yesterday. which is not exciting. we want them to all agree all the time. that is the way we know they are correct. 120-mile-an-hour storm. hurricane hunters have been flying through the storm all night long. it will hang out in the bahamas for almost 48 hours. then it will make a run to the north. it is the hanging out part that has the models confused. they don't know if it will shoot to the north or shoot to the east and away. we still have this differential of models. one to the left of the united states and one not. everyone is asking if it will hit new york city and long island? look how far the line goes to west virginia? or all the way out to bermuda when we get that far out. models were focused on north carolina. not so much today. many models missing north carolina. we showed you these models yesterday. one is gfs. the american model right there. yesterday afternoon, this model

was here. now i think it will go to north carolina. now today it is here. it has changed its mind. yesterday, the gfs is here. today it is here. not changing its mind at all. so that puts more things on it. this is still three days away from the u.s. no matter what, it will hang out in the bahamas for a long time. 120 miles per hour. forecast to get stronger than that before it makes a run at the u.s. if it does. victor blackwell is live with that start of the story. >> reporter: good morning to you. taking a beating from the storm here now. another day of wind and rain

forecast as cities up and down the east coast set new rainfall records on wednesday. they are waiting to see what comes next. this morning, the east coast drenched and on high alert. coastal states soaked by rain ahead of hurricane joaquin expected landfall. virginia already sopping in downpours with moisture rich air from the gulf of mexico. the governor declaring a state of emergency. >> we are putting sand bags together tomorrow mortganing. >> reporter: heavy rainfall dropping more than 10 inches of rain in states. parts of maryland impassible. >> it looked like a freaking river. >> reporter: homes damaged in maine. >> in a matter of ten minutes, we were under water. >> reporter: massachusetts pounded by record-breaking rainfall. >> a lot of water logged people

walking around our city. >> reporter: flooding so intense this woman had to be rescued from her flooded car. the driver of the tractor-trailer dead after it flipped on the highway. as joaquin bruised into the atlantic, fema getting ready. joaquin with winds up to 120 miles an hour. an ominous sign for new england still recovering from another october hurricane, sandy just three years ago. flood weary residents hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst. >> it is what it is. you can't do anything about it. if it comes, it comes. if it don't, it don't. >> reporter: you can see how strong the winds are here along the boardwalk on virginia beach. this is not part of joaquin. take a look at the surf. pretty significant chop. it is important to tell you there is beach erosion.

that barrier that would protect property on the east coast is long gone by the time joaquin comes along here late sunday into monday as the national weather service predicts. the people here predict and preparing as best they can while already taking this punch. back to you michaela. >> thank you, victor. we will check in with you later and more on hurricane joaquin throughout our show. we want to turn now to the escalating situation in syria. u.s. officials unclear about putin's intentions of the air strikes in syria. the russian defense ministry says eight targets. pentagon correspondent barbara starr is wading through it all and trying to make sense of it all. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, michaela. they told the americans to keep

your planes out of the skies in syria. they are saying thanks, but keep going. the question is why are you propping up assad. the first day of russian air strikes in syria, russian aircraft targeted a weapons depot and army vehicles belonging to rebel battalions, not isis, according to the syrian observatory for human rights. on wednesday, the russian defense ministry claiming eight locations targeted were isis positioned, but u.s. officials express doubt warning the strikes to further enflame the civil war in syria. the areas the russians hit, the city of hama and houms. including where al nusra and other anti-assad groups are

fighting the regime. a russian general giving the u.s. an one-hour notice before the air strikes began. >> i don't think it is surprising that russia is using the new military abilities. particularly in light of their longstanding efforts to prop up the assad regime. >> reporter: secretary kerry trying to diffuse the rising tensions with u.s. and moscow, but holding firm on the u.s. policy tweeting the u.s. supports any genuine effort to fight isil, however, we will not be confused in our fight against isil with support for assad. gop members quick to pounce. criticizing the obama administration's handling of russia and the downward spiral in syria. >> the president has said for years, assad must go. he has done nothing that brought us closer to achieving that

outcome. >> reporter: now those talks with the u.s. and russian military about this keeping russian and u.s. pilots safe in the keys when they fly near each other, those talks could happen today. chris. >> deconfliction. a weird term and now it is playing out in a weird way. let's get deeper. barbara starr, thank you. we have thomas pickering with us and james spider. now the executive dean at university of phoenix. dean, good to have you. general dean? >> go with it. >> let's talk about the reality and rationale. let's go to the map and look at reality. here is where russia is bowling acco bombing as our information. this will not match up with the layover on the darker areas. that is where isis is supposed

to be. >> out to the east. >> is this as obvious as it looks on the map? they are over there, but they are over here? >> lines we draw on the map are never that distinct. it is easy to put a goose egg on the map saying this is where the bad guys are and the good guys here. these estimates on the map are pretty good. very good. >> the suggestion is then that they are not bombing where isis is in the main. what is the reason for that? let's go to the next phase of the map that shows the military installations in relation to damascus. >> anti-regime forces are more to the east. co- joining where assad is and where isis is. that is not where the presence is and not fighting. clearly what russia has done is made a strong determination they will go after anti-regime forces. their long term objective is to

bolster assad. >> ambassador pickering, this is not what they said they would do. as explained to the media. and this is helpful in the war of isis. where do you see this in terms of the rationale? >> putin is always hard to figure out. he says one thing the one day and the next thing the next day. it is important to see what is happening on the ground. as you have seen overnight and yesterday, the strikes have been clearly against elements against assad. assad has been losing ground. there are reports that syrian air force helicopters followed up with barrel bombs. some are coming out of people who wish to influence the outcome. enough of that is out there now that i think to be very, very clear that what the russians have said about isis has not shown up on the ground yet and all of this welcoming stuff and

all of the nice stuff would be good if it happened, but we have not seen it. there are two reasons possibly. one, the most direct and important one, i think, putin wants it that way. the other is, they are not capable and they sort of screwed up. i don't think that latter is really true. >> general, that takes us into deconfliction, which is a word i had to look up. you don't want to mix up if you are on the same side. you have on the ground this is the flight path on the left of the russian jets and the bigger circle. they are coming close to each other. on the ground, it is more than that if the information is to be believed. russia is bombing the same rebel groups the u.s. is trying to help. >> first of all, deconfliction is a term that we talk about on the ground and in the air space. that has to be addressed.

and there are very tactical ways to go about that. the concern i have is right now, what needs to be done and obviously it is being done as you can see on the map. you draw a line. you say don't send anything over here. >> you are supposed to be on the same side. >> deconfliction provides that. that's not what russia is doing. >> that is what has people like senator john mccain upset. he said this is what you are doing. you are feeding putin. you believed what he said. he decided to play kingmaker. is senator mccain right? >> we see every evidence of that right now. if deconfliction takes place, we are seeing a no-fly zone that we have informally enforced in the area where we are bombing isis is now become split. and in effect, what will happen is that under the protection of

deconfliction could the syrian air force begin to do a lot more than currently it seems to be able to do and this is interesting to watch. it is a fast moving and very confused situation. i think over the next 24 to 48 hours, we will see a couple of things. will we contact the russian military? will the russian military cooperate? yesterday, they gave us an hour notice they will fly. will that produce a united effort against isis? can that be translated to something bigger? we hoped that would be the case from what putin said at the u.n. and other newspaper stories. that seems to be fading a bit. despite the fact that sergei lavrov and secretary kerry yesterday worked out a good set of arrangements. we will see if those can prevail. >> button it up for us, general. >> things we don't have is

experience working with the russians in a tactical level on the ground or in the air. we are talking about captains working with captains and majors. that is a new experience. >> the first wave of information is not good. let's see what happens next and what the conference yields going forward. general, thank you. ambassador pickering, thank you. appreciate it. please come back. i appreciate it. >> thanks, chris. some breaking news overnight. developing story. the afghan government says its forces have retain control the northern city of kunduz from the taliban. they are still fighting pockets of rebels. u.s. forces carrying out more air strikes in the city of kunduz airport to eliminate the threat. this is happening as the taliban spokesperson claimed that afghan forces have been pushed back again. turning to politics now. we have new reporting on whether joe biden will jump into the

2016 race. insiders telling cnn that biden is pushing back his decision date. what does that mean? we have correspondent jeff zeleny with more. jeff. >> reporter: vice president biden is extending his window again. he is not expected to make his decision until early october. he is not expecting to go to the debate on october 13th in las vegas. we learned from people close to biden he is not pressured to reach a decision before them. he is likely to reach his decision in the second half of october. with every passing week, many democrats close to biden tell us they believe he will ultimately decide to challenge hillary clinton and the field. people close to the vice president say it is important to listen to his own words. particularly in this interview late last month. >> it is not quite there yet. i may not get there in time to

make it feasible to be able to run and succeed because there are certain windows that will close. if that's it, that's it. it's not like i can rush it. >> reporter: now a campaign apparatus is waiting should he decide to do it. so far, he has not asked any advisers to swing into action. we spoke with some close to biden this week. the same caveat emerges. that debate in two weeks will likely have five candidates on it. hillary clinton, bernie sanders, martin o'malley and lincoln chaffee and jim webb. chris. >> that will be instructive for people. we will see what the needs are coming out of it. biden is not judged by the normal measures. we know what he is going through personally. jeff, thank you.

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as he spoke to cnn's don lemon about conflicts and campaign rivals. >> reporter: are we going to see a kinder, gentler donald trump? you are, it's much better once you get into position. look, i built a great company. i have a great temperament, although jeb bush said my tone is a little bit tough. it's a tough world. we can't have people of low energy. i use that expression, there are numerous people, it's not only jeb, you have many people running that are low energy people. we don't have that choice. but in tellers of temperament, i think i have a great temperament. i have a temperament that wins. i don't know how to win. that's all i've been doing, all my life, winning. >> the former president, bill clinton talked about the gop race, here's what he said. >> you shouldn't be able to insult your way into the white house. or using politically incorrect phrases on either side.

>> what's your reaction? >> look, i had tremendous success with "the apprentice." i've done books i've had a great career and a lot of fun doing it. with me, it's not about that, i've may hundreds s and hundre of deals that are great deals. there are no such things as deals. people are basically deals. you have to be able to read and see what's going on. most people are doing that. he is defending his wife. his wife has been very nasty to me. every time she gets up, she makes a statement, they says i say this or that. he's been a terrible secretary of state. >> have you complemented her befory. >> i would compliment you because i want you to speak well of me.

i'm a businessman -- look, as one magazine said, i've been a world class businessman. all over the world. i compliment everybody, i'm not going to is a bad about the secretary of state and then i'm doing a deal in 18 different countries right now. i'm nice to everybody. why would i not compliment her? you really look at it, the real problem is, what has she done as secretary of state? now, she's hit me very hard. so i don't feel guilty. but everybody that i've hit, a lot of people say i've hit hard. but i'm a counterpuncher. when rubio hit me, he's got a lot of things going very weak on immigration. i hit him hard. i hit rand paul hard. he came out of nowhere. he was, oh, donald, you're so great, so wonderful. all of a sudden, three weeks ago, he starts hitting me. the only time i go after people is when they hit me.

i'm a kurcounterpuncher. i don't want to hit them. i think it's bad for the republican party. for the whole process. when i win, it's hard to support. in the meantime, i have to hit one before i look at the other. as far as hillary is concerned i don't feel guilty at all, because she's been very nasty to me over the last three or four weeks in her speeches so i'm going to hit back. >> all right. a lot to talk about with the roundup of all political news, cnn analyst jeff zeleny. and errol louis. what jumped out from that donald trump sitdown? >> it's hard to get away from the notion that you're listening to something -- somebody talking about a schoolyard dispute. i don't go first. he hit me first. he's literally using these words. it's hard to get past the way the discourse has been lower to the that level.

beyond that, donald trump is leveling out in the polls eight to ten republicans want somebody else. >> hold on a second, is he -- in july, "usa today," here's what the polls is a, trump is still on top. 23%. look at what happened in july, he was at 17%. leveling out, shehe's still goi up from the summer. >> he's leading by closer to 12 points. that gap is not where i think he wants it to be. so that's number one. secondly, it simply hasn't moved. those same polls tell you 7.5 to 8 republicans out of 10 want somebody else to be the nominee other than trump. if he wants that to change, he's going to have to start moving up. he's going to have to take support from others. >> also, jeff, errol is touching

on something that has a layer statistic, which is his built-in negative is well over 50%. higher than everybody else. which raises the question that we have to deal with on a daily basis. is the media propping this up or support for him that could potentially grow? >> chris, of course, the media has been propping him up because he's talking. he's a candidate that seems to be answering questions. enjoying being on television, the attention that comes with that for good or for bad. and that certainly has drawn him some support. but he's also tapped into the electorate out there looking for a winner, is looking for someone like this. the question for donald trump is what is his evolution as a candidate? we're seeing it already. we're seeing it in the tax plan earlier this week. we're seeing him is a i'll be more a kinder and gentler -- we'll see about that. he wasn't necessarily last night

at his town hall in new hampshire but i think we're seeing the evolution of donald trump, we'll see how he grows as a candidate. but he has leveled out in the polls, there's no question. that's from july to now. every other poll is showing since the debate that he has. still at 23%, that can win a republican primary that is so divided with so much people. >> okay. now, let's get to the graphic in terms of numbers with fund raising. the numbers came out and they're interesting. in the second quarter, hillary clinton raised that astronomical amount, $47.5 million. third quarter, $28 million. sanders went from $15 million to $25 million. ben carson also had an incredible ride from 10 million to 20 million. what are you seeing, errol? >> they're all making history in different ways. clinton has done better than any other candidate in the history of politics in the third quarter of the nonpresidential year.

she's doing well. sanders is doing extraordinarily well for somebody who apparently wasn't supposed to have a chance. he's doing very well with small donors in a way we haven't seen before. and carson in his own way making history. he's a space back to the extent that historians are going to write about, politicalscientist s are going to study? >> like how? >> you see he has an event there are no fliers. >> and his facebook page for people to agree with what he said. they do it on moment-by-moment basis. >> and they're sort of moving things in a particular direction. sanders in particular, by discuss avowing pac money by taking small donations. he's really doing something that we haven't seen. he's outpacing where obama was in 2008. >> jeff, let's go to the latest political tactic that we'll see in place, specifically with hillary clinton, you have a man

who could take over for john boehner, somewhat applauding the benghazi situation for taking his numbers down. what do you see with the future with that commission? >> chris, this is interesting, kevin mccarthy who everyone believes is the speaker in waiting here. he said what everyone suspects that this benghazi committee is that is hosting that on the hill for hillary clinton. he said that is responsible for bringing her numbers down over the summer. the reality is, this committee, a lot of people on it, a lot of members on it, are furious at their own members, they believe mccarthy has tainted the whole process now. he's made it look political. a lot of these numbers have tried to do the investigation, doing all the witnesses. he yesterday, said it's responsible for bringing her numbers down. so it's very controversial. i don't know if this will thwart his rise to the speakership.

but i have never seen so many republicans telling him to renounce these comments, reject these comments. >> let's hear the comments, jeff, so we'll know what they're talking about. let's hear what mccarthy said. >> everybody thought hillary clinton was unbeatable, right? we put together a benghazi special committee. a select committee. what are her numbers today? her numbers are dropping. why? because she's untrustable. but no one would have known anything would have happened. >> ai agree -- >> okay, so, errol, is there any other way to interpret what he said, then that was a political move that proved defective? >> no, who goes to the news, it's like a bar over drinks when the cameras aren't following. unfortunately, if he wants to be speaker of the house, speaker of the house is an enormous

position. you're second in line to become the president of the united states. you're supposed to be somebody who is thinking about more than just being a political partisan attack dog. it's possible he'll survive this. he's sort of in transition from one job to the next. but there can't be any more statements like that as speaker, unless you want to see a really gridlock, divisive situation in washington. >> i think what we'll hear him is a today, i was saying what we had come out already through objective ferreting of the facts, not that she can't be trusted. >> errol, thanks so much. and the debate hosted by cnn and facebook is just days away. be sure to watch on tuesday, october 13th, 9:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. the vatican is confirming that pope francis did indeed meet with kentucky clerk kim davis during his visit to washington. church officials, however, will

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and generous to spend time with kim davis and her husband joe. last thursday afternoon at the vatican embassy in washington, d.c., he did hug her as kim davis said. he did encourage her for standing. he said that his -- his words were stay strong. >> people had questioned kim

davis' council as to whether or not a meeting ever happened. that was silly. yes, a private meeting between pope francis and kim davis who refused to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples did happen. some is a, great, others is a what! father beck, religious commentator. in rome, delia gallagher, correspondent. first question, delia, did the vatican try to hide this meeting, and if so, why? >> reporter: chris, i don't think it's a question of hiding it. i think they don't want to draw undue attention and make a banner case out of kim davis and what they see as an internal u.s. question. but i do think they want to draw broad attention and support to the issue that she represents. look, the upset over this meeting is because kim davis is a government employee. people think that she should just do her job and what heshe' opposing, gay marriage.

and the pope said it should be a right protected by the law. he said that a few days on the plane returning from the united states. and the pope is against gay marriage. because he's pro environment, because he prowelcoming immigrants that he therefore embraces all legal causes that we understand in the united states but of course, he's against abortion and gay marriage. in part, the pope said he didn't want to talk so much about abortion and gay marriage and he said the infamous, who am i to judge? i don't judge you personally, but i am the head of a church that doesn't judge not the person but the being about right and wrong. >> right. >> reporter: i think they want to give brought supported without making a case out of it. >> they did exactly the opposite. they met with kim davis and now he's tacketly giving support, that an elected official who takes an oath to uphold the law

does not have to do that if he or she feels they're against the faith. >> not true. he supports conscientious objection. we have is a along history of conscientious objection in the catholic church. people get jailed for it. pope francis did not opine on that. he did not opine on anything. we don't know how clued in or not clued in on who kim davis is. he gave her a rosie, apostolic christian a rosary, not too swift, i would is a. as to how clued in pope francis in, kim davis, the issues surrounding it, he meets with a lot of people. who set this up? vatican official. who is the vatican official? would they come forward. >> what about pope francis with this situation would they do that? >> somebody talking about it and maybe a photo op. we haven't seen a photo either.

she and her husband, no translator in the room, speaking only english. there's a lot of mystery around this. >> delia, is there a chance that someone in the vatican would set up the pope for a meeting that he didn't really know about, motive not necessarily the best thing? >> reporter: look, i don't think the vatican is so naive. i think they've got plenty of advisers on the ground in the u.s. who are well aware that it is a hot issue. i think what they wanted to be able to do is send a message -- and the pope sends it very blatantly on the plane. he said conscientious objection should be allowed. they don't want to get involved in the case. that is true. the pope said it himself, conscientious objection should be allowed for government officials. what more information do we need? >> we know he was meeting with kim davis, and if so, why. delia gallagher, thank you very

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good to have you back on "new day." jeb bush was the 2016 republican candidate to beat until donald trump stole his thunder. but there's another reason why bush is struggling now. marco rubio, a friend who has

become a political foe. can jeb bush turn it around? cnn's chief political correspondent dana bash joins us live from new hampshire you had a sitdown with bush. interesting i'm sure. >> reporter: very interesting, mccale lkaye la. he did a town hall, he's the outsider that voters on the republican side are looking for. listen to our conversation. you entered this race as a front-runner. and in just three months, you've more than 50% of your support. you went from double digits to dingle digits. what do you think changed? >> well first of all, i never considered myself a front-runner. i knew i had to overcome perceptions related to people who don't know me. if you're in new hampshire with the television on, hopefully, you're seeing an ad that we put

out, as well, talking about my record. so as i get to talk about how i cut taxes, reduce the size of government. created the most ambitious school choice programs in the country. claimed the whole system upside down as a disrupter, i can tell that story and lay out my plans for what i'll do in washington. and over time, i think that's what people will decide, they're going to decide who they want to nominate. who can take it to the democrats in the general election. and who can do the job. i mean, ultimately, this is not about the -- it's not an entertainment. we're not auditioni ining for aw here, we're running for president of the united states. >> reporter: you talk about the fact this is a marathon, this isn't a sprint. >> i've changed it now, it's a triathlon. >> reporter: it's a triathlon,

i'm not which part we're at now. >> swimming. >> reporter: slow and steady wins the race. one of your significant donors told me to keep investing in a company and as a shareholder we're fought seeing any sale. >> who is that person? >> reporter: i don't want to is a. >> he doesn't either. i'm convinced on the republican nomination, i'm going to do it in a way that will actually make it possible to win the general election as well. i am who aii am. i think people want authenticity. they want somebody with leader sk skills. >> reporter: what do you think it's a feeling. intrepidation? >> this is the way campaigns work. i said in an interview here, about seeing john mccain the

year before he won the nomination in 2007. he was alone in the atlanta airport, holding a bag over his shoulder that he could not raise his had arm up because of being tortured in a p.o.w. camp by himself. and he won the nomination. he did it because he's a good man. people knew that he could lead. every time, that's what new hampshire do, they decide who the president should be. >> reporter: let's talk about one your friends, marco rubio. >> yeah. >> reporter: he's also taking a slow and steady approach. not unlike yours. some republicans i talked to he would be a better alternative for republicans against a hillary clinton or a democrat, people looking as a fresh face, a new name, a new generation, might go to him. talking to voters out there, why should they use jeb bush and not marco rubio? >> because i'm a proven leader. i disrupted the leader in

tallahassee. we moved the needle. led the nation in job growth. reduced the government. and we won. and i can be a disrupter in washington, d.c. look, we've had a president who came in and said the same kind of thing, new and improved, open to change. and he didn't have the leadership skills to fix things. in fact, he's been the greatest, most divisive president in modern history. we need somebody to fix history. i believe i have those skills. >> so that was pretty harsh, comparing his former protege to barack obama, that's about as bad as it gets when you're a republican and you want to make a point. while he was spoking at that town hall i mentioned, mika'cha, last night, donald trump was just down the road. he was giving a speech and making the point that the relationship between rubio and jeb bush is not -- they're not

really friends. it's political bull rhymes with -- after that, we had time to be with jeb bush again. i asked about jeb bush's comments. this is how it unfolded. >> i will not answer that question until i hear exactly what he said and the terminology he used. >> you can read it. >> okay. okay. >> i'm not going to answer it until you -- >> political -- >> you have to issay it. >> political [ bleep ] -- >> between you and marco rubio, that it's not a real friendship. you really hate each other. >> well, first of all, i'm pretty sure marco can put his big boy pants on. i know i can. and i don't -- we're friends. i can take criticism. he can as well.

donald seems to have a harder time taking criticism. and he probably needs to put on his big boy pants, too. he's running for president of the united states. he's great at giving it out. but we're close friends and i admire him greatly. and it's a little awkward, as i've always said that he's running for the same spot as i am. but he has every right to do it. and i'm a friend. every debate we have, it turns out we're going to the same church to pray at noon. i love this family. i love his kids. jeannette's a great person. >> and then a conversation offline for you and i, but with that a little bit more, you hear him talk about marco rubio as a friend, protege. marco rubio saw jeb bush as a

friend. why is he starting to go after rubio now? >> it's simple, the campaign sees rubio as a threat. all you have to do is look at the polls. because the bush world understands rubio, who he is, what kind of candidate he can become. they, i've been told, are worried at him from the beginning. that's the political and then the personal side. there were a lot of hard feelings when jeb bush made it clear he was going to run for president. and rubio didn't step back and wait his terms. those are the terms i've heard from the bush campaign. so it's political and also personal. >> and complicated to is a the least. dana bash, thanks so much. we should point out for almost two months now, we've invited senator rubio to visit us here on "new day." those have been declined. 80 million people up and down the east coast on high alert this morning. >> parts of virginia bracing for

joaquin. >> if it comes, it comes, if it don't, it don't. it's started isis, but isis wasn't near the strikes? >> who are near the opposition, our friends? >> this is not the time of behavior we should expect. >> there's going to be a confrontation between united states and russia over who controls that airspace. >> donald trump attacked this week -- >> i can't hear who his friends about other thing. >> putin doesn't respect our president, it's a real problem. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alice son camarota and michaela pereira. a beautiful sunrise. welcome back to "new day." hurricane joaquin gaining strength and posing a threat to the east coast. a category 3 hurricane, packing 120-mile-per-hour winds as it approaches the bahamas. >> the problem is where the winds are going, millions up and

down the east coast on high alert. flooding in much of the path of the hurricane. will the storm make landfall in the u.s.? will it go out to sea? it's very tough to know. chad myers -- it's so tough, chad, i can't even is a it. i also see victor out there. what's the latest. >> will it hit the u.s., will it go out to sea? the answer is yes. it will do one of those two. yesterday, i think direct impact on the u.s. was a higher likelihood than today. a lot of the computers saying probably hanging in the water longer. what it will do, we know this is going to hang in the bahamas for the next 48 hours. with winds of 140 miles per hour. this is a devastating hurricane for parts of the bahamas or even the northern parts of the tuesday and caicos. after that, it gets grabbed by a jet stream and starts to shear apart. that's still significant, the way sandy was in the south.

still right foundation the computer models are shifting, farther and farther from the east, away from land even as we speak, the new modeling coming in right now. yesterday, all the models were turning right into north carolina. it's a sure thing that the models said, yes, it has to happen. today, they're changing their mind and getting on the side of the european model that we talked about yesterday was going to stay in the atlantic. one way or the other, north carolina, south carolina, virginia and on up will get between 5 and 10 inches of rain. even without a direct landfall. with a land ffall, 15 inches of rain and downed trees. there will be significant flooding through the carolinas, virginia and the east coast, chris. >> chad, thank you very much. you let us know what we need to know. much of the east coast is soaking ahead of this hurricane. virginia's governor declaring a

state of emergency, trying to get more resources to prepare for what they have. victor blackwell is live in virginia beach dealing with the situation right now. it's already a problem, yes? >> reporter: yes, certainly a problem. the winds are here. let's be clear, these are not the winds from joaquin, but have been here for several days now. power outages in much of the state. let's take you up to north, massachusetts, where the same story there, a woman had to be rescued from her car as roads were flooded there as well. rainfall records set in boston and worcester as well. portland, maine, as well where a day care center of was destroyed. and people had to abandon their vehicles. water got waist deep and had to wade through it to get to safety. whether or not this storm strengthens or weakens as it comes up the coast, discussion about categories, one, two or

three, refers only to the wind. this area is already waterlogged all along the mid-atlantic an east coast. even if a tropical storm comes had here in parts they are in for a world of trouble and governor mccauliffe here is telling people to prepare. they're packing sandbags here, not only here, but other states in the mid-atlantic, trying to prepare for what comes. even if joaquin heads west, they still have a rough time on their hands. >> they certainly do, victor. thanks very much. tensions are escalating between the u.s. and russia, officials in moscow claim their air strikes in syria are targeting isis positions but the white house is questioning that claim. and that has president obama and his middle east strategy coming under fire. let's bring in cnn's senior correspondent jim acosta. >> the u.s. and russia plans to continue talks with the military plans on syria after both

countries launched air strikes in the war-torn country in the last 24 hours. secretary of state john kerry said the so-called deconfliction conference, a bit of washington speak there, is aimed at avoiding any access. the obama administration suspects as you said, moscow is really aiming for syrian remembers fighting against the kremlin-backed bashar al assad. now, the white house is under fire from critics from both parties who says the president's struggles on taking on isis have all but rolled out the welcome mat for vladimir putin in syria. here's what white house secretary josh ernests had to is a about that. >> this is the inevitable consequence of hollow words, red lines crossed. tarnished influence, beating from behind and a total lack of american leadership. >> russia will not succeed in opposing a military on syria.

even more than the united states was success in imposing that on iraq years ago. >> reporter: and they're saying they're just pouring gasoline on the fire in syria. and the fear is, the russian air strikes could prompt more to join us with isis and make the terror group even strong. they're not telling the white house to stop what they're doing. alison, that means the president has no choice but to see how the president's plan plays out. >> jim, thanks for that. on the campaign trail, republican front-runner donald trump flashing jeb bush. he said if he's president, they'll be sent back, and trump also addressing the russian strikes in syria. take a listen. >> big international news, russia striking giving the u.s. an hour's notice. >> sure. well, they don't respect the u.s. >> number one, they don't

respect our president and they really don't respect us anymore. that's why they're doing this. at the same time, they want to hit isis, that's okay with me. i'm not going to be saying we have to do it all. we're like the policemen of the world. i am i very strong person when it comes to the military. you and i had this conversation before. i think it will be my big sleeper. as a sleeper subject for me. i think one of my strengths is the military. i'm very strong on the military. we're going to build a tremendous military. nobody is going to mess with us. but at the same time, we have to be respected and frankly, we're not being respected. nevertheless, i love the fact that isis is being hit by russia. >> according to u.s. officials, the areas that are being hit are not isis strongholds, and in areas that are propping up assad? >> i'm hearing that. i'm hearing they're hitting both. i'm hearing that. and then you say to yourself, assad, bad guy, hills hundreds

of thousands of people, but you wonder what's going to happen with the other people? we give billions of dollars in wednesday and they turn against us. we have no control. so we don't know the other people that we're supposed to be backing. we don't even know who we're bracking. russia and iran. of course, we have made iran strong giving them $150 billion. one of the dumbest deals i've ever seen. russia and iran are backing assad. at the same time, my primary theory is getting rid of isis because isis really does stand for evil. >> how would you handle putin? >> there's no respect. it's a question of respect. deals, i do deals. that's what i do. i do really good at deals. the other side has to respect you. putin doesn't respect our president. he probably doesn't respect our country too much because he's gone through so many years of obama but he doesn't respect our president. that's a real problem. >> listen, you've got russia and u.s. flying in the same place. >> right. >> one bad move, as you is a,

that's a huge problem. don't we need some rules? >> a couple of bad moves, you have world war iii over syria, right? i don't think so. i don't think so. look, if russia wants to go in there, it would have been nice if we went in as a unified front, to be honest with you. but if russia wants to go in there and knock the hell out of isis -- maybe with this big migration, now they're talk about bringing 200,000 people into the united states -- and i will tell you, if i win, i'm going to is a go to say it right now, i'll say it to you, those 200,000 people, the world will hear it -- are going back. we're not going to accept 200,000 people that may be isis. when you look at the migration. there are so many men. there are so many men that look strong to me. i'm pretty good at analyzing things. you is a where are the women. they look strong, and they're young. number one, why aren't they fighting for their country?

number two, what's going on? why are we accepting all of these -- 200,000. that's almost like, are they bringing -- are these people isis? we have no idea who they are. we have no idea where they come from. i'm just telling you now, they may come in through the weakness of obama, they're going out if i become president. they will not stay here. they're going back to syria. they're going back to syria. >> all right. let's talk about all of these issues with david axelrod, he's our cnn political commentator and former adviser to president obama. david, great to see you. >> good to see you. >> let's start with russia and what's happening with syria. russia launched air strikes against targets that we now know had had nothing to do with isis or isil, as you often refer to it. in fact, they hit opposition sites. those fighters who were opposed to president assad. doesn't that tell us everything that we need to know about

russia's motivation here? >> well, it certainly is reviewing, they've been as transparent on their motives in syria as they were with ukraine. clearly, they are not targeting isis based on the information they've known. they've made a complex situation even more complex, as jim mentioned in his report. the fear is that they're going to further drive people into the arms of isis. what appears to be the case, they're there simply to shore up assad. and if they have to wipe out the moderate forces in that region, they'll do that in the process. and so, it's a challenging situation. and a dangerous situation. >> is mccain right in his analysis of how we got to this point? >> look, i think the syrian problem has been a thorn in the side of the administration from the beginning. and there's a big debate about the steps that have been taken along the way, including the

decision not to go forward when the red line was drawn. but the question is always, what would you have done? what would you do? you know, donald trump in his stream of conthsciousness. and you don't know what you take out, what comes next, which is part of what we saw in iraq. so it's been a treacherous path. and i don't know what it's going to foment, what is your alternative? >> what is the u.s. response likiely to be to all of this? >> i suspect, and i'm not here for the president for whom i haven't worked for six years or

five years and the government, and they'll answer for the government. but i suspect that we're going to continue doing what we're doing, which is air strikes, end of isis. and the danger here is how you deal with the fact that the russian planes in the air as well. so, all of these calculations have to be made with real precision. or you can end up with a much wider conflict. as trump actually suggested. >> let's look at the race. the debate is going to come. it's on cnn which means all eyes should be on it, first one, most critical, got to watch it. joe biden won't be in it. do you think he's going to enter the race? or this a nod to the obvious? >> i don't think if i were biden -- even if i were going to get in the race i would be in that debate on october 13th because it takes a lot of work to prepare for a debate. he hasn't been a candidate. he hasn't been in the mix. he isn't up to game speed at

this moment. so i would advise him not to be in the debate anyway. i do think with each passing day, it becomes more difficult for him to get in the race, just because time has passed. money is committed. troops are committed. and it becomes a much more complex challenge for him to really compete head to head, in this contest. so, you know, i think joe biden is a very honest guy. i think he's been leveling with us from the beginning which is he'd like to do it, but he doesn't know if he has the emotional reserves to it. if his family has the emotional reserves to do it given what they've faced in the last months and the loss they've suffered. i think that's what's going on. i think he'll either in relatively soon, or time will take care of that question and it will decide itself. >> and jeff zeleny has reported that biden has pushed the decision date back to end of the

october. let's talk about that money that is raised. there are new numbers out and shows how much candidates have raised in the fourth quarter. let's look at hillary clinton's compared to sanders. she brought in $28 million. he brought in $25 million. what's interesting, comparing them to the second quarter, her numbers having gone down, his having shot up. what do you see, david? >> well, i think this is a stunning number, i think what we now need to see what their cash on hand is. i suspect bernie sanders will have almost as much money in the bank as she does, when the accounting is disclosed. and that's big, because it means that he can compete head to head, not just in iowa and new hampshire, but he can compete in the subsequent states including march 1st when you have a super tuesday where many states are being contested. and you'll need resources to compete. the other thing is the quality of these, or the nature of these contributions.

hillary clinton has raised it largely with large contributions. she's had many events over the summer to try to get to that number. maxed out contributors, $2700. bernie sanders is doing his almost entirely with small contributions. he's had 1 million donations and hundreds of thousands of contributors who are likely to contribute again in the future. the history shows that his numbers will increase over time, not decrease. and he's going to have the resources to compete for a good long time in the race. >> let's talk about something that the man likely to be the next speaker of the house, kevin mccarthy said on fox news that many believe is revealing about the true nature of the benghazi investigation. listen to this. >> everybody thought that hillary clinton was unbeatable, right? we put together a benghazi special committee. a select committee. what are her numbers today?

her numbers are dropping. why? because she's untrustable. but no one would have known any of that happened. >> okay. you heard him. he says everybody thought she was unbeatable, then he put together a benghazi committee. >> well, i don't think it's a surprise to anyone that there was some political motivation for that committee. i don't think if she were not running for president of the united states there would have been his level of ferocity on the part of the house in pursuing the benghazi story. but what's shocking is the guy that is going to be speaker of the house would acknowledge that. i'm sure there are members of the caucus scratching their head when they read that story because there are some things that you shouldn't is a. it speaks to the fact that kevin mccarthy has made a mediocre rise in the house. he's a good schmoozer, he's good with internal politics in the house. now, he's going to be the face

of the republican party in many ways. and discretion is part of what is called for there. and this is going to be a cause for concern. i don't think it's going to stop him from becoming speaker. but it may be an impediment in being an effective speaker. he gave john boehner a "b" minus but john boehner would not have made that mistake. >> there's a lot of pushback from republicans. but the other would were in a statement, he should step off. mr. axelrod, if i may indulge, will you please stick around? we have more to talk about jeb bush later on in the show. we'll come back to you, okay. breaking news overnight, the afghan government says its forces have retain control of the city of kunduz from the taliban, but they are still fighting pockets of insurgents hiding out in residual areas. us forces are providing support.

those air strikes from a taliban spokesman via twitter that afghan forces have been pushed back again. a south carolina police officer shot and killed in a shopping mall. the officer was greg gore leah. he was responding to a call. he and 34-year-old jarvis hall. they chased hip into the mall, during the struggle, the officer was shut and killed. the 32-year-old was survived by a wife and newborn son. the tense relationship between u.s. and russia further put to the test with russian air strikes in syria. we'll discuss all of this with the secretary. air force next. hold the phone. because at&t and directv are now one! which means you can access your dvr at the dmv.

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the president said for years, for years, that assad must go. but he has done nothing that has brought us any closer to achieving that outcome. my friends, it's not that we have done nothing, but what it is, we have not done anything that would reverse the trend. >> senator john mccain urging the obama administration to take action against syrian president bashar al assad. this, as russia launches air strikes in syria without u.s. coordination. so let's bring in the secretary of the u.s. air force deborah lee james. madam secretary, great to have you here in the studio with us. >> thank you, alisyn. >> we've gotten board that

russia has hit targets, none of them isis, they're all opposition targets. how will the u.s. military and in particular the air force respond to this. >> well, the emergence of russia in syria is one that we're tracking very closely. we have long said yanyone who i willing to join in the coalition against isil is welcome to do so. as secretary of the air force, the number one thing that returns me at the moment, we need to have military to military coordination in view of this development so we deconflict ourselves in the sky. the worst thing of all if there would be an accident between our forces and russian forces in the sky. >> that would be explosive. will you begin coordinating that? >> our secretary of defense has directed that we begin such

coordination. there will be military to military discussions very shortly in order to get this ironed out. >> do you think president obama has articulated well enough the u.s. strategy for syria? >> i think the president has done a good job of articulating the strategy. it's a very difficult situation. it's a very fluid situation in the middle east. but we are ultimately out there to degrade and ultimately destroy isil. we're doing the job of degrading right now. and of course, our u.s. air force as part of that large coalition is very much in the lead. >> you are -- you are doing it. it's basically degrade and destroy strategy is just with air strikes. >> air strikes are the leading edge, i'll say, but there also needs to be a political solution ultimately. and there needs to be forces on the ground. iraqi army, the peshmerga, the free syrians that need to contribute equally to destroy part of this mission. >> i want to talk about the equipment that the u.s. air force is using.

i've read that half of the combat air forces are not sufficiently ready for a high-end fight against an opponent. that's troubling. what does that mean? >> it is troubling. and a high-end fight means the type of fight that the enemy on the ground can shoot you down and we may not have control of the skies. now, obviously, those that we put forward in iraq and syria are the readiest of the forces. i am confident in their training. but what we need to do is bring the rest of the forces up to that level. and that will cost a lot of money. it costs money and time to put our forces through the appropriate training so they can bra against the high-end threats. >> you recently submitted a recommendation to the secretary of defense to open up air force combat jobs to women. but you know girls can't fight? >> well, alisyn, let me tell you, i think our women in the air force are extremely capable,

and with the proper training and cooperation, they can do anything as far as i'm concerned. >> how did your recommendation go over since so many people do hold that opinion? >> if i can back up for just a second, we only have six jobs at the air force that are closed at the moment for women. what we've been working on in the last year and a half is putting in gender-neutral operational standards. standards to do the job, if you're a man or woman, the standards will be high because it's a physically demanding job and they'll be directly relevant to the job at hand. and i'm of the opinion, once we have those in place, we ought to look at opening those jobs for anyone who is capable and qualified and let them compete. so i have made a recommendation to the secretary of defense. now that we've studied this, put in place standards. i'll reserve that recommendation between me and the secretary for now. but he will be making the decision for the entirety of the

military later on this year. >> and what about women in ranger school? there were discussion that the standards have to be softened or changed. what do you think about that? >> first of all, we have not softened standards in the air force. i've read about this in the army, of course, that's not my portfolio, i believe the leadership of the army when they is a that's flat out not true. i believe those women earned those ranger tabs. >> secretary lee, great to have you here. >> thank you. all right, alisyn, the man who would be house speaker lashing out at hillary clinton as a candidate fires back. a closer look at the political feud. benghazi at the center, just ahead. n't work on wrinkles. neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair has the fastest retinol formula... to work on fine lines and even deep wrinkles in just one week. neutrogena®. the internet of things.

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everybody thought hillary clinton was unbeatable, right? but we put together a benghazi special committee. a select committee. what are her numbers today? her numbers are dropping. why? because she's untrustable. but no one would have known any of that had had had happened had

we not -- >> congressman kevin mccarthy and sean hannity there. mccarthy could become the next house speaker suggesting that the benghazi committee lowered hillary clinton's poll numbers. did he just give an inside look into why that committee was formed in the first place? you no who thinks the answer is yes to that? hillary clinton. here's her response. >> when i hear a statement like that which demonstrates unequivocally, that this was always meant to be a partisan political exercise, i feel like it does a great disservice and dishonors, not just the memory of the four that we lost, but in everybody who has served our country. >> hillary clinton taking the high ground there. the response i believe from the

mccarthy team will be, no, no, not the formation of the committee. it was what the committee revealed that wound up lowering her numbers, do you accept that justification? >> absolutely not. i heard somebody yesterday describe this as toto pulling back the fake curtain on the wizard of oz. we all knew this was, yes, the committee investigating this with nobody having found there was wrongdoing, so this committee is formed. and it has now been the longest special investigative committee in the history of the united states. i think taxpayers should be really ticked off that they've spent $4.5 million. and spent more time than they did looking at pearl harbor than they did looking at watergate. and we know the purpose of it. and kevin mccarthy revealed what everybody knows. and i would encourage you to talk to the democrats who are on that committee who have known it all along as well.

this was a political sham. this was out to get hillary clinton because they don't want just been revealed.and now it's >> what about the allegations that we don't know what exactly went wrong in benghazi from an accountability standpoint? >> but how many committees do we have to have that show this? the special committee that was a bipartisan group looking at this who said very clearly there was nothing nefarious happening there. sometimes, just can't get there in time. she has made -- whatever, there were technical fixes that need to be made. she's taken responsibility. she took action. she appointed a group to fix that. john kerry has taken that on. this has been reviewed, reviewed, reviewed. talk about a waste of government resources. and talk about an insult to the people who were actually killed in that terrible tragedy, because they have been used politically. and that's what kevin mccarthy revealed. >> what about the e-mails that

just were released by the state department, about 3, 850 documents mostly from 2010, 2011. you got the chief staff cheryl mills opening addressing the concern of private e-mails and what could have. you have 250 documents upgraded to status. does this show any responsibility on part of the clinton team? >> she has taken responsibility for that. she said it was not a wise move to have a private server. however, i must say that the 200 e-mails that are retroactively classified -- just to be clear, for your viewers, there was a separate system that was used to view classified information. you cannot physically send it on a private e-mail. so totally separate. but i would encourage people to take a look at these e-mails because they really do give an interesting view of what goes on

inside of government. and that e-mail that you referred to, by cheryl mills which she expressed some concern, and indeed coming from samantha powers, that the antiquated department of state e-mails were really not the belt. because we needed to upgrade the system. now, we know that the federal government's system has been hacked and continues to be hacked, multiple, multiple times. there's been no evidence of a successful hack on equipment servers. so, you know, hopefully, that continues, obviously. but the bottom line is, there was no transmission of classified information at the time. >> no, let's put up the money also. hillary put up $28 million on the last reporting period. bernie put up $25 million. of course, the spin is bernie doing better than hillary because the rate of increase of his money is such more dramatic. how do you see it? >> well, she's raised $75 million in the primary race.

she's on track to raise 100. she has raised more than any candidate in the history of the united states in this particular quarter. and if you put actually bernie sanders money and hillary clinton's money together, they outraised the entire republican field. so there's a lot of excitement on the democratic side. so she raised more money. she's on track to meet her goal. i think she's really happy about how things have turned out in the third quarter. >> governor granholm, appreciate you being on "new day" to clear up the record. we'll be back with more questions i'm sure. so, mark the calendars, the first democratic debate is going to be hosted by us and facebook. and it's going to be on tuesday, october 13th. 9:00 p.m. eastern. level the battles begin. jeb bush tweeted that he was flattered by similarities between donald trump's tax plan and his own. where does trump's plan fall short? we're going to pose that question to jeb bush.

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donald trump credit for releasing a tax plan he case, though, that his plan is better. he sat down with cnn to talk about it as well as the future of the republican party. cnn's chief political correspondent dana bash is the one who sat down with jeb bush. she joins us live from new hampshire with more on that one-on-one conversation she had. >> well, michaela, there's so much talk about personality in this race. this week, we actually had substance and policy to chew on. donald trump introduced his tax plan. of course, jeb bush had released his own a few weeks ago. so i asked about the comparisons and similarities. donald trump released a tax plan this week. you tweeted out that it looked familiar to you, because you thought that there were some similarities. but you've also said that he's not a real conservative, that he's almost a democrat in

disguise. so how does he have those characteristics if not a real republican but have similarities? >> well, he's had two tax increases. literally 14.5% on tax on asset that's would have devastated the economy. would have been a tax increase in the tens of trillions of dollars. and now he's come up with a proposal that will create, according to the tax foundation, on a static basis, $10 trillion deficits over ten years. now, there will be some dynamic effect on it. because that hole won't be resolved. it's not as serious of a plan as it should be. but the fact that he's actually proposing something is encouraging. every time he talks about policy, he's not insulting somebody. that's a good sign for the republican primary. >> does this convince you more that maybe he's serious about being a republican, the fact that he proposes something that is not similar to what you propose? >> it's dramatic in the fact

that our plan, simplifying the code and reducing rates, and simplifies it for personal rates and not blowing a gigantic hole in the deficit is a much better plan for high sustained economic growth. but, look, we're going to have a chance to focus on this. i can't wait to hear, see what his plans are on all of other things but to now it's been bluster. >> you're a very good friend of john boehner. >> yes. >> obviously, he's leaving. talk to republicans who is a it's a bad omen for jeb bush. not just because you are good friends, but you're perceived as kind of out of touch with today's grassroots. how do you counter that? >> so john boehner passed through his body repeal of obamacare. reform of the fda. passed a budget that limited spending. in fact, spending has been limited under his leadership. and it's smaller today than it was four or five years ago, as

it relates to the post stimulus era. >> why isn't that enough? >> because you have a small number of members of the republican caucus that want more. and they're willing to disrupt the whole process. to be able to get what they want. but they're not going to get what they want. the irony of this is, the next leader's going to have the exact same problem. >> but are you keconcerned that small portion of the caucus in the house is going to be looked at by republican voters who might be looking at it the other way? >> well, if you look at it from that perspective, then 90% of the republican caucus who wants conservative principles put into law is better than the 10%. >> dana joins now, with david

axelro axelrod. i know you had had a chance to listen in on that. what are your thoughts? >> well, that's his bet. hisby is the governing conservative bloc in the republican party is larger than the anti-government right bloc that trump is currently leading and some other candidates are thriving on. and when the field narrows down, someone is going to come up that lane of the center right establishment, governing conservative republicans. and he'll be the survivor. he has what i call the mr. magoo strategy. he's going to drive through the chaos and arrive through the other side. he has resources. he has resources. and the fact is that this is a gauntlet. it is a long, long test. and your ability to withstand that test over a long period of time is ultimately what determines who survives the race. >> now, dana, he kept talking about the fact he doesn't see it

as a marathon, he sees it as a triathlon, you mentioned it sob in the swimming phase of this. he does feel confident that he can overcome the vocal minority within his party. he seems that think that he can blow right past that. >> well, because, traditionally, in the republican party, that's how it works. there's a lot of noise. there's a lot of anger. a lot of power. given to some of the more conservative parts of the republican electorate. particularly in the first caucus state of iowa. and maybe less so where i am here in new hampshire but then going down to south carolina, which is the first of the south primary contest. but then usually what happens, the kind of establishment candidate ends up winning the day. the question is, is this year going to be the year that changes that? >> yes. >> jeb bush is clearly sure that that's not the case. but you have donald trump in the

race. never mind him. you have ted cruz and others who have been riding that anger wave. which is a lot bigger and stronger than we've seen it in the past. >> david, lot night at midnight when we were all asleep. at least i hope we were, was the end of the fund raising quarter. do you think the bush people are able to match the strong numbers that they saw the last time around? >> i think the summer is a very hard time to raise money, so i doubt it. look, i think the bigger -- i mean, i think he'll have resources. and that's the big yequestion. if the assistant republicans supporting him walk away, then he's got a problem. but his bigger problem is one of temperament. he's a thoughtful guy. but he has a little bit of the problem that his father had. we all remember -- or those of us who are old enough to remember in '87, the news we covered said the wimp factor about george h.w. bush. even though had about a fighter

pilot at 18 years old. jeb bush has some of the same temperament. he's not bombastic. he doesn't feed the beast. at a very angry time in the republican party the question is whether or not he has enough oomph. and donald trump has explored that. whether thoughtful wins the day. >> i'm flattered that you think i'm not old enough to remember that but i do remember. dana bash, david axaxelrod, thas for joining. how about levitty, jimmy fallon and stephen colbert taking jabs at the donald. still a huge source of laughs. we'll have the best of late night for you. (man) hmm. what do you think?

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80 million people up and down the east coast on high alert this morning. forecast models are not agreeing right now. >> think ahead, have a plan. >> hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst. >> russia launching air strikes in syria. >> the russians are not attacking isis. >> this approach is tantamount to pouring gas lean on the fire. >> when russia said it was helping assad. it really meant helping assad. >> i have one of the great scalpels in history. it's different from ben carson's. he's an excellent doctor. i have a scalpel for business. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo, allsyn camerota and michaela pereira. >> good morning this is thursday, october 1st. 8:00 in the east. and the joaquin is barrelling

now. sustained winds up to 120 miles an hour. it is closing in on the bahamas for sure. >> 80 million along the east coast should feel an impact. where is joaquin heading? cnn has complete coverage beginning with the chad meyers at the cnn center. what do the models say now? >> it appears now that the models are taking it farther off shore. agreeing with yesterday's european model that kept it completely off shore. but the storm right now is over the bahamas. and it is going to stay there 24-48 hours before it really even begins its turn to the north. is it northwest or northeast? models still disagree. but it is going to turn. so 140 miles per hour wind potential here in the bahamas for 24 hours will do significant damage to that island nation there. even the northern turks and caicos. look at what this model, the hurricane has actually done. this is why the model can't figure out what it's doing. it's wiggled around back and

forth, back and forth. no real significant straight line direction. finally later on today it will get something. it will begin to turn to the right and the north. notice the new model, this is the new hurricane center forecast from 5:00 a.m. has it here now just about atlantic city. but it could be all the way from west virginia to almost halfway to bermd. and now it looks like more of the models are taking it closer and closer to bermuda. with land fall or not guys this is going to be a glflood maker. five to ten inches of rainfall from the west virginia to the carolinas. even if it misses, there is so much moisture still coming in. it feels like -- you walk outside here in atlanta it feels like you are walking outside in nassau. you are in the caribbean somewhere. it's just that thick. and the moisture is going to fall out of the sky as rain. and victor blackwell is feeling

the rain right now in virginia beach. and it is going to rain for days. >> he sure is, chad. we'll check in with him because much of the east coast on high high alert. virginia's governor declaring a state of emergency as the federal government prepares this morning. let's go to victor black life at virginia beach. what is it like where you are zblz a lull in the rain. but there is rain all around us. up into the mid atlantic region, massachusetts and maine as well. as everyone looked ahead to the weekend and what joaquin could bring if it makes the turn to the coast. this morning, the east coast drenched and on high alert. coastal states from virginia to maine soaked by rain ahead of hurricane joaquin's expected

land fall. virginia already sopping in torrent of down pours caused by moisture rich air from the gulf of mexico. the governor calling a the state of emergency. heavy rainfall causing widespread flooding across the coast dropping more than 10 inches of rain in some states. parts of maryland impab passable. >> it looked like a [ bleep ] river is what it looks like. >> in a matter of ten minutes we were completely under water with a couple inches of standing water in the hallways. >> massachusetts pounded by record-breaking rainfall. >> i think there are a lot of water-logged people walking around the city. >> this woman had to be rescued from her flooded car. and the driver of this tractor-trailer dead after it flipped on the highway. fema at the ready. president obama briefed on wednesday. joaquin already registering sustained winds of 120 miles per

hour. an ominous sign for new england, still haunted and recovering from the devastating damage left by another october hurricane, sandy, just three years ago. flood weary residents hoping for the best but preparing for the worst. >> it is what it is. can't do nothing about it. if it comes, it comes. and if it don't, it don't. >> reporter: now i just wanted to flip the camera around and show you. there is a woman who just walked out. she is in her wedding dress with a man in tuxedo. assuming it is her husband there. but just an illustration of people making the best of what's here. we know that the wind has picked up and it's been sustained here. that is causing beach erosion, that natural barrier that typically will protect property here will be gone by the time joaquin makes that turn if it comes in this direction. but as we know people are preparing for whatever comes. hopefully not as bad as it could

be if it turns into the coast. >> you need to go find if that young woman is getting married this weekend because they need to come up with an alternate plan victor and maybe even online credential and maybe marry them or something. >> you bet i'm going to ask a couple of questions. >> i know you will. the key is stay tuned, stay prepared and stay alert. we appreciate it. other news. russia confirming it launched a new round of air strikes saying it hit isis targets. the white house suspects they are really attacking the enemies of the assad, which includes rebel forces backed by the u.s. for for barbara star. >> that is the big concern. the russians announced a short time ago additional air strikes in syria. the u.s. remaining concerned that what they are really doing is striking antiregime areas so they can prop up barber al assad and not isis. the russians claim isis. they say the knew strikes against isis target, ammo dumps,

other key terrorist targets, perhaps remaining to be seen. the next step here is what will happen between the russian military and the u.s. military. we are told those talks could begin as soon as later today for both to sit down in some fashion and talk about how to make sure as pilots fly in the skies over syria, they are kept safe. you know, i think we can assume at this point, if it happens today, it is going to be a video teleconference between both military forces. because nobody is traveling to a third city. but u.s. officials are telling us they feel very confident u.s. pilots can be kept safe. that pilots in the air will know where the russians are and they can largely stay out of their way. back to you guys. >> thanks so much for all of that. also breaking overnight. the afghan government says its forces have retaken control over the city of kunduz from the taliban. though the fighting continues

from pockets of insurgents. a taliban spokesman confirmed tweet that afghan forces very pushed back. >> when we're looking a at afghanistan it raises the spectra of concern of syria will be. certainly one of the men very concerned about what's happening in syria, specifically with russia's new involvement, senator john mccain. listen to what he said. >> this is the inevitable consequence of hollow words, red lines crossed. tarnished moral influence, leading from behind and a total lack of american leadership. >> joining us now is republican senator john mccain. always good to see you here an "new day." let's talk to what we think is going on and then we'll get to why you think it is going on. do you believe that russia is targeting isis targets or not?

>> they are not. they may be targeting some, chris, but it is interesting. their initial strikes were against the individuals and the groups that have been funded and trained by our cia in a incredible flaunting of -- of any kind of cooperation or effort to conceal what their first -- putin's priority is. and that is of course to prop up barber assad. and by the way, i can absolutely confirm to you that they were strikes against our free syrian army or groups that have been armed and trained by the cia. because we have communications with people there. so now we're going to have a meeting of the military or some kind of communications that seems to be the administration ice first priority.

and so we can stand by and watch them strike those groups that are fighting against bashar assad that we are training and funding? this is a norwellian experience. >> so you are saying that you can confirm not only -- >> yes. >> not only are they targeting isis but they are hitting the same people the u.s. are training. if that is what's going on what can the u.s. do about it. >> first they can say to the russians we're going fly wherever we want to and you better stay the held out of the way. the second is we consider syrian sanctions. third we develop a strategy pretty much outlined by general david petreas before the senator arms committee a couple of weeks ago to turn the tide. the slaughter continues and now we have the russians playing a major role.

we now have them for the first time since 1973 when anwar sadat threw the russians out of egypt being a major player there. and the slaughter goes on. and the likelihood of a continuation of this is enhanced. meanwhile the secretary of state says that he would be, quote, gravely concerned if they were striking the free syrian army folks. and of course it is obvious that they are there. our secretary of defense says well this is very unprofessional. is that the way we react to a naked russian aggression? and by the way, whatever happened to all those talks up in new york when the russians in an incredible act send a general to our embassy in baghdad to tell us that the strikes are starting in one hour? what does that say about their perception of the united states of america? >> but how do you control the

russian perception? you have been an outspoken critic of putin and his motives for many years. but he is who he is. he does what he does. the question is what control do you have over it? you seem to believe that he has been fed by the american response instead of discouraged. >> i think he's been very encouraged. look at the situation from his viewpoint. first thing i would have done a lot time ago the give the ukrainian weapons with which to defend themselves, rather than let him continue to dismember. as far as iraq -- syria is concerned. as i said general petraeus, top the barrel bombing. establish a buffer zone. have a real arm and train and e kwap program there. there is a whole range of options we could exercise which would -- which we should have a long time ago. and these failures of the administration, whether it be

the red line in syria or whether it be overruling his national security advisors on training and equipping a free syrian army have led to the situation we're in today, which is unbelievable. >> the administration says it is not that simple. that these are all complex situations. they have to be very guarded against u.s. involvement because there is no national appetite for it. the crossing the red line in syria, as you will remember, that was our our interview with president obama when that first happened. they started the administration by saying we don't know what happened there. be careful about this cross the red line. and within days they wanted to bomb in syria. and they were told to slow down by many members of the congress. they say it is complicated. you never know how much you can get it you have to let people decide their own fate. not an appetite for involvement. >> listen, i am sure that there are those who have a objected to

every involvement the united states has been in. but facts are stubborn things. and that is that russia is now dominate dismembered a country for the first time this 7 years in the case of ukraine. the slaughter continues. there are now hundreds of thousands if not millions of the refugees. surrounding countries are being destabilized. such as lebanon and jordan. there is nothing but abject failure throughout. so while many of us have said we should do -- take certain steps such as i just mentioned general petraeus described before the committee. this is a failure of american leadership beginning with a total withdrawal of troops from iraq. >> do you think the u.s. should abandon efforts to work with russia and treat them as an opponent in these situations and act according that that? >> no. i think we should take actions that are in our interest in

bringing about halt to the terrible things that are happening there. and if that means conversations with vladomir putin, fine. but recognize vladimir putin for who he is and what he is. he's said many times the greatest disaster of the 20th century was the break up of the soviet union. his ambitions are to return the great russian empire. and now for the first time, instead of the near abroad, he is now asserting himself in the mideast as a major factor there. and that is certainly complicates things. meanwhile the slaughter goes on, chris. >> i understand it. we hear the human toll all the time. we see what is going on with the refugee situation. it seems to be getting worse. the question is what do you do about it? the response from the administration is it's complected. we're doing everything we can. you don't buy it. >> of course not. as i said, for years we have

been saying what needed to be done. and we've seen failure after failure of american leadership. this president believes in, quote, leading from behind. we believe in leading from in front. and again that means the residual force era. i'm telling you are going to see the same movie in afghanistan if we continue to pull everybody out of there by 2017. look at the fall of kunduz. even though it is retaken, that is remarkable success on the part of the taliban. we are failing everywhere. >> and we hear from military leaders they want to keep forces in afghanistan. they are concerned about destabilization. bu but you have to balance with the american's appetite for involvement. >> can i just say quickly. we have 38,000 troops in korea. nobody complains about that because it is peaceful. with american troop, they are a stabilizing force. we don't have to put them in harm's way. >> point taken, senator. the question is how do you move

forward balancing all the interests. we appreciate you part of the conversation. another story. a high level secret service official coming under fire for urging the agency to dig up dirt about the congressman and then leak it. cnn washington correspondent joe johnson is live with the latest. >> allsyn this is a little episode that started out the with a embarrassment of a congressional committee and it's morphed into a another embarr s embarrassment for the secret service. 45 federal employees accessed --. chaffetz once apparently applied for a job with the service but was turned down because there were better qualified applicant. the report says that one secret service official even suggested

in writing that some of this information needed to get out just to be fair. and it did get made public in news reports. cha chaffetz on cnn last night reacted. >> it is a little bit scary. secret service diving into my background as the sitting member of congress -- i it is not about me but it is about what are they doing over there? these people are entrusted with guns by the president more goodness sake. >> the inspector general's office was not able to determine who actually leaked the information. the privacy act says the government can't release such personal information about individuals without their consent. government rules also, the department of homeland security and secret service policies forbid the release of this information. just not clear whether the repercussions might be. >> what a mess. joe, thank you for that. caitlyn jenner will not face charges in connection with the deadly multicar crash in southern california. prosecutors declined to charge the 65 years.

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criticized and scrutinized by rivals and in his interview with don lemon the donald answers back. >> ben carson said this morning that your plan is a bad one. he said everyone, even the poorest americans shouldn't pay taxes. what are your thoughts. >> again ben, this is not his wheel house. jobs is not for ben. putting our country back together in terms of jobs and incentives so people work. i've created tens of thousands of jobs. that's what i do. i build these incredible places and incredible companies. i've e el employed tens of thousands. right now i have thousands working for me. ben's strength is not jobs. which worries me. because we have to make new trade deals. >> the question is you are talking about no more death a tax. >> well the death tax, a problem with the death tax -- >> let me get the question is. >> go ahead. >> summon like whou are has much money. should be able to leave your

entire fortune to your family because they say it's un-americ un-american. >> first of all it's not. i'm going to gave lot to charity. let me just explain. there have been so many families where they have a business and it is a business where there is ant lot of cash but it's a lot of assets and it's got to be run in a certain way. these families have been devastates because they have been forced to mortgage up and do all these things. but maybe almost more than it is really a double and even a triple tax. by the time you get to the death tax, it's a double tax. the tax has already been paid. they have been paying taxes over the years and the tax has already been paid. you can make the case it's been paid twice. >> people wonder is how are you going to pay for these tax cuts you propose. a host of experts say the deficit is going to skyrocket by trillions of over a decade. if your plan goes into effect. how -- >> because i have one of the great scalpels in history. now, it is different from ben

carson's scalpel, he's an excellent doctor. but i have the scalpel for business. we have costs that are outrageous. i'm going to name over the next couple of weeks. i'm putting out some of the most incredible money that was spent for things that should have cost a few dollars where they spent hundreds of thousands of dollars. the money that we are losing to theft, to incompetence, to everything is tens of billions of dollars. i'm going to be doing a lot of cutting. jeb bush loves common core. i don't. i don't think bureaucrats from washington should be running education from iowa, new hampshire, south carolina and every place else e. we're going to cut out huge sections of as an example the department of education. environmental protection. it is disgusting what they have done. they have stopped work. and even a couple of weeks ago they destroyed a river. they go and they destroyed a

river themselves. >> you talk about jeb bush. he says his plan will achieve 4% growth. the u.s. annual hasn't been 3% since 2005 -- >> -- know how to grow. we have a people that a politician is running. all talk no action. the only business jeb did was he sat on boards and they paid him a lot of money. lehman brothers crashed. jeb kwuz on the board of layman brothers. i'm a real businessman. whether people like me or don't like me. i'm a real business -- >> here this morning with their reaction to trump's now plans and so much more. jeffrey lord and anna navarro. great to have you both. let's talk about donald trump first what he said about ben carson. basically ben carson doesn't know anything about jobs. he will not be good for jobs.

if that is true, ben carsance's supporters have not gotten that memo. his fundraising numbers for the third quarter are impressive. from second quarter of 10.5 million. he download it to the third quarter, 20 million. tell us how significant that is. >> i think it's very significant. first it tells you the amount of money that is going to be flowing into the 2016 cycle. the numbers that we've been hearing about just between last night and today are amazing. bernie sanders got $26 million. hillary clinton got 28 million dollars. carson got $20 plus million. so we're going to see an enormous amount of money. and bernie sanders and carson are interesting. because they are small donors that are, you know, being able to do it through the internet. it is not the way that a hillary clinton is doing it with the 2700 big donors. it is very, very impressive allsyn. and it tells you that he's got

some staying power. >> jeffrey, people are pushing donald trump to change. i guess the best reason to do that would be not to impress the media or just a reflection of what happens around us but the baked in negative number that he has. but what's your take? should the donald stick with what got him here? or should he become more like what you see around him. >> the minute you start to veer away from who you are the minute your going to have a problem. in the reagan white house we used to say late reagan be reagan. and here let trump be trump. his strength is being himself. that is what people like. >> but a lot of people don't like him. within his own party he's got a big negative overall he's got the biggest negative. >> he's turned around his unfavorables in the past and i'm sure he will again. we're in the is second stage of this. it is a little earlier than usual. i will say that. but we're only about the second

stage of this campaign here of the primary season. so we have a long way to go here. he has a long way to two. and he's doing quite well. >> anna, let's talk about jeb bush it. sounds as that from what jeb is saying on the campaign trail that between donald trump's tax plan, between marco rubio's campaign he's starting to feel as though everyone is copying him. listen to this. >> i relied on people like marco rubio and many others to follow my leadership. and we -- we moved the needle. we've had a president who came in and said the same kind of thing. new and improved, hope and change. and he didn't have the leader shich skills to fix things. in fact he's been the greatest most divisive president in modern history. we need a president to fix things and i believe i have those skills. >> jeb bush's found raisers we've heard a getting a little skiddish about the state of the campaign.

what do you think is going on? >> allsyn, i am one of jeb's fundraisers. i'm one of the donors, i'm one of the funders. you see this face? this is my panicked face. effective campaigns don't get panicked. they don't get nervous. they recalibrate. the terrain in this cycle is very different than what anybody expected frankly. and as far as the back and forth regarding marco what jeb said is true. jeb was governor when marco was a newly elected green state legislator from west miami florida. just a couple of miles down from where i live. and jeb was a very active governor who brought in a lot of changes. on a lot of policy issues. and he had a group of lem legislators who were supportive and worked with him. marco was part of that group. >> anna ice face on panic is

beautiful and obviously placid. so if she's not worried about jeb bush, what would be the worry going forward? it is still so early. we don't know what happens in this race. especially if those at the top don't stay there. then it becomes totally different. what should be the state of play for him? >> his problem is that he's droming in the policy. that is the thing. once upon a time he was considered the front runner. and he's dropping in the polls. you are starting to see these stories pop up about his nervous contributors and this kind of thing. i mean this -- this is definitely a problem. somebody else -- somebody is going to be the alternative eventually to donald trump. and it will get down to one person versus one person. now at the moment what we've got here are outsider who are carrying the day. and that person seems to be ben carson, frankly. so jeb has really got a problem here. his fundraisers know it and i think he's going to continue to have a problem. >> quick hand raise. who thinks the cnbc glooin of

you have to be at 3% to be in the debate is a good idea? either of you? jeffrey thinks it's a good idea. both of you. because it is going to wind up cutting out people maybe even like governor christie. >> we keep talking about jeb bush's numbers. how about chris christie. when the last time we discussed him? he was suppose to be a front runner and he may now be relegated to the kids table. which i mean just the thought of chris as the kid's table is amusing enough. >> come on. >> i pity the other kids at that table. >> come on. >> jeffrey, and an anna, are thank you very much. mile michaela. >> i do love the image. new york city mayor bill de blasio handled hillary clinton's campaign some 15 years ago.

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new york city mayor de blasio speaking out about the 2016 race. giving his take and also explaining how he wants to make america more inclusive. >> we took the subway up to the south bronx, the poorest congressional district in the country. we talked about income inequality. his agenda very liberal. wants to see the minimum wage raised across the country. and are the democratic candidates saying enough on that front. >> you wanted to bring me here. why? >> because that is an example of a neighborhood melrose in the bronx that is really suffering but there are things that can be done to address income

inequality. >> mayor de blasio wants to talk us up to the south bronx to show us one of the affordable housing projects his administration has been promoting. >> went through a neighborhood where the median household income is $179,000. to 2$1,000. our mission so try and create more fairness, and opportunity across the board. and we're using the tools of the city government to do it. >> and to those who say mr. mayor, that sounds two socialist. capitalism, not perfect. america not perfect economically but the best example there is in a world. what do you say to them. >> there is no contradiction between a free enterprise system and creating fair regulation and making the adjustments we need so people can participate in a society fully. >> where is that right balance?

because you don't want a society where everyone has the same. >> i don't think it is conceivable to have such a society with human beings involved. i want a society where there is opportunity for all. i want a society where no one is left out economically or otherwise. >> homelessness in the city has risen under your administration from 50,000 to 57,000 people right now. why? >> because of the same tale of two cities i talked about. the weight of the economic crisis of the last few years has been found more and more. while people were welcoming economically less stable, losing their jobs or just getting minimum wage the cost of housing kept going up. >> one of the most difficult trends in america right now which is income segregation. it is not just racial segregation. it is income segregation. as we are segregating by income we are creating different societies that have almost

nothing to do with one another. >> i've read half of new yorkerss are at or near the poverty line rite now. >> 46%. >> you have in clinton's came pain race but you have not come out and endorsed her why? >> i want to see the vision flushed out. i think when she announced her candidacy i thought she was arguably the most capable and experienced person to ever run for the office. i be i said we're facesing a the profound economic crisis. we need a set of solutions. to her great credit she has with each passing week put more meat on the bone. i think she's speaking to the issues at hand but the point is there are still some outstanding issue i need to see and i think a lot of people need to see a little more on. but this is why we are have these databases. >> trump came forward with his

tax proposal wlas. the what do you make of it. >> the one point i like is closing the loophole but the rest is suspect. and it looks to mo like a plan that continues to reward wealth instead of work. looks like a plan are wealthy americans actually do better. pay less taxes. >> on the note of donald trump, he brought me a hat and he told me that it is quite obviously michaela, if you want to get a good idea across in america you have to put on a hat. i asked if he was envious of donald trump's poll numbers. he put on his had and said ah let's see if it works. >> the making america great again. excellent conversation. thank you so much. allsyn? >> mike rowe is back and he'll tell us the new adventures he'll take on this season. oh and he's brought very special guests. stick around.

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you told me this season would be different. >> what are you talking about? >> i saw you jumping off a burning building on youtube. >> mom, i would never do that. >> i saw you drag racing on facebook. >> that wasn't me. >> i saw you parachuting on instagram. >> you're on instagram? >> michael, we're everywhere. >> what is he doing? >> periscoping. >> i am in love with his parents. >> that is fantastic. >> fantastic. >> that was cnn's host of somebody's got to do it, mike rowe. and his parents there.

talking about the crazy stunt their son will take on in the hit show. how do his mom and dad feel? luckily we have them here. mike row and his parents peggy and john. >> and i see mike squirming a little bit here. >> talk amongst yourselves. i'm good. >> how do you feel about the crazy stunts mike does? >> i don't like the dangerous ones. >> i don't either. >> but do you find out about them before or after. >> never before. the day he jumped out of an airplane. he called that evening and say well, it's over. and i'm still alive. >> what's over? >> oh i jumped out an airplane with a parachute. >> was this like this as the child? an adventurer, a daredevil. >> not really, no. it was all news to us. >> it is not the first time you have been part of the show. you were on a little bit last year i think right.

>> >> we were. we've done shows with him before. >> i've been exploiting them for years michaela. >> what do you make of all this fuss around your son. >> oh we use it. >> use the right word. >> exploit. >> exploit. >> he makes himself scarce. he says would you like to hang out with me a couple of days. >> thrilled. >> of course we're thrilled. >> but there is going to be a camera crew there and you are going to be shooting a the promo. >> for two older people, it's fun. we don't have that much excitement in our lives anymore. >> what other older person are you --. >>. [ laughter ] >> there is some excitement and some zen. a nice juxtaposition. >> the way the show works usually is we have a plan and then we have stuff that is about a plan. so we intentionally went e to texas to profile a place, where you have been allsyn. >> i love it because you do jump

off high things. and you zip line through fire as i did. did you do that. >> there were guns and explosions and fire. and i wasn't sure what we were going to do wit. so we just decided to redo the open to the show, you know, like a bruce willis movie which was exciting. then we wound up in chicago at the field museum. >> little icky. >> a little. there is a woman called anna and she does really amazing things with squirrels. she stuffs them and makes skin samples. >> a statement i've never heard before "does really interesting things with squirrels." >> you have to get out more. >> were you grossed out when you had to dissect a squirrel? >> no i haven't been grossed out really for a long time. >> you know what he used to do for a living. yucky things. >> on the flipside -- >> we found a guy who basically makes vertical touriwers out of rocks but he balances them in a

way that when you look at it you say it's impossible. it's not crazy glue or anything. >> you proved that. >> i stopped by for five minutes and stayed for a day until the i -- well almost figured out how to do it. >> this is who you raised. man of many hats. >> hrd to believe. >> literally. >> but you know he's part of the family. we we really appreciate it. >> people like him. >> they do. thanks so much. you survived mike. but your ear sweating over there. >> i no. >> of all the stunts this is make you most nervous. >> i just want to get out of here with my dignity. yes, whatever's left. >> all right. you can catch the latest episode of "somebody eats got to do it this sunday night right here on cnn. the internet of things. what we're recommending as your consultants... the new consultants are here. it's not just big data, its bigger data. we're beta testing the new wearable interface...

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