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this comes three months after the nuclear deal with iran, a deal in which the u.s. did not demand the release of the americans imprisoned or missing tonight in iran. thanks for joining us. anderson starts now. good evening. thanks for joining us. right now at this moment in this building a plea to fill one of the most powerful positions in government, speaker of the house is going unanswered and the halls are echoing with political intrigue, personal comments and kevin mccarthy backed away from or nobody has the political support and we're learning much more about the pressure on congressman mccarthy to drop the bid including questions implied and direct about politicians' personal lives. more in a moment but the gop sc scramble for a savior. all eyes on paul ryan.
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>> all eyes on paul ryan. the problem is paul ryan doesn't want the job, anderson. he's made that so abundantly clear. but for most of the republicans, all the republicans, they are looking around saying the people that do want the job don't have the votes to get there. paul ryan likely would have the votes to get there. there is so much pressure on him. there were votes on the house floored the where members were huddled talking about it, trying to pressure him. there was a full 90-minute meeting behind closed doors first thing this morning when paul ryan sat there and didn't say a word, but it was clear from a number of sources that people were talking about the need for a unity candidate, consensus candidate about him. i'll tell you a funny story, we learned at one point there was so much desire to talk to paul ryan that he went and talked to somebody and sat next to somebody who everybody knows as a grump so people would leave him alone. >> are there any clues when he
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might make a decision or public statement about it? >> probably not, at least at this point for the next week or so and the reason is because ryan left today along with everybody else in the house for not just columbus day weekend but for a whole week. the house is in rescess for an entire week. he has three school-aged children and will do family stuff and that is one of many reasons why ryan doesn't want the job because being speaker means you travel a lot. you raise money all the time. that's part of your responsibility for the party never mind the full house and he likes to go home on the weekends and he really, it's interesting, people watching this probably think wait a minute, this is a power hungry town. how could somebody not want to be the third, second in line to the presidency, maybe the third most powerful person in this country and he's actually given up other higher office before because he says family is
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important to him but also, he's a policy wonk and he told me in an interview this summer he's in his dream job right now. he's the chair of the tax writing committee and wants to accomplish tax reform and so that's one of the many reasons why he doesn't want to do it. >> i understand mitt romney called him. >> mitt romney called him. other people have been trying to get him to say look, this is not your typical situation. we're not asking you to run for a job where there are lots of other people out there. this is kind of a call to service. that's the pitch that a lot of people are giving him but look, he has been around enough. he started out young. he's only 45 years old but still been around a long time and knows that this is a political nightmare. >> yeah. >> and it is something he doesn't want to do i'm told unless he's sure he has the backing of conservatives. the mystery around why kevin mccarthy abruptly stepped aside
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yesterday. capitol hill buzzing over accusations that might have motivated him. we should point out they are at this point only acquisitions. ma manu raju joins us. why he dropped out rumors about an affair. what do you know? >> reporter: yeah, that rumor about the affair has been circulating for sometime but ever since in that 24-hour period of mr. mccarthy dropping out of the speaker's race, people speculated as to the reason why he did. the reason why mr. mccarthy said is because he said he's a political liability and didn't want to put his conference through a tough vote to get him elected as speaker but others speculated to reasons as to why and one was an alleged affair between mr. mccarthy and the congresswoman from north carolina. both have strongly denied that there was anything there and i want to make very clear to our viewers, there is no evidence
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whatsoever that anything existed, but this has been such a subject of conversation within the halls of the capital that last week in a meeting between texas republicans and mr. mccarthy, there was a confrontation when asked directly whether or not there was any affair between him and rene elmers and mr. mccarthy denied it as he has elsewhere and walter jones, a north carolina congressman released a letter saying if any of these speaker candidates have any skeletons in their closet, they should immediately drop their bid and as we know now, mr. jones is saying the reason why he issued that letter is partly because of this rumor. similarly, ms. elmers today behind closed doors told her colleagues she was very appreciative of them standing behind her and she thanked them for their public and private support for her. she didn't really address this directly, but she did address it
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directly in a statement i'll read to you here, anderson. she said as someone whose been targeted by completely false accusations and inknew endoe, i'll be praying for those who find it acceptable to bear false witness. there is public denials and the reason mr. mccarthy said he dropped his bid to become speaker because of the very tough vote on the house floor that would happen later this month. >> thank you very much. i want to bring in jake sherman. does anyone, jake, have any proof of anything, and if not, how does a rumor sent around in a mass e-mail get to the point where actual members of congress are talking about it in any consequential way. >> i've been covering congress for several years and this is one of the post bizarre episodes. this made its way around the internet and someone from
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chicago got a number of house republican lawmakers e-mails and sent this around and said you got to get kevin mccarthy out of there. when you said mr. mccarthy and ms. elmers denied this and again, there is no evidence this is true. and this probably wouldn't have even been a story if ms. elmers had not gotten up in the conference in the closed republican meeting today and talked about it. there would have been no evidence or way to write about it. it would only be a rumor but ms. elmers got up in front of 200 people and talked about it. this became a story and almost legitimate to write about because she shared her feelings. >> we probably wouldn't have been reporting if she hadn't talked about it publicly but she's in a position where lots of people on capitol hill are talking about it, so if she doesn't address it but by addressing it it perpetuates. it had an impact on the speaker's race. >> it's unclear if it truly hadden impact. it had an impact because members
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of congress were discussing it and talking about it with each other and questioning whether it was true. again, no evidence, no republican has ever seen anything or has any hard evidence about any sort of relationship and they both deny it because it's playing in the psychological state about their leader. once somebody becomes a liability for a republican back in their district and they have to explain for them, that becomes a problem for the leader. a leader never wants to be a liability and that's what this could have become if it was true. again, no one knows. >> is there a chorus on capitol hill among he has colleagues shouting he should have stayed in? >> the only reason people wanted him to stay in, they thought he would be able to get the requisite votes. now there is a massive vacuum for power. no one knows who will be the next leader of the party and some people think mccarthy could have been the guy but he said in front of his colleagues, i'm not your guy.
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this is not my time. not my moment. to the extent he was willing to take the plunge, willing to weather the tough political storms that come on capitol hill, people wanted him to stay but otherwise, there is no huge kind of move to bring mccarthy back into the fold. >> jake sherman, appreciate your reporting. up next, it could be easier to pick a presidential nominee than finding a house speaker two. candidates with significant support from republican voters, donald trump and dr. ben carson in double digits. not one established -- no single established politician with even 10%. we'll explore the implications of that and president obama's trip to roseburg, oregon. we'll talk to one of the families he went to comfort and some controversy that greeted him tonight.
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there is new polling tonight suggesting republican voter haves eyes for two, donald trump and ben carson. only contenders with double digits in the latest poll, everybody else in single digits. you can bet donald trump loves those numbers. he has a reason to and clearly loved his campaign stop in vegas. they met a latino that might be his biggest fan.
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[ cheers ] >> let me see this. where are you from? >> i'm from colombia. >> colombia. and is this is setup? did i ever meet you before? >> i'm hispanic and i vote for mr. trump! we vote for mr. trump! yes, mr. trump, we love you. we love you all the way to the white house! >> i swear to you, i think she's totally beautiful and great. i never met her before. i swear. i just -- this all started with a "people" magazine. so here at the story. i love this story. they couldn't have been nicer. nice story, right? couldn't have been nicer. i don't know what happened. they played with my nose. i don't want touching. i don't want touching. so i'm looking, now you'll tell me, how is my nose? fine, right? >> beautiful and perfect. >> i have a wart on the end of
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my nose, can you believe it? i said, i said oh my -- i don't have -- look. it's terrible. but that's okay. because they meant it well. i think they wanted to make me look like kerry grant. do we remember kerry grant? i always wanted to look like kerry grant. anyway, you're beautiful. will you make sure she doesn't fall? come here. >> and you're welcome. despite that enthusiasm and poll numbers we're showing you again here, cnn political analyst and correspondent maggie wrote today that she hears mr. trump as starting to articulate a way out of the race and joins me with trump supporter jeffrey lord. so where do you see this, maggie, he's trying to articulate a way out. >> whether he intended to or not that's what he's been doing in a number of interviews over the course of a week and a half he talked about and very blunt,
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he's not a politician so he does say what is on his mind, that is one of his pride points and he said, you know, the question was essentially under what circumstances would you ever get out of the race? it was look, if i start to see my numbers falling, if i think you-all will stop calling me, i'll go back to my business. i think he's genuine in that. he says to me he's not a threshold for what that would be or looked how far he would have to drop and he's still leading every single poll. he had a drop after the second debate but it basically levelled out. look, he is a pragmatist and businessman and certainly known to cut his losses in the business world. i think it's not a surprise to hear him saying that. i think the question is what his next act looks like right now, how much will he spend and he says he's willing to spend for television ads. that's what happens when your poll numbers change a bit. the question is do you spend to try to keep them back up? he says he will. it remains to be seen. >> jeffrey, it's interesting ted cruz as maggie points out is
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saying he doesn't think trump will be the nominee. he's a trump ally of sorts. do you agree there is perhaps an exit strategy starting to emerge or something he's considered? >> no, no, under no circumstances. i mean, i think he's not a politician so he tries to answer these questions in an honest fashion. i really think this is a case of wish fulfillment and there are a lot of people out there, maggie quotes steward stevenson and all ka candor, donald trump was tweeping that steward stevens ran a really lousy campaign for mitt romney. he has a motive, steward stevens has a motive here to suggest that donald trump will get out of the race. i just don't see any sign for it. among other things, it would be bad for his brand if he got out of this unless he genuinely actually loses to leave the field ahead of time would do damage to his brand and he's not
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about to go there. >> i don't think anyone was suggesting he would get out while he's ahead. the question is if he does, if his numbers come down and he's had a very resilient base of support. it's been striking. scott walker took a huge tumble, donald trump had a major role in that in terms of blocking out the sun. no question. the question is not would he get out while leading? he himself said if my numbers were to go down and does not mean down in concept but down below someone else's or several someone else's, that's the question. >> the question, jeffrey, becomes after iowa or after new hampshire, what then? if neither of those are victories for him, despite, you know, leading the polls currently and maybe even up to that, if they are not, does he stay in because i do think there is an element and i have no position on this one way or another but i do think he's having fun, which i think comes out in his interviews. i think it comes out of him.
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>> he's having a great time. >> i've never seen a -- somebody bringing out a supporter like this and talking about a wart on his nose. look, he's having a good time. if it stops being enjoyable for him, you know, as presidential races usually are not the most enjoyable things. they are brutal, brutal marathons that go on and on. it would be interesting to see if the poll numbers drop or if he suffers a defeat in one or two in the early states. >> you know, he can, you know, a lot of these candidates do have to endure a long march just because you lose iowa or lose new hampshire, i mean, john mccain was at 1% of the polls in 2000 against bush. eventually he lost but went on to win the primary and get in an enormous battle that went on for sometime. this happens with regularity here. his campaign is on record saying they are going all the way to the convention and have every reason to believe.
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i spoke to him on a case and he sounds that way to me. >> maggie, it's fascinating how wrong pun dents have been all along. people said he wouldn't file the papers. he wouldn't get in. he didn't want to disclose his assets. he was a michelle bachmann, hermann cane, the numbers would drop. jeb bush, single digits with all that money. if you're in the bush campaign, it has to be panic time. >> i don't think they are enjoying themselves the way donald trump is. this is the year of the outsider. >> despite the exclamation pama? >> this is a very unusual cycle. we seen bernie sanders rise and get crowds. we didn't expect that. people didn't take him seriously including the clinton campaign for much of the year changed. he's on track to possibly win new hampshire or iowa or maybe
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both. on the right, you have seen predictions time after time that donald trump was going to -- his numbers were about to implode. that shows a misunderstanding what is happening with the electret and number two, there are 15 people in the republican primary. everybody has got a small slice of the vote. right now what we're seeing with donald trump is the question is this a ceiling or can he grow it out? so far it appears to be a ceiling. that may change. ben carson who has been doing well has been capturing a lot of support from evangelicals. that's a group that doesn't like donald trump. it will take awhile before you see his numbers go down, if they do. the prediction business is not a smart one. >> at some point -- >> anderson -- >> add an exclamation mark because i feel it will be more exciting for him and more enjoyable and i don't know that anybody, i don't know that it could be any more exciting for him.
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he doesn't need exclamation mark. >> he'll have 100. [ laughter ] >> 100 exclamation marks. >> jeffrey reco, maggie, good te you on. we're previewing tuesday's cnn debate with a focus on bernie sanders that may be new to presidential politics but no danger to combat including the bare knuckle variety and next, president obama's visit today with those who lost loved ones in roseburg, oregon will be joined by two family members that spoke with the president. order panera's new roasted turkey cranberry flatbread online with rapid pick-up then eat it, however you like. panera. food as it should be.
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that's not why he came to roseburg today. >> there are going to be, i think, moments as we go forward where we're going to have to come together and figure out how do we stop things like this from happening and, you know, i've got some very strong feelings about this because when you talk to these families, you are reminded that this could be happening to your child or your mom or your dad or your relative or your friend and so, you know, we're going to have to cop together as a country to see how we can prevent these issues from taking place but today, it's about the families. >> whatever political division there is no roseburg it's safe to say other feelings out weigh it, the goodwill neighbors have shown or the ache of loss that nine families live with every
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single day. joining us now is shannon deets, shannon was on campus nearby when the gunman took the life of her mom kim, her father eric joins us. thank you so much for being with us. i'm so sorry for your loss. shannon, first of all, how are you holding up? >> i'm doing pretty well. there's been a lot of support, so that's helped a lot. >> and eric, president obama met with each family privately. if you feel comfortable sharing it, what was your meeting like with him? >> it was comforting, actually, to know that he cared about, enough about what happened here to come out here and meet with us. >> shannon, how important was it for you today to hear from the
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president? >> well, i know he's very busy and has a lot of important things to do, so i think it was very, very good that he came out here personally to talk with us. >> eric, i understand you found out about the shooting and immediately drove to the school where kim and your daughter were. when did you learn that kim was one of the victims? >> well, i was approached by one of the people in her class who told me that she saw kim get shot, and i kind of didn't want to believe it at that time but it helped my prepare myself for the news. there is no way to describe how relieved i was when shannon called me and told me she was okay and then we just had to wait for official word. that was tough. >> shannon, what do you want people to know about your mom?
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can you tell us a little bit about her? >> she was always looking for ways to help other people. she was working on getting our dogs to become service dogs, and therapy dogs, and go to the local veterans hospital. >> it says a lot about her. >> she's -- >> eric, go ahead. >> she had had a thing or two in life that knocked her back a little bit but she was starting to get really into things and she had a love of life that's really sad to see cut off like that. and all the families, there was so much hope there for the future that was just snuffed out. that's very, very sad. >> eric, i know you wanted to say something about the community that supported you and
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your family and other families over the past week. >> i'm just amazed and humbled by all the love that this community has shown us, the support they have shown us just the whole town, the whole area rallied around us. it's amazing. never would have thought that so many people would be so involved. >> eric and shannon, again, i appreciate you taking a moment to talk with us under these circumstances and i know there's going to be a lot of difficult days and weeks and months and years ago and i wish you peace and strength. thank you very much for being with us. >> thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> eight other people lost their lives last week. one serina moore had a friend that survived. he cannot tell his story.
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>> reporter: bullet is a surviv survivor, he has witnessed the cruelty of humans firsthand. he belonged to serena moore and laid docile by her side. >> he knows she ain't coming home because he was there when the fatal day happened. >> reporter: that fatal day, nine people were gunned down inside umpqua community college. bullet was there right next to moore who was in a wheelchair when the gunman showed no mercy and shot her at she tried to obey his orders. a day after the massacre, deputies brought bullet home to moore's fiancee. >> he's been acting really droopy. he goes to the door and lays down because he's used to going in the room and sleeping with her. >> reporter: the couple got bullet about seven months ago named by the previous owner, they had no idea a bullet would end moore's life. >> he was her world. he was not only her dog, her
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best friend besides me. >> reporter: and who trained him to be a service dog? >> she did herself. >> reporter: even suffering from excruciating back pain that forced her into a wheelchair, moore trained her buddy and took him everywhere and loved him. >> it felt good to know he was still alive and he survived because it's a piece of her. bullet became a piece of serena. i was happy to get him back. i was ecstatic. >> reporter: he says his fiancee believed in the power of animals to heal. moore was going to college to get a business degree, her dream to open a ranch that offered horses for therapy. now the dog she trained is offering that same comfort to the family she was forced to leave behind. >> such an incredible story. sarah, do you know if bullet will continue helping as a service dog? >> reporter: you know, right now he really is a part of the family and doing what serena
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wanted, comforting her fiancee and family members by being there with them. i think they want to hold on to him and give him a lot of love. >> thank you very much. another shooting at another college, this time it seems to be a confrontation between students. one person killed, three injured. what charges the shooter is facing coming up and we're down to the home stretch for the democratic candidates to get ready for next week debate. a look at the debate styles next. reach can quickly become the only thing you think about. that's where at&t can help. at at&t we monitor our network traffic so we can see things others can't. mitigating risks across your business. leaving you free to focus on what matters most.
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just four days until the democratic presidential debate, i'll be moderating as candidates appear on the stage together for the first time. tonight we're focussing on the top two candidates and what might happen when they square off. bernie sanders might be new to the presidential debate spotlight but you're about to see a debating novembi inovit. >>. >> reporter: senator bernie sanders have taken part in at
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least 19 political debates. hillary clinton at least 25. vermont journalist greg guma saw some of sanders first debates back in the 1970s. >> he's very practiced as a debater and able to really boil it down to a clear message. he's ready made. >> there is nothing wrong. >> reporter: it's a style he describes as assertive, disciplined and confident. >> here is a man that talks about partisan hatred and yet, you have run the most negative, dishonest campaign in the history of the state of vermont. >> uses his hands and has distinctive hand gestures, pointing gestures like this or like this using both hands. i look at it as a prothetic style, like a john the baptist who is sort of bringing this moral gospel to people in an inspiring way. >> tax breaks the baillionaires
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>> reporter: when he trades b n barbs, it could be settle. >> you made it clear you would vote for mr. gingrich, that type of ideology will be the prevalent ideology. why would you support such a right-wing extremist? >> reporter: sanders likes to stand and also likes to point fingers. >> it's people like you -- >> reporter: the fact his opponent hillary clinton praised the chance pacific partnership trade deal 44 times and now opposes it, sanders may see an opening. over the years on the debate stage he's had little tolerance for those he sees as flip-floppers. sanders is relentlessly on message and good at spinning questions out answering them. >> call a spade a spade. talk about what really goes on in this country. >> reporter: he will defend himself if attacked, but is not
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one to get flustered. >> says the economy is really booming and doing well. it's wrong. >> reporter: sanders seemed over the years to cool it with the bristol less and watch his body language so don't expect him to come out acting grumpy and keep an eye out for his conversational style which he hopes will stand out on the national stage in stark contrast to those laying it on thick with policy. randi kaye, cnn new york. predictions on what to look for from bernie sanders on tuesday night and insight on hillary clinton's debate. new york times presidential campaign correspondent maggie. let's talk about bernie sanders. it's interesting how experienced he is, which a lot of people may not realize in debating. >> he's really experienced in debating and when you talk to people that watched the debates or been in the debates, they will say he can be very aggressive. you saw in the clip part of the way the debate was laid out was to get out of the chair and
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speak but when he started pointing that stood out as reminiscing for them where he was urging her to sign a ban of soft money. that's something he needs to watch for but he is a good debater. he will just keep talking. >> yet, he made very clear on the campaign trail and stuck to it, he's not attacking hillary clinton by name. he'll make a bleak reference from time to time but he's really honored. >> as we have gotten closer to the debate, he's gotten more pointed in the contrast and rhetoric is more pointed. these are not person criticisms. he did a pod cast with david axle rod a couple weeks ago or days ago in which he said look, there is plenty of establishment candidates you have some to choose from. that is who he is talking about. the challenge for her and i wrote about this recently is that it's reminiscing of 2008
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and her efforts to push back or defend herself were often described as not fair and i think that's a challenge. >> is it clear how she's preparing for the debate? >> extensively with a lot of debate prep. briefing books and sessions and not a ton of people in these rooms with her. it is her and a couple top aids. bob barnett, the washington super lawyer has been playing bernie sanders, jake sullivan, her domestic policy advisor has been playing martin o'malley and they are repairing for a bunch of different avenues but in terms of sanders and hillary clinton herself has previewed this this week on the stump, she's clearly going to say i know how i'm paying for my plans and hint that bernie sanders plans he called for aren't really workable or feasible. she's also going to draw a contrast with him though, i think martin o'malley will, too
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with guns. he's not been where a lot of democratic party is. he's certainly now on this and i think that's going to be an area of issue. >> as you look back at other hillary clinton debates, how do you think she's done? >> i think she's a good debater and i think the reviews have been good. the problem is she had one memorable mistake in the 2008 primary, driver's licenses. the october 2007 debate where she faltered when asked about a plan to grant undocumented immigrants drivers' licenses and she gave an answer supporting it but gotten so much heat for faltering on it that it really was also a moment when voters were starting to tune into the race. that's the issue with this debate is that people really are tuning in for the first time. >> i'm fascinated to see the dynami dynamics. >> i think we're going to see a more civil discourage likely than what we saw in some republican debates. the absence of donald trump in any debate changes the tenuer.
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i think she is going to -- she did not take bernie sanders seriously for much of this year so i think that if she is able to treat him respectfully and if she is able to say i agree with a lot of what you say but i think i'm better because of x, y, z. >> that's what martin o'malley is going to criticize her for. >> thank you. be sure to tune in next week. i'm moderating tuesday night 8:30 eastern right here on cnn. just ahead tonight, the united states going to stop training rebels in syria at least for now. at issue a program that's been a big failure with a bigger price tag. why the government is hitting pause now and what the new strategy is going to be, next. amerivest selects the funds and manages your portfolio. is it run by robots? no no, you can talk to a person anytime.
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after spending nearly half a billion dollars training syrian rebels, the united states announced today it's suspending the program. u.s. officials characterize it as a pause. ashton carter said it's going to stop training forces to fight
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isis but the strategy is changing. barbara, training the syrian opposition is never successful. why do you think it's taken so long for administration to admit that? >> a bit of a mystery. u.s. special operations forces had been really pushing some of these new propels for weeks, if not months, and pentagon officials tell me they could not get a decision out of the white house about making the changes that they thought were needed about going and working with this new coalition in northern syria and helping them out. you know, hard to admit that it's not working what you're doing but there is no other way to look at this. this is a massive overhaul of one of the pillars of the u.s. fight against isis. >> about this overall, any reason to believe it will be any more successful than the old plan? >> the pentagon will tell you their hope is they think it might be because these are rebels in the battle field, are already fighting isis.
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they think they can get past the problem that the rebels aren't so interested in fighting isis and want to fight bashar al-assad. they appear to be really devoteed to getting after isis and the u.s. is promising them weapons, gear and possibly air strikes if they keep up that part of the fight. >> all right. barbara, thanks very much. >> sure. let's check some of the other stories we're following. randi kaye has the 360 bulletin. >> shooting at northern arizona university left one dead. police say a freshman shot the four students during a confrontation that took place in a parking lot. the suspect has been charged with one count of first-degree murder and three counts of felony aggravated assault and is now being held on $2 million bond. the first person diagnosed with ebola in the u.k. is back in isolation in a london hospital. she was sent home in january after recovering but is now in serious condition with what the
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hospital calls an unusual late complication. she is a nurse and contracted ebola working in sierra leone. authorities found the cause of a fiery derailment of a train carrying crude oil. a broken rail is to blame. and a noble prize surprise, it didn't go to pope francis or big naimes batted around. it went to the core tet. >> thanks very much. anthony bourdain heads somewhere new and attempts to eat pig's feet next.
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well, this sunday on a new episode of "parts unknown"
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anthony bourdain heads to japan. he told me about it when we met recently in the kitchen at the new york restaurant where tony was once executive chef and tried yet again to challenge my unadventurous pal let. >> no dish says anderson cooper more, when i thought we were doing lunch today, pigs' foot. >> that is a pigs' foot. >> that's a pig's foot? >> fat, cartilage, bone. >> that's too far. >> never say never. [ laughter ] >> this is the noblest part of the animal. >> you wouldn't eat that big wad of fat, would you? >> i would and i shall. [ laughter ] >> i tell you, that's what cooking is about. >> so that's not japan? >> that's not japan in a lot of ways. there's a lot of animosity going
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back to world war ii to the fighting that where they were asked to essentially sacrifice themselves for the mainland with whom they had a not particularly great relationship to start with. it always looked west and looked elsewhere, out ward looking. they traded with others where as japan was largely isolated in isolationest. it feels completely different than anywhere i've been in japan. >> there has been a big u.s. presence there and there is sort of mixed feelings about that, right? >> i forget the exact number. we arrived in world war ii and we never left. and they have been asked to bear most of the blunt of hosting our military bases where as the mainland really hasn't, something they feel acutely. look, put 30,000 horney marines in one small area, it will
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change things and it has changed okinwa in ways they are comfortable with and ways that have been difficult. >> did you do marshall arts there. >> it's the home of karate and a number of other marshall arts. they were forbidden by their japanese over lords -- >> to have weapons, right? >> to have any kind of weapons so they developed striking arts around agricultural tools and bare-handed methods. we went to a karate dojo and the warmups alone are unbelievable. this will be mind-blowing when you see what these people do to their bodies before they even start training, it's pretty incredible. >> cool. >> i don't think i ate the pigs' feet. i think i was able to avoid that. tune in for anthony bourdain "parts unknown" right here on
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cnn. that does it for us. thanks for watching. "cnn tonight" with don lemon starts now. this is the weekend that could change the campaign and the balance of power in congress. this is cnn tonight, i'm don lemon with four days to go until the big cnn democratic debate, candidates are cramming and joe biden is closer than ever to getting into this race as he convened a family meeting. hillary clinton goes behind closed doors with black lives matter activists and tweets racism is america's original sin and the candidates say this. >> i have a lot of friends african americans in new york say you'll get most of the vote. >> would you do something specifically and more for the black community? >> i would. i would do something specifically to create ladders of opportunity that allow people to climb out of poverty. >>