>> i'm michael smerconish, glad you're here to recap an unbelievable week. the doc ahead of the donald in iowa. in colorado pot has pulled ahead of alcohol in tax revenues. i'm talk to the governor about the windfall. and with benghazi seemingly in hillary's rear view mirror, her campaign is about to unleash the big dog. bill going back out on the campaign trail. and nobody knows his impact like joe klein who wrote "primary colors" and he'll join us.

but first, even though no american will cast a presidential vote in the next 100 days, a lot of candidates out, rick perry, out. scott walker, out. jim webb out, at least for now. link chaffey out. and jeb bush just slashed his staff and politico reported that mitch mcconnell is encouraging rand paul to spend more time on his senate re-election next year instead of his presidential bid. at last gop debate, donald trump said paul didn't deserve to be on the stage. so i asked rand paul for that. >> i was at the reagan library for that first gop debate. i thought it was absolutely bizarre that the opening question is whether donald trump is fit to handle the nuclear codes. question goes to carly fiorina, she responded. trump gets a rebuttal and he begins by talking about you. >> first of all, rand paul should never be on the stage. he's number 11, how he got up

here, there's far too many people, anyway. as far as temperament, we all know that, i never attacked him on his look, and believe me, there's plenty of subject matter right there. >> why is he obsessed with you? >> i think he was somewhat goaded into it. for about a week before that debate, people kept asking me what are you going to say. i kept saying i was easy on donald trump last time, i'll be harder next time. i think he thinks there will be a get-up or dust-up right here. i think there's not a lot of important ideas for the country coming out of him. he's the king of the one-line insult. i just don't think vulgarity equates with insight. eventually, it will be an important question who do you want to be in charge of the nuclear codes? who do you want to be in charge of the nuclear weapons? because temperament is important. who do you want to be able to negotiate with putin? who do you want to be able to negotiate with all the world leaders?

someone who is sane with the world view or someone who thinks, just give me power because i'm all-knowing and if i just had to much power i could fix everything because i'm winning. and i think that ludicrous notion of power, i think, is antithetical to what we stand for in america. we always wanted to limit the amount of pow of the monarch because we were concerned about that. >> ben carson says out of the box things and seems to get rewarded for them. he's leading "the des moines register" poll in iowa. what do you think? >> i think it's good news that we have rotation among leadership in the polls and it isn't monolitic. when we come to january, a week or two out from the iowa primary, my prediction is that you'll have five or six people within striking range of leading. that's where we want to be. jim webb is out. lincoln chafee is out. scott walker is out. some people talk about rand paul getting out. i know you don't like that.

it comes from the media. it occurs to me, we're a long way from anybody casting a ballot. give my a general take on that notion that candidates get out before americans vote? >> i'm a big believer in democracy, part of it is voting. so i'm all for letting people vote. we're not getting out until someone votes. we think our fortunes are improving. we have a better ground game in iowa and new hampshire than any other candidate. we think the government shouldn't collect your phone records. we think the government should put you in jail for marijuana. and we think the government shouldn't send you back to war in iraq. that's a unique pitch in the republican primary. i think there are enough republicans attracted to it. >> is it true that mitch mcconnell is saying to you, you ought to focus on the senate and not on the white house? >> no, that's a completely false story and i think it's funny that people will write things that are completely false. i don't think he's even been asked that directly. someone asked him directly, people report these stories because they have a conclusion and a narrative and they write it, trying to get what they want, but it's not the truth. >> okay.

where's dad? i always admired your father. i haven't seen him on the stump. where is he? >> i'm a great admirer of my dad's. i think he's one of the most honest people to serve in office. the race has to be those about those running. jeb's dad isn't going to be out there too much, i don't think his brother is either. a great respect for him. and so do i. the race has to be about the individual running. >> senator rand paul just published a book it's called "our presidents and their prayers: proclamations of faith by america's leaders." give me the thesis. >> we often talk about the separation of church and state. we haven't talked about our faith, a big part of our nation's founding. and really, every president, from the beginning to current times, has talked about how their faith influences their philosophy and their beliefs on how government ought to be run. >> do you think they're telling the truth? i ask that question, senator, because pew research came out this past spring saying 22% of

americans are now nuns. nones. why is it not one single member of congress, 535, house and senate, who say i'm in that camp? >> i think what you find even among the president from the beginning to now, you find some of them weren't always orthodox as we define orthodox christianity now. they did believe in something that is really important, that people should have virtue. that the people should have self-restraint and important civilizing force to not just say, oh, well, you have your liberty, do whatever you want. no, we say you have your liberty but we also want the eem to have some underlying virtue that gives stability and sense of purpose to a country. >> senator rand paul, thanks so much for being in the studio. >> thank you. >> so you heard rand paul say this, he's not getting out before people vote. hear on that, michelle bernard, columnist matt lewis and bob beckel.

he managed walter mondale's presidential campaign and has a brand-new book out. "i should be dead, my life survived politics, tv and addiction." matt lewis, retooact to you heard what rand paul said, matt lewis, i'm not getting out before people vote? >> well, we've seen the polls for the last 100 days with donald trump at or near the top, that that's the new normal. things really change when we go into iowa. i would not be surprised if we're not surprised. somebody that's fifth place now could end up winning iowa. >> as you know, we reference "the des moines register" poll which shows carson in the lead ahead of trump. donald trump had an interesting reaction to it. let's all watch. >> we have a breaking story. donald trump has fallen to second place behind ben carson.

we informed ben, but he was sleeping. >> bob beckel, it worked with regard to jeb bush. is that going to work with regard to ben carson? >> no. and it's funny about trump, trump will talk about the polls. that's his justification for why he's the main man in the republican party. because he's always head in the polls. he falls behind in a couple of good polls, all of a sudden, he's got to turn it into a negative attack on carson. i'll tell you one thing, he's very lucky that the benghazi hearings were taking place on thursday. that tweet he sent out about bob sanfield in iowa and the poll was just outrageous. >> i'm going to show it. michelle bernard, take a look at this. this is the retweet from the donald where he says too much monsanto in the corn creates issues in the brain. then he quickly throws an intern under the bus when he realizes he's made a mistake. the young intern who

accidentally did a retweet he or she, i guess, apologizes. michelle, a huge mistake in iowa, right? a huge mistake to make in eye and as usual, it's always the poor intern's fault when it comes to the king of social media and politics at least when talking about 2016 presidential politics. big mistake for donald trump. if i were, with regard to i, was i would tell him there's no surprise that ben carson is doing as well as he is in iowa with republican caucusgoers. he's deeply evangelical. he's quiet, he's soft-spoken. he speaks to the people of eye in a way that the other republican candidates have not been able to do so. most importantly, if you're one of the other people running behind whether carson, iowa, you have to remember iowa caucusgoers also picked rick santorum and mike huckabee.

>> and mike huckabee, right. >> it doesn't mean anything. >> i want to show you a montage of so-called gaffes of dr. carson. i have an observation that i'll share after we roll these 30 seconds. >> you know, obamacare is really, i think, the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery. a lot of people who go into prison go into prison straight and when they come out they're gay. i think the likelihood of hitler being able to accomplishing his goals would be diminished if the people were not armed. i would not advocate that we put a muslim in charge of this nation. i absolutely would not agree with that. >> matt lewis, my theory, ben carson could pay for that commercial, roll it in iowa and help him win the caucus. and hillary could run it in the general election and it would cost ben carson the general your thoughts? >> i think you're exactly right.

i'm writing a book called "too dumb to fail "s about the conservative movement and that's what this is, right? it helps him in the primary. but that's actually in the long run in the general election death. that is the fundamental problem right now that conservatives and republicans have. in order to win the primary, it helps to say things that will maybe cost you the general election. >> bob -- >> michael, you react as well. >> listen, that -- those kind of comments, that's not just going to win your general election. it's new hampshire, it's getting into nevada. it's in the states that follow that stuff crazy. one of the things about carson, yes, he's soft-spoken and yes, he does appeal to evangelicals and they do vote in those caucuses. by the way, i look at the polls on trump in the cross hairs, and a lot of those people don't go to caucuses. but leaving that aside, i think carson, what he says now may be a good iowa ground game, but

the rest of the states, even among republicans, it's not that smart. >> michelle, i want you to hear a snip snippet from johnson's radio show where ben carson said something else that is controversial, listen. >> you think biden? >> yes. >> why do you think he can beat hillary for the nomination? >> because hillary could well be in jail and it's hard to run from there. >> michele bernard, you're an independent, you're the exact type of voter that i talk about when i say this is lethal in a general election. but i'm speaking for you. go ahead and react. >> absolutely. most independents i would guess, are obviously going to think about every single candidate on an issue by issue basis. one of the things that i find most frightening about ben carson and what's happening in iowa now is that there's a recent, i think, bloomberg/des moines poll, what dr. carson said about hillary clinton, what he said about

obamacare and slavery, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, iowan as prove of in large numbers, 70%, 80%, 88% agree with him. that's wonderful for him at the primary level. but i think it's also a way of handing the election over to hillary clinton, simply because americans are going to hear those kind of statements. independents in particular are sitting at home and they're saying is this really who i want to be the next leader of what's supposed to be the greatest nation on earth. >> matt, i keep expecting a winnowing of the so-called maverick field of carson and carly and i keep expecting the emergence from the establishment camp and yet jeb financially is struggling, got a lot of money in the back but cut 40% of his campaign staff. is he going to be around long enough to be the beneficiary if the mavericks start to drop? >> well, compared to the democrats, joe biden, jim webb,

lincoln chafee, they're going to clear the path for hillary. republicans are never going to do that because some of them think it's a wide-open field they can win. i think others want fox news shows or whatever, a column somewhere. so they have an incentive to stay in the race. jeb bush, was a man as churchill said, had a brilliant future behind him. i think he would have been a great candidate in 199. i don't think he's a candidate for the republican party today. >> here's what jeb bush is saying, he sat down with pat robertson. beckel, react to what he said in the clip. >> this means lean and mean and means that i have the ability to adapt. >> owe cape. >> and the circumstances, when we started the election were different. i have not met a person that thought donald trump would be the front-running candidate at this point. god bless him for success in that regard. we'll see how how long it lasts. but you have to adapt. >> bob, the most telling thing to me if you're running as a republican, you still have to

sit down with pat robertson if you're seeking the nomination. >> the word "adapt" in presidential politics is always a dangerous run. the burn rate, we talk about, if you don't know what that is, how much money you're going through every day, in a campaign and bush is going through an enormous amount of money. he's decided to concentrate his fire power in new hampshire which makes sense. he needs to come out of new hampshire at least long enough to compete in florida. my theory about this is, fiorina is already starting to fall. we don't have to worry about talking about the good doctor. he's not going to be the republican nominee, nor is donald trump. the question is, who between marco rubio and jeb bush wins florida. i think whoever does that is probably a very strong front-runner. >> well i know that you, bob, are looking at a potential rubio/kasich ticket. as being the most formidable. for me, i think it's kasich/rubio. as to which gets top billing. do you think beckel is wrong for

thinking that es the most formidable in the gop. >> well, i don't think john kasich can win a republican primary. i think it's implausible. i do think marco rubio would win, who knows where he would go to for a running mate. >> can i just add, i really think we make a mistake by counting carly fiorina out. 2012 was the year of the republican women. if you look at iowa, you look at south carolina, all over the country, republican voters liked republican female candidates in 2012. people who were quote/unquote true to the republican message. who were true conservatives. and i think carly fiorina should not be counted out. i would bet that donald trump and ben carson would be out before her. >> but, michelle, what happened to her this week? she just took a hit in all of the surveys. what accounts for it? >> well, i think what we see with her is a bump that every time there is a debate. i think the longer we get to see

her in the public, debating all of the men that she's running against, the higher her numbers will keep going. >> she was really hurt by not having another debate. there's a month since the last debate. there had been another one a week late, she would have momentum. >> the problem is, when you do really well in a debate like she presumably did, you usually sustain that momentum going into the following week. in this case, she fell off dramatically. has anybody seen or heard from her in the last week? i haven't. >> i will tell you the mistake people make, particularly with female candidates when you write them off, and underestimate them, that's what the entire public has done with carly fiorina. i'm not saying she's the republican nominee. but i think we have not seen the last of her. and i would not be surprised if towards the end of the primary season, we're seriously talking about carly fiorina and hillary clinton running against each other. >> hey, gang, i want to give beckel props. a couple weeks ago

you were here i asked you about biden. here's our exchange. one word answer from each of you. bob beckel, does vice president biden get into this thing? >> no. >> bob, the speech he delivered in the rose garden, if you wipe out the first three paragraphs and replace it with i'm a candidate of the president of the united states, it's remarkable to study that document. quick reaction from you before we go? >> i'm glad he did what he did. i don't think he could have run. if hillary didn't get into trouble with the irs, he could get into this race anyway. the delegates are not bound, legally. if the party turned to somebody, they wouldn't turn to sanders, they'd turn to biden. >> the amount-team, thank you for being here. >> thank you. tweet me@smerconish. coming up a new gallup poll says 6 in 10 americans favor the legalization of marijuana. why does colorado governor john

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where there's smoke, there's money, according to a new study from the american medical association, pot use in this country has doubled in the last decade. and for states where recreational use has been legalized, it's been quite a revenue high. last year, the state of colorado collected almost $72 million in marijuana taxes. nearly double what it got from alcohol taxes. this year, it will be $100 million in revenue on $1 billion in sales. and yet when legalization was first suggested, governor john hickenlooper was strongly against it. how about now, governor hickenlooper joins me from denver. governor, you've called this the greatest social experiment of the 21st century. how's it working out? >> well, i think we've made a lot of progress. and i should point out that we collect and measure the sales tax from pot, about 70% of the sales tax, of the tax revenue, is from sales tax. so it's really not even close to what we collect from alcohol. i think the experiment is a great experiment, we've made a lot of progress. a long way to go.

>> i'd quote data from the american medical association, but i think your findings relative to adult use in colorado is that pot consumption is really not up. it's that people who are smoking are smoking and doing it legally, is that fair to say? >> right. i think that -- and i've heard it all, right -- we're having a high old time in colorado, it's my way or the highway. we've heard all of that. the truth is the people who weren't smoking pot still aren't. and the folks that were, still are and but now they're paying taxes now. >> what about high school students? >> that's been my biggest concern. that's why when gefrs ask me, you were saying still not a wild enthusiast behind this, this high thc marijuana, every brain scientist that we've talked to is convinced that this is -- if even infrequent smoking, if your brain is still growing rapidly, like when you're a teenager, it

has very high probability to permanently remove a sliver of your long-term memory. diminish your long-term memory every time by the time you smoke. i think that's very disconcerting for us. kids are -- there's no big spike yet, but there is a clear increase on a number of kids when asked the question, do you expect you'll smoke pot again in the next year. that number seems to be going up. >> you know the gateway debate plays itself out when talking about the legalization of marijuana. is it necessarily a gateway to bigger and worse things. where do you come down in that? >> well, i try to avoid getting to the debate because there's not much data to argue successfully one way or the other. what we have done, to say, all right, this tax revenue that we're getting, we're not putting it into anything else, roads or early childhood education. nothing else that government does. we're focusing on making sure we have enough money to regulate. to make sure our roads are safe.

also to make sure if we have a program ta hat if a kid starts smoking and has an inclination of bipolar disorder, we have programs that can help them get back on track. i think that's a big part of how this experiment is working. do we have sufficient revenues to make sure we can handle all of the unintended consequences. >> what has been the most unexpected finding from this so-called experiment thus far. what caught governor hickenlooper by surprise? >> i think the biggest surprise was that there wasn't a big spike in usage. you know, people who were smoking it, still are. the people who didn't smoke it before, still don't. i think that says that, you know, when you're young, it seems kind of exciting to, you know, get stupid. i don't know how else to say it. but as you get older, the

attraction isn't as strong. i think it's more infrequent for most people. it is a recreational, occasional indulgence that they do. >> do you see this going the way of casino gambling, insofar as other governors take a look at your revenue stream, and they say, well, we want that as well. and then when it's legal anywhere, it dissipates the impact it has on your state? >> well, i don't think we're seeing a whole lot of tourism marijuana use, tourists coming here just to use marijuana. i don't think whether other states take it up or not will make that much of a difference. i will say, we do see which tourists come here, they are smoking marijuana more than other people. because they're obviously on vacation and indulging themselves. i tell the other governor, right now, we're not making any extra revenue from this right? in terms of spending the money to regulate the industry, making sure we have money for the appropriate programs. and then money to educate kids. we need to make sure kids and

their parents understand this high thc marijuana is permanently diminish your long-term memory. we still have spent millions and millions of dollars and we still haven't gotten everyone to realize, you're taking some serious risks, certainly as a teenager where your brain is going rapidly. >> so what i'm hearing from you, the bottom line is the jury's still out? you're still not sure whether it was a good move? >> well, i think we've got another year or two, two or three years to really be able to get enough facts to say for sure that we can do this. we have made a lot of progress. i said a couple times if i could -- after the election if i could have reversed it, i would have reversed it immediately. now, if i had the power to reverse that vote, i'd wait a year or two. just see if we can make headway. we've still got issues with animals, how well we regulate them, so that everybody knows

that this candy or this fruit bar -- relates -- >> brownie -- >> is laced with thc. >> brownie, exactly. all of those things that we got to make sure we get that stuff clearly depicted. if we get rid of the black market, right? drug dealers don't care who they sell pot to. seven years ago, anywhere, any teenager could buy marijuana anywhere and it was cheap. if you dry out the marijuana black market it makes kids less likely to get pot. >> you're making my stage manager awfully hungry. thank you, governor. appreciate you being here. >> you bet. it's a pleasure. do you want your state to follow colorado, tweet me @smerconish. i'll read the best at the end of the program. still to come, how did she do? perhaps the best barometers of hillary's appearance of the benghazi is that fox stopped its live coverage before it ended and all matt drudge could say was she coughed. more on that in a moment.

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it was supposed to be a game-changer. hillary's downfall said some. the hearing investigating her actions as secretary of state during the deadly attack on the u.s. embassy in benghazi. the gop and fox news they've been salivating with anticipation. well, during 11 grueling, sometimes meandering hours, fox news actually stopped covering

the proceedings. all of the conservative matt dredge could find to attack was hillary having a coughing fit. "rolling stone" says republicans 11-hour gift to hillary clinton and says conservatives practically picked clinton up and carried her to the white house. was benghazi a game-changer in the opposite direction that her opponents had hoped? joining me now lanny davis, joseph degenova, former attorney for washington, d.c. welcome, gentlemen. joe, you go first. do you agree with the pundit crass that it was a net gain for hillary clinton? >> yes, i do. >> really? >> i thought in the short term, will be a gain for her, but i predict it will not wear well over the long haul for a number of reasons. one point that the committee did not make which it should have, during her year as secretary of state when chris stevens arrived in libya, the security was 38.

the day he was killed the security was at nine. and also during the hearing something important that got missed, she said that the sidney blumenthal exchanges were not fish business. she denominated them as personal. and that's why they were not turned over. and finally she said something i think over the long haul will not wear well. she said she was no under no obligation under the 1999 seca law to sign a waiver for low security at benghazi. in fact, that statement was false. the law's very clear. she is required. in addition, the arb, the accountability review board, which she said that she praises, said that there was a waiver signed under that law, but it it didn't say by whom it was signed. that will be the next stage to look into it. for the moment, she has a temporary but i think fleeting victory. >> joe, i sent out a tweet watching all of this. i said it's interesting, sometimes, the gop likes to

trash trial lawyers. they really needed one because there seemed like no cogent consistent theme to the questioning. and splitting it up the way that they did, i just think that they scored no points. respond to that. >> i agree with you 100%. this is just like the rest of congressional hearings conducted by republicans over the last several years. there has been incompetence -- there's been a wash in incompetence. some of the questioning was superb by gowdy and jordan but by and large, opportunities were miss swpd as i can tell you, no one knew, in fact, when the secretary said that benghazi was not covered by the seca act that she had to determine that low security was okay, not a single member knew that answer was false. >> lanny davis, joe says enjoy while it lasts because in the long term it's going to catch up with her. >> i'm sorry to be lighthearted but i love joe. >> and i love you, lanny.

let's get married. that's a real democratic -- >> it's allowed now. >> there's only one american in america that will say that. in november 2016, a voter is going to say, you know, she lied about the seca act. the what? let's at least look at the big picture. this was supposed to be another investigation about this terrible tragedy. why did it happen? who is at fault? and most importantly, how do we prevent it from happening in the future? that is what this extra investigation and this special committee was supposed to be about. i was on last night, on this cnn great network, with mike rodgers who chaired the republican mike rodgers, now retired. the house intelligence committee report which thoroughly examined all of the questions about benghazi. was critical of secretary clinton, as was the arb, about not having institutional capabilities of taking the request for more security and effectively implementing them.

she accepted the words systemic failure in that report by ambassador pickering and admiral mullen was published because she committed to publishing it. and mike mullen said, absolutely, she should be criticized for that. but on everything else, mike mullen said there was no stand-down order that the state department failed to appreciate. and most importantly no exploitation or politicization of those talking points. that mr. jordan seemed to have pleasure in talking about which had nothing do with what happened in benghazi and how do we prevent it in the future. that's the big victory. >> lanny, i want to show you and joe and everybody what congressman jordan said on another score. and that was an e-mail sent to chelsea clinton. let's roll that. >> you're looking at an e-mail you sent to your family. here's what you said, at 11:00 that night, approximately one hour after you told the people it was a video, you said to your

family, two officers were killed today in benghazi by an al qaeda-like group. you tell the american people one thing, you tell your family an indoorly different story. >> so, lanny, she's telling her family, she's telling the egyptian prime minister one thing. and the one thing is it's terror-related but telling the public and ambassador rice something else, and the reason is because we're within 50, 55 days of the campaign where the democrats have said we've got al qaeda on the run, the obama administration running for re-election, cannot afford the american people to see, no, you don't have al qaeda on the run, they're very active. and they just killed ambassador stevens and three other americans, it all fits, no? >> no. let me quote the republican intelligence committee. there are multiple theories about what happened. the cia wrote the sentence, congressman jordan never said

cia in a sentence last night. there are others who believe, including secretary clinton that there might have also been terror elements. in fact, at the time she wrote the e-mail, i haven't talked to her, it's my theory, she may have believed that but what the cia said and the chairman of the republican intelligence committee said, multiple theories sorted out over a period of time. no political narrative by the cia. no political narrative by a republican chairman of the intel committee. there was confusion. there was the fog of war. and ultimately, everybody knew it was not about a spontaneous demonstration. but it was about a terrorist attack, but that took a period of time. >> joe, didn't i just lay it out in 20 seconds more clearly than what republicans were able to do in 11 hours? >> yes, absolutely. that was part of their problem. they have a great difficulty messaging, it's a blessing and a gift to the democrats and a gift to hillary clinton. one thing that is amazing to the investigations it wasn't until trey gowdy came along that the

people knew that hillary clinton only had had everything done on a private server lodged in her house. what was another interesting piece of information yesterday, she said when her lawyers went to visit the state department, they did not tell the people at the state department that her e-mail was on a private server. and that's because she didn't tell her lawyers that. it's a very interesting set of circumstances, which is going to plant a way out in the fbi investigation of the server. and whether or not espionage laws were violated in the mishandling of classified information. i think over the long haul, these hearings will have served some useful purpose. but all in all, i would say she's the winner in yesterday but it's going to be a short lived victory. thank you so much for being here. >> thank you, mike. coming up with hillary clinton on a roll, some people think it's safe to unleash the big dog? what will bill's impact be?

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the guy who used to have the job is finally helping out his wife. former president bill clinton now taking a visible role in hillary's presidential bid. this week he was spied in street clothes cheerfully sending the former first lady and secretary of state off to the benghazi hearings. with all things involving the clintons, it's a bit complicate. is this presence going to help? who better to ask than the infamous satire colors "primary colors" legendary journalist joe klein, columnist for "time" who has a brand-new book that we'll talk about "charlie mike" about wounded veterans finding hope when they return to america. the big dog getting back on the trail. has he lost his gift? in '08 he made stumbles? >> i don't know. i don't know. i was amazed how awkward he was in 2008. then she also has a problem of

him being so damn good. >> overshadowing? >> yes. >> there's nobody -- i've been doing this 47 years and i've never seen anybody better than bill clinton on the stump. although he wasn't always that way. >> you know, she just concluded a terrific week. the combination of her debate. biden getting out. the appearance of the benghazi hearing, all going her way. now, he comes out earlier than we expected to see him. do you think now they feel like the water is safe, and we can put him out without any repercussions? >> i think they should put him back away until later. i think they made a miscalculation that they might need him after the last week or so. but they don't need him because she was so entirely spectacular yesterday. it occurs to me that something that bill clinton used to discuss when he was running for office was the concept of responsibilities.

"charlie mike" is a book all about responsibility. >> i think that we have a very quiet crisis in this country about citizenship. citizenship is not just a passive thing. it involves responsible action. it involves getting involved. you know, we're dominated in this cycle by role information voters. the guys i write about in "charlie mike," are the exact opposite. they volunteered for the military. and 90% of our veterans say they want to continue to serve when they come home. "charlie mike" is a book about two heroes who are linked by an awful tragedy, who come home, start public service organizations, that have become fabulously successful. they are representatives of the citizenship that the rest of us really need. >> the beauty of those that you write about in "charlie mike" i think is the organic nature of what they do. the book opens with a guy who is on his sofa, i think, in california. and he's watching a hurricane,

handy decides i've got to get involved in this. >> actually, his name is jake wood. he played tackle for the university of michigan. was a marine grunt. and he's going to kill me -- university of wisconsin -- sorry, jake -- and he's watching the haiti earthquake. on cnn and he calls up a bunch of his friends, says, let's go down there and help. and within four days, they're running the largest emergency room in the biggest hospital in when i was reading the book, and this is high praise, i was thinking tom brokaw, the greatest generation and joe clyne just put on our radar screen the fact that we are living now amidst a great generation. >> these guys and women are putting themselves on the radar screen. they are doing something no other generation has done. they are taking care of each other. and they're working in our communities. and they're going to make their presence felt. >> the book is called "charlie

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