>> i'm isha sesay in los angeles. >> i'm john vause in roseburg, oregon. we begin this hour with disturbing new details about the mass shooting here on the campus of umpqua community college. the father of one of the wounded students said the gunman was targeting christians. he said his daughter told him the gunman walked into her classroom, shot her teacher point blank. he then ordered students to stand up if they were christians and he then shot them. when it was all over, ten people were dead, seven others wounded. police say the shooter was 26 years old carrying body armor with enough ammunition for a

prolonged gun fight. he was killed in a shootout with police. >> i will not give the name of the person who perpetrated this cowardly act. the media will confirm the name in time, but you will never hear it from me. >> you're hearing some harrowing accounts from those who survived this mass shooting here. >> this is coming from the father and the brother of a woman who was insigh this classroom. an 18-year-old student anna boylin. she was in her fourth day of community college. she was in the classroom.

she says the gunman came in firing, aiming first for the professor. here's what her father heard from his daughter just before she was about to go into surgery here at this hospital. >> the gentleman was systematically -- >> he came in, right? >> he came in and there was gunfire immediately and scattered the room. got everyone's attention. from what i understood of what she said is he shot the professor point blank right, one shot, killed him. took him right out of it. and ores had been injured and then he -- this man had enough time to -- i don't know how much time elapsed before he was able to stand there and start asking people one by one what their religion was. are you a christian, he would ask them. and if you're a christian stand up. and they would stand up and he would say good, because you're a christian, you're going to see

god in just about one second and then he shot and killed hem. and he kept going down the line doing this. to people. and how much time do you need? you know? and she said he had a handgun. that it wasn't a big rifle, assault rifle, or anything like this. this was a single handgun that he had enough ammunition and enough time to drop the magazine out of it, put another one in and continue his thing. how does he have that much time at a facility? i mean -- >> dad, you're -- >> yeah. i don't understand that how he could have that much time to kill that many people.

>> he said blond woman, get up. she played dead and didn't get up. we suspect we'll to hear more of these tales trickling out. >> you mentioned she was shot in the back, she's undergoing surgery. there are horrific wounds these people have suffered. this is a small community. how have they been coping. it's obviously something they haven't ha to deal with before. >> across this area, one example that we've seen at the hospitals is that the hospitals have been saying that there are blood drives, that they need blood.

people are. co-ing out and saying they want to offer anything that they can. we spoke with the father who said -- and we should say that anna is out of surgery, that she is doing well that she has sensation in her legs. her family is feeling quite optimistic about her prognosis. but they've gotten flowers sent here to the hospital. there have been pizza deliveries. so they're trying to do the very best to take care of one another. >> thank you. first week of school here right now, our next guest spoke to our affiliate koin, hearing the gunshots ringing out y the classroom right next door. >> it was in the middle of class, i was taking notes. all of a sudden there was this

loud pop. and the only way i can describe it was it sounded like a ruler smacking against a chalkboard. i didn't really think it was a gunshot. because it didn't really sound like it. it made everyone jump. we all jumped. my teacher said -- she's like whoa, i hope everyone is all right in there. we didn't know what was going on. then we went back to taking notes. it all happened very fast. one of my classmates in the back said why don't you go over and see if they're all right. my teacher said i'm not going to open the door. i'll knock. she went over and knocked on the door. and she yelled through the door, hey, is everyone okay over there. and then as soon as she said that, nult multiple shots were . she looked at us -- it's hard to explain. she looked at us and said we have to get out. one of my other classmates jumped up and said everybody out, come on, let's go. we just immediately began

running. i knew the look and the fear on my teacher's face that it was serious. >> many within this small community gathered a the a public park not far from here. they were grieving to those who were killed pray for those who survived. it was a candle light vigil for quite a few hours. many simply didn't want to leave it seemed. they stayed there and just wanted to come together after such an horrific event in this small town of about 22,000 people. >> well, for more on how this event will be impacting on this part of the united states, this town of roseburg, rick francona, who we normally talk to about horrific events overseas, you know this area, you nies theme people. and when you hear about these events happening here now, what do you think?

>> it was shock. i drove over today. i walked around town, i was talking to people where the family is being reunited. we don't expect to this happen in these big cities but not here. >> this is a rural part of the united states. a lot of people have guns. you see nra bumper stickers as people drive in. guns are a part of life. if you saw someone on campus with guns, would that be a red flag? >> it would be alarming. because the gun is -- it's quasi a gun h of free area. it is a college campus. you don't expect to see people walking around with weapons.

even the guards are unarmed. the threat level was never assessed to be that high. we don't expect that kind of activity in roseburg. we. >> we eesh learning more about the gunman. what we're hearing from the relatives. he went through, he asked if they were christians to stand up. then shot them. that for this community must be mind boggling that someone would actually do that. >> unheard of. totally out of character. no one would suspect that. where would you learn something like that? is it outside events? world events we see today. the internet bringing the world right here to our doorstep? it's just unheard of. >> a lot is being said at these kinds of educational facilities being soft targets. because they're meant to be, i guess, open to the rest of the world. so how do you secure something like this? >> this campus would be tough to secure the way it was built. it's built to be open. it's a circle, there's no gates,

no walls, walkways go through to be intersected. it would be almost impossible to secure. this is like other facilities in the united states. why do people go after soft targets. malls. no one goes after airports anymore because they're hardened. >> the numbers are 47 shootings on school campuses so far this year. >> that's the way life is in 21st century america. >> does it get to the point where things simply have to change for campuses and students and people in education? >> if i had to guess, john, i would say roseburg has changed forever. but roseburg will not change forever. they will do what they have to do to get through this. they will make the changes they think they need to, but roseburg will always be the community that it is. >> we will get the name of the victims in the next couple of dpaps we'll find out a lot more about who they were, many of them were students. starting out on their lives. there are a lot of difficult days to come. >> absolutely.

but as we're seeing in town tonight, everybody is rallying around the family, not only of the victims, of the survivor, but the rest of the community. this community is coming together. because this campus was an integral part of this community. and the mourning will include all of the people. >> okay, rick. good to have you with us. sad, very sad day. but we appreciate your insights. thank you so much. >> isha, once again, it is a small, rural town. the people are sort of wandering under a in shock in in many parts, still trying to work out how this could happen here. as rick was saying, it's not meant to. many people come here to this part of the world to escape the kind of violence they see in other parts of the united states>> it's going to take them a very long time to get over this and to heal. john vause, we appreciate it. thanks to rick francona, much appreciated. u.s. president barack obama expressed deep anger and frustration at yet another mass shooting in america.

>> as i said, just a few months ago and i said a few months before that and i said each time we see one of these mass shootings, our thoughts and prayers are not enough. our thoughts and prayers do nothing to prevent this from happening again in america next week or a couple of months from now.

anybody who does this has a sickness in their minds. regardless of what their motivations may be. but we are not the only country on earth that has people with mental illnesses who want to do harm to other people. earlier this year, i answered a question in an interview by saying the united states of america is the one advanced nation on earth in which we do not have sufficient common sense gun safety laws, even in the face of repeated mass killings.

and later that day there was a mass shooting at a movie theatre in lafayette, louisiana. that day. the conversation in the aftermath of it, we've become numb to this. we talked about this after columbine and blacksburg, after tucson, after new town, after aurora, after charleston. it cannot be this easy for somebody who wants to inflict harm on other people to get his or her hands on a gun.

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>> welcome back to coverage of a deadly community college 14509ing in the united states. this is what we know right now. law enforcement sources tell cnn the gunman was a 26-year-old man. he died after a gun fight with police on the campus of the umpqua community college, but not before he shot and killed ten people and wounded seven others. the father of a wounded victim says the gunman targeted christians. he says his daughter told him that he asked students one by one if they were christians before shooting them. and earlier we heard from a student who was a witness.

>> the shooter supposedly shot some students. and i was just in class and i heard a popping noise almost a balloon popping when you have too much air. i knew something wasn't right. and so i get down, and she went to see what was going on. she opened the door and unfortunately the gunman shot her. and i don't know ooze of right now what the situation is right now, but we locked the doors, turned off the lights and just -- we were all pretty much in panic mode right there. we called 911 and called our parents, off loved ones. >> live now to sarah sidener. we know the entire apartment block is being sealed off.

what else have you learned? >> we have just been talking to a neighbor. a lot of folks have left because this has been cordoned off by police. the fbi, the atf, as well as the sheriff's department has been out here. a large number of law enforcement agencies out here trying to go through and get evidence here. they will not confirm whether or not this is indeed the apartment. some of the neighbor, we showed them a picture of harper mercer and it turns out they said indeed that's the guy we have been seeing walking around the complex. we have just talked to a neighbor a few seconds ago who has come out to say they believe that his relative, potentially his mother lived in the same building. that she was until tears. i mean, bawling today. and basically telling people to mind their own business when shi asked what was going on. that is after police started showing up here.

they came in with bullet proof test vests, they brought dogs with them. some of them had helmets on at some point. then the scene has calmed down a bit. they have been able to get inside of that apartment. but we have not seen them take anything out at this point in time. we do know they are still here. they are still looking at the scene, they are still talking to folks here. but certainly this area is rattled. they're surprised. they say that mercer was quiet, that he didn't really say much. they would see him sometimes sort of shuffling around wearing dark glasses. but that he wasn't a gregarious person. that he was a very quiet person who stayed to himself. and every now and then they would say they would see him with a woman. now we're hearing from a neighbor who lives in the same building that they do believe it was his mother and she was visibly upset today.

>> to you know what his link was to the campus? did he have any links to the college? that answer did not come at least to us at this point in time. a lot of people will say this is the only community college in this county. people loved having the community college here because

it is the only college that is available for the 100,000 people who live in and around the county. so the question remains why this college, why that classroom, why those students. so no one knows a the this point in tile. everyone is trying to figure it out. also this community trying to figure out how to go forward and heal after such a tragedy. everyone here seems to know somebody who was affected by this shooting. john? >> okay, outside the apartment which is believed to be the apartment of the gunman. and isha, of course, that question of why, the motive, eventually we'll find out in the days, maybe weeks to come. but we'll find out exactly why this gunman decided to come here and kill so many people earlier today. >> yeah, indeed. that is indeed the task at hand for authorities. thank you, john.

well, for more on the deadly shooting. i'm joined by a former fbi lead negotiator to try to piece all of this together to john's point. chris, one of the victim's fathers -- one victim's father, i should say, spoke and said that the shooter asked individuals about their religion before shooting them. we don't want to overstate that with we don't know why the question was asked. but i do want to put it to you and get your immediate thoughts on that. what do you make of it? >> well, the act besides asking that question, the act itself, there's a lot of rage here, there's a lot of anger, there's a lot of judgment. exactly why he's asking that question, there's a number of possibilities. i would want to hear several more things. you know, immediately the thing that springs to everyone's mind was that he might have been muslim. but that's not only it. he may have been a disinfected christian. he might have been an atheist who in this view, he's angry at god or people that worship god. there's anger here.

you need a lot more information before you start jumping to those conclusions. this does back up that this tends to look like a very judgmental sort of action and asking that question is a very judge and jury type of approach. another indication that in his own mind he had a rational plan for this. what he saw as rational. and that he thought this through. >> again, authorities don't know his motive. as of yet. we know that they're trying to gain some insight into individuals. they already started to talk to friends and family. talk to me how those interviews are approach pd .because, of course, for the friends and families of the shooter, they are feeling a host of emotions. >> they're feeling horrified. they're actually feeling guilty. because this developed under their nose. they will feel themselves. and they did not about it. there's going to be a tremendous

amount of trauma from his immediate social circle who didn't see this coming. law enforcement interviewers are going to have to be very gentle with these people. it' easy to say, because in my early days in law enforcement, i didn't know how to do this. and i learned from great cops that i got to see. it's in instances like this, that law enforcement actually does a phenomenal job an we see how good law enforcement in this country is. they will approach the people in a circle, very gently. they'll actually physically make it a point to try to stay at an eye level below them. they want to make them feel safe and secure and that way is the quickest way to get them to share their inner thoughts and inner bits of information that they might know about him. >> you'll say they'll be feeling guilty. in these situations, from what we know of these mass shootings, do they come with warning signs? >> well, there are warning signs. but how can you correlate the warning signs and know what to

look for. what might jump out as me a normal behavior. and in most case, we as human beings, are going to want to think the best of people around us. and give them the benefit of the doubt. and we might not see how the patterns line up. and so after the fact, these people are going to feel very guilty about not seeing these patterns. >> we so appreciate you spending time with us this evening and sharing your insights and perspective. thank you so much. more on barack obama's angry reaction right after a quick break. >> our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families. we are holding the community of douglas county in our hearts today. when you're not confident your company's data is secure, the possibility of a breach can quickly become the only thing you think about.

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>> the college just visited their 50th anniversary creptly, and this is a tragedy. >> we are following the breaking news. ten people killed in a mass shooting at a community college in roseburg, oregon. the gunman, a 26-year-old male is also dead. >> he had body armor and enough ammunition for a prolonged gun fight. according to one student, he asked people who stand up if they were christians, then he shot them. the gunman was killed during a shootout with police.

>> i hope i don't have to come out again during my tenure as president to offer my condolences to families during these circumstances. but based orn my experience as president, i can't guarantee that. that ear terrible to say. may god bless the memories of those who were killed today. may he bring comfort to their families and courage to the injured as they fight their way back.

>> i will tell you we will bring president obama's full remarks here on cnn. we will bring you the full comments so we can really bring you a sense of the frustration felt by the president at his inability to gain some change to gun policy here in the united states. >> 10:00 a.m. thursday morning, the first calls tom to authority. >> shooter at ucc, somebody is outside one of the doors shooting through the door. we do have one female that has been shot at this time. >> within minutes, law enforcement is on the scene. >> we're exchanging shots with them.

he's in the classroom. >> exchanging gunshots with a male. he's in a classroom on the southeast side of snyder hall. >> confirm a report that he's got a long gun. >> we now know the shooter is a 26-year-old male. and believed to have four guns according to a law enforcement official. >> i heard a loud bang. there was a couple of girls running, sprinting away from the building. and then i hear screaming after that first gunshot. i looked at and saw the students running. we need to get out there right now. we have upwards of 20 victims. and police are able to stop the gunman. >> officers around the county immediately responded to the college. and upon arriving there, they located the shooter in one of the buildings. officers engaged that suspect. there was an exchange of gun fire. the shooter is deceased. >> in the aftermath of the ma a

massac massacre, law enforcement are searching for any warning signs. do stay with us.

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enforcement are searching for a moti motive. the advocacy group every town for gun safety using data for the u.s. centers of disease control estimate an average of 88 americans are killed with guns each day. and to sight a study in the journal of trauma that calculates the average u.s. murder gun rate is more than 20 times, more than 20 times that of other developed nations. well, the reason our poll shows that most americans don't think that stricter gun control measures would have much impact on keeping guns out of the wrong hands. the survey in mid september shows that 58% of americans responding, don't believe stronger background checks would prevent criminals from buying guns. 42% as you see there, 42% say they would. gun control is a politically charged issue here in the united states and republican presidential candidates are reacting to thursday's mass shooting. one of them, ben carson told a radio interviewer, the greater focus should be on the person behind the gun.

>> obviously, there are going to be those who are calling for gun control. but that happens every time we have one of these incidents. obviously that's not the issue. we need to be looking at the mentality at the individuals and seeing if there's any early warning clues that we can gather. >> i spoke to the father of allison, who was shot on live television. >> if you close loopholes.

you're going to save lives. it's proven. in states with tighter gun control there's less violence. and it's certainly the people that you say, oh, as you always hear from people like that, their argument is, well, guns don't kill people. people kill people. well, again, that's a flawed argument and it's only half right. just like seat belts. it will not necessarily keep you from dieing in a horrific tragic, but it might save your life. >> our cnn panel weighed in with don lemon. >> the president said that we should politicize this.

this should be politicized. are you surprised that he said that? >> not at this point. i would have been surprised if he would have said it a few years ago. but this is a second-term president at the end of his second term who clearly feels really strongly about this. and i think what you saw the president doing this afternoon is telling people who care about gun violence they do have to become single issue voters, the way those who support the nra are single issue voters. he clearly said when you make a decision to elect somebody, expect your elected officials to reflect your views. so it was a very direct plea to people. because he's been unable to do anything in congress. and by the way, that includes a bunch of his own democrats who are from pro gun state southern democrats, largely, who have abandoned him on this issue.

we don't want the gun laws to change. i think it's a huge uphill battle for the president. the question that i have is what is he going to do now. what is he going to propose legislatively. >> i heard you say the, the words will ring hollow. it's a huge challenge. >> i think gloria was exactly right. what the president is saying today, if you care about this issue, you have to be as active, engaged as vocal as the nra.

right now, even though basic steps like background checks and closing the gun show loophole, the overall majority in this country. but members of congress are more afraid of the nra than they are of public opinion. and that has to change. the president is going to talk about this over the next remainder of his term. my hope is that democratic candidates talk about it. until we show people that you can win by running aggressively for additional gun safety laws, we're not going to get any progress. it's going to have to happen to get something done. >> what realistically can the president do. realistically, i don't know if there's anything they can do. >> that's the stark reality of it, isn't it? >> it's not stark anymore. >> we've seen this repeatedly, we saw after newtown in 2013. president obama said something similar to what he said about politicizing. people should go out and vote. in 2014, the republican s won a

election. gun opponents are more active and more likely to donate. and all those things add up. the nra is a very powerful force. >> but is it really just the nra? or is it beyond that? is it just that americans are like -- are they that powerful or is it just americans are saying i like my gun laws the way they are. >> yes, i think that's part of it. >> the nr sa a big piece of it. and the public opinion shows that background checks had up to 90% support. it's hard to find any issue in america that's 90%. >> our polling shows the public is a little bit skeptical. if you expand background checks, it's necessarily going to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill or criminals. so you know, the public overall is kind of mixed on this. >> this is from huckabee.

obama is quick to political size this issue. for this president to make a political pronouncement is at best premature and at worst ignorantly inflammatory. obama can shamelessly try to exploit any tragedy he wants, but it's clear that gun-free zones are sitting duck zones. his passion is grossly misplaced into destroying the second amendment. >> hurricane joaquin is gaining strength. his next possible target, the u.s. is, getting ready. more data means more freedom to do..whatever. that's why at&t is giving you 50% more data. that's 15 gigs of data for the price of 10. because the more data you have, the better. and right now at at&t get $300 credit for every line you switch

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>> we are closely monitoring this major hurricane. a category four hurricane joaquin has just been situated across the bahamas. it's been lingering not very much. to the west about four to five miles an hour. but we think over the next 24 hours, this is going to start making its move. hopefully to the north.

so let's go ahead and show you what's going on. that is not it. this is another component to this. and that's an area of low pressure situated over the carolinas. this is going to produce unprecedented hateful. the computer models are all over the place suggesting that we will still watch this move out into the atlantaic ocean. the computer models are bringing the hurricane in towards the mid-atlantic as we go through the next 48 to 72 hours. let's go ahead and tell you what the impact is going to be. about 80 million people could be impacted by this hurricane. we will see historic flash flooding from the hurricane and

this area of low pressure that will develop along the carolinas. 10 to 15 inches of hateful in places like charleston and myrtle beach and north carolina. all the way up to new jersey where even the governor there says be prepared and be 'ware of what the situation is going to be calling for over the next four to five days. but we'll keep you updated and be here in the cnn weather center to bring you updated. isha, john, back to you guys. >> the father of one of the wounded victims says his daughter told him how the gunman walk into the classroom, shot her professor and then asked students to stand up if they're christians and then he shot them. police have not stated a clear motive as of now. ten people died in the attack. seven others were wounded. police say the 26-year-old gunman had body armor and a lot

of ammunition. he's now dead but it's not clear if he took his own life or if he was, in fact, shot by police. and i've been covering school shootings since columbine. and it's familiar. you can hear it in the voice with the president here today and a lot of anger. no doubt. and john, as you say, the president didn't hold back during a white house news conference on the shooting a little bit earlier. mr. obama la meanting that mass killings here in the united states. and blasted those who oppose more gun control legislation. thursday's news conference marks the 15th final during his presidency he's addressed gun violence. here's what he's had to say after each deadly incident. >> we've had to endure tragedies like this too many times. we come together filled with sorrow for the 13 americans that

we have lost. with gratitude for the lives that they led and with the determination to honor them through the work we carry on. i have come here tonight as an american, like all americans to pray with you today and will stand by you tomorrow. and the federal government stands ready to do whatever is necessary to bring whoever is responsible for this heinous crime to justice. >> all of us are heartbroken by what's happened and i offer the thoughts and prayers not only myself and michelle, but also of the country as a whole. >> and each time, i learn the news, i react not as a president, but as anybody else would as a parent. in the hard days to come, that community needs us to be at our best as americans and i will do everything in my power as

president to help. >> the lives that were taken from us were unique. the memories their loved ones carry are unique. and they will carry them and endure long after the news cameras are gone. >> any shooting is troubling. obviously this reopens the pain of what happened in ft. hood five years ago. the country has to do some soul searching about this. this is becoming the norm. and we take it for granted in ways that as a parent are terrifying to me. >> the good news is i'm confident in the outpouring of community and strength and fellowship and live across charleston today indicates the degree to which those old vestages of hatred can be overcome. >> at the top of the hour, we'll rerun in full the president's comments on this latest mass

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this is cnn breaking news. >> we continue to follow the breaking news this hour. a mass shooting in the u.s. state of oregon. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm george howell at cnn world headquarters in atlanta. >> hello. i'm john vause in roseburg, oregon. we will begin with the very latest in our rolling coverage of the mass shooting here in roseburg. it is 11:00 p.m. here right now in umpqua community college. we are learning disturbing new details about the gunman, the man behind the mass shooting here on campus. law enforcement officials tell cnn he was a 26-year-old man. he was well armed. he had body armor and enough ammunition for a prolonged gunfight with police. officials say he killed ten people when he opened fire on this rural campus on thursday morning. he is now dead, but it's not clear if he was shot by police or if he took his own life.

the douglas county sheriff says he will not be naming the gunman because the man does not deserve the publicity. seven people were wounded on this campus, and they have been treated at various medical centers, including the sacred heart medical center. and there has been some harrowing accounts. we are hearing from the survivors of this shooting, and we're also learning more about what happened on campus during this rampage by this gunman. hannah miles is a freshman. she was in a classroom not far from when the gunshots rang out. >> it was in the middle of class. i was taking notes. and all of the sudden there was this loud pop. and the only way i can describe it is it sounded like a ruler smacking against a chalk board. so i didn't really think it was like a gunshot because it didn't really sound like it. but it made everyone jump. we all jumped. and my teacher she is like whoa.

i hope everyone is all right in there, because we didn't know what was going on. and then we went back to take notes. it all happened so very fast. one of my classmates from the back had said why don't you go over there and see if they're all right. my teacher, miss sarah, i'll not go open the door. i'll knock. she knocked on the door and a yelled through the door, hey, serve okay over there. and as soon as she said that, multiple shots were fired. and when she turned and looked at the classroom, the look on her face was who fight. and that's when i knew something was wrong. and she looked at us. and it was -- i don't know. it's hard to explain. when she looked at us, she said we have to get out, now. and one of my other classmates jumped up and everybody out, come on, let's go. and we immediately began running. and still didn't know really what was going on, but i knew the look and the fear on my teacher's face that it was serious.

>> cnn's kyung lah is live for us at sacred heart medical center where many of the wound have had been treated. kyung, you have had a chance to speak to the relatives of at least one of the students wound during this rampage. the account this father heard from his daughter is harrowing to say the least. >> it's very chilling. she was actually inside the classroom where most of the students were killed. this is anna boylan. and you can see, she is 18 years old, so full of life, just in her fourth day of community college. she was sitting in the class. she told her father and her brother just before she went into spinal surgery what she saw. here is how her father explained what she told them. >> the gentleman was systematically -- >> he came in, right? >> he came in, and there were gunfire immediately and scattered the room, got everyone's attention.

he from what i understood what she said is he shot the professor point-blank, one shot, killed him. took him right out of it. and others had been injured. and then he -- this man had enough time. i don't know how much time elapsed before he was able to stand there and start asking people one by one what their religion was. are you a christian? he would ask them. and if you're a christian, stand up. and they would stand up. good, because you're a christian, you're going to see god in just about one second. and then he shot and killed them. and he kept going down the line doing this. to people. and how much time do you need, you know? and she said he had a handgun that wasn't a big rifle, assault rifle or anything like this. this was a single handgun that he had enough ammunition and enough time to drop the magazine out of it, put another one in and continue his thing. how does -- how does he have

that much time at a facility? >> dad, you're -- >> yeah. >> it's okay. >> i don't understand that. how he could have that much time to kill that many people. >> and you can hear the frustration from the father of anna boylan. she is inside this hospital tonight. so how does she survive? she told her father that she played dead, that the gunman walked up to her, pointed at her, said "blond girl in the black jacket" and she did not get up. we should also make clear she does not know, at least she didn't convey to her family why the gunman was asking people are you a christian. she doesn't know the motivation. we should also tell you, john, that she did come out of spinal surgery, and she is doing well. her family says they are very pleased. certainly she has a long road ahead, but she is doing well tonight. >> there were so many horrific

stories of students hiding under desks, behind school bags, drawing the curtains, locking the door, hoping the gunman didn't walk into their classroom. you mentioned that this young woman has undergone surgery. she is looking to be in pretty good condition relatively speaking. but what about the other people who were injure heard today, kyung? what's the latest on their condition? >> there is a total -- yeah, there is a total of three people. the people who are here are the most seriously injured. two are in critical, according to the hospital, and one is in serious. we're not exactly sure where anna falls on that scale. but two critical, one serious here. all are women. there are an additional ten being treated at mercy hospital in the town where you are. and those patients we don't have conditions on them. they are in various states, we understand. one thing we should point out though, john, this is where the most critically injured are being treated. the ones down where you are presumably doing a bit better. john?

>> kyung, thank you, kyung lah there. with the latest on those who have been wounded. and also that horrific account from that one young woman who was in the classroom when the gunman opened fire. thank you, kyung. barack obama addressed this nation yet again in the wake of another deadly shooting. the president was angry, frustrated, mostly because this is the 15th time since he was sworn into office that he has had to address this type of gun violence. >> there has been another mass shooting in america. this time in a community college in oregon. that means there are more american families, mom, dads, children whose lives have been changed forever. that means there is another community stunned with grief and communities across the country forced to relieve their own

anguish, and parents across the country who are scared because they know it might have been their families or their children. i've been to roseburg, oregon. they're really good people there. i want to thank all the first responders whose bravery likely saved some lives today. federal law enforcement has been on the scene in a supporting role, and we've offered to stay as help as much as roseburg needs for as long as they need. in the coming days, we'll learn about the victims. young men and women who were studying and learning and working hard, their eyes set on the future, their dreams on what they could make of their lives. and america will wrap everyone who is grieving with our prayers and our love. but as i said just a few months ago, and i said a few months

before that, and i said each time we see one of these mass shootings, our thoughts and prayers are not enough. it's not enough. it does not capture the heartache and grief and anger that we should feel. and it does nothing to prevent this carnage from being inflicted some place else in america. next week or a couple of months from now. we don't yet know why this individual did what he did. and it's fair to say that anybody who does this has a sickness in their minds. regardless of what they think

their motivations may be. but we are not the only country on earth that has people with mental illnesses or want to do harm to other people. we are the only advanced country on earth that sees these kinds of mass shootings every few months. you know, earlier this year i answered a question in an interview by saying the united states of america is the one advanced nation on earth in which we do not have sufficient common sense gun safety laws even in the face of repeated mass killings. and later that day there was a mass shooting in a movie heater in lafayette, louisiana. that day. somehow this has become routine.

the reporting is routine. my response here at this podium ends up being routine. the conversation in the aftermath of it, we've become numb to this. we talked about this after columbine and blacksburg, after tucson, after newtown, after aurore remarks after charleston. it cannot be this easy for somebody who wants to inflict harm on other people to get his or her hands on a gun. and what's become routine, of course, the response of those who oppose any kind of common sense gun legislation. right now i can imagine the press release is being cranked out.

we need more guns, fewer gun safety laws. does anybody really believe that? there are scores of responsible gunowners in this country. they know that's not true. we know because of the polling that says the majority of americans understand we should be changing these laws, including the majority of responsible law-abiding gunowners. there is a gun for roughly every man, woman and child in america. so how can you with a straight face make the argument that more guns will make us safer? we know that states with the most gun laws tend to have the fewest gun deaths. so the notion that gun laws

don't work or just will make it harder for law-abiding citizens and criminals will still get their guns, it's not borne out by the evidence. we know that other countries in response one mass shooting have been able to craft laws that almost eliminate mass shootings. friends of ours, allies of ours, great britain, australia, countries like ours. so we know there are ways to prevent it. and of course what is also routine is that somebody somewhere will comment and say obama politicized this issue. well, this is something we should politicize. it is relevant to our common

life together, to the body politic. i would ask news organizations, because i won't put these facts forward, have news organizations tally up the number of americans who have been killed through terrorist attacks over the last decade and the number of americans who have been killed by gun violence. and post those side by side on your news reports. this won't be information coming from me. it will be coming from you. we spent over a trillion dollars and passed countless laws and devote entire agencies to preventing terrorist attacks on our soil, and rightfully so. and yet we have a congress that explicitly blocks us from even collecting data on how we could potentially reduce gun deaths.

how can that be? this is a political choice that we make. to allow this to happen every few months in america. we collectively are answerable to those families who lose their loved ones because of our inaction. when americans are killed in mine disasters, we work to make mines safer. when americans are killed in floods and hurricanes, we make communities safer. when roads are unsafe, we fix them. to reduce auto fatalities. we have seat belt laws because we know it saves lives.

so the notion that gun violence is somehow different, that our freedom and our constitution prohibits any modest regulation of how we use a deadly weapon? when there are law-abiding gunowners all across the country who could hunt and protect their families and do everything they do under such regulations. it doesn't make sense. so tonight as those of us who are lucky enough to hug our kids a little close r are thinking

about the families who aren't so fortunate, i'd ask the american people to think about how they can get our government to change these laws. and to save lives. and to let young people grow up. and that will require a change of politics on this issue. and it will require that the american people individually, whether you are a democrat or a republican or an independent, when you decide to vote for somebody, are making a determination as to whether this cause of continuing death for innocent people should be a relevant factor in your decision. if you think this is a problem, then you should expect your elected officials to respect your views.

and i would particularly ask america's gunowners who are using those guns properly, safely, to hunt, for sport, for protecting their families, to think about whether your views are properly being represented by the organization that suggests it's speaking for you. and each time this happens, i'm going to bring this up. each time this happens, i am going to say that we can actually do something about it, but we're going to have to change our laws. and this is not something i can

do by myself. i've got to have a congress, and i've got to have state legislatures and governors who are willing to work with me on this. i hope and pray that i don't have to come out again during my tenure as president to offer my condolences to families in these circumstances. but based on my experience as president, i can't guarantee that. and that's terrible to say. and it can change. may god bless the memories of those who were killed today. may he bring comfort to their families. and courage to the injure as they fight their way back. and may he give us the strength

to come together and find the courage to change. thank you. >> president obama there addressing the nation earlier today. and george, he did mention australia in his speech, and that was a direct reference to the port arthur massacre when 35 people were killed on the island of tasmania. back then hundreds of thousands of australians took to the streets demanding tougher gun laws. it really is an open question here if anything will change after this shooting. george? >> and things did change in australia. the president in his speech, you heard him, you saw it, frustrated. visibly angry about the situation that as he points out continues to happen time after time after time. john vause live for us in oregon. john, thank you so much. during the president's news conference that you just heard in its entirety, he challenged news organizations to do some research to compare the numbers of americans killed in terror

attacks over the last decade to the numbers of americans killed by gun violence. and cnn looked into those numbers using data from the u.s. state department and the centers for disease control and prevention. here is what we found. since 2004, more than 300,000 americans have died by gun violence on u.s. soil. by comparison, 313 people died by terror attacks in the u.s. and outside the country. that last available data was from the year 2013. you're watching cnn newsroom after a mass shooting. we feel for the families that lost loved ones. and collectively, we ask the question what drives someone to mass murder? ahead we get some thoughts from a psychologist as cnn newsroom continues. take a look at these bbq best cracked pepper sauce... most ribs eaten while calf roping...

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hour. law enforcement sources have told cnn the gunman was a 26-year-old man. they say he shot and killed ten people, wounded seven others at the umpqua community campus right here. the gunman died after a shoot-out with police. it's not clear if the officers killed him or if he took his own life. the father of a wounded victim says the gunman asked students one by one if they were christians before shooting them. but authorities so far have not released a motive for this shooting. and that search, george, continues on. they have searched his apartment. we are slowly learning more details about the gunman, about the man who went on to this campus, heavily armed with body armor and a lot of ammunition. but as of now, the question of why is still is yet to be answered, george. >> and john, in the hours and days to come, we will slowly but surely learn the names of the victims in this tragedy. john vause on the ground for us

in oregon. >> in the meantime, families are dealing with grief and investigators continue their work to try to figure out a motive. joining me now is licensed psychologist dr. erik fisher to talk more about what happened in oregon. but let's start with the families. there are families in the state of oregon who will slowly learn some really terrible news. how do these families even begin to cope, make any sense out of such a senseless act? >> well, grief of any kind is difficult, whether it's expected or unexpected. but the loss of someone close to something so tragic, sometimes you look at the how could this have happened. you go from anger to rage to sadness to helplessness. what people want to do is try to find something to do that gives them purpose or gives them a sense of empowerment to work through this. and a lot of times in these situations you have people have experienced these tragedies do something positive, whether it's working for a nonprofit or creating a nonprofit, giving

back to the community. because the more that we empower ourselves in our tragic times in life, the more that we can find potentially a reason that matters, that makes that person's loss and their life significant to us. >> let's talk about the gunman. we've named him once before. no need to name him again. but what do investigators do to determine a motive there? >> well, i think we have to look at is we talked a lot about mental health. and mental health is a significant issue in many of these shootings. what i often go to is below mental health to the emotions. we have to look at how we use emotions in our culture. and we really don't understand them very well in our culture. i always teach that anger, rage and hatred are protective emotions. they protect our feelings of weakness. if you feel someone ostracized or lonely or isolated, often they feel unloved, abandoned, rejected. and that brings down their perception of power. they build up that feeling i want power and i'm going to take it from others because i don't believe i can get it myself.

so often they act out with rage is a way they want to take something back from somebody. if we look across to south carolina, tennessee, louisiana, virginia, and now oregon, we see a common thread of rage and hatred in each of these individuals who acted out so violently. so to me as a culture, while we have to work on mental health we also have to look at understanding the purpose of these emotions and how they're expressed and why were expressed almost as more importantly than looking at gun control, i believe. >> and dr. fisher, the president even pointing out this has become routine. dr. fisher, thank you so much for your insight on this. you're watching "cnn newsroom." we'll be right back after the break. ansdo..whatever. to that's why at&t is giving you 50% more data. that's 15 gigs of data for the price of 10. because the more data you have, the better. and right now at at&t get $300 credit for every line you switch

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is cnn breaking news. >> welcome back to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. we continue with our breaking news coverage. mass shooting in the u.s. state of oregon. i'm george howell at cnn world headquarters here in atlanta. >> and i'm john vause in roseburg, oregon. this is the latest that we have right now. authorities are saying it is unlikely they will release the names of all of the victims before friday there is a process in place here because this was a mass casualty event. it is a slow process of identifying all of those people who were killed. also, this is a small community just one coroner. so this process will take some time. ten people in all were killed. seven others were wounded when a gunman opened fire on the umpqua community college here. the shooter is also dead. although it's not clear if he took his own life or if he died in a shoot-out with police. law enforcement sources have told cnn he was a 26-year-old man, heavily armed, carrying

body armor. and the father of a wounded student says the gunman asked the students in her classroom if they were christians. he then shot them one by one. the gunman's father, though, has actually spoken out just a short time ago. he made a statement to reporters. this is some of what he had to say. >> i can't answer any questions right now. >> obviously it's been a devastating day. devastating for me and my family. all i ask is i know you guys are here to do your job. all i ask is you please respect our privacy. and so far you have done that. >> let's go live now to sara sidner who is outside the gunman's apartment not far from here. and sara, we just heard from the gunman's father, and it's also believed that the gunman's mother may in fact have been living in that apartment block as well where you are. >> yeah, there is a bit of confusion here because a lot of

people say they never really saw her or had a conversation. but suddenly they did see -- one of the neighbors saw a woman who they said they saw crying today in the afternoon a few hours after the shooting, and not just crying, but bawling is how the witness put it. she is a neighbor who lives in the same building as the shooter. they identified the shooter. well showed them a picture. is this the person that you have seen around the neighborhood and that lives near you? and they said yeah. that's him. but police have not identified him and have not said exactly what is going on inside of the apartment where they have been going in and out for the last few hours. the atf is here. the fbi is here. the sheriff's department is here. they are all trying to gather evidence in this case. what we can tell you is that we have talked to a couple of different neighbors here who have said that mercer was a quiet person. he kind of kept to himself.

they would see him kind of shuffling around here. but he wasn't an outgoing person that would talk to everybody. and they had few conversations with him. let me let you hear from one of the neighbors that we spoke with a little bit earlier this evening. now that you have heard what he is accused of, what do you think about the fact that you lived right down the hall? >> you know, it's crazy. it's just -- it goes to show you that you never know what is going through people's mind, what people -- what's bothering people, you know. i mean obviously anybody who does something like this is sick. i mean a sane person doesn't do this. i've lived in this area my whole life. and, you know, people here are, you know, everybody knows everybody. small town. i've coached youth sports in this town for several year. lived here my whole life. i know a lot of people, you know. and there is not going to be very many people who live in this community who aren't going

to be personally know someone personally affected by this tragedy. that's just the bottom line. everyone is affected. but i mean this is the type of community, it's a close-knit community. everybody comes together. and, i mean, everybody's got to know somebody. >> so he talked about that fact. and that bears true here. everyone we have spoken with can name someone who knew one of the victims or know once of the victims themselves. one of the things to note here. a lot of folks trying to figure out why exactly he chose to go to the community college. and there is a school not too far from here, much closer here, an elementary school. so he clearly bypassed that and seemed to be targeting this community college for some reason. we are about a mile away from where you are, john, at the community college. a lot of questions still unanswered tonight. but certainly this community is in mourning. john? >> yeah, the question of why this campus, why those people

were shot. the motive remains unclear. of course we are learning a lot more about the gunman and what he may or may not have done on that campus just earlier today. sara, thank you very much. sara sidner live for us there in winchester, oregon. and george, of course that is the issue here now for investigators. they are trying to piece together exactly what drove this gunman to walk on to this campus with four gun, three handguns and a rifle and then open fire, george. >> so many questions about why this happened. john vause live for us in oregon. john, thank you so much. other news we are following around the world this day, russian air strikes in syria. the russian president says civilians were not hurt by the air operations this week, but a different story from opposition officials in the country. they say at least 36 civilians were killed. russia has been clear in its intent to support syrian president bashar al assad. the country has been accused of using the strikes to target anti-assad groups.

>> translator: as to different information in the media saying that there are victims among the civilians, we are ready for these informational attacks. i am drawing your attention to the fact that the first information about victims among the civilian population appeared before our planes were in the air. >> it's a complex situation. let's go straight to moscow. cnn's phil black standing by live for us following developments. phil, good to have you with us. russia has asserted that it is doing the exact same thing that coalition forces are doing, that it's targeting terrorist groups. but we now know that their scope goes beyond just isis. what more can you tell us? >> george, the russian view which you touched on there and we heard this from sergey lavrov, don't see eye to eye on who they are target that russia like the united states in its coalition are targeting isis and

other terrorist groups. now when pushed on what other terrorist groups, he was pretty vague. this is when he said well, if it looks like, acts likes, walks like a terrorist, fights like a terrorist, then it's a terrorist. but the united states believes based upon the locations of the russian strikes so far that russia is clearly targeting anyone that is perceived to be a threat or is challenging the syrian regime of bashar al assad. and the u.s. says it is concerned than because some of these other rebel opposition groups that are on one hand fighting syrian government forces, they are also fighting isis as well. so there is a u.s. concern that that is in effect helping isis. but also, some of these syrian rebel opposition groups are being helped by the united states, trained and equipped. they are effectively u.s. allies. so that raises the possibility that russia's action, is it directly challenging even harming u.s. policy and u.s. interests within syria itself. but the russian view is that

they are purely going after terrorists. and they openly say that they are supporting the syrian government and its forces there in the fight against the terrorist groups because they believe that the syrian government and its military are best placed ultimately to stop terrorist groups from overrunning the country, george. >> phil, vladimir putin there is not in moscow today. in fact, he is in france to meet up for talks on ukraine. but i would surmise that the syria issue is sure to come up. >> yeah, likely. so he'll be traveling to paris for talks with french president francois hollande. and he'll also meet the german chancellor angela merkel and petro poroshenko. ukraine, the other conflict that has kept russia frozen out of international affairs really for more than a year now before it's been able to reassert itself through this recent action in syria. but you have to think it is likely that yes, the syrian issue will be raised. we'll be watching that to see

what comment, if any president putin or those other world leaders make on that issue as well, george. >> cnn's phil black live for us in moscow at this hour. phil, thank you so much for your reporting. you're watching "cnn newsroom." still to come this hour, hurricane joaquin. it is gang strength, and people in the u.s., they're getting ready if the storm turns their way. when you're not confident your company's data is secure, the possibility of a breach can quickly become the only thing you think about. that's where at&t can help. at at&t we monitor our network traffic so we can see things others can't. mitigating risks across your business. leaving you free to focus on what matters most. i will take beauty into my own hands...where it belongs. olay regenerist. it regenerates surface cells.

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welcome back to cnn's breaking news coverage. here is the very latest on the deadly shooting at umpqua community college in roseburg, oregon. authority says that they will release the victims' names friday morning. ten people were killed thursday morning on campus. seven were wounded after a gunman opened fire. sources tell cnn that the gunman is a 26-year-old man. he died after a shoot-out with officers, though it is not clear if police killed him or if he killed himself.

following hurricane joaquin now. a major category 4 storm that is strengthening at this point. karen maginnis? >> yes, and it is going to be a huge impact. now the computer molds are all over the place. i'll show you that in just one second. but this is a monster hurricane. and we will associate it with what happened with hurricane sandy back in 2012 that claimed just about 300 lives. this is the latest information regarding hurricane joaquin, category 4 as you just heard george say. it has been lingering across the bahamas for quite some time now. let's go ahead and show you the video that we have from there all across the bahamas, they are seeing high wind, very heavy downpours between 12 and 18 inches of rainfall. we mention the inches of rainfall across that region because that is what we're looking at in some sections of the northeastern united states. not necessarily associated with

the hurricane. but we think that what is going to happen with this, and there you can see kind of all the winds wrapped tightly around the center, the core of this hurricane, the supporting winds of 130 miles per hour, about 215 kilometers per hour. the about a coast, eleuthera, the berry island, the turks and caicos. 12 to 18 inches possible. but as we go through time, we're expecting across the deep south that this in combination with an area of low pressure across the southeast is going to enhance the moisture across the carolinas. especially south carolina. it's an area i know very well. i was born there. i lived there for years. i lived at the coast. and it's very vulnerable. now what you're looking at is a spaghetti models. there are a number of them. just about two dozen of them. and that is joaquin. this is what we're expecting. not all of them in agreement. it had been close to the shore, moving out, and now there are a couple of outliers that suggest

that maybe it could impact the midatlantic coast as we go into the next couple of days. well, we think that in the next 24 hours, this will start to move more towards the north. as it does, it's going to take a couple of days. so beyond that two-day time period, we will see the interaction between this core area of low pressure and hurricane joaquin. and it is vital that you prepare right now across midatlantic. but if you live anywhere from the appalachians up towards new england, be aware. this is an extremely dangerous situation. george? back to you. >> karen, thank you so much. you're watching "cnn newsroom." still to come this hour we have the latest on the shooting in oregon just ahead. stay with us. buddy- nice place, nice car what happened?

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you're watching cnn's continuing coverage of breaking news in the state of oregon, a deadly shooting on a college campus there. i'm george howell at the cnn center in atlanta. >> i'm john vause in roseburg, oregon. this is what we know at this hour about the shooting here in roseburg. authority says they will not be releasing the names of the victims before friday. ten people were killed thursday

morning at umpqua community college, and seven were wounded when the gunman opened fire. sources have told cnn the gunman is a 26-year-old man. he had enough ammunition for a prolonged gunfight. he died after a shoot-out with police officers. it's unclear if he was killed by police or if he took his own life. george? >> i can heardly imagine or understand the grief that many of those families are going to be dealing with in the hours and days to come. john vause, thank you so much. news of the shooting quickly reached the 2016 presidential campaign trail. democrat candidate hillary clinton addressed the tragedy during an event in the state of massachusetts. listen. >> it's just beyond my comprehension that we are seeing these mass murders happen again and again and again. and as i have said, we have got to get the political will to do everything we can to keep people safe, you know. i know there is a way to have

sensible gun control measures that help prevent violence, prevent guns from getting into the wrong hands, and save lives. and i am committed to doing everything i can to achieve that. >> and clinton's rival, democratic candidate can bernie sanders sent out a tweet saying, quote, as a nation, we must do everything we can to put an end to this awful epidemic of senseless slaughter. republican candidates also reacting. donald trump tweeted his thoughts, saying, quote, my warmest condolences to the families of the horrible roseburg oregon shootings. and jeb bush saying the following, quote, appreciate for the umpqua community college, the victims and the families impacted by this senseless tragedy. we thank you for watching this hour of "cnn newsroom." i'm george howell at the cnn center in atlanta.

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this is cnn breaking news. >> we continue to follow the breaking news this hour. a mass shooting in the u.s. state of oregon. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm george howell at cnn world headquarters in atlanta. >> hello. i'm john vause in roseburg, oregon. we will continue with our breaking news coverage. and police here say we may find out later today the names of the victims of those who were shot here at the umpqua community college campus. a 26-year-old gunman opened fire on thursday morning. we still do not know why. he died later, but it's not clear if he was shot by police or if he took his own life. one student spoke with our affiliate, kptv about what happened. >> i was actually in the building or in the classroom

right next door to where the scene, where the shooter supposedly shot some students. and i was, you know, just in class. and i heard a popping noise, almost like a balloon popping when you have too much air. so i knew something wasn't right. so i get down. we are all the students in the classroom got down underneath the tables. and a lady went to go see, one of my fellow classmates went to go see what was going on. and she opened the door, and unfortunately the gunman shot her. as of right now i don't know what her situation is right now. but then we locked the doors, turned off the lights. and we were all pretty much in panic mode right there. we called 911 and called our parents, our loved ones. >> as we learn more about the gunman, the 26-year-old man who was heavily armed, we have heard just a short time ago from his father who spoke to reporters in los angeles.

>> i won't answer any questions right now? >> obviously it's been a devastating day. devastating for me and my family. all i ask, i know you guys are here to do your job. all i ask for is you respect our privacy. and so far you have done that. >> and after this mass shooting, the u.s. president barack obama addressed the nation. he was frustrated, and he was angry. and he is pushing for tougher gun laws. but the president knows that his critics will accuse him of politicizing this tragedy. >> somehow this has become routine. the reporting is routine. my response here at this podium ends up being routine. the conversation in the aftermath of it, we've become numb to this. we talked about this after

columbine and blacksburg, after tucson, after newtown, after aurora, after charleston. it cannot be this easy for somebody who wants to inflict harm on other people to get his or her hands on a gun. and what's become routine, of course, the response of those who oppose any kind of common sense gun legislation. right now i can imagine the press release is being cranked out. >> we need more guns, they'll argue, fewer gun safety laws. does anybody really believe that? >> just a few hours ago it's believed police raided the

gunman's apartment. it's not far from here. the area was sealed off. and at this hour we find sara sidner there live. and sara, can you describe the scene? there must have been some concern there because of the way police went. in they seemed to be heavily armed. and there was real concern i suppose that the apartment could have been booby-trapped in some way? >> the police aren't saying exactly what their concerns were, but there were definitely serious concerns about the safety of officers going into the apartment because they came in, in full gear. well talked to some of the neighbors who say they saw some of the s.w.a.t. team crouched down in the bushes as they were going toward the apartment. they were wearing full body gear, those members of the s.w.a.t. team. certainly they were worried that there may have been something that could put them or the neighbors in danger. they did clear everybody out at some point in the apartment complex. and have been here throughout the night. now the crime scene tape has just gone down. so they are clearing much of the

scene. they had people kind of pushed back from the building, which is just behind me. but there are going to be as we're told two deputies who stay here throughout the night and overnight. what we can tell you is we have been talking to neighbors. and we talked to some of the neighbors who lived right next door to the shooter. and they told us that he was very quiet, that they pretty much would see him every now and then. he didn't engage that much. every now and then they would see him shuffling about here in the neighborhood. but that they did notice something that was different today. they noticed a woman who they believe to be his mother. but they're not 100% sure. she was very, very emotional a few hours after the shooting. >> she was bawling. and she looked really upset. and i mean, i can't blame her. i mean, this is insane.

i just -- my heart guess out to her and all the people there. >> that was bronte hart. she is one of the neighbors here, living here with her father, her husband and her baby, who is a few months old. she said that, you know, it's usually fairly quiet, and that she actually hadn't really ever seen the woman who she saw crying, but she did notice her talking with authorities. and at some point, she says she grabbed a couple of bags and she left the area. so right now the scene has definitely calmed down. there were fbi, atf and sheriff's deputies who have been here for several hours. they are mostly gone, except for two deputies we understand will be here throughout the night. john? >> and sara, do we know if they actually learned anything about the gunman? did they find any evidence inside his apartment? >> they are not giving any details. they will not even confirm that they believe that this is the

apartment of the shooter. what they have said is that any details that will be coming out will be coming out some time tomorrow, if they do give details about what is happening here. but they are mum. they're not talking of anything about it. however, we did notice what appeared to be a van that was somewhere where you would bring in evidence, an evidence van that pulled up at some point. but really, the scene has calmed down quite a bit here. it looks like that there is just a bit of mopping up. we saw a few things being taken out of an apartment. we couldn't quite see what those were because it was behind the bushes. but we did notice deputies taking some things out. at this point, everyone in the neighborhood is just watching and waiting. a lot of people have decided to stay elsewhere because they lived in the building where this happened. stay elsewhere because this has been cordoned off for quite some time this evening. john? >> so do we know how long the gunman had actually lived in that building or had in fact lived in the area?

>> no. we do not know the answer to that. the neighbors that we talked to had only been here for about six months. and they said they didn't notice anyone moving in or out, and everyone had been here for at least that long. but there is no indication yet just how long he may have been living here. we also know that some people have kind of bumped into him throughout the time and seen him walking around. and they said that look, he really didn't engage that much. he didn't really talk to folks that much. so it was kind of hard for them to get to know him, so to speak. but every now and then he would go over and pet someone's dog or say hello. but mostly kept to himself, john. >> of course the question everybody would like to know is why he chose this campus to go on a shooting rampage. why he decided to take the lives of ten people here. sara sidner live for us this hour, thank you. normally when we speak to our military analyst rick francona, it's about syria and the middle east. but rick is actually from this

part of the world. and he knows it well. and i spoke to him a short time ago about oregon's gun laws and just how this community will cope with this tragedy. >> it's just like such a shock wai wave has gone through here because this is not why people live here. this is a small rural community. serves a large area. there is a v.a. the change in the economy is one of the reasons this campus is here. it's helping people retrain into other things. it's an integral part. when something like this happens on campus, it affects everybody in town. the look on people's face, utter shock. this is a strong community. i think they'll come out of this okay. but it's going to take a long time. one to go through the grieving process, put their lives back together. but in the end you will see them come back. just like other communities in the united states have reacted to these things, virginia tech, marshall. >> we are hearing from a number

of people that the gunman called out people, asked them if they were christian, asked them to stand up, and then shot them. when you hear that kind of thing happen hearing on a campus. it's horrific. it's terrifying. these things -- well, they're not meant to happen here. >> they don't happen here. that's why a lot of people live here. that's why the people came here so they don't have to put up with the outside world. unfortunately, that outside world came to roseburg today. >> so when we look at this community, this is a unique college you. touched on it before. the average age is 38? >> 38. >> a lot of people go there to retrain, to try to get new jobs, to basically start a new life. and that is a place where so many lives ended. i just really -- want to get a handle on how these people will get through this. and the other question too is this is a campus which is actually discussed the entire issue of having security guards who are armed on campus. because this is meant to be a gun-free zone, right? >> right there. has been a lot of discussion today about the gaughan-free

zone. was it? was it not? oregon law is very tricky. technically, it's a gun-free zone. they had armed guards. so this is going to bring out a reassessment of the security in this area. because everybody thought this is such a safe area. the guards were more of a watch to make sure things were okay. no one realized we were going have to have a gun battle on this campus. >> put your military hat on quickly. how much of a soft target? thinking campus in particular. if you look at the way it's built, it's built in a circle there are parking lots all the way around it. no gates. perfectly open. i have been on the campus many times. drive up, park your car, you can walk through it. never meant to be secured. it was supposed to be an open environment. >> rick francona speaking with me a short time ago. a short break on cnn. when we come back, more on our continuing coverage of the shooting here on the college campus, including more on president barack obama's angry and frustrated reaction to yet

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around the world. i'm john vause in roseburg, oregon, where law enforcement sources have told us the gunman who opened fire on this college campus is a 26-year-old man. he came here heavily armed, opened fire and killed ten people and wounded seven others, some of them critically. investigators say the gunman had body armor, enough ammunition for a prolonged gunfight. he died after a shoot-out with police. it's not clear, though, if they killed him or if he killed himself. the douglas county sheriff says he wants the focus now to be on the victims. >> let me be very clear. i will not name the shooter. i will not give him the credit he probably sought prior to this horrific and cowardly act. media will get the name confirmed in time. but you will never hear me mention his name.

>> and authorities say they should release the names of the victims some time on friday, maybe later. meantime, hundreds of people gathered for a candlelight vigil service in a park not far from this campus. we should note this is a small community, just 22,000 people live here. and this community college is central to life here. so many people attend this college. they come here for retraining. the average age of the students here is 38. george? >> john, a small community. but looking at that video a moment ago with all the candles, so many candles. people coming together in grief from what happened in oregon. john vause on the ground for us there. john, thank you so much. the u.s. president barack obama was visibly angry, and his voice sad. you could see his sadness as he talked about this shooting during a white house news conference. at this same event on thursday,

he asked news organizations to do some research, to compare the numbers of americans killed in terror attacks over the last decade to the number of americans killed by gun violence. the point mr. obama presumably wants to make is that far more americans die from gun related incidents than terror attacks. a point that supports his desire for new gun control laws. cnn looked into the numbers using data from the u.s. state department and from the centers for disease control. and here is what we found. since 2004, more than 300,000 americans have died by gun violence on u.s. soil. during that same time period, 313 people have died in terror attacks in the u.s. and outside the country. the last available data was from the year 2013. joining us now to talk more about this is arthur roderick. he is a cnn law enforcement analyst and former assistant director of the u.s. marshall's

office. arthur, thank you so much for taking time to chat with us about this. so looking at the overall situation here and the law enforcement response, what are your thoughts? >> well, george, this is actually called a mass casualty event or incident. as you heard mentioned in previous press conferences, and i think what you see here is a classic response to these types of incidents where law enforcement now goes immediately in and confronts the active shooter. where in previous years, 10, 15 years ago, you would actually set up a perimeter and call in the tactical unit. a lot of lives were lost in that we learned from that. unfortunately, we've had multiple shootings over the years. and we have now learned that actually going in and confronting the shooter right away saves a lot of lives. >> again, the strategy is to go in and take the shooter out directly? >> correct, exactly, to stop the threat. whether that's either using deadly force or using some type of physical force.

generally, in these types of instance, it's going to be deadly force. and that's exactly what happened in this particular instance. >> and talk to us about what are you supposed to do? if you find yourself caught in a situation like this where these students, you know, they were going about their regular day, and all of the sudden they had to take cover. what is a person to do? >> i mean, the biggest thing right now is sheltering in place. finding a room that you can lock the door and keep very, very quiet. because an individual in this type of heightened state that is carrying the weapons that he carried, a rifle and three handguns obviously has a lot of ammunition. is going to go towards where he hears noise, where he hears screams. so you just have to hunker down wherever you are, find a quiet place, lock the door, and then just stay put until law enforcement comes around and clears your particular area. >> investigators at this point, arthur, they are not mentioning the names of the deceased. that's part of the process obviously to release these names

slowly as they learn more information. but talk to us from a law enforcement standpoint about what happens next with the investigation. how do investigators even begin to try to understand the motive behind this deranged act? >> yeah, george, obviously in this particular case, we have the shooter who is dead. so now it's just a matter of piecing together this individual's life from the minute he was born on this earth to figure out where he came from. look at all the social media sites. talk to family, friends. and, you know, that's another case here. we've heard different reports. i understand in the fog of war, initially the reports that come out are generally either very sketchy or completely incorrect. in this particular case, i think he's got to have some type of tie to that community. and i know that hasn't been confirmed yet. but i would find it highly unusual if he didn't have a tie to this community either through family members or a girlfriend or some relationship that he had in that particular community.

>> investigators are certainly digging into the case and many families are mourning. senseless loss arthur roderick. thank you so much for taking time with us. >> thank you. hurricane joaquin. it is now a category 4 storm. and now we know that schools in the bahamas are closed today as that hurricane barrels through. it's coming up heavy rain on the islands right now, sending 2 to 3 feet or roughly 1 meter of water into the roads there. u.s. could be next. south carolina, virginia, and new jersey have already declared states of emergency in preparation for the heavy rain later this week. >> nyc is ready. that is the important point here. new york city is ready. >> we will have flooding. we will see trees down. well will see power lost. our message to everybody in the commonwealth is be prepared. >> while we're hoping for the

best, we're preparing for the worst. >> meteorologist karen maginnis joining us now live. and even governor chris christie tweeted at one point i need you not to panic. but they're prepared, they say. what will the storm do to the east coast? >> it looks as if most of the computer models are still taking it offshore. but the level of uncertainty with hurricane joaquin is high, because we're all over the place as far as those computer models are concerned. and we rely on those. but they input different data. and because of that, we get varying degrees of certainty. but right now i can honestly say we're not sure beyond that 24 and 48-hour time period what the system is going to do. right now 215 kilometer per hour winds. 130 miles per hour. category 4. it has been languishing across the bahamas. well, what can we expect? let's go ahead and show you this.

the core of the system has been influencing the turks caicos, eleuthera, the barry islands, the grand alabama island and it is slowly going to make its way, pull away from the bahamas. but not before dropping between 12 and 18 inches of rainfall. that's where you see that white shaded area in excess of 500 millimeters in some areas. well then what beyond that time period? we are occasionally trying to make that correlation with what happened with sandy, because we don't know exactly what is going to happen. here we can see what is happening with joaquin. the computer models have kind of all spread out. a coupe of them take it in toward the midatlantic coast right here across coastal sections of the carolinas. if you remember sandy back in 2012, it was october. it was a late system. it was offshore, offshore, offshore. and then it made the turn towards the coast. so even the best of planning is still going to have that certain level of uncertainty.

we've got a deep area of low pressure across the deep south. this continues to kind of tap the gulf moisture, tap the atlantic moisture, and tap the moisture from hurricane joaquin. so that's why places already in south carolina, they're seeing record rainfall. now, and we're not even hardly the life span of the system yet. but that enhanced area of low pressure is just going to languish across the southeast. so if you had plans to go to charleston or myrtle beach or into nags head or into wilmington, this is not going to be the weekend to do that. the next several days, we're looking at the impact. downed trees, downed power lines, rip current. we're looking at serious, serious flooding associated with this. bluffton in south carolina, that is in the vicinity of hilton head. lots of people know this area because it is very famous for its golf courses and for its resort living. flash flooding in clemson. a lot of people know clemson.

the university in upstate south carolina. i went to the other one, university of south carolina. all the way up and down from the highlands, from the midlands area, into the low lands, the low country of south carolina. that's where you're looking at significant rainfall. so you need to be prepared. and it's not necessarily just going to be the impact from hurricane joaquin, even though now suggestions are it's going to move a little farther east, stay offshore. but it's going to be enhanced moisture from the area of low pressure. so from the carolina, all the way up to new england in places like atlantic city. also for washington, d.c. into newport news, extending up towards boston. you have to be aware of what is going to happen here over the next several days. and george, i can't emphasize this enough there are about 80 million people that could feel the effects of this over the next few days.

not just one or two days. five days from now. >> you know, i think back to covering hurricane sandy. i was on the shore there's of the outer banks. and i remember there even before the storm got close to land, you could feel the winds, the rain. it was all very intense. so you're right. people do need to prepare. >> scary. >> thank you so much. we continue with the breaking news coverage here on cnn. this campus shooting in the u.s. state of oregon. just ahead, we will talk with a former federal investigator about how agents are looking for clues in a case like this. stay with us.

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we continue with our breaking news coverage here on cnn. a mass shooting in the u.s. state of oregon. i'm george howell at cnn world headquarters in atlanta. for the very latest, let's get to my colleague, anchor john vause on the ground for us this hour in oregon. john? >> well, george, we are expecting another briefing here from police in oregon at 10:00 a.m. local time. that's about nine and a half hours from now where we're hoping to learn more detailing about a motive as to why this gunman opened fire on the campus. in the meantime, we have heard from the gunman's father. he did speak to reporters just a few hours ago. >> answer any questions right now? >> obviously it's been a devastating day. devastating for me and my family. so all i ask is i know you guys are here 20 do your job. all i ask is please just respect our privacy. and so far you have done that. >> now police say the 26-year-old gunman opened fire

here, killing ten people, wounding seven others. he is now dead, although it's not clear if he died in a police shoot-out or if he took his own life. now police have not stated a clear motive of yet another mass shooting here in the united states. but president obama did address the nation. he was clearly angry and frustrated. >> you know, earlier this year i answered a question in an interview by saying the united states of america is the one advanced nation on earth in which we do not have sufficient common sense gun safety laws even in the face of repeated mass killings. and later that day there was a mass shooting. >> now one student spoke to our affiliate koin about this shooting. she said her teacher was afraid to open the door once she heard those gunshots ring out.

>> opened the door, and she yelled through the door and she said hey, is everyone okay over there. and as soon as she said that, multiple shots were fired. and when she turned and she looked at the classroom, the look on her face was horrifying. and that's when i knew something was wrong. and she looked at us. and it was -- i don't know. it's hard to explain. when she looked at us, she said we have to get out, now. and one of my other classmates jumped up and everybody out, come on, let's go. and we immediately began running. and still didn't know really what was going on, but i knew the look and the fear on my teacher's face that it was serious. >> now members of congress, presidential candidates, they've all stone out all spoken out on this. they have all offered their condolences to the victims. here is oregon's governor kay brown. >> facts are still emerging. we know now there were casualties and confirmed

injuries. our top priority now is the medical treatment for victims and the security of the campus. we have confirmation that the shooter is deceased. our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families. we are holding the community of douglas county in our hearts today. >> now thursday here life began on this campus like pretty much any other day. but then the horror began to unfold. and as isha sesay reports, the first indication that something was wrong, it all began with a flood of 911 calls. >> reporter: 10:38 a.m. thursday morning, the first calls come into authorities. >> active shooter at ucc, 1140 college road. >> somebody is outside one of the doors shooting through the door. we do have one female that has been shot at this time. >> reporter: within minutes, law enforcement is on the scene.

>> exchanging shots with him. he is in a classroom. >> exchanging gunshots right now with a male. he is in a classroom on the southeast side of snyder haul a. >> just confirmed report that he has a long gaul. >> we now know the shooter is a 26-year-old male and has four guns according to law enforcement official. >> i heard a loud bang. there were a couple of girls rung, like sprinting away from the building. and i heard screaming after that first gunshot. and i looked out and i saw the people running, and i said to the teacher we need to get out of here right now. >> dispatch as many ambulances as possible to this incident. we have upward of 20 victims. >> reporter: and then police are able to stop the gunman. >> officers from around the county immediately responded to the college. and upon arriving there, they located the shooter in one of the buildings. officers engaged that suspect. there was an exchange of

gunfire. the shooter is deceased. >> reporter: in the aftermath of the massacre, law enforcement are searching for any warning signs. isha sesay, cnn, los angeles. >> and george, we're only learning now what happened during that shooting on campus. there is this disturbing report that we're hearing from the father one of the victims. she told him that the gunman went into one of the classrooms, asked if the students were christians, told them to stand up and then he shot them. that's one of the harrowing stories that we've started to hear, george. >> john vause on the ground for us in oregon. john, thank you. once again, the topic of gun control is front and center. and joining us now to talk more about this is matt horace. he is a former atf executive and the senior vice president of fjc security services. thank you so much for taking time with us. so you used to work there in the west coast in the seattle area. i used to work out there too.

>> sure. >> you know that there really is a divide when it comes to this topic. many people who are really against guns, but also there are many pro-gun people in the rural areas. when this issue comes up, you know, and you heard what the president had to say with it, he is frustrated that nothing happens. >> well, you know, i really believe that at some point if we're going to change the narrative we have to change the dialogue. and the dialogue has to be consistent. it has to be up-front, and it has to be enduring, and not waiting for the next incident to happen. every two to three weeks now in the united states we have an active shooter incident normally involving mass casualties. but then remember, we also have the violence in our urban cities that the chiefs of police talk about so often -- chicago, philadelphia, new york, d.c. the whole entire gun issue should be put front and center. and hopefully the president's plea will fall on some listening ears. >> and the douglas county sheriff himself john hanlin has his own opinions on gun control.

>> sure. i tell you what. my own experience, having worked in the great northwest and the rocky mountain region, those are areas that are generally very pro-gun. and that does not disinclude law enforcement executives and officials. >> like this sheriff? >> like this sheriff, absolutely. it doesn't mean that they're not for strengthening laws to keep criminals off the streets and keeping guns out thoofnof the hf criminals. but that also not against tightening legislation for criminals to be able to own guns. >> this investigation is just beginning. obviously, we still have an active crime scene where it occurred. then there is a lot of background that needs to be done. the firearms need to be traced. we need to determine what happened to the guns between the time the suspect possessed them and when they were legally purchased. >> from the terms of investigators trying to determine the motive, it is something they can really ever

know or ascertain? >> well, at this point, there going to go back and they're going to examine every single facet of his life to try to determine what he was reading, who he was spending time with, what he was espousing, what he was put organize communicating on social media. and we're going to have to try to determine what the motive may have been. and shortly, soon down the line, we will determine it. was ate relationship? was it multiple relationships? was it something he was reading? you know, again, we're at this area of murder, mayhem and manifestos. and it's unfortunate. >> matt, you saw how the investigator, how the first responders, rather, they got into the scene quickly. talk to us about that. >> the protocols have changed over the past ten to 15 years. >> now it's about going in and taking the shooter out as quickly as possible. >> it's not about taking the shooter. it's addressing the threat. whether it's one shooters, two, three, four, we have to address the threat. identify the threat and address it. in most cases these individuals are prepared to die. they know that they're not going to win a gun battle with police once we put the array of

resources that we can on these scenes. that's exactly what you saw happen tonight. >> matt, what are people supposed to do? you're just going about your regular day. these students who are in classrooms, at that university, doing what they regularly do, then they find themselves in this terrible situation. what do you do? what is the first step to protect yourself? >> well, people have to be aware. i know from my space in the security industry, we give training on active shooter drills. people have to be aware. shelter in place. get to an area where people can't find you. be very quiet. i heard a woman on the interview tonight say she actually turned her cell phone from ring to silent because she didn't want someone to hear her. we've been through this so many times now that people are getting trained mentally on how to respond, how to react when they hear those gunshots go off. >> it's good to get the insight from a former atf executive, matt horace. thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. >> the news continues here on cnn newsroom. russian president vladimir putin

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welcome back to "cnn newsroom." other news that we're following from around the world, russia's president vladimir putin defending his country's air strikes in syria. mr. putin says civilians were not hurt by russia's air operation this week, despite what some media outlets are reporting. opposition officials in that country say at least 36 civilians were killed. russia has been clear in its intent to support syrian president bashar al assad. the country has been accused of using the strikes to target anti-assad groups. let's go straight to moscow now. cnn's phil black standing by live for us following this developing story. phil, good to have you with us. russia has asserted that it is doing the exact same thing that the coalition forces are doing,

that it's targeting terrorist groups. but now we know that their scope goes beyond just isis. what more can you tell us? using the term isis and other terrorist groups. but the criticism from that international coalition led by the united states is that no, that is not the case. based upon the areas they believe that russia has been striking so far. just today now a statement from the turkish foreign ministry, which it says is a joint statement on behalf of all the members of the international coalition against isis. so countries including the united states, the uk, germany, france, saudi arabia, expressing deep concern about these russian strikes, calling on them to stop because these countries, it says believes that russia is striking other opposition groups, not isis. and the result is civilian casualties, not any damage or

degrading of isis' ability in syria itself. now russia, the russian government as we've been saying has been dismissing these sorts of claims. claims about civilian casualty, claims about just who they're going after. the russian view is that they are going after terrorists, only terrorists. and they are not concerned necessarily about other opposition groups, although they are not being particularly specific either in saying just which groups they are going after. but they say they are doing this. they say they are openly supporting the government of bashar al assad and its military forces because they believe his military forces, his government remain the best obstacle really to allowing terrorist groups to overrun the rest of the country as well, george. >> phil, just briefly, the russian president is in france today for talks on ukraine. but i would surmise that the syria issue comes up in those

talks. >> you would certainly expect so, yes. vladimir putin traveling to paris today for talks with the french president francois hollande as well as german chancellor angela merkel and the ukrainian president petro poroshenko. ukraine is the primary reason the talks are taking place. but very likely syria will be raised as well. and we'll be looking to see what comments if any vladimir putin makes about that issue while he is there, george. >> cnn's phil black live for us in moscow. phil, thank you so much for your reporting. and as phil mentioned, mr. putin along with the leaders from ukraine, germany and france are all set to meet up in paris in a few hours to discuss the fighting in eastern ukraine. ukraine and pro-russian separatists initial lly agreed a ceasefire in september of last year, but it has failed to hold. more than 6,000 people have been killed since the conflict began early last year. you're watching "cnn newsroom" and our breaking news coverage of the school shooting in roseburg, oregon continues. exactly what we're learning

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welcome back. as we continue with our breaking news coverage, a mass shooting in the u.s. state of oregon. i'm george howell at cnn world headquarters in atlanta. for the very latest on this story, let's go straight to my colleague, anchor john vause, on the ground for us this hour in oregon. john? >> well, george, authorities here say they may start to release some of the names of those who were shot and killed here on campus later on friday. they were gunned down by a 26-year-old man who opened fire on thursday morning. he died later after a shoot-out with police. but it's not clear if he was killed by those police officers or if he in fact took his own life. seven other people were wounded in the attack. three are in a critical condition. the gunman's father has also spoken out. he talked to reporters outside his home. he said it has been a devastating day, and he asked for privacy.

the u.s. president, barack obama, reacted with anger and frustration to yet another mass shooting here on u.s. soil. and take a look at this photograph issued by the white house. the president there watching the coverage of this shooting in oregon. the frustration etched on his face. and at a press conference later, he lamented that mass killings have become routine in the u.s., and he called for stronger gun control. this was the 15th time during his presidency that he has addressed gun violence. we look back now at what he has said after each deadly incident. >> communities have had to endure tragedies like this too many times. >> we come together filled with sorrow for the 13 americans that we have lost. with gratitude for the lives that they led and with a determination to honor them through the work we carry on. >> i have come here tonight as

an american who like all americans to pray with you today and will stand by you tomorrow. >> and the federal government stands ready to do whatever is necessary to bring whoever is responsible for this heinous crime to justice. >> all of us are heartbroken by what has happened. and i offered the thoughts and prayers not only for myself and michelle, but also for the country as a whole. >> and each time i learn the news, i react not as a president but as anybody else would, as a parent. and n the hard days to come, that community needs us to be at our best as americans, and i will do everything in my power as president to help. >> the lives that were taken from us were unique. the memories their loved ones carry are unique. and they will carry them and

endure long after the news cameras are gone. >> any shooting is troubling. obviously, this reopens the pain of what happened at fort hood five years ago. >> the country has to do some soul-searching about this. this is becoming the norm. and we take it for granted in ways that as a parent are terrifying to me. >> the good news is i am confident that the outpouring of unity and strength and fellowship and love across charleston today indicates the degree to which those old vestiges of hatred can be overcome. >> and george, you know, i've covered school shootings in this country since columbine all the way to sandy hook. and when 26 kids were gunned down and everyone thought then things would change and it never did. and there has been more than 100

shootings since then. it really is now an open question in this country. what will they do? will anything change now after ten more people have been killed because of someone with a gun? george? >> and john, as night turns to day there, and investigators slowly but surely identify the victims, there will be many families that will given some really awful news. our thoughts are certainly with them. john vause live for us in oregon. john, thank you so much. and we thank you for watching this hour of "cnn newsroom." i'm george howell at the cnn center in atlanta. our breaking news coverage continues of the mass shooting in the state of oregon, right after the break. ♪

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this is cnn breaking news. >> our breaking news is disturbing news where a gunman asking his victim their religion before shooting them and what newly uncovered blog posts linked to the shooter. welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm john berman. the breaking news this morning, new information about the 26-year-old gunman who killed ten people, injured seven others in the bloody campus massacre in oregon. the police showed up at umpqua community college with