this is gps, global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. we have great show today. we will discuss vladmir putin's boots in the middle east and also in crukraine. this week there was a downing on

the malaysian airline passenger jet. i'll have an exclusive interview with ukraine's president. also, the terror threat to the american homeland. how has the emergence of isis changed the calculus of risk. aisle talk to ray kelly, the longest serving police commissioner ever from new york city. then the terror threat across the atlantic in africa. the threats and ambitions of somalias indiscriminant killers. first, here is my take.

vladmir putin has america's foreign policy swooning. not since the end of the cold war has russia been as assertive or washington as acquiescent. the last time it made these kinds of moves in the late 1970s and 1980 it invaded afghanistan and intervened in other countries as well. wac then commentators similarly hailed those actions as signs that moscow was winning the cold war. how did that work out for the soviet union. washington foreign policy leaders have developed the mind set that mistakes activity for achievement. they assume that every crisis can and should be solved by a

vigorous assertion of military power. failure to do this produces weakness. never mind that those countries are desperately trying to sure up a sink ally. their client, the assad regime is a minority regime. it faces a series of deadly insurgencies supported by vast portions of the syrian population. if russia and iran win against the odds they get syria which is a caldron, not a prize. imagine if today's interventionist had their way and president obama escalated force in the middle east. imagine it was successful and the assad regime fell. what would be the likely outcome. here is some clues. washington deposed the regime in iraq, syria's next door neighbor

with many of the same tribes and sectarian divides. it did far more in iraq than anyone is asking for in syria putting 170,000 boots on the ground and spending nearly two trillion dollars over a decade. yet a humanitarian catastrophe ensued. washington then deposed in libya but chose to lead nation building to the locals. in yemen the united states supported regime change and new elections. the result a civil war that is tearing the country apart. those that are so righteous and certain this next intervention should save lives should pause the humanitarian consequences of the last three. in neil ferguson's biography i

was struck by how today's mood resembles that of the 1950s. in the 1950s if atmosphere abounded with what seemed deeply dangerous proposals simply designed to demonstrate strength strength and vigor to military confrontations with the soviet union and hungary to the use of nuclear weapons over taiwan. they were outraged that north vietnam and cuba had gone communist while the united states just sat there and watched. in the midst of all these petitions and pleas for action, one man, president dwight eisenhower kept his cool even though it sank his poll numbers.

i believe the decades from now we will be glad that barack obama chose dwightizen h eisenh path and not putin's. let's get started. when malaysia airline flight 17 was shot down over ukraine 17 months ago 192 perished. a report was released on how and why its citizens and others died. it said that a russian made buk missile fired from territory controlled by pro-russian separatist is what downed the

airline. joining is ukraine's president. thank you for joining me. >> thank you for the invitation. >> do you believe that ukraine should have shut down its air space given the knowledge you had, the violence that already afoot? >> of course. ukraine is strictly all for the recommendation. the time we close the air space seems to me 9,725 meters. we don't have any information that give us the necessity to close there despite above these

echolon. with not imagine russia will transfer highly sophisticate and ready technological hands of the terrorists and don't have any background, any basis for making this decision. >> one of the things people are trying to figure out in the west is vladmir putin searching for a negotiated settlement in ukraine? is he searching for way to deescalate the situation, to stabilize the situation because he faces shrinking economy, sanctions, collapse of oil prices and now he has this intervention in syria? do you believe that putin is looking for some kind of settlement? do you see any signs of that? >> i wish but unfortunately, no.

until the september we have an active cooperation and only now we have a cease-fire. we don't have any continuation of the implementation of the explosives. the first decision which putin should make is withdraw his troops from ukraine and territory. i think that the absolutely irresponsible behavior in syria when he launched the separation this is continue to logic which is sad even last year when first it was crimea. second it was syria. fourth maybe, i don't know. >> you were seen in the ukraine plane that's been outfitted to nato standards. i wonder do you want ukraine to

become a member of nato? >> this is very important question. of course, i want a peace, security as a president for my country, for my people. especially in this indication where we under attack of russia and when we are object of aggression. after russian aggression they destroyed all system based on will putin charter and principle of the united nations. when we have situation one of the permanent member of the security council is an aggres r aggressor. all mechanism which was created is not working. now it's my responsibility to

provide reforming my country to transform the country and we'll have these discussions. i think i need for there to be five, six, years. >> mr. president, pleasure to have you on. >> thank you very much, indeed. next on gps, last month saw the 9/11 anniversary, the pope's visit to america and united nations general assembly. all passed without incident. just how much has the advent of isis increased the terror threat to the american homeland. i will talk to former new york city police commissioner ray kelly. the promise of the cloud is that every organization has unlimited access to information, no matter where they are. the microsoft cloud gives our team the power to instantly deliver critical information to people, whenever they need it. here at accuweather, we get up to 10 billion data requests every day.

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vigilance is the title of the book recounted his 50 years in law enforcement. we talked about many things from terror to police misconduct to mass shootings and gun control. i started by asking him just how isis has changed the threat matrix against the united states. >> isis has been a bit of a game changer. we haven't seen them with a resources they've had and the facility to use social media to get the word out to recruit. obviously, still effectively

recruiting. they're brutality has kept a lot of things in line in the middle east. i'm concerned about it. i'm also concerned about a cyber terrorist vent, perhaps generated by them because they have shown this ability to use the internet effectively. >> when you think about this question of recruiting and you ask yourself how would you figure out whether there are some either vulnerable or crazy or evil people out there, young people who might be attracted to this ideology. what should the fbi, police departments in the united states or in europe be doing to try figure out, because it seems like such a big attack? >> very difficult, very challenging.

something that's helped in the past is monitoring chat rooms. he gets some indication of young people who are talking. >> the videos. what do you think has gone wrong in so many of those cases. >> the whole video world has been a bit of a game changer. some people minds this is auspicious confirm.

a lot of introsepgs pection is on. i think it regain trust in the community. the murder of scott in north charleston in north carolina. that trial is coming up. now at least potentially police officers cameras you'll be able to see a beginning, end, middle and end. i believe those cameras will show just a great preponderance of good work. >> when you look at these mass shootings in the united states. you travel and read a lot about

what's going on, we have 20, 30, 40 times as many gun homicides as france and germany does, what do you think? >> i'm very pessimistic about it. you have as many as 40 million people, we're told, with significant mental issues and you put that together, it's a terrible combination. >> if you had your way would you have stricter background checks? >> yeah. i think a lot of these things have been around for years. years ago i was the other secretary of the treasury and atf reported to me and we looked at issues as far as the gun show loophole, that a big, big deal. we said that almost 40% of crime guns were coming through the gun show loophole. it's narrow because the states

have addressed the issue. that seems like a no brainer. the whole notion of going to a gun show that's there to sell guns and you and i are just casual buyers and sellers and we don't have to go through a background check wasn't make sense. you would think that issue would be addressed on both sides of the aisle in washington. they haven't wanted to go near the gun show loophole. >> you're pessimistic that much won't get done? >> unfortunately, i am. i just don't see the will to do it. we'll look at the mass shootings for a couple of days in the press. guns are the problem, not the people. the people are problem, not the guns. that's sort of where we in this country. >> ray kelly, pleasure to have you on. >> thank you. good to be with you.

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the world was outraged by the american military's recent bombing of a hospital in the half began city. president obama personally apologized to the head of doctors without borders which ran the hospital and offered condolences to afghanistan's president. did you hear about a much worse air strike last month when a wedding party was struck, killing 131 people. a few days later another wedding was hit killing more than 20 others accordi ining to local officials. these were sites in yemen. to refresh your memory back in january yemen's president was ousted by rebels. the saudi royal family panicked and was seen as a proxy force

for saudi arabia's rival iran. so a coalition of its allies began punishing air strikes in march. the u.s. is part of the effort backing the saudis with intelligence support for the strikes. according to the u.n. over 2,000 civilians have been killed since the saudi's joined a few months ago. the majority were hit by coalition air strikes. by contrast only 16% with hit in afghanistan caused by pro-government forces and only 1% caused by international forces. their striking non-military targets with great frequency showing an appalling disregard for group lives and there's

damming evidence of war crimes. the u.s. doesn't say much about the strikes and it even failed to push through an independent u.n. investigation that is saudis opposed. that's about 80% of the population. entire cities lie if ruins and much of the country is on the brink of famine because the saudi's are blockading the ports. iran's involvement is not strong or direct and the yemeni president hopes to restore fere power may have been democratic. he was the only candidate on the ballot. this whole operation might be creating more terrorism.

they are bitter rivals of al qaeda and yemen and effective at fighting them. isis is gaining momentum amid this chaos mounting suicide bombings all over the country. the actions are largely shaped by the intensely anti-shiite and radical world view. one that's fed sunni extremism for decades. next, terror loves power vacuums like yemen. in a moment you'll hear about the devastating terror group that's growing in a power vacuum in africa. kenya's president will tell me about the threat his nation is facing from right next door.

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i sat down with kenya's president to discuss terror, economics and playing host to president obama. to see the rise of first it was al qaeda isis in africa.

the best way to put this is really and this is an argument. this is not really a kenyan situation. it was just open. >> some have gotten radicalized. we must look at boka haram and think about the same thing. what is the answer? what seems to be attractive to young men, particularly.

fighting mosque. telling them what you're doing. you're look for god. now this is what we really got to focus ourselves on. how we make this so attractive. al qaeda do not represent it.

>> there are a lot of investors i talked to, a lot of businessmen say much of the reform they had hoped would take place in africa has stalled because between corruption and dysfunction it's so much of it in africa that it's blocking purpose. would you agree with that? >> i would look at it differently. i would say we have challenges. this is why kenyans chose for themselves a new constitution in 2010 that sought to reorganize.

>> people still say you are supremely powerful. >> i don't know about supremely powerful but if you look at the situation that we have today in kenya and compare it to where we were before. that is actually not the case. i have no power to appoint or fire judges anymore. really my rule is more or less saying that whatever the commission does. it's gained its independence. the same applies to the legislature. where the issue of power comes from is it says you control parliament. yes, it's true. we have a majority in parliament. we have that majority because the people chose to give that majority to the party to which i belong to. >> when people talk about gay

rights to you and president obama did this on his visit there, you say, look, we have our culture. we have our traditions. don't try to impose your values on us. the problem for us in the west it's not seen as matter of culture values it's seen as a matter of human rights. they were born with. i think first and foremost we're all saying.

where we are, if level of development i am not saying that peas people don't have their rights. that's not what i'm saying. i am just saying that the majority, the majority in our society realize this issue of gay rights. >> can you persuade them? >> people in kenya are not at this point entitled. that's exactly what i said when we were with president obama. to them there is not an issue. they have more pressing issues. however, that said i am also and will not allow people to persecute any individuals or to beat them or to torture them.

whi witch hunts. we won't allow people to take the law into their own hands. every individual has the right to be protected by the law. that's stated in our constitution. what we're saying is that as a society we do not accept some of these values. this is where i'm saying we've got to get synergies. you're not going to create the united states of america or the great britain or the netherlands or kenya or nigeria overnight. these are processes and they take time. up next, slaughter says no one would expect male ceo to juggle his work responsibilities with parenting. why do we expect a female ceo to

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in a piece titled why women still can't have it all. now she's broaden it out into a terrific book, unfinished business. the book is about the different roles men and women play at work and at home.

you argue that things in the workplace is much more different than people realize. it's a toxic environment. why? >> what i say is we don't make room for care gaving. we used to have a world in which men worked in the office and men stayed home and took care of people and those were equally necessary activities and equally important. now we have a world in which for 60% of american women, women are working as well as men, but we haven't changed workplace. we haven't made room for an essential human activity but more women is doing it than men, which is care. >> you look at the data that we see and you see america has a real competitiveness problem because women and men start out in education. then it changes.

>> absolutely. >> ten years out women start dropping out the work force. why? >> since the 1990s we're only at 20% of women and senior management. that's in a really good industry. the drop off is dramatic. the drop off is typically because women get shut out. when they have kids and they are the lead parent then they need more flexibility. either they get taken off leadership track when they take flexibility or the workplace is unwilling to accommodate what they need. they step out and we as a nation are losing human amounts of talent. the other big message of the book is we have a halfway revolution.

women have opportunities they've never had before. men's roles are where they were in the 50s. that's an imbalance when you look at a male ceo he's expected to be completely on the job and he's got a lead parent at home. when we have a woman ceo, somehow we're expected here to be ceo and lead parent. that can't happen. if she's going to have a lead parent, in most cases it's going to be her husband, sometimes her wife, that's where we have to focus on changing rules. >> you say your career would not have been possible if not for the fact your husband was the lead parent. >> absolutely. >> first your not just her husband you're also a tenured professor of european politics at princeton university. what do you think we can learn from northern europe? is this a problem can be solved

with a few governmental shifts? >> not solely. the starting place is maternal leave, flexibility this the workplace and job security for people. we were fortunate to be in the academic profession where we have those things. the trade off of becoming the lead parent and taking care of the kids was not so incompatible with being successful in my career that i was unable to manage it. that's what made this possible. it's more possible to do that in countries like sweden and denmark than in the united states today. >> does europe have the kind of equality you'd expect at the higher levels. what i'm struck by is culture must also play a role. europe has better laws but in many ways opportunities are more available to women in america because of the idea that begin can succeed. >> many couples start out of

wanting to have 50/50 career opportunities for both members of the couple and 50/50 child care responsibility sharing. they can't achieve it. part of the reason is institutional and workplace related but it's also cultural. we have values in this country where we don't feel a man who takes the child care responsibilities who becomes the lead parent has the same standing in society that a woman does. not many people will take advantage of the opportunities that we make possible. >> do you think men would accept the changes? >> i do. men are trapped the same way that we often think women are trapped. women are trapped in a role which is now a role of trying to do both the care giving and for career women, working. men are trapped in a role where they have to work and can't choose to be care givers as well. i found it tremendously

rewarding to step back from that a little bit and be a care giver at the same time as i worked. here is the truth that studies tell us. at the end of life, men look back and overwhelmingly say i wish i had spent more time caring for friends and family and less time doing the things that other people expected me to do in the workplace. >> it does lead to competitive parenting. now the boy text him more than they text me. it drives me nuts. >> pleasure to have you both on. >> thank you very much. next on gps, isis this week issued a jihad against america and russian, too, for good measure. i'll tell you about a jihad that intends to better the world. not create for violence and blood sled.

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this week treasury secretary said the u.s. would hit the debt ceiling on november 3rd earlier than predicted. the situation requires action but when you compare to debt to the country's gdp it's worse in other parts of the world and it brings to my question of the week. what country has the highest debt to gdp ratio? stay tuned. we'll tell you the correct answer. this week's book of the week is super forecasting. the art and science of prediction. if you're wondering if there's any way to predict an election, an economic crisis or even a war, he uses psychology and political science and a lot of kmoms and taps into what's called the wisdom of crowds. this is a fascinating book and

it will make you think. now for the last look. what do a papal and an islamic jihad have in common? this isn't the start of a bad joke. you'll recall pope francis gave call to action in his environmental and cyclical this summer in which he wrote these stinging words. the earth, our home, is beginning to look like an immense pile of filth. a dump is large is nicknamed mountain. a synagogue has declared a green jihad. yes, a jihad against pollution. human health is put at risk by emissions and pollution. the world health organization

attributed nearly 45,000 deaths of children under five years of age in 2012 to ambient air pollution in africa. one photographer captured the pollution problem with stunning images titled the prophesy. he depicts not only the danger but hope for a better future as the huffington post pointed out. you hear a lot from the science community about the dangers of climate change but calls to action from artists or religious leaders are surely essential too. i am delighted that a devout muslim religious leader is using the idea of jihad to call for positive action to better the environment and help human beings in this world. the correct answer to our gps challenge question was d, japan. according to the imf projections the land of the rising sun will have nearly a 246 debt to gdp ratio this year.

the united states is projected to be many 14th place with a debt to gdp with roughly one of five percent. still not a prize by any stretch of the imagination. i'll see you next week. good morning. it's time for reliable sources. our weekly look at the story behind the story. it's the end of an era. is no news good news for playboy? we'll get a tape from larry flint. from adult magazines to children's books. a very personal interview with r.l.stine. one of the best selling athorouauthors of all time. carl bernstein is standing by to talk about tuesday's debate. let's start with the next debate. the gop ma