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thanks so much for joining us tonight. don't forget to watch don lemon's interview with donald lemon's interview with donald trump tonight at 10:00. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >> good evening, breaking news tonight that could effect tens of millions of people, many dealing with the after effects of super storm sandy and bracing for a possible rerun. it's hurricane jakeem and seems to have the most densely populated part of the country directly in its path. late today, virginia's governor declared a state of emergency to prepare, president obama was briefed, new york governor andrew cuomo was urging people to get ready now. there are fresh information on this gathering storm. meteorologist jennifer gray is in our own weather center
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crunching numbers which jennifer, what's the latest? is happening to jakeem now? >> the latest advisory came dow? >> the latest advisory came down , we have an eye. this storm is strengthening and going to sit around the warm waters for the next couple days and allow more strengthening. it's in very rich environment for tropical development. we'll expect further strengthening over the next couple days but the big question mark is where is it going to go from here? i want to show you the track on the the floor. this is the latest track from the national hurricane center, another track will come out around 11:00 p.m. but right now, this has it sitting over the bahamas, at least through friday and taking a dramatic turn to the north, could strengthen to a major storm and possibly making landfall around the carolinas, mid atlantic from anymore from south carolina to the northeast
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needs to be on the lookout from this storm. >> breaking news, category two storm now that happened about two minutes ago and where you're standing, jennifer, very densely populated part of this country, philadelphia, washington d.c., virginia, new jersey all problematic, no? >> absolutely. there is still a lot of uncertainty with this storm. is it going to take a turn to the west? some models even have it staying out to sea and so a lot of question marks, i want to show you back on the wall what exactly we're looking at. the forecast models all agree it's going to take a turn to the north except for maybe one out lying model. we're also looking at most of the models taking it to the west and this is quite a bit farther south than some earlier runs. you remember new york city was well into the center of that cone. now it's sort of shifts back down to the west. one model you're looking at closely, european model has it over bermuda sunday afternoon and north carolina.
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there is about 1,000 miles between the two and we're hoping in the coming days, they are going to come and agree a little more. the problem is this area of low pressure over the southeast, if this decides to deepen, then that storm could take that path and it will just more or less get sucked back into the mid atlantic. if that low decides not to, it could allow the storm to travel to the north and boom, get carried out by a high and swept out to sea. that's one of the things we're trying to distinguish between and get these models to agree a little better. if it does travel to the west and take how most of the models portray it, we're looking at massive amounts of rain, the mid atlantic seen over a foot of rain in the last several days and we could see an additional eight to ten inches that will cause major flooding across the maryland atlantic and storm surge, beach erosion and damaging winds, as well.
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>> stay tuned over the next 24 hours, we'll get a much clearer picture. thank you. more breaking news on what is looking like an old fashioned super power standoff but during the cold war, the u.s. and soviet union never openly dropped bombs on the same country the is the same time. missions with different targets and goals and perhaps dangerous complicatio complications. today russian war planes launched the first air strikes there with almost no warning to the u.s. and reportedly hit non-isis targets. late today after an urgent meeting at the u.n., john kerry and russian counter part announced their respective military commanders could be sitting down perhaps as early as tomorrow to make sure things don't get out of hand. barbara starr keeping an eye on the developments and joins us with more. barbara, the russian air strikes, what's the latest tonight? >> john, a day of high drama. this all began earlier today
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when a russian general showed up at the u.s. embassy and said we'll start air strikes in one hour, get your planes, your u.s. war planes out of syria. tonight, the pentagon insisting it will continue air strikes that it chooses to do inside syria. u.s. war planes not going anywhere, the big concern right now from defense secretary ash carter is how to keep u.s. pilots safe in the same air space as russians but also what are the russians really up to? where they struck is not an isis stronghold. that's very concerning to the u.s. they struck in areas where there are anti regime forces, militias fighting bashar al-assad and russia is doing what the u.s. doesn't want to see, propping up assad, john? >> what is the u.s. doing besides just watching, being a spectator as it were? the u.s. is continuing its own air strikes against isis and
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thousands of them over the last year. >> that's right. more than 7,000 strikes so number one, continuing with the strikes that it wants to do that the u.s. and the coalition want to do, but in his press conference, defense secretary ash carter was clear one of his next steps is to sit down with the russian military, he's assembling a team to do that. they want a sit down as soon as possible, talk to the russians about procedures for both sides, keeping their pilots safe, what kind of information they need to share, how to stay out of each other's way while at the same time the state department is going to pursue the political track to try and see if they can get the russians convince that assad has to go. john? >> barbara starr at the pentagon, thanks so much. >> sure. all right. we have big campaign news tonight. donald trump speaking with fresh signs that he's still packing a polling punch. new numbers from u.s. today
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showing him far out ahead of his gop rivals, ben carson and carly fiorina and marco rubio and jeb bush in fifth place. sarah murray joins us from key new hampshire where a trump town hall wrapped up. trump seemed loaded for bear tonight in attack mode. >> yeah, john, i'm calling it something like a trump attack and going after marco rubio and jeb bush marking friend enemies attitude, always friends but going after each other but trump took on a more serious note. he was in a very crowded gym but went in detail when talking about what he would want to do with isis and tax plan and talked about immigration and even talked about the syrian refugee crisis saying if he wins this election, he will send the syrian refugees home, john. >> this is one of the first real town meetings and public appearances and we saw him again
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with notes laying out details. >> reporter: yeah, you're exactly right and this is not something we usually see from donald trump. it tends on a free-wheeling speech tonight. he had notes and talked at length about the tax policy digging into details here. as you might imagine, this is not exactly what gets the crowd roaring but were here and eng e engaged and a much more substantive teach. this is a policy speech, we want to keep you on your toes and voters care about what candidate wills do as president and laid out details whether it came to tax poll easy, immigration or veterans affairs, trump sort of broke a little news saying in the next couple weeks he will come out with additional policy how to deal the with the v.a. and long backlog. >> and he swore at least twice, which is the not something you hear often in the campaign. we'll hear some of those words and perhaps one of those swears coming up. we're also going to talk to two
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reporters that spent hours and days up close with donald trump. you'll hear what he thinks about his rise and how long he expects to stay there. later, was it boasting a confession or something else with the leading house republican said about the benghazi hearings that has spun nearly all of washington into a t izzy and could have big implications for hillary clinton. ♪ centrum brings us the biggest news... in multivitamin history. a moment when something so familiar... becomes something so...new. introducing new centrum vitamints. a multivitamin that contains a full spectrum of essential nutrients...
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new hampshire sparking controversy not just because we swore but what he said about refugees. more on that and his conversation with don lemon. first, key remarks from donald trump in new hampshire. >> two weeks ago i was making a speech and said i respect women, i cherish women and hilary said we don't want to be cherished, we want to be respected. i said i said that. i think you want to be cherished, too. it's better than respect. it's everything. you want to be respected, loved, cherished, everything. i'm putting the people on notice to the people coming here from syria as part of mass migration, if i win, if i win, they are going back. they are going back. i'm telling you. bush is the mentor of rubio and everybody said rubio will never run because it would be disrespectful to his mentor and
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i understand that. it's called loyalty. he runs. and they ask bush what do you think of rubio? he's my dear friend. he's so wonderful. i love him so much. so they ask rubio, what do you think of bush? oh, he's my dear friend, wonderful. they hate each other. hate. trust me, i know. it's political bull. one of my opponents said the thing about trump that's really hard, he's so damn unpredictable we don't know what the hell he's going to do. i said i want to be unpredictable. i want to be. so when they ask me and so does the patten and so does mceldear. what do i want to do with syria. i know. i don't want to tell. i don't want them to say trump
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is going to do this so we'll do this. i want to be unpredictable. >> a lot to talk about there. joining us jeffrey lord, anna navarro, kevin madden. anna is a jeb bush supporter, close friend of marco rubio and kevin is a former campaign aid to romney. we heard donald trump and swore at least twice, hillary clinton imitation and jeb bush imitation and gloating about his poll numbers shows him out in front by at least ten points and ben carson this second place. what do you make of the event tonight? i have to say, you know, we've heard donald trump say things that are controversial but swearing and talking about syrian refugees saying he's going to send them back? >> is that okay? we can use the bull word? i didn't know that and donald trump is by far the greatest bs
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artist in this race right now. this is a vintage donald trump speech. it's this ranting and raving and winging it from one top pick to the next where he just offers not a vision where he wants to take the country but running commentary. look at the polls and at a certain point that's a problem for donald trump should those polls change but if you look at some polls, some of the respond da dents when asked to describe him, arrogant, out of touch, crazy. those are not the type of words people use when they are going to select a nominee. look, this speech again last night shows that we are still in the entertainment portion of our program. this is not -- we're not going through the process of voters selecting a nominee. >> jeffrey, let's pick up on
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that because kevin brought it up. the polls show him in front but the same poll with the ten-point lead and asked voters the first word they would use to describe donald trump. let me tell you the first words, idiot, jerk, stupid or dumb, apparently a combination. idiot, jerk, stupid or dumb. he's winning but you don't wan to be described like that, do you? >> you know, john, i think that something that happened today illustrates exactly why donald trump is so popular. we had the president of the united states sit down with vladimir putin yesterday and putin never said what he was about to do in terms of sending in the russian air force to bomb syria. never said a word. we're finding out today they find out by sending a general to the embassy in baghdad. does anybody seriously believe that vladimir putin would have treated a president donald trump that way? >> jeffrey, but jeffrey -- >> i don't think so.
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>> but voters think he's an idiot, gorge, stjerk, stupid or >> they called mitt romney nice but he's not president, is he. >> anna, in between the swears and poll talk he did say any syrian refugee that leaves syria because of the crisis in the country with bombs dropping and god knows what else, if they come to the u.s. when donald trump is president, they are all going home. >> i think what he's doing is and panlding on a point that brought him to this place which is hard lined, absolutely no exceptions on immigration. it's what brought him to the limelight to begin with in that speech that he gave in june when he announced for president and said he wants to build a wall, a big, beautiful wall because he's great at building things and can build a beautiful wall and he's going to keep immigrants out and i think that includes syrians.
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i think he's being very consistent with a theme and a theme that worked for him in the past. john, i just wanted to tell you something, there is a lot of cutting cu cussing in politics, usually not in front of cameras. >> i've been to a few campaign events and i don't think i've heard of a candidate swear -- except dick cheney. i heard him mutter something. there is breaking news elsewhere, ben carson running second in the polls, his campaign released a fundraising figure, $20 million, they brought in $20 million this quarter. that is a lot of money. apparently, i think it's a record for republicans in this specific quarter. what do you make of that? >> yeah, a very impressive number, i think i expect that once we find out where that money came from, they will be able to point to a type of grass roots fundraising success with small donors.
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a lot of ben carson support right now is coming from a lot of evangelicals or others within the party at the grass roots that feel like an outsider like him is the best position to represent the party and help change the party. one of the other they thinks i'll be looking for is it costs a lot of money to raise that money. so ben carson may have raised $20 million but did he have to spend 10, 12, $14 million to do that and doesn't have a lot of cash on hand? >> we don't know that. to be clear, the campaign says they are getting a lot of money from small donors. anna navarro, your boss or friend jeb bush will he raise more than $20 million this quarter? >> i have no idea. i will tell you that i also heard that bernie sanders raised something like $24 million. it tells you that outsiders are in vogue right now and yes, we have to see what the cash on hand is and what kind of operation they are building with the money. but ben carson's numbers are impressive because there has
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been 17 people running in the republican field so that one of them is able to get that much money, yes, sir, it's impressive. >> jeffrey lord, anna navarro, kevin madden, thanks so much and thanks for keeping it clean. what does donald trump make of the air strikes in syria? trump answered by saying they don't respect president obama. we're getting much more of what he said next. so you're a small business expert from at&t? yeah, give me a problem and i've got the solution. well, we have 30 years
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assad. >> i'm hearing that and then you say to yourself, assad bad guy killed hundreds of thousands of people but wonder what will happen with the other people that we don't know who they are. we always give weapons, give billions of dollars in weapons and turn them against us. we have in control. we don't know the other people we're supposed to be backing. we don't even know who we're backing. >> don lemon joins now and don, donald trump has run into issues with foreign policy, interview with hue huet in the past but today he seemed to jump right in. >> he did and gave a couple more specifics but he still relying on listen, i don't want to give it away. people tell me i'm unpredictable and that's what you have to do with foreign policy, you must be unpredictable and cannot let the enemy where you're going and pushed back and said but if you're voting for president, right, you need to know the american people need to know where at least they think you're going in this, with foreign policy especially when it comes
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to what is happening in syria. >> unpredictable and knowledgeable -- >> he said look for specifics to come as he put out his specifics in regards to his taxes. >> he did get to syrian refugees and you pressed to the conflict of syria and what to do with the people suffering and leaving that country. >> i asked him a question and he turned it into that. i asked him about, i said, should there be rules of engagement because you have syria, you've got russia flying there, the u.s. flying there. one false move, right, who knows what can happen and he said well maybe it would world war 3 but i tell you the people coming from there are going back. listen this. >> a couple of bad moves, maybe not one, couple bad moves, world war three over syria, right? i don't think so. i don't think so. look, if russia wants to go in there, would have been nice if we went in as a unified front to
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be honest, but if russia wants to go in there and knock out isis and maybe stabilize, this big migration with 200,000 people into the united states and i will tell you, if i win, i'm going to say it right now and i'll say it to you, those 200,000 people, they have to know this and the world will hear it are going back. we're not going to accept 200,000 people that may be isis. when you look at the migration, there are so many men and men that look strong to me, i'm pretty good at analyzing things. where are the women? they look strong and young. number one, why aren't they fighting for their country? number two, what is going on? why are we accepting thousands, i heard a number today, 200,000. that's almost like are they bringing, are these people isis? we have no idea who they are and i'm telling you now, they may
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come in through the weakness of obama. they will not stay. they are going back to syria whether safe zones or whatever but they are going back to syria. >> refugees going back to syria. don lemon stick around. i want to bring in someone that spent a lot of time with donald trump for a new york times magazine cover story with the headline "donald trump is not going anywhere" the chief national spo national correspondent. he got to watch trump watch himself on tv a lot. mark joins us now. i want to read you a favorite quote from your story that has to do with something you seen tonight. you saw donald trump is a match with this political moment. and tonight, we saw donald trump swear on this stuff throwing bss around and imitating hillary clinton and jeb bush. is that what this moment calls for? >> specifically swearing, i don't think he'll lose any votes because of that but i think that
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that is a problem of everything that trump does, which is in someways unpredictable but something that flies very much in the face of normal politics. he has been very, very effective with credibility been able to be opposite anyone whose been in politics and he can say that i'm above the false generalness that marco rubio and jeb bush might engage in when they hate each other, let me tell you, they really hate each other this is part of the message resinating and going to a moment and electret starving for something different. >> a reason it's different is you are pressing on big questions people are asking for months, where is this going? how does this end? you kept asking donald trump that. >> yeah, he always two ld sayal have no idea and add profanity. he modified the word idea and i won't tell you the profanity but
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you can probably guess. i think he is very much making this up, i don't think he knows where he will be one month from now, one week from now and that's part of what is so fascinating about this to watch. there is no precedent. so many people in my business and politics have been wrong about so many steps of the way of this process. he wasn't going to run or file. he filed. he almost went immediately to the front and stayed for three months and still to this day is all we're talking about. who knows where it ends. that's the on going question and he keeps kind of raising the stakes as he goes along. >> i want to put this to both of you. the first thing that happened after the cnn debate. he looked tired and when he walked off the stage, he commented on how long the debate was and the week following, his poll numbers plateaued and he didn't have it seemed quite as much energy as he had had before. today as i was looking at him in
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new hampshire, it seemed different. don lemon, when you were with him today, was he full of the fight we saw early they are summer? >> he was and said i hope you run all of that because i think we had a good back and forth and energetic heading to a town hall where we caught up today where you guys showed him today. can i speak about what mark said? i asked him specifically about what mark said. i said do you, did you think you would go this far, be honest with me. we were walking out of the interview talking. he said i thought that i would go this far but i didn't think i would be this popular. i said do you think come this time next year do you think you'll be the nominee? he said i don't know but if i could move the election up now to this point i would and he says he only gets four hours sleep a night. >> four hours sleep a night, doesn't eat particularly well, doesn't exercise, 69 years old. can he keep this up until iowa in new hampshire in february?
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>> unclear. again, this pace and this sort of style has never been attempted before. he's never run for anything before. so i mean, it remains to be seen where his metabolism is built for this. he is very, very different. he's very unabashed with i don't work out and friends work out and have knee replacements and hip replacements and are disasters. there is long unplugged "seinfeld" like moments that were very entertaining but just to be around him at a moment when he's going through this now is pretty amazing. >> he needs this. >> thank you so much -- i'm in favor of exercise and eating right. >> and sleeping. >> you can see don's full enter ro -- interview at 10:00 eastern. ma lelania opens up after h interview.
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been flying under the tradar. donald trump told don lemon that may be about to change. >> we saw her coming down the escalator with you when you made the announcement. will we see more of her. >> very much so. she's very much into the women's health issues and i think she'll be amazing. >> melania trump keep as low profile but in the current issue of "people" the power couple open up. >> we met in new york 1998. >> reporter: when donald trump laid eyes on his future third bride she refused to give him her number but she tells ""people magazine"" she thought donald had sparkle and eventual twl recalled him and the rest is history. "people magazine" interviewed her at the couple's 66th floor penalty house apartment in the trump tower.
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m politics off the table. i'm not ready to go political yet. she told "people" i'm my own person, i'm not a yes person. when asked about giving donald advice, even if you give him advice, he will maybe take it in but then do it the way he wants to do it. this is melania's first interview since her husband declared his canadendidacy. donald's daughter announced him. melania attended the recent c nrks nrncnn debate but her husband never acknowledged her and mrs. trump was also visibly absent. "people magazine" senior editor that wrote the article said melania had a busy summer
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traveling with the couple's 9-year-old son baron. baron needs somebody as a parent so i'm with him all the time. the trumps reportedly have a cook but no nanny. donald talked to "people" about the challenges. >> running for office has impacted the family in that i just don't have the time that i would love to have to spend with my children and my wife but it's something they understand how important it is what we're doing. >> melania is a slovenia immigrant. she became naturalized citizen the year after she married done nod. her response, i went through a whole long process. it didn't even cross my mind to just stay here. i think people should follow the law. in her free time she enjoys tennis, pilites and fashion. does she imagine herself as first lady, maybe not as clearly as her husband does, acknowle e acknowledging it's a long road
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new sharp language on the campaign trail tonight, jab from jeb. he spent the day campaign income a town hall that ended a short time ago. a new poll released today shows him in fifth place nationally down at 8%. fair to say probably not where he wants to be or expected to be.
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his former rival, marco rubio allies back then and now rivals. in an interview today with dana bash, mr. bush took shots at rubio. so dana, i understand that you had a chance to sit down with him today and also asked about the tax plan, yes? >> reporter: i did and he was very interesting when it comes to the tax plan and whole host of issues but on the rubio issue, what is most fascinating and you know this, january, the two were close and apparently still are friends but it is really, really personal that not just donald trump is doing better than jeb bush, marco rubio is. i was supposed how tough he was on his former friend. >> i relied on people like marco rubio and many others to follow
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my leadership and we move the needle, led the nation in job growth, reduced the role of government, reformed the things that were broken, took on very powerful interests and won and i could be that disruptor in washington d.c. look, we've had a president who came in and said the same kind of thing, new and improved, hope and change and he didn't have the leadership skills to fix things. in fact, he's been the greatest, most decisive in history. >> if you didn't catch that, i'm sure you did, he was clearly comparing marco rubio to barack obama which is the biggest no-no you can do if you're a republican. here at this town hall earlier, he said people many congress who don't show up for votes should get their pay docked. guess who hasn't showed up for just about more absentee votes
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than any senator marco rubio. >> now, dana, donald trump just a short while ago was talking about the marco rubio jeb bush relationship and say they are great friends and trump called it political b.s. except he didn't use the initials there, he said the actual words. what does jeb say about that tonight? >> reporter: you know, it happened while jeb bush was talking so i think hats off to his staff because between his town hall here and i guess ten feet over to where, from where i am, he actually gave a talk to reporters, myself included and i asked about that moment and tried to be a lady about it. he wouldn't let me get away with it but had interesting words for donald trump. watch this. >> i will not answer that question until i hear exactly what he said and the terminology he used. >> we can read it. [ laughter ] >> all right. >> i'm not going to answer it
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until you -- >> political you know what. >> no, no, you got to say it. if you want me to -- >> he said political bull. >> what's the question? i'm not clear. >> between you and marco rubio, it's not a real friendship or relationship you really hate each other? >> first of all, i'm sure marco can put big boy pants on, i know i can and we're friends and i can take criticism, he can, as well. done nod seems to have a harder time taking criticism and probably needs to put on his big boy pants, too. he's running for the president of the united states. he's great at the giving it out. but we're close friends and i admire him greatly and it's a little awkward as i've always said he's running for the same spot i am but has every right to
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do it and i'm a friend and every debate we have turns out we're going to the same church to pray at noon and i love his family and kids, janette is a great person and donald trump has no knowledge about my relationship with marco rubio. >> all right. dana bash, you have a potty mouth. second of all, politically speaking, what are -- >> it was a direct quote. >> on the record right now. what are big boy pants when you speak about politics right now? >> you know, kind of stiffing your spine and suck it up. that's basically it. you got to play in the big leagues you got to know how to do it and the point he was making there was something donald trump himself admitted. he's got thin skin. he doesn't like to be attacked. he doesn't like to hear criticism of himself and when he does, he hits right back and the point jeb bush was making was you heard in my interview, he said not easy things about marco
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rubio. they can take it. donald trump should be able to, as well. >> that's as loose as i've seen jeb bush on the trail in some time. >> even more election heat and burning question did the top republican in line to be speaker of the house admit to using the investigative power of the house for a political hit job on hillary clinton over benghazi? some believe house majority leader kevin mccarthy has done just that. last knight he told sean hanma hannity, we put together a benghazi special committee. what are her numbers today? he says no one would have known any of that happened had we not fought. reaction from the clinton camp and leading member of his party. comments from kevin mccarthy,
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democrats for years and now the chairman of this committee has been working over time to show he's as fair as possible blown out of the water and political exercise. one of many things in washington confirms the obvious, what a lot of people suspected. it draws his leadership into question and undermines the work of benghazi committee. >> really interesting over the last several hours not just democrats talking but republicans, too. called this an inappropriate statement and said on cnn to wolf blitzer. >> he did. he is heartily anything but a conservative republican from utah. he said that kevin mccarthy should apologize for this,
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should retract his statement. we have to watch this carefully. the house leadership elections are october 8th that is coming, this could undermine kevin mccarthy but cause democrats to rally around hillary clinton. she is scheduled to testify before the committee on october 22nd. it could be one of the biggest days in her campaign in the fall campaign and now this is all definitely being viewed under a political lens. his own words on it. >> big moment following the bigger moment, cnn debate october 13th. thanks for being with us. appreciate it. new accusations against warren jeff. two of his many children saying he actually abused them. or stop to find a bathroom? cialis for daily use is approved to treat both erectile dysfunction and the urinary symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently, day or night. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex.
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in just a few minutes, the premiere of a new season of "this is life of lisa ling." for the first time, we're speaking out about the abuse they say they suffered, we'll speak to lisa in a moment. first, a preview of the episode. >> one of my earliest mens of him sexually abusing me. i was about four or five years old and this is where my dad did it, i remember him telling me you should never do this.
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then he did it to me. >> it was not an easy endeavor to get them to speak. they are two of warren jeff's many children that escaped. >> how many kids do you think your father molested? >> i don't know, sometimes i think ten, 20. i hope it's not more than that. >> lisa ling joins me now and i should say she'll be live tweeting tonight's episode that starts in a few minutes. lisa, these kid haves never spoken about this before publicly. why did they decide to come forward now? >> it's so courageous for them. roy left two year ago and becky less than one. they want to tell a story difficult to talk about but their father controls thousands of people inside the flds and desperately want those people i
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what he did to them, he had this nature about him before he became the hand of god. >> he may be behind bars but presence still there and i understand they wanted him to see this show. this episode. >> becky called me and said can you prison play this episode because the only person who can change things for the people is warren jeffs. he is the only person who can tell the people inside that he is not the profit and a fraud. >> will they play it? >> we're not sure. we hope he does. we're not sure. >> quick preview, biker gang? >> next week, the amoclub the federal government is targeting and after waco, there has been heightened surveillance on motorcycle clubs around the country and spend time in a jail in richmond, virginia that has this incredible fatherhood program that has a father daughter dance inside the jail and it's a beautiful episode.
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>> can't wait to see that. thank you for being with us. that does it for us. we'll see you again at 11:00 for another edition of ""ac 360" and the season premiere of "this is life with lisa ling" starts right now. "ac 360" and the season premiere of "this is life with lisa ling" starts right now. when you touch someone, the fire of the spirit of god is felt by that person, by that child, by the thing you're handling. >> there are few figures in vent recent history as the polygamiest leader warren jeffs. he controls the ladder day saints known as the flds but walls and zion are starting to come down. in growing numbers, members of his flock are starting to questi