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♪ ♪ ire catastrophic flooding. that is what the national weather service is expecting in parts of south carolina. how they are categorizing it. now the threat is spreading. 27 million people along the east coast under a flood watch. how on earth could he compile 13 guns? >> with no answers, trying to come to terms of how and why his son shot and killed nine people on an oregon college campus before killing himself. crews continue their search for a cargo ship that disappeared when hurricane joaquin slammed into the
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bahamas. why family members, they are not giving up hope. as you can imagine. would would? good morning. we let you know we are grateful for your company as always. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. the big news on what is called catastrophic flooding is impacting 27 million people along the east coast. one of the hardest hit states is south carolina. dark right now so it's hard to tell how bad it is really. i'm sure you get an idea of it. guys, let's drop the banners so people can see it. we know dozens of people had to be rescued overnight and had to seek shelter. >> this poor man is trying to get himself and his pet obviously into safety. people are grabbing everything they can as they search for higher ground here. official had to call rescue teams from out of state, in fact, to help. and residents this morning are crippled with this record amount of rain.
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nearly a foot being dumped in the last 24 hours. many other states are feeling the effects as well of the floods and the tidal concerns that we haven't even talked about yet. take a look at this map, though. that gives you a good picture here showing the states under watches or advisories right now at this hour. the thing is rain is still coming. some of the worst may still yet to be seen. we have cnn meteorologist allison chinchar in the cnn weather center and nick valencia is in charleston. nick, help us understand what it's like there morning. >> reporter: good morning, chri christi. flash flood watch watch is still in effect in this area. the rain has been relentless. no relief in sight for the residents of this area and the intensity of that rain has diminished. the situation remains extremely dangerous. a massive storm trapped over the east coast.
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from near wilmington, north carolina. to myrtle beach, south carolina. millions of americans along the eastern seaboard affected by the wind and record breaking rain. >> this is not just any rain. this is going to be the heaviest rainfall we have ever seen. >> reporter: in charleston, south carolina, a deluge of water and roads more accustomed to traffic jams, inundated by several feet of water. these two strangers teamed up to help stranded people in their cars. >> we saw the people and the car just floating around and decided to help them out. >> reporter: you don't know each other? you just helping hands here? >> well, i think we just have the same motive as far as we are stuck here any ways, might as well help somebody out. >> help us here. >> reporter: often where there is crisis, there are those willing to lend a hand. this stranded wedding party nearly missed the big day, if not for the last-minute aid of the national guard.
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but not everyone was as fortunate. since thursday, at least four people were killed in storm-related incidents in north and south carolina. downed trees and power outages posing problems for the first responders. >> i'm a good citizen. i'm going to baio bay. i'm going to hole up in my apartment and clean out my dresser. >> reporter: the low pressure system substantial. 500 residents were evacuated in the coastal county and flood and flash flood watches are expected to continue for the weekend. >> continued rains in south carolina which we are going to be keeping track of. >> reporter: the severe weather is expected to persist through sunday and perhaps beyond, with heavy rains anticipated to cause even more disaster and emergency. a federal state of emergency has been declared for the state of south carolina. in a few hours, once the sun comes up, we will be able to show you just the extent of this
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damage. but really, guys, it seems like this storm system is just hovering over south carolina like a train. guys, it just continues to come and pour all over us. >> you and the crew take good care there. nick valencia, thank you so much. >> you bet. >> we have on the line now mario formsano, director of emergency management for dorchester county in south carolina, right next door to where nick is. mario, good morning. . i want you to give me an update on the rescue operations under way we are told about. >> so we have been performing rescue operations since about 10:30 last night. things have kind of calmed down a little bit. we have had a little bit of a lull in the precipitation, which has been, obviously, a positive thing for us but not so good for the folks north of dorchester county be we learned from the national weather service we are going to get a little bit of a break for the next few hours. overnight, we conducted
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approximately 140 rescue operations. it's a combination of rescues from residential areas and freed motorists and a collaborative activity between county and municipal forces and municipal aid came in out of south carolina to help us with swift water rescues. we have 75 people, primarily those that were taken from those rescue operations, in a storm shelter at this time as well. >> i wonder, you know, with the context of three people having died across the state of south carolina in the last 48 hours on the roads, we are told. do you see that most people are heeding the warning and staying off the roads? or are people trying to drive through these flooded streets? >> unfortunately, people are not heeding the warning. dorchester county, earlier saturday, convened an emergency council meeting with our elected officials of the county. we issued a state of declaration
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and we issued a curfew to begin at 6:00 p.m. this was something not necessarily a county wide curfew. some of the municipalities elected not to enforce the curfew. we sought to do that and where we had jurisdiction and we still found the people did not obey and we did run into the stranded motorists that were trying to cross waterways and actually new waterways that were making their way across these roads. and the biggest challenge is once it gets dark, you don't know how deep that water is. so just one foot of water is going to sweep away a vehicle potentially. >> even when the sun is up, you have no idea what is under that water. what you think is a road you're familiar with, may not be in these conditions. mario formsan ancht for dorchester county there in south carolina, thank you for taking a few minutes to speak with us. i know you guys are really busy. >> thank you. >> thanks for all you do too. when you hear the national
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weather service characterizing is at catastrophic is how people are talking about this thing in the carolinas this morning. >> cnn meteorologist allison chinchar is watching all of this for us. give us the latest. >> that's right. we want to take a look at some rainfall totals overall we have seen. berkeley county in south carolina, 18 inches of rain. we have had 17 inches in mt. pleasant, south carolina. myrtle beach, 15 inches and just under 15 inches in charleston. they may be just under that mark but more is expected to come, which is why we still have a lot of the flood watches out in effect. this is just kind after zoomed in image for north and south carolina because that is where the majority of the heavy rain is. you can see this is that plume of moisture. look. it just keeps streaming over the same locations over and over and over again. unfortunately, they may get a few quick lulls in between, but, overall, they are not expected to dry out until tuesday of this coming week. here is what we expect on top of
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what we have already had. an extra 6 to 10 inches of rain between charleston and myrtle beach, could see a few spots that still expect to get in addition of at least 10 inches. now, again, as we mentioned, up and down the coast, with we have got flood watches and warnings in effect, but also the wind. we have got that high pressure and that is pulling all of those windy conditions up along the northeast. take a look at some of these wind gusts in the northeast. cape may, new jersey, 62 miles an hour. 58 miles an hour at big stone beach in delaware. seaside heights in new jersey, 56 and landonberg, pennsylvania, 53 miles an hour. even though they have haven't experienced quite the rainfall the carolinas have, folks in the northeast still dealing with impacts from this similar system. here you can see joaquin. it's starting to bring that wrap-around where it pulls in those winds. that also brings some storm surge in, especially to parts around washington, d.c. and baltimore where you get some of those extra strong winds pushing in the water, especially along high tide. here is a look at the high
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forecast radar. most of the rain will keep pushing into the same spots over and over and over again. here is joaquin. now down to a low-end category three so not as strong as it was yesterday. as you recall, we were only 2 miles an hour off from an category five storm and nowhere near that strong now and only expected to weaken as it slides north and should drop 3 to 5 inches of rain in bermuda but nowhere what south carolina and north carolina have had and charleston has had their wettest october on record and it's october 4th. >> allison, thank you for the update there. the other story that is developing this weekend, that bombing and president obama is promising a full investigation after 19 people were killed in an hospital in afghanistan. was the u.s. responsible for those bombings? plus, we are going to hear from the father of the oregon college shooter. his biggest question stemming from this massacre.
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campus because classes will not be held all week. the campus will be open to students and faculty on monday, though. meanwhile, four people are still in the hospital. wounded in last week's attack. dan simon is live in roseburg, oregon. dan, i imagine when the students will return, although there will be no classes, that is going to be difficult. >> reporter: it certainly will, victor. we are learning more details how this mass atrocity unfolded and how the shooter, himself, died. we are told that two police officers arrived on scene five minutes after the initial 911 call, and quickly engaged the shooter. now had that not happened, authorities say there certainly would have been more carnage. we are also learning what one victim told her family about what happened and how the shooter decided that one person in particular in that classroom should have his life spared. a person he called the lucky one. she is the youngest victim and survived where the umpqua
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community college shooting. cheyenne fitzgerald made at that time college earlier than most and her 14th day when the shots rang out. >> i heard there was a shooting at the college. i grabbed my purse and keys and flew out of my job. i text my daughter, "i'm on my way to school." but i never went there. i came here. and that how i found my daughter. >> reporter: a bullet had gone through her back. >> she is currently in icu. she lost a kidney due to her gunshot wound. >> dispatch as many ambulance as possible to the incident. we have upwards of 20 victims. >> reporter: cheyenne is having a hard time reliving the terror but told her family the gunman had singled out one particular classmate, giving him an envelope, along with a verbal message. >> you're going to be the lucky one and to go to the corner. and he told everybody else to go to the middle of the room and lay down. >> reporter: cheyenne's family
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says she, too, was asked about her religion, but didn't answer. she played dead on the floor. authorities, so far, have declined to discuss a motive and what the shooter gave to that student, but we now know of the 26-year-old gunman died. >> the medical examiner has determined the cause of death of the shooter to be suicide. >> reporter: that, as reports surfaced the gunman told those who he was shooting, i'll see you soon. an implication that he was planning for his own death. >> i have not questioned my daughter about any of this. i don't -- i can't bring myself to do it because i know when she is ready, she will talk to me and tell me and little bits, she is starting to, you know, let out. >> and to the families of the victims, our hearts are with you and you know that our hearts will be with you forever. >> reporter: as for 16-year-old cheyenne fitzgerald, she is
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still in the hospital and she is in icu. that bullet clipped her lung and lodged in her kidney which had to be removed. her family is hopeful that she will make a recovery. her goal in life, victor, was to become a nurse and take care of victims like herself. victor? >> dan simon there in roseburg. our thoughts and prayers not just for the four still in the hospital, but everyone there. thank you, dan. >> absolutely. as you heard dan mention there, 14 weapons have now been linked to this shooter so let's talk to c. law enforcement analyst and former fbi assistant director tom fuentes. i want to talk about the report in the new york daily news report that says the mother had been stockpiling weapons. could she, in some capacity, face charges here if it is found to be true, that the mother was stockpiling weapons? >> christi, on that positive exactly of what they could do with her, based on we don't know
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her knowledge of him taking those guns out that day or his intentions to do that. if she purchased the weapons legally, which we have heard from the beginning they were purchased legally, then it's just a question of, you know, whether she is complicit in this attack or not. i have to question her mental condition. you know, we are talking about this individual getting 14 weapons and then doing an attack, taking four of them with him that day -- or six at the scene, but four into the school. what about her? you know? anybody checking on her and whether she is getting more weapons? is there any reason she can't purchase more? even if the police confiscated all of the weapons in this case, can she go out and just replace them and buy some more? i have serious doubts about her mental condition and what can be done about it. >> we don't know anything about her mental condition. i mean, it's a point to make. but she is one person that we have not yet heard from. can you help us understand what is going on in the investigative
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process at this point, particularly with the mother? >> well, i mean, obviously, they are investigating her and whether all of the purchases were legal but if she made them legally and if she has not been judged to be mentally incompetent or have a criminal record and have any reason to stop her from buying the weapons, you know, i don't know what more they can do with it in terms of this particular case. you know, i just don't know. that would be up to the prosecutors to decide whether they can include her as possibly somehow complicit in this. what is to stop her from buying more weapons? we haven't heard any discussion of being able to prevent her from doing more of it. obviously, she's not going to, you know, have someone, you know, have another son to give them to, but we don't know if she would use them herself. >> tom fuentes, appreciate your insight. thank you. >> thank you. >> ryan young of cnn spoke with the shooter's father and his main question was how were so many guns available to his son?
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how did he get them? listen. >> a question i would like to ask is -- is -- is how on earth could he compile 13 guns? how can that happen? you know? they talk about gun laws, they talk about gun control. every time something like this happens, they talk about it and nothing is done. >> we will hear more from the gunman's father later this hour. christi? >> of course, we do want to keep you abreast of what is happening in the breaking news this morning. this historical flooding hitting the east coast, as it's been characterized. 27 million of you under a watch or an advisory right now. we have got evacuations. tens of thousands of people don't have power right now. and this is all coupled with the fact that there is more rain on the way which could make this so much more dangerous. we are going to bring you live updates throughout the morning. a new day weekend exclusive for facebook.
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than 48 hours at this point since the ship was last heard from. search and rescue airplanes will continue scouring the waters for clues this morning. a life preserver that belongs to the ship was discovered yesterday. family members of the crew met with the shipping company as well. like anybody can understand, they are holding on to hope here. >> you don't say anything. you can't stop. you just keep it up and -- >> reporter: are you hopeful? >> yeah, yeah. man, you got to be. it's very stressful. you know? just hoping everything will be better tomorrow. >> praying. yeah. >> god is in the mix and we know. they will be safe. >> we are holding on to hope with you there, folks. next hour, by the way, captain mark fedora is a u.s. coast guard and he is going to update us on the latest in that search. four students face conspiracy charges after police
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got word they were going to shoot up a high school on thursday. the plot was in its early stages. good news here, no one was hurt. at least 20 children were inside this high school. look at this. part of it collapsed. firefighters said a large -- ran into a canopy there. some of the students were trapped and 25 people were taken to the hospital. obviously, some of those students were included. there are some in serious condition this morning. millions of people, the number this morning, 27 million people in seven states under flooding threat today. look at this video. imagine this. we just got this in. this is from south carolina. people are being swept away, in some cases, half to just hold on and create these human chains to rescue one another in these floodwaters. we will have more of this video and live reports throughout the morning. stay with us. moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis like me...
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this is cnn breaking news. we just got this video in. we are staying with the flooding here in south carolina. this is columbia, south carolina. you see the people here make ago human chain. notice on the right, that is a stop sign that man is holding on to. they are trying to get to him but i think they are being -- let's drop the banner, guys, so we can see that. so we have seen this. this is being called catastrophic, crippling, historic and this gives us an idea of what the people here are dealing with. >> because this was a street. that stop sign indicates it's not as though they were standing on the banks of the river and it just kind of overtook them. this is what -- this is a road where normally a car would be where they are hanging on to a stop sign trying to pull each other out of water, it's not just sitting water that is getting deep. you can see the movement of this water. the official will tell you, it takes a foot of water to move an
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entire car is all it takes so you can imagine what it takes to move a person. >> that water was up to that man's neck. you see he was able to get out of the rush of the water there. >> thank goodness. we are glad they are okay. >> 27 million people dealing with some level or some degree of the flooding this morning. advisories across several states. again, this is a video from columbia. people crippled by the flooding waters. firefighters just told cnn that they have had more than 50 swift water rescues overnight. >> officials are calling it catastrophic flooding, if that gives you any indication here. three counties in that state under a flash flood emergency right now. nearly 30,000 people do not have power. south carolina, by the way, is one of seven states dealing with advisories and warnings. we are going to continue to bring you live updates throughout the morning because one of the biggest concerns here is the fact that this is what they are dealing with but there is still so much rain on the way today.
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they are staying some of the heaviest possibly tonight, into tomorrow morning. >> some areas have already seen 18 inches of rain. let's go to oregon now. students there, faculty as well, preparing to return to umpqua community college tomorrow. no classes held tomorrow or at all this week. the campus is being reopened. investigators are giving an update on their findings thus far. they say that 14 illegal obtained guns have been linked to the killer and that he committed suicide after engaging with that shoot-out -- in the shoot-out with police. >> a lot of people are wondering about the mother in this case because she was who the son was living with, the shooter was living with. we haven't heard from her. we have heard from the father. as you can imagine, he says he is devastated by thursday's attack. not for his own family but says his heart goes out to the families of the victims as well. cnn's ryan young spoke with him about the shooting and specifically talked about how his son may have gotten a hold
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of so many guns. >> it has been, as i said before, devastating for me and my family. but we are not alone in this. my heart goes out to all of the other families that were affected by this. and i know words will not bring the families back and i know nothing i can say can change what happened, but please, believe me, my thoughts are with all of those families and i hope that they can get through this. >> reporter: and you talked before, you said you are at a loss for words when it comes to something like this. so many questions somebody could ask you, but you really said you don't have answers for them? >> sometimes, you try to find the right words and there really isn't -- there's nothing i can really say and find the right words. it's just, sometimes it's overwhelming and, you know,
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trying to understand how it could happen. it's incredible. i'm at a loss for word right now. >> reporter: you told me before you didn't want to talk too much about your son obviously because you're going through so much pain, but you also realize that people are going to remember him differently now forever? >> i know he will be remembered for what he did on thursday, i know that. i can't change that at the moment. i'm just leaving it up to the police to do their investigation as to, you know, his history and everything in his background. i'm sure they will announce what they find all in good cause. right now, i'm just going to leave it up to them. the only thing i would like to say is a question i would like to ask is -- is -- is, how on earth could he compile 13 guns?
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how can that happen? you know? they talk about gun laws, they talk about gun control. every time something like this happens, they talk about it and nothing is done. >> we will hear more from that shooter's father later in the show. i want to get to that bombing in kunduz overnight friday, into saturday. u.n. official now saying the suspected u.s. bombing of that hospital could be a war crime. we will go live to afghanistan in a moment. also, hillary clinton back on "saturday night live." joking about her policies, donald trump, even her marriage. >> did somebody say vacation? oh, my god! they are multipling! charmin ultra mega roll equals mega value.
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41 minutes past the hour right now. i want to give you a heads-up that some of the information i'm about to tell you is really tough to take in and i don't want you to be caught off-guard. but an eyewitness to this weekend's deadly u.s. air strike on an afghanistan hospital says, quote, there are no words to describe the horror he saw. doctors without borders nurse says he watched his colleague dying, his friends crying uncontrollably and in the
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intensive care unit he witnessed patients dying in their beds. thehite house is vowing to get answers. quote, the department of defense has launkedched a full investigation and we will await the results of that inquiry before making a definitive judgment as to the circumstances of this tragedy. i expect a full accounting of the facts and circumstances, unquote. nick is live with us in kabul. i'm wondering what the conversations are there in kabul and in afghanistan about this event. >> reporter: the president here has said the u.s. military is having an investigation. he has said the ongoing operations in kunduz to clear out the forces. both the nato forces and u.s. forces working with the afghan
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forces olg. while the u.s. military is having an investigation, they would really like to see an independent investigation. they would like it to be as transparent as possible. their concern is that if the u.s. military investigates its own actions, it may not have the same transparency, if you will, as an investigation by an independent outside observer. they are very concerned that this strike on the hospital is going to influence the way that -- their hospitals and other hospitals, not just in afghanistan, but in conflict zones around the world can be treated in the future. it's not just the tragedy of losing so many of their staff and the hospital, but it's also the message that this sends to other forces and other people around the world. there is a great deal of concern here with doctors without borders that this is done, the investigation is done in a
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transparent way, christi. >> we read that the msf president called it a grave violation of international humanitarian law. is there any way that this, if it did happen, if it was via the u.s., if it was an accident, could still be seen as criminal in some nature? >> reporter: well, the investigation shows -- if they need to wait for the investigation to be carried out, undoubtedly the first steps in that are already under way. but if the investigation does show that somehow this was u.s. forces and this was an accident of some description, then that should go a long way to answering the questions of how and why this could happen. borders are said that from the beginning of the week, when the taliban first got into the town, they went to the doctors without
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borders hospital and said to them, look. we want you to stay there and continue and continue on working. close to 400 people already this week. it's an article of international humanitarian law that hospitals are not places of conflict, not place weapons are taken into. the doctors without borders hospital has a big no gun sign on the outside as do pretty much all of the hospitals in afghanistan and a clear understood thing in afghanistan where there has been so much conflict for so long. will it answer that question? it may ameliorate it to a degree but it's getting those clear transparent answers i think everyone is after at the moment. >> nic robertson, we appreciate the insight. thank you, sir. 27 million people on the east coast under some type of weather advisory right now. at the top of the hour we are going to go live to south carolina. almost 30,000 people there are without power in one county. just one county, 140 people have
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been rescued in this storm and the rain still falling there. also, you know, it's not late night -- at least fun late night this time of the year or this cycle without one of the political candidates and on saturday night, it was hillary clinton's turn. if you missed it, we are going to have some of the fun inier moments and break down the strategy next. first, we have been talking a lot recently about the record breaking drought in california. well, i don't know if you're aware, but in much of india, families rely in regions on water brought in by tankers and each then, people use 10% of what average americans use. this week, cnn's hero found a solution for his homeland by looking to the skies. >> guys, it is dry in india. in many areas, the ground water
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night live." her role here, a bartender named val, chatting with clinton impersonator. >> oh, val, i'm just so darned bummed. all anyone wants to talk about is donald trump. >> donald trump? isn't he the one that is, like, ugh, you're all losers! >> that is him! >> do you think he'll win the primaries? >> he must. i want to be the one to take him down. i will destroy him and i will mount his hair in the oval office! >> now as soon as the sketch ended, clinton tweeted a vote for hillary is a vote for four more years of indicate mckinnon's impression #citizens. let's talk about this with
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stephen collinson. the latest poll shows clinton is doing well and far ahead of bernie sanders and the other competitors but the favorite ability numbers and trustworthy numbers have struggled. is this one an effort to change that? and is the campaign privately really concerned about those numbers? >> victor, i think they must be. since hillary clinton entered this race, her popular iterating and favor ability numbers have dipped as you said, plunged to the lowes levels for about 20 years. so elections tend to be one, presidential elections by the likeable candidate. it has reminded people of the less flattering aspects of her character, suggestions she's not honest and she's not completely trustworthy. so i think in appearances like this allow the candidate to establish a bit of a bond with the audience to show a different side of their character and to,
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you know, try and reverse some of this slide in the popular iteratings. >> let's cue up the next clip here because there were some topics that were part of the sketch, that people would expect, and some that, obviously, were not. glaring omissions. watch this. >> i'm just an ordinary citizen who believes the keystone pipeline will destroy our environment. >> i agree with you there. it did take me a long time to decide that, but i am against it. >> mrs. clinton, i'm so sorry possess interrupt. i just wanted to say my sister's gay so thank you for all you've done for gay marriage. >> well, you're welcome. >> it really is great how long you've supported gay marriage. >> yes. i could of supported it sooner. >> well, you did it pretty soon. >> it could have been sooner. >> fair point. >> the keystone pipeline,
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same-sex marriage. no mention of the e-mail scandal. no more wiping the server with a cloth or loving snapchat. >> you mentioned she did joke about the e-mail server about six weeks ago in a press conference saying she would perhaps should chef wiped it clean with a cloth? that was a remark that came across as very off-key and it turned out it backfired. so i think there must have been a clear signal sent from the clinton campaign to "saturday night live" that the e-mail server and jokes like that were off limits because they would, you know, take away from the whole purpose of this appearance which was to make hillary clinton more likeable. >> yeah. now "ellen" and maybe a shift here in the media approach. >> yeah. >> we have to wrap it up here bulls good to have you, stephen. >> okay, victor. >> thanks. catastrophic and crippling, those are words that are being used to describe the flooding
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here. the highways in charleston, south carolina. doesn't look bad necessarily on the highway but some of the other video that we have and we have gotten in, we will show it to you as we keep getting new pictures minute-by-minute. all of that. plus a live report at the top of the hour. stay close. you get used to sweaty odors in your car
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finally dislodged it. it's already floated more than half a mile, we are told. the death toll from another massive weather event, the landslide in guatemala continues to rise. people say 86 people were killed when the side of this hill came crashing down on a village and you see what happened to the homes there. 86 are dead and a hundred are missing. in france, pictures we are getting in here. at least 16 were killed when downpours kill four in france. ole miss got destroyed by florida 38 in one of this weekend's college football updebts. another shocker. clemson pulled off a two-point win over sixth ranked notre dame. arizona state also up-ended ucla
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and alabama blind siding georgia 38-so. we are so grateful you're starting your morning with us. >> we have much more ahead in the next hour of "new day." it starts right now. ♪ breaking news this morning. the catastrophic flooding across the mid-atlantic region. south carolina specifically. more than 100 water rescues in one county. the worst is not over yet. six states are bracing for more water than they can handle. plus, a desperate search in the atlantic this morning. a cargo ship filled with american workers missing in the wake of hurricane joaquin. we have a live report for you. new details about the armed gunman in oregon, how he got so many guns. that's what his father wants to know and he has some pretty
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shocking comments on gun control. >> they talk about gun laws. they talk about gun control. every time something like this happens, they talk about it and nothing is done. this is cnn break ing news. >> it's tough day for a lot of you waking up because you're dealing with this wicked, wicked weather along the east coast but we are always grateful for your company. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. the news this morning is called catastrophic, unprecedented. flooding is compacting 27 million people along the east coast and most life-threatening weather in south carolina, look at this. we just got this in from columbia. you see here in the center of the screen, i think those are people making a human chain, trying to rescue a man who is holding on to a stop sign, which tells you this is a street. i mean, this man slips away. you see the water up to his
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neck, at some point. he dips down and makes his way up to safer higher ground. he is saved. you can see just how dire the situation is. this is just one county. many counties dealing with this in south carolina alone. >> it's so important to look at this because it's not just about the height of the water, it's about the way the water moves and how it can rush. we know that 12 inches of water can pick up a small car. official overnight saying there too, they have been called to more than a hundred water rescues across the state and that number is likely growing in the coming house. this morning, we know 30,000 people don't have power in south carolina. three counties are under a flash flood emergency. and officials had to call rescue teams from out of state. there are four additional swift water rescue teams coming to south carolina. take a look at the map here. it really shows the state is under watches or advisories at
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this hour. the torrential rain showing no signs of letting up. this is part of the problem because it's not just the rain we have already seen. it's the rain and the water that is coming. >> we have got on the phone with us eric rousey with the south carolina emergency management division. eric, first, good to have you. i know you guys are busy. what we heard from dorchester county was 140 water rescues alone in that county. give us a broader idea of what is happening across the state, if you can quantify and equalive f -- qualify what is happening. >> we are 30,000 customers in south carolina without electricity. we have had a lot of areas, basically, the entire state has been hard-hit by these floods. it's a historic flood, the likes of which we haven't seen. right now, we have got some rescue operations ongoing in charleston and dorchester
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counties in particular. we have got swift water rescue teams that are in place now just trying to get people out of the water. >> so you got these swift water rescues. are these mostly people who are in their cars, or are these people on foot, or are they in their homes? >> these are professional teams. they are two-boat operations. >> no, no. the people who are being rescued is my question. >> what was that? i'm sorry. >> the people who are being rescued, are these people on foot or in cars or in their homes? >> oh, yes. the people being rescued are people in their cars and who tried to cross the water on foot and have gotten caught up in the current. >> so the number we have from dorchester county alone is 140, the emergency management gave us that number. do you have a number that encompasses rescues across the state, a collective number? >> we don't at this time. we are still working on compiling that.
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the problem is, you know, a lot of the rescues, we have got statewide rescues. we have got rescues with the local police departments, and a lot of these -- and, you know, local agencies and stuff are updating these. we are still in the process of compiling exactly how many -- how many rescues. total we are talking about, because all of these different agencies are pitching in to work on it. >> we are seeing on the screen now video from columbia and we have a reporter in charleston as well. which other areas are being hit as hard this morning? >> well, primary charleston and dorchester counties, berkeley counties in the southern part of the state. we are -- they have all been hit. basically, the entire state has been hit pretty hard. but, right now, columbia is getting hit. but charleston has taken really the brunt of that, of the hit
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right now. >> final question and i'll let you get back tour work. i know that there have been some resources have come in from out of state. do you have all of the resources you need to keep up with the number of calls coming in across the state? >> well, we are going to evaluate that later today. we are still looking at that. right now, we have got four more swift water rescue teams coming in from tennessee, and so that is going to help us out a lot. and we are looking at getting more resources coming in. later today, we are going to work on deciding and requesting additional resources. we have got those swift water rescue teams coming in from tennessee and that will help us out a lot. >> eric rousey with the south carolina emergency management division, thanks to and i'll let you get back to work. >> all right. thank you. >> thank you, sir. there is even a tweet from the president and gm of wltx-tv
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in columbia, south carolina. all he says is i've never seen anything like this. cnn's nick valencia is live in charleston, south carolina. you just heard there that charleston is really getting the brunt of it and we want to see where he is and what you're doing. as i understand it, you're standing in some water. is it raining? it looks like it might have stopped there. what is the latest, nick? >> reporter: the intensity of it has let up a little bit. we just heard there from the south carolina emergency management division that charleston has suffered the brunt of the damage and you can tell. look at king street behind me. as soon as the sun comes up you'll see the cars completely submerged. the gas station and some of the tanks suffering the effects as well. you come around here with me and get a point of reference. this car up to wheels in water. the entire state of south carolina in a desperate and dangerous situation. a massive storm trapped over the
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east coast. from near wilmington, north carolina. to myrtle beach, south carolina. millions of americans along the eastern seaboard affected by the wind and record breaking rain. >> this is not just any rain. this is going to be the heaviest rainfall we have ever seen. >> reporter: in charleston, south carolina, a deluge of water and roads more accustomed to traffic jams, inundated by several feet of water. these two strangers teamed up to help stranded people in their cars. >> we saw the people and the car just floating around and decided to help them out. >> reporter: you don't know each other? you just helping hands here? >> well, i think we just have the same motive as far as we are stuck here any ways, might as well help somebody out. >> help us here. >> reporter: often where there is crisis, there are those willing to lend a hand. this stranded wedding party nearly missed the big day, if not for the last-minute aid of the national guard. but not everyone was as fortunate.
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since thursday, at least four people were killed in storm-related incidents in north and south carolina. downed trees and power outages posing problems for the first responders. >> i'm a good citizen. i'm going to obey. i'm going to hole up in my apartment and clean out my dresser. >> reporter: in brunswick county, north carolina, the impacts from the low pressure system substantial. up to 500 residents were evacuated in the coastal county and flood and flash flood watches are expected to continue for the weekend. >> the tough news for north carolina and especially south carolina is the continued rains which we are going to keep track of. >> reporter: the severe weather is expected to persist through sunday and perhaps beyond, with heavy rains anticipated to cause even more disaster and emergency. behind me is what the street should look like but this is what is left behind. more than 15 inches of rain we understand from our meteorologists, this road completely flooded here.
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part of the issue and the concern here is the sewage system. the local officials going on the local media last night saying there might be parasites in the water and perhaps some sewage that is bubbling up and each a concern here for our news crew. if you are considering coming out and playing in the water, as we saw so many people do yesterday, it's probably better to stay indoors. >> that is a really good point to bring up! i hope you're wearing some protective gear, nick. you're the first i thought of when i saw you standing in the middle of it. nick valencia, thank you very much a. as we said earlier this storm is affecting six other states. 27 million people. and part of what is so, i think, frightening about it is is not just what has fallen but what is still to come. >> let's get a broader picture here with allison chinchar is watching all of it in the weather center. unbelievable numbers. you're talking more than a foot and a half of rain for some communities. >> and we are not done. these aren't the end of the storm totals and these are bl
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rise the next couple of days. the upper level low sitting around florida. as that low continues to push towards the east, it's pulling in moisture from hurricane joaquin. even though joaquin is not actually going to make landfall anywhere near the u.s., it's pulling that plume in where you can see that tropical moisture straight into the carolinas. we also have the high pressure that is sitting kind of behind me and bringing in intense winds to parts of the northeast. but let's take a look at some of these rainfall record numbers. because they are just incredible when you look at them. berkeley county, south carolina, 18 inches of rain. 17 in mouvet. pleasant and myrt beach 16 inches and charleston, just under 15 and i'm sure they will get to 15 if not more because we expect more rain on top of what they have already had. we also have flash flood warnings for charleston and
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columbia, south carolina. here is a look at the current radar. more rain is continuing to flow over the same spots. that is why we have such problems with all of the flooding because now you're starting to worry about the drainage that cannot hold all of this water that is coming in. also with the ground completely saturated as it is, it only takes 20, 30 miles per hour winds to knock trees down. that is also why we are starting to see a lot of the power outages begin to go up. forecasted rainfall, again, another 6 to 10 inches of rain expected in parts of charleston all the way up towards wilmington and the windy conditions in the northeast, take a look. 62-mile-an-hour wind in cape may. this is an impressive overall storm all up and down the east coast whether it's the wind or the rain that's a factor. >> allison chinchar, thank you so much. a new clue this morning in a desperate search for missing cargo ship with 28 americans on board. more than 48 hours since the ship disappeared while sailing
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into hurricane joaquin. now the u.s. coast guard says they have recovered a life preserver that belongs to that ship. it's about 70 miles from the ship's last known position near the bahamas. in about 30 minutes we will speak with the coast guard captain on the latest search and rescue operation there. when shots rang out at an oregon community college, it was just the fourth day of classes and now we are learning more about the students gunned down by a gunman as investigators found the shooter had more weapons than they first thought. also, shut down. a humanitarian group says they cannot use an afghan hospital any more. just hours after it's shelled potentially by american fighter jets and killing 19 people. that investigation is under way. we will tell you more. a historic meeting between pope francis and same-sex couple. what do they talk about? we are talking to that couple live straight ahead. when you're not confident your company's data is secure, the possibility of a breach can quickly
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in oregon at umpqua community college, authorities are work to go finish up their investigation and students are preparing to return to campus after a gunman killed nine people on thursday. classes will not be held tomorrow, nor at all this week. but the campus will be reopened to students and faculty on monday. meanwhile, at least four people still in the hospital wounded in last week's attack. dan simon is live in roseburg, oregon. dan, good morning to you. what are you learning? >> reporter: good morning, victor. authorities are releasing more details how this mass atrocity happened and how the shooter himself died. we are told that two police officers arrived on scene five minutes after the initial 911 call and quickly enengaged the shooter. had that not happened, authorities say there certainly would have been more carnage. we are also hearing what one victim told her family about what happened in the classroom and how the shooter decided that
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one person in particular should live, a person he called the lucky one. she is the youngest victim and survived where the umpqua community college shooting. cheyenne fitzgerald made at that time college earlier than most and her 14th day when the shots rang out. >> i heard there was a shooting at the college. i grabbed my purse and keys and flew out of my job. i text my daughter, "i'm on my way to school." but i never went there. i came here. and that is how i found my daughter. >> reporter: a bullet had gone through her back. >> she is currently in icu. she lost a kidney due to her gunshot wound. >> dispatch as many ambulances as possible to the incident. we have upwards of 20 victims. >> reporter: cheyenne is having a hard time reliving the terror, but told her family the gunman had singled out one particular classmate, giving him an envelope, along with a verbal
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message. >> you're going to be the lucky one and to go to the corner. and he told everybody else to go to the middle of the room and lay down. >> reporter: cheyenne's family says she, too, was asked about her religion, but didn't answer. she played dead on the floor. authorities, so far, have declined to discuss a motive and what the shooter gave to that student, but we now know how the 26-year-old gunman died. >> the medical examiner has determined the cause of death of the shooter to be suicide. >> reporter: that, as reports surfaced the gunman told those he was shooting, "i'll see you soon." an implication that he was planning for his own death. >> i have not questioned my daughter about any of this. i don't -- i can't bring myself to do it because i know when she is ready, she will talk to me and tell me, and little bits, she is starting to, you know, let out. >> and to the families of the victims, our hearts are with you
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and you know that our hearts will be with you forever. >> reporter: officials have linked one more gun to the shooter, bringing the total number of guns to 14. victor? >> dan simon, thank you so much. we are also hearing from the father of the gunman who special with cnn's ryan young. his biggest question, how his son could have gotten so many guns. >> i know he will be remembered for what he did on thursday, i know that. i can't change that. at the moment, i'm just leaving it up to the police to do their investigation as to, you know, his history and everything in his background. i'm sure they will announce what they find, all in good cause. right now, i'm just going to leave it up to them. the only thing i would like to
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say is a question that i would like to ask is -- is -- is, how on earth could he compile 13 guns? how can that happen? you know? they talk about gun laws, they talk about gun control. every time something like this happens, they talk about it and nothing is done. i'm not trying to say that is the blame for what happened, but if chris had not been able to get ahold of 13 guns, it would not have happened. >> after this interview, by the way, police say the shooter had 14 guns. they did fine one other handgun in the apartment after that initial tally of 13. >> let's talk about this hospital in afghanistan. it's closed now. just a day after 19 people were killed possibly during a u.s. air strike. we are going to get the latest on those 19 and the investigation. plus, a comment by president obama. we are going to afghanistan in a moment. plus, historic flooding in south carolina.
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you look at this video and you just feel for the people who are trying to rescue this man holding on to a stop sign. the rising waters is forcing more than 100 rescues in one county alone overnight. 27 million could be affected by extreme flooding and continuing the breaking news coverage. much more ahead on "new day." the internet of things. what we're recommending as your consultants... the new consultants are here. it's not just big data, its bigger data. we're beta testing the new wearable interface...
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after yesterday's deadly air strikes hit a doctors without borders hospital in afghanistan. the white house releasing a statement from president obama offering condolences and vowing to get answers. quote, the department of defense has launched a full investigation and we will await the results of that inquiry before making a definitive judgment as to the circumstances of this tragedy. i expect a full accounting of the facts and circumstances. this morning, doctors without borders hospitals no longer functional after what happened there. nicholas metry joins us from kabul, afghanistan. he is a spokesman for the national committee of the red cross. thank you for being with us. i understand you're a couple of hundred miles south of this where bombing happened in kunduz. i understand this hospital was kind of surrounded by a battle between the taliban and afghan security forces which are supported by u.s. troops, that there was actually fighting near the gates. what do you know about the security in that area now?
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>> at the moment, we don't have enough information about the obscure situation around the hospital. as you may know, our staff had been at the hospital at the time of the attack and, of course, quite glad that both of them are safe, but -- but -- but both of them were evacuated out of the area. at the moment, we don't have much information what is happening there. >> what about the survivors, the people that survived this attack taek? where are they and how are they, and what kind of resources on most needed in that area now?wh, and what kind of resources on most needed in that area now? >> we are glad to see our colleague who was at the hospital and was evacuated with the rest of those yesterday and we managed to -- before he went
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home. he was definitely very shaken. not sure the period of time of absolute horror where he was lucky enough to be in the basement taking a break actually. he was quite shaken. that the only person i got to speak to of the survivors personally. he was quite shaken. but he is confident he will be home with his family. i didn't catch the other part of your question. >> i'm sorry, nicholas, we have run out of time. thank you for your time. we appreciate it. thank you. lieutenant general mark hertling is joining us now. the u.s. not taking responsibility. this is an investigation that has been launched. but we have heard from doctors without borders, the head calling it a violation of international law and u.n. official calling it a possible war crime. this is an investigation that is going on. will there be some material
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change of these investigations or more likely after we her from the u.n.? >> we will see. that is the critical part of having an investigation. a lot of people on the ground said they believe this is what happened and there are certainly events that have occurred that caused this tragic event. but what's interesting is we really have to take a look. my experience in combat tells me the first reports are always wrong, there is always things that have happened that you're not aware of. as we were even talking yesterday, we were talking about the potential of fast moving aircraft dropping bombs. now there is a potential of an ac 130 gunship. i know most of your viewers don't know what that is but it's a slow moving cargo plane that is outfitted with cannon and guns that have direct fire pinpointed attacks. it can see what happened. all of that will be part of the investigation. the initial claim of collateral damage could be critical, critically important to all of
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this, but we need really to see that film, we need to understand what happened before we start placing blame. >> we know that the msf and we use these terms fln changeabint. same as doctors without borders. an official with the group say the compound is gated and no staff members saw any fighters there nearby, but there are reports from others that there was fighting nearby. what role will that play, if there was or was not? is this in some way excusable if there was fighting nearby? >> never excusable to fire on a hospital and i think that is the critical part of this investigation. but remember it was 2:00 in the morning. most of the staff were asleep. there had been battles raging all day and there could be movement of troops in and around the border of this camp. it's about the size of a football field. it is a big hospital for that part of the world.
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but, you know, i think we have to see what was going on at 2:10 a.m. in the morning with a battle raging and gates that could have been or could have not been guarded by the security forces of msf. >> i think it's important to point out, as you say, not excusable to fire on an hospital but some are making that distinction because some say there was fighting nearby and others say there was not fighting nearby and hopefully we will get a clearer picture as the investigation continues. lieutenant general mark hertling, thank you so much. >> thank you, victor. intense flooding and rising waters. we are talking about more than a hundred people rescued, thousands of people don't have power right now. folks in south carolina, specifically, are going to have to deal with it for at least another day. we are following the latest on what is being called a crippling storm and all of the water that is still yet to come. plus, missing at sea. the coast guard just finds one piece of a cargo ship, that ship that vanished in hurricane
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this video is south carolina, columbia, specifically. and look at the center of your screen here. people forming a human chain, trying to get to a man who is holding on to that stop sign. that is a street in this city. they are trying to pull him out. you see people there standing, the water up to their knees. they are trying to get to another person here. you see as this video continues, the water is up to a man's neck here. he dips underwater for a moment. and eventually gets back to higher, safer ground. this is what people are dealing
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with primary in south carolina. but in many communities across the east coast. we know in dorchester county, which is there on the eastern coast of south carolina, there have been 140 water rescues overnight. that one county alone, the number of likely is going to grow in a couple of hours throughout this morning. and over the next couple of days as the rain continues. i want you to listen to how a spokesman from south carolina emergency management, eric rousey, described the situation statewide. >> basically, the entire state has been heaard hit by these floods. it's a historic flood, the likes of which we haven't seen. right now, we are -- we have got some rescue operations ongoing in charleston and dorchester counties in particular. we have got swift water rescue teams that are in place now just trying to get people out of the water. >> here is the map of the
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watches and warnings. you see there in red there in south carolina, flash flood warnings and watches and warnings for flood up and down the east coast and up into new york. seven states total affected by these watches and advisories. as many as 27 million people feeling the impact. a u.s. missing cargo ship with 28 americans on board. they recovered a life preserver that belongs to that ship and 75 miles from the ship's last known motion near the bahamas and coming 48 hours since the ship disappeared while sailing into hurricane joaquin. let's get the latest from the coast guard captain mark fedora. thank you again for being with us. was this life preserve found in an area that you would expect it to be, based on the currents or the weather there? and what does it mean to your search today?
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>> yes. good morning. the life ring was found in an area where we were searching and where we expect to find any sign of the vessel. so it was located approximately 70 miles to the northeast of the vessel's last known position. so we had -- we were only able to get to the vessel's last known position yesterday for the first time. and conditions were still very difficult. one of our c-130 aircraft was able to go down to 500 feet, but they still only had a quarter mile of visibility. they are about 50 miles from the eye of the storm so they had a quarter mile visibility and a hundred-mile-an-hour wind. so even though we were at the vessel's last-known position, search conditions were very challenging. so late yesterday afternoon, we found that life ring and that at least validated our search efforts and now we have to recalibrate for today. what we are planning today is we
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have three c-130 aircraft that are up, including one from the air force. we also have a navy p-8 aircraft with a very sophisticated search to surface radar. what we are going to do with that p-8 aircraft is do a track line all the way from the vessel's last-known position to as close as possibly to the hurricane joaquin that is still out there and search that area. we feel like today is our best chance to find that vessel if it's still out there. >> do you believe that there could still be survivors out there? >> yes, we do. we are going to continue searching for the chance there could be survivors there. >> captain mark fedora, thank you so much. we certainly wish you the best of luck you and the crew there as you do this search. >> thank you. >> we hope to hear good news from you at some point soon. take care. the families of that missing crew held a meeting and met with the officials from the shipping company on friday. it is being, as you might
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imagine, described as emotional. those families wondered why the ship sailed into what was then a tropical storm in the first place. the president of the company said the captain told headquarters that he was confident the ship would make it. more than 48 hours after their loved ones disappeared, the families say that they are, as you might imagine as well, holding on to hope. >> you don't say anything. you don't stop hoping. just keep it up. >> reporter: are you hopeful? >> yeah, yeah, yeah. man, you got to be. it's very stressful and hoping everything will be better tomorrow. >> praying. yeah. >> god is in the midst and we know. they will come home safe. they will be safe. >> as we heard from the captain there a few moments ago, they are continuing to search with the hope and belief that there are survivors. we will get the latest on that throughout the morning. now let's move to politics.
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if they had guns, they would have been better off. those are donald trump's comments on gun control at the wake of the oregon shooting. listen to more from trump. >> the second amendment to our constitution is clear. now, this is in light of what has gone on in oregon. every time something happens, they don't blame mental illness that are mental health care is out of whack and all of the other problems. and, by the way, it was a gun-free zone. i will tell you if you had a couple of the teachers or somebody with guns in that room, you would have been a hell of a lot better off. >> played well to the room but let's fact check here. that is not completely correct. although the school itself banned guns oregon's law allowed people to carry their weapons on campus and in other places.
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let's bring in cnn commentator errol lewis and ben ferguson. ben, i'll start with you. what we are hearing from trump is what we have heard from other republican candidates for the nomination. focusing on mental health. where is the mental health plan if that is what needs to be fixed? >> well, i think that is a plan that both democrats and republicans should be able to come together on and have a simple starting point. on many republicans, they have advocated, i'm one of them saying if you're committed against your will by the state that should automatically be a trigger to deal with you not having access to guns for at least a period of time. and i think that is where you could actually have the president come together, with. leaders -- republican leaders and they could push this moving forward. back to what trump said a moment ago. if you have a kid or a husband or wife who was in this class, do you wish there was somebody there possibly that would have a gun that went through training
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and was willing to protect? we always see heroes. people that put themselves in harm's way in these situations, whether it be teachers or classmates that do what they can to stop the gunman but they are not having a fair fight. and we have had gun-free zones. i think this is the most important thing. we have tried this idea all over the country. every single time that one crazy person decide to break that rule, we always lose. so this idea of we have tried it, it's not working, it's time to look at alternatives. >> it's important to say this was not a gun-free zone but there was a ban on campus but -- >> right but most people took the ban on campus as being a gun-free zone so if you're a student there you'll take it. >> i got you. i want to talk about what the president said, people who want stricter gun laws should be as adamant about those as the people who oppose them, in effect, the single issue voters. any evidence that is going to
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happen? >> no. i mean, there are -- there are mothers groups, there are victims of violence groups, the brady campaign that has been going on for decade. but the voting data doesn't suggest that people are willing to do that. nor should they have so. by the way, just -- i mean, by way of just the facts of this most recently massacre out of the hundreds that have already happened this year, there was at least one person with a gun permit on campus at the time. he just happened not to be in the right building. i mean, there is no evidence. you know, you can go back 30 years and you can't find evidence of one single mass shooting that was stopped by one of these mysterious armed civilians -- >> hold on, ben, hold on. >> mysterious armed civilians who were supposed to step in. i'll say having taught at the university level as an adjunct for ten years now. we teach most of the university classes are taught by adjunct.
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you will not turn them into, you know, sort of armed gaurians. if you want to rethink the entire system and have a bunch of shooters who can also teach, you know, algebra or political science or something, good luck with that. >> let me -- victor. >> hold on, this is important. >> limited time, ben! i've got to get this in! >> he just said -- hold on a second! >> i have to get this in. hold on, ben! >> this year. >> hold on for a second. let's get to syria. trump has had comments and limited on time because of the breaking news. i want to get to that as well. let's hear from him on syria. >> so we do have a heart but we can't take them in the country and there is a problem. you could have a trojan horse situation. this could be the ultimate trojan horse. i don't think it is. it probably isn't. but the word probably is unacceptable, right? but let me just tell you. if they come in and if i win, they are going back. they are going back.
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okay? >> ben, errol, i know we could have an entire half hour on gun control. i want to get the comment the idea of bringing some syrian refuges to the u.s. not sure wh saying there. i think he thinks we're bringing in too many people in this country too quickly and he's saying this is just political correctness by saying implying that somehow america must bring in people refugees from countries that are in turmoil. i think there's many people that are going to disagree with him on this one. you can't -- if we're going to bring them in, let's make sure we screen them. let's make sure we know who they are. if we have any doubtsintentions flag. to say you're going to send them immediately back, i would be hard pressed to see that happen.
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>> errol, do you believe it's broader than that? >> i imagine it would get a cheer in some corners but ben is right. you happen to have courts. if people come over here as refugees, they're granted a certain status. the president can't send them back because he feels like it or he's afraid some might be terrorists in training. it sounds like somebody who does what donald trump says he does, which is watch a lot of television to get his ideas about foreign policy. he'll have to do better than that to come up with a serious plan about a serious situation where i think most americans want to actually be of some help and not be guided by, you know, sort of off the cuff comments and getting applause in one room on one night. >> thank you both so much. we'll continue the gun control conversation. reminder to everybody at home, the first democratic debate, you know that topic is set to come
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up. set to take place one week from tuesday 9:00 p.m. eastern here on cnn. donald trump has been the talk of late night laughs. so is hillary clinton. how does secretary clinton do when she's live on saturday night live herself? not talking about kate mcginnon. we're talking about the secretary. the same-sex couple who met with the pope when he was here in america. what did they talk about? we'll ask him next. special olympics has almost five million athletes in 170 countries. the microsoft cloud allows us to immediately be able to access information, wherever we are. information for an athlete's medical care, or information to track their personal best. with microsoft cloud, we save millions of man hours, and that's time that we can invest in our athletes and changing the world.
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you know, in rome today the focus is on family. the pope is playing host to a group of bishops discussing the role of church in family life including whether lgbt families should raise children. today's meeting comes on heels of news that a vatican dismissed a priest who public announced he's gay. the pope has been fairly inclusive of the church's lgbt members saying, quote, who am i to judge. we are joined by blackby who he
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and his partner met with the pope. what did he say to you that stuck with you? >> well, the conversation with pope francis was actually a very private one. it was a meeting between friends. we have been friends for the last 50 years. it was a wonderful way of him being very generous with his time to receive me. i wasn't expecting a private audience with him. i thought it would be just part of a general audience. i was extremely pleased to see him in a more private environment in washington, d.c. >> did he speak at all about your partnership there? about your partner?
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>> my partner was there, and he knows that i am gay. i mean, the pope knows that i'm gay and he has known it for quite some time already. we have never discussed any matters regarding relating to being any gay. he never asks any questions. the only thing i asked him was when we saw each other in buenos air ris what was his opinion about what was about to happen in argentina in 2010 regarding the passing the law of the equal marriage. and he was a very -- he gave me a beautiful and very soft answer and he said what am i to judge? i'm not going to deal with it.
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that is a civic problem. it's not a religious problem. >> if you can say anything to the pope today as he goes into the summit to talk about the church and the family, what would you say to him? what would you hope he would hear from you? >> i wouldn't be as pretentious to say something to him. i think he's one of the nicest people. we are lucky to have him in this kind of turmoiled time. that is a very good question, but a question that i have not thought because i don't think that we can -- that i can tell something to him that he doesn't know or i cannot put him in a situation that he hasn't been put already. >> yayo grassi, thank you.
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what a historic moment for you. but for you especially and your partner. best of luck to you both and thank you for being with us. >> thank you so much. >> of course. take care. >> and thank you for starting your morning with us. your "new day" continues right now. good morning to you. we're following a lot of news this morning. and so great to feel have you on board with us. breaking nudes we are watchiwatch i -- news we're watching this morning is catastrophic and unprecedented. the flooding. look at the pictures coming in. 27 million along the east coast are dealing with situations like this. this specifically in south carolina. you saw there people forming a human chain, a link, trying to pull a man out of the water who was holding on to a stop
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