call. are there parallels this morning between the turmoil in the house and the rise of outsiders like donald trump and ben carson in the presidential race? let's begin our coverage with cnn political reporter manu raju on capitol hill what's happening now? >> capitol hill is still reeling after that stunner yesterday when kevin mccarthy dropped out of the race to succeed john boehner, throwing the gop into a state of disarray and panic. now attention shifts to a crucial meeting later this morning where house republicans will privately press one influential wisconsin republican into taking the speaker's gavel. paul ryan, many republicans see as the lone lawmaker who can get the house in order. >> there are a number of folks encouraging paul ryan to step up. i think he would be a consensus candidate.

>> reporter: ryan, suddenly back in the spotlight after a chaotic day on capitol hill. kevin mccarthy, the republican front-runner to replace john boehner abruptly pulled out of the speaker's race. >> i don't want to go to the floor and win with 220 votes. i think the best thing for our party right now is that you have 247 votes on the floor. if we are going to be strong, we have to be 100% united. >> reporter: mccarthy's move blind siding his colleagues and leaving the fractured republican party in disarray. >> out of the way. >> reporter: with his budgets aimed at overhauling medicare, ryan has quickly become a favorite of the conservative wing of his party. he's a prolific fund-raiser and close to the party establishment. he appears to have the job locked up only if he wants it. >> somebody in the leadership said they are thinking more and more paul might say yes. >> reporter: sources tell cnn ryan has not shut the door to the prospect and will listen to his colleague's pitches at

today's gop meeting. ryan refused to rule out a speakeress's run, telling cnn this is not the time or place to discuss it. there are still two candidates in the speaker's race. if ryan doesn't get in, the list of candidates is bound to grow. for now, republicans are left grappling with a leadership vacuum just as congress is about toe deal with major fiscal issues. >> it's easy to be against something. when you're in the majority and you've been given this opportunity and great responsibility to govern, you have to advance an agenda. >> reporter: ryan long resisted efforts to jump into the speaker's race after he watched boehner struggle to govern this unruly caucus and knowing that every word will be heavily scrutinized as kevin mccarthy learned himself after his comments that the benghazi oversight committee was men to the hurt hillary clinton. >> manu, stay with us. we want to bring in the

editorial director for the journal and errol lewis at new york one. manu asked kevin mccarthy the burning question. was this benghazi-related. he said, well, that wasn't helpful. what's the back story here. >> for sure. he made the comments about the benghazi committee hurt hillary clinton's presidential chances. he made it sound in some ways that was one of the main motives of the actions of the committee if not its formation. that blew up in their faces. a couple of news cycles, two or three days after commentary. she's always best when she can counter punch and say they're all out to get me. this is somebody who didn't need to say anything like that. it was a throwaway comment. if you're going to be the speaker of the house, third in line to become president of the united states in a kris igs, you've got to be able to think a little better on your feet. that sort of got the ball rolling. and then all of the other factors start coming in and the politics went sour for mccarthy.

>> ron, this is a staggering power play here. this is 40 people who essentially didn't just push out as speaker john boehner but now have prevented kevin mccarthy from taking the seat. there are 247 republicans in the house. of those 247 republicans, there are 40 who are members of the so-called freedom caucus. that is the group that just has been standing firm and saying you know what, no way, no way on john boehner and now no way on kevin mccarthy. can 10% of the house of representatives continue to hold up, you know, the legislative, governing process of the united states? >> the mainstream conservative caucus, if they let them. it's an extension of what we've been seeing on a anybody of issues where you have a group of republicans unwilling to go along with the rudimentary tasks of governing. if you look at the big picture,

we are seeing them take the house back to the condition it was in really from the 1930s to the 19780s where you had a partisan majority but not an ideological majority. the conservatives among the republicans are the largest single faction in the house. they are not 218 votes anymore. you have an antagonistic caucus and you have democratic factions of kind of the more liberal democrats and the more rad rat democrats. people used to talk about four-party politics for decades in the house. no single faction could pass a bill. you had a bill coalition among them to pass a little. republicans have chosen to build their coe legs within their own party. there is another choice. the republicans who are now complaining that they're being held hostage to some degree are hostages by their own choice and decision not to try to work across party lines on some of the big issues. >> manu, why is everybody

clamoring for paul ryan? >> daniel webster really only appeals to that segment of republicans ron was referring to, the hard-line conservatives are getting behind him. that's only about 40 votes. you need 218 to be elected speaker, 125 to be nominated by your party. jason chaffetz, he's not totally loved by the establishment wing or conservative wing. his support is not as deep as others. that's why paul ryan is viewed as the consensus candidate. you hear moderates, i quoted charlie den in the that story, he was a moderate, he who's supporting paul ryan and you is conservatives who love paul ryan as well. he's a rare candidate that can do that. i talked to republican officials and he was saying he's the only ka candidate who can get more than 230 votes.

>> the irony is, he said no way not once but twice. he doesn't want this job or didn't want it because of his life. more than that he doesn't want the hassle. he wants to have a career going forward. there hasn't been a house speaker who left the post in his own terms since tip o'neill in '86. >> his personal politics, ambition, on the other hand, this is somebody who can stand in the national spotlight. we watched him on the campaign trail when he ran in 2012. he acquitted himself rather well. he seemed to be comfortable. he went to so many districts all over the country he's in some ways the person who has the whole description, the whole job description there. he's probably going to have to sit with his advisers, his family and decide, i can be speaker ever the house, do

something for the country. that's not a big thing to do or hold out and see if there's a senate seat in his future. >> always fun to talk about the intrigue and see these inner workin workings. here's the schedule coming up and why this is so important and why it's not good for congress to be in disarray. nine days away until the highway trust fund returns out. 13 days away until the debt ceiling deadline. 25 days until the federal budget expires. these are real issues that congress needs to deal with. >> right. it's not just whetho's in contr here. if paul ryan became speaker, it's not clear anything would be different unless he's able to get hard and fast commitments from the conservative side, the freedom caucus that they are willing to vote for reasonable packages that have the potential of passing the senate and being signed by president obama on those issues, nothing will be different. ryan is not one to execute, i

think, the radical strategy change or trying to build center out coalitions that would include democrats as charlie dent talked about yesterday to try to pass some of the stuff. that's what they have done in the past when their back was to the wall. john boehner reluctantly passed bills that others were opposed to. that was the condition the democrats were in literally for decades, from the '30s to the '80s. it was not unusual to see four-party politics in the house. we are drifting back into that kind of rubik's cube to pass legislation through the house, much less the senate. >> manu, alisyn brought up palace intrigue. there's a threatening letter really written by representative walter jones, who we'll have on the show a little bit later, saying i'm asking that any candidate withdraw himself from the leadership if there are any misdeeds he's committed.

most difficult times is when leaders have stepped down because of skeletons in their closets. >> walter jones has been in congress for 20 years. he's seen scandals really upset the republican party involving newt gingrich. he referenced also bob livingst livingston. what he said is that he didn't want to see anything like that happen again. he was not being specific. did he not single any kevin mccarthy. mccarthy was asked about that letter yod and denied it had anything to do with his decision to resign but clearly that raised a lot of questions. it got a lot of attention and it also put, especially given how surprising this was yesterday. kevin mccarthy was campaigning for the job yesterday morning, just a couple hours later said i'm not going to do it. >> manu raju, errol, thanks so much. coming up in our next hour, we'll speak to congressman trent

franks, a mesh of the conservative freedom caucus. 8:00 hour, congressman walter jones, he's in the middle of this, too. he sent that letter we just mentioned ahead of that vote, saying that skeletons -- candidates with skeletons in their closet should get out of the race. and ben carson on the defensive about his recent comments that victims of the oregon massacre should have taken on the gunman. new questions about his suggestion that the holocaust would have been greatly diminished if jews were armed. here's what he told cnn's wolf blitzer. >> what the original question was, was if you were there and someone was holding a gun to you and asking you about your religion and they shot other people, what would you do? knowing that you were next to be killed and that they were going to continue down the line killing people, i would much rather go down fighting. if all of us attacked the shooter, the chances are strong that not all of us would be killed. to me, that doesn't seem like a

very controversial thing. when you take it out of context and try to make it look look i'm criticizing the victims, that's when it becomes controversial. >> one of the victims, a guy by the name of matthew downing was offended by your comments. he told cnn i'm fairly upset, he, meaning you, he said that nobody could truly understand what actions they would take like that in a situation unless they lived it. you understand why he's worried, concerned about what you said? >> i suspect he probably has had it fed to him by somebody who misconstrued it. and i think if he heard the complete explanation such as i gave, he would know i'm note complaining about any of the victims and he would know i'm trying to plant the seed. this may not be the last time this occurs. and if it occurs again and there's a bunch of people, they might start thinking, you no he what, we're not going to just take this. >> the other controversy you've erupted on this issue is in your new book is this, a reference to guns and nazi germany.

you're familiar with this. i'll read a couple sentences from the book. german citizens were disarmed by their government in the late 1930s and by the mid-1940s, hitler's regime mercilessly slaughter slaughtered 6 million jews. so what is the point you're trying to make if there had been guns in germany, there might not have been a holocaust? >> my point is, that was only one of the countries that i mentioned. there were a number of countries where tyranny ranked. before it happened they disarmed the people that was the point. noah noah webster said the people of america would never suffer tyranny, because they were armed. >> if there had been no gun control laws in europe at that

time, would 6 million jews have bnl slaughtered? >> i think hitler would not have been able to do what he did if people had been armed. >> should teachers be armed? >> a lot of the shootings where they occur are gun-free zones. these people select these places because they know they're not going to meet resistance. whether it's the kindergarten teacher would was well trained or retired policemen or someone who can stop the carnage, i think it makes a lot of sense. >> the comments on nazi germany and the jews, some have said ben carson's views are historically inaccurate. they do not find them insensitive. they don't it the find them in politics. in about half an hour, we'll play for you what the take is

among a panel of voters. that should be interesting. >> really instructive. we'll move on to the crisis in syria. nato's chief warning of a troubling escalation in russian military activity this morning. two u.s. officials tell cnn that american military in intelligence asset believed that russian missiles intended for syria fell short, landing in iran. russia and iran deny that story. cnn's international correspondent arwa damen is live in istanbul with the latest. arwa? >> they're not just denying it. they are also saying this is propaganda on the part of the americans to try to somehow prove or perhaps to a certain degree show that this russian military assault on syria is somehow failing. you also have nato secretary general not only warning about the seriousness of the escalation of the crisis in syria, also saying that note toe

itself because of these most recent russian strikes, arguably, has doubled its rapid response force in the region. as russia, nato, the united states, the assad regime, iran, other key players continue to use this rhetoric about military strikes and strategic gains, what it really translates to on the ground is heartbreaking, devastating scenes of civilians again bearing the brunt of the violence. the syrian civil defense group which is also known as the white helmets, an independent volunteer medical organization, they are often first on site in the aftermath of these bombings. they are used to the bombs being dropped by the assad regime. now they're dealing with the aftermath of the russian strikes. they are saying at least 182 people, including two of their own, were killed between september 30th and october 7th. so what that war rhetoric looks

like on the ground, alisyn, is families being ripped apart. people being killed. it translates into a child. the image of a child that we saw in one of these youtube videos covere in blood, absolutely terrified. screaming out in pain. and begging for his mother. that's what war looks like on the ground. >> you always show us the reel li -- real life ramifications of these crises. this is the worst kind of breaking news we have to report. a deadly shooting on an arizona campus. one person is dead, at least three injured. this sat northern arizona university in flagstaff. this school shooting happened in a dorm which houses greek organizations. these are the only details we have at the moment. we'll bring you more on this breaking story as soon as more comes in. the tunisian nationa dialogue quartet were just awarded this year's nobel peace

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the clock is ticking. just four days now until the first democratic debate right here on cnn. and this morning, a new wave of speculation for good reason about vice president joe biden and what he is doing. is he preparing this morning to get into this race? the "new yorker" reports members of biden's tell met with the democratic national committee to go over campaign rules. that's not something you sort of do. so is this in fact a sign he is closer to getting into the race? here this morning, cnn political reporter sara murray and cnn senior political correspondent brianna keilar. let me read you the quote from the new yorker here. they briefed biden's aides, the dnc on crucial rules the president would need to understand if he decides to run. it was the most significant sign to indicate biden's intention. i think it means he's running. the source said.

that from "the new york's" ryan lizza. pretty telling, brianna. >> it is. this is sort of another one of those data points. this is a key one. it is perfunctory for someone who's weighing a candidacy to make sure they have their ducks in a row and talk to the dnc. this is something that have very significant as ryan is reporting that representatives of the vice president met this week with the dnc. what we also know, this is what sources have told our gloria borger, there's going to be a family meeting this weekend, just around the corner here. that could be conclusive on whether or not he's going to run. we may know very soon. >> i mean, look, i like going over arcain rules as much as the next girl. >> love it. >> it sounds, sara, as though something deeper is happening and they are getting their ducks

in a row. what is the deadline? is there any day by which he must decide? >> well, i think that's what they were trying to figure out during the meeting. it obviously matters that the meeting is taking place. that is a step that says he is seriously considering it. if they came away from this thinking it would be extremely daunting to build an organization and make sure the sitting vice president is on the ballot in all of these states. you can't come in late as the vice president and not have an organization that knows how to get you prepared and knows how to get you on the ballot and create a ground game. they're at a point where they will have to do it very quickly. they're trailing hillary clinton by a lot in that. >> you can have an arcain meating about rules and say, never mind, forget it. you cover the clinton campaign, brianna.

i have to imagine in brooklyn they're watching this, mashing their teeth. >> there's a lot of concern. when you put joe biden into the equation asking likely voters who do you want? joe biden in siphoning off more support from hillary clinton than bernie sanders. you take him out of the race and hillary clinton gets a more comfortable lead between her and bernie sanders. this is something of tremendous concern. they're trying to play it cool, saying he's making his decision and naturally, i think the vibe we're getting from hillary clinton, he's going to make his decision. it's not really to worry about at this point. i think it is of tremendous concern to them. >> sara, let's talk about donald trump. he held a campaign rally, i believe in vegas yesterday. and exhibit "a" of how much hispanics love him, let's watch this. >> where are you from? >> i'm from colombia! >> colombia! >> is this a setup? did i ever meet you before?

>> i'm hispanic and i vote for mr. trump! we vote for mr. trump! yes! mr. trump! we love you! we love you! all the way to the white house! >> problem solved. >> i swear to you, i think she's totally beautiful. >> this woman was very excited to meet donald trump as you can see there. you know, look, the reality is, trump has horrible poll numbers with anyone who is not white, basically. there are still a couple, you in owe, hispanic supporters you meet at these events and many of them who came to the country legally and they say, i came through the correct channels and we want everyone else to do the same thing. if you came to the country legally, hispanic, there are certain people that donald trump speaks to. i think donal was particularly excited this woman had a copy of "people" magazine with his face on it. it allowed him to bring that on stage and talk more about his face on the cover of a magazine.

>> it's not often you see donald trump upstaged by someone. he almost seemed like oh, my goodness, she's taking over the stage here. >> i think it makes it interesting, sara, you've been to a lot of these event. you don't see that, i imagine, at a mike hukbyckabee event. there's a certain amount of entertainment. when you watch it on tv or go there, you just don't know what is going to happen. that's what makes donald trump exciting to a lot of people. >> that is absolutely true. some of the people we talked to afterwards said they didn't hear anything new but they were there to see the show. >> you can't argue with her exuberance. that goes a long way towards an entertaining moment. one more thing. donald trump is has insinuated himself into the kevin mccarthy speakership race. and kevin mccarthy dropping out. donald trump took credit for it. let's listen to this. >> i want to just start by

saying, kevin mccarthy is out. you know that, right? and they're giving me a lot of credit for that because i said you need somebody very, very tough and very smart. smart goes with tough, not just tough. >> brianna, was this all about donald trump? is that why kevin mccarthy got out? >> i would say no. and i would say that this sort of shake-up we've seen in this leadership race in the republican conference has been coming for a long time. the underlying cause of kevin mccarthy not being able to get to 218 republicans and to be able to clinch that speakership which really seemed to contribute to his decision to bow out. that's something that's been going on for a long time. it's ultimately what contributed to speaker boehner resigning. i think we're seeing that play out even more. i don't know how much donald trump has to do with that. >> maybe not because of donald trump but emblematic.

>> that's his risz and the fact that he is getting so much interest and is the front-runner right now is sort of a symptom of really what is the same, i think, condition, that republicans are facing. >> brianna keilar, sara murray, great to have you with us. thank you so much. just four days from now, the first democratic debate, the cnn facebook debate. do not miss it, october 13th, tuesday night, the fun begins 8:30e a.m. eastern time right here on cnn. if you have a question you want asked during this debate in front of millions people on tv, go to cnn's facebook page and record a short video or instagram using #demdebate. u.s. officials say russian cruise missiles fell short of the intended targets in syria and crashed in iran, a claim russia and iran deny. who's right? we'll talk to our military experts, next.

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of propaganda as they call it. a lot of people would call it flat out lies about the fact that they're hitting precisely every target, sustaining no casualties an they are taking the fight against isis. none of those things are true. we've seen these proclamations by russia as they've done things in ukraine. they're not there, they're not doing everything. everything is going perfectly. truthfully it's the russian way of war, very different from the way the united states and many of the western allies conduct war. >> the russians flat out deny this. they say unlike cnn, they get a nice shot in there, woe don't report quoting anone mouse sources. we show launches of our missiles and the targets they hit in realtime mode. no matter how unpleasant it is, our strike yesterday with precision-guided weapons at isis infrastructure in syria hit its target. the real issue isn't where the

missiles landed, it's what they were shootingality, what their targets were. that is still where the big difference lies between russia and the united states. >> yes. that's exactly right. you're seeing specific areas which they're firing upon. it is noy near where places that isis resides. they are going after the free syrian army, the rebels that are trying to depose mr. assad and doing it quite effectively, not only with their so-called precision weapons. you can see that in the film that the kremlin releases they will show films of aircraft that are hitting targets which is off-center from this their wam points are. beyond that, they'll use area fire weapons as opposed to precise weapons. your reporter, arwa damon mentioned that earlier. these weapons, artillery, ground-to-ground missiles are

arbitrarily shot. they can't hit precise targets, they'll hit a lot of civilians. with all the talk about collateral damage and precision, you'll see a lot more civil van casualties in the fight as russia attempts to support mr. assad. >> syrian civilians will suffer and perhaps russia will suffer long time and perhaps retribution against russia. nato, you you served in europe. they are trying to show signs of strength with military exercises and ramping up things in hungary and other countries. does russia care? look, russia took back crimea from ukraine with no real military retribution there. they've been fighting in ukraine with no military retribution there. they'reple booing in syria and no one is stopping them there. why should they care that nato

is doing exercises right now? >> date know has been conducting these kind of exercises for years. in many cases we've invited -- when i was there, we invited russia into the exercises with us. they certainly do here. i was at a conference a few weeks aneg europe where a russian expert showed a map from the russian perspective where they believe they were on the strategic defensive. a ring, a circle around russia where they're showing all the countries where the united states and the western allies are attempting to impede inside of russian space. that's what they believe. what we're seeing right now is an attempt by mr. putin to go from the strategic defensive to the strategic offense, not only in ukraine, not only in syria but other places like moldova, threatening poland, threatening the baltic. you'll see emphasis by putin for russia to go where they've not

gone before to bring back what many are calling the new soviet union. >> two u.s. planes inside syria that changed their flight plan because of concern of coming too close to russian jets. is that the biggest concern in syria? >> no, not at all. you'll continue to see coalition aircraft diverted until there's deconfliction and coordination with the russian state. we have awax airplanes that are controlling these air. they see where the russian planes are. that's not a concern but it's been prune to the keep them away from russian aircraft. i continue to say, the biggest problem you're going to see is an increase in civilian -- syrian civilian casualties, an increase in strikes against rebels that are trying to depose the government and probably more refugees because of all of these things. russia is damaging the potential for stopping this action. >> a lot of suffering.

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we have do breaking news for you, another campus shooting. this one in arizona. just a week after that massacre in oregon. cnn has confirmed a deadly shooting at northern arizona university in flagstaff. one person is dead, at least three injured. the extent of the injuries not known yet at this hour. police say that gunfire erupted in a dormitory which houses some greek organizes. we are told the shooter is in custody. we'll bring you more details on all of this breaking news as soon as they come in. >> all right. congressional tumult to be sure this following house leader's kevin mccarthy sudden withdraw from the speaker's race. republicans are scrambling to fill the void, trying to find someone who is acceptable to the

party and will take the job. a new face is needed to unite the fractured party. some house republicans are pushing congressman paul ryan to run for the position. he refused twice but perhaps is reconsidering. house gop members will meet behind closed doors to morning to discuss. a pilot accused of playing a role in joaquin el chapo guzman is in custody in mexico. 24 suspects have been arrested connected to this breakout. 23 of those mexican government employees. a peek at the weather, how the weekend is shaping up we are joined by mckenzie bart, the winner of "america's next weatherman." part of mckenzie's prize was a chance to deliver the forecast right here on "new day." >> thank you so much. i appreciate it. let's get into it. as we're looking at our current temperatures and situation, we're looking at warmer

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massacre? why? >> i think at the time it was probably an insensitive comment to make. and i also think that you really don't know how you're going to react until you're really in that situation. it's difficult to put yourself in the shoes of those people who are really in a crisis moment. >> did anybody else feel he was sort of blaming the victims in that way? >> i don't think so. i think who knows what's going through people's minds when such a terrible event occurs. i think dr. carson spoke from his heart and felt what he said. >> i don't think mr. carson meant any harm by what he said. that would be the right thing. i can understand you'd be paralyzed in fear, i would imagine, in that situation. i would hope that i would try to stop it. >> i think what ben carson was

trying to explain is what he would do. i don't think he was specifically speaking about the victims as that would be insensitive. i think he was focusing on his individual person and what he would like to do in this situation. >> certain people have a tendency to be very reactionary. it doesn't take them long to make a decision. being a surgeon as he is, if someone was injured, i'm sure dr. carson would run to their aid. in the same token, if he thought he could defend a life, i believe he would try to intercede in that. >> let's talk about a couple other things he said this week. i want to get your reaction. dr. carson was asked what he would do about hurricane joaquin if he were in the oval office. he said, quote, i don't know. is that okay for a presidential candidate to say? should they have thought through scenarios and answers? >> i would assume probably but if he's being put on the spot, i don't think president obama or any official in that situation

could make a decision within seconds. i think it would take time to logically think about what would work, what wouldn't work and even what's possible. i don't think it's a decision anyone would be able to make up on the spot. >> we have a president right now that jumps to a conclusion without having the facts. i don't think we need another president that jumps to conclusions without having the facts. i was always taught, if you don't know the answer, say i don't know but i'll find out. i don't think that's an appropriate answer or sign of weakness or ignorance if you will. i think it would be more ignorant, if you would, for him to come out with a comment on something he knows nothing about. >> jerry, what do you like about him? i know he's not your first choice but what do you like about him? >> i think he's an honest guy, a christian guy. i think he's brilliant. he's a man of values. i think he's got huge integrity. and i think he's a likable guy. my only concern about him is his

toughness going up against with congress and the lobbyists, if you will. >> meaning you don't know if he would be tough enough? >> he might very well be tough enough. if he won the primary, i could certainly vote for him. >> he was also asked about the debt ceiling which he struggled to answer. he said he would not sign an increased budget which is not the sames athe debt ceiling. do you feel that he does know enough about these things and about the way washington works and about what to do as president? >> to me it does bring up a red flag. i like ben carson but i'm not a supporter of him. i like someone who has some political experience. it does raise a red flag. i don't think it's a big concern at this moment. >> all of this follows on the heels of him saying he doesn't feel a muslim could be president of the united states. he feels islam is not consistent with the constitution. constitutionalists point out there is no religion test for president. how do you feel about some of

the comments that he's made? are you comfortable? >> i think his comments were made within the context of what we're seeing in the middle east today where christians are being brought to the water'sth a edge beheaded. the constitution does guarantee there's no religious litmus test for who would run for and ultimately be elected president. >> our country is so concerned about women's rights, the sharia law that's followed by some muslims is very unfair to women. and presidents have to take a presidential oath of office to abide by the constitution. and anyone, muslim, christian, anyone who would follow sharia law, for example, would be in contrast with the constitution. >> all right. we will have much more from these voters later in the show. and get their take on the rest of the republican field especially, of course, donald

trump. >> is it a success because of the statements or in spite of it? i think the answer is a little bit of both. that's what we heard from the voters. we are following a lot of news, including breaking news. let's get right to it. this is cnn breaking news. welcome back to your "new day." we do begin with breaking news at this hour. another campus shooting just a week after that gunman went on a shooting industry at the oregon community college, killing nine people. >> this morning, authorities are investigating a shooting at northern arizona university in flagstaff. we go to michelle kosinski. >> reporter: northern arizona university says one person was killed in a shooting on its flagstaff campus. it happened outside the mountain view resident hall at 1:20 in the morning local time. the university tweeting this emergency alert, telling students they are to stay indoors. mountain view hall is describeds

is a dorm housing most of the campuses greek system. a university spokeswoman is saying three other people were shot in the incident, then taken to a hospital in flagstaff. this has just happened not long ago. the shooter is in custody. this is essentially over. but there's no word on a possible motive or other details. we're hearing there will be a press conference at 9:00. >> a lot more coming out from there. thank you so much. hopefully we'll hear from the university itself fairly soon. this happens one week after the shooting in oregon. president obama today heads to ro roseburg, oregon, the scene where it all happened. he's said to be meeting with the families of the victims. >> there's a lot of conversation in this community about the president's visit. he made strong statements shortly after the shooting

saying he was going to politicize parts of this because he wanted to change some of the gun laws. that hit some people right between the eyes that did not like that. the front of the paper, defend roseburg event. >> i think the timing of the president's visit was frankly, very insensitive to the families and the community as a whole. we're a little hess tan the to embrace his visit. >> we welcome him and we are going to treat him with respect and open our arms and appreciate that he is here in our town. >> reporter: john, one of the things we've seen throughout this community is someone started making metal state plates here with a heart in the middle showing their support for this community. i tell you, being here for almost a week now, talking to the people here, they're nice people but i can tell you, honestly, they want to make sure their rights are maintained. a lot of people we talk to say,

look, any understand why people are upset, they want to change laws but here they don't think they have a gun problem. we saw some of the ads in the paper still maintain gun sales. in fact, gun sales in the area have gone up since the shooting. people say they feel like they need to protect themselves. >> thank you so much. we are joined by arizona congressman trent franks. thanks for being with us. we're just getting word of this shooting at northern university arizona in flagstaff, your home state. your reaction, sir? >> first of all, thanks for having me on. my first reaction always in these situations having two twins at home an a wife is just, i am so sorry that people have had to go through this. i just pray god's blessing and comfort upon them. that's my first reaction. >> that's a universal sentiment this morning, congressman. thank you for sharing that. we do share it with you. there's a discussion all around the country right now about arming students, arming teachers

on campus. we don't know the identity of the victims. we don't know the identity of the shooter on this campus. is this an argument for or against having guns on university campuses? >> well, i understand on this campus, except in rare circumstances, it wasn't allowed to have guns on campus. i think that one thing you'll see as a pattern in these mass shootings is that the shooters deliberately choose a place where they know that no one can defend themselves, they know they are not going to face someone who's armed. that's a tragedy. all through mystery, i suppose, the evil and malevolent people of the world have preferred on our victims. i would say this, usually if you look at some of the shootings, the one in oregon, for instance, that gentleman -- that evil s.o.b. wasn't stopped until the police were there who had guns.

very few people would say we should disarm the police. if that's the case, then it's really not the guns, is it, it's whose hands the gun is in. >> it could certainly -- >> we protect our businesses with guns, banks, our money. we protect politicians with guns. when it comes to our children, the most precious treasure god ever gives us, we protect them with a little sign that says no guns allowed. >> it could be both, the people and it could be the guns. i think that's a discussion and debate that's been had again and again over the last several days. the sentiment that's most universal this morning as we sit here at 7:03 eastern time, one week from the shootings in roseburg is, again, again. i think the saddest thing most people will agree on is i don't think anyone is surprised this morning. >> that's an extremely good point. i think that somehow it should refocus our attention on why these monsters do these things.

and it's going to be critically important to do that. otherwise they'll find some way to do it unless we're willing to outlaw pressure cookers, they'll find some mechanism to hurt people. we have to find out what causes it, whether it's copycats, mental illness, whatever it is. we have to make sure we can do whatever we can to prevent these things. number two, if there is malevolent people out there, that they don't face an unarmed victim all the time. >> our concern is with flagstaff and the northern arizona university campus. i want to talk about what's going on right where you are right now, the u.s. capitol, the house of representatives. there's a sense it's chaos. the stunning aannouncement yesterday from kevin mccarthy that he will drop out of the race for speaker. one of the reasons is you. you were part of the freedom caucus. house republicans, some 40 members who did not want him to

reach the speaker's chair. what have you won this morning? >> well, the truth is, i know it's impossible for people to see what really happens in the inner machinations of congress. freedom caucus wanted to do some things that were good for the country. there's no malice on our part towards kevin mccarthy. i can express to you i have nothing but the greatest respect and affection for kevin mccarthy. i think what he did yesterday demonstrated to the whole world that he wants what's best for the country. i don't know whether it was best for the country or not. what i do know is that was his intention. statesmanship was on display in his life. to answer your question specifically, there were a lot of dynamics. you know, the most hidden elephant in the room is the senate filibuster. it is causing the house caucus to be torn positive pieces because we can't get anything voted on and then the base out there thinks that republicans and the congress are doing

nothing. >> the senate filibuster didn't keep you from nominating a speaker yesterday. >> the senate filibuster was the reason we had a change in leadership in this house. >> because of what john boehner could not achieve as speaker. >> because he always appeared weak when really it wasn't weakness, it was the inability to repeal the mathematics. they go to the senate and say we're not voting on it, you guys are shutting the government down. >> congressman. >> the media has not focused on that. >> that should be part of the debate. >> you were saying you were doing this on behalf of the peop people. that's the goal of the freedom caucus. >> it is the goal of the freedom caucus. >> it's 30 to 40 members of congress. it's less than 10% of the membership of the house of representatives. less than 20% of the republican membership. is that 10% of congress really speaking for the american people and the other 90% not?

whose will are you doing here? >> i would be the first to tell you, i think in terms of the issues that we believe in, that 90% of the caucus is with us. maybe there's a difference in how we approach things. 90% of the caucus is with us. >> mccarthy clearly had the majority of people willing to nominate him for speaker. you didn't have the majority yesterday. >> i think if mr. mccarthy would have gained the nomination, you would have seen him supported on the floor. that's my particular opinion. you know, some of us believe you do everything you can in the primary to maximize the best you can for what you believe. and then you do what's right to -- when the general election comes and you get together. i don't see this as anything unusual. what i do see is that the people are missing entirely the reason for the division and change in leadership in the first place. we had honorable leaders, unfortunately they are

profoundly unpopular among the republican base. they know we're losing america and see that the obama administration has created chaos all over the world and they're frustrated and want to see something happened. when we're unable to affect that, they think it's weakness when really we are affecting it, are passing it in the house and never get a vote in the senate. >> paul ryan, a lot of people want him to throw his hat into the ring. he said no way twice. would you support paul ryan to be the next speaker? >> i'm not going to make a pronouncement here on twig. i will say to you, i think paul ryan would make a great speaker. people like him are the kinds of people we need. the truth is, however, the reason that there's such

rediscence -- >> he'll face the freedom caucus. people like him are what we need. do you know who are people like paul ryan? let me show you the book he wrote. i they we have it here. he wrote "young guns" with eric cantor and kevin mccarthy. erick cantor was run out of office. people like paul ryan are the ones that you guys ran out. so is it intellectually consistent to support paul ryan? >> i have absolutely the greatestgreat est respect for all three of those men. what you're not understanding is that the reason there's such dissension in the house, we're trying to gain the traction to overcome this filibuster. there's only two ways we can do it. we either have to change that rule and that falls on mr. mcconnell primarily or we have to raise the filibuster to such a high degree of visibility

that is no longer tenable to abuse it as senate democrats have done. that creates effort to create the pressure in the house. that's what's tearing us apart. i know that maybe you'll look at that in the future -- >> no, no. >> there's not much disagreement as may sound. >> i am completely willing to accept the notion there's dysfunction in the senate as well. i don't think the only place it exists is the house of representatives. thank you so much for being with us. >> appreciate you having me on. it's been a good interview. breaking news. alisyn. >> one person is dead after a shooting on an arizona campus. three others are wounded at this hour. we're joined now on the phone by cindy brown, a spokesperson for northern arizona university. tell us what happened at your school this morning. >> good morning, alisyn. as you can imagine, details are still emerging and our police department is working with the local police department in flagstaff to continue their investigation. i can confirm that there was a

shooting on our campus this morning. there is one victim, three are being treated at our local medical center and the shooter is in custody. >> we understand the first call went in to police at 1:20 a.m. local time. correct me if i'm wrong, this happened in a dormitory. what else can you tell us about the details of what happened overnight? >> actually the incident took place in a parking lot adjacent to our mountain view resident's hall on the northeast side of campus. first call came in at 1:20 a.m. >> there were three victims. were they all students? >> there actually were four victims. there's one victim who is deceased and four victims are currently being treated at the flagstaff medical center. >> thank you for that. were they all students? >> i don't have the identity of any of the victims or shooter at

this time. >> do you know if the shooter was a stoon in the. >> i don't know that yet, no. >> do you know how it came to pass that the shooter was taken into custody? >> actually i don't have the details on that yet either. i'm sorry. >> can you tell us about what security is like at your school? was campus security engaged in this? is your school, as we've learned so much about since the tragedy in oregon a week ago, also a gun-free zone? >> our university campus is a gun-free zone. we have a fully accredited police department on our campus. >> do you know what the condition of the victims who are in the hospital is? >> i don't at this time. i'm actually waiting for updates on the conditions of the victims. we will be holding a press conference at 6:00 a.m. arizona

time. >> at 6:00 a.m. will it be campus police or is it the local arizona police? >> i expect our police department will be able to release more details during the press conference and they will be working with the flagstaff police department as well. >> we understand there are 20,000 students that go to northern arizona university, even the flagstaff campus, i believe. you can correct me if i'm wrong. were they all sent an alert? what's happening? >> we do have 20,000 students on our flagstaff campus and we did send out multiple alerts via text and we sent out alerts via social media. >> what did those alerts tell people to do? >> the alert notified the subscribers that there was an active shooter incident and there were updates subsequently

sent out to let them know the location that they needed to avoid and when the shooter was in custody. >> we can only imagine, sendai, how upsetting that was to all the students, how scary it is to get an alert in the middle of the night telling people there's an active shooter. where were you when you got word of this? >> like many people, i was asleep. but, of course, this is a very upsetting thing for anyone to receive in the middle of the night. honestly, our thoughts are with the families of the tvictims right now. >> as are ours. cindy brown, you're a spokes spe spokesperson for the university. thank you for the information. an explosion at a natural gas plan the in gibson, louisiana.

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i want to just start by saying kevin mccarthy is out. you know that, right? and they're giving me a lot of credit for that because i said you really need somebody very, very tough and very smart. smart goes with tough, not just tough. >> that was donald trump taking some credit for congressman kevin mccarthy's decision to -- i just get a look from john berman. >> smart does go with tough. you can't argue. >> i might be able to argue that. that was trump taking credit for kevin mccarthy's decision. what was behind this stunning move and where does that leave all of the work that needs to be done in congress? joining us this morning, cnn

political commentator and republican consultant margaret hoover and political analyst and editor in chief at the daily beast, john avalon. great to have both of you, particularly margaret. tell us what was going on behind the scenes? >> everybody wants and believes, it's not just -- i mean, it's everybody in the republican universe knows that paul ryan is the only man -- take a line from "braveheart," unite the klclans. he's the only 345man that can dt but he doesn't want the job. he tried to stay back the tidal wave that's coming at him and he can't do it. if there's one argument that applies is country and duty over self. that's the one play that can do it. my understanding is by the end of the day he had to take some time to consider it. >> one of the reasons he doesn't

want to use it, because everyone who's been in that job has had their end trails ripped off and lifted to the sky. >> this could be the most liberating thing for paul ryan if he does really seriously consider this. he could say, okay, fine, i'll do this for my country but i'm going to quit in 2016. he's liberated from having to run, coups that could happen, you could put together coalitions with some democrats if he needed to. nothing is more liberating than not wanting the job you have for a short period of time. >> there you go, margaret just spelled out the situation. >> it's a good theme in life. >> says my husband. >> paul ryan is unique ly positioned to bridge the constituencies. a well ordered sort of march to the speakerership turned into a

giant, blazing dumpster fire. the reason is the factions that our founding fathers warned us about are consuming the gop. take a look at the folks who rose in the wake of the 2010 tea party resolution. take a look at the cover of young guns, boehner out. they've been cannibalized by their own party. the nation, unite this disparate set of factors. >> there's something going on here, and it's not just in the house. they don't like the fact that donald trump is leading in the polls, carly fiorina up there as well. let me read you from karen tu t tumalty in the "washington post."

margaret, is it that dire? less than a year after a sweeping electoral triumph, republicans are on the verge of ceasing to function as a national political party. >> there is some truth to this total chaos. there truly is a lack of faith in the ability of republicans to do anything. again, mostly it's over tactics. you heard trent franks say we mostly believe the same things with we just believe we can't give in anymore. you also said him say he'd like speaker ryan. >> how does he wrangle the freedom caucus? >> they like him already. >> part of the problem is the way we talk about politics and the current republican problems and fracturing. >> the establishment is a misnomer. you're talking about radicals versus reformers.

they're happy to watch them burn it all done. that problem is that has become the base, incited by a couple of demagogues, like donald trump who would taken credit for the cubs getting into the playoffs if it hasn't occurred to him already. the reality check isn't just that the establishment is somehow underattacked. the reality check is that the party is being cannibalized by their own worse empires. >> the first democratic debate, hillary clinton willing on that stage and bernie sanders is sort of from a very different part of the party and playing on very different themes. will it seep on to that stage? >> thematically there are consistencies between the outrage on the right and the left. you do see the bernie-mentum. there is a surgency on the right

and left who are sick of the people in power for some time. >> i sat down yesterday. we had a panel of republican and democratic voters. basically what the republicans said, is that they feel that candidates have promised them up one side and down the next, all of these promises that they then break. when they get to congress. that's why they believe in people like ben carson who will fulfill, they believe, his promises. let me play for you how people feel about ben carson and what he said about the victims of the oregon massacre and that they should have rushed the gunman. i think at the time it was an insensitive comment to make. i also think that you really don't no know how you're going to react until you're in that situation. it's difficult to put yourself in the shoes of those people who are really in a crisis moment.

>> who knows what's going through people's minds when such a terrible event occurs. i think dr. carson spoke from his heart and felt what he said. >> she was the only one of the six who said she felt it was insensitive. the others said, you do wish you could rush the gunman. he's a doctor. of course he rushes toward danger. >> look, rushing toward danger generally is what firemen and law enforcement will do. in a mass shooting, folks will say trying to rush a gunman individual lly is not the smartt method. we have a lot of let's roll mentality in this country. >> the servicemen in europe charged the guy on a train in france. >> when there's a focus on actually the problem is, we need

more guns. that's the solution to the problem of increased mass shootings in america as trent franks told you earlier. when people say by implication, the victims of the shooting were really victims because they didn't play offense enough. if we're going to elevate feelings over facts, we're dumbing down the debate in this country. >> there was somebody who rushed the gunman. that was heroic. we should prize heroism. if ben carson wants to think he would have been a hero, too, that's fine. he says things that trip him up all the time. look, the people who support ben carson are going to still support ben carson. that's not going to turn him off. this is narrow and intense faction of people who aren't going to change their minds. the issue is you have to win a majority of americans. we have to grow his support beyond his base. >> if we learned anything over the past 24 hours, it's about a committed minority. >> that's the problem.

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we are following breaking news for you this morning. one person is dead following a shooting at the northern arizona university campus in flagstaff, arizona. three other people are injured. so far, no word on who they are or their conditions. police say this incident happened outside a dormitory for students in the greek system. this was at about 1:20 a.m. local time. the shooter is in custody. at this point, no motive has been given. we'll bring you more details when we have it. >> president obama travels to ro roseburg, oregon today to meet with the families of the victims of the umpqua community college. th

didess pratt loy seeking leadership. house republicans in a mad political scramble following kevin mccarthy's sudden withdrawal from the speaker's race. mccarthy was the front-runner to replace john boehner but says a, quote, new face is needed to unite the fractured party. house gop members will meet this morning to discuss how to fill the leadership void. new warning from the head of the fbi that isis recruiters are -- dozens of people were being tracked 24/7 because of their contact with isis. here to discuss, phil mudd is a cnn counterterrorism analyst and official. phil, you have testified to congress in public and in private about isis recruitment in the united states. when you hear 24/7 surveillance

on dozens of people in the united states, how big of a deal is that? how real is that? >> that's a big deal but i think that's a misleading characterization of what you can do against that many people. in the world of surveillance you have to think about two things, john. first is digital or electronic surveillance, following somebody's e-mail or cell phone. that's a lot easier than physical surveillance. i suspect what the fbi director is referring to here is that the fbi and others are trying to watch people online to see who's communicating with isis, who is potentially trying to buy a plane ticket to europe and turkey to get into syria. not sitting outside a 15-year-old's house. even a teenager will notice that somebody funny is sitting outside their house every day. >> if they say they're watching dozens of dozens, does it worry

you there coulden hundreds and hundreds of people out there? >> sure. i think you have to think of this as a pyramid. the reason isis is a much bigger threat partly is because if you look at the spokesperson-for-al qaeda, ayman aymanalayman al zawahiri. they have people tweeting online in ways that al qaeda never did. at the top of the pyramid you may have thousands of people following isis tweets you have a few hundred who are really interested and maybe a few dozen preparing to travel. that in the world of terrorism is a lot of people. in the al qaeda days we might have had three or four people active. >> the barrier to entry are so low. >> that's right. >> listen to what the fbi director said about the youth

factor right now and what some of these kids may be looking for, what they may be attracted to. let's listen to what he said. >> there are kids and adults, troubled people all over the united states. it seems to be drifting younger with more girls. by girls i mean women under the age of 18 with whom this message on social media is resonating. >> praying on the vulnerable, phil. it's something you see in crime. we've seen for generaions in the issue of crime. now, terrorism is seeping into this. >> i think you need to look at this not as a phenomenon of terrorism but as a phenomenon of youth. for example, i live in washington, d.c. how many people were recruited into gangs last night? we don't talk about this. that is almost a cult culture. i see the same thing happening with isis. what's happening today is youth are being given a message there's a place they can live a better life. isis has safe haven. that's why operations in syria are so important.

they can advertise there's a perfect state. al qaeda didn't have this. al qaeda was inaccessible for the past 15 years. sigs is accessible with an accessible message and with an entry point via turkey. it's a place they can go. it's not just a terror group that decapitates people. >> the fbi can't stop people from being young. what kind of effort can help solve this problem? >> i think we're already the illusion, i include the congress in this, that we can stop this. you can participate in twitter to talk to people who are watching feeds that are of concern. let me give you a message. this is not subtle. we have stepped back from syria. that's a political decision, a military decision. if you don't stop the magnet of a state that is isis, that says there's a better way to live, you cannot stop numbers of

people in a country, america of 330 million from traveling to europe to join. if you don't stop the magnet, you're not going to stop the problem. it's not that complicated. >> sobering message. phil mudd, appreciate it. bill cosby will deposed on sexual abuse allegations dating back to 1984. what do the questions deposing him hope to find out today? we'll discuss all that, next. so why would you invest without checking brokercheck? check your broker with brokercheck.

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this is a situation that's unprecedented. i've never seen anything like this. and reality is, the situation. and i can't speak. >> well, that was bill cosby speaking vaguely about the sexual assault allegations against him. the today the comedian will be deposed in a sex abuse case dating back to in 1974. let's bring in attorney and radio personality, mo ivory. >> good morning.

>> this case involves a woman named judy huff. she said she and a 16-year-old friend met bill cosby in a park. he invited them to i aparty at the playboy mansion where he sexually assaulted them. how is she able to skirt the statute of limitations and bring this case from 1974? >> there is an exception for when you sort of begin to feel the damage of the -- the psychological effects of the assault. if it's within a certain period of time, three years, you can revive the case. they allowed her to move forward with her civil case. even though it's that old, the damage began to appear within that time period, so she was allowed to move forward with her civil case. >> that's interesting. it took her decades to understand or sort of become conscious of the damage you're saying? >> yes. and of course, probably the revelations of all these other people, jogged her memory.

she went through so much in her lifetime because of being abused sexually. and that now, she's really feeling the effects, so she was able to -- it's really about convincing or presenting enough evidence to show that that is true which is a high standard but she was able to move forward with this deposition. it is a civil case. it's not criminal where he could face jail time or be prosecuted criminally. but it is civil. >> let's talk about that evidence. today, bill cosby gives his deposition. next week, judy huff gives her deposition in a courtroom. bewe can assume she will say he sexually assaulted her, he will say he did not. where does that leave the case? how will a judge decide who's telling the truth? >> well, you know, this is a deposition. first of all, it might not necessarily take place in a

court. it could be in a conference room. it could be in an agreed upon lace place. a deposition is not the same as testifying in court, per se, for a criminal trial. it's a very much relaxed situation than it is when you're in a courtroom testifying on the record. there's where you begin to have also 9 considerations of whether or not it should be sealed and what information should come out. a deposition just by definition is very different than when you are testifying in a court for a criminal case or even when you're at the place of the civil case is happening and you're testifying in court for that. today is just the deposition where gloria allred -- that does not mean we think of it as any less of a challenge for mr. cosby. it is definitely a problem that he finds himself there today. it means that somebody was able, all the victims now, what the number is up to about 50 were able -- were not able to penetrate in the way that this particular accuser has been able to.

>> yes. back to my question, mo, he's still a he said-she said. there is no physical evidence from deck careds ago. who will decide who's telling the truth? what will happen this civil case? >> ultimately what gloria allred and her client want is a settlement. the pressure will move to the next phase which will have the lawyers negotiating on whether mr. cosby said anything that could be incriminating or admitted to anything. let me say this. there's been a lot of time through all of these accusations for mr. cosby and his attorneys to really consider and decide what will be said in this deposition today. it is not going to be an easy task for miss allred and miss judy huff to come in and say bill cosby said, yes, i knew she was under age, yes, i took her

without her consent to the playboy mansion. i fondled her and sexually abused her without her consent and gave her drugs. it's not going to be all that cut and dry. it is going to be a tug of war, a back and forth. who knows what will be said or if mr. cosby will answer every question, i can't remember, i don't know. it was such a long time zbleg the document from this deposition will be sealed for at least 06 days. we may know what he says come december. mo ivy, thanks so much for helping explain what we'll hear today. we'll speak with barbara bowman. one of bill cosby's accusers. late-night comics, things usually focus on presidential politics, because, frankly, there's a lot of material. now, taking new swipes at the

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this is cnn breaking news. >> this is "new day." we do have breaking news this morning. a campus shooting. another campus shooting. just a week after the massacre at the oregon community college that left nine people dead. >> this deadly shooting happening early this morning at northern arizona university in flag staff. let's begin coverage with michelle kosinski. >> this is very different than what we saw in oregon. this is not a shooter entering a classroom. this this is something that happened outside a dorm at 1:30 in the morning. but it did leave one killed and

others injured. some new details, including the three people wounded who are now at the hospital. the shooter is in custody and the campus is not currently on lockdown. no word yet on the condition, the identity of the victim osseus the shooter. we know it happened outside of a residence hall called mountain view, 1:30 in the morning local time. the dorm is described as housing most of the campus's greek system. we expect to know much more when the university holds a news conference about 6:00 a.m., about an hour from now and we also know the students have been on social media reaching out and comforting each other and some are trying to plan vigil for this morning also. >> we do have a student with us on the phone from northern arizona university. megan ardol a junior at the university. megan, thanks so much for being with us.

your room just a few yards away from where this shooting took place overnight. how did you find out something was going on? >> i actually received a text message at like 3:00 from the university. we had like a text message alert system and it pretty much just stated there was a shooting. suspect in custody. but it was after the fact at 3:00 a.m. so i woke up from texts from family and the university and my brother all at the same time. >> it's got to be a terrifying way to wake up megan. >> absolutely. you don't expect that in flagstaff. i never thought twoup it would be happen here. >> everyone knows each other. this is outside the mountain view hall. this is very corrected to the greek sector, the fraternities. what goes on outside that building overnight. any idea who might have been involved in the shooting. >> i have no idea.

it is such a busy place. it's popular trafficking. there are apartments everywhere. it is right by the gym. i've always felt safe there. i have my head phones in. >> there's nothing that's ever struck me as being suspicious there. i never thought it would happen. so i really don't know who would do something like that around. >> it is a big school. i believe you know people who live in and/or near that building. have you been able to reach out to all of your friends. >> for being so early in the morning, i have. i've received texts from people around. and we've been texting each other in group chats and making sure everyone is safe. there is a huge community here and everyone is reaching out and making sure everyone's okay. still anxious though not knowing who's involved. >> megan, you know, there is this now concerned around the

country about safety on campuses. after what happened at that oregon community college last week, how much discussion has there been about safety on your campus. >> there has been a lot of discussion. i'm actually an education major so i want to become a teacher. the idea of school shootings and stuff like that is brought up in classrooms because it is really prevalent now. it's scary. but any security is usually topnotch. we have blue light systems on campus. there are people patrolling. it is pretty safe. it hasn't been changed much since oregon because it's always been such a safety school but now that this happened i'm sure there will be some drastic changes. >> are guns allowed on campus there. >> they are not. weapons are not tolerated anywhere on campus. >> megan aardahl. just --.

>> not everyone is pleased that the president is coming to town to visit umpqua community college. >> reporter: a lot of people are having the conversation openly about the president's visit. some saying last week's comments he made just after the shooting hurt them because he was obviously talking about politicizing the event. some people standing up. and in the paper they have a group called defend rosebunberr. they have some 50,000 likes at this point but not everyone feels the same way about the president's visit. >> i think the timing was very inseasonstive to tcenssensitivea whole. >> we welcome him and we're going treat him with respect and

open our arms and appreciate that he is here in our town. >> we spent a week in this community. and i can tell you just from talking to people a lot of people have differing opinions on this. one thing they wanted to make sure the focus was on the victims and that seems like it is going to be the focus of the president's visit because he plans to meet with them privately. >> ryan young in roseburg oregon. thanks so much. republicans this morning scrambling to fill a leadership void. the favorite mccarthy just up and withdrew from the race. is this the same dynamic that is pushing outsiders, the success of outsiders in the presidential race? cnn's manu raju live on capitol hill this morning where i think all eyes are on one man named

paul ryan. >> capitol hill is still reeling after that stunning announcement yesterday from kevin mccarthy that he would not run for speaker. really leaving the republicans in a state of disarray and panic to some extent. republicans will discuss their future today and all eyes will be on one man and whether he will take the speakers gavel. >> paul ryan, the man many republicans see as if lone lawmaker who can get the house in order. >> i know there are a number of feems folks trying to encourage him to stand up. i think he would be a consensus candidate. many members of the party would warmly embrace him. >> ryan back in the spotlight after a chaotic day on capitol hill. kevin mccarthy abruptly pulled out of race. >> i don't want to go to the floor and win with 220 votes. i think the best thing for our party right now is to have 247 votes on the floor.

if we are going to be strong we got to be 100% united. >> the move blind siding colleagues and leaving the fractured republican party in disarray. with his budgets aimed at over hauling medicare, ryan has quickly become a favorite of the conservative wing of his party. but he's also a prolific fund raiser and close to the party establishment. he appears to have the job locked up, only if he wants. >> some did tell me they are thinking more and more that paul might say yes. >> ryan has not shut the door to the prospect sources say. and he'll listen today at the gop's private meeting. wednesday night ryan refused to rule out a speakers run selling cnn this is not the tame or place to discuss it. there are two candidates in the speakers race. if ryan doesn't get in the list of candidates is bound to grow. for now republicans are left grappling with the leadership vacuum. just as congress is about to deal with major fiscal issues.

>> it is very easy to be againsting? . but when you are in the majority and you have been given this opportunity to responsibility to govern you have to actually advance an agenda. >> so let's bring in now north carolina congressman, republican walter jones. he wrote a letter to the chair of the republican conference that may have been the catalyst for kevin mccarthy's decision. good morning congressman. >> allsyn, good morning. and i hope that words on a letter not responsible for what's happened. >> let's talk about this. some people believe it was kevin mccarthy's comments on benghazi. some people believe it was an inability to wrangle all the different factions together. but some people believe it was your letter that actually got kevin mccarthy to step down. do you think that you were at the root of this? >> allsyn, no for this reason. i am known as the man who votes his conscience here in washington.

i hope i'm a man of integrity. and i believe sincerely that the american people, whether it be republican party or democratic party, when we are electing leaders to lead that party, that we can ask any question that we want to. and i felt like this was just part of the process to ask the question, do you have anything in your background that could become an issue? and that is all that this was about. and it has nothing do with personalities. in the letter which you've seen i'm sure it talks about the speaker position t majority position and the whip position. >> i do have the letter here. let me read a couple of the excerpts. you say i'm asking any candidate withdraw himself from the leadership election if there are any misdeeds he has committed. you go on to say most difficult times have been when republican leaders step down because of skeletons in their closet. and then you go on to say we need to be able to represent the

will of the people unhindered by potentially embarrassing scandals. did you know something in particular about kevin mccarthy? >> no. not about mr. mccarthy. this again, i was here when newt stepped down. i was here when bob livingston stepped down and then there have been some other things happening in washington that really had brought this to my mind, that we needed some type of process -- in the process, i mean. we should have the ability to have a member running and asking the conference and really the american people to put them in leadership positions. do you have anything in your closet that could be embarrassing to the conference, to the nation? that is all this was about. >> and when you say congressman that you know of other things happening in washington that gave you pause, what were those? >> well it just, you know, rumors. not about mr. mccarthy but other things that have happened. i've been here 20 years.

so you could imagine i've heard a lot of rumors. some true and some not. but it was just a combination of many things that i've heard over the past two or three years that bothered me. and i don't see anything wrong if a republican in the conference were to ask a person who wants their vote "do you have anything that could be embarrassing?" if you noted in the letter it said since you have been a member of congress. >> so what's your theory congressman about whyevin mccarthy so suddenly stepped down yesterday. >> well allsyn, i was really surprised because i was not at the 8:00 or 9:00 candidates forum. but some of my good friends were. and they told me that when he left the forum that he was upbeat and felt good about it. he knew he would probably not get 218 but he would lead the votes in the conference. and i was as shocked as anyone. all of us were shocked no matter how you felt about the speakers

race. >> so congressman, what's so interesting about what you are telling us today about what you have heard over the past couple of years, the rumors that you have heard and this notion that, you know, you were just throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks. what does this say about the state of politics? about what politicians private lives are like in washington? if you are saying that its taken on such a tawdry nature that you can just throw spaghetti at the wall and see if anybody comes out and has a misdeed? >> well again, this is because i believe that the american people should be able to look to congress. they have no trust for us right now at all. it is about 9% i think. and if we're going to rebuild that confidence that we've lost then we need to be able to say we're going to not -- nobody is perfect up here. and i'm not even intending to say that. but my point is if you are going to be a spokesman for the republican party, then you need to be able to say that i have

done the best i can to live a good life and i'm going to be a good leader. because i believe sincerely that the privilege i've got to represent people in congress is very special. >> do you support paul ryan for speaker. >> i'm supporting dan website. a -- webster. >> he may not have the wide spread support. he may not be able to get the 200 votes. >> well i'll say this to you allsyn. washington is a city of money. decisions and policy are made because who's contributing. and i'm very outspoken on this. dan webster has said many times. allsyn he says it this way: principal and power cannot co-exist. dan is a man of principle. we've seen too much power up here. and power means it is controlled by money coming in to influence policy. that is not good for the people. that is not good for the people. >> and the paul ryan not a man

of principle. >> i don't know paul ryan well enough. i just tell you why i'm supporting webster. >> were you happy mccarthy got out of the race? >> i was not going vote for him. and i felt like it would go to the floor of the house. i didn't think he would have the votes so that it could be won without going to the floor of the house. i know there are 30 or 40 of us that were not going to vote for him. >> and do you think daniel webster has the votes. >> i don't know. this is going to be a very interesting week. obviously there is chaos right now and we're going to have to see how it works out. >> congressman walter jones, thanks so much for explaining what was behind your letter. we appreciate you being on "new day." >> thank you allsyn. >> thanks allsyn. we have breaking news from the pentagon this morning. word that the u.s. military is overhauling its program to train and equip syrian rebel a program that suffered setback after is theback torques say the at

least. barbara starr with the latest. >> good morning. defense secretary ash carter just concluded a press conference in london revealing that president obama has now approved a new effort to train and equip syrian rebels. the program they had, even carter said he was not satisfied with it. what we are learning now is there will be an announcement shortly that the u.s. will provide ammunition to about 5,000 members of the so called syria arab coalition. these are about 5,000 rebels in northern syria that have had some success on the battlefield but have been running out of ammunition. u.s. special operations have been working with them and had pressed for weeks to get this decision made. what about that existing program where the military was forced a couple of weeks ago to say they only had four or five rebels out on the battlefield? that will technically continue. the small groups of people that they have trained, the u.s. will

continue to support. but there will be a pretty complicated effort to within that coalition we just talked about pull people out of that and give them some additional training in intelligence and communications and try and beef up the capability of the coalition on the battle field. but make no mistakes. the original idea that the u.s. could arm, train, equip and have its own personally backed combat rebel force in syria is going to be going a massive over haul. expect an announcement within the next couple of hours. allsyn? >> sorry, is this all separate from the cia trained forces that have been battling assad and could be targeted right now by the russian planes? >> again, john and allsyn. that is a great question. something a lot of people don't really talk about. there are a number of antiassad rebel groups in syria, mainly in northern syria in western syria that the u.s. intelligence

community, the cia, is quietly backing. they work with them. they have been providing them over the months some training, some support. we are said to presume that is in southern turkey because the u.s. doesn't go into syria. that is a very different, a very covert effort. >> always good to get information on things people don't like to talk about. thank you for that. days before the democratic presidential debate right here on cnn, there is a new clue about whether biden will run for president. we'll break down the intriguing evidence.

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biden could be be getting into the race. joining us to discuss is our panel. mark, the new yorker reporting this morning that biden aids went over to the dnc for a meeting. the quote is this. they briefed biden's aids, the dnc on crucial rules the vice president would need to know if he decides to run. the source says i think it means he's running. you don't just go have a meeting with the dnc about the arcane

rules of running for president just because. >> for fun. >> no. but just to also manage everyone's anxieties and hopes. this could also be the most significant sign he is not going run. you go there because you are really thinking about being president but you also find what it takes to get on the ballot in each state. some are easy. others need petitions. he hasn't passed the deadline on any of the states however he is very close. and he could have gone to that meeting and said this is too much. my safe bet is he's going to run. >> read the tea leaves. >> i don't think joe biden would have carried this long flirtation on as long as he had. knowing that all of this anticipation about someone else getting in isn't great for hillary clinton frankly. i don't think he would have done that as long as he had if he really didn't intend to get in. so everything i'm hearing internally.

folks that i know that are setting up for a run in d.c. for him and everything i'm hearing on the hill is that he's going to run. >> when you say setting up for a run, that means that they are getting -- they are fundraising, they are getting the infrastructure. >> staff. >> so that means he's running if people are setting up for a run he's running. >> i definitely know people have been told to prepare for a run. but then again, joe biden makes decisions on a daily basis. and anyone that's worked with joe biden long enough knows he can change his mind. i think the day that joe biden decides to tell us that he's running will be the day that he actually decides to run. >> joe biden makes decisions on a daily basis. ben carson says stuff on a daily basis that is sometimes controversial. he did an interview this morning where he was asked -- i don't frankly know where it was about guns or his comments about arming arm arming jews in nazi germany. he explained that it is the media and all of us taking

statements o ouftd context that is the issue here. let's listen. >> you know, one of the problems with people and the media is they pick one little thing and they say that that's your philosophy on this. which is a bunch of crap, you know we are sophisticated individuals and you know it is going to be a multifactorial solution to this. >> is the problem that we're misrepresenting what ben carson is saying. >> it is all of us. it is not him. it's us. there is a reason that ben carson continually has to explain himself and reexplain himself and reexplain himself. this is not new. he had to do it after he told chris cuomo that going to prison can make you gay. he had to do it after he said a muslim couldn't be president. i remember before he began a run he talked to glen beck about the second amendment. he said something that really rang badly to conservatives and he had to sort of clean that up. so it is not us. i mean god forbid we take him at his word and listen and then comment on what he says.

it is not us. it is him. he has not spent a lot of time contemplating these issues like most presidential candidates have. he speaks off the cuff all the time. he thinks that because he's smart in one arena he's smart enough to handle basically anything that comes his way without all that much contemplation frankly. so this is why he's constantly getting into these scenarios where he says the wrong thing and then has to clarify and says that it is all of us that misheard him. >> mark, i sat down with a group of gop voters in new hampshire yesterday. they don't think he says the wrong thing. the majority of them think he is saying what they are thinking in their head. who doesn't think you should rush the gunman? that is an answer if you are trapped in a room. >> absolutely. it is always the answer until you are actually trapped in a room with a gunman. then it's hit the floor and pray. but i think he's resonating with a pocket of voters.

those are the voters that allow him to get to 19 or 20% of the base. the problem is he can't build a wider coalition if people view him as you have. i agree with her 1100%. donald trump is going to have the same problem. the problem is he can't expand the base if he says things about jews or nazi germany or questions the people this a mass shooting or you can choose to be gay when you go to prison. those won't help him long term and that is what makes people like jeb bush and rand paul -- excuse me, marco rubio feel much more comfortable at the next few months because they know voters will get serious at some point. the only question is will they eventually run out of field. >> thank you very much. >> we are just four days away now from the first democratic debate. the first democratic debate ever in this election cycle.

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very long time. >> right. because there are now approximately 50 alleged victims who have come forward basically as we've discussed. you were the catalyst. you wrote an editorial about -- you wrote an on ed about your experience with bill cosby and that sort of opened the flood gates. we had you on "new day." and since that time dozens of women have come forward. but it is this case that is so interesting. because again this is from 1974, the statute of limitations on a criminal charge has passed. how is it that judy huff is able to get cosby deposed in her story? >> well, as far as i understand statutory rape, there is no statute of limitations. so at 15 years old, she would be eligible to bring him into court and to have him tell his side of the story. it would be nice if all of us would be deposed.

we would all like to be in her shoes. and he would be looking at 55 or 56 depositions. >> let's talk about that. because since you came forward, you have been in touch with many of the other alleged accusers. so everyone is watching what happens today very closely. what is next. >> yes. >> -- for all of you? >> well it's hard to say. we're all independent and individuals and have our different paths and journeys ahead of us. you know, the statute of limitations is unfortunately is the block that is keeping all of us from seeking the justice that we deserve. but we are also, many of us, working on changing the statute of limitations. we've had success in colorado and nevada and we're working on new york and new jersey. and hopefully we can abolish the

statute of limitations all together. i believe massachusetts also recently had a change as well. so it is wonderful to see that. unfortunately though we still have that barrier that is keeping us kind of not able to do much about it at this point. >> but despite that barbara, it must be personally gratifying for you, who harbored this secret, you say, about bill cosby for so many years. and then when you went public, what do you make of what's happened in the past years with so many other women coming forward? >> it has been an amazing year. 28 years ago, 29 years ago when it happened to me seems like an eternity. but in the one year so much -- so much ground has been covered. it's been really remarkable. and when i first met you last year, almost to the day. it is going to be a full year almost. i had one intention. and that was just to empower one woman. up to the point in 2005 when i

learned about andrea khan's stand, i thought i was the only one. in 2005 when i learned there were 13, we were all scheduled to testify in a court of law for andrea khan's stand. so at that point i thought 1 was the number. and ten of them were jane does. so when i came on with you i just wanted to hopefully see one woman have the courage and the empowerment to come out. and now we're up to over 50. it is amazing to me. and there are many, many more who are not public by the way. >> so you say, you believe that you have been in touch with other women that the rest of us don't know about. do you believe that they will come forward? >> well, i don't know. some will and some will not. i do stay close in touch with them. and check in with them occasionally. and we talk. there are a few that are adamant that won't. and then a few others that were

adamant that they wouldn't and ended up changing their minds. and so over time i'm hoping that they will feel safe and brave to do that. there is nothing to be fearful of any longer. we lived in fear and shame and darkness and under threats -- direct threats by mr. cosby to shut our mouths and disappear. and that is what we did for many, many, many years. so i'm hoping that now we're looking at a new picture for women. >> well it does feel -- >> i'm proud of everyone. i'm proud of them all. >> that's great barbara. and it does feel that today is a new chapter given that bill cosby will have to be deposed in this old 1974 case. barbara bowman. great to see you. thanks so much for sharing your personal story with us, as always. >> thanks allsyn. >> talk that you soon. >> thank you. >> over to trump. donald trump, the republican front runner. he says he is a winner. but what do voters say?

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so everyone likes to complain about the tone of the presidential race. but who is responsible for that tone? i spoke to a very engaged group of new hampshire republican voters about that plus who they like and what they don't like. watch this. >> stefan, you support marco rubio. what do you respond to most about him? >> he's a young, new fresh face. i think his message really hits at home. you know my grandparents came over. they came from not really much. and they rose up and now here i am. and i think rubio's message is kind of the same way in saying the american dream is still there. >> and what do you think about this spat that he's been in with donald trump where donald trump says that he's too young and inexperienced and he sends him a prank of water and all that stuff. >> i think trump is getting a little worried, tell you the truth. you notice trump really goes on people he sees as a threat. and he didn't really see rubio as the threat until the debate.

i think rubio's handled it very well. and he hasn't really came back and truly counterpunched. he's just aissaying i'm not worried about trump. >>. >> i think the major contributor is the media. it is entertaining and gets attention. i this i the media has really played on that. attention its gotten, negative or positive has at least energized people to start pays attention to the primary early on. >> but it is a bit like jerry springer. watching a the train wreck. everyone wants to watch it for the dramatic effect. we ought to as the country and in this case the republican party ought to elevate the debate to more substantive issues than name calling. >> let's talk about somebody who has been a target of donald trump's. and that is jeb bush. what do you like about him? >> he has the public policy

experience. it is that he has the executive experience which are two big things we need to be looking for in a president since that is the job. >> bill, you like carly fiorina. >> i do. very much. >> what do you like about her? >> she is very very smart. she's a business person, which is important to me. and i'm looking to someone who understand the benefit of business, who understands that a strong united states will keep the world safe. i don't think we've seen that in the gentlemen in the oval office the last six years. and i think carly is the candidate to do that. >> carly fiorina had a lot of momentum after the cnn gop debate. do you feel that that momentum has slowed a bit? >> there are going to be ebbs and flows throughout the next couple of months leading up to the primary. so whew who gets a bump, who doesn't, i think it is over the long haul that she will ultimately prevail as the candidate. >> donald trump has been the front runner for many -- well

for two to three months. but people are creeping up on him. ben carson for one. carly fiorina are quinning to close the gap. do you see that as support for him softening? >> no i don't. i think it is like any race. sometimes so you get -- develop your wind and you hold back and then you go let loose for the finish. a lot of what donald trump has done is actually brought issues to the forefront that other candidates wouldn't bring to the front on their own. and probably really wouldn't want to address. the gop establishment hates donald trump. a lot in the media don't like donald trump and the democrats certainly don't like donald trump so that makes him very inviting to a lot of us. >> the reality is out of the gate donald trump has phenomenal name recognition. but i think as the blush is coming off the rose people are hearing what trump has to say and i think that is part of the reason the field is contracting.

>> show of hands. would the rest of you be comfortable if he became the nominee? yes you're comfortable. hmm. >> what a bunch wussies. >> donald trump is like hot sauce, all bite and no substance. >> what do you think? >> i just don't know if i can see him being elected. i don't know if he can go head to head with someone like hillary clinton or even bernie sanders. >> i hate that argument. and we hear it every election. electable. that is what the establishment uses to out candidates. and i'll say it like dr. carson or ted cruz or carly or donald trump. and what we end up with is a candidate that either doesn't win against the democrats or doesn't do what they say they are going to do. i'm concerned that the republican party is going to do what it always seems to do, as they have their selected establishment candidate.

and they throw all of their chips behind him, irregardless of whether they can win or not. >> donald trump is a very accomplished businessman but he has no public policy experience whatsoever. and that really concerns me. >> regarding trump, you know, he said a lot of things that were very liberal in the past and i'm not sure what he's going to do when he becomes president. he's saying all of these very conservative things but is that going to carry over when he's ele elected? >> i love going to new hampshire. voters have opinions there. they know the issues. they are so plugged in. always. it is just great to talk to all of them. >> not a single hand for donald trump yet he continues to lead in the poll there is and iowa and nationally. >> jerry is the one who would support donald trump and that's why he turned and called everybody else wusses. >> up next what it was like to win america's next weatherman. stick around. this is awesome.

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man is -- m -- mckenzie. congratulations. >> that was mckenzie bart. that was the moment she won the winner of tbs's america's next weatherman. part of mckenzie's prize is appearing right here on "new day" right now. >> doesn't get any better. >> it has been a great prize. >> also $100,000. >> yes. it's honestly fantastic. thank flif i've been able to earn up enough scholarship money to pay for a lot of my schooling but that hundred,000 is definitely going to play for my faster in the future and medical bills in the family and. >> why is it called america's next weatherman? did you have a lot of problems

with>> i've got an lot of crit te critiques on that. my mom was a police officer and she always got oh your the policewoman. and i'll take weatherman and kind of understand that i'll be the best weather woman at it. >> michaela pereira was a judge there. she's taught us everything we know. >> it was very nice to sit down and be able to talk to her. i'm finishing my senior year at ohio state. so kind of getting into the business and it was nice to talk to her about how to properly do that and especially since i'm a first generation college student, not only was getting into the college difficult but now trying to find a career path my parents haven't decided to take kind of on my own i definitely look for her advice. >> you are such a pro. you are so great. this when i made a total rookie mistake over there just now. i messed up.

i fouled up the intro to you. and you rolled with it. how are you able do do that so well. >> well thankfully on the show we had do the weather while bugs were dropping on us. there was a snow-nado, a hurricane. i feel like that show really prepared me to expect the unexpected. so now i mean you can throw stuff at me while i'm doing the weather and i can handle it. >> great. >> you have have talent ventriloquism. >> yes. >> and you did the weather with that too. >> i did. especially on the show. i have a puppet, her name is roxy and she did the weather with me. i used her to help students connect. and i'm excited to kind of fulfill my career just with myself. >> oh my gosh. i wish roxy were here. can you make john's mouth say things. >> i don't know. he looks pretty smart. so let's find another one. >> you are a winner.

an overachiever. we resent you for that but we congratulate you for everything else. well done. >> great to meet you. you are going to have a very bright future. >> thank you. >> now watch how you do this toss. it's so flawless. time for newsroom with ana cabrera in for carol costello. >> and friday is going to be a beautiful day, just because it's right, right? >> so true. have a great weekend. >> you too. newsroom starts now. good morning i'm ana cabrera in for carol costello. let's get to breaking news out of arizona. another deadly shooting on a college campus, this time in flagstaff arizona. one person is dead. three others wounded after an early morning shooting at northern arizona university. we learned moments ago that some members of the delta chi fraternity were involved in the shooting but we do not know what roles they may have played. we're expecting