escape route. he drove straight into the ocean. officers watched from the beach and went and pulled the guy out. the cnn special report starts now. the following is a cnn special report. o.j. simpson on trial for two grisly murders. after nine months of twists and turns. >> if it doesn't fit, you must acquit. >> the one moment -- >> we the jury find the defendant not guilty of the crime -- >> that mattered most. >> now, 20 years later, go behind the scenes. >> you said you had your killer.

why did he walk free? >> inside the jury room. and outside the courtroom for reaction. >> people said, either he's as guilty and terrible as can be or he's guilty. there's no in the middle. >> the o.j. verdict, shock of the century. it's minutes after midnight june 13th, 1994, los angeles police arrive to a crime scene at bundy drive in upscale brentwood. they find no witnesses, no mur weapons, just two murder victims. >> nicole was nearly decapitated. it was a very bloody seen. >> nicole is nicole brown simpson. lying dead beside her,

25-year-old ron goldman. the prime suspect? nicole's ex-husband, football legend, o.j. simpson. simpson promises to surrender and then disappears. >> los angeles police department right now is actively searching for mr. simpson. >> gasps from the press room. only a sign of what is yet to come. >> highway patrol? >> yeah, i think i just saw o.j. simpson on the freeway and he's heading north. >> the famous low-speed chase covered live for hours rivets the nation. and ends with simpson's eventual surrender at his home on rockingham avenue. it was just the beginning. >> this was the perfect soap

opera, the o.j. simpson murder case was the first true reality show for the country. this was the first wall-to-wall trial. >> a month after the murders, the legal proceedings against o.j. simpson begins when he enters this defiant plea. >> absolutely, 100%, not guilty. >> and to help him prove that, simpson assembles a legal dream team. >> each one of them was famous. >> jeffrey toobin covered the trial for "the new yorker." >> there has never been, in american history, more prominent defense lawyers on a single trial than in the o.j. simpson case. >> there's harvard law professor, alan dershowitz. >> an ideal intermediary between

the ivory tower and the gritty world of trial practice. >> famed criminal attorney, f. lee bailey. >> the person you go to when you are really in a lot of trouble and can afford it. and, of course, johnny cochran, who would take the lead. >> flamboyant. outgoing. approachable. fun. and extremely charismatic, while also having considerable mastery of the details of the case. >> and known for defending celebrities like child actor todd bridges, football legend jim brown and superstar michael jackson. but would the all-star strategy work? >> the o.j. dream team was not a dream team. it was a nightmare team. most of the lawyers didn't get

along with each other. there was a lot of competition for the limelight. this is not just any city where an allegation of racism is being made. this is the lapd. and there are scathing recordings about to surface. they asked mark furhman if he's ever used the "n" word. >> i'll use the word because i'm quoting him, all of the niggers put them into a big group and burned them >> but prosecutor chris darden wants no part of it. >> it's the filthiest, dirtiest, nastiest word in the english language. it will upset the black jurors. it will issue them a test, and the test will be, who's side are you on? the side of the white

prosecutors and the white policemen, or the side of the black defendant and his very prominent and capable black lawyer? >> cochran immediately fires back. >> not every african-american feels that way. it's demeaning to our jurors to say that african-americans cannot hear these offensive words. >> the battle lines are drawn. and rather will now determine this trial's outcome. january 24th, 1995, the trial of orenthal james simpson has begun. >> there was a forest of satellite trucks, satellite dishes. people working in trailers. all built so that this trial could go out to the world. >> walking into the courtroom everyday, it was like the red carpet on an arrivals line at

the oscars. how are you doing today, o.j.? oh, marcia, how you doing? how are your kids? what are you wearing? it's ridiculous. it was crazy. >> outside the courthouse, it's a circus. inside, a real life drama unfolding. with millions of people watching. >> the simpson case combined everything that obsesses the american public. it had violence, sex, race, sports, and the only eyewitness was a dog. >> the prosecution's opening statement tells a story of love, lust, and loss of control. >> he killed her because he couldn't have her. >> the trail of blood from bundy through his own ford bronco and into his house in rockingham is devastating proof of his guilt.

>> but johnnie cochran opens with a statement that tells the jurors a very different story. >> the evidence will show that this careless, negligent collection, handling, and processing of samples, by basically poorly trained personnel from lapd, has contaminated, compromised and corrupted the dna evidence in this case. coming up, behind the scenes. >> it's the first time i've ever really seen a heisman trophy. >> and in court with a juror. >> how did that play a part in your decision when it came down to the verdict? s talk asset all. sure. you seem knowledgeable, professional. i'm actually a dj. [ dance music plays ] woman: [laughs] no way! that really is you? if they're not a cfp pro, you just don't know. cfp -- work with the highest standard.

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this is how we knew o.j. simpson. football icon. celebrity pitchman. >> nobody does it better than hertz. >> and movie star. but prosecutors say that dashing public persona hides a much darker truth, that simpson is a violent man. who beat his wife. and it didn't take long before a police detective testifies about an incident in 1989.

>> a woman came running out of the bushes to my left, crossed the driveway. she was a female caucasian, blond hair, wearing a bra only as an upper garment, and she had on dark, lightweight sweatpants and started yelling, he's going to kill me, he's going to kill me. >> then, jurors hear it for themselves, another chilling 911 call from simpson's wife in 1993. >> my husband broke into my house, and he's ranting and raving. >> less than a year before her murder. >> broke the back door down to get in. >> okay, what's your name? >> nicole simpson. >> okay. is he the sports caster or whatever? >> yeah. >> what is he doing, is he threatening you? >> he's going nuts. >> i was like, wow, he can be pretty bad. >> 20 years later, juror number 4, david aldana, remembers that

moment vividly. >> so that 911 tape made an impact? >> yeah, it did, because when you hear someone pounding on the door like that, i think you know his record by now. >> nicole's sister denise tells prosecutors she has seen simpson beat nicole, in person. >> he's grabbed nicole, told her to get out of his house. wanted us all out of his house. picked her up, threw her against the wall. picked her up and threw her out of the house. >> however, defense attorney robert shapiro counters with a completely different image of o.j. simpson. here he is with the brown family just hours before nicole's murder. >> we played for the jury the june 12th videotape, where you saw o.j. simpson at 6:00, 6:30 in the evening of june 12th. he was kissing the brown family,

shaking hands with lee brown. he picked his son up. didn't look bitter and raging. >> so was simpson a warm family man or a violent attacker who cornered and killed two innocent people? the jurors and simpson take a field trip to his house, and the crime scene. >> it was very good for the jury, i think, to see the evidence better, the testimony better and how the victims were essentially cornered. >> what do you remember the most about visiting o.j.'s house, actually going to the crime scene? >> i was like, oh, wow, that's the first time i've ever seen a heisman trophy. we couldn't ask questions. nothing was told to us. don't talk amongst yourselves and don't touch anything. >> and it's this home visit that leads to the very heart of the prosecution's case, the physical evidence against o.j. simpson.

>> can you please describe the appearance of the gloves? >> it appeared a dark leather glove, appeared to be somewhat moist or sticky. i didn't touch it, but it appeared that parts were sticking to other parts of the glove. >> we don't know it just yet, but detective mark furhman was about to take on a starring role in this unfolding drama. >> and now mark fuhrman came up to you and told you he made some discoveries, correct? >> yes. >> so we're clear, it was mark furhman who allegedly found this glove out there near kato kaelin's room, correct? outside? >> yes. >> and it was mark fuhrman who allegedly found the spot on the outside of the bronco, is that correct? >> that's correct. >> and then came this unforgettable witness. >> i heard a thumping noise. >> how many thumps did you hear? >> three. >> simpson's shaggy house guest,

kato kaelin. did you ever expect what was going to happen when you got up there and took the stand? >> no, not at all. that was my first time in a courtroom in my entire life. and i think i was 35 at the time. >> kaelin's four days on the stand thrust him into the national spotlight. >> i even come up with a thing saying never has a man done so little to be recognized by so many. >> today he testified, he said that o.j.'s maid never really liked him. sure. she had to work for her room and board. >> why was kato kaelin so memorable? >> he's an idiot. >> really? >> he's so full of sh- -- oh, sorry. >> that's pretty harsh. >> as a matter of fact, when we were doing our deliberations, he was like a no-brainer. the guy's an idiot and nothing we says, we can't go with or against it. he's null and void. >> i was called so many things.

i was called a celebrity, a pariah, a traitor, a dummy, a freeloader. >> so it seems like you were pretty much misunderstood for a really long time? >> 100% misunderstood. this was something i took so serious that i was making sure i answered everything correctly. so i was in deep thought going, okay, answer this right, kato and that was it. if you pause, people go, he's making something -- he's lying, he's doing this. furthest thing from the truth. it's for me to become even more honest. for me to make sure i answer this thing 100% honest. >> which brings us to the night of the murder. kaelin and simpson make a mcdonald's run. >> about what time was it when you got home? >> it was about 9:40. >> kaelin goes to his bedroom and prosecutors say simpson disappears. a crucial hour passes before kaelin hears a loud noise outside. [ pounds ] >> where did the noise seem to be coming from? >> from the back of the wall.

>> that, prosecutors say, is simpson hitting an exterior wall and dropping a bloody glove. at 10:55, a limo driver waiting to take simpson to the airport spots a black person, six feet tall, 200 pounds. >> i saw a figure come into the entrance way of the house. >> allen parks said he was buzzing the intercom since 10:40 and received no response. proving, prosecutors say, simpson had not been home. >> this time, there was an answer, which was mr. simpson. he told me that he overslept and he just got out of the shower and he'd be down in a minute. >> both park and kaelin notice a dark duffel bag near the rear of simpson's bentley. >> he came out and kato offered to get the bag. he said, no, that's okay. i'll get it.

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no weapons, no witnesses but a wealth of forensic evidence. the team prosecuting o.j. simpson for murder believes they can prove he butchered ron goldman and nicole brown simpson. >> this appeared to be an overkill or a rage killing. >> there was blood everywhere. at the bundy crime scene, at simpson's rockingham estate, and scattered along the route in between. blood, prosecutors say, is simpson's. >> does that mean that these characteristics that mr. simpson has that are also found in the bundy walk bloodstain are only

found in approximately 1 out of 170 million caucasians or african americans? >> yes, approximately. >> and that's not all. blood consistent with both victims was found in simpson's bronco, on that glove discovered behind his house, and on these socks in his bedroom. >> you described that material, that bloodstaining as matching nicole brown, is that right? >> that's correct. >> and then there were the bloody shoeprints in the bronco and nicole's dress. fbi expert william bodziak says those prints came from bruno mali designer shoes, in simpson's size, 12. >> can you include him as a candidate who could have worn the shoes that created the impressions in this case? >> yes, i could include him as a candidate for having possibly

worn the shoes. >> as the trial goes on, attention turns from socks and shoes, to gloves. one found at the murder scene. the other? behind simpson's house. together, prosecutors believe they have proof that simpson's caught red-handed. >> handing mr. simpson the glove. >> that's people's 77. >> what were you thinking when you heard prosecutor christopher darden request that simpson try on the gloves? >> i was sitting in the courtroom, i couldn't find a seat, so i was kind of in the back. and when he did that, f. lee bailey came up to me and he grabbed me and whispered into my ear, he was kind of laughing, why the hell did you let him do that? i didn't know he was going to do anything. chris is a good man, a good prosecutor, a bright man. he should have known better. i remember watching the gloves in the courtroom and thinking to

myself, he's not going to ask o.j. to put on the glove. that's too much of a risk. you never ask a question in a courtroom, much less do a demonstration where you don't know what the outcome is. and it was like a slow-motion disaster movie for the prosecution. as o.j. milked the moment for all it was worth and pretended to try on the gloves. >> after the trial, christopher darden would admit to larry king it was a mistake. >> when it happened in court, did you know you were in trouble? >> i knew that it hadn't gone as well as i had hoped it should have gone. >> did you regard it as earth shattering to the case? >> no, not necessarily. not particularly.

it wasn't until i went upstairs and left the courtroom that i realized people thought it was a monumental failure, a monumental mistake. >> was it chris darden that blew this case? >> chris darden blew this case. marcia clark contributed very heavily too, but chris darden blew it. when o.j. was able to walk in front of the jury and say, it's too small, he didn't have to testify. because he had testified in front of the jury and he wasn't cross-examined. so for us, it was a win-win. >> he appears to have pulled the gloves on, counsel. >> but to juror david aldana, it didn't seem like a big deal. >> o.j. simpson was in front of you when he put on the glove. >> he was maybe about two feet away from me. >> what do you remember from that moment? >> you know, a lot of people make a big deal about it, but i was a truck driver. i wear gloves all the time. i know that when my gloves get wet, they shrink up.

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we think the evidence will show that he did not, could not and would not have committed these particular crimes. ♪ >> johnnie cochran on the attack. >> citing police incompetence. >> some had gloves, some didn't have gloves. picking up the evidence. >> even suggesting a conspiracy to frame o.j. simpson. >> the fact that blood mysteriously appears on vital pieces of evidence is devastating evidence of something far more sinister. >> but the fireworks really begin here.

defense lawyer blasts lapd criminologist dennis fung. >> confronting him about not wearing gloves while handling evidence. and picking apart inconsistencies in his testimony. >> so you did begin evidence collection before the coroners left? >> yes. >> so what you said before wasn't true? >> it was the best of my recollection at the time. >> what do you remember the most about fung getting torn apart? >> oh, man. >> does that refresh your recollection? are you sure of that? >> barry scheck is one heck of an attorney. >> you truly believe that evidence was planted? >> yes. from this day until the day i die, i think it was planted.

>> did you find a glove in the bronco, detective furhman? >> no. >> you did not? >> no. >> did you ever, for a moment, believe that the police wanted to frame o.j. simpson? >> frame him? i think that was in furhman's mind. >> and you say on your oath that you have not addressed any black person as a nigger or spoken about black people as niggers in the past ten years, detective furhman? >> that's what i'm saying, sir. >> so that anyone that comes to this court and quotes you as using that word in dealing with african-americans would be a liar, would they not? >> yes, they would. >> all of them? >> all of them. >> i was focused on mark furhman, his every twitch, his every eye movement and so forth.

i had no notes. i only wanted one thing from him. denial. >> no. never. no. >> once he said never in ten years have i ever used the "n" word, i knew we had him. >> when he was asked that question by f. lee bailey about using the "n" word, everybody in the world knew that he was being set up but him. >> what i didn't know was we also had him on tape. >> four months after bailey versus furhman, the defense gets a tip from an unlikely source, a screen writer. a very candid conversation all on tape. >> he's just a real racist scum. >> now all we're going to look at is furhman and what a scum bag he is. >> furhman says the "n" word

dozens of times but judge ito decides the jury will only hear two. the excerpts are brief, yet powerful and disturbing. >> after the excerpt ended of the furhman tapes, you broke down and cried at that moment. why? >> because i was worried about the ramifications because i watched them with this look of horror and disgust and watched them turn. i was like, that's it. >> that's it. furhman had lied on the stand and used a racial slur. the defense now feels confident they have a racist who planted evidence, a charge furhman denies today and refused to address at the time. >> detective furhman, did you

plant or manufacture any evidence in this case? >> i assert my fifth amendment privilege. >> he refused to answer that question on the grounds it might tend to incriminate him. what more does anyone need? >> furhman is disgraced and dismissed from the case. >> there's no doubt, furhman aztec liar. coming up -- >> if it doesn't fit, you must acquit. >> the unforgettable closing arguments.

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late september 1995, for nine long months, the trial of the century has been a national obsession. >> stop domestic violence! break the code of silence! >> but a casualty of the constant hype is the freedom of 14 men and women the jury has been sequestered hundreds of days. >> we were told it was going to be about three months and then when the third month came and then it was four and then five and it kept going, it just went on and on and on.

>> back in court, o.j. simpson cites the juror's fatigue as one reason he's not going to testify. >> i'm mindful of the mood and stamina of this jury, a jury i have confidence, a lot more than it seems miss clark has, of their integrity and that they will find, as the record stands now, that i did not, could not and would not have committed this crime. >> four days later, the end is finally in sight. >> you have heard all of the evidence. >> no more witnesses, no more delays. just closing arguments. first up, lead prosecutor, marsha clark. >> let me go back to mark furhman, just to be clear. delie when did he lie when he said he did not use racial epitets in the

last ten years? yes. is he a racist? yes? but the fact that he lied about it on the witness stand does not mean we have not proven the defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. >> then comes defense attorney barry scheck. >> there's no doubt furhman's a liar and a genocidal racist. if that can happen, that's a reasonable doubt for this case, period. end of case. >> finishing for the defense, johnnie cochran with probably the most memorable quote of the trial. >> if it doesn't quit, you must acquit. >> you have not used that word -- >> after nine months of testimony, hundreds of exhibits, more than 260 days isolated in a

hotel, jurors are finally sent to determine o.j. simpson's fate. >> thanks for joining us on a day that many of you probably thought would never arrive. >> and everybody had an opinion. >> i think it's going to be a conviction. >> i would say probably a hung jury. >> i believe absolutely there's sufficient evidence to acquit. >> why were you so confident he was going to be found guilty? >> i just couldn't possibly grasp the notion that with all of the overwhelming amount of evidence against him, that they could possibly find him anything other than guilty. >> by the time jury deliberations begin -- the tension surrounding the trial is transparent. and a clear racial division

emerges. >> this idea of race was something that the defense wanted out there. they wanted that in the dialogue because it benefited them. >> two-thirds of americans think o.j. is guilty. 77% of whites think he's guilty. 72% of blacks think he's innocent. >> based upon the way this case was going along racial lines by the end of the case, that if you had a videotape confession and even a videotape of the murder, you'd have people say, i don't believe it. that tape was doctored. that's how bad it got. >> despite rampant speculation outside the courtroom, there are only 12 opinions that really matter. >> we walked into that room, let's see, what do you want to do first? well, let's just see where everybody stands. we went around the room, you know, guilty, not guilty. >> it's two votes guilty, ten not guilty.

>> now, you guys had been sequestered for nine months. you were tired. you hadn't seen your families, your kids, your friends. you wanted to get out of there. were the majority of you working hard to get those two to come on board? >> actually, no. it wasn't arguing or yelling or anything like that. we just came to the -- took another vote and the other two came on board and they said "not guilty" and it wasn't because they thought that he was innocent. it was because the prosecution just didn't prove it. >> aldana still believes the police framed o.j. how is it that with all of this evidence against o.j. that he's set free? >> some of that stuff was planted. and when some of it was planted, what was and what wasn't? >> how did mark furhman play a part in your decision when it

came down to the verdict? >> quite a bit. because everything that he had anything to do with it pretty much got thrown out. i knew he was dirty. after a while, you get a sense of people. >> do you truly believe that the police, the detectives, the criminologists were as incompetent as the defense had made them out to be? >> yeah. i think so. coming up -- >> mr. simpson, would you please stand and face the jury. >> -- the dramatic verdict revealed. and a country divided.

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after a marathon trial, millions of people hold their breath waiting for the verdict to come. >> how long do you think they're going to debate? >> i would be very surprised if they came back in less than two weeks. >> i think at least ten days. >> just never know. people always say, what do you think's going to happen? nobody knows. >> another development now in the o. j. simpson trial. the jurors are being brought back into the courtroom. >> but no one expected this. >> after eight months of trial,

it took the 12 jurors just four hours to reach a unanimous conclusion. >> we couldn't believe it. that it was so fast. >> it took longer to read the jury instructions than their verdict. >> simpson's fate decided but not revealed. >> we are missing, as you can tell, several of the attorneys. i've indicated to them that i will accept the verdicts from you tomorrow morning at 10:00. >> the judge decides to hold the verdict until the next morning. the world would have to wait one more day. >> stunned and shocked may be underestimates as far as reactions go. >> october 3rd, 1995. the sun rises and everyone everywhere is waiting. and watching. >> we were at the beverly wilshire hotel. standing in the suite. the television was on.

looked out. no one was in the street in beverly hills. no one was on rodeo drive. no one. >> i heard there was no crime, like, two hours because everybody was too busy watching waiting for the verdict. >> people around the world stop what they're doing. the final moment in the trial of the century will be broadcast live. >> would you please stand and face the jury? >> the matter of the people of the state of california versus orenthal james simpson case ba-097211. we the jury in the above entitled action find the defendant orenthal james simpson not guilty in the crime of murder in violation -- >> they read it and we heard that and i just fell apart. >> fred and kim goldman are devastated. >> it was as if your insides got yanked out of you. everything that we knew to be

certain that he had killed ron and nicole. suddenly as if, wait a minute, how is that possible? >> and then our side was in shock and then you hear the cheers -- >> the other side of the room. >> -- and the jubilee going on on the other side. >> that division became what was seen across the tvs for several days. it was blacks cheering and whites crying. >> was that verdict about murder? or was it about race? >> the verdict was undeniably about race. >> not guilty -- [ cheering ] >> the people saw what they wanted to see. and it's interesting how it was divided in this case right along racial lines. >> i'll never forget when it was

over, a woman came over to me and said the verdict was like being punched in the stomach. and i said you don't know any of the people, why was it like being punched in the stomach? she said, it was as if this was my brother and sister. everybody was involved. everybody took sides. >> everyone had an opinion, and now? how do you feel 20 years later? did he do it? >> my opinion still is i think he is guilty. that hasn't changed. i found him innocent and i believe he's innocent. >> with all your heart? >> all my heart. >> what's the one thing you can't get out of your mind 20 years later? from that trial? >> that's easy for me. >> what's that? >> son of a bitch got away with it. simple as that. >> as for simpson, he returns to his home in brentwood. but the goldman and brown

families don't give up. they sue simpson for wrongful death in civil court. cameras are not allowed this time, but o.j. simpson's deposition tapes are later revealed to the world. abc's "20/20" played excerpts from the tapes. goldman family attorney questions o.j. simpson. watch as he explains the bruising on nicole's face. >> you see those bruises on her face? >> no. >> you don't see anything? >> no. i mean, i see this -- >> you don't think this picture reflects any bruising or injuries or marks on nicole's face? >> no, i don't. >> what do you think this reflects? >> i think it reflects doing a movie we're doing and we're doing makeup. >> and what about the shoes that left bloody footprints at the crime scene? >> i know if bruno makes shoes that look like the shoes they have no court that was involved in this case, i would have never worn those ugly ass shoes.

>> simpson again denies wearing the shoes, but the attorney does something the prosecutors in the criminal trial never could. he proves o.j. simpson owned the very same pair of shoes. >> and that is a picture of you looking at exhibit 1, correct? >> of me, yes. >> looking at the close-up of the shoes, you believe those were shoes you owned at that time? >> no. >> the victims' families win the civil case and are awarded millions of dollars. but o.j. simpson still leaves court a free man. until 2007. >> simpson back in jail accused of rounding up a middle-aged posse and sticking someone up in a vegas hotel room at a low -ret casino. >> o.j. simpson was on trial again for armed robbery and kidnapping in nevada. but this time a different verdict.

>> the state of nevada plaintiff versus orenthal james simpson defendant, we the jury in the above entitled case find the defendant orenthal james simpson guilty. >> exactly 13 years to the day after he was acquitted in the murders of nicole brown simpson and ron goldman, o.j. simpson is found guilty on all charges. he's sentenced to 33 years in prison. at his age, it's possible he'll spend the rest of his life behind bars. but in the eyes of lapd detective tom lang, it's for the wrong crime. does o.j. simpson deserve to rot in jail? >> not for what he's there for now. that's almost laughable. but, yeah, he deserves to be in jail for murder. for slaughtering two people.

not giving a damn one way or the other. new details tonight on the man who shot and killed nine people on an oregon college campus before turning the gun on himself. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. online clues about the killer appear to be from the person who knew him the best. his mother. we have the very latest for you. plus, our cnn democratic debate less than a week away and this is shaping up to be the most unpredictable race in a very long time. the $10 billion man not going away not any time soon. i want you to listen to what he tells our chris cuomo. >> i'm not going anywhere, chris. i'm leading every poll. i'm leading every state. i'm not going anywhere. plus, hillary clinton coming out swinging now if