lot of it firsthand, if there had been women involved in planning this trip, would the first thing the pope had said on the sex abuse scandal be encouraged in front of the bishops? you have the men sitting up front and the women signature behind. this shows the critical need to get women involved. it's not going to be the priesthood. we all know that. in significant leadership positions because ultimately women are more involved in religion. if they're not getting the message they're welcome, young women especially are going to turn away in droves. >> john paul ii saying women can't be priests.

that was not ex cathaeter, that is latin, that is not, right? when francis says, that's already been decided, that's still momentary? >> the whole notion of fallibility is only 130 years old. he can begin a dialogue. we have married priests, episcopal priests who have become catholics. they are married. >> michael smerconish, what do you think the effect of the trip is long term on anybody? >> i'm still caught up in it, being here in philadelphia. can i show you the headline today from the "philadelphia inquir inquirer"? >> sure. >> "an epic show of faith."

there came a time when you could merge into traffic because people would let now. we all held doors for one another and please and thank you became a part of the lexicon in a way that they should have been but hadn't been. it didn't last, unfortunately. i hope that this feeling lasts and you know i'm a political junky. i'm looking at the way that the events of 2016 are now playing out. i would like to think that if one individual was calling another individual stupid or a loser or there's an ostentatious show of wealth, that with pope francis on the brain were wiebe going to look at it a little differently. maybe i'm wrong, maybe i'm naive but i hope it lasts. >> he could have a nelson mandela-like impression on people. that cuts two ways. one is, wow, he really mack me realize about the dignity of humanity and my role in

preserving this. the other is, mandela is better than i am, pope francis is better than i am. nice to know they exist but i'm beginning to get back to my world. >> i aspire to be a better person. having just listened for the last six days. i paid close attention to every one of the homilies, every one of the public events. i'd like to think that catholic and noncatholic, atheist, you know what was most instructive on the airplane on the way home? the pope in response to the question about the cynthia had taken place within the church spoke of a victim who said my mother died an atheist because she knew i was a victim. he said to her, i'm sure god welcomed your mother into the kingdom of heaven. i found that to be remarkable. >> the pope saying if your faith says you can't do something, you're a conscientious objector

and that's fine. he never said what that clerk did was right or legal as an elected official. he says sure, you can do that, conscientiously object. he never talked about the implications. that's a big difference on how pope francis and the rest of us run society. >> i think this idea of, he is promoting faith. that's in some ways what his role is. i think another significant, you mentioned inclusion at the outset, the fact that he shared his stage with people of so many different faiths and we saw that at every step of the way, that image of -- under the 9/11 destruction site, the great scar on america that he brought those faiths together, a bomb of healing on a source of pain in america. i think that's another legacy of inclusion that we'll see remembered from this trip. >> i saw it yesterday. bruce smerconish, thank you very much. alisyn, to see the pope embracing that imam there with

the weeping wall at the 9/11 memorial behind him. and you juxtapose that to what we have going on in the presidential race where they're saying all muslims have to reject sharia outright. otherwise they're not like the rest of us. >> that split screen you pointed out all week between what the pope was doing and happening on the campaign trail was striking. let's do more it. we have news about republican front-runner donald trump. he's releasing his tax plan today. his plan would eliminate income taxes for a large chunk of the country. will republicans go for that? we'll speak with the trump camp, next. what if one piece of kale

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some very wealthy are going to be raised. some people that are getting unfaired deductions are going to be raised. overall, it will be a tremendous incentive to grow the economy. we're going to take in the same or more money and i think we're going to have something that is going to be spectacular. >> that was donald trump talking to "60 minutes" about the new tax plan that he is announcing today. let's get all the details from executive vice president of the trouble organization and special council to donald trump, michael cohen.

>> i'm up against the two of you now. >> good luck to you. >> i know. >> let's put up on the screen what we know about donald trump's new tax plan he's unveiling today. these are the details. you can expound on them. not that, those are the polls. here we go. no business will be taxed more 2457b 15%. highest individual tax bracket will be 25%, no longer the 40% than it is now or eliminate or reduce deductions for loopholes for high-income taxpayers. this is fascinating. this will be more people who are not paying. >> more americans will be keeping their money in their pocket as opposed to sending it to uncle sam. >> except that remember when mitt romney talked about how there were 47% of the country that wasn't paying any income tax. republicans didn't like that. they didn't like that half of the country wasn't paying tax.

>> republicans may not like the full extent of mr. trump's tax plan but i'll tell you who's going to like it, all americans, republicans, democrats, all the voters. because, again, they're going to keep the money that they earn in their pocket and he's going to simplify the tax code. that's something that he has always found to be troublesome. >> two things. you have the substance and the style. everybody says they want to simplify the tax code. it never happens. that gets into how they negotiate things in government, the substance. we'll have to wait for the details to figure out how new this is on the middle and who doesn't pay taxes, the lower echelon. right now, romney was lamenting it. a big portion of the same people will be in the same position, they don't pay, they pay payroll taxes but they don't pay. does this grow their base and if so, how? >> at 11:00 today at trump tower when mr. trump unveils his tax

plan, you're both going to learn. it's an amazing tax plan. it's different than anybody has seen before. it's like mr. trump. >> will it grow that number who are currently not paying income taxes? >> i don't know. >> it better. otherwise you can't have it as a headline. >> wait till you see. the answer is yes but i'd rather mr. trump unveil this tax plan as he plans on doing today. >> why did he go after the hedgies as a group? a lot of them are going to complain saying i don't make that much money when you look at the 1%. >> cry me a river. >> yes. >> you're lowering the tax percentage to 25%. why do that? if you want to keep it revenue neutral? >> it's a totally different plan that mr. trump is going to be unveiling. i don't really want to get into the specifics because that's the reason he's having this announcement at 11:00. i can assure you, and all your

viewers, it's different and it's going to make americans very happy. >> but it sounds like a chicken in every pot. everybody likes that. where do you get the money? if everybody is paying less taxes, where do you get the money. >> make america great again. we have $1.6 trillion in u.s. money overseas. rep repatriate that money. donald trump is a doer. when he tells you he's going to creigh yacht a tax plan that works for all americans, this isn't the something he put together while in his aircraft traveling from one speech to another. this is a really thoughtful, it's a great, great plan. >> he'll tell us who the team is -- we'll find out who the brains are that he trusts around him with this. he'll have to get this passed, which will go to his political

skills. is there any francis effect on donald trump? hearing the pope, hearing his implied and not always implied rejection of the negativity that is pervasive in the election, do you think we might see a different trump? >> donald trump will always be donald trump. he doesn't know how to be anything other than himself. i think that his concern for the american people and the financial -- for the economy here and the finances of all americans is so important to him that i think you're going to be nothing shy of impressed. >> let's bring up the latest poll. the nbc/"wall street journal" gop national poll. this is interesting. donald trump still on top, 21%. ben carson has gone up just since july to twice what he was, 10% to 20%. what do you think is going on here, michael? >> i don't really know. ben carson from what i understand is a lovely guy.

just think about it this way. if ben carson showed up to a fortune 500 company with the resume that he has, let's see, neurosurgeon. great. would you let him run that company, a multibillion dollar fortune 500 company? the answer is probably no. how would you let him run an $18 trillion company? he's a brilliant man, yes, he's a neurosurgeon, all the respect in the world for what he does. but it doesn't make him qualified within which to run a company, which is really what the united states of america is. it's a big company. >> why does team trump think the trump number is going down? >> it's not. it's not going down. >> it is going down according to the poll. >> it stayed even, neutral. wait until mr. trump has a meeting with 50 evangelical preachers who are coming who want to talk to mr. trump in order to learn more about him so that their twnts will understand more about team trump.

the world is familiar with donald trump. now they're going to become much more familiar with the exceptional qualifications that he possesses. >> we'll be watching for those events. michael cohen, thanks so much. >> hope to see you there. >> make sure to tune in tonight to cnn at 7:00 eastern. erin burnett sits down with donald trump, that's on "erin burnett out front." iran's president will address the u.n. general assembly today. in advance of that, he spoke to our christiane amanpour about the nuclear deal. what would it take to free american prisoners held in iran? christiane joins us, ahead. you wouldn't order szechuan without checking the spice level. it really opens the passages. waiter. water.

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today iranian president hassan rouhani will talk about american prisoners. >> no years ago no one could

have envision that the foreign minister of iran and the secretary of state from the united states of america would sit together for hours and hours and sometimes weeks on end to reach a conclusion and negotiate an agreement which it did successfully. >> will now the president of iran and the president of the united states sit and discuss here, say hello, shake hands here at the united nations now that you have achieved this step together? >> translator: i do believe that a similar question was asked by you last year as well. and my answer was, that in my mind the symbolic gestures don't hold much value for us to run into one another, shake hand, not shake hand, say hello, not say hello. write letters. of course we do write letters from time to time. he writes letters to me and i respond and write letters to

him. what is important to note is that a great distance was created during the last 37 years between the united states ofmark and iran. >> let's move on to something that is very, very concerning to the people of the united states of america. that is even as you have signed a nuclear deal, a historic deal with the u.s. and the rest of the world, you hold four americans, some of them have dual citizenship, including our colleague, jason rezaian. i would like to know whether you as a government feel this legal process, whatever it might be, is expedited so that these people can be freed. >> you pointed out we have reached an historic nuclear agreement with the united states of america. there are dual citizen holders who are currently imprisoned in iraq. now, being imprisoned in iran has nothing to do with the nuclear negotiations and subsequent agreement. i'll ask you this, there are a number of iranians in the united states who are imprisoned, who

went to prison a result of activities related to the nuclear industry in iran. once these sanctions have been lifted, why keep those folks in american prisons, so they must be freed. if the americans take the appropriate steps and set them free, certainly the right environment will be open and the right circumstances will be created for us to do everything within our power and our purview to bring about the swiftest freedom for the americans held in iran as well. >> that's it. if one side gets released, the other side gets released. you don't see any way of trying to get, for instance, a journalist released any sooner? >> translator: of course this is my personal opinion. my personal opinion is that any time, anywhere where we can help someone who is imprisoned, anything that must be done for

that person in order to speed up the legal process regarding his or her file or receive a pardon as it were, nothing would make me happier. and not only vis-a-vis a journalist but vis-a-vis anyone else. we must bring to bear our deepest efforts to bring about the release, to realize the release. this is a goal of my government. however, if the americans take the appropriate actions vis-a-vis iranian citizens who are being held imprisoned here, the right atmosphere and environment will be created for reciprocal action perhaps. >> joining us now for more from the u.n., cnn chief international correspondent christiane amanpour. a great wide ranging conversation you had with rouhani. i'm curious if there's been a response from the u.s. so far on whether or not they would agree to the kind of exchange that rouhani is suggesting. >> well, not really.

we haven't asked. we want to ask as soon as we get to somebody of senior enough stature, we will perhaps here at the united nations. clearly he is putting forth a mechanism for that to happen. if you look at all the way the iranians have played this deal, whether it's the approval in congress, what it is, they have matched whatever the unite has done. michaela, what will be important also is the issue of syria, iran, russia, iraq, syria have now made a joint intelligence and political coalition without telling the united states. russia has put down its military leverage, is putting down diplomatic leverage. we understand that is going to be a big news item coming out of the u.n. today. they'll say that assad has to stay for a while and it seems like they are rapidly trying to outflank the united states, the obama administration on the syria issue. >> given that, how do you expect the response bill to be rouhani at the u.n.? >> well, it's going to be very

interesting. he's obviously going to be talking also about the nuclear deal. and i raised with him a lot of the criticisms that have come about the deal. and not least amongst the republican presidential candidates. and i was pretty scathing about it, because he said no one can shred up a deal. this is not just a deal with the united states. this is an international deal and there's a u.n. security council resolution that enshrines it. i said what about those who don't believe iran will be trusted. he said, look, we have kept our end of the bargain up until now. there's no reason for us not to. we're part of the traditional protocol. this is not just up to us. it's up to the whole international commune as well. we will abide by those commitments. >> very quickly, i know these events are so orchestrated and timed out. their itineraries are very tight. do you think there's any chance

of a spontaneous interaction between president obama and rouhani? >> there's always a chance. not sure. you heard what he said and also rouhani apparently will turn around and go straight back home, not staying as he usually does because of the number of iranians, hundreds of iranians willed during the stam paid at the hodge last week. they're going back to deal with the bodies returning. >> christiane be always a delight. chris? big political news. donald trump says it's no the just about what i say. it's going what goim to do. he has a big tax plan that he says will be great for all americans. so many are going to pay less taxes. we'll help make me, great again. can he do it? we discuss. llaquintat he fires up the free wifi, with a network that's now up to 5 times faster than before! so he can rapidly prepare his presentation. and when he perfects his pitch, do you know what chris can do?

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the wife of grimes was arrested before the game for charges of disorderly conduct and assisting arrest. a video appears to capture the event, but it doesn't show what led up to this. the arrest report says traffic control police ordered pedestrians outside the stadium to allow vehicle traffic past, but grimes continued to cross the street anyways. police say grimes head butted an officer. the nationals are nearing the end of what has been a disappointing season. yesterday was the low point. after flying out, bryce harper and teammate exchange words. then the two will go at it in the dugout and had to be separated by their teammates. apparently, papelbon was mad that harper didn't hustle on the play. after the game, papelbon apologized, and both said they were fighting like two brothers would fight. i was wondering -- >> use your words, boys. >> chris, when was the last time

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for the first time in about two years, these leaders are going to have a real sit down today. >> those countries that can must do more to accommodate refugees. >> what we're seeing now is some limited cooperation. >> neither party wants you much. >> donald trump and ben carson, neck and neck. >> whether you have a lot of people drop out, i guess rand paul, you have four or five people that have to drop out.

>> the long trip pope francis has taken do sh. >> the family is important to this pope. >> pope francis told survivors of clerical sex abuse he was profoundly sorry. >> announcer: this is new day with chris cuomo,al sin cam rodro -- alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. president obama is going to address the u.n. general assembly, followed by russian president putin. >> russia's military buildup in syria, expected to be at the top of the agenda, especially following within announcement that russia will share intelligence with iraq, syria and iran about isis. we are following developments live. what is is expected? >> reporter: good morning. today, president obama is going to be speaking to the world on

addy moem s diplomacy, trying to find solutions against syria and isis. stealing all of the oxygen out of the room, here comes russian president clvladimir putin with his own deal, dueling speech, where he's expecting countries to back bashar al assad. he thinks that is the legitimate way to defeat isis, but the white house sees his plan as backwards. for the first time in nearly two years, these two afterwards are going to sit down and talk about it. the white house wants clarity on what his intentions are exactly. the last couple of days, we've heard the white house say he is desperate to speak to president obama. they've criticized his tough guy stance, even posture when he sits and speaks to world leaders. given the chance, even given the leading questions to criticize president obama, putin wouldn't do it. the white house says obama is

going to be direct with putin on syria and on ukraine. at this point, he said it would be irresponsible not to sit down and try to find at least some cooperation, if that's possible. i'll tell you, privately, the white house is spectacle. back to you. >> very interesting to watch what happens there at the u.n. today. thanks for that. donald trump laying out a detailed tax plan. a new poll shows trump and ben carson neck and neck. cnn's political reporter is live with the latest. what are you seeing today? >> the goal here is to make the code simpler and reduce taxes on families and business. the wall street journal got an early look at the plan, and the first indications are it does a lot of that. if you look at families earning $50,000 a year or less, they won't pay federal income tax. a number of the families are

already dealing with this, but it will expand the pool. it could help middle cut families but it's a cut for the top americans, that earn the top 1% of income. there is a tax cut for buzz businesses, bringing it down to 15%. all of this happens as donald trump is facing his first real competition in the race. if you look at the latest poll, we see ben carson and trump almost at dead heat there. trump at 21% and carson at 20 pl%. other republicans are on the rise. rubio, 11%. fiorina, also at 11%. she was at hash marks in july. we're seeing big moves for a lot of republican rivals. that could be what's pushing donald trump to delve into more specifics. that's been a criticism in his campaign, he makes promises but doesn't explain how he will

accomplish those things. >> provocative question. let's see if it's answered at the news press conference later this morning. we have ben carson's close friend, armstrong williams, and former reagan white house political director who seems to have a positive perspective when it comes to donald trump. we have good dallas here. i'll start with you, how do you explain dr. ben carson's immedia meteoric rise? now neck and neck with trump? >> i would suggest it's the rise of the outsiders. this is directly related to what's going on with speaker boehner in congress. the american people have had it. they look at donald trump, ben carson, to some degree, looking at carly fiorina, and they want somebody outside of washington and want them there pronto. >> why less trump and more carson in the polls, mr. williams? >> good morning, chris. you know, listen, while it is

critical that we talk about the issues of foreign policy and business and all those kind of issues, on top of carson's ratings soaring, dr. carson doesn't get in the, in your face, during the debates. some chris size thriticize that american people want someone with the temperament to move this country forward. dr. carson is an outsider and continues to grow in learning the political speak, the issues and policies. dr. carson has the most stable of all the candidates throughout this entire process, his favorability race is stand still, trump's compared to carson, trump should be concerned about. as mr. trump becomes less combative, not just during the debates but on the campaign, he

shows he can be a diplomat and a gentleman and doesn't fly off the handle, there's a lot of up tick for him. until he gets that under control and shows he has the discipline and he can respect others and respect women, and not make the comments he's made in the past, i think he could do well. t for me, that's the difference between trump and carson. >> jeffrey, when you hear that, set it against the context of ben carson just getting into that situation with jake tapper, where he basically, as a min minority himself, denies all minorities, muslims, pushing the country to believe all muslims want to put their faith before the constitution. is that being a gentleman and the leadership that would make a president of the yieunited stat? >> i think dr. carson has to be careful. when i first heard these reports, seeing he was saying no muslim could be president, what he seems to be saying now is he would not support a muslim for president if, in fact, the

muslim in question -- and this is hypothetical -- were in the sharia law. that is a concern. there's no question. >> do you think he's back pedali pedaling? when armstrong was on the show last time, he was talking about all muslims. >> yeah, i think he has back pedalled a little bit here. you have to be careful about this. we are a country of religious freedom and little bit and we want to make sure it applies to everyone. we don't want to get into a situation when sharia law is overriding the american constitution. donald trump wouldn't be supporting that, too. >> i don't know who would support that, which is an absurd premise from the original statement. armstrong, we just had michael cohen, the trump team person come on and say, carson is a nice guy but he's a doctor. he can't run a business, let alone the u.s. government. can you accept that? >> you think i'm going to let you take an unfair shot at dr.

carson about what he said and not respond? we have millions of people watching. >> you tell me when you were on this show -- i read the transcript. i read the transcript and you talked about all muslims. you didn't say only those who put sharia before the constitution. you talked about all of them. own your words. don't make them about me but what you said. go ahead. >> dr. carson is very clear that there is no litmus on faith. the fact of the matter is unless someone rejects sharia law and the tenants of islam, which is in direct contradiction of the constitution, he cannot find himself supporting the muslim for president of the united states. >> jeffrey, help me, maybe i'm not hearing right, did he just say those muslims who put sharia as the center of their life before the constitution, or did he say muslims who don't reject the ten gnants of his faith?

>> i think he's saying muslims who put sharia law over the constitution. that's what i am hearing here. >> i just heard -- >> that's correct. if we're going to go down that road, we have a problem. remember -- >> nobody is disagreeing with you, jeffrey. hold on. armstrong, you said muslims who don't reject the tenants of their faith. is that what you said or am i tired from the pope coverage? >> you're a little emotional and need to calm down so you can hear what everybody is saying. >> tell me what you're saying. >> good. dr. carson, again, does not support anyone who embraces the tenants of islam, embraces sharia, kills gays, kills their own muslims. there is a contradiction between sharia law. it's not compatible to the constitution of the united states. >> that's different. if your point is dr. carson said -- maybe jake tapper and i suffer from the same hearing

abnormality -- but the you're saying it's muslims who preface sharia over the constitution, yes, that would be a good thing. armstrong, you don't find it a little curious that so many people didn't think dr. ben carson was saying that? you don't think it's curious that jake tapper felt the need to ask a series of follow ups, if it was a simple and obvious statement? >> you know what? the media has its own rules and games, and they -- let me finish. i didn't interrupt you, thank you very much. the bottom line is dr. carson was clear in what he's said. he's clarified it because there were misunderstandings. that's why we're willing to come back on these shows, because we think cnn is a very fortunate format that millions of people watch and we respect it. so, yes, things can be misconstrued. how many times do you want me to clarify it? i think it's simple. what i said, which you finally embraced and understood. we can move on because we're

finally on the same page. >> the question is, why did it take that long to get there, armstrong? we've had dr. carson on a number of times to give him a chance to clarify. go ahead, jeffrey. >> chris, as you would remember, in 1960, president kennedy, then senator, gave a speech to the ministerial association of baptists, i believe it was, and said, i'm not the catholic candidate for president, i'm the democratic party's candidate for president. we don't want somebody who says, i am the muslim candidate for president. i am not the republican or democratic nominee. we want somebody who is going to say strongly, as senator kennedy said, that it's not about their faith, it's about their constitution and their political views, period. >> jeffrey, are you surprised that people were taken aback by what dr. carson said originally? do you believe the follow ups were media motivate snd. >> frankly, i think you were right to ask the question.

i, myself, thought i was hearing dr. carson saying there should be a religious test applied for muslims running for president. i immediately thought, article 6 of the constitution, we can't be going there. but he's clarified and i'm willing to accept it. but you have to ask the question. that's why i'm here. that's why armstrong is here. >> you do it, i might add. >> look, armstrong, it's not the first time, right? dr. carson said being gay is a choice. he used the proof t fact when people go to prison, they're not gay and came out and they are gay. he clarified it. you have to own what you say. it's not about personal -- i hope you understand. >> they're outsiders and it speaks well for the american people, trump and carson, and where we're going. >> work on your ground game, armstrong. >> jeffrey, you're a gentleman and scholar.

i appreciate the respect you show dr. carson. >> he's a great guy. >> we're fighting for the american people. they want change. they want courage and leadership. that's what mr. trump and dr. carson bring. >> they want positivity, which is inclusiveness, which is tolerance. armstrong williams, thank you very much. jeffrey, as always, look forward to having you both back on the show. erin burnett sits down with trump at 6:30 tonight. pope francis returns home to rome after his tour. the pontiff spoke about religious freedom, the sex abuse scandal in the church among other things. rosa flores traveled with the pope to rome. he was making news even on the plane. >> reporter: good morning. you're absolutely right.

pope francis is known for his mercy. will he exercise mercy for priests who abuse children and the bishops who knew about it? >> reporter: pope francis back at the vatican this morning. after holding a press conference on the plane following his historic u.s. visit. speaking in italian and spanish about sexual abuse within the catholic church. the pope calling his visit to philadelphia, quote, very demonstrative, after meeting with five victims of sexual abuse. he expanded those who could be held accountable saying, quote, we know the abuses are everywhere in families, in the neighborhoods, in schools, in the gyms, but when a priest abuses, it is very serious. those who cover this up are guilty, even some bishops who kor covered this up. god weeps for the victims, he said in a chapel full of bishops

sunday. on the plane, he said he forgives the priests that have committed sexual abuse because, quote, we must forgive because we were all forgiven. it is another thing to receive that forgiveness. the pope also says about the sex abuse victims who can't forgive their abusers and have lost their faith, quote, i don't judge someone who can't forgive. the pope also saying, c conscienceness objections, citing religious liberty is, quote, a human right. pope francis says he does not know all of the cases on the issue, which may include kentucky clerk kim davis. if a government official is a human person, he has that right. about his whirlwind five-day u.s. tour, he says, quote, what surprised me was the warmth, the warmth of the people, so lovable. he said, washington was warm but more formal.

new york was a bit exuberant. >> i ask you, please, to pray for me. god bless america. [ applause ] >> pope francis was asked about the power that comes with his stardom, and he said, it's not about the power. he's not a star. he says, stars fall all the time. the pope, he says, is a servant of the servants of god. chris? >> all right. you've done great work on this. thank you for being with us this morning and every morning. breaking overnight, an explosion on board a speedboat carrying a president. government officials tell cnn he was not hurt but his wife suffered back fractures. another was injured. it is not clear what caused the blast, but there is an investigation underway. when we learn more, we'll tell you. spain gearing up for a constitutional fight after pro-independence parties win a

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aspiring opera singer, bobby hill, he is 14 years old. this man blew away a crowd of thousands saturday evening at the festival of families. he joins us now this morning, as well as steven fisher, the associate who is the director for the keystone state boy choir. i get goose bumps hearing you, and seeing the smile on your face this morning, how are you feeling, young man? >> i feel -- i'm just -- i've been singing ever since i can remember and i've been with the choir for seven years. the keystone state boy choir. i never thought in a thousand years that this would ever happen. >> we should point that out. give us an idea, this was not scheduled. you found -- when did he find out this was happening? >> so the keystone state boy choir and the pennsylvania girl choir were invited to send 60 singers to sing in the final number. we have over 600 singers but we could only pick 60. that's what we planned to do. >> right. >> earlier in the day, during

the rehearsal, i knew bobby wanted to be an opera singer and he just broke out singing. you don't have to ask bobby twice. this guy thought, another singer. he stepped back, oh. what did he say? >> bravo, bravo. >> two hours later, close to show time, producers say, you have to help. we have 60 seconds to cover. we can't have the holy father sitting there watching a set change. what can you give us? i said, i can give you bobby. they said, we can't do it key wise. i said, we're good. i didn't tell him right away. >> they might cancel. get his hopes up. >> and i didn't want him to get nervous. i said, bobby, five minutes ahead, you're going to sing. awesome. no piano. cool. no music accompaniment, more

difficult, more time to prepare. off he went and i went to the stage and thought, oh, my. >> what have i done? >> the stars align, it's the opportunity, it's the right young singer and it's also the composure. >> here's what's amazing. you heard him sing, the voice of an angel, but listen to what happened when mark wahlberg, who was there, mcing, you had a moment with him. let's play that sound. >> yeah. >> that right there was truly the voice of an angel. [ applause ] but then he whispers in my ear that he loved the movie "ted." and i told him, that was not appropriate for a boy of his age. holy father, please, forgive me. >> you did a face palm right there. >> that was after meeting pope francis, who gave you this, right? >> the keystone state boy choir,

in 2009, was the first choir to go to antarctica and perform. met president obama. then you meet the pope, there were six families representing six continents, but the seventh was missing. bobby basically said to the pope the choir family represented the seventh continent, gave him the rock, and he gave the choir blessed rosaries. >> bobby, what was that moment? i'm going to be singing in five minutes. tell us what went through your head. >> at first, everybody was like, you must have been so nervous. but i was a little nervous but more excited. i was just more excited than ner voi -- nervous. >> i know. >> it was a life changing moment

for you. >> right now, i'm excited for whatever would happen next. >> wonderful. >> i hope i'll be able to sing for the president. i mean, singing for the pope was like the best thing that could happen, but the only thing that could become a close second is singing for the president. >> the girl choir, some sang for malala and the boys sang in norway. sung for presidents and heads of state. singing for the pope, that's what was incredible in being in philadelphia. you were there. it transcended religions. we have children who are jewish, christian, muslim, nothing, and it was larger than all of us. >> paging president obama. your move, sir. >> there's one left, president. >> bobby, thank you. you are something else. >> thank you so much. >> thank you for being here. coming up, presidential candidate senator rand paul will join us live on "new day." we'll talk about the big issues of the day from a new poll. donald trump's new tax plan.

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you're going to have a lot of people drop out. rand paul has to drop out. i mean, pataki hasn't really been in. he has nothing. you have four or five people that have to drop out. >> that was donald trump predicting that senator rand paul will drop out of the presidential race. joining us now to respond is gop presidential candidate and kentucky senator, rand paul. great to have you in the studio here. >> good to be here. >> sureou love hearing that sound from donald trump. what's your response to him? >> it reminds me of the funniest moment, i think, of the second debate, when out of nowhere, he starts going after me. i guess it's part of his bravado. i'll tell you this, i think we'll be around just as long as trump or longer. >> we do have that moment in the second debate, when out of nowhere, he went after you. even took a swipe at your looks. let's see -- >> what's a guy to do, you know?

>> let's see if we can play that for a second. >> first of all, rand paul shouldn't even be on this stage. he's number 11. he's got 1% in the polls. how he got up here, there's far too many people anyway. i never attacked him on his look and, believe me, there's plenty of subject matter right there. >> what are you thinking when that's happening? >> i'm thinking, how did we get the race for the most important office in the free world to sink to such depths, and how could anyone in my party think that this clown is fit to be president? i think, really, ultimately, we're going to get to the truth. ultimately, we're going to get to substance. it just takes awhile. by no means am i finished. i'm just getting started. >> it's not just donald trump. there's also this piece in politico this weekend that also is predicting your imminent demise. let me read a portion. >> please, spare me. >> it says, rand paul's campaign

reeks of the same stench of death that surrounded the perry and walker efforts before their demise. his fund raising is lagging and his campaign is behind. what's the path to victory? >> we have a unique message. one, war ought to be the last resort. we want less intervention in the middle east, not more. the boots on the ground over there need to be arab boots on the ground, not american boots on the ground. i think it's a unique position in both primaries. i think that being the one champion against the government collecting all of our phone records is also a unique voice. i think also, being the one who says, to be a conservative, you can't be for unlimited military spending and say, we're going to cut welfare spending but increase military spending. the problem in washington really is you have an unholy alliance between right and left, and they're both bankrupting the

country. that is a point i'll bring out, and i'm the only one on the stage who will. i think i need to be in the debate and, also, i think there are americans who are no longer republican or democrat, and i think i spribring the right mix reach people who are independent. >> you must want to punch people in the nose when you read articles like that because it's early in the game. >> it is early in the game. we wouldn't do everything if we planned on dropping out. we have 350 college campuses, over 1,000 students in iowa committed to caucus for us. we're just getting started. we're calling through all the lists. we're identifying our voters, doing the traditional campaigning. that doesn't show up because we've decided this election is all about national polling. national polling has nothing to do with the race. >> today, donald trump is unveiling his tax plan. i want to get your take on it.

we know a few details. no businesses will be taxed more than 15%. i think we can put up the slide so you can see it, as well. no federal income tax for individuals earning less than $25,000 or couples earning less than $50,000 a year. the highest individual tax bracket will be 25%, no longer 39%. eliminate or reduce deductions and loopholes for high income taxpayers like the hedge fund owners. what do you think of that? >> my tax plan gets rid of the entire code and we have 14.5% for everybody. my tax plan would cut taxes. his, i think, is going to keep taxes level, the same. what i've heard and i haven't seen it yet is he's going to have a vrevenue neutral, which means the people won't have any money remaining in the private market. i'll have 3 trillion remaining. on mine, you'll be able to fill out your tax plan on a postcard,

14.5%. we'll have enthuse phineenthusi. a family of four would have a $50,000 family exemption. people under $50,000 wouldn't pay anything. in my plan, everybody gets a cut, whether you're rich, middle income or poor. this is something trump and bush have been morfor. the people in hedge funds that are making -- paying 15%, we'll punish them by bringing them up. i would bring everybody down to their level. the same rate for everyone, but i wouldn't bring anyone up. i'd have everybody pay the same rate. >> let's talk about capitol hill. how surprised were you when speaker boehner announced his

resignation? >> i see the frustration of the conservative grassroots. they're frustrated, including myself, that we're not doing anything. >> who is next? who is going to be able to reign in all of these different parts of the warring gop in? >> i think the next thing is we do need to promote using the power of the purse. some said in the senate, you need 60 votes to defund anything. it's actually the opposite. if spending expires, then you need 60 votes to affirmatively pass anything. to my mind, there are thousands of programs that really shouldn't be there at all. for example, i'll give one quick example, we spent $300,000 last year studying whether japanese quail are more sexually promiscuous on cocaine. i think we can poll the audience and save $300,000.

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for low-income americans. pope francis is back home after his u.s. visit. he said consciousness objection is a human right. he says clergy who covered up the sex abuse are also guilty of the crime. joyce mitchell faces up to seven years behind bars for smuggling tools that allowed richard matt and david sweat to escape from a prison back in june. for more, visit "new day" cnn for the latest. ahead, what will john boehner's resignation mean for the republican party? we'll get some insight from this man, former house majority leader, eric cantor. he's here with us live. ♪ (woman) one year ago today mom started searching for her words.

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i was planning on leaving at the end of last year. when my friend, eric cantor, lost his primary election in july of last year, it occurred to me that i just couldn't leave. i had to provide a transition for the next leaders. so i planned on serving through this year. on november 17th, i was going to make an announcement. >> john boehner on cbs, talking about his surprise resignation as speaker of the house, and from the house all together. his decision could mean the government will not face another shut down at the end of the week. could not mean that, also. it's unclear what boehner's exit means for the already fractured republican party moving forward. here to give us insight is eric cantor, according to boehner, the man responsible for the

resignation. private sector is treating you well. you look good. you say, i was as surprised as the rest of you. is that true? >> i was stunned. pretty much, everybody was. i mean, john had not told anybody, other than his very close staff, that this was going to happen. i think he did it in classic boehner style. as he told the nation he was an alter boy when he was little, he's been a devout catholic, and to crown off his career on capitol hill with a visit by the pope, it was a huge deal. >> it had a better impact than even speaker boehner could have imagined. but the timing, i know he's emotional, and i know that can make you impulsive in politics and life, but he has his biggest moment and then he does this. why couldn't he just wait? >> listen, and he said that he wanted to put the institution first. there has been and have been in

washington a lot of myrurmuring about the leadership and the rest. i think the speaker decided he didn't want to damage the institution and felt he would go out on top. >> how does this help the gop moving forward? >> i think what this does is it gives the republican conference, the members there on capitol hill, an opportunity to come together, and then to really begin to discuss what can be accomplished in a divided government. some of the problem has been that there are false expectations being set, representations being made that just can't occur when you have divided government. if you don't have the white house and you don't have 2/3 of congress, trying to enact something, which is to force the president into submission, is probably not going to happen. what the party has done since it has been in the majority, it has blocked obama's legislative

agenda. if the leaders and ranking file members don't agree with what the president is doing, they have the authority and power to block. somewhere along the line, there have been voices in my party who have begun to say, wait a minute, blocking is not enough. if you can't get something done, if you can't pass it and change the law, then you're just a sellout. again, the president is there. he's got the veto pen. you need 2/3 of congress to overrun that. >> action by unaction inaction inherently unsatisfying. it makes a political point but, at some point, people who put you there want you to create an ajen gend agenda. does it empower your party, let's get boehner up and get conservative. no more deal making. let's go full throttle? >> people are frustrated. i'm frustrated. conservatives like i am are frustrated that we continue to see the kinds of disregard of

some of the rule book by the administration and this president. of course, they're frustrated. but i do think that this gives the party on the hill, and frankly, our presidential candidates, the opportunity to really begin to think what we can do if we did have the power to affect the outcome totally. we don't have that now, and that's the basis of the beginning of this discussion. >> i read in there that the shout down is less likely now. why isn't it more likely now? >> i think john boehner has said there's not going to be a shut down. in a couple days, the fiscal year will end and there needs to be a continuing resolution, as there's not agreement on a larger spending package. i believe it will get done because i think the democrats in the house don't want to see a government shut down. they'll be joined by, i'm sure, well over 100 republicans to fund the government. >> the planned parenthood stuff going on -- by the way, does it

make sense, the urgency to defund before you investigate in? >> when you see the videos of dismemberment of fetuses, going off to try to talk about selling some of the parts, that's p grotesque. >> you know the video that shows the baby that carly fiorina talked about is highly, highly doubtful, in terms of its authenticity. you know these people speaking there take everything they say as the truth. you still have to investigate. you are dealing with a handful of people that are going to reflect the funding of an entire institution? >> i don't think, given what evidence is out there, that the americans want their tax money going to that activity. i don't think you want to put the -- >> it's not what they give the money to. >> we all understand how it works. de facto, yes, the money is

going to benefit those who are performing those procedures. again, i think this is a question that is unequivocal. the president disagrees. >> couldn't that cause a shut down, if it's that important to this part of your party? >> again, i think there are enough people who say, we disagree with the president on this issue but we don't want to deprive the other arms of government the necessary funding. we went through this before and failed to counteract the narrative, if you weren't for shutting down the government, you support obamacare. that's ridiculous. why would you deprive a veteran of medical services. why would you want to deprive a child getting treated for pediatric cancer? we don't want to do that. i think there are enough people who realize, setting false expectations like so many are doing, and some of the presidential candidates are doing, that this is going to affect the positive outcome to

shut down the government, they're just wrong. i think there are enough people who counter that and say, hey, we'll keep the government open. >> eric cantor, we wish you very good luck in the private sector, but please know you're always welcome here to help us understand what's going on in your party and in the government. >> pleasure. >> appreciate it. think this is good for the gop, that boehner is stepping down, leaving congress altogether? what do you think is going to happen? tweet us, new day cnn or post your comment on facebook.com/new day. the good stuff is up next. xerox predictive analytics help companies provide a better and faster customer experience. hello mr. kent. can i rebook your flight? i'm here! customer care can work better. with xerox. wait i'm here! mr. kent? (gasp) shark diving! xerox personalized employee portals help companies make benefits simple and accessible... from anywhere. hula dancing?

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