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instill extreme fear and rage, and in the death of this migrant, this terror attack achieved its goal, another innocent victim. phil black, cnn, jerusalem. >> that's it for me. thanks for watching. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" tonight, donald trump still attacking president bush over 9/11 and declaring that if the election were held today, he'd win big. plus, trump and ben carson waiting for congress to approve secret service protection as the threats against carson are said to be growing. our special report on that. and claims that the cia of homeland security have been hacked. now the alleged hacker says he's about to leak their information, speaking to cnn. let's go "outfront." good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, we begin
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with donald trump doubling down. the gop frontrunner again attacking george w. bush for 9/11. an angry jeb bush pushing back, insisting his brother kept america safe. questioning trump's fitness to be commander in chief. and just moments ago, trump fighting back. his brash tone is the right tone. >> i don't want a candidate that can be scared by a pollster, right? they pay them a lot. you shouldn't have said that! i mean, i've seen it. you shouldn't have said that today in south carolina! you have to say this! i don't really believe in that. doesn't matter. you have to say that. you want to get elected. who wants this stuff? you know what? if you can't get elected, you've got to do what's right. >> this comes as a new poll shows trump solidly in first place. 25% of the vote, jeb bush dropping to fifth place in the same poll. ben carson has closed to within three points of the lead. sarah murray begins our coverage out front tonight. she's with donald trump in south carolina at that rally. trump's event just wrapping up,
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literally seconds ago. how are they reacting to his comments and the controversial comments about george w. bush? >> reporter: well, the folks who brought it up -- some of them brought it up on their own accord. they said they didn't really think that was a fair statement from donald trump. one man even said i don't think george bush could have prevented 9/11 and i don't think donald trump, if he were president, could prevent something like that. but it doesn't seem to be something that's swaying voters one way or another in terms of their feelings. the voters who were undecided who i spoke to were still undecided after those comments, and the folks who were trump supporters were still trump supporters after his remark about 9/11. >> that's interesting. so they don't like it, but it's not changing their vote. did trump try at all to walk back his comments given that voters don't seem to like them? his supporters don't seem to like them. >> trump had a packed house here. he made no comment about 9/11 or
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about george bush. what's interesting is we tried to ask him about this. cnn caught up with him a couple days ago, tried to ask him about it on the rope line. he obviously has a big audience. he doesn't bring it up in these settings. he seems mainly comfortable. not so much talking about it in person. >> all right, sarah, thank you very much. interesting, two different audiences, the twitter audience versus the people who are attending his rallies. jeb bush tonight upping the ante, saying trump's comments about his brother on 9/11 give him grave doubts about trump's leadership of the country. dana bash is out front. >> reporter: a political duel about america's catastrophe on 9/11, 2001, playing out in a very 2016 way. donald trump tweeting, i'm fighting to make sure it doesn't happen again. jeb is too soft. that after bush had tweeted, donald trump talks about foreign policy as though he's still on "the apprentice."
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at issue, trump's suggestions that jeb's brother george w. bush could have done more as president to prevent the september 11 terror attacks. >> blame him or don't blame him, but he was president, the world trade center came down during his reign. it was such a disaster those last three months that abraham lincoln couldn't have been elected. >> you know what? as it relates to my brother. there's one thing i know for sure. he kept us safe. >> reporter: trump is even suggesting he could have stopped the 9/11 hijackers from getting into the u.s. in the first place. >> i'm extremely tough on people getting into the country. >> reporter: the 9/11 commission said only two of the 19 hijackers overstayed their visas, but others gamed the immigration system. the commission also said the attack was a shock, but should not have come as a surprise. still, jeb bush's campaign thinks trump's latest rant
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handed them a winning issue. >> next week, mr. trump is probably going to say that fdr was around when japan attacked pearl harbor. it's what you do after that matters and that's the sign of leadership. >> reporter: jeb bush's aides knew his brother's legacy would be a challenge, especially jeb bush's position on the iraq war, which he bungled early on, but 9/11? this was not something team bush ever dreamed would be relitigated, but they're happy to do so. using it to broaden criticism of trump as commander in chief. >> it looks as though he's not taking the possibility of being president of the united states really seriously. >> reporter: the bush campaign is even asking for donations with this e-mail, saying donate $5 and fight back against donald trump. >> jeb bush made a point of tweeting a reminder today for supporters to enter a contest to go and hang out. in texas next week with his brother, the former president george w. bush, it certainly may seem risky, considering how
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controversial george w. bush is, but erin, among the republicans out there in the cnn poll done over the summer, 88% say they approve of him. it's a huge number. and for jeb bush right now, republicans, it's the whole game now. he's in a republican primary contest. they're all that matter. >> thank you very much. incredible statistic. 88% of republican voters and a majority of the plurality of voters in this country. out front now, republican strategist alex castelanos. let me start with you. you just heard sarah murray at the rally. she asked people what they think about what donald trump's been saying about george w. bush. you saw his popularity there. they said they didn't like that line of attack, but it wasn't changing their vote. will donald trump be proven right on this attack as he has in so many of his other controversial takedowns? >> it won't affect his vote.
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he'll keep what he's got. donald trump has figured out that for his voters, this election is not about issues or differences on foreign policy. it's about strength. his voters think that america's in decline. they're going to lose their country. and they want a president as big and tough as their fears. so, guess what, he provokes an attack. he says things others wouldn't to prove, what? that he's stronger, that he's someone who will fight even worse things out there threatening. so far, he's been proven right. >> and what about this attack on george w. bush? is it a fruitful line of attack? >> it's not going to help him grow in this sense. he's attacking george w. bush for the moment he was the strongest. we all remember that pile of rubble. the searing memories of that day. and that's when george bush's strength rallied the country. so i think he didn't pick a very good fight on this one.
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but the challenge for jeb bush here is the only time we've seen him stand up and fight is really to defend his family. not so much to fight for us. so he's got to expand beyond that. >> you heard alex's point. >> what do you say to that? >> no, no. i think he will grow support. i'm looking at this poll from "the wall street journal" tonight and nbc. he's very, very strong there. he's raised an interesting point on this. i was appalled at jeb bush's answer about fdr and pearl harbor. they said he thought that franklin roosevelt should be impeached because of his dealings with pearl harbor. he also called him a traitor. i'm quoting directly here. so in other words, there was a
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congressional investigation in 1946 -- >> jeffrey, did i just hear you -- >> failed in his responsibility. all i'm saying -- >> did i hear you say that george w. bush is the e kwif land -- equivalent of a traitor? >> no, you heard me say that thomas e. dewey -- >> but you're citing that as an example? >> i am saying -- >> i'm horrified. >> i am saying the president of the united states, no matter who -- i didn't say that, alex, so let's not twist my words here. i am saying that presidents of the united states are responsible for what happens when they're at the head of the ship. just like bill clinton and osama bin laden. just like george bush. just like barack obama right now. when you're at the tiller, you are the responsible officer of the government, as john f. kennedy said. >> i wanted to be sure i understood this. i most assuredly did not say that george w. bush is a
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traitor. >> go ahead, alex. >> excuse me a moment. you defended what donald trump said by saying that's the way fdr was attacked. you justified what trump did by citing that he was a traitor? i'm horrified. >> i'm saying, that unbelievably to me, jeb bush doesn't know basic american history. he said something that just simply isn't true. he tried to imply that fdr was not attacked for pearl harbor. that is flatly not so. >> i don't think most americans -- >> you don't know american history. >> but you don't think that george bush when he stood on that pile of rubble and said we can all hear you now, and rallied the nation in one of its darkest moments. >> i thought he did a great job, alex. i keep saying this. you want to make me say something else. >> you wouldn't justify he should be called a traitor. >> i am saying he did a great job. i thought he was a great president for doing that.
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absolutely. you don't want to listen to me, alex. i'm saying jeb bush is the one who raised the subject. >> i was afraid i did listen to you. >> he's wrong. he's flat, dead wrong. >> wow. >> historically inaccurate. >> is there a point to be made that people will see it as the point that's being made? if you're the captain of the ship, there are some who will say you're the captain of the ship when it went down. that's what donald trump is trying to hone on to. >> hillary clinton was the captain at the state department. >> when there's a surprise attack and you see someone rally the nation and keep it safe for the next seven years of his administration and fight like hell to do that, and is -- you know, has the respect of the country for doing so, i think it's a little unfair to equate him with justifying assault on
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him like the dewey assault and compare that. that that's okay. because that's what donald trump in effect did. >> jeff brought it up, not me. >> we're going to hit pause on that. george w. bush knew the risks of al qaeda. bill clinton knew the risks of al qaeda. this is a much longer conversation to litigate than we could do here. i appreciate you taking the time, honing right in on the heart of it. donald trump will be a live guest on new day tomorrow morning. be sure to watch at 6:00 a.m. eastern right here on cnn. next, the latest cnn poll on the democratic side of the race. well, it's good news, bad news for hillary clinton. something really unexpected for her in there. that's next. plus, donald trump wanting secret service protection. but ben carson has been told he needs to have it. and needs to have it now. how serious is the threat? our report. and the drug company ceo who jacked the price of a drug by 5,000% is accusing bernie sanders of price gouging.
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this is vice president joe biden live. it's a little grainy. a little hard to get a signal. but the vice president speaking live at this moment to a group of armed service members. everyone watching to see whether he will talk about running for president tonight. that's why everyone is watching this feed. we are watching it. even as we continue here to talk about him. also tonight, biden is expected to meet with his top political advisers. another sign he may be ready to run. a source says his team is even interviewing potential campaign staff members. now, a new poll shows the vice president has major competition in the democratic field. sunlen serfaty is "outfront." >> it is so great to be here with all of you. >> reporter: hillary clinton still in the lead in the first
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national poll since the debate. her strong performance, though, not reflected in the polling. an uptick of only three points to sanders' five, this as sanders is riding high. babies are dressing like him, and now he's getting the equivalent of campaign gold, the "saturday night live" treatment. >> we're doomed! >> larry david nailing his impersonation. >> i own one pair of underwear! that's it! some of these billionaires, they've got three, four pairs. and i don't have a drier. i have to put my clothes on the radiator. >> reporter: which the real bernie sanders has not only been embracing, but playing it up event after event on the campaign trail. >> i bought my second pair of underwear. that's a joke. i have an ample supply of underwear. >> my name is larry david and bernie asked me to do this. >> scary, isn't it? he sounds more like me and i sound like me. >> it's cool. >> his chief opponent is no
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stranger to the "snl" treatment. >> no. >> and while sanders says he wants voters to connect with him on his ideas, not his style. that certainly, though, does help as people are paying more attention. >> you're okay with that? >> i don't have a choice about that. >> the campaign seems eager to ride the pop culture wave they've thought, joking they could see a larry david bump in the polls. >> dancing on "ellen" and keeping up the self-deprecating quips about his hair. >> i think it's my hair. it attracts the american people. well-groomed. your typical politician. >> a not so subtle sign that they're trying to turn this moment into momentum. >> i was at 3% in the polls. and the kind of people thought i was a fringe candidate. i think we made a lot of progress in the last five months. and i think we've got a real shot to win this. >> that's where the real benefit of this moment could be for
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bernie sanders, to go from being seen as just a fringe candidate to more of a mainstream candidate, especially as he starts to be introduced to a wider group of voters. but the real challenge here for the campaign, erin, is really being able to translate this moment into actual support. >> thank you very much. as you saw there, getting a chance to talk to bernie sanders today. "outfront," dan pfeiffer, and jonathan allen, co-author of hrc, state secrets and the rebirth of hillary clinton. you see bernie sanders in that piece. it's that endearing authentic man that voters are reacting to. when you look at the debate, it was pretty clear. voters thought hillary clinton was the clear winner of the debate. but she's not getting any bump in the polls. they're not saying they're going to vote for her as a result of that. is that a problem? >> i don't think it's a problem because she's got such a big lead right now. if you look at where things stand, bernie sanders needs to make a big dent in her lead.
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he didn't make a big dent. so if he's got 45% and he's sitting around that 30% mark, that's a victory for her. the longer she goes with that gap, the better off she is. he didn't shake up the race. and i think people who watch the debate, who were for her to begin with, are still for her. and people who were for sanders beforehand are still with him. >> it's a fair point. i want to note just for the record, she has a 16-point over bernie sanders. at the same time in 2008, it was a 30-point lead over then senator barack obama. so it's close, but certainly not insurmountable. dan, "saturday night live" depicted clinton's debate performance this way. let me play it. >> i think you're really going to like the hillary clinton that my team and i have created for this debate. she's warm, but strong. flawed, yet perfect. relaxed but racing full speed toward the white house like the t-1000 from terminator. >> i know we talked about this
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last week. you were one of the people who wrote the memo about her for barack obama at the time. she was driven by politics, not conviction. clearly, that has become such the line that it can be spoofed on "saturday night live." has she changed at all? >> this remains her greatest weakness, which is to be portrayed as traditional old ski style politics, being driven by calculation, not conviction. i think she is better prepared for that attack because of 2008, and by doing things like going on "saturday night live" a few weeks ago and sort of spoofing herself in that way, i think she helped soften the edges there and it puts her in a better position. but she will remain vulnerable forever. it's not just her, it's the long history of her last name and the political attacks she's weathered over the years. >> so let me play a little bit more bernie sanders on the trail. he's just so naturally able to respond to this larry david impersonation, which was one of the best i've ever seen.
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here's a little bit more of larry david. >> do you have more than one pair of underwear? [ laughter ] >> this is a serious question. yes, last week, i bought my second pair of underwear. that's a joke. please don't write it down. it was a joke. i have an ample supply of underwear. >> john, he's so self-deprecating and he makes underwear jokes funny. i don't think hillary clinton will ever make a joke about her underwear, and if she did, it would not go over well. there is something about bernie sanders that is just so likable in this. >> erin, you're trying to get me to say something that would get me in trouble here. i think bernie sanders' ability to be self-deprecating is a warm attribute, especially for a guy who is so serious all the time on the campaign trail. it's nice to see that. hillary clinton's humor tends to be a little more sarcastic, a
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little bit more biting. that's less warm. the contrast is a big one between the two of them. but if we're voting for president based on who's funny or not, maybe we should elect larry david. >> joe biden might hit all of these buttons. obviously in polls, he trails clinton. against donald trump, he beat donald trump, he does better than hillary clinton does in the polls. and also would beat ben carson. is biden still the magic wand the democrats need? >> i'm pretty skeptical of general election polls. particularly when one of the people polled in this case, the vice president, is somebody who's not even in the race yet. if the vice president decides to get in, a big part of the case he's going to have to make is he is the most electable democrat, and he has strengths where clinton has weaknesses. so polls like this, would be proof points for him along the way. but you want to see those numbers again once he's in the race and facing some of the scrutiny that a candidate gets, that someone not in the race yet
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tonight, donald trump and ben carson both requesting secret service protection. it's up to the department of homeland security and a congressional panel to decide whether the requests are granted. carson says it's the secret service that is telling him that he needs the protection. >> i don't feel the need for it, quite frankly, but the secret service thinks that i need it. so it is what it is. i recognize that someone like me who is very truthful and who
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really doesn't subscribe to all the traditional power structures is probably going to be a target. >> pretty incredible statement. trump maybe takens it's political, claiming he would have already had the protection if he was a democrat. i want to go to michelle kusinski, who's been looking onto this today. then senator barack obama received protection in may 2007. five months earlier than where we are right now at this point in the cycle. in terms of ben carson, he's being told, he says, by secret service that he needs the protection. what are they concerned about? >> well, that's not so clear, because his people did request the protection from the department of homeland security. and the request for both carson and trump are now under consideration. but what kind of threats exactly they're facing, you heard a little bit of that there from carson. as for trump's people, he's talking about the size of the crowds that he's really faced with. but that's true. i mean, president obama got secret service protection before he was the nominee. this was about nine months out
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of the democratic primary. and that was because of a very specific threat that he was getting. and he was the person who got that kind of protection earliest in history before the campaign started. so we're just going to have to wait and see how this plays out. whether this congressional panel, which consists of the leadership in both houses, working with the department of homeland security, whether they agree that whatever the threats are out there, and if they do conform with certain criteria that you have to meet, whether those requests are going to be met, erin. >> pretty incredible. interesting, as we heard, how carson just phrased it. but he's not surprised he would be a target. thanks to you, michelle. one area where trump and carson don't agree, because they agree on a whole lot, they agree on debate rules. they've agreed on some controversial comments on 9/11. they do not agree on money. trump is self-funding his campaign. that's what he says. meanwhile, carson collected nearly $21 million in the last quarter. that is more than any other republican candidate.
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and most of that money came from small donors. the big money, the big money that everybody hates and says is so influential hasn't been able to buy an election yet, and this time, it's going to someone else. kyung lah is "outfront." >> reporter: dotting the road leading to the tiny town of cisco, texas, sits giant billboards blairing the beliefs of its billionaire residents ferris and dan wilts, brothers pumping $15 million to republican ted cruz's super-pac. >> whenever he sees biblical things of the way he wants to do things, that's the way he wants to do thing. >> what wilkes wants, the family's conservative christian values defended. he's cisco's mayor and an associate pastor where ferris willings is the head passion or the. >> ferris doesn't want to do
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interviews. >> reporter: in his program this week, urging parishioners pray for public officials opposing gay marriage, even naming kim davis. in a rare interview with the christian broadcasting network last year, ferris wilkes said this. >> they're being taught the other ideas, the gay agenda every day in the world. so we have to stand up and explain to them that that's not real. >> reporter: his brother dan. >> i just think we have to make people aware and bring the bible back into the school. >> reporter: in this town of 4,000, the wilkes are cisco pride and folklore, local sons of a modest bricklayer made their way into the new oil, fracking. their expansive home tells their story of a billionaire fortune. these remote compounds are some of the few outward signs of wealth here in cisco. small reminders that these brothers are worth $2.7 billion, according to "forbes." so a $15 million political contribution? that's less than 1% of the
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brothers' net worth. the wilkes joined an elite group of super pac bankrollers. motor car mogul norman brayman donated five million, backing marco rubio. right to rise usa, health care equities investor miguel fernandez gave three million to jeb bush's super pac. priorities usa action, the univision owner donated two million to hillary clinton's super pac. this is presidential politics 2016, where it means recently rich sons hold sway. their rise on the national front, is that good or bad news for this country? >> i think it's good news. we've got all kinds of influences you can get from all different sides. and any time you've got somebody that's willing to provide and is able to provide an influence for
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good, i think it's a fantastic thing. >> this is the first election we've actually seen the wilks spread their financial wings. in 2008, they did donate a few thousand to the rnc. this time around, thanks to some looser laws, they're willing to put millions in to get their beliefs into policy. >> kyung lah, thank you very much. that's a fascinating report. i want to go straight to our political commentator and host of "the ben ferguson show," ben ferguson. this is amazing, right? these guys worth more than $2.5 billion. >> a lot of money. >> a lot of money. and she's standing there on a dirt road in texas. town of cisco. not a lot of wealth. they are the wealthy sons. now giving up $15 million and they're giving a lot of the money to back senator ted cruz. will this move the needle for someone like ted cruz? because so far, he's still in single digits. >> you've got to have money, but ultimately, look at scott walker. he had a great super pac, and it
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did nothing for him as a candidate. so you still have to have charisma. you still have to be a viable candidate. you still have to have ideas. and most importantly, you still have to connect with voters. i mean, if you're ted cruz, yes, it's a good amount of money. but is it going to be able to buy you this collection or the nomination? absolutely not. remember, donald trump is a multi-billionaire who can beat every one at this game with his own checkbook and his own pen. so i think if there's any time that this money doesn't buy influence, it's probably when you have a billionaire that you're running against. >> which is an interesting point. what's amazing, though, when you look at this in the polls, let's say donald trump were to get out of the race. or ben carson were to get out. the two frontrunners. if you take them out, there's really no movement for any of the other candidates, the lower candidates. they don't actually pick up a lot of support. so it would seem to me -- and those lower candidates are the ones who are the big donors.
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donald trump saw funding. ben carson has the little guy funding him. so it's the big rich guys that are putting all the money in to losing candidates. is that surprising? >> well, look at jeb bush. the great example is look at how much money not only his super pac, but also his campaign has been able to raise and it has not influenced the polls really in any way at all. it certainly can help you with the ground game in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, and moving forward. but you still have to have momentum. if you're not winning there, it doesn't matter. remember rick santorum last time. when rick santorum did not have money, he went up against mitt romney and every mega donor out there was able to all of a sudden make a campaign out of pennies. so that is still ultimately the x-factor. the reason why i think that you see that if ben carson or donald trump drops out, it doesn't help these other guys because they're still in that category of the non-politician, the i'm not washington. i've never run for office.
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i've never won before. so it's not surprising that their supporters early on are going to say i'm not supporting any of these other guys, they're what's wrong with washington, and that's why i'm with ben carson or donald trump. >> ben ferguson, thank you very much. pretty stunning, though. who knows what will happen? at this point you can say all this hate for all this big money. it's all coming in and it's not buying them anything. >> it's not buying much at all. >> no, it's not. "outfront" next, ahead to the cia and homeland security. e-mail accounts hacked. and you're not going to believe who's claiming responsibility for this and what they say they have. and the bizarre battle between bernie sanders and the drug company ceo dubbed the most hated man in america. know the t to a happy home in these modern times? it's a housewife who's in control of the finances. actually, any wife, husband, or human person can use progressive's name your price tool to take control of their budget. and while the men do the hard work of making money, she can get all the car insurance options her little heart desires. or the women might do the hard work of making money. [ chuckling ] women don't have jobs.
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a hacker vowing to leak stolen information from the head of the cia. the alleged hacker says he broke into the cia director and the homeland security secretary's private e-mail accounts. get this. the hacker says he's a high school student. evan perez is "outfront." what information does the hacker say he has? >> we're talking about sensitive information, particularly from john brennan's aol account.
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take a look at a couple tweets from this alleged hacker. he claims he's part of a group that got into brennan's contact list and got access to jeh johnson's comcast account. one document he posted earlier today is a list of purported members of the intelligence community with security clearance. another document he claims he stole is a government form that brennan would have filled out in order to get his top secret security clearance. brennan would have provided this information while he was still a private citizen before he took a job in the obama administration. >> i mean, first of all, aol account. i don't know why the cia director would be using an aol account. still, how hard is it, though, to do what the hacker says he did? >> it's more trickery than hacking. it's not scale, it's more a way of hoaxing people into providing
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information and allowing you to gather enough information that can get control of accounts. this is very common for people to get access to your twitter account or your apple icloud account. this is why a lot of companies are requiring extra steps before they allow you to reset your password. we probably all lose our password so easily. >> so this is basically like he would have received an e-mail and clicked on something, and in so doing entered a password or something like that? >> that is one way they do it. it's a very common way. also you call up a company and say that you've been locked out of your account and you ask them for help in getting into it. and that's another way. they take a couple of steps before they get to your real account they're trying to take control of. >> all right. evan, thank you very much. pretty shocking on a lot of levels here. i want to go straight to the former cia operative. if this is to be believed, he has john brennan's e-mail address, phone number, social security number, a lot of other things. how serious is it?
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>> it's serious. john brennan i doubt kept any classified information on his aol account. it's very unlikely. so he's not going to hack into cia documents. but on the other hand, it puts him at a certain risk. it's a vulnerability. he could get into his credit accounts, his visa cards, find out where he takes his vacation, who his family members are, get his contact list, which is very important. and for a he or she tall intelligence service, this sort of information is invaluable. >> but then you would imagine hostile intelligence services have this information. if a teenager could do it, they would already have it? >> well, you know, shame on the russians or the chinese if they haven't tried and i wouldn't be surprised if they got in. just keep in mind that e-mail accounts are all hackable. whatever service. and anything you put on e-mail, you might as well make it public. >> so there's no difference in your mind when you hear aol,
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other than the fact that it might be a surprise the cia director is using aol. but no difference between aol or yahoo or gmail or anything like that? >> they're equally easy to get into. aol is a bit older. i keep an aol account. but as a former operative, i don't put anything in e-mail that i wouldn't want to put on this tv program. that's how vulnerable we are. >> and so in the context here of what damage could be done, obviously this hacker saying there's other information about other cia employees. do you think that that's possible? that would imply if it's true in any way that there was cia information on the cia director's personal e-mail. >> well, the problem is we all take shortcuts with e-mail. and we don't want it on government e-mail. no one wants to get a cia e-mail. so they'll use their private e-mail to contact even other government officials possibly ones undercover. the problem with the cia right now is when you apply for the cia, you do it on the internet. which i think is inherently
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tonight the battle heating up between democratic presidential candidate bernie sanders and the ceo that hiked the price of a life-saving drug by 500%. the man that promised to lower the price of the drug hitting back hard. joe johns is "outfront."
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>> reporter: bernie sanders today against greedy drug company ceos and vowing to bring down the cost of prescription drugs. >> one of five americans cannot fill prescriptions their doctors are writing for them. that's crazy. that's totally crazy. >> reporter: equally crazy, the bizarre between sanders and the drug company ceo, called the most hated man in america after he jacked up the price of a drug to $750 a bill, up 5,000%, an issue where donald trump and hillary clinton found common ground. >> that's price gouging. >> looks like a spoiled brat to me. >> reporter: the latest battle began soon after he donated $2700 by law the maximum individual donation to sanders campaign, a donation soon rejected by sanders. in an e-mail to supporters he called him a prescription drug price gouger. >> i think we gave that money to
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a clinic that helps people with aids. >> reporter: he fired back after noticing the sanders campaigned initially asked donors for $3 and now $26. he tweeted bernie sanders raised the donation question 750%, price gouging and tweeting so angry at bernie sanders, i could punch a wall and posting an x-ray of a broken wrist. when someone accused shkreli, the ceo responded that's what the doctor sent me but said it was a joke and his wrist wasn't joken, bored, playing the guitar, who wants to hear a song? >> he says the price of the drug will be reduced but not yet. the money to sanders campaign was donated to an aids clinic,
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halloween is just 12 days away and it's going to be huge. here is jeanne moos. >> reporter: here at halloween
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adventure. you can pick up props ranging from snakes to wings to hearts but if your heart belongs to topical costumes. >> i've had hillary for awhile. >> reporter: this is what the media have been calling sexy donald trump for the ladies. yandy.com sells lingerie but branched out to halloween costumes and when this happened. >> the internet blew up over this video of a rat carrying pizza. >> reporter: the pizza rat costume with rate ears, tail and p pockets, the blue black versus white gold dress called what the color. pita is selling costumes. >> this is cecil the lion getting revenge on dr. palmer. >> reporter: pita says it's a
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tong and cheek way to provoke discussion of trophy hunting. >> be the talk of the party. >> reporter: the price $140, the lion's share goes to fund pita's causes but who needs a new costume when you've already dressed your baby up as the pope and gotten his blessing? other do it yourself ideas, movie popcorn or spaghetti and meat balls and if you happen to be pregnant, turn your baby bump into the perfect parole or magic eight ball. halloween mainstays tend to be mundane. >> the bread and butter are vampires. everybody wants to be a vampire and everybody wants to be a zomb zombie. >> reporter: what does a kid want to be, disney's barfing gnome. >> there is a straw and you blow on it and unravels. >> reporter: though there are those who would probably argue people dress up for halloween. >> they are gejeanne moos, cnn
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new york. >> i'm going as a spider. "ac 360" starts right now. good evening. we begin tonight in south carolina where donald trump is campaigning while in middle of a war of words with jeb bush online and on tv. a feud over the worst day in american history. trump and bush are sparring over the 9/11 terror attacks and what george w. bush did or did not do in trump easie's estimation. this started when trump said the world trade center came down during trump's reign and george bush called pathetic on twitter. the feud continued on the weekend. here is what trump said when he was asked flat out if he blames george w. bush for 9/11. >> jeb said we were safe with my brother. we were safe. well, the world trade center just fell down. am i trying to blame him?