tanks very for joining us. i wish i could say good evening to you, i cannot. good evening would be some eight or nine people sitting down for dinner now and good evening would not include the people who love them deeply having to say for the first time in their lives, my son was, my sister was, my best friend was. a good evening would mean that for all the bad news in the world at least there wouldn't be this kind of bad news, not tonight, not again. tonight, though, again, this time in roseburg, oregon we are learning more about a massacre, a killer, arsenal and what motivated him but before we do, we begin by focussing on the stories of the lives he took yesterday at umpqua community college. >> the victims are lucer lucero alcaraz of roseburg 19 years old. quinn glen cooper of roseburg 18

years old. kim saltmarsh dietz 59 years old. lucas eibel of roseburg, 18 years old. jason dale johnson of winston, 33 years old. lawrence levine of glide, 67 years old. mr. levine was the teacher. serena dawn moore of myrtle creek, 44 years old. treven taylor anspach of sutherland, 20 years old, and rebecca ann carnes of myrtle creek, 18 years old. >> douglas county sheriff josh

hanlan saying the names of those remembers. lucero alcaraz was in the honors program in a full school lob shif. her older sister said i never got a chance to tell you how proud of you i was. i ache for you so much right now. lucero alcaraz 18 years old. rebecca ann carnes just started a new job who writes this isn't supposed to be how life works. lieu cause eibel was a quadruplet. he and his sisters and brother graduated from high school this year and attended on a scholarship studying creme most industry. he was 18. quinn glen cooper, yesterday was his fourth day of college. he and his brother cody were instepble. jason dale johnson was 33, a proud christian according to his

family and enrolled college student. they say he finally found his path. lawrence levine taught the class where the fatal shootings took place, he was 67. we don't yet know much about kim saltmarsh dietz or serena dawn moore or treven taylor anspach except he looked for the positive in life and the child of a local firefighter and rebecca carnes we mentioned earlier was a local paramedic's niece, both obviously have ex end t -- extended families grieving tonight. dan, what is the latest that we've learned? >> reporter: well, anderson, i was at that news conference where the sheriff read the names and as you can imagine, it was just so incredibly somber. those names, five men, four women who were killed, the ages ranging from 18 to 67, of

course, you read off some statements. i want to share a brief excerpt from quinn cooper saying quote, our lives are shattered beyond repair, no one should ever feel the pain that we are feeling. i think that pretty much captures the sentiment in this community tonight. anderson, we're also learning some more about the shooter. we know he possessed an incredible amount of firepower. six guns were recovered at the scene, at the school, seven more were found at his house and we should tell you that all of those guns were purchased legally. anderson? >> there is also, i understand, additional information what else investigators found from the shooter on the scene. >> reporter: before i go into that, arounderson, we can confi the shooter was, in fact, a shooter at the community college and taking the class where the shooting took place. this was an english class. we can tell you a flapjack et was recovered at the scene next to a rifle. this is a flak jacket that

contained body armor. this suggests this is somebody who went in there prepared for battle. he was intent of killing people and took steps to protect himself, anderson? >> there was a very emotional candle light vigil last night held on cale pmpus. how are people doing today? i can't imagine. >> they are not doing well, i'll be honest. this is a community of 22,000 people. cliche to say this but everybody says they never expected something like that to happen here if they don't know one of the victims, they certainly know somebody who does. i can tell you that originally, it was thought that the school was going to open perhaps as early as monday, but the school i guess thought better of it and decided to cancel classes for all of next week, anderson. >> yeah, understandable. dan, appreciate the update. one last note, we received a photo that looks ordinary enough until you learned this black

hawk helicopter landed carrying the remains of those where autopsies were conducted in portland. emotions are running high. this was city manager lance colly earlier today. >> i particularly want you-all to keep the families in your prayers. please honor their privacy. please know that we with their help, with the help of the college will move forward. and please take an opportunity to recognize what great community this is and what a great response they made. >> and the city manager joins us now mr. coally, what's the last

day and a half been like for the people in your community ? >> obviously, this has been one of the most difficult situations any of us have dealt with but the one thing i will say is starting yesterday with the response from public safety officials, emergency medical officials, you know, there was a tremendous statewide response here. people showed up. people helped. people pitched in. local businesses showed up out at the fairgrounds. it was really an incredible outpouring of love and support here in town. >> i know there was a blood drive and a huge turnout for that. we learned the names of those who lost their lives who were murdered. have you been able to see or interact with any of their families? >> actually, yesterday i spent about five hours out at the

fairgrounds where the community college was evacuated to and while at the time no one knew who we were interacting with, we certainly had an opportunity to support those families who got good news and also try to help in any way we could the families that did not receive good news. >> where do you go from here? is the next step for the community? >> well, you know, we're working really closely with the folks from umpqua community college. they have been working on a plan to reintegrate staff and students out there as you indicated. they will not have classes next week but the college will be open. they likely will be starting up a memorial out there that the

students are already working on. we'll be working closely with the college president and board and what we're looking for here is for the community to continue to just help the families, help the folks at ucc and stay strong. >> well, appreciate you being with us and our thoughts are with you and everybody suffering tonight. thank you very much. >> thank you, sir. we want to focus next on the life-saving medical care that the wounded survivors have been getting. we have a late update from our dr. sanjay gupta and we'll talk to the niece of the father of a 6-year-old that tried to charge in front of the killer and save others' lives. ♪

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nine people's lives being remembered tonight in roseburg, oregon, nine survivors recovering, wounds healing tonight. dr. sanjay gupta joins us from mercy medical center in rose burg with an update. what's the latest on their condition, sanjay? >> reporter: we got news just now, anderson, another patient has been released from the hospital. obviously, some good news in that. there are two patients that remain in the hospital behind me. one in critical condition, one

in serious condition, but the hospital officials are very of t -- optimistic about their recovery. it's remarkable if you think about the types of injuries they had. people had been shot in the chest, had been shot in the abdomen, had been shot in the limbs at close range. they told me when the news broke so many doctors, many of whom weren't on call, nurses, some of them retired just came into the hospital here behind me to try and make all this happen. it's a small town and a lot of people pitched in to get that sort of level of recovery, anderson. >> and i understand some patients had to be transferred to another hospital? >> reporter: there were three patients. this is a level three trama center here behind me. the significance of that is they don't typically have specialty surgery that these three patients, all of them women between 18 and 34 had gunshot wounds to the head. they were transferred to a

hospital about an hour away near eugene, oregon and they have been cared for over there and we checked in with that hospital as well and we hear they are improving in critical condition but improving now to serious condition and again, expected to make a recovery. be no means out of the woods but looks optimistic out here. it's still very emotional here for sure. a lot of doctors and nurses had direct relationships with some victims and obviously that's something they will need healing on both sides but physically it looks lake they are making a good recovery at both hospitals. >> small bright spot in this. quick reminder, the local her ref says he will not share the shooter's name. we're sharing photo and he was enrolled in the class where he opened fire. pamela brown is working her sources and has the very latest.

>> somebody is outside one of the doors shooting through the door. >> reporter: in the middle of the shooting rampage, the gunman handed his writings to a survivor to give to police according to sources. in those pages, the shooter rambled about hatred toward black men and frustrated about being a virgin unable to find a girlfriend. >> exchanging shots with him. he's in the classroom. >> reporter: he also vented about other mass murderers who did not shoot police, vowing he would do just that. >> that is kind of the under pinning of these copy cat crimes. they really base their behavior on out doing the next one. >> reporter: cnn learned he was a student at the college in the very class he shot up. why the shooter targeted umpqua college is unclear. he lived nearby in this apartment complex with his mother fiercely protective of him. his family has been interviewed

and the shooter suffered mental health issues and sought treatment. >> shocked, shocked is all the i can say. >> reporter: the gunman's father in california telling reporters he didn't see this coming. >> obviously, it's been a devastating day, devastating for me and my family. >> reporter: the gunman joined the army in 2008 but was discharged after only one month. his interest in the military seemed to continue. >> he wore combat boots, i remember distantly, black combat boots and camo military uniform. >> i did see him at the time walking or leaving the apartment with what looked like the gun cases. him and his mom both. and he actually did say that he used to go shooting at some range. >> reporter: investigatiors are looking into blog posts, one talking about the virginia man that murdered a tv news crew live on the air the post reading i have noticed so many people like him are all alone and unknown, yet, when they spill a

little blood, the whole world knows who they are. the more people you kill, the more you're in the limelight. >> that's exactly why i personally just don't believe we should name these people. according to the witnesses' father, the shooter targeted christians. >> we spoke to one of the victim's father and says when he walked into the classroom he asked whether or not they were christians and if they said yes, then apparently they were shot and killed. here is what the father said. >> this man had enough time i don't know how much time elapsed before he was able to stand there and start asking people one by one what their religion was. are you a christian? he would ask them and he said good because you're going to see

god in just about one second and shot ask killed them. >> as a result, we've been asking people if he left any trail behind indicating that he was anti christian or had a dislike for oregon and a social media page that belonged to him. he said he disliked organized religion but in the writings apparently he gave no indication other than saying he associated with the dark side. law enforcement said this is someone that hated all different types of people. hated black men and described frustration with women. this is a situation where you can't really apply logic to what is obviously a very logical situation here, anderson. >> no doubt get a clearer view in the days ahead what motivated the gunman. the picture fits a pattern. i'll talk about it with dave cullen and dr. drew pinsky.

>> it's unnerving to hear this guy spell it out, killing leads to fame. we talked about it so many times and it's the reason we don't show the pictures of shooters and don't name them but i'm amazed so many other people do. >> i am, too. i was on your show that night talking about that. and it's just horrific. i was really glad to see president obama get angry yesterday and that night on that show, i came in angry and i decided, you know, normally i try to calm down and get -- but it's time we quit calming down and i get this all the time, they get more and more enraged. he's not going to name the names, which i think is really kind of -- there was a sheriff about a year ago that said that and he kind of went on a limb, none of the other sheriffs or police officers since then have taken that.

finally a second guy is doing it and expanded a little to say his entire force, his investigation won't say it, i'm hoping this is a pattern now and others and maybe they can lead the media and we can follow on this one, which we should be leading but we need to do something. >> dr. drew, this gunman's family saying he did say he suffered from mental health issues, sought treatment, we don't know what the issues were or what if any treatment there was. warning signs, is there any way to identify someone that could do something like this? you don't want to stigmatize people with mental health issues? what should people look for? >> very important to point out that's not the purpose to stigmatize anybody with any brain condition but the fact is there are warning signs to look for. i've got here the fbi profiler document for potential school shooters. not only in terms of profiling who the shooter is but family

systems. the kinds of criteria, lack of empathy, frustration, intolerance, fascination with vie violent-filled entertainment and a family somebody filled with turbulence and unwillingness to set limits with the problem of viewing problematic material. >> there seems to be a copy cat element. there are studies done on this but i think there was done by state of copy cat. >> i have a researcher right now looking through all the shooters who explicitly reference just eric and dillon or the columbine shooters and it's a huge number of them. we had some shooters before columbine, we didn't have spectacle killers. we didn't have people trying to create a made for television

drama. that's new self-reinforcing and us in the media playing our part at giving them the stage. they are working off each other's playbook. they are not doing this in isolation. it's basically 100% copy catting in my opinion. >> drew, i mean, last night on the program you talked about similarities between this gunman and santa barbara shooter who you said was socially isolated, detached unable to connect. >> all those same features, which is you have somebody lack of empathy, somebody isolated, somebody who is accumulating injustices and someone who often times has some other problem that's super imposed on this. not necessarily but often times substance use and boy, that's a volatile thing and this is early similar shooting and that one a lot of people did try to do things and unfortunately, unsuccessfully left videos behind. there is opportunity for all of

us to intervene if we raise our level of awareness. the copy cat potential and be aware who these people and family systems are at risk. we want to help them. they are not happier because of how this goes. >> appreciate you being with us, thank you. >> appreciate it. just ahead, we'll talk more about president obama's clear call to make this a political issue, voting issue. he was asked about it today and how long lystrongly he believese father making that his life's work after losing his daughter to a gunman a little more than a month ago. chris mantz and what makes him a hero in the eyes of a lot of people tonight. [screams] okay, how does it feel to not be connected? my chest hurts.

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president obama today called for more gun laws saying inaction is a political decision being made. the president was visibly frustrated saying the aftermath of a shooting is are you terout

reporting and his response. the president said thoughts and prayers are just not enough, something he had to offer after so many shootings throughout his time in office. >> we come together filled with sorrow for the 13 americans that we have lost with gratitude for the lives that they led and with the determination to honor them through the work we carry on. >> the federal government stands ready to do whatever is necessary to bring whoever is responsible for this heinous crime to justice. >> all of us are heart broken by what's happened and i offered the thoughts and prayers not only of myself and michelle but also for the country as a whole. >> each time i learn the news, i react not as a president but as anybody else would, as a parent. >> the lives that were taken from us were unique. the memories their loved ones

carry are unique and they will carry them and endure long after the news cameras are gone. >> any shooting is troubling, obviously, this reopens the pain of what happened at fort hood five years ago. >> the country has to do sole soul searching about this. this is becoming the norm ask we take the for granted. indicates the old messages of hatred can be overcome. >> each time this happens i'm going to bring this up. each time this happens, i am going to say that we can actually do something about it, but we're going to have to change our laws. >> andy parker says we have to find the answer to gun violence and do something no matter what the nra says. his daughter alison parker a reporter was killed by a gunman

on august 26th, andy parker joins me now. andy, every time there is a shooting like this, people say they hope and they prayer it's going to be the last time. i got to ask you as a dad, what went through your mind when you heard about this? >> well, anderson, thanks for having me. it was like a punch in the gut initially and then, you know, it was immediate heartbreak and sorrow for these kids and then it for me quickly turned to just outrage that this kind of thing just keeps happening, it keeps happening and, you know, i'm glad that the president addressed this. it sounded like he was interesting to my interviews in the aftermath immediately after my daughter alison was killed because it's coming from my playbook. it is politics. >> you wrote an op ed today

called it quote war between rational people, interested z zellots and war in black and white. >> it is a war against good and evil. we have in essence domestic terriorism right here and it wa interesting to hear mike mccall, the chairman of the house homeland security committee tap dance around an interview today. he's supposed to be protecting us from people that are doing this harm to us. we have far more people killed by homicides, by gun-related violence than by terrorists. >> you know, when you look at the polling, the latest polling on gun control found 85% of americans favor expanded background checks, 79% favor

laws to prevent people with mental illness from purchasing guns and back the creation of a federal database. why is it then, none of those things get through congress? is it simply the power of the nra? >> it is, anderson. it is the power of the gun lobby and the irony of it is most gun owners, most nra members support this legislation but the gun money that's coming through the nra that's funneled to the politicians that are supporting and are i guess are intimidated is preventing gun legislation from happening. i'm for the second amendment. make no mistake. i'm not trying to take people's guns away but that's the argument the nra is making to close loopholes. >> and that's really what you're after. closing loopholes, what you call

sensible gun legislation. >> exactly. it's, you know, you -- it's like cancer and this is a cancer on our country. there's not one particular therapy that's going to cure it generally but this is the first one and the easiest method to start with and you tackle the mental health issue because they are linked and then you tackle the information that some of these people that are walking time bombs, employers can't tell other employers about them. mental health professionals can't tell other mental health professionals or law enforcement about them. those things have to happen but the easiest and simplest is closing to start is closing these gun loopholes and enacting sensible gun legislation. >> andy, appreciate you talking to us. sorry it's under these circumstances but thanks for being with us, andy parker,

thank you. >> thank you, anderson and one more thing if i may. if people are tired and sick and worried about dropping their kids off at school or going to a movie theater and wondering if they will come out alive or a journalist just doing their job, they need to join me and every town and fight this fight and you can text now to 877877 to join us. these guys have a 30-year head start on us but we're catching up and we'll make a difference and change things. thank you. >> andy, appreciate it again, you being with us, thank you. a shooting victim that survived, chris mintz badly wounded, shot multiple times. some people are like that. we've seen it before with their lives in jeopardy, they think of others and he did that from all accounts. it happened many times and we'll take a closer look i'll speak with one of chris' family members how he's doing and about

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because he was hit seven times and survived. army veteran and high school football player chris mintz heard shots and ran toward them, not away confronting the killer. his aunt says he may have to learn how to walk again. while he recovers, his cousin is talking about the kind of person he is. first of all, how is your cousin, chris, doing? >> he's doing very well considering the circumstances. i think they said he's having a little bit of trouble sleeping, but he's in pretty good spirits from what i've heard. >> it's amazing, he was shot as far as i understand, as many as seven times as he tried to stop the shooter. can you walk us through what you've been told happened? >> what i was told and i've heard new reports that he was actually in the library first and he started to get students out of there and then he ran back towards the building where

the shooter was where i'm assuming he then confronted him and tried to get him to stop and whenever he first talked to him, he was shot three times and then he said please don't do this, it's my son's birthday today and the shooter then proceeded to shoot him two more times to three more times, i'm not even 100% sure and he went to the classroom and began shooting other students. >> i mean, it's incredible what he did. he's a dad, as you mentioned, a veteran, obviously very strong. sounds like all those things factored in yesterday. >> i think so. i mean, he's eight years older than me so i only know him in a ert issen light as my cousin but i always definitely would have described him as a strong person. he's strong willed. he's very confident in himself and his abilities, so i wasn't really surprised whenever i heard that he did that but i'm definitely proud of him. it was amazing. >> you weren't surprised is the

kind of thing he would do? >> yes, whenever i first heard he was there, i kind of had this feeling that maybe he had tried to do something to stop the shooter, just seems like his personality, really. >> and i mean, this happened on his son's birthday and i know, you next as you said, he pa apparently was crying out for his son saying it was his son's birthday yesterday. how old was his son? >> he just turned 6. his name is tyrick, he's super adorable. looks like chris. >> he looks adorable. >> maybe has something to do with how strong he was yesterday. >> i know your family set up a go fund me page and we'll put up that link so people can support chris' recovery. thank you so much for taking the time and give you certainly our best wishes to chris and your whole family.

>> thank you so much. it was a pleasure. >> chris' actions were brave and when groups of people are suddenly faced with an unimaginable choice to save yourself or help save someone else. it's a decision that can happen in a split second. randi kaye reports. >> reporter: july 20th, 2012 a shooter opens fire inside a movie theater in aurora, colorado. 12 people are killed, three die saving others jumping in front of a bullet including jonathan blunk, 26-year-old father of two. he's killed after taking a bullet for his girlfriend. he laid on top of her. >> he said get down and stay down and pushed me onto the ground on to my belly and he passed away saving my life. he was a true hero. >> psychology professor says people who risk fir lives for others have a certain makeup. >> you have to be the kind of person whose first impulse is to help and also need to be the

kind of person willing to go with your gut. if you're a rational deliberat deliberating person, you won't. >> reporter: people that tend to over think things that realize they can get hurt or die are not the people that jump into action in a life or death situation. saving another's life is an incredibly selfless act and we're not all wired this way. luckily they were. they quickly saved countless lives after tackling a heavily articl armed gunman. >> tackled him, got him to the ground and put him in a choke hold, all three of us started punching him. >> reporter: back in 2011 moments after gabby giffords was shot, bill badger pounced on the gunman at the same time another by stander hit the shooter with a chair. badger had already been shot and still acted swiftly. >> i grabbed his left wrist and

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there's a new storm track for hurricane joaquin. for days it's kept the entire coast coast on pins and needles as everyone wonders where it will go. it left a slew of damage and close calls. take a look at this rescue video. >> rescue ready for the rescue swimmer. raft in sight. swimmer on his way down. swimmer in the water, clear to move. survivor half way up. big swell there, roger. >> control swing. >> the u.s. coast guard saved all 12 crew members from the

sinking cargo ship. severe weather from joaquin proved too much for the ship. they were lucky. there is a container ship missing tonight off the coast of the bahamas and sent a distress signal thursday morning and we have new information about the storm. what do we know first about the storm? >> the storm is a category three, powerful category four much of yesterday and today. it is finally starting to weaken but you have to think about this, sitting over the bahamas with winds sustained at 100 to 130 miles per hour for more than 36 hours. so it is going to be devastating for the central bahamas once we start to get a good look at the devastation. thankfully, it's taking the pull to the north moving to the northeast now at seven miles per hour. as we get through the day tomorrow, bahamas will gradually clear. winds sustained at 125 miles per hour. it is going to continue that

eastward track well away from the u.s. we are going to get an on shore flow so it is going to have a slight impact across the eastern seaboard due to this storm but that movement to the northeast at seven is very, very good, anderson. >> and i understand there is going to be extreme weather that's unrelated to joaquin hitting the east coast this weekend. >> absolutely. let's take you to the floor and i'll show you what is happening. we have a lot going on. joaquin moving out but a surge of tropical moisture and what this is going to do is pull in a lot of rain across south carolina, north carolina, we're talking about ten to 15, maybe more inches of rain across south carolina. mountains in the west and spill all over places like colombia, charleston, a huge concern there and so we're going to really have to watch that. storms are going to train and i'll go back to the wall and

show you what we're talking about. think of train on tracks. once we get that idea, you can tell that these storms are basically going to follow the leader. they are going to pull in the same place for hours and hours on end and so that's going to pull in two, three inches an hour. it's going to last all weekend long. a lot of areas received about a foot of rain during the last seven days and can only handle two to four more inches of rain before flooding will begin. we're already seeing it in the carolinas and it's going to continue, this could be historic and it could be catastrophic for the carolinas, anderson. >> we'll keep tracking it. thanks very much. most people find a safe place to ride out the storm and others fly into the storm to collect vital data that helps predict the path, data used to make life-saving decisions on land. meteorologist and weather anchor derrick van dam went along for

the ride. >> reporter: tonight's flight will take 12 hours, long and flight. it helps predict where the storm will go and saving millions of dollars in storm preparation and more importantly, saving lives. >> comes down to evacuate or not. emergency management has a tough job and forecasters. we go in a storm and get a rough ride and collect data. they take that information to help those guys do the tough job of making hard decisions who has to evacuate. >> reporter: lightning fills the darkness of sky. a few hours into the journey, sunlight reveals clouds and thunderstorms on the horizon. we're heading directly toward joaquin. we're just about to punch through the eye wall meaning we're going into the strongest part of the hurricane feeling winds in excess of 150 miles per

hour with a category four like this. we experienced severe turbulence and more to come. >> is it sound? is it safe? >> oh, no, you're very safe in the 130. >> reporter: we're 7,000 feet above the northern bahamas in the center of joaquin. this storm has been notoriously difficult to predict but the weather data retrieved from the hurricane hunters will help improve the forecast greatly. multiple drop souths are released sending back information like wind speed back to computers on board. joaquin is pushing north. >> that's coming up. >> reporter: as we make several passes, a missing ship is stranded in rough swells. we dropped to 600 feet to help search beclouds and bad

visibility prevent us from finding the vessel. the hurricane hunters collect more data before heading back to biloxi. >> how often do they go out? i understand they have been out several times already. >> reporter: anderson, they fly out to storms at least two times a day, in fact, they have the ability to fly to three separate storms from the international date line over the central pacific to the mid atlantic and bahamas. three storms two types daily, you can ill mmagine how busy th are and how iconic it gets. >> how rough does it get up there? >> reporter: it's that moment when you punch through the eye wall, the strongest part of a storm you start to shake and rattle and you're belted in but the turbulence there is rough and you can really feel it. in fact, i was quite scared for myself. >> all right. derrick, thanks very much for doing that. appreciate it.

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