winner by a 2 to 1 margin. she has a 16-point lead over bernie sanders. there is also insight in the poll into biden's potential as which issues voters feel are most important and which candidates they think are best equipped to handle things like gun violence and the economy. let's take a look. 71% of voters say they like their choices now. 30% say they are not very satisfied. if joe biden does not jump into the race, clinton's lead over sanders widens to 23 points and the vice president's window may be closing. a slim majority of democratic voters now believe he should not enter the race. a lot to talk about this morning. >> absolutely. let's do that with cnn senior political correspondent brianna keilar live in washington, digging deep into the numbers. what do you see, my friend? >> looking at all of those

polls, what all americans would think, hillary clinton, her favorable rating at this point, 46%. that is up from 44% in august. her unfavorable at 50%. that is down from 53% in august. so the glass half full here is she's making progress. the glass half empty is she's still under water when it comes to her favorable/unfavorable. among democratic voters, democratic leaning voter as well, when asked which democratic candidate do you trust most to handle a myriad of issues, hillary clinton besting bernie sanders by a lot here. certainly let's look at foreign policy, for instance. this is an issue that republicans are going to make a big issue of, come the general election, especially if clinton is the no, ma'amfy. she's heading into this week where she's talking about foreign policy. she'll be testifying before the benghazi committee. she's at 62% of democratic leaning democratic voters saying she is the one they trust on

this issue. 42% advantage over joe biden. 53-point advantage over bernie sanders. that's huge. and how does she stack up in these head-to-head matchups? well, up against ben carson, this is a statistically tied matchup against one of the top two republican front-runners. she has five points, though, on donald trump. the republican front-runner, plus or minus three points there. it just goes to show you, it is a competitive general election matchup, michaela but she certainly does not have this in the bag at this point. >> interesting to see those numbers develop. all right, brianna, now to the escalating war of words on the republican ticket. donald trump says his immigration stance would have prevented the 9/11 attacks. jeb bush defending his brother's record, telling cnn that giving trump access to nuclear codes would be a grave mistake. cnn's athena jones live in dallas.

my goodness. >> my goodness exactly. good morning, michaela. both of these candidates believe this feud is good for them. jeb bush shows he has the fire in the belly to fight for this nomination. and he's not low energy. trump gets to poke at jeb bush and link him to the past. >> i'm not blaming george bush, but i don't want jeb bush to say my brother kept us safe. >> reporter: the feud between donald trump and jeb bush is heating up. >> for him it looks as though he's an actor playing the role of a candidate for president. >> reporter: from the sunday shows to social media, with bush defending his brother's handling of the september 11th attacks. >> he united the country, he organized our country and kept us safe. >> reporter: bush said by repeatedly bringing up 9/11 trump shows he's not, quote, a serious person. and that he has grave concerns about trump being in charge of nuclear weapons. >> across the spectrumf foreign policy, mr. trump talks about things as though he's

still on t"the apprentice." >> reporter: he said he was taking issue with jeb saying his brother kept america safe. >> the world trade centers came down. we lost 3,000 people. that's not safe. >> reporter: trump told bloomberg television -- >> when you talk about george bush, say what you want, the world trade center came down during his time. >> you can't blame george bush for that. >> he was president, okay? >> reporter: bush quickly fired back on twitter, calling the gop front-runner pathetic. >> dealing with killers. >> reporter: now his campaign is mocking trump in a new video, using his own words. >> who do you talk to for military advice. >> i watch the shows. >> that's one of the ways he bones up on our national security. >> reporter: and fund-raising, sending this appeal to supporters. arguing that under trump's logic, fdr should be blamed for pearl harbor. this as trump insisted he could have prevented 9/11, because his

tough stance on immigration would have kept the hijackers out. >> there's a good chance that those people would not have been in our country. >> reporter: meanwhile, ben carson made an unusual claim, saying president bush could have used oil against leverage against arab states to find osama bin laden sooner. >> i think they would have known where he was. >> reporter: now, carson is also defending george w. bush, saying it's ridiculous to suggest he was responsible for the 9/11 attacks. huckabee is echoing carson saying the blame lies with islamic jihadist. >> you've given us a lot of material to work with. thanks for the background. joining us now, maggie haverman and errol lewis. this fight about 9/11, who does this benefit? who's winning, jeb or trump. >> it locks them into their

positions. 85% in a recent poll of republicans said they think that george w. bush kept us safe. that pretty much tracks with the percentage of people who don't want donald trump to be president. he's speaking to his base. that's what he does. for the establishment, the republicans represented in this case by jeb bush, i think that's really where a lot of people think george bush's place is history is going to be. that he kept the country safe. he did what he had to do, that the proper time to start sort of counting all of that is after the attack and not before the attack. and the rest is, you know, bush versus trump. for donald trump, george bush is in some ways his worst nightmare. he has a super pac with $100 million waiting in the wings. he is the republican, the embodiment of the republican establishment. if trump is going to have a hard time when the votes actually start getting cast, it's going to be from the part of the party that jeb bush leads. >> here's what we know. the big brains within the republican party are telling

jeb, be calm, play your own game, let this play out. don't lose who you are. isn't this an example of doing the opposite? playing on this premise that trump comes up with and playing in a way that only trump does well. >> i think errol is right, there's a large part of the republican pace that think george bush did a good job after 9/11. >> why play the game? >> i think trump is succeeding in getting under his skin. he's running an active campaign which is donald trump hectoring and heckling him at this point. >> they are saying don't tweet that. >> i don't think they're saying that. they're saying go ahead and tweet that. >> what's the calculus. >> george w. bush remains popular with a large swath of the voters that jeb bush needs in iowa and south carolina in particular. a lot of evangelical supporters really like his brother. this gives him, i think, in his

mind a clear way of dealing with his brother, something he was comfortable with and something to embrace. donald trump sounds much more like michael moore, circa 2004 than anything we heard within a republican primary on the topic of george w. bush. there's a reason why you were saying ben carson and mike huckabee are separating themselves. it's an unclear question. a lot of republicans don't like the aftermath of what happened with 9/11 with. they don't like the extended fight in the middle east. you saw trump kind of turn it toward that. trump dealt an initial blow and tried to clean it up. you are going to see him play toward the idea of george w. bush having some play. >> he's saying because of my tough immigration policy, where i wouldn't be letting people in, i would haveeen able to prevent 9/11. let's hear him make that case. >> i am extremely, extremely tough on illegal immigration. i'm extremely tough on people coming into this country. i believe that if i were running

things, i doubt those families would have -- i doubt those people would have been in the country. so there's a good chance that those people would not have been in our country. with that being said, i'm not blaming george bush but i don't want jeb bush to say my brother kept us safe, because september 11th was one of the worst days in the history of this country. >> this is what trump supporters believe about him, his immigration policy will keep us safe. >> it's simplistic and fight wrong, we should say that. >> 18 of the 19 were here legally. >> he would crack down on tourists and student visas is his point. >> no. you have to press him on that the next time you get a chance to talk with him. this is where he gets on to shaky gropd. maggie is exactly right. he's trying to pivot away from that. if you want to make the case that visa overstays are not the major source of undocumented people in this country, which is in fact the case. people come as tourists and

students and overstay their visa. they're not scrambling over the border on the southwest border. >> isn't he saying he would send back people who overstay their visas? that was part of the plan. >> if this is going to be solved by the wall, it's up to him to explain how building the wall will stop these people. if you want to make a larger case that somehow george w. bush is responsible, you have to go into an area where donald trump is not comfortable at all. you'll have to parse what was known, what did the 9/11 commission come up with? what dots could they have connected before september 11th? he's not prepared toe did that at all. >> it's a smart wall. it gets a read on who you are and whether you should be here. >> a joan the phone. >> brilliant. >> how do you figure carson is with the numbers? >> i think the ticket will look better and it will be that way for a while, deenpending on how

her testimony goes this week, the debate helped her fight a bit. >> ben carson said something interesting. he said he was opposed to the war in afghanistan. he would not have gone to war in afghanistan after the u.s. was attacked on 9/11. in fact, he would have just told afghanistan or saudi arabia to hand over osama bin laden and he would have made a threat and they would have done it. listen to his logic. >> i think they would have been extremely concerned if we had declared and we were serious about it, that we would have become petroleum independent. it would have had a major impact on their finances. that would have trumped loyalty they had to pell like osama bin laden. >> there you go, errol, there's a foreign policy idea. we didn't have to go to war in afghanistan. >> that's an interesting conc t concept. the number one oil producer in the world in 2014 was the united states. i mean, i'm not sure where ben

carson is coming from and the logic of it is very hard to follow. again, we should really ask him, what exactly do you mean by this? the taliban, i think, had every indication that the united states was very serious, as the president spoke before congress, spoke before the world as the greatest army in the world, the armed forces started to crank up and were clearly on their way to afghanistan. i don't know if we could have been any more serious about the intention of finding and dismantling al qaeda. >> yet they didn't hand over osama bin laden is your point. >> strangely enough, they did not. >> there were some issues around the terrain. the no man's land where much of al qaeda was hiding out, inpenetratable through sonar and radar. it's not as if the nation didn't try. >> how much of this is just pandering? i remember interviewing the president of pakistan, pervez musharraf. if you find osama bin laden,

will you turn him over? he was like, let's not talk about that right now. let's figure out some other things first. that was him. sometimes these positions play to what your common sense is on it. we could have pressured them with money, that's what they want but it doesn't bear fruit if you look at it deeper. >> maggie, errol, thank you. breaking news. it is being called one of the most brazen attacks in the month-long wave of israeli/palestinian violence. a shooting at a bus station, killing an israeli soldier and wounding 11 others. the attacker said to be wounded with a gun and a knife. so a 6-year-old in chicago shoots and kills his 3-year-old brother. you've heard this kind of story before but this time, the police are charging the boy's father,

michael santiago with child endangerment for knowingly leaving a loaded gun on top of the refrigerator. accidental shooting? yes. it happened when they were playing cops and robbers. the police are saying if not for improper storage, that kid would be alive. another terrible story to tell you about. the weekend death of a high school football player in texas, the sixth nationwide since early september. alto high school junior cameron matthews collapsed and suffered a seizure during a game friday night. he told teammates earlier that day that he felt dizzy. mexican authorities could be closing in on joaquin "el chapo" guzman. he suffered injuries to his leg and face after eluding authorities during an attempt to capture him last week. a pilot suspected of helping the fugitive is under arrest. could that help track down el chapo soon?

we have the latest on this ongoing manhunt. >> reporter: the mexican marines have launched a massive operation by air and land targeting several villages in the rugged mountains of northwest mexico. their goal, capturing joaquin "el chapo" guzman, the leader of a cartel and one of the most wanted men in the world. new video emerging in the intense manhunt for joaquin "el chapo" guzman, burnt out vehicles riddled with bullet holes, the gritty aftermath of massive military operations carried out in several villages where the cartel leader was suspected to be hiding. federal authorities confirming that the notorious drug lord suffered injuries to his face and leg while making a hurried escape but once again, evading capture. rines storming several small towns in the rugged borderlines, known as the golden triangle. shell shocked residents

describing a rein of bullets as their homes came under fire. hundreds of terrified villagers forced to flee and seek shelter in neighboring towns. mexican authorities say they're closing in on one of the world's most wanted men who has been on the lam since breaking out of the maximum security prison and escaping into an elaborate underground tunnel in july. a new clip with audio me merging of the now infamous grainy prison surveillance video, broadcast on a mexican network. it reveals loud hammering noises were being made in guzman's cell before walking toward his private shower and virtually disappearing into thin air. the video's time stamp indicate the prison guards didn't check on el chapo until about 30 minutes after he vanished from his cell. it took ten more minutes for prison authorities to enter the cell and follow the drug lord into the tunnel, arguably giving one of the world's most sought after criminals a big head start to freedom.

the u.s. government is offering a $5 million reward for his capture. mexico is offering an additional 3.8 million. this is the second time el chapo has escaped from a maximum security prison. now back to you guys. >> thank you. keep us in the loop on this. we'll check back later in the show. we'll take a break. now we know with our new poll, after the debate, more democrats say that hillary clinton won than bernie sanders or anybody else. but the results also reveal a little bit of a troubling trend for team hillary. her lead over bernie sanders hasn't really changed that much. what about the trust issue? we'll take a deeper look into the numbers and what they tell us about this moment in time in the race. people don't have to think about

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all right. forget about sitting at the bar saying who won. we have the first round of polling. a debate win did not help

hillary clinton's poll numbers the way you might think. we have maggie haber man and errol louis helping us with this. who did the best job? >> 62, 35, 1, 1, a star for participation. >> what do these numbers tell you, maggie? >> well, the star tells a lot. >> everybody gets an award these days. >> this is a participation trophy. >> clinton and sanders have basically thosen the race. sanders has die-hard supporters who i think are always going to be with him unless he fell apart and disintegrated before your eyes on stage. that isn't what happened. hillary clinton had a great night. bernie sanders did not have a bad night. >> a lot of people thought he had a great night. >> his supporters. i don't think he set himself up to grow particularly. i never thought the horse race was going to change that

substantially. what i did think was going to change is her favorables might creep up. >> let's look at that. we have that number. the opinion of hillary clinton since the debate has ticked up slightly. in august, she had 44% favorable, 53% unfavorable. after the debate, 44% favorable, 53% unfavorable. >> she has to make it clear that she's clearly liked by at least the democratic base. that will take more time. the sanders surge is not going away. it's very well funded. she's got a lot of work to do. but her theory has always been that she was going to be the front-runner, she was going to have more money, name recognition and endorsements than anybody else and kind of grind this out. for this month, she's accomplished the first of the three major things she has to do in october. she had the debate. she did well. she's got the benghazi committee coming up, we'll all be watching that and toward the end, there's the jefferson jackson dinner, an

important speech which gets a lot of attention. if she can pull off all three of those, she's well on her way to a successful launch of this campaign. >> at this moment in time she's looking good. that's all a poll can help you with anyway. also, we have to look at where she has work to do and where she doesn't. put the issues of where these voters fell, among democrats how does she do with sanders? tough to read on your screen. we'll take you through them real fast. foreign policy, that's her big thing. right? look at income inequality as well. you would have thought bernie would have run away with that. no. she's up. what does that tell you withen maggie, in terms of the soberness of the democrats on no matter who is tickling you with how well they articulate it and the passion where the competency lies? >> there's not a whole lot of distinction between these candidates. there are certain specific policy differences especially on things like regulating wall street. that's where you saw among the bigger issues guns, where you

saw hillary clinton try to point to that. basically you don't see the same kind of divisions that you see on the republican side. so i think that is a lot of what's in the numbers. to your point, the foreign policy drop is staggering between clinton and sanders who is right now her nearest competition. >> right. 62% to 9%. >> yes. >> that is stunning. so that is really where you're going to see her, i think, press her case, especially in the next debate. i would say i expect bernie sanders will do what he didn't do the last time, which is prepare. he barely prepared for this debate. i do think he is going to come more prepared next time. >> he didn't prepare in the traditional way. he didn't have mock debates but he was talking to policy experts. >> that's not the same thing as when people are coming at you on stage. you had martin o'malley and hillary clinton tag team him on guns. he seemed caught off guard and never fight totally recovered. >> before we move on to joe biden, i want to talk about the poll. she wins on everything. isn't that striking? there's nothing that bernie sanders beats her on.

>> this is exactly the case she was trying to make. for example, income inequality, she's not going to come out and say we need a nationwide $15 minimum wage. or say we should pay community college tuition for free for every student in the country. what she says is i'm going to give you a program that might actually be able to implement. that practicality, the centrist democratic approach is resonating with voters. that for bernie sanders is bad news. >> there's a very important metric in a poll. it's not which issues matter, it's how much. they call it the amplitude in a poll, how big the curve is. she has a good sense of that now, maggie. i think her people will look at this and say the bigger our lead is over bernie on things, that's where the voters matter more. that will put you in a counterintuitive place. >> yes it means the democrats care less about income inequality than they do on foreign policy. could that be a fair reflection?

>> the logic is right but the last election that turned on foreign policy -- >> is that terror, safety, is that what foreign policy envelopes now? >> it's what's in the news at that moment. that's where you see people reactioning. >> let's look at what happens with joe biden. his numbers have changed after the debate. in august, should joe biden run for president? 53% said yes. now post-debate, 47% say yes. no, back in august 45%, that number has gone up to 49%. maggie, this -- you know, the trend is not right for joe biden getting in. >> he had a real streak of momentum in his favor among donors, among polls as she was having a hard time heading into this first debate. a lost people looked at this first debate, including some of his supporters and say i no longer see the within dough for him. that having been said, if you talk to other people who have had conversations with him, he said that's not what he's basing his decision on. it was never about how she was going to do in the debate or any of these things.

it's about what he thinks. if we're honest, some of it has to be about how she's doing. >> doesn't he have to pay attention to that? >> the case was dependent on her crumbling and him being the right person to follow in obama's path. in november 2007 is when he start to pull away from her. if she delivers a convincing case two days after she testifies before the benghazi committee, the clamor among democrats becomes -- >> she's going into it with 70% of democrats saying they're satisfied with the field. >> yes. you heard what the big brains had to say about it. what do you think? tweet us using #newdaycnn. alisyn can't wait to see them. alisyn with a "y." >> we can see you. >> she's going to sip coffee and

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drug cartel boss el chapo still on the run after authorities almost cornered him in mexico. joining us this morning is anna maria salazar, she's served at the pentagon and state department working on drug enforcement policy. great to have you join us. obviously this is a big deal, getting this new footage of el chapo's cell that has sound. we've seen the video before.

in it we can hear noise, a lot of noise, banging, drilling, yet -- yet -- he was still able to leave without getting any attention of the prison guards. does that speak to you as negligence or conspiracy? anna maria? >> well, that's the big question mark. you would think it would be conspiracy, considering the amount of noise and sound you can hear. we really don't know how high this is going to go up. but what we do know is with this video, there are probably going to be new arrests, new questions being made. there's a lot of anger, because if it is negligence, this is really, really, completely unacceptable. so, yes, this second video does raise a lot of questions. >> other questions that are being raised, there are reports that cell phones, two-way radios were fond at a ranch that the mexican marines believe he was hiding in.

what does it tell you about his ability to continue to evade and have resources sort of awaiting him? >> he has a lot of resources. he also -- this is a part of the country where there's very little -- i mean, there's no presence of the authorities. it would be relatively easy for him to move around. there are major operations taking place right now. they have hundreds of soldiers running around, seeing what they can catch. it's been somewhat confusing, michae michaela, because initially the information came from a u.s. media group that el chapo had almost been caught twice and now that he's injured. begrudgingly the mexican government came out with a statement late friday afternoon, kind of acknowledging that something had happened, even though earlier they said this information was false. there's still a lot of confusion. clearly it does show that they're trying to catch him.

en some's trying to catch him. >> well, someone is the big question. u.s. involvement, there's been some reports of the dea being involved. are you hearing any confirmation of that? >> well, i'm sure that a lot of u.s. agencies are being involved. el chapo guzman was a property for the u.s. government. they really want him. it seems at this point, the amount of pressure the u.s. is exercising over his capture, if he is captured, and i think he will be, he will probably be extradited this time around. if you recall, when he was detained this last time, then he eventually escaped, the president had said that he would not be extradited, he would be kept in mexico to face charges here in mexico. this time around, if he's caught, he is probably going to be heading to the united states really soon. >> it also brings us echos of pedro escobar in the '80s and '90s. i imagine it's a little different now. does the strategy seem

different? what is it like on the ground in terms of the hunt and how it feels? >> well, pablo escobar at the time, when he escaped from his famous jail that he built for himself, it's a little different in the sense that at that time, there was a unithat was dedicated exclusively to trying to catch this guy, pablo escobar. the u.s. government had much more presence on the ground. that's not the case in mexico these days. of course, it may be easier to track el chapo guzman than it was pablo escobar at the time because of technology. the technology changed enormously. there's different ways, much more sophisticated ways to track his communication which did not exist 20 or so years ago. things have changed but there is a lot of pressure for the capture of el chapo guzman. probably something will happen.

the question is when and how they're going to find him. >> especially if he's injured. they say they feel like they could be imminent. ana maria salazar, always great to have your expertise. thanks for joining us on "new day." a brand new edition of real voters, real choices. with a show of hands, will you all, whoever believes in this next statement, i'm angry with the direction of this country and i blame politicians. all of you feel that way? why they feel that way. their answers, next. people don't have to think about

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we have new numbers for you. take a look at the latest cnn/orc poll. 62% of democrats thought clinton won the debate. 35% giving the nod to bernie sanders. they basically closed out this race after that debate. her lead over sanders, solid in 16 points. she leads in every issue category. another nod to clinton, 70% say they are satisfied with the field. you see that correlate with

enthusiasm for a biden run slipping. >> the leader of the al qaeda linked corison group killed by an strar strike. the khorasan group is made up of i anumber of al qaeda jihadis that moved into syria. a manhunt this morning in florida after a deadly shooting at a zombie-themed street festival. video capturing the moment shots rang out at zombicon. one man was killed. five others were injured. ft. myers police appealing to anyone with any information or perhaps more cell phone video to contact them. a new plan out of the white house would require all drones to be registered with the department of transportation. officials say it will make it easier for regulators to trace rogue drones to their pilots.

now, previously only commercial drone users had to register their aircraft with the faa. the patriots and the colts battle it out for the first time since all of that deflategate mess. coy wire has more on this monday morning in our "bleacher report." >> good morning to all of you. after nine months of deflategate, suspensions, appeals, one thing remains the same, the patriots are pretty good. indy had andrew luck back. new england on their first possession of the second half, tom brady to ron gronkowski, 25-yard touchdown. gronk says check the pressure in that. down just six points, the colts let the air out of their own building. they bust their trickery and attempt what social media is calling the worst play in history. they fail miserably.

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as you know, outsiders, nonpoliticians, are dominating the 2016 republican race. so in this latest edition of real voters, real choices, i asked a group of nevada republicans about all of that and why they are so angry with the establishment. >> with a show of hands, will you all, whoever believes in this next statement, i'm angry with the direction of this country and i blame politicians.

all of you feel that way? brenda, is that why you think that this year politicians -- sorry, candidates like donald trump, ben carson, carly fiorina are rising to the fore? >> i think that's the major part. because politicians have what some people think have betrayed the american people, because they say one thing, do another. they say that they support one thing and then they go and vote for something else. we're left out of the process. >> i think track record is important. when we talk about politicians, they're in the game. they've had a chance to take action, to create results and we're running into these stalemates where nothing is happening, we're just blaming each other. >> i don't believe that we are angry but, yes, we are upset with the way things are going. i'm talking about the record. well, there are some politicians and candidates, for example, in the republican party that have

delivered some results but not what we needed. >> it's interesting. i hear more republicans saying they're angry than democrats. do you, as republicans, hold republican politicians more responsible for not getting things accomplished? >> i wouldn't focus just on republicans. i think everyone is part of the game. they've gotten comfortable just pointing fingers, rather than find a solution. >> what sorts of things have you been frustrated by? what sorts of things have politicians promised they were going to do when they get to washington and then not delivered on? >> major thing i think is the obamacare. there are a lot of people that were just so opposed to it but yet it was pushed on the american people. and republicans were elected to go there and at least fight for it. so they have the show votes that, yes, we're fighting against obamacare, yet they'll vote to fund it and that is very, very disappointing, i

think, especially with the republican party. we sent them there for a reason and they're not delivering. >> congress holds the power of the purse. honestly, the rains in congress just aren't using it. we sent them up there, they all promised, we're going to cut the spending. the spending is going to stop. we've got to put an end to these deficits. i certainly haven't seen it. >> dwight? >> obamacare is a big issue. also in talking with our members of congress, both upper and lower house, one thing we've found out is they're unwilling to go again and again and again and get the vetoes. let the vetoes stack up. let's have a stack of vetoes on president's desk that we can point to and say this is why it's not getting through. >> you vote for politicians, they promise the world and something happens when they get to washington. what goes wrong? >> i think they're overwhelmed by the influence, the power that's there, because when we thieve here to go there, their

intentions are the very best. once they're there, something happens. it's very unfortunate. >> dejesus, that brings me to my question tore you. you're someone who does support a more traditional, established politician, jeb bush. he has a record. he is an insider, not an outsider. what do you want to say to the rest of these folks about why you would support an insider established politician? >> you know, he did a good job in florida. as governor of florida. he reduced the debt. he created jobs. he did a great thing, he has an excellent record. i think he can do good. >> jeb bush has done well for his state. he has a record. why not like him? >> there are a lot of governors in this race with good track records when it comes to, you know, getting unemployment down

or, you know, getting their state deficits in order. >> why aren't they resonating this time around? >> to me, i think a lot of it is people are looking for actual policy. you know? jeb bush may have done an okay job in florida but at the end of the day, we're looking for policy changes. >> derrick? >> you mention the common, why aren't they resonating? for many of us when we look at what's going on, there's a culture of blame and lack of focus on solutions. i think many of us are looking for solutions. >> it was enlightening for me to talk to them about why they are so angry. we always hear that. to hear what they are angry about. what i took away is they were particularly animated by obamacare. that's where they felt they had been betrayed. that's what first got them immobilized. >> fascinating how they said they had great intentions here, you can say it for any state,

right, they go to washington and something happens. you kept trying to get them to put their finger on it. it's sort of elusive. >> they think they get drunk with power s. that what it is? >> no. but they -- look, this is not unusual. the voters have been saying this. what's different this year is they have talked their way into choices that you don't usually have in a race. you do not have at this point two candidates at the top of one party that have nothing to do with that party's politics. >> absolutely. they think ben carson and donald trump won't break promises because they're not career politicians. >> how do we know? how do they know? >> they elect them and then they find out. >> we'll have more with these republican voters tomorrow. they'll weigh in on why immigration has become the topic that's so energized their party. also, new national poll on the gop field. that will be tomorrow on "new day." tune in for that. the election matters but there's a lot of news this morning. let's get right to it.

shall we? does anybody blame my brother for the attacks on 9/11? >> when he said we were safe, that's not safe. we lost 3,000 people. >> mr. trump talks about things as though he's still on "the apprentice." my brother responded to a crisis and he did it as you would hope a president would do. >> shut up talking about things you don't know anything about. >> i've already testified about benghazi. i don't know that i have very much to add. >> unless you're on the committee, you have no idea what we've done, why we've done it. >> this is, after all, the eighth investigation. >> we're doomed! we need a revolution. i own one pair of underwear, that's it. some of these billionaires, they have three, four pairs. >> yes, last week i bought my second pair of underwear. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. >> i didn't know we were going in that direction. >> so good. >> that open is great. >> i don't think they sound anything alike. >> what?

>> oh, my gosh, so much more to show you. good morning, welcome to your "new day." first, the war of words between republican campaign rivals donald trump and jeb bush reaching new heights, following trump's suggestion that he would have prevented the 9/11 attacks bush, defending his brother and, again, calling trump's credentials to be commander in chief into question. >> on the democrat side, a much cleaner fight so far. the clear winner coming out of the debate. we have it all for you in our new poll just out this morning. who got a bump? how hungry are the dems for joe? did that change? let's begin our coverage with athena jones, live in dallas. answer these questions for me, athena. >> i don't have all the answers. good morning, chris. i can tell you this feud between donald trump and jeb bush, it seems that both candidates think it benefits them. jeb bush gets to show he has the fire in the belly to fight for this nomination and that he's not low energy as donald trump has been saying for months. trump gets to poke bush and link

him to the past. >> i'm not blaming george bush but i don't want jeb bush to say my brother kept us safe. >> the feud between donald trump and jeb bush is heating up. >> for him it looks as though he's an actor playing a role of the candidate for president. >> reporter: from the sunday shows to social media, with bush defending his brother's handling of the september 11th attacks. >> he united the country, he organized our country and kept us safe. >> reporter: bush said by repeatedly bringing up 9/11 trump shows he's not, quote, a serious person. and that he has grave concerns about trump being in charge of nuclear weapons. >> across the spectrum of foreign policy, mr. trump talks about things as though he's still on "the apprentice." >> reporter: trump said he was just taking issue with jeb saying during the cnn debate that his brother kept america safe. >> the world trade center came down. when he said we were safe, that's not safe. we lost 3,000 people. >> reporter: the biggest battle

began on friday when trump told bloomberg television -- >> when you talk about george bush, say what you want, the world trade center came down during his time. >> hold on. you can't blame george bush for that. >> he was president, okay? >> reporter: bush quickly fired back on twitter, calling the gop front-runner pathetic. >> dealing with killers. >> reporter: now his campaign is mocking trump in a new video, using his own words. >> who do you talk to for military advice right now? >> i watch the shows. >> that's one of the ways he bones up on our national security. >> reporter: and fund-raising, off the dust up, sending this appeal to supporters, arguing that under trump's logic, fdr should be blamed for pearl harbor. this as trump insisted he could have prevented 9/11, because his tough stance on immigration would have kept the hijackers out. >> there's a good chance that those people would not have been in our country. >> reporter: meanwhile, ben carson made an unusual claim, saying president bush could have used oil as leverage against arab states to find osama bin laden sooner.

>> i think they would have known where he was. >> interesting comments from carson. carson is also defending george w. bush saying it's ridiculous to suggest he's responsible for 9/11. huckabee is echoing carson saying the blame lies with islamic jihadists. michaela? >> thank you so much for that, athena. new polls weigh the results from last week's record-breaking cnn democratic debate. democratic voters say hillary clinton was the clear winter, scoring 27 points better than bernie sanders. did the former secretary of state move the needle when it comes to overall polling numbers? senior political xpont brianna keilar joins us live with the numbers. >> interesting stuff here as we wait to see if joe biden perhaps will be on the next debate stage. among democratic and democratic-leaning voters, if joe biden stays out of the race, 45% of those polled say they want clinton to be the nominee. without biden in the race, that goes up 11 points.

bernie sanders, 29% of these voters say they want him to be the nominee. that only goes up four points. the advantage is to hillary clinton. look at hillary clinton's favorability following the debate, 46% right there, now, that is up from 44% in august. 50% unfavorable, that is down from 53%. so the good news here, she's going in the right direction, the good news for her team, of course, the bad news as you see right there, she's still under water, unfavorable, unfavorable. look at the candidates on the issues. the democratic candidates here, hillary clinton has an advantage on a myriad of issues. foreign policy, gun policy, the place where bernie sanders gets closest to her is you see there at the bottom is on income inequality. and how does hillary clinton, the democratic front-runner, stack up against republican front-runners? statistically she's tied with ben carson. he fares better against her than donald trump who clinton bests by five points, now there's a

margin of error, give or take three points here. you mentioned that hillary clinton may not have seen a bump in the polls from the debate but this may be good news for her. after that strong debate performance, you have less democratic voters who say they want joe biden in the race. you actually have more people saying they want him to stay out than get in, chris. >> that is very interesting coming out of the debate, how will that shape the vice president's decisions? what will it mean as we go into the next phase of the campaign? we get answers, we have more s questions, brianna. we have chris coons, supporting a potential joe biden run. thank you for being here. >> thank you, chris. >> i want to talk about the reasonable expectations of what could happen with the benghazi testimony that the former secretary of state will give. let's talk a little joe while i have you here. you immediately stuck a big pin in my balloon saying i am not here to tell you what the vice president is beginning to do.

let's do this two ways. first, if we look at this recent poll, there's a little bit of attrition, slipping on should the vice president run. there's a high index of satisfaction with the field according to the recent poll. 70% say fairly or very satisfied. how does this inform what you think the best thing is for the vice president to do? >> i think the vice president is going to make a decision here that's really based on what's best for his family. he and his family continue to deeply mourn the loss of their talented, very special son, beau biden who was our attorney general who passed away earlier this year. i know if joe biden had been on that debate stage, it will change the numbers in the poll. the one thing he's got as sitting vice president as someone who served in the senate for 36 years is an undeniable record as one of america's strongest voices for the middle class, someone who is very authentic. he is who he is.

you know when he speaks he's speaking from the heart. he has decades of experience in national foreign policy. he has the room to make a decision that's right for him and his family. it is getting late in the fall and i do think we'll get an answer relatively soon. >> what is he saying about where he is in the process and why? >> i think the vice president is deeply torn. he's trying to honor the wishes that beau expressed to him in his last days, trying to respect the fact that this is likely his last opportunity to run for president of the united states and he knows that he's got a remarkable record as vice president. he's been one of the strongest, most effective vice presidents ever. but i also think as a father myself, the depths of grief that i've heard from him and his family are stunning. the balance between what's right for him, what's right for his family, what's right for the country, i no he is weighing on him very hard. >> and we both know that beau wanted him to run for a lot longer period than just at the end of his life. this is something the vice

president was familiar with. you're saying we're going to find out soon but not today. all right. let's talk about something else we don't know today but is coming soon. when hillary clinton gets before that committee, this is going to be the big moment for them to justify their significance now. >> right. >> as someone who understands the foreign policy implications of what happened in benghazi and what we know, do you believe that this is about econvincing new information? >> i don't. i think they've had more than a dozen hearings on benghazi in the house and senate, open hearings, classified hearings. i don't see this select committee on benghazi has done anything other than waste millions of dollars of taxpayer money in continuing to grind over the same ground. when i was on the foreign relations committee during the time she was secretary of state, i, on several occasions, got to engage with then secretary clinton and she is a very capable, smart, grounded leader.

she has an amazing record as senator, as first lady, as secretary of state. i don't think they're going to trip her up or discover any big new surprise. i frankly think this is the worst sort of politically motivated fishing expedition at this point. >> trey gaudy called not agree with you more. he says the reason we don't know certain things is because she has not told us. there's been a blockade of information here. is there merit to that? >> not that i see. in both open and classified sessions i've gone over the details of whatted. although tragic, i don't believe anything has been concealed through a conspiracy led by the secretary. i think the real question ought to be why did the congress not invest more in embassy security? why have we not yet fully addressed some of the issues that were raised in the earliest hearings about benghazi. >> there were reports issued. >> why did we not address those reports?

>> the state department adopted some. a lot of them have been left as open letters. >> exactly. >> what is the end of the day analysis though in terms of why did benghazi happen and what do we do to make sure it happened again? >> i think in no small part we needed to invest more in intelligenceaking sure that we had some tighter restrictions on ambassadors and on station leaders who, although confident in their assessment of the risk, perhaps were overconfident. >> was there a big risk assessment that had been delivered it and was ignored by the state department? >> there's some debate about that, whether it got to secretary clinton or not, whether it was ignored, there's a question that's been addressed which is whether there was an available rapid response force that could have made a difference here. at the end of the day, i think we as a congress, a now republican controlled congress have not invested enough in improving embassy security and in training our diplomats who go

overseas to confront dangerous situations. the answer can't be to have every diplomat who represents us in difficult and dangerous situations locked in a fortified embassy. the brave and capable people of the foreign service go into tough countries to represent us knowing that there are real risks there. we can and should strike that balance more in favor of securing americans overseas. >> let's end where we're started. how often are you getting on the show right now? >> not as often as i'd like. >> do you wait for him to call? >> at this point, i had a couple of opportunities to be with him in person. two weeks ago. at this point, all of us who care deeply for him and want him to run and would support him if he ran, are giving him the space to make this very difficult decision in the next couple of i daz or weeks. >> do you think if joe biden runs he wins? >> i believe he will. i think he brings to the stage a different voice, a unique set of experiences and a capability that americans are crying out

for right now. they want authenticity, want someone who understands their experience and they want someone who has the capability and competence to lead. the meltdown we're seeing over on the republican presidential primary, this latest fight between trump and bush over who's responsible for 9/11, i think creates a big opening. whether it's the vice president or secretary clinton, i think we will end up with a very capable, very strong nominee. >> senator coons, thank you. appreciate it. hillary clinton expected to publicly testify thursday before the benghazi panel. this amid claims that the investigation has become a political ploy to take her down. the head of the committee now telling his colleagues to, quote, shut up. cnn's senior congressional reporter manu raju is live in washington. what's latest. >> reporter: the benghazi flap is only the latest episode that reveals internal tensions dogging congressional republicans as they return this

week to washington. of course, this latest round of sniping started a few weeks ago when kevin mccarthy boasted that the benghazi committee hurt hillary clinton's poll numbers. yet republicans on the committee and party leaders told me they were absolutely furious when a rank and file congressman, richard hannah, made a similar claim on a radio program last week. trey gaudy did not hold back his frustration. >> i've told my own republican colleagues and friends, shut up talking about things that you don't know anything about. and unless you're on the committee, you have no idea what we've done, why we've done it and what new facts we have found. >> now, that's hardly the only issue dividing the gop. congress needs to find a way to raise the debt ceiling by november 3rd. i've been told bipartisan fiscal talks between the white house and hill leaders have not yielded much progress. republican rand paul told me the gop should be prepared to let government funding expire to get

their way on spending and looming over everything is this question, will congressman paul ryan agree to take the speakership? the house gop meets wednesday to continue those conversations. michaela? >> manu, thank you. breaking news for you now. a brazen shooting at a bus station in southern israel. a gunman going on the attack, killing an israeli soldier, wounding at least 11 others. we go live to jerusalem with the latest. orrin? >> reporter: michaela, police say an arab went into the southern bus station, killed a soldier, took that soldier's m-16, went into the bus station and opened fire, sending at least 11 people to the hospital. police say that attacker was shot and killed at the scene. but the story doesn't end there. police say what they had first thought was a second attacker was in fact an innocent bystander but a security guard shot that suspect or rather that innocent bystander before a crowd surrounded him and started beating and kicking him.

that innocent bystander, an african migrant later died at the hospital. this has become a complex situation. but another attack here in jerusalem and the west bank. heightened security measures in and around the old city of jerusalem. >> very destabilized situation there. we'll check back with you later in the show. a northern minnesota community is reeling over the senseless murder of a sheriff's investigator. steven sandburg was shot and killed at a minnesota hospital after a suspect he was guarding grabbed his gun and opened fire. the suspect identified as 50-year-old danny hammond also died after a security guard used a taser to subdue him. officials say his death was due to a medical emergency during the takedown. all right. take a look at your screen. we have breathtaking video. that is a utah mountain biker, riding the red bull rampage when he flirted too close to the edge

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donald trump going after jeb bush, trump claiming his own immigration stance could have prevented 9/11 unlike george w. bush. jeb bush firing back at that claim and ben carson sharing interesting theories on osama bin laden. with us to discuss all of this,

former political director for george w. bush and chairman of the american conservative union and co-founder of cove strategies. great to have both of you with us. matt, interesting to talk to you. you worked for george w. bush. what donald trump is saying about 9/11 is interesting to all of us, particularly you. let me play for you what donald trump has said about 9/11. >> jeb said we were safe with my brother. we were safe. the world trade center just fell down. now, am i trying to blame him? i'm not blaming anybody. i am extremely, extremely tough on illegal immigration. i'm extremely tough on people coming into this country. i believe if i were running things, i doubt those families would have -- i thought those people would have been in the country. >> all right, guys, so much to talk about in just that one statement. matt, let me start with you.

is it fair to go back and relitigate 9/11? >> it's an important historical event but mercy and i ran out of the the white house on 9/11. to blame george w. bush for what happened on that day is going a couple steps too far. what jeb bush said is my brother kept us safe, meaning after september 11th, i think we all kind of woke up from a naive dream that there were these people that wanted to kill us and get us. i think his presidency changed from that moment forward in a way that some people criticize but his number one goal was to keep us safe. it's fair that donald trump was talking about illegal immigration and people who overstay visas. it's totally unfair and off topic to blame george w. bush for 9/11. >> two things. first be we love that you collier wife mercedes merce. i like you got a couple of people in for yourself, schlapp,

on our show. let's talk about the risk, you're an expert in messaging. the risk of donald trump for going after then president bush for 9/11. he says it's not blaming him but he started off blaming him. >> that's right. >> what is the risk, what's the plus/minus in this calculation. >> definitely the risk is that there are the republican voters out there that agree that president george w. bush kept us safe, just like governor jeb bush has mentioned. i mean, he was focused on making sure through the reiation of the department of homeland security that there would not be another terrorist attack on american soil. with that being said, donald trump is big up a valid point on illegal immigration. some of the terrorists of 9/11 overstayed their visas. >> one. >> others had student visas. there was no tracking system of the backgrounds of these individuals that came into this country and ended up committing these atrocities in the u.s.

>> mercedes, i want to challenge you on that. one was here on a student visa, the other on tourist visas and business visas. is it fair for donald trump to say those would go away under his administration? you no longer grant people those? >> no. you have to keep in mind when they are coming from countries like saudi arabia, you have to make sure the become ground checks are there, that immigration services are able to track these individuals that could possibly come with terrorist ties. that is important. that's one of the reasons why we have to keep america safe, ensure that these terrorists don't come into this country. >> okay. george w. bush didn't know to do that because 9/11 hadn't happened yet. >> it's not just immigration. it is several issues. it's the cia and intelligence failure. there's several components you can take a look at. in donald trump's case, he's trying to make a link to illegal

immigration. you can't look back to 9/11 and be like could he have prevented this attack? >> of course you can. that's what donald trump is doing. is that he is looking back and saying i would have stopped it because of how i am on immigration. the question becomes is jeb responding to this the right way? should he respond at all? and -- >> absolutely. >> a lot of people feel there was an opportunity for him here and he didn't meet it. >> merce and i were talking about this. i think jeb bush is full-throated and passionate when people take cheap shots at his family. he's stirred by the fact that this is unfair. i think he really kecks to people. at the cnn debate, the number one applause line throughout that whole debate is when jeb bush said he kept us safe. that strikes a chord with republicans, even republicans who have criticized president bush and don't think that in every way he lived up to his

expectations. i think the american people give him credit for living up to his expectations on this. >> ben carson, he's talking -- he's basically saying this weekend that he would not have gone to war in afghanistan. he would have just made a threat and that would have had them continue over osama bin laden. listen to this. >> i think they would have been extremely concerned if we had declared, and we were serious about it, that we would become petroleum independent. it would have had a major impact on their finances. i think that probably would have trumped any loyalty that they had to people like osama bin laden. >> mercedes, would that have gotten afghanistan or saudi arabia's attention? >> absolutely. well, first of all, dr. ben carson is sounding incredibly naive on foreign policy. i think that statement is irresponsible. the fact is we know that saudi arabia, like george stephanopoulos said, had no loyalty to osama bin laden.

we did the right thing by going after this horrific terrorist and trying to destroy al qaeda. it's been part of our mission. it's our responsibility sense they came after us and attacked us. again, for dr. carson to say that, just shows that he is just not equipped to handle these questions on foreign policy. >> and yet it's working. he is beating hillary in the new poll. >> that's right. >> he's pulled ahead of trump in that matchup. how do you explain that? >> i think it's disjointed. he's totally right that us, that america marshaling its petroleum resources and become energy secure is a great shot at regimes who have kind of held us in a weak spot over our need for oil. it's a great thing. but it's a step too far once again to then all of a sudden assume it would solve all these problems with terrorism. of course, it wouldn't. and i think once again, it's good to talk about these questions about 9/11 and these

questions about how we're facing the war on terror because they're present in our lives and very important. i just think it's really important for the voters to see how the candidates answer these questions. >> yes. >> matt and mercedes schlapp, thanks so much. >> thank you. >> tweet us using #newdaycurrent or post your comment on facebook.com/newday. benghazi committee leaders are fighting their own partisan battles. one member who will be questioning clinton joins us next.

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the first polls are in and an overwhelming number of democrats believe that hillary clinton was the clear winner. her poll numbers only slightly nudging up after the democrat inge debate. look at the latest cnn/orc poll. 62% of democratic viewers throughout clinton won with 35% giving the nod to bernie sanders. the overall numbers are not showing the bump that team clinton was hoping for. the former secretary of state holes a largely unchanged 16-point lead over sanders. the nuclear deal in iran now

officially in effect. relief will not take hold until the iranians curb their nuclear program as required by the agreement. u.s. officials tell cnn actual relief from sanctions for iran is still at least two months away. cyber attackers linked to china's government attempted to hack into the networks of seven u.s. tech and pharmaceutical companies. that is fact, according to private researchers, who say the attempt happened regularly over a solid three weeks. the chinese president vowed in washington last month to crack down on economic espionage. >> baltimore city council today is expected to vote to approve kevin davis as police chief. he took over the helm on an interim basis in july. davis replaced anthony batts who was fired amid a spike in violence and unrest following freddie gray's death in april. crime remained largely at all-time highs over the summer. 25-year-old freddie gray died of a spinal cord injury while in

police custody. blunt talk from the head of the house select committee on benghazi. congressman trey gaudy telling lawmakers on his committee to, quote, shut up. congresswoman susan brooks is a republican from indiana who is a member of the committee on benghazi. she has some real information to share. congresswoman, thanks so much for being on "new day." >> good morning, alisyn. great to be here. >> let's talk about what's going to happen this week. hillary clinton is going to appear again in front of the committee. what do you hope to learn and what exactly do you plan to ask her? >> we hope to really take the facts that we've been gathering from the witnesses that we've already interviewed, from the e-mails that we have received and ask her questions that have not been asked before. and also go into greater detail than past committees were able to do. >> were there things on her e-mail -- sorry to interrupt -- but were there things in her e-mail about benghazi?

>> certainly there were things in her e-mails about benghazi and libya and we want to ask her a lot more questions about the security posture in libya prior to the attacks in 2012. we want to know what she knew about those security concerns in libya. we want to ask her questions that we have found from chris stevens' e-mails which we have just recently received. we've just been getting thousands of his e-mails as late as last week. we want to ask her a lot of questions about what they knew, what different people in her department knew, and ask what she did in response to those concerns. there were hundreds of security concerns raised about the security posture in libya in 2011 and 2012. >> what do her e-mails and chris stevens' e-mails suggest about her role? do they suggest that she willfully denied enhancing security to protect chris stevens. >> the secretary was the head of the agency, the head of the state department. she was responsible as she has

admitted responsibility for what happened. however, what we need to find out is what was the environment within the state department? what were the security requests that were made? how were they decided in what involvement did she have in making those decisions? who did she put in charge? how much information did she receive? what did she know, what did she not know? her e-mails indicate a bit of this but we have further questions about what she actually knew, what she was involved in, what kind of briefings she had, who briefed her, who didn't. what kind of questions did she have? there are a lot of things we have to ask her. we're pleased she's billion of coming before us on thursday willing to answer those questions. >> one of your fellow benghazi committee members, adam shipp says he does not know what the purpose of this committee is any more beyond than just going after hillary clinton. let me play for you what he said. >> how long till the final

report? is it going to be in the middle of 2016. >> a great question, andrea. maybe mr. schiff can answer that for you. >> let me follow up here. >> the reason there's no answer, we done the know what we're looking for. we can't put an end date on it because we don't know what this committee is supposed to look for, apart for damaging hillary clinton it has no reason for existence. >> adam shipp said apart from damaging hillary clinton, it has no reason for existence. congressman kevin mccarthy suggested something similar, congressman richard hannah suggested something similar. and the investigator let go from the committee, bradley podliska suggested something similar. how can americans believe the committee is stu still doing true investigative work and not just going after hillary clinton? >> we have interviewed over 57 witnesses, more than 40 of whom had never been interviewed by congressional committees before.

30 witnesses had never been interviewed by anybody before. including seven who were at the scene of the attack that had never been interviewed by anybody before. these are new facts. and that is what this committee has always been about. a very fact centric investigation. a serious investigation. and we've also gotten over 57,000 new e-mails. the committees that had investigated this before and while i applaud their work, they did it in a much shorter time frame. they didn't have the e-mails that we have. none of the committees had chris stevens e-mails. chris stevens' e-mails share with us what his concerns were, what his requests were, what was going on on the ground. they didn't have that kind of information. this is the kind of information we had. hillary clinton, the secretary is one fact witness. we have more witnesses to go after thursday. this investigation does not end with thursday. there are other leaders of other

agencies we need to interview. >> yes. >> we've been at this a long time. we're not going to be done, alisyn. >> i want to ask you on that very point, hillary clinton says in fact you have foregone interviewing witnesses from the intelligence community as well as from the security community in lieu of going after her and looking at her e-mails. do you plan to call other leaders from intelligence and security about what went wrong? >> we absolutely do plan on calling more witnesses. and we have interviewed some witnesses from other agencies. and so i assume that she's been informed by the other staff, the democrat staff of the committee as to who we've interviewed. we have interviewed other witnesses from other agencies. we're not finished. we have continued to receive e-mails and communications from the other agencies. of course we're going to shall interviewing the other agencies. this investigation is not about the secretary. it is good gathering aabout gat

that we can obtain to provide a comprehensive look for the families, the colleagues we lost in benghazi and state department employees and other cia and defense department employees to ensure this does not happen again. >> yes. >> this was a tragic incident where we lost an ambassador. and we need to gather all of the facts. >> yes. >> we have been doing that. it's taken us far too long. fight frankly it's taken the state department far too long to get us the information. in fact, they still haven't given us everything we asked for. it's been frustrating. it's frustrating when our colleagues speak about it. they done the know what we've been doing, what the results have been. we are trying very hard to do a very fact-based comprehensive investigation. we will continue after thursday and then we'll issue a final report. >> congresswoman, susan brooks, thanks for all the information. we'll be watching closely what happens on thursday. let's get over to michaela. a heartbreaking story. a chicago father is charged in

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a chicago father facing child endangerment charges after his 6-year-old son shot and killed his 3-year-old brother. police say michael santiago left a gun in the spot where the kids could find it it. could he be held liable for his little boy's death? this story is -- >> gut wrenching. >> horrifying. there are no winners. everyone is a loser in this essential aereo. we have to talk about this. we're hearing differently than an accidental pool death or something like that. that the father is being held responsible for this. >> yes. >> explain to us what the liability is here given that he is not the one that pulled the trigger? >> here's what happens, michaela. first looking globally and specifically at this case. you have 27 states and the district of columbia that have child access prevention laws.

what that means is if you have a firearm, secure it. if you don't, you'll be criminally held responsible. prosecutors don't like to do it's a double wampy. >> you're grieving the loss of a child and on top of it -- >> now you're getting prosecuted for it. this prosecutor said you have to draw the line. the law pretty much states because he's being charged with child endangerment, not under the statute that less child access prevention. the critical legal question is, did you create, knowingly create, a condition that could result in harm to your child? >> this is where we come back to the information that we know. the father told authorities that he had purchased the gun illegally off the street for protection. because he had snitched on a former gang member at trial. so that he had this gun for protection. we also know the prosecutor told

the "chicago tribune" that he had showed the little boy where the gun was. and that it was loaded. >> that's problematic. we could get into debate of whether someone should have a gun, whether they should own it for fear of gang retaliation. second amendment, okay. should you have that gun in a place which would allow a child who's 6 years old to access it and tell that child where it is, have it on top of the refrigerato refrigerator. >> wrapped in pajamas. >> and you have a 3-year-old who's there. >> they were playing cops and robbers apparently. >> children play every day. you have to -- as we said, it's gutwrenching. you don't want to see a person be held doubly accountable. >> in this case, not at the 60,000-foot level, in this case could that be a viable defense for this man, that he was using it as protection?

>> i don't think so. here's why. as a defense attorney i wouldn't want to go that route. yes, you're using it as protection but what does it have to do with the way in which you're storing it. you have a firearm, you can do it in such a way as to not endanger your 6-year-old, 3-year-old an cause a death here. that's the critical question and the problem. >> dad was at work, mom was running an errand. grandpa was taking care of them at the time. >> hears a shot, runs downstairs. >> could this be changed to a murder charge? >> i don't see that. with murder you're saying that the father actually aided, abetted. >> he didn't. he didn't intend for his child to be killed. >> not at all. what you're looking at again, it comes back to focusing on the critical question. did you knowingly create a condition that could lead to something like this happening? if the answer is yes, then there's accountability. >> okay. speaking of accountability, follow the trail then. so the people that he got the

gun from illegally on the street? cowl they be held liable, too? >> certainly prosecutors could take this to a logical conclusion. they often do. once they find a gun, they trace it. where did it come from? how did you get it? was it legal, illegal? where did it emanate from? were there other deaths involved in the use of this gun, they get the serial number. they're concerned here about what the father did and it has broader implications. you want to deter others. if you're going to deter others, i don't you need to have standards where they hold people accountable so they know, secure that weapon, don't allow a child to gain access such that a tragedy like this, michaela, can happen. >> this will certainly fuel the current debate. >> it didn't have to happen. this is one of the issues that can unite both sides in gun debate. you want a gun, fine, but store it properly. it's such a big factor in so

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>> we're boomed! we need a revolution! millions of people on the streets, and we have to do something. we have to do it now. i'm the only candidate up here who is not a billionaire. i don't have a super pac. i don't even have a backpack. i carry my stuff around loose in my arms, like a professor between classes. i own one pair of underwear. that's it. >> it gets more funny. listen to senator sanders with his own response to what larry david did about him on "saturday night live." they said he doesn't have a sense of humor. they're wrong. >> yes, last week, i bought my second pair of underwear. that's a joke. please don't write it down. that was a joke. i have an ample supply of underwear. >> can we do a split screen?

the two -- they were torn -- i mean -- >> thank you. i can't tell which is which. >> you know what makes me so happy? i've been like, there's a hundred something days until the election. we have more larry david as bernie sanders. it's good. >> he laughs at himself, keeps going. >> good for him. >> boy, that was funny. i've been waiting for that for a long time. >> that is great. >> new poll numbers -- don't take my tease again. if i don't go right away, she's like, more for me. democrats have a good message for hillary clinton. is it good enough? what does it say about joe biden in our new poll? what happened in this debate? how did it change the race? we have answers, ahead. >> i could have done that better. we like that. not just because we're doers. because we're changing. big things. small things.

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do you blame george w. bush for 9/11? >> my brother responded to a crisis, and he did it as you would hope a president would do. yo >> you're scheduled to testimony before the benghazi committee.

>> i don't know that i have much to add. this is, after all, the eighth investigation. >> unless you're on the committee, you have no idea what new facts we have found. >> closing in on the drug kingpin, guzman. >> he was injured was authorities were closing in. >> a lot of people in mexico have a financial stake in el chapo being on the run. >> lamar odom still in the icu. >> the kardashians are known for talking to the media. i want the true story to come out. >> this is "new day," with chris cuomo, alison camerota and michaela pereira. >> i said that before. >> not me. >> you'd say, you stabbed my face. it's in the face. this is what we discuss on the show. welcome to your new day. it is monday, october 19th. 8:00 in the east. the results are in. we now have a new poll showing how democrats and registered voters responded to the big debate.

here it is. nearly 2/3 of democratic viewers believe hilalary clinton won. check out this new cnn/orc poll. clinton was judged 27 points over bernie sanders. she holds a 16 point lead, and leads in every issue. joe biden still third with 18%. there's a story line there. >> more numbers. 70% of the democratic voters say they are satisfied with their choices. 30% say they are not very satisfied y eied or not satisfi all. look at the biden factor. if the vice president decides not to run, clinton benefits, extending her lead over sanders to 23 points. we're also seeing signs that voters may be growing weary of waiting for the vice president to decide. a slight majority of democrats believe he should not enter the race. issues with trustworthiness have plagued clinton's campaign.

has she turned the tide on that? cnn's senior political correspondent brianna keilar is live in washington with those numbers. what are you seeing? >> good morning. 46% of all those polled, representing all americans v a favorable view of hillary clinton. that's up two points since august. 50% have an unfavorable point of view about her. that is down 3% since august. the glass half full here is that she's heading in the right direction f you're looking at this from her campaign's perspective, but the glass half empty is that she's still underwater on her favorable/unfavorable. when you look at democratic leaning voters and democratic voters, you ask them, which candidate do you trust on the issues? on a myriad of issues. look at this. hillary clinton performing better than bernie sanders. he's closest to her on income inequality. check out on foreign policy. 62% say that this is an issue

that she would do the best on. foreign policy, a key issue that republicans are going to bring up in a general election. this is also the week where hillary clinton will be talking about foreign policy, as she goes into this benghazi committee testimony. then overall, match her up against the republican front runners. this is really interesting. she is statistically tied with ben carson when you look at a national contest. donald trump though, who is the republican front runner, she bests him by five points. the margin of error, three, plus or minus. you see there she's beating him in this poll. a competitive general election matchup. certainly, hillary clinton does not have this in the bag. >> thank you. donald trump, meanwhile, says he's not blaming president george w. bush for 9/11, but says if he were in the white house, the attacks never would have happened. his remarks drawing a sharp

response from jeb bush, who called him an actor playing the role of candidate. my goodness. watching this from the sidelines is something. >> good morning. both candidates seem to believe this feud is helping them. jeb bush gets to show donors and supporters he has the fire in the belly to fight for this nomination and that he's not low energy, as trump has been saying for months. trump gets to poke jeb bush, which seems to be one of his favorite past times, and links bush to the past. >> i'm not blaming george bush, but i don't want jeb bush to say, my brother kept us safe. >> reporter: the freud between donald trump and jeb bush is heating up. >> for him, it looks as though he's an actor playing the role of a candidate for president. >> reporter: from the sunday shows to social media. with bush defending his brother's handling of the september 11th attacks. >> he united the country,

organized our country and kept us safe. >> reporter: bush said by bringing up 9/11, trump shows he's not, quote, a serious person, that he has grave concerns about trump being in charge of nuclear weapons. >> across the spectrum of foreign policy, mr. trump talks about things as though he's still on "the apprentice." >> reporter: trump said he was taking issue with jeb saying that his brother kept america safe. >> the world trade center came down. when he said we were safe, it wasn't safe. we lost 3,000 people. >> reporter: the latest battle began friday, when trump said -- >> when you talk about george bush, say what you want, but the world trade center came down during his jeb's campaign is mocking trump. >> who do you talk to for military advice for you?

>> i watch shows. >> that's one of the ways he bones up on our national security. >> reporter: and fundraising, sending this appeal to supporters, arguing that under trump's logic, fdr should be blamed for pearl harbor. this as trump assisting he could have prevented 9/11 because his tough stance on immigration would be kept the hijackers out. >> there's a good chance those people would not have been in our country. >> reporter: ben carson said president bush could have used oil as leverage against arab states to find osama bin laden sooner. >> i think they would have known where he was. >> ben carson is also defending george w. bush, saying it's ridiculous to suggest he's responsible for 9/11. huckabee said the blame lies with islamic jihadists. >> thank you for breaking that down. let's sir ccircle back to the c poll numbers and what they

reveal about the democrats and hillary clinton. let's discuss that with the senat senator. >> it's great to be with you. i love the number, i have to tell you. >> let's look at them. these are the first numbers since the debate. they're telling. let's look where hilalary clintn is now. in september, she had 42% of democrats choice. after the debate, 45%. bernie sanders went from 24% to 49 29%. is this the bump you were expecting in? >> i think this is a great bump, frankly. what it says to me is people understand when you break down all of the issues you talked about, that they understand this is the candidate who can go the distance or everything from foreign relations to the economy to income inequality, all of the issues. what i love is that the person that is the best qualified, most experienced, has all of the right experience to walk in on

day one, is a woman. how great is that? >> that is great for you. however -- >> it's great for everybody, chris. >> here's why i would say -- i'm saying that. because you have the combination of bernie sanders, big number, and the appetite for joe biden which, in this poll, is 18%. you wind up having about 45 plus percent of your party saying, we wish it was somebody else. do you believe the secretary has work to do in terms of trying to knock down that unfavorable she has that people are now calling built-in? >> i think, first of all, as we move along, that will change. she's taken all tin cohe incomi from -- let's face it -- republicans, everybody so far, and she has done well. she's going to do well this week with the benghazi hearing, once more time, focusing on that. hopefully, we put it behind us

as a country in terms of a political issue. i believe as people see what she's all about -- i've known her for 30 years. i've known her as a person out there trying to protect children, working with the children's defense fund. i was in beijing, china, when she gave that incredible speech, went into human rights. i served with her. we came into the senate together in 2000. i've seen what she's all about. the more people are hearing about her wanting to lower the cost of college, find more jobs, focus on mental health, which i'm passionate about, and issue that is will grow the economy i think she's going to be fine and do great. >> let's talk about thursday when she goes in front of the benghazi committee. we had susan brooks on, and she asked the question, that hillary clinton herself has asked and other democrats have asked, what more is there to learn? she said they now have new information that they want to

ask secretary clinton about. listen to what she told us on "new day." >> we've gotten over 50,000 new e-mails. the committees who investigated this before, while i applaud their work, they did it in a shorter time frame and didn't have the e-mails we had. none of the committees had chris stevens' e-mails. it shares what his concerns were, what his requests were. the secretary is just one fact witness. we have more witnesses to go after thursday. >> number one, it doesn't sound like it's going away on thursday. >> right. >> number two, they have chris stevens' e-mails. doesn't that sound like new information that needs to be plumed? >> here's what i would say, we have had, i think, eight different committees dealing with this. we know from two republican members of the house, as well as one staff member, former staff member now, this is mainly focused on bringing downhill

clinton's poll numbers. they'll keep churning. i wish they were working on making sure we have enough embassy security in terms of the budget. right now, instead of developing a bipartisan budget, which is what we're supposed to be doing now, negotiating a budget that doesn't cut embassy security and put the state department in a position to pick which embassy to keep safe, which is what they were doing because they didn't are the resources at the time. i wish they would take one less committee, hearing, on the political 350pieces of benghazid focus on a budget that makes sense. >> the ball is in the secretary's court now. she goes, testifies. if there is satisfaction, seems like he's giving back everything they're asking on, then she'll be able to help herself the most in this situation. we'll have to see what she says, and then we'll go after it again after the testimony. >> right. >> let me ask about something else. mental health. you have a bill. discuss the bill, but this way, in the context of, you're

getting more attention to mental health, but a lot of people who advocate in the area are saying it's not the right kind. the mentally ill are being blamed for this gun violence. what is your bill? how do you see the issue? >> the great news is we have actually moved beyond the bill to something that's going to be announced hopefully today that will begin to take effect on increasing security mental health services. one out of four people in our country will have a mental illness. any -- during a year. the majority of them, you know, are struggling with a brain disease. they're not going to be out committing violence. if anything, somebody will be committing violence against them. we need to do something about community mental health, no matter what. we also know when we see these gun violence issues, there is a tie in terms of lack of mental health services and what's been happening. the good news is this, for the

first time since president kennedy actually signed a bill over 50 years ago, the community mental health act, we have a federal strategy that'll be announced today. 24 states are going to be receiving dollars to assess and plan how they bring their mental health services up. 24 hour emergency psychiatric services for the first time. law enforcement is desperate to have this, as well as families and individuals. the good news is they're assessing and going to be ready for new quality standards that will be put in place. the challenge is that we have provided funding for only an eight-state demonstration project. now, if congress really wants to do something about mental health, they'll fund the excellence and mental health act, that will, in fact, do this nationwide. because no matter what, we need to make sure health care above the neck is treated the same as below the neck, we have

comprehensive services. >> best of luck with that. we'll be looking for the announcement later. thank you for beingen on "new day." >> escalation on the violence in israel. a gunman opening fire, killing an israeli soldier and wounding others. the attacker armed with a knife was shot and killed. all this as joint chief's chairman makes his first trip to israel. pledges cooperation during a meeting with benjamin netanyahu. secretary kerry is expected to meet leaders in the coming days. could mexican authorities will closing in on el chapo? it seems the drug kingpin got injured on his face during a raid last week. a pilot suspected of helping the fugitive is under arrest. will he crack and help authorities? we have rafael romo live with the latest. what do we know about the

injuries to the kingpin and what they think will happen next? >> the question is, has joaquin guzman will hiding in mexico all along and authorities didn't know it? that appears to be the case, based on the massive operation launched in the area by mexican marines in an effort to catch one of the most wanted criminals in both mexico and the united states. >> reporter: new video emerging from the man hunt for joaquin el chapo guzman. vehicles riddled with bullet holes. the aftermath of military operations carried out in several small villages where the elusive cartel leader was suspected to be hiding. federal authorities confirming that the notorious drug lord suffered injuries to his face and leg while making a hurried escape but, once again, evading capture. marines stormed several small towns, known as the golden

triangle. shell-shocked residents describing a rain of bullets, as their homes came under fire. hundreds of terrified villagers forced to flee to neighboring towns. tho authorities say they're closing in on the man who escaped from prison through an underground tunnel in july. the surveillance video broadcasted now on the mexican network. it reveals loud hammering noises were made in guzman's cell before walking to his shower and virtually disappearing in thin air. the prison guards didn't check on el chap po until 30 minutes after he vanished from his cell. it took ten more minutes for authorities to follow the drug lord into the tunnel.

one of the most sought-after criminals, a head start to freedom. >> while the drug lord got a taste of freedom. those suspected of helping him escape are in custody this morning. a pilot accused of playing a role in his escape. an additional 34 people have been arrested in connection with the july escape. >> incredible. thank you for that background. there was a series of bizarre events on a flight that led to the death of a 24-year-old man. he was agitated on the flight, becoming violent, even biting a passenger. the pilot diverted the flight and other passengers subdued the man. by the time the flight landed, he was unconscious and a doctor on board checked him out and he was pronounced dead. former nba star lamar odom continues to make slow progress after waking up from a coma. he was found unconscious in a

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all right. we have new poll numbers out this morning. they show one candidate and one candidate only right now ahead of hillary clinton in the white house race. bernie sanders. no. joe biden. no. donald trump. no, no, no. ben carson. narrow lead in our new cnn-orc poll. fairing better than donald trump, which means he will now be the target of attacks. no. let's bring in ben ferguson, co former white house political director and donald trump t supporter. >> good morning. >> what do you see in this perceived carson strength? what does he have that trump does not? >> a couple points. >> these polls are going to go up and down. we will see more, and we will see other things, i think.

having this since october of other year, we have plenty of time. >> don't yuck our yum. don't say the polls aren't fascinating this morning, because they are. >> they are in their own special way. >> they're a snapshot. we get that. ben, do you think that they are as easily dismissed, that ben carson is beating hillary at this point, as jeffrey does? >> i look at it differently. there's two things to take away from this. one, ben carson is able to pull a wave of support from other candidates, where maybe their supporters are not obsessed with their guy as much as maybe even some of the ben carson supporters early on were, and donald trump supporters. the other part is this, donald trump supporters are question gn -- fanatics. that's what you want for a base. he has a large base. but it seems he has peaked and it's going to be hard for him to be able to pull away other supporters from the other candidates left in the field. if you're on trump's campaign

right now, you have to start looking at these polls and saying, okay, what do we need to do to reach out to rubio supporters, huckabee supporters, santorum supporters, other people in the field? they may have plateaus and it can put them in a bad situation going to new hampshire and iowa. >> how is the answer to ben's question, let's go back to 9/11 and suggest that president bush did not keep us safe? >> i find this an amazing discussion. let me read you one sentence here from donald reagan in the iran-contra scandal. i am the one ultimately accountable to the person people. no president should ever be protected from the truth. i see that jeb bush is saying that, well, would you blame roosevelt for pearl harbor? a joint congressional committee in 1946 did exactly that. i'm not really sure, with your president, whatever happens on your watch, you are responsible for. whether your name is bush, clinton or secretary of state hillary clinton in benghazi.

you are responsible. >> the difference there is, you just used the word, scandal. it was a scandal while he was the president. that is completely different than a terrorist attack on 9/11. you know there's a difference between the two. >> no, no. ben -- >> it's a head scratcher here. >> it's a -- >> wait a minute. hold on a second. when you have a scandal and you are the president, that is completely different than a terrorist attack like 9/11. it should be acknowledged that those are different circumstances. let's not use -- >> reagan said -- >> go ahead, jeffrey. >> in the words of john f. kennedy after the bay of pigs, i am the responsible officer of the government. >> it was a decision made by the president. >> clinton was the responsible officer of the government for benghazi. >> totally agree. >> we're talking about 9/11. >> jeffrey, you hold george w. bush responsible, as donald trump does, for 9/11? >> i like president bush.

i think he did a great job in the aftermath of 9/11. truly, i think he was fabulous. the fact of the matter is, he was president when this happened. there's nothing remarkable about saying that. >> did he keep us safe? >> afterwards, he did. >> that's the assertion that jeb bush makes. that's what got the applause line at the debate. it seems this is trump's opportunity or his tactic to defeat that premise. >> there's one other thing, chris, here, that i should point out. this is what i call the reagan-bush divide. within the republican party, president reagan departed office with a 68% approval rating according to the "new york times"/cbs poll. bush left with a 22% approval rating. there is a schism here, and i think donald trump has decided he's going to identify with the reagan side rather than the bush side. >> ben, what do you think about -- how do you think it helps trump to bring this up? >> i think he has a personal war with jeb bush.

any time he has a chance to attack him, he's going to do it. these are the types of attacks that politically, to me, do not make sense. i think it's what allows him to peak in the numbers and not bring in new people. when you imply that george bush somehow, it's his responsibility to stop 9/11, something that had been years in the planning before he thought about running for the white house, and to say that, somehow, that was his fought. >> which was president clinton's responsibility. >> i agree. see, that's where you and i would agree. if bill clinton was president at the time, and the day before 9/11, he's talking about, i could have gotten osama bin laden but didn't because innocent people would have been killed and we're better than that, that's a fair criticism. if donald trump was president on 9/11, i wouldn't criticizing him for somehow implying that it's his fault 9/11 happened. these are the conversations from the trump campaign and donald trump that i think are his biggest liability. most people remember 9/11 happened, that was done on their

time, on their doing and in an insane way that no one could be conceptionaliz conceptionalized. using planes as missions. then to say that george bush is responsible. it's irresponsible to say that and rewriting history. >> he was president when it happened. when you were president, to quote jfk after the bay of pigs, you are the responsible official of the government. >> you should understand, that's a political decision by the president to go in and do something. 9/11 was not a decision of the president of the united states of america. >> look -- >> here's one thing for sure, for the gop to win this election, they need -- >> -- 2001 and september 11th. it was a political rendition. >> for you to win this race, you need the jeffs and bens on the same page. you'll have to figure out which way this issue is -- >> sentence by sentence. >> well, thank you very much. we didn't get to talk about

benghazi. we'll have to wait for the testimony and bring you both back in and see how much con garagelation jsh congratulations you have for the former secretary of state. >> tomorrow morning, we will test trump's latest statements and bring you national poll numbers and his take on them from the gop field. please, feel free to tune in. lamar odom is taking small but critical steps to recovery after he was found unconscious inside a nevada brothel. can he make a full recovery? we'll talk to his mentor and former college coach ahead.

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jeb bush says he has concerns about trump being commander in chief. one of the most braise anne tactack -- brazen attacks against palestinians. an israeli soldier was killed by a gunman and others were wounded. the attacker was shot and killed. authorities could be closing in on el chapo. he's said to be hurt after eluding authorities last week. a pilot suspected of helping him has been arrested. the mets on the strength of syndergaard's pitcher and the timely hit, they beat the cubs, 4-1, for a lead in the national championship series. for more, visit new day cnn.com. tracy morgan taking a return to "saturday night live" this weekend, coming after a tough year for the "30 rock" star, recovering after

recovering from a near death car crash. sanjay gupta has more on morgan's resiliency. >> reporter: on "30 rock," morgan played an over the top version of himself, making us laugh. the roll earned him an emmy nomination and fans. he rose to fame in the '90s on "saturday night live." >> that bird is a liar. >> reporter: the laughter masking personal pain. troubled upbringing, his father's death to aids, his best friend's murder, life threatening battle with diabetes. >> what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. >> reporter: everything changed. >> tracy morgan was involved in a very serious auto accident. >> reporter: the crash left him in a coma for weeks. morgan's recovery meant he had to miss snl's 40th anniversary special. >> i wish my friend tracy morgan was here. >> a few months later, he was

ready to talk on the "today" show. >> i love comedy. i wonder how i'll be funny again. >> reporter: in the first images of morgan after the accident, a familiar, upbeat smile. his doctor saying he was nothing short of a miracle. in returning to "snl," nothing short of an emotional homecoming. >> thank you so much. >> wow. great to see him back. >> it was incredible. really powerful. i loved that he was joking about his own recovery right at the outset. so good. >> typical snl fashion. turned it into material for him. >> sight for sore eyes. >> the more he does, the better he'll get. we'll be watching. another story we're watching for you. he pushed lamar odom to be the best he could be. his mentor and former coach jim harrick is speaking out to "new day." what was going through his head when he learned his prodigy, one of the best in basketball, suffered this injury? you'll want to see it. hi i'm heather cox

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two-time nba champion lamar odom is said to be improving after being in a coma for days. he was found unconscious at a nevada brothel last week. there are reports that he's now able to speak and making some slow but steady progress. joining us now is lamar odom's mentor and former college coach, jim harrick. he joins us from los angeles this morning. coach, thanks for joining us. first of all, i can imagine that this news must have hit you really hard when you found out the state your friend and mentee was in? >> well, they're like sons to you, michaela. it really was difficult. we're very close, and you never want to lose a loved one like that. we've been on pins and needles for days now, but like you said, we've got a little bit of progress and a little bit -- the word i've used before is hopeful. we're a little more hopeful now. >> those are the kinds of words you want to be hearing at this

stage in the game. i know you've been in touch with khloe. he's communicating with hand gestures and speaking, is what we're hearing. >> i don't know that he's up and texting. i'm in contact with khloe almost every day. he spoke a few words. she reached down and said, you know i love you. he said, yeah, i know, then went back to sleep. yesterday, he took his breathing tube out himself, and if he needs a mask, he'll wear it. but he's breathing on his own, and that's another progress. he did speak to her and said, good morning. then he went back to sleep. but, slowly, everything the last two days have been progress. we're hopeful. >> that's huge. so many people have been praying for his recovery. we've seen publicly, and we know

privately, there's been a lot of sentiments in that regard. you know khloe. i know you're aware there's a lot oflati speculation about th relationship. given her last name, it adds tabloidness to the whole thing. there's speculation about why she's there. what light can you shed on this relationship for us? >> you know, i did not know khloe. i went to the wedding and met her there. then i went on a road trip with the lakers one time. lamar took me on the road. we went out and had dinner. khloe and i, lamar, my assistant coach, and i just come to fall in love with her. she's a sweet, loving, lovely young girl, and they had a great relationship. i think she's a rock. i think she's the best thing that ever happened to lamar odom. i hope he wakes up and realizes that i want to go over there and

smash him and let him know that that's a great relationship. we need to get on the right path again. he's a great young guy. michaela, he lost his mother when he was 12 and his father wasn't arnoound. >> he's had his share of demons. >> you don't know what those thing ds do to you. i've always said, in life, there's turning points in your life, in your career and everything. this is a turning point for lamar. i think between khloe, myself and his support system, we can get his on track. >> that'd be great. >> i've heard, like you said, the prayers from everybody. i think he might be one of the most popular guys to ever play in the nba. >> i agree. i want to ask, did you have concerns about a guy -- you talk about the tremendous loss this young man experienced, between losing his grandmother and losing his own infant son, all

the tragedy in his life. and the fragility of it. did you have concerns about him getting involved in a reality show, further putting him into the scrutiny, aside from, you know, the scrutiny you'd have as a laker? he never could escape the cameras. were you concerned about that? >> well, you know, when he called me and said he was getting married, i was concerned about that because i know it was a short relationship. but, you know, he's a young man. he's not a boy. he's a man. >> 35 years old. >> he's in his 30s. he's accountable for his actions and responsible. i felt he knew what he was doing. i think he could handle it, between he and khloe. i know most of the things, probably, are his fault, but i think he could have handled that maybe a little bit better. you know, he always called me and said, you know, it's crazy, the craziness of it all. i really don't know what that means. >> coach harrick, we appreciate

you joining us today, and i'm really glad to hear the hope in your voice and to see the smile on your face, too. i know how much this young man means to you and he's lucky to have you by his side in his recovery, which we hope will be continuing to progress. thanks for joining us on "new day" today. >> thank you very much for having me. >> our pleasure. there's a new movie about the scandal that rocked cbs news. the stars, redford and cate blanchett, will be here next to talk about what truth means to them. attention americans eligible for medicare.

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it was a scandal that rocked a powerhouse of broadcasting and forever scarred a journalism giant. 2004 "60 minutes" story called the national guard service of george w bush into question. it was based on documents. the scandal around dan rather is now the focus of a new film, "truth." i got to sit down with the stars, robert redford and cate blanchett, to discuss the film. i understand the writer and director was asked how he got two oscar winners to do his first-time directing film. he said he was incredibly lucky, clearly. >> certainly wasn't the pay, was snit. >> certainly wasn't. >> it was the material. i don't know about you, but i knew about the "60 minutes" piece, but i didn't know about the personal and professional behind the scenes. it was a revelation for me. >> 2004 isn't a terribly long time ago.

controversial then and still now. did that give you any hesitation, or did you say, no, i want to jump in with both feet? >> no hesitation. it was a great story. it was a great story and a great script. i remember something that happened, open and shut. it happened and went away real fast. didn't seem to be any play out. it rose up and went away. that's all i remember. now, i think, what the script does, what the film does, is open that up to take a hard look at what the real story was. i think the real story got shut down. >> but it's very easy to forget that we're d that where dan and mary found themselves was in new territory. it was journalist who is had had long and celebrated careers and went through a process of due diligence. all of that world was completely new. we take it for granted now. >> we do take it for granted. it's interesting.

when people see this film, because one know there are people who have their own opinions about what really went on with this story, right? do either of you feel differently than you did going into it, now that you've done your research for the film? >> when i entered the project, i called dan rather and said, is there anything you want to tell me? he said, yeah, bob, it was about loyalty. my loyalty to mary. it was an unbroken loyalty. and hers to me, and also our joint loyalty to our bosses. that part got broken. i think that's what this story is really about. going through the ups and downs of what they went through, what held them together was loyalty. that made an impression on me. >> what makes the film compelling is it asks controversial and important questions about the difference of the legal profession, the terrain they walk, and the difference of that profession

and the journalism profession. the journalist's profession is to ask the questions. >> our hope is that the film provokes thought and conversation that never happened at that time because it was an open and shut thing. therefore, now, it's time in the distance, between then and now, allows you to have some perfective that you couldn't have had at the time. >> some of the criticism surrounded the fact that this account is from mary mapes version of how it played out. you brought so much of her own story into this. >> i don't see my job as an actor to ask an audience to like someone. you hope to humanize someone and present mary. "60 minutes," everyone works under the tick-tock of the clock. maybe they were guilty of being pressured by time.

what journalist isn't? >> she wrote the book from a hurt place. she was hurt. she was hurt because of how her profession was treat and had how she was treated within the profession. so she wrote from that point of view. i think cate's performance embodies that journey that she went through. including hurt, but underneath that, passion, drive, wanting to do the right thing, wanting to be a really good reporter. >> i know you both met with each of them, to talk about this and to prepare for your roles. that's a challenge, too, as an actor, when it's in recent memory. when these people are alive and watching the film. >> there's a sense of responsibility. >> sure. >> because those -- the wound is still raw. it's completely shaped and altered not only their legacies as journalists but also their day to day lives and perspectives. yet, it's not a bio pic. it's not about them. it's not about mary map ev arkm.

you see them in a state of crisis. they're both compelling, vital, hilarious people, but it's how do you shoehorn all of that life force into a very short, intense space of time? . i found that the challenge. >> well, congratulations. the film is terrific. >> thank you. >> nice to be with you. >> real delight. >> "truth" is in theaters now. check it out. your good stuff is coming up next. big idaho potato truck. our truck? it's touring across america telling people about idaho potatoes. farmer: let's go boy. again this year the big idaho potato truck is traveling the country spreading the word about heart healthy idaho potatoes and making donations to local charities. excuse me miss, have you seen our truck? you just missed it. ahhh! aw man are you kiddin' me?

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not only did vernon disarm the suspect, even with the banged up hand, because he was stabbed, he promises to keep going with his chess class. it requires one arm. the kid was out on kitty porn charges. >> good for that man. good morning, carol. >> have a great day. "newsroom" starts now. good northemorning. i'm carol costello. bernie sanders may have gotten the buzz after the last democratic debate, but he's the unheralded champion of the showdown. hillary clinton won hands down, according to a new cnn-orc poll, the first since the debate. more than 60% of