thanks for joining us for another live hour of "ac 360." the breaking news tonight, another heartbreaking evening from the small town in america, gun violence shattering the pose of a community in oregon. at least ten people were kill when had a gunman opened fire in a community college in roseburg, oregon. tonight we know the shooter is also dead. he was in a gunfire exchange with police. president obama spoke from the white house clearly frustrated that yet another mass shooting has happened in the united states. he said the gun laws have to

change. >> we know that states with the most gun laws tend to have the fewest gun deaths. so the notion that gun laws don't work or just will make it harder for law-abiding citizens and criminals will still get their guns is not born out by the evidence. we know that other countries in response to one mass shooting have been able to craft laws that almost eliminate mass shootings. friends of ours, allies of ours, great britain, australia, countries like ours. so we know there are ways to prevent it. and of course, what's also routine is that somebody somewhere will comment and say

obama poll liticized this issue. it's relative. >> again, at least ten people dead in today's shooting, the people on campus that lived through the ordeal was taken to local fairgrounds to reunite with their loved ones. sarah has the very latest, what are you seeing what is happening now, sarah? >> reporter: right, wolf, we're at the douglas county fairgrounds complex about seven miles from where the community college and we've just talked to a student who was inside of this complex. she said every single student, every one inside that building when the shooting took place has been brought here and is being questioned by, for example, the fbi who is here trying to get as much information and as many details from those who heard something, saw something, on the scene at the time the shooting around 10:30 or so in the

morning. the student told us, sarah cobb was on her fourth day of school and just come from eugene, come to the school and was enjoying herself until this happened. she said it was terrifying. she could hear the sound of the shot. she was literally in the room right next to where the shooting began. she could hear the shots. they had an adjoining door between her room and the room where the shooter was and at one point she said the teacher went up to that door and started listening and was about to open it and then decided better of it and everyone started to run. people were screaming to get out. she says she was one of the first people out. she could hear a couple of shots and then heard a couple more shots before she was able to get to safety. a lot of folks terrified here, wolf. this is where the families have have been coming who do not have injured but students, everyone is worried about their family members who were inside of that school during this absolutely terrible and terrifying time and

this is also where law enforcement has basically corralled folks to get as much information as possible to what happened. a lot of rumors but talk about what the shooter was doing inside of the room before he started firing. wolf? >> i assume, sarah, they will be providing counseling for all the students, all the people who were impacted, the family members, thewhat happened will start hitting them in the days ahead. >> reporter: the student we talked to, she said look, am i going to go back? maybe at some point but i can't fathom doing that now after what i heard and saw and terror i experienced and you're going to find students who were actually in that room, those who were shot, those who were in the hospital shs those who witnessed such tragedy, this is going to be an extremely long recovery time for those going through this. as you know, the ten people so far reported dead. this is the worst thing that has

ever happened to that community college and that was something that we heard from authorities, as well as the students who go to this school, as well, as the teachers, a lot of suorrow in this community. kyung lah joins us on the phone. what's the latest update on the victims? >> we've been speaking to the hospitals, wolf. there are two hospitals where these victims are being treated. the most serious are in a hospital about an hour away. all of the victims are women, three at sacred heart medical center. two are in serious condition. one is in critical between the ages of 18 to 34 years old and speaking to the public information officer, you could hear in her voice, she says it was an excruciating day, very tough day, the first responders, doctors, nurses, there was an army, people that didn't want to

get off their shift volunteering to assist and try to help these kids through. you mentioned whether there might be counseling. they set up a safe room at the hospital to try to get some of these counselors to start talking to these families because they are simply shell shocked. the bulk of the patients are in roseburg the town hospital is mercy medical. there are ten patients there. we don't have very much information beyond that. the hospital is quickly trying to treat their patients. these are very seriously injured people and they did put out a community call, wolf, saying that they need people to donate blood. the community is responding. wolf? >> kyung, i want to be precise, all the patients, all those injured at the hospital there are women? >> the ones at sacred heard medical center, three of the victims, these are the most seriously injured patients, three of them are there, all three of those are women. we don't have genders on the

patients who are at mercy medical. there are ten patients there. we don't have very much information beyond they have ten patients at the hospital at mercy. >> it's unclear, the number of dead ten what police say includes the shooter himself. do you have an update on that? >> we don't know beyond that particular number. what we've heard from the douglas county sheriff's office is there are ten deaths, seven are injured. what we do know is that number is fluctuating because from our count, there are 13 in the hospital. so the sheriff's office says they are trying to get accurate numbers and figure out exactly who and working through the identification. so it's still unclear right now, wolf. >> we'll stay in close touch with you. thank you very much. joining us on the phone is melanie, she was a witness to the shooting. first of all, are you okay? how are you doing? >> caller: i'm physically okay, mentally i'm a little shaken up. >> which is totally

understandable. tell us where you were and what you saw. >> caller: i was actually in the library back in the quiet area and all of a sudden, i heard somebody yell get out of here, shooter, and i stood up and looked and there was just chaos outside the window from where we were at. so a lot of people from the library were pleaing, another girl and i stayed in there and actually hid under the desk and pulled the chair in so if somebody was to walk in, it would look as if no one was there. >> did you see, did you actually see the shooting going on or just heard shots? >> no, i just heard the shots. >> did you know, do you know any of the victims? >> i don't. i don't know whose been shot. i don't know as much as everybody else does. >> how long, melody, were you

hiding underneath the desk before you could get yourself out? >> caller: i believe we were under there for at least an hour before we finally heard somebody yell clear and then we poked out heads out and looked to make sure things were cleared up. >> the indications are that at least some of the victims were women. was there any indication that the shooter was deliberately going after women? >> caller: not to my knowledge. >> because there has been reports there was some sort of anti women attitude, those are unconfirmed but it's a very disturbing development if true, the gunshots you did hear, the back and forth between the gunman and police, what was that like? >> caller: terrifying because honestly, we didn't know where the shots were coming from. we didn't know if it was the shooter, the police department. all we heard were shots and we just stayed under the desk.

>> what was going through your mind when you heard these gunshots going back and forth? >> caller: my kids, my husband, my family, my friends, honestly, the first thing i did when i got under that desk was start praying and then put my phone on silent because i've always got it on vibrate in case somebody needs to get ahold of me because of my kids and i put my phone on silent so that way we wouldn't be heard in there. but the first thing running through my head were my kids and my husband and i just started crying. >> did you make any phone calls from this cell phone you had? >> caller: i did after we were cleared out. i was honestly too figrightenedo make any kind of peep while hiding so i did not make any phone calls while we were under the desk. >> you must have been so terrified. thank you, melody boqua for

sharing your eyewitness account. i'm glad you're back home, at least for now, safe and sound. getting new information, pamela, what are you learning. >> reporter: we have learned from law enforcement sources, wolf, that the gunman has been identified as 26-year-old chris harper mercer. this is according to multiple law enforcement officials. investigators have been interviewing friends and associates, anyone he may have come in contact with recently. what we're still trying to find out at this hour is whether he lived in the area, whether perhaps he was a student at the community college there. we don't have those answers but we do know that investigators are actively piecing this together. trying to figure out a motive, talking to family and friends and again, we're learning it is 26-year-old chris harper mercer. you may recall the governor there in oregon earlier today said that it was a 20-year-old, but the fact he's 26-year-old, he's 26 years old is significant because we have learned that

four guns were recovered from that scene, three pistols and one long gun. you have to be 21, of course, to buy a gun. we know a the tf is in the procf tracing the weapons to see how he purchased them. were they gifted? did he buy them legally? those questions are being answered by investigators but the big news now, the gunman has been identified by law enforcement officials as 26-year-old chris harper mercer. >> do we know how they identified him? the cell phone this individual had, driver's license, eyewitness? >> i personally from my sources haven't been told anything about a cell phone. what i can tell you is earlier today among law enforcement officials, there was confusion about the possible identity of that gunman and perhaps that is why we heard from the governor that he was 20 years old. so we're not exactly sure how they were able to come to this conclusion. i know they collected everything at the scene, of course, would

look at an id, car he may have been driving. what we're being told is through talking to friends, family and associates, that is what ultimately helped law enforcement conclude that this is the identity of the gun man. as you know, wolf, in the beginning of this hmass shootin, it's the fog of war, initially what comes out is inaccurate but this is who law enforcement is confident is the gunman. >> i want you to stick around, i know you're working the sources. i want to get the latest on the investigation as we continue our coverage. pamela reported they have now identified the gunman. we'll be right back.

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the breaking news tonight, the person that killed at least today today at umpqua has been identified. pamela brown, you've learned the

name of this, we learned 26-year-old shooter? >> that's right. this is who law enforcement believes is the gunman, 26-year-old chris harper mercer. this is according toment offici to be clear here, wolf, in the very beginning, there was confusion about what the gunman's possible identity could have been but we're learning after investigators interviewed his family and friends that they believe this is the gunman, this 26-year-old chris harper mercer. of course, the big question now, wolf, is who is he and why did he do what he did? investigators are looking through combing through his social media, laptops, cell phone and also, we want to know if he lives in the area. i don't have the answer to the question yet but of course, that something we're trying to put together. we have a team of people digging on his background, wolf? >> does this individual, chris harper mercer have an extensive

social media break ground, youtube, twitter, facebook, all those social media sites? >> i can tell you that law enforcement officials talked about that he, you know, they are looking at his possible postings on social media but it's unclear as far as his footprint, social media footprint and that is something we're looking into and law enforcement actively is looking at now trying to figure out where he may have posted online, if there were any missed preevent indicators, warning signs that he may have posted something eluding what he'll do. these are things law enforcement is looking at the now trying to determine and validate these sites that he may have been in part with and involved with. wolf? >> you also learned from law enforcement sources that this individual had four guns with him, is that right? >> we have learned four guns were recovered from the scene, wolf, three pistols and one long gun and it is believed at this

stage those long guns did belong to the shooter. we know atf is actively tracing these guns trying to see how he obtained them, whether they were obtained legally or not, the fact that he is 26, he is above the age to buy a gun but did he have a criminal record that would prevent him and were they bought illegally? we don't have the answer. right now, atf put an urgent trace on the guns trying to figure out where they were bought and where they came from, wolf? >> pamela, stay with us and bring in the former fbi profiler mary ellen o'toole, and former secret service agent dan and tom fuentes. a name is attached to the shooter, 26-year-old chris harper mercer. that's going to give law enforcement, whether local, state, federal a huge break in trying to determine why this happened, how this occurred. >> absolutely, wolf.

they will look at his background to try to go back to his childhood and see what development he had. did he have mental health issues? did he have a criminal record? led him from wherever he came from to end up on this campus at this time today and commit these acts. >> the fbi, you worked for the fbi, they have to find out what happened to learn from this so it doesn't happen again. >> that's right. they will look at everything in his computer and smart phone and they will be reading anything that he's written and they will be particularly interested in what he's saying out there in social media that actually shows him enjoying this before the event and that's really very disturbing but they will be looking for that. >> a sick, sick thought to think about that but unfortunately, as you know, tom, and dan it happens too often here in the united states. dan, i assume there are also going to be looking if anyone else was tipped off in advance that this mass murder could in fact be underway could take place and if they were, why

didn't they do something? why didn't they make a phone call to police to try and stop it? >> right. it's a good question, wolf. the secret service didn't exhaustive analysis of school-type shooting events and what they found out, they were rarely impulsive events. they weren't passion crimes. most were thought out in advance and most importantly in research found out multiple people had suspicions and something would happen in advance. i wouldn't be surprise if they had some idea this individual had some malicious intent. >> pamela brown, getting for information as we speak now. what else are you learning? >> we're trying to learn here, wolf, where this gunman is from, whether or not he was from the area and of course, we're piecing together right now his social media footprint. there are indications from law

enforcement officials he was on social media but in all these cases, social media has to determine whether those postings are valid and actually came from him but again, we are learning that this gunman, according to law enforcement officials is 26-year-old chris harper mercer. that is what law enforcement officials determined at this hour and trying right now to piece together a motive by talking to his friends, associates, anyone he may have been in touch with recently to figure out if there were warning signs if think missed something along the line. >> do we know if the shooter who is now dead was killed in a fire fight with law enforcement, if the shooter made any statements as he was going on the massacre on this rampage? >> nothing that we have confirmed ourselves or have been reports that he spoke to the students in the classroom and said certain things. at this point we haven't confirmed. >> really important.

good point that pamela brown, tom fuentes makes, a lot of information out there in this day of the internet and social media, information you want to be precise and don't want to report on until you have it nailed down. >> that's true but would apply to other people in this chat room with him and some of the other listeners and participants in social media. they are not positive enough to take a step and may not, either. they are assuming in a way the people they are communicating with, so now they are going back and forth and the internet era no problem and rant and rave. >> would they be legally in trouble if they had some sort of chat with this killer the night

before and they read or heard what he was planning on doing but didn't do anything about it? >> there is exposure there particularly if they knew his name and particularly if he spoke specifics. they are certainly going to look at that. they have the to. that's leakage. it happens before these cases, this could have been prevented. >> you think this could have been prevented, dan? >> yeah, i think it could have been prevented but i think the answers are awfully inconvenient. wolf. the only thing that's going to stop the type of people that engage in these shootings, loan wolf terrorists and psychopath thick individua individuals, in 17 years of law enforcement i've never arrested someone who committed a crime

with a gun that had the gun legally. >> pamela brown sticking around, she's getting more information. more of president obama's very, very angry tough words in the wake of this mass cure in oregon. plea for americans to push for gun law reforms to prevent any more mass shootings in the united states. his anger today clearly visible. padvil pm gives you the healingu at nsleep you need, it. helping you fall asleep and stay asleep so your body can heal as you rest.

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after today's mass shooting, president obama's remarks broadcast live. we seen him do this time after time but as we touched on earlier, today was different. his anger visible, words extraordinary blunt. here is more of his message. >> as i said, just a few months ago, and i said a few months before that, and i said each time we see one of these mass shootings, our thoughts and prayers are not enough. it's not enough. it does not capture the heartache and grief and anger that we should feel. and it does nothing to prevent this carnage from being inflicted someplace else in america. next week or a couple months

from now. earlier this year i answered a question in an interview by saying the united states of america is the one advanced nation on earth in which we do not have sufficient common sense gun safety laws even in the face of repeated mass killings. and later that day there was a mass shooting at a movie theater in lafayette, louisiana, that day. somehow this has become routine. we've become numb to this. we've talked about this after columbine and blacksburg after tucson, after new town, after aurora, after charleston. it cannot be this easy for somebody who wants to inflict harm on other people to get his or her hands on a gun.

and what's become routine, of course, is the response of those who oppose any kind of common sense gun legislation. right now, i can i'm mamagine t press release is being cranked out. we need more guns they will argue. fewer gun safety laws. does anybody really believe that? there are scores of responsible gun owners in this country. they know that's not true. we know because of the polling that says the majority of americans understand we should be changing these laws including the majority of responsible law-abiding gun owners. >> president obama, as you know, has not had much luck in passing legislation to tighten gun laws in the united states. let's discuss what is going on with gloria borger and senior washington correspondent jeff

zellany. he was the most angry as i called him. they used to call him no drama obama but he was dramatic today. >> i think obama was raw there. i think he was furious. he was frustrated. he's exasperated, wolf, and this is a president who said all of us are collectively answerable to those families, and what the president did, which is different from what he's done before is said to people, if you care about the gun control issue, make this a single issue. vote on this issue, which is what all the progun control groups really want. >> let me run another little clip of the president, jeff, listen to this. >> we spend over a trillion dollars and pass countless laws and devote entire agencies to preventing terrorist attacks on our soil and rightfully so.

and yet, we have a congress that explicitly blocks us from even collecting data on how we could potentially reduce gun deaths. how can that be? >> really blaming congress for the lack of what he calls sensible gun control legislation. he's tried, he's tried his best to get something passed but failed basically because of the opposition in the house and the senate. >> he has tried and tried his best but it's mainly republicans but not entirely republicans. i remember that debate in congress so well after new town. everyone thought this is the moment, this is the time, so many sandy hook families were in congress lobbying these senators and it didn't happen. it didn't happen. also because of some democrats opposed to this, mainly republica republicans, the the president hasn't found a willing partner in congress, this was not this president obama during that moment. this is a different time for this president. i have covered him for more than

a decade in the senate before during his whole tenure in the white house. he feels this, as gloria said, in a raw frustrated way. who knows if he's going to be able to do anything. we're seeing an activist president in the final years of his time in office here. boy, i think he's going to try and do something. the question is can he find a willing partner in congress? >> he's got a year left, basically. >> he does. he's done executive orders that are out margin here. he needs big congressional action, wolf, on background checks. he wasn't able to get it. he lost four democrats after new town in the senate so he's going to have a really difficult time and by the way, public opinion is not necessarily with him. i know he says that it is but our polls, wolf, show that a majority of americans think the current laws are just about right. it's very divided politically, most democrats don't think they are right, most republicans

think it's okay but majorities say if you expand background checks, it isn't going to do much on mental illness. a congress is worried about the nra, it's not a great formula for getting anything done. >> is this going to spill over now in the presidential campaigns, jeff, you think on the republican side, the democratic side? >> i think without a doubt but i think we know where the lines are here, wolf, and we saw hillary clinton tonight in boston saying she is going to make this an issue. but she has been and democrats have been. i find it hard to e believe a presidential campaign is anyway to bring sense to this here. the reality is there's not been a willing partner this congress, not a bipartisan spirit to do anything, certainly something like the this here. so i think it's, i hate to be scenical about this but gloria and i have been in washington for a long time, as have you, it's hard to imagine any shooting is horrific enough to

bring anyone together on this. this president since i talked to people in the white house tonight after that speech, i said he seems fired up. they said he is fired up and wants to do something. >> it's like he was embarrassed of the united states in front of the world saying every other industrialized country, they don't have these mass shootings as we have here in the united states. >> joe biden was speaking tonight and said we're basically the only sieve l icivilized cou the world and the president can say this all he wants but as jeff points out, it's a geographic issue, democrats who are in progun states not going to support the president on this. he worked really hard on this after new town he couldn't get it done. it seems to me he has less leverage now as an out going president than he did a couple of years ago, so it, you know, i wouldn't be optimistic from this white house for getting anything

done and by the way, neither are they. they understand political reality thety. >> in the house and senate. >> exactly. >> sure. >> that's a problem. the sheriff overseeing this investigation in oregon right now, he actually opposes, at least he's been on the record opposing legislation for background checks, which is something the president says you need to have greater background checks. it sort of under scores the opposition in the country to what the president is pitching. >> no question about it. that sort of does explain as gloria said the urban and rural divide here, the beltway america divide but it will be interesting to see if this sheriff keeps opposing them. what we need here if you talk to experts is a change of minds here, people to come together here. so let's check in with that sheriff in a couple days to see if he's still opposing that. mental illness is at the root of this. we have 20-year-olds, usually in 20s, young men, same suspects time after time after time but background checks without a

question most believe would do something to solve the problems. they are buying guns, wolf. >> you hear republican candidates hearing it's about mental illness. it's not about background checks. >> exactly. >> thanks very much. once again, we now know the shooter's name, law enforcement officials identified him as chris harper mercer, 26 years old. we'll bring you new details about him as soon as we get them and awaiting a news conference. we'll bring that to you live and also ahead, the vital lessons first responders learned 16 years ago from the mass shooting at columbine high school, a massacre that shaped the way school shooterinings are now handled.

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breaking news we're following multiple law enforcement officials telling us the gunman at the umpqua community college is identified as 26-year-old chris harper mercer. this is not the first mass shooting at a school in the united states. many lessons for law enforcement were learned at the columbine high school in 199 9. a.j. deandrea is joining us and thanks very much gentlemen for joining us. the shootings often happen in

schools or college campuses instead of malls or workplaces, why is that? >> three major reasons, the first is that these people nearly always choose symbolic targets, symbols of authorities, and these people are using terrorist tactics. in 9/11 we saw vehicles of government and capitalism and school is the central authority figure in the world for many of them. the second one, though, is practicality and this person, we're not sure whether, at least last i heard i'm not sure if he's in the school but a practical matter where it's their turf. they know it very well. they know where the security is, how to get in and out, what will work and what won't where say if you go to a mall, it's a lot of unknown territories. most plans fail so practicality

is an issue. perhaps the biggest one is after columbine, i think we all saw that schools really terrorize us and that's what this is about. this is a form of using terrorism and we're terrified about children being vulnerable a and parents, especially. more and more of these people are realizing to conduct it at a school, they will get a lot more coverage from us. >> good points. sergeant deandrea, you've been a first responder in three school shootings. what has changed, if anything? >> probably the most important lesson that we've learned over the years is we need to get inside the school as quickly as we can to be able to effectively save lives and the less sons from columbine where it was a perimeter based operation waiting for tactical teams and it's evolved from that to patrolmen going directly in and addressing the threat.

>> when you're part of the first responder entry team, sergeant, in a situation like the this, are you first looking to final the shooter? trying to get to the victims? or are you doing all of that simultaneously? >> there is a lot of moving parts taking place. the first officers on scene are headed to the gunman to stop the threat. right on the heels of that we have the rescue task force philosophy that integrates the fire department and law enforcement who enter into start to attend to the victims to get them the fastest medical care that we can. >> dave, when you see, you know, what happened there, obviously, a lot of questions have to be answered, a lot of this investigation really only beginning but it happens so often, what do you think? how do you prevent these kinds of horrible massacres? >> well, there is a lot of things. i'm really glad to see president obama getting angry because i frequently get really angry, too. i think we need to do something

on guns is a no brainer. we need to do something about mental health but that's a big, overwhelming problem and most of the shooters turn out to be deeply depressed. it's much easier to break up a small piece and deal with depression but the third and i think the way the media covers this is crucial, and i think we didn't start this, obviously, we didn't create this problem but we're playing a role in marking stars out of these people. we need to come to grips with that. we need to hash this out and really accept partial ownership for the role we're playing and start something in a way to deal with these differently. >> sergeant a.j., dave, thanks very much. we're going to continue to follow the breaking news but there is other important news we're following, as well, including a powerful hurricane slamming the bahamas and pressing on. will it cause problems in the united states? we'll get the the latest.

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more breaking news. a new advisory on hurricane joaquin. tonight the dangerous category 4

storm is pounding the bahamas with a maximum winds of 130 miles per hour. then it will press on heading into the atlantic. our meteorologist jennifer gray is joining us now. what's the latest on the storm's path, jennifer? >> yeah, we are looking at 1030-mile-per-hour sustained winds with gusts of 160. this storm has been sitting right over the bahamas all day long. it is going to sit here tomorrow as well. so we're talking about 24 to 48 hours of sustained winds of major hurricane force. and so it is going to be devastated for the central bahamas. this is going to sit here for much of tomorrow morning, and then finally start to lift to the north. that's where we're starting to see a little bit of weakening, category 3, possibly category 2 by sunday afternoon. and what's interesting in the cone, wolf, we've been talking the past couple of days and we've seen different shifts in the track. the storm is now starting to shift a little farther to the east, which is good news. we want this storm to stay out to sea. we don't want it to have a huge

impact on the mid-atlantic and the northeast. portions of the northeast yes, still on the cone. but we do expect this trek to the east to continue, which would be good news. the longer it can stay off shore, the better news for the mid-atlanticnd the northeast. we'll see higher than normal surf, the possibility of wind, even rain, but the farther this heads to the east, the better off we are. here the bright white line is the national hurricane center, the forecast cone. you can see most of the models now agreeing that it is going to stay to the east. when the hurricane center coming out with their next hurricane track in the next hour, it will be interesting to see if they pull it even more to the east. >> there will, though, be a feeling, there will be an impact on the east coast of the united states even if it does stay to the east, right? >> absolutely. not only will this storm bring possibly higher than normal surf, we're talking about major impacts in this southeast. and this is actually not quite due to this storm.

this is due to a cutoff low that's in the southeast. it's going to pump a lot of tropical moisture up across, say, the carolinas and even virginia. some of these areas could see 10 to 15 inches of rain. north carolina could see 6 to 10 inches. and with the topography of south carolina and north carolina, you have the mountains and then you have the low country right around the coast. we only need about 4 to 5 inches in some of these areas to produce mud fluding. when you talk about catastrophic flooding across the carolinas. we'll be watching that very closely for the next couple of day, wolf. >> we certainly will. thank you. let's go to the coast of virginia right now where heavy rains have already caused problems in some of the places jennifer was just mentioning. this is the scene in norfolk yesterday, not what you want to be in as you're driving around. the virginia governor has declared a state of emergency as they wait to see how much more

rain hurricane joaquin may dump on them. joined by virginia beach, what's it like there, martin? >> it's very windy, wolf, i got to tell you. this woke has are terrible for the eastern seaboard. they've had a series of storms and this one that they're getting battered by now. this is not hurricane joaquin. that's a thousand miles to the south. what they're getting hit with is that storm system that jennifer was just talk about. torrential rains have impacted everywhere from the carolinas up to massachusetts. now, this is where you set in with the possibility of a joaquin. and not necessarily a direct hit by any means. even off shore, that huge massive rainmaker would create all sorts of problems on top of the problems they have. that's why they have the state of emergency here in virginia and in some of the carolinas and also up in new jersey. they needed to make sure that their emergency services could have full clearance to get out there. they're worried about not just flooding but now weakened trees

coming down, blocking roads, blocking evacuation routes, blocking emergency crews getting in, they're also worried about massive power outages and then you heard the severe flooding problem. and the winds. all of that combined, it could be a horrendous weekend even if the storm's off shore, wolf. >> quickly, how are people preparing for at least a lot more rain? >> they're taking it seriously. a lot of the store shelves have been heavily hit up the usuals, water, bread and milk and they're hunkering down and waiting to see which way the storm's going to go. >> it will be a tough few days either way. let's hope that hurricane joaquin stays to the east, does not get close to the east coast, although, as jennifer gray pointed out, there will be an impact either way. let's hope it's minimal because it's a bad situation. martin savage, thank you very much. when you booked this trip, you didn't know we had over 11,000 local activities listed on our app.

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conference in oregon. cnn will bring you that live as soon as it happens. stay tuned for all the latest on the path of hurricane joaquin as well. in the meantime, "cnn tonight" with don lemon starts right now. this is cnn breaking news. >> it is breaking news this evening. investigators identified the shooter at ump qua community college, the gunman, 26-year-old chris harper mercer. ten dead, seven injured after mercer opens fire on the campus in roseburg at around 10:38 this morning local time. mercer killed in the gun battle with police. here's what we know right now, three pistols and one long rifle found at the scene according to law enforcement. well over 100 investigators combing the campus as a small community in rural oregon is reeling and an angry president obama says this -- >>