public awareness program for why government matters. >> well, we appreciate your time. we thank you. best of luck. >> thank you so much for having me. >> that is it for us tonight. i'm see you right back here tomorrow night. "ac360" starts right now. >> good evening. thanks very much for joining us tonight. the world's too nuclear super powers coming too close for comfort over syria. they are apparently fighting two different wars, pursuing two different agendas. not just elbow to elbow today, eyeball to eyeball. barbara starr is monitoring from the pentagon. what happened today. >> reporter: there were two

m-16s trying to strike an isis target when russian aircraft came within nautical miles of them. under the new rules, the u.s. pilots broke off and let the area. the rules are if the russians come within that 20-mile limit, the u.s. backs off. it's not that they think the u.s. is going to shoot them down, but they don't want any mistakes happen until they reach a technical agreement about how they will both fly in the sky over syria and keep themselves safe. and the u.s. noticed the ships moving into the southern caspian a day ago, launching two dozen highly precise missiles in a naval bombardment in western syria. what this is underscoring the

u.s. says is the overwhelming minority of the targets the russians are hitting now from the sea and from the air are in fact not isis targets but are anti-regime targets, people trying to get rid of bashar al assad and the russians trying to keep him in power. >> barbara, thank you. just six days before the democratic debate and there's new polling. there's pretty sobering news from jeb bush from voters in his own home state. john king is here to break down the numbers. john, there are some warning signs, understand. >> there are some warning signs. this is a quinnipiac poll. these numbers will change when the people get to vote in the early states. at the moment people are asking

is trump holding on to his lead. if you take this long view, yes. if you look at the florida numbers, marco rubio, sitting uncti united states senator, trump has bragging rights when it comes to florida. ohio, never one has ever won the white house without winning it. donald trump also in pennsylvania. again, they don't vote for a while. it does show you trump has staying power in the race at the moment. here are the warning sign, though. in each of these states, 3 in 10 republicans, 29%, 29%, 31% say they would definitely support donald trump under any circumstances. these people are say they go would never support him. it's hard for him to grow. he's underwater when it coombs to favorable and unfavorablein all of these states.

when they're asked the question is he honest and trustworthy? a majority, exactly the same, 54% in each of these three battle ground states say no. these states definitely matter come the general election. at the moment trump's been in the race for a while and his numbers are bruised up, like a politician. >> let's look at the democratic side. >> democratic, hill ary clinton not as bad as trump but when it comes to favorably/unfavorably, 51, 56%. she's trying to change all these numbers. 6 in 10 voters in all of these battleground states, hard to win the white house without at least

two of those three saying hillary clinton is not honest and trustworthy. this is a huge challenge for her to change those honest and trustworthy numbers. three in ten republicans in each of these states said under no circumstances would they vote for donald trump. hillary's numbers are just lower. meaning that if she is the democratic nominee, she'll have a much easier time than a donald trump would in consolidating support and unifying the party. >> if joe biden is deciding to run now, good news for him? >> remember trump and clinton were underwater. joe biden is above water if wh you ask voters do you view him favorably when you look at these numbers. moving on, is he honest and trustworthy? in today's politics these are

off the chart good numbers. compare that to hillary clinton, people don't think she's honest. joe biden is. they can look at these numbers, people think i'm honest, they view me favorably. he's the new car on the lot right now. if joe biden gets into the race and takes a few laps, he'll probably get a little pruzed up, too. >> donald trump always has plenty to say about his poll numbers. also, he not exactly shy, as you know. he's not just a gop flash in the pan, including one other who was born in the town who was trying to win support. he here's what he said about michele bachmann and a lot more. >> i'm not going anywhere, you

know. you've got the same mentality, right? we're not going anywhere. i watched one of the politicians the other day. he's at 1. no chance. would you get it out? absolutely not we're in it till the end. you know they're going to cans el outneck week. -- cancel out next week. so they always say, well, they were there. they've been there for a week. we've been there for more than three months. you could see jeb was very disturbed. but they ent up to him and said what do you think about marco rubio? i would have said horrible things. but i saw jeb and he said, "oh, i love marco, he's a dear, dear guy, he's my friend friend." you can see he's seething underneath.

then they said to marco, what do you think of jeb? he said jeb is jeb is my dear, dear friend. i said to myself this is political speak, that's why we're not getting anywheres are folks. >> joe co-chairs a hillary clinton super pac. paul, let's start on the democratic side because, i mean, we have this first debate coming up on tuesday. as much as these numbers show hillary clinton doing well, even if joe biden does get into the race, you've got to want him to get, don't you? or do you not? >> i've known him a very, very long time. believe me, if my brother runs -- >> do you think it will make hillary a better candidate if joe biden enters? >> yes. joe biden, hill hi and barack obama all ran against each other

in the last time and it produced a democratic victory. it made barak a bnt candidate and he might win, for goodness sakes! i don't think he will, quite frankly. i think hillary win, but he can do a lot of good for his family. >> do you see people start to maybe doubt him or tiring of sort of the shtick? i mean, he's still leading nationally. he's still leading these three key states polled by wean pee. >> in their home state of florida, do you see anything that worries you as a supporter? >> no, no.

he's going to sail on here. the difference between donald trump now and herman cain and michelle bach mann, they're great people i. >> when you talk to people, when you read the ternls of a lot of these polls, people are really, really angry out there. they're very upset. they want change. they're looking to donald trump as someone who they sees is a serious change agent. that is not going away as these polls and three swang states indica indicate. >> we are very close to trump having the same problem that hillary's had, which is that everybody expects them to run

the table. hillary will not win every primary and caucus. nor she should have to. no republican have ever won iowa and ig -- the governor of flarks, two-term government is so low that if you doubled bush's votes in the pole, i think that the little built here -- >> you do. >> i do. but they may have set the bar too high for mr. trump. >> we have to leave it there. very briefly, joe. >> donald trump is a better bad because that's a good thing, not a bad thing. >> jeffrey lord, appreciate you being here as always. there is breaking news o on the oregon mass shooting. new information about why the gunman was discharged from the

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welcome back. we have breaking news. dr. ben carson reacting to how would i react to a situation like umpqua college? >> i would not just stand there and let him shoot me. i would say, hey, guys, let's all get him, he may shoot me won't get us all.

>> he denied he was being insensitive. dr. carson also facing criticism where he wrote "i never saw a body with bullet holes that was more devastating than taking the right to arm ourselves away." >> mr. williams, does dr. carson regret saying "i would not just stand there and let him shoot me?" >> no. a part of who dr. carson is, anderson, is you've seen these situations so many times and no matter how many times you talk about gun legislation, stopping this violence, as the president stated, it seems that it's routine in this country now and you've got to think that you could be in the path of these

terrorists and you've got to think about how to react and what to do. and what dr. carson was saying is he would be willing to put his life on the line, in danger, willing to take a bullet to make sure more people were not part of the carnage. there's nothing to regret. i think most people can relate to that. >> but how does he actually now how he would react? senator lindsey graham responded unless one has been in a situation where you're being fired at, you don't know how you're going to react. >> that's a fascinating question. i know you've been in the line of fire. i think that is the question. you know, i had a situation early on in washington, d.c. when i was with my brother and some friends and we were walking in the dark over near connecticut avenue in washington d.c. and you heard somebody screaming for their life, you could tell they were being beaten and attacked.

without hesitation i zoomed around the corner, i found myself in the melee. they were trying to cut this guy's hands off. had i not intervened, he would have been killed. now, my brother who was with me and his friend thought i this lost my mind. none of us will know how we act in a situation like that where you put your life on the line. dr. carson feems in those circumstances that would be the reaction. >> do you have see, though, how some people might find it or believe that in some way he was criticizing the victims who were not able to fight back, who ended up being killed? >> no way. if anyone knows dr. carson, if they watched him, if they read him and they know what he spent most of his life doing? that is the last thing that anyone could ever imagine that dr. carson would be so heart

less and surprise to act like a dr. carson in that situation? >> you say act like a dr. carson. we have know way to know how a dr. carson would react because he was not in that situation. >> i'll tell you this, as i was watching i was saying, yup, he's the kind of guy that would put his lives in jeopardy to save other lives. >> there was a gentleman who did attempt to do something, got shot seven times for it and dr. carson was asked about him this morning on the cbs morning show and he didn't know the guy's name. his name is chris mintz, he's an iraq war vet, rushed the shooter, it was his son's birthday, he was calling out telling the shooter it was his son's birthday. should dr. carson talk about what he would be doing in an incident if he doesn't really

know the details of what happened in that incident? >> you know, anderson, there are many stories, there are many things you must watch and be a part of as a presidential candidate, you i don't think they'll find this shocking that there coombs a time when the presidential candidate or even president of the united states may not have all the details. it doesn't minimize the fact that he cares, he's empathetic and he cannot talk in terms of the news, what we can do as human beings to show our humanity is to prevent further carnage and people from being injured. >> mr. williams, pressure. >> there are steps could take and they could save your life. randi kaye tonight investigates. >> reporter: as disturbing as

this looks, it's only a simulation, a training video designed to teach people how to respond to an active shooter threat. no plan and experts say your chances of surviving drop dramatically. a training program known as alice was developed by a dallas fort worth police officer, whose wife was an elementary school principle. alice is the first training program of its kind of that teaches pro active survival strategies. it stands for alert, lock down,

inform -- lockdown, inform, counter, evacuate. the worst thing potential victims can do is wait to act. once you are aware of the shooter, alert others. >> is this 911? there is a shooter outside the building. >> reporter: then go into lockdown. as more information comes in, inform police. but what if the shooter is already inside your classroom like in oregon? experts suggest trying to negotiate with him. if that doesn't work, then hiding or playing dead. only as a last resort should you physically confront a shooter. throw anything you can at him, chairs, books, whatever it is to distract him, disruptions that create noise and movement can hurt the shooter's accuracy, that could be a life-saver. countering the suspect is all about survival. and finally, if you can, evacuate. randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> as we said, we're just now learning more about the roseburg shooter's time in the army.

what are you learning, ryan? >> anderson, we are learning now details. the gunman from the oregon college shootings tried to kill himself for the reason for his discharge from the army. we're learning that from sources that told pamela brown this information. a lot of questions why he was discharged. we're leaning it was because of a suicide attempt. >> and i understand police released details regarding events of the day of the shooting itself. >> more heroic action from police officers. two detectives arrived and knew there were 35 students inside. they heard shots but did not want to fire until they had an eye on the shooter and once they had the eye on the shooter, they fired three shots toward him hitting him once in the side. the two officers being called heroes did not want to step in front of the cameras today. >> appreciate the update. a keeping them honest investigation about a scam you might have gotten a call about yourself. crooks getting you on the phone saying you've won the lottery and trying to get you to hand over thousands of dollars as a deposit. they hustled hundreds of millions of dollars and living in luxury in jamaica. the investigative team is on the case tonight. do..whatever.freedom to

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them honest investigation that brought them to a caribbean island, a conn that say you won a large amount of money and all you have to do is pony up taxes in cash and the money is yours. not true. it began five or six years ago in jamaica and grown into a title wave of fraud and it's in montego bay. how bad? we sent drew griffin. >> reporter: these are jamaica's special organized crime police. acting on a tip and finding a suspect in a back room. >> right down! >> reporter: the evidence police say is everywhere. >> here we have the sim card. >> reporter: caught with two cell phones, lists of u.s. phone numbers and piles of cash, corporal kevin watson tells us the suspect was trying to actually eat paper notes of what the police say are his potential victims, u.s. and canadian citizens that have fallen for

this $300 million a year scream >> here we have the laptop. so he tossed it in the water. >> right. wow, look at that. see what it did? >> reporter: drove a nail in it? >> he drove a nail to destroy evidence. >> reporter: the suspected scammer yet to plea in court will face the first appearance next month. if convicted he will most likely serve a lengthy prison sentence. chris poland would like it to be more severe. >> i would be part of the team that comes down there and catch the guy that i talked to and talked to my dad and i got the personally torture him and then hear him scream and beg, beg to save his life. and then i won't tell you what i would do to him, but it wouldn't be nice. >> reporter: poland lives in

knoxville, tennessee. his father fell victim to relentless calls from scammers saying he won the jamaica lottery. he had early stages of dementia and believed it. >> people called and said he won a mercedes full of money. >> reporter: albert poland believed all he needed to do to get $3 million in prize money was cover the expenses, taxes he was told, shipping and handling, even travel fees. his wife says he may have sent thousands of dollars and the calls never stopped. >> we looked back on the checkbook and he went back, i'd say three to four years. >> reporter: three or four years. >> that he talked to these people. >> reporter: and had he been giving money the whole time? >> giving some money, yeah. >> reporter: on march 21st, albert poland took his last call after being asked for $15,000 he put a gun to his head and killed himself. his family was convinced it was the false promises that drove him to suicide.

they were really preying on him? >> uh-huh. >> reporter: albert is one of thousands of people mostly elderly that answer a phone call and find themselves entangled in a complex skillful scheme to rip them off. the u.s. ambassador says it's hard to keep track of how much money has been stolen. >> we have maybe tens of millions of dollars which we can definitely prove that it's involved, but we really think that it's a bit higher in the hundreds of millions of dollars and some people will even tell you $1 billion. >> reporter: in jamaica, the lottery scram created much bigger problems. it has morphed into an organized crime wave, bigger than drugs, one-third of the murders on this island are attributed to the lottery scram. >> it's a monster doing more damage to jamaica than good. >> reporter: above hillside slums near montego bay, we go on

a tour of lavish homes that was built with lottery scram money, people that operate rings of callers like the man under arrest who spend day after day trying to reach gullible victims. >> this one was dialled at 10:47, 10:46, 10:45 and each of these numbers are different. 10:44, 10:42, so it's a pattern. the verdicts are sometimes are told you fill out a sweepstakes form and we're calling you to tell you that you have won. >> reporter: the poland family has no idea where the scammers got albert's phone number. they have a hunch it came from his medical records that showed he was elderly, suffering from dementia and an easy mark. >> they took my life. we was married 62 years, and when they took him, they took my

life, too. >> that's so awful for that family. i mean, is there, first of all, a jamaican lottery people could win? >> there is a jamaican lottery you play in jamaica like state lotteries in the u.s. fill out numbers, if the numbers hit you win. no one is going to call you and tell you you won, period. if you are offered a prize but told to send money to cover taxes, transfers, anything, it's a scram, hang up. >> the fact that criminals are praying on the elderly, lonely, despicable. >> you heard the corporal there down in jamaica talk about a sucker list. the biggest suckers are the most gullible and that's why this is so tough. many of these victims are lonely and get phone calls and start believing these scammers are their friends, some even think they are their lovers. the scammers keep coming,

stealing money, getting more money wired to them, keeping the promises up. the victims don't want to believe they are being scrammed and when they realize it, they are so embarrassed they don't come forward to the police and the police in jamaica and u.s. are working together, both sides trying to stop this and quite frankly, getting the word out with stories like tonight. anderson? >> terrible for so many people. drew, thank you. good reporting. just ahead, i'll talk to the family that showed amazing strength and courage. if you didn't see this last night, watch tonight because we'll actually talk to the family live the family that rescued a man and his dog trapped in ranging flood waters. find a machine at drscholls.com because at&t and directv are now one! which means you can access your dvr at the dmv. change channels while he changes pants. you don't have to be a couch potato, you can be a train potato! and let them watch all the shows they love,

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in south carolina authorities say the beavercreek dam is stabilized, huge reflect. it was expected to fail. the record-breaking flood waters are still claiming lives, the bodies of two missing people were found today. their truck went off a road damaged by flooding. 17 south carolinaens have died. hundreds of people and animals needed rescuing. last night gary tuchman told us a story that was so heart-warming and incredible. it's about one very close call.

>> reporter: tom and julie were trying to make sure neighbors were safe and they found a scar stuck to a face. his son brice shot this video as his father made his way to the car. >> i see this little hand come out of the window and i'm like oh my god. that's not what you want to see. so he's waving and that means, you know, you got to go get him. >> i couldn't stand up. the current was too strong there that would have swept me away. tom hardly could stand on his own feet, now he had to drag me, too. >> reporter: tom hugged george from the back. george hugged his yorkie. at one point george started to float away and tom grabbed him but couldn't make the last 50 yards. it was his wife and son brice came in the water and to the rescue. bringing george, tom and yes, tila to safety. >> when you see when somebody left saved your life, really and

not only mine, my dog's, too, like, you know, of course. this man is unbelievable. >> reporter: certainly is. extraordinary strength and courage on the part of the family and speaking of extraordinary, george is 86 and was driving from his home in ottawa, canada to his condo in florida when he ran into trouble. we wanted to talk to him tonight but he was rested up and back on the road today in a rental car headed to florida. i'm honored to talk to tom, julie and brice hall. thank you for being with us. i was so moved by what you-all did and where do you find the strength to carry george and his dog through that flood water? >> anderson, i don't know how to answer that question. when we got to george, when we found george and we knew he was out there, we basically tried to regroup and go back to my house and get ropes and equipment and kayaks and gear and call 911 to get help to go out and rescue

george. and when we got back to the area where george was and got out to george, it was really just a situation where i had to go to george and we tried many different methods to get to george and we finally got to george. time was going by pretty quickly, and the situation was just getting worse and as far as strength to get back, i didn't have another option. i mean, it was pretty dicey there for the entire situation. >> yeah, george -- >> i don't know where i got that. i've been thinking about it. >> george yesterday said he looked in your eyes and he could tell you were tired and exhausted by the time you got to him. i hate to ask you this, tom, but was there ever a moment you thought you might not make it back? >> the whole time i went out there, i was trying to just be as safe as possible and just focus on one step at a time, and get closer and closer and be as safe as possible and keep my feet moving and keep on the ground and just keep focused on

george. and when i saw him and got to him, there was definitely a moment when i got him out of the vehicle i had to get in the vehicle to get him out of the vehicle, he was very calm but he was almost, he had been in the water for two or three hours, so he was focused on the dog and getting the dog safe and i was focused on trying to keep him calm and get away from the car and get back to the safest spot i could get to, which is through a lot of debris and through a big wave and i just wanted to go one step at a time. when i got him out of the car and onto the road, it was a moment where we didn't know how far we could go and we just had to kind of regroup and pray and

keep moving forward and hope for the best but definitely, anderson, at one point i didn't know if i could hold on to him and i thought i could drop him and i looked down at george and i thought every time i go to sleep i'll see this phase the rest of my life if i let him go. i didn't want to risk my life and his life and decided at that point i was in all the way to the shore and we were together and we were going to get as far as we could and that's what we did. >> julie, you actually had to get in the flood water to help out your husband and george and actually bring them both to safety in those last 50 or so yards. what was going through your mind as all this was happening? >> i mean, i don't really remember a lot of it but it was super scary. i was worried -- i saw tom's face and he was white as a sheep and i just, you know, put on a life jacket and waded out to him and said are you okay? he said no. and then, you know, my heart sank and he -- i was very, very concerned at that point but we got -- he got half of george and i got the other side and we pulled him over about another from where they were to half way

to safety and then brice came in and then helped us get him the rest of the way over. just, you know, it's hard to remember a lot of what happened the adrenaline so was strong but i'm so grateful everybody is okay. >> brice, i know you wanted to get out there and help and your dad said you had to stay back. that must have been difficult to get out there but you were able to wade in at the crucial moment of help. >> yes, eventually yes, i was. the entire time i was terrified because my dad was about chest deep in water the entire time and so hard to stand back there and watch your dad basically in death jaws with this old, old man and his little dog. i could be doing something and helping but you being forced to evacuate. so it was one of the hardest

things to do to stay back. >> i mean, we all wonder if testing had we would rise to the occasion and i mean, tom, julie and brice, i just, what you did is the greatest thing i've heard in a long, long time and i so appreciate you talking with us tonight. thank you so much for everything. >> thank you for focussing on our city and colombia and giving us support and letting people know what's happening down here. we appreciate that. >> thanks for having us. >> thank you, take care of yourselves. clshz drk we get up to 10 billion data requests every day. the cloud allows us to scale up so we can handle that volume. we can help keep people safe; and to us that feels really good.

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an nfl player suspended for domestic violence refusing to answer questions about the incident that took him off the field. greg hardy suited up for the cowboys for the first time since the suspension and when asked whether he has an intention to work with domestic program violence programs, he said the best way to win the game is stick with the ball and run the ball. it went like that. >> your thoughts about going through the legal process and the challenge and where you are now? >> man, once you put that helmet on, you only have thoughts of winning. >> over what happened that led you to be out this long or do -- >> i'm sorry, i couldn't be here for my teammates. >> what have you learned as a man throughout this process? >> that you should probably eat before you go to practice. >> when asked about facing tom brady in his cowboy's debut, hardy said have you seen his wife referring to super model gazelle and hoped she, her sister and all her friends come to the game. again, kind of maybe an odd choice of words. joining me is rachel nickels. for someone kept out for so long based on this, kind of surreal. >> what's the opposite of contrition? that was greg hardy and what is so frustrating is not that the comments themselves were disgusting and he went on by the way, he didn't just say he likes playing tom brady because he has a hot super model wife and she should bring her sisters and

friends but votes for players to be in the pro bowl based on how hot their wives are. objectify further. the nfl's program when it deals with domestic violence offenders isn't supposed to keep him off the field but teach them something and he doesn't look like he learned anything. >> you talked to or asked an nfl commissioner about this roger goodell. >> he was available to the media and when i asked about greg hardy's comments he said he hadn't heard them yet which sun true or perhaps he's very uninformed for being the commissioner of the nfl. either way it's disturbing. once i laid out the comments, listen to what he said. >> a very, very small percentage of men who don't follow policies. when they don't, they have to be held accountable and we'll do everything we can to prevent that to intervene and to try to make sure that we get them to follow policies and see the way the nfl does things, the standards we hope to uphold and won't compromise. >> maybe these are standards he hopes to uphold, but when they found jerry jones and they asked about about greg hardy's

comments, that continues through ownership. jerry jones said quote, hey, when i saw tom brady marry giselle, his rating went up. that's what they are teaching in dallas. >> thank you. up next, we saw the deadly side of motorcycle clubs in the shootout in texas and are seeing other sides. lisa ling joins me. she got incredible access and joins me next. the internet of things. what we're recommending as your consultants... the new consultants are here. it's not just big data, its bigger data. we're beta testing the new wearable interface... ♪

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in just a few minutes, a new episode of "this is life with lisa ling" may challenge everything you know about motorcycle clubs. when they make news, it's usually not good, in may 170 people arrested and no one has been actually charged that left nine dead and 20 injured. what happened is still a mystery as are the general workings,

what goes on day to day. lisa ling got extraordinary access to the club and i'll speak with her but first, a quick preview of tonight's episode. >> can you talk about the patches on the back of the vest? >> it's a mongol's top rocker, center patch with the conand bottom rocker that identifies the state that the brother is from. >> and do you have to earn those? >> well, i mean, you earn them in steps. it's a three-step process. >> a perspective member first earns the bottom rocker and then the center patch and when he finally earns the top rocker, he becomes a full fledged member. >> everything is in here i needed. >> the significance of the patches runs deep. can you talk about what that meaning is for you? >> for me it's total commitment to this club. i would be willing to take a bullet for a brother and a brother who would be willing to take a bullet for me, so you get

brothers there to help you out. >> people have fought and died for -- >> right. >> -- for the patches. >> for sure, right. >> and lisa joins us now. it's great to see. the access you got is pretty incredible. how did you manage that? >> well, anderson, after the shootout in waco that you referenced, law enforcement has been all over these motorcycle clubs, particularly those called 1 percents and they dubbed them out laws. after a funeral of the banditos, one of the clubs involved in the shootout in waco, i started to reach out to them, but because they had so many people locked up and awaiting charges, they didn't want to talk. so we started to reach out to other 1 percenter clubs and the one club the federal government is targeting the longest and hardest, the mongols, agreed to give us access because they want the world to know who they are. >> they don't call themselves as a motorcycle gang but a motorcycle club.

and are clear about that. >> that are defiant about the fact they are a club. the mongols like other 1 percenter clubs, have a violent history and members of the club have been arrested and sent to jail or prison but the mongols maintain that they are a different club today than they were ten years ago. >> do they talk about how they earn the patches? >> they touch on it. they didn't want to be that forthcoming, but they certainly touch on how they earn some of the patches. you know, they and other 1 percenter clubs are secretive and media is almost never allowed access but the mongols have been under indictment by the federal government for the last seven years and it's very important for them now to get the message out about who they are. the membership is very vast. they have clubs, chapters all over the world -- >> right, not just the united states. this is global. >> well, this club has chapters in thailand, germany, uk, australia, it's a global club. >> fascinating stuff. great to see you and hope to see you soon. we'll be watching the show tonight that starts in a matter of seconds. we'll be back at 11:00. this is "life" with my buddy

lisa ling. it starts right now. i'm in east los angeles surrounded by hundreds of men. law enforcement calls them a criminal organization. they are a notorious group with a violent history. >> we demand respect. we don't take [ bleep ] from nobody. >> an outlaw biker club that's at war with the federal government. >> they are trying to decimate all one percent motorcycle clubs. >> they are highly secretive. >> i would rather not say. >> no comment? okay. >> they never let the media inside their world until now. >> nice to meet you. thes