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you will watch, we will discuss, here's a taste. >> there's the officer dragging the girl through the classroom. that officer placed on administrative leave by the sheriff's department. some in the community demanding he be fired. let's begin our conch with jason carroll. what do we know? > no matter what the circumstances, this video is very disturbing, very troubling to look at. as you say, a number of folks there in the community, asking for this officer to be fired. just as the video starts, you can hear the deputy say, you're going to come with me or i'm going to make you. then things got physical. >> either you're going to come with me or i'm going to make you. >> south carolina school police officer ben fields, seen here, is on administrative leave this morning after his violent takedown of a high school student was caught on camera monday afternoon. you can see the sheriff's deputy tossing a female student to the
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ground, after she refused to get up from her desk, then throwing her across the classroom floor. >> give me your hands. give me your hands. >> we don't anyone to rush to judgment, but we also feel that the video was very, very disturbing. >> according to police, the richland county student was asked to leave the classroom. when she refused, fields was called in to arrest her for disturbing class. school officials say the video is quote, extremely disturbing, and has banned the deputy from all district schools, pending an investigation. the sheriff's department who is still looking into the matter says it's still unclear what happened before the camera startstart started rolling. >> we'll have to look at the image totality to determine what happened. >> reporter: the deputy has been the subject of two lawsuits in the last ten years. in 2007, a couple claimed he used excessive force in questioning them about a noise
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complaint. the husband says fields slammed him to the ground, cuffed him, and began kicking him, but the jury ruled in fields' favor in 2010. in 2013, a student claimed fields falsely accused the teen of being involved in a gang, the school expelling him. that lawsuit is ongoing. >> when you see a video like what we've seen earlier today, it certainly alarms you and makes you a little bit afraid of what is actually happening within our schools. >> reporter: the deputy has been working for the school district for seven years and was recently awarded the culture of excellence award in 2014 for proving to be what they say was an exceptional role model to the student students. and that deputy has not responded to cnn's request for an interview. the girl that he arrested was not hurt during the arrest. she faces a charge of disturbing schools. chris? >> all right, jason, appreciate it. one of the reasons this matters,
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as you may know, there's actually a push to have more police officers involved in schools, because of what we fear about mass shootings. so it's important to take a look at how it works and how it doesn't. let's take a look at it again right now with harry houck, cnn analyst and former nypd detective. live from dallas, mark lamont hills, a professor at morehouse college. good to have you both here. let's look at it again, because everything is going to grow out of what actually happens. he is called to the classroom, he is already in the school. we'll talk about why you would have him called to a classroom and what should really be done, but here's what happens. let's take a look at it. he comes in. we know there is a "get out of the chair or i take you out of the chair," we know there is resistance to that suggestion and then this ensues is, okay? so that's this part. then there's this part, what happens at the end of this
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necessary or unnecessary taking from the chair. >> get your hands behind your back. give me your hands. give me your hands. give me your hands. >> there's nobody getting -- >> all right, give me your hands, give me your hands, give me your hands. has the knee on the back and taking her down as you would any really violent assailant that you would after you chase them through the streets. so we have general issues, what happens when you have a cop, what's going on in these schools with discipline. all true, true, true. but start with this specific. give me the best defense for what this guy is doing in these circumstances. >> first of all, let me tell you, there's a police officer in that school for a reason. a lot of violent gang activity in that school, all right? now, this officer's called to the classroom because this student will not leave the
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classroom. apparently the teacher had some kind of a problem. now, a teacher is supposedly trained on how to handle children like this, calls the police, for the officer to come in. the officer tells her twice to get out of the chair. she won't get out of the chair, all right? therefore, we have this altercation, which she does not get really hurt in. the officer pulls her out, huffs her, all right, and that's it. can the officer do that? yes, he can do that. >> why? >> because you failed to comply. you are under arrest, you're failing to comply now. the officer can use whatever force is necessary to affect an arrest. now, it looks really bad. like, a lot of videos we've sat here and talkedabout before in the past, how bad the video looks. she did not get hurt, all right. so apparently the officer did it in a way where she could not get hurt. it just looks bad in the video. >> harry, if you get called to this classroom and this kid says i'm not getting out of the chair, i'm not doing it. >> you pull her out of the chair. >> and as you pull -- >> you asked her twice.
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>> and she's not letting go, what do you do? >> you pull her out of the chair -- >> like this? >> yes, exactly. that's exactly what you do. what are you supposed to do? stand around and wait for her to get out of the chair? >> no. mark, what do you do in this situation. you get called to the classroom, you're a police officer, the teacher says, i can't control this kid. you say, get out of the chair. she says, no. now what? >> well, before we get to the point where the police officer is called, chris, i think that's part of the problem that we have to analyze, right -- >> but that's the general bigger issue. i wanted to deal with this in the specific, first. >> in this specific instance, this child was criminalized when the police officer was called for classroom management. we're outsourcing classroom management to the police now. that is part of the problem in this case. not in the abstract or in the general, i'm saying in this case. >> i hear you, you've made that point before. but remember this. that's why you want to look at it in the specific and the general. when people see this video, they
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don't think policy. they think, how was this necessary in this circumstance? so when you see this and you hear what harry is saying and you've gotten to know harry. you understand it's always coming from a place of reality, when you see how the officer addresses the specific, what do you see as the criticism? >> the fact -- how quickly he went from 0 to 60 in terms of the use of force, the type of force that was used. for example, and i don't support any use of force against this child, but for example, what would be the difference between grabbing the desk and pulling the desk force and physically taking the child, slamming her to the ground and putting his knee in her back. and to say, it wasn't that bad because she wasn't hurt, that's unreasonable. that's not to say whether use of force was reasonable or not in a classroom. >> why didn't he just take the desk out? >> it's just failure to comply. in all these cases, people don't listen to the police when they're given a command.
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you must comply. marc's giving people the impression you don't have to comply to police officers. that's why we're having a lot of incidents. you're giving that impression, every time i speak to you. you always have a problem, you know, talking about an officer's use of force. i'm telling the you, it's a result of a failure to comply. if she got out of the seat when she was told, there wouldn't be a problem. but apparently she had no respect for the school, probably has no respect for her teacher, probably has no respect at home or on the street, and that's why she acted the way she did. >> let's take this to the most extreme example. what if he had shot and killed her -- >> he didn't shoot and kill her. >> that's why it's an example. just listen for ten seconds. >> it's a lousy example. >> all right, all right. he's taking to it the extreme to see if it makes more sense that way. >> so if you were to shoot and kill her, we would, of course, say, that's too much. you couldn't just say, well, she didn't comply, so whatever
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happens happened. so there's a limit to what a police officer can do if someone doesn't comply. would punching her be too much? of course. i'm saying if we take it down to dragging her out of a chair and choke slamming her like a pro wrestler, that is also too much. there are other things between talking nicely and sweetly and slamming someone to a the ground that a police officer can do. lastly, i disagree with the premise that with what i began with was unnecessary for th conversation. i'm saying everybody here is complicit in terms of the school. not just the officer, but the teacher who thinks it's necessary and a system who think it's necessary for police officers to to handle classroom discipline. >> now we get to this and we end this part of this conversation. we'll keep talking about this, yes, maybe you can make a very good argument that a cop in the school makes the school safer, if there's a mass shooter, if
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there's something deranged, if there is prolific gang activity, cops are cops, teachers are not cops. but the idea that this is not a gang breakout in the middle of class, right? where there's blue and red. this lady says, you better shut up, when i talk to you. when i ask you where your homework -- because the school's not telling us what happened. and believe me, that's not a coincidence. why would you use a police officer like this in a educational environment. >> i don't like. a police officer should not be used to discipline children in school. the fact that if i was a police, i would not have done it this way, let's say. if i was the officer that responded to this, i would have within the to the principal and said, did that child commit a crime? if they had committed a crime, i'll take action. >> no, she won't listen to me. >> now, if you tell me that's not a crime, i would say, i'm not going in there, see you later, good-bye. this is not a police incident. but now the school, they're turning around, they're against
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the officer. they're the ones who called them in. they're the ones who are supposed to know how to handle these kids. we're police officers. we know how to handle crime. we get called into a certain situation, we're going to react a certain way, all right? and that school shooting, but they didn't want to be the bad guy. they wanted the cop to be the bad guy. and that's why this happened. >> there's also the option of not acting a certain way, right? we could make different choices about how we intervene in classrooms. >> you're not a cop, marc. you've never faced anything like this on the street, okay? >> and you've never been a classroom, and i have. >> right. >> so we both can speak from respective circumstances. but as a citizen, as a father, as a reasonable person, i'm saying that that child didn't need to be slammed and choekd. and just because you don't comply with police officer's instructions should not open you up to the full range of violent possibilities of the state of law enforcement. there have to be better choices. >> the reality is, to sum up this part of it, once you create
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the dynamic of adversarial relations with a cop, we know which way it's going to go. never ends well. but this was a student, this was in a classroom, this was in a different context, that's why we need to have the conversation. professor hill, thank you very much. don't look at me like that. >> thank you, host, chris. >> we'll keep this conversation coming up. coming up in our 8:00 hour, we'll talk to victoria middleton, she's the executive director of the aclu of south carolina. we'll get her perspective on this. >> okay, chris. break overnight, news to tell you about, house republican leader striking a budget deal with the white house to avert a government shutdown. cnn's michelle kosinski joins us live from the white house to tell us about the deal. >> reporter: this is the budget, the important thing no one wants to hear about until it affects the things you like. before anybody's eyes glaze over, this is made all the more important now, because the u.s. could default on its debt in a matter of days. and a few weeks later, the
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government could shut down when funding runs out. republicans don't want to raise the debt limit or fund what they have already spent unless there are cuts to offset it. and democrats in the white house don't want to cut certain things and they done want to keep the government at those stick sequester spending limits. but now, republicans and democrats, in the house and senate, seem to have come together to craft that most endangered of washington creatures, the compromise. this would be a two-year plan. it would raise the debt limit. it would liftsomespendingcaps on both defense and domestic spending. and it would offset that with things like spending or selling some of the strategic petroleum reserves. there are expected to be some changes to social security and medicare. and the sequester limits do stay in effect for th next ten years. so any raises in spending as part of this plan are seen as temporary. this isn't a done deal yet, but we could see something come to a vote as soon as wednesday.
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mikalah? >> stick with cnn, we'll watch that with you. michelle, thanks so much. well, donald trump is feeling the heat in iowa. a new monmouth university poll showing dr. ben carson expanding his lead over donald trump by double digits. joe john is tracking this big turnaround for us. >> reporter: good morning. the latest monmouth rp university poll shows dr. ben carson out to a double-digit lead in the race for the nomination in the first of the nation state of iowa. the poll showing trump trailing at 18%. a substantial shift from the last time the poll was taken in august. at that time, the top two candidates were just about in a dead heat. the second-tier candidates in the monmouth poll shows republican senators ted cruz and marco rubio tied at ten a piece and former florida governor jeb bush just a couple clicks behind at 8%. also a big dip in the poll for the only woman in the race, for
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the republican nomination, carly fiorina. so what is the reason for ben carson's surprising showing? the poll suggests evangelical christians, as we knew, in iowa, continue to throw their support behind him, and support for trump, in that very same group, appears to have dipped just a bit. but if you look a little closer, carson has also picked up even more support among non-evangelical republicans, as well, even among liberal and moderate republicans, showing a 17-point lead for dr. ben carson in the state of iowa. it's certainly not all bad news for trump. he does appear to be doing much better in polls in the first of the nation primary state of new hampshire, where he appeared monday. so we still got a long way to go. chris, back to you. >> true, joe, you know, it smells like organizing on the ground must be the difference, but we know that is not dr. ben
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carson's strategy, he's much more online than he is on the ground, so we'll figure it out in our next segment. we also have breaking news for you this morning. a warning from china after a u.s. navy destroyer sails within 12 nautical miles of this artificial island in these contested waters off the south china sea. china calls the maneuver illegal, but the u.s. not so sure. cnn's will ripley is live at the yokosacca naval base in japan with the latest. what is the warning? >> the warning is simple. china says if the united states continues to do these freedom of navigation patrols, which the u.s. says are compliant with international law, even though china says they're illegal, china is even promising to perhaps build up their infrastructure on these man-made islands even further. now, the "uss lawson," which is actually based at this naval base here where i am, it was headed towards these domestic disputed islands in the south china sea. take a look at these satellite
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images. the chinese essentially beat them up over coral reefs. there's an airstrip, there's docking ports. and these are concerning, because some have actually called them unsinkable aircraft carriers, if china did decide to militaryize and put military hardware in this area. you can see the location. it's a strategic location, it's a vital economic trade route with trillions of dollars of trade passing through every year. 600 miles from mainland china, yet the chinese military is a regular presence there, as cnn's jim sciutto found out flying over these artificial islands, listen to the warning the chinese gave. >> . >> very harsh words from the chinese foreign ministry saying, if relevant parties insist on making trouble out of nothing,
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it may force china to draw the conclusion that we need to strengthen and hasten the buildup of our relevant capabilities. i advise the u.s. not to create such a self-fulfilling prophesy. allison? >> will, thanks so much for explaining that. another story about mounting tension. in a sign of frustration with the war on isis, "the washington post" reporting that president obama and his national security, his senior advisers, are considering a plan to move u.s. troops closer to the front lines in syria and iraq. the action would put boots on the ground in syria for the first time. and also positions u.s. advisers closer to the combat zones. this move would require formal approval from president obama and could come as earlier as this week. 25-year-old adacia chambers who allegedly plowed her car into spectators at the oklahoma state university homecoming parade, she's being held on $1 million bail. she faces four counts of
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second-degree murder. court documents reveal that chambers told investigators she had attempted suicide several times and was suicidal at the time of the crash. a judge has now ordered a psychiatric evaluation. well, with his poll numbers sinking and his staff salaries being slashed, what is jeb bush to do? he's huddling in houston with family members. he's hoping to refocus his troubled campaign. we have the inside scoop on what happened during that meeting and his new plan. thank you for calling. we'll be with you shortly. yeah right... xerox predictive analytics help companies provide a better and faster customer experience. hello mr. kent. can i rebook your flight? i'm here! customer care can work better. with xerox. wait i'm here! mr. kent? (gasp) shark diving! xerox personalized employee portals help companies make benefits simple and accessible... from anywhere.
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a little bit of breaking news to tell you about because there's been a breakthrough bipartisan budget deal that was reached on capitol hill. congress tentatively avoiding a government shutdown in the process. but many republicans are furious. we also have lots of campaign news to discuss. let's bring in cnn's senior political analyst and editorial director for the national journal, ron brownstein, and political anchor, errol lewis. gentleman, great to have you.
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ron, what are day doing? they passed it before the 11th hour. normally they wait until midnight the night before it expires. >> this is that mythical unicorn washington beast. a reasonable, pretty reasonable bipartisan compromise that will raise the debt ceiling, eliminate the threat of a government shutdown, make concessions to both sides, probably pass with a center-out coalition in each house. and also, along the way, kind of generationally rebalance the federal budget in the sense of constraining entitlements to put some more money into the discretionary spending that goes more towards young people and the productivity of future generations. so all in all, kind of a striking final act by john boehner. worth noting, nine times before, he has violated the hastert rules, both hastert rules in past bills, that a majority of republicans oppose. this might be the at any time, but they might also get a majority in both parties, in both chambers for this legislation. >> ironic, that which helped push him out is what wound up bringing him together. it shows the need for compromise and to avoid brinksmanship.
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however, let's go to what's making the gop upset. part of it is fallacy, part of it is fact. the fallacy is, when you keep raising this debt ceiling, it makes us seem like we're weak and ending too much money. that's fallacy. raising the debt ceiling has nothing to do with how much you can spend, it's how much you've already spent. >> but they have added new spending into this one. >> but that has nothing toot with the debt ceiling. >> they've shifted some in the domestic programs and increased the military spending and there's a special war budget, which is for entirely separate reasons, a little disturbing. but they're making clear that they want to sort of move forward. i think what's key here is that a lot of this was negotiated by staff members. you know, when you take the politicians out of the room, it's amazing what can get done. they said that the legislative leaders and the president did not meet, you know, and those have been sort of tense meetings in the past. so you can actually get some of this stuff done and it is, in part, i think a reputation of this notion that washington never works, washington can't work.
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washington apparently can work. >> all right, let's talk about the campaign trail, shall we, speaking of working. ben carson in the third poll now, in iowa, has leapfrogged over donald trump. this is the monmouth university poll. it was out yesterday. ben carson is now at 32%, up from 23% just in august and donald trump is at 18%. in other words, a 14-point lead for ben carson. also, while we're out it, rubio has also doubled his support. what do you see here, ron? >> first of all, the winner of evangelicals usually wins the iowa republican caucus. they're almost 60% of the vote. rick santorum in 2012, mike huckabee in 2008, they won evangelicals, they lost non-evangelicals, which foreshadowed the problems they had growing into full-scale candidates. but in each case, they won evangelicals and that was enough to win iowa. this is the first poll showing carson not only winning evangelicals, but winning non-evangelicals. >> that is significant. the non-evangelicals, carson gets 28% to trump's 19. >> other surveys have not found
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this, so we'll have to see if this is a real development. but carson has the ability to consolidate evangelical support and be a very formidable opponent in iowa. i think he has challenges. 60% of voters in 2012 were over 50. this is an older electorate. and you'll see trump going at carson from the right on entitlements and from the left on other things. >> who was the last person to win iowa and also win the nomination and the election? >> george w. bush. >> it's a very long time ago. it's not a guarantee of success, but a good step for a guy who nobody expected to be taking a step like this. now he's getting the deeper scrutiny, which ron is referring to. the idea of shifting your position on something like medicare. his answer to our friend chris wallace on fox on sunday was, hey, i'm not a politician. don't judge me by my ability to
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change once i start to talk to people who know what i'm talking about and change my mind. is that enough? >> it's a reasonable thing to say if you're not a politician. but i think it really sort of spotlights the fact you have this dual republican primary going on. you've got the outsiders and the insiders. the outsiders can fall back on that and say, well, i'm not really a politician. >> but is that a leadership vision thing? >> i think it's a convenient excuse that professional politicians never try -- or try never to resort to. what a professional politician will say, i thought this through, i'm going to be consistent, i have some principles, i have a track record, i don't mind being examined, you know, as faras where that track record will take me. and if you're brand-new to this game, if you're carson or trump, you don't have to do any of that stuff. and the voters will have to decide which style of leadership they actually prefer. >> i want to get to jeb bush. jeb bush has had this retreat
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with his donors and supporters and family and a lot has come out about what's gone on there. but what he talked about was the difference between himself and marco rubio. and in fact, they put up a power point presentation, because nothing says fresh and new like powerpoint presentations, about how marco rubio is really just a gop obama. let me read to what bush told his supporters. marco has not received a single endorsement for a fellow u.s. senator. governor bush has been endorsed by three of them, as well as 20 house members. but he's saying that marco rubio has a strikingly similar profile to obama, first-term senators, lawyers and university lecturers, had few legislative accomplishments, hasn't shown much interest in the process of advancing legislation and getting results. ron, this fired up his supporters, we're told, by people in the room. >> first of all, nothing says fresh and new like retreat to advance, also. that's the other part of it. look, this is a reality, as errol said.
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this is a reflection of the fact that there really are two republican races going on. i would phrase it differently than insider/outsider. you have donald trump, ben carson, ted cruz and some of the others appealing to that conservative, mostly blue-collar vote. and you have a group which is bush, rubio at the top, kasich and christie a little behind, who are competing for that more white vote and centered more on new hampshire. it was almost inevitable that the mentor and the protege would collide in the way we're increasingly seeing. >> errol, ron, we have to leave it there. thanks so much, guys. great to talk to you. michaela? >> i was doing my best pitch impersonation, first base, second base. didn't work so well. we are less than 13 hours away from the first pitch of what many hope will be a classic fall classic. we have your update between the mets and the royals, a preview, ahead #
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. outrage in south carolina and beyond after this video surfaces of a white police officer violently throwing a black female student from her desk. take a look as the teenager is tossed several feet across the classroom. then she is placed under arrest. sheriff's deputy ben fields is heard on that video making threats after the young girl refuses to comply with his orders. officer fields has been placed on administrative leave pending an investigation. the white house and congressional republicans striking a budget deal, staving off a government shutdown and potential default. the deal raises the debt limit through march 2017 and also raises domestic and defense spending by $80 billion. the house could vote as early as wednesday. the royal red carpet rolled out for the london premiere of the latest james bond film " "specter." william and kate and prince
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harry were on hand. it's the fourth and possibly last for current 007 star daniel craig. "specter" opens stateside november 6th. >> he's so dreamy. did i say that out loud. i'm sorry. that was unprofessional. >> your internal dialogue. world series time. the new york mets and kansas city royals open the fall classic tonight in kc. good ribs. both teams equally hungry for world series title. the royals last won one in '85. those were the george brett. andy scholes has a preview. what have you got? >> with the pitching staff the mets have, i can't see them losing this series. i'll go new york in five. the big question coming into tonight's game is what inning will mets' second baseman daniel murphy hit a home run? he's homered in a record six straight post-season games.
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he's one shy of the all-time record. murphy's a guy that's never hit more than 14 home runs in an entire season and he can't -- he says he can't even explain where this recent power surge is coming from, but he's very excited to be playing in his ferris world series. take a listen. >> when you're growing up, in october, you see the world series, and always imagine yourself there. so to be able to make it is definitely very exciting. >> from some veteran guys to the rookies. they say, it's a cool place, never been here. man, we're in the world series. and you know, it strikes home. and it's what it's all about. >> the game between the mets and royals tonight at 8:00 eastern. new york going with matt harvey on the ground in game one. the royals countering with edson vulces. las vegas has it as a pick 'em. and as you said earlier, neither time has won a world series in nearly 30 years. at least one of these fan bases will be very happy when this thing is all said and done.
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president obama and his national security advisers considering a plan to ramp up the war on isis by putting u.s. troops on the front lines in iraq and syria. according to the "washington post," a decision could come as early as this week. meanwhile, kurdish fighters in syria already working to push isis out of their territory in northern syria.
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cnn's senior international correspondent clarissa ward has been on the front lines in northeast syria. she joins us live from erbil, iraq. clarissa, welcome to cnn and to "new day." it's great to see you. el us what you've been seeing out there. >> reporter: thank you so much and good morning to you, alysin. a few weeks ago, the u.s. dropped 50 tons of ammunition to a new coalition of kurdish fighters who are fighting isis on the ground inside syria. we spent time on the front lines with the pain group in that coalition, the kurdish ypg, and they told us they are going to need a lot more than that. these men are at the core of america's latest strategy to defeat isis. manning positions along a vast and desolate front line, with isis entrenched in villages just through the haze. they're fighters with the ypg, a force of roughly 30,000 syrian
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kurds, which backed by coalition air power, have dealt divisive blows to militants across syria. commander bahoos is in front of this front line position in the city of haska, which the ypg took from isis after months of fierce clashes. >> they tried to attack us again ten days ago. we weren prepared, so they didnt reach their target. >> reporter: but they keep trying. isis has control of the next village along, which is just over a mile in that direction. but the men at this base tell us the isis fighters often go at night to that building just over there, so they can launch attacks on these positions. the u.s. hopes the ypg will soon move from defense to offense, taking the fight to isis' stronghold in raqqa, but at makeshift bases across the front line, the fighters we saw were lightly armed, poorly equipped and exhausted by months of
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fight. and senior commander la wand knows the battles ahead will be even tougher. >> can you take raqqa without heavier weapons from the coalition? >> translator: the weapons we have are not high-quality. so this campaign will need new, heavy weapons. >> the most important weapon they do have but don't want to talk about is this device, which helps the ypg get exact coordinates for enemy positions. those coordinates are sent to a joint u.s. kurdish operations room and minutes later, fighter jets come screaming in. he told us he was given a week of training before using the device. who trained you how to use this? >> translator: believe me, i can't say. when you finish the training, it's a secret, but they weren't speaking kurdish.
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>> a mystery, as is so much of the unfolding u.s. strategy in this critical corner of syria. >> reporter: the main reason the u.s. is being so circumspect about its support of the ypg is because the group vz very close relations with its turkish counterpart, the pkk. that is considered to be a terrorist organization. alysin? >> what a vantage point you've given us back here. can you comment on this "washington post" article saying that president obama and his top advisers are considering putting u.s. troops on the front lines in syria? >> well, certainly, that would be a pretty dramatic move. while the u.s. has been supporting with these air drops and through air support, there certainly is no u.s. presence on the ground in syria. there is a significant one here in iraq, but really, this would be the kind of dramatic step that would be needed to take this battle forward, if the u.s. really is serious about getting the ypg to take on a defensive
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against isis in its stronghold, it will need this kind of a dramatic gesture, this kind of a momentum. for the moment, those front lines are really pretty static and there isn't the ability or even really the will on the part of the ypg to push forward and take on those isis strongholds. >> one last thing. obviously all the crisis in syria has spawned this refugee crisis. what's the latest with that? >> reporter: well, it was so dramatic to see when we were driving through northern syria that there are entire villages that are completely deserted. the roads are empty. hundreds of thousands of people have been displaced from their homes in this small corner. it's impossible to say if they left because of isis who have been planting booby traps and land mines in all the areas they've retreated from or if they left because of the coalition air strikes which have flattened certain areas.
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but they are part of the nearly 50% of the syrian population that is no longer living in their homes. >> what a staggering number. clarissa ward, thank you for that and great to have you onboard. let's get it over to michaela. we'll talk about this world health organization organizatre says eating processed moo meats like bacon and other things can raise your risk of getting colon cancer. how much is too much? we'll break it down, next. ththe more i want to go back.e,
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all right. you've seen the headlines. bacon can cause cancer. the world health organization releasing its new guidelines for processed and red meat, saying 50 grams a day will increase cancer risks by 18%. sounds alarming. what does it really mean? dr. clifford hut is here, an oncologist and chief of breast
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medicine at memorial sloan-kettering hospital. good to have you. we have props today, the report is that a serving of one of these, a hot dog, ham, or two pieces of bacon, if you ate that every day, would increase your chance of colon cancer by 18%. where do you stand on this? does it seem like sound science to you? >> so there are many factors here. first of all, we know from lots of experiments that the way we process meat, what's in it, and food in general can add cancer risks. this is not really new. and some of the biology has been explore for years, by very skilled scientists. on the other hand, this 18% risk, this 18% increase in risk, this is a pretty modest increase in risk for factors we think about. for example, in the science world, we don't really get that excited about risk factors from these kinds of studies normally, until we're doubling the risk or more. think about the cigarettes and tobacco. they take up your risk of lung
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cancer eight fold or more. >> so why sound the alarm, then? >> because across the world -- >> yeah, michaela. why sound the alarm? >> he's mad because of the bacon. >> because we're talking about 7 plus billion people on earth. we're talking about a modifiable risk factor for cancer. and the truth factor for me, this is the edge of a bigger issue. the big problem right now that we face across the whole world is rising rates of obesity. and obesity is scheduled, if we can say such a thing, to replace tobacco as the leading modifiable risk factor for cancer, at least in western countries in the next few years. >> but back to the meat, so i know what to serve my kids this weekend, is it all meat or processed meat? >> for this report, it's about processed meat. but i actually think you're going to see the higher-calorie foods, higher-fat foods, all of these are contributing indirectly if not directly to the cancer problem, because of the link through obesity. >> so when we say "processed,"
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that's a key component here also. what does that mean? smoked? >> in this case, we're referring to smoked meats and salting of meats. by the way, salting of foods has been a known cancer risk for going back more than a century. japanese diet with lots of salted fish was famously associated with gastric cancer decades earlier. >> was this report also includes red meat, specifically. let me ask you. we've been smoking and curing meat since time immoreium. is all processed meat created equal if if you're smoking it at home? >> you're touching on one of the great public health advances of the last century. the refrigerator. we called it the frigid air effect. when the electric refrigerator came out in the last century, rates of gastric cancer in the united states fell precipitously. because we didn't salt. >> so how much meat or processed meat can we eat a week without
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increasing our cancer risk? >> i'm not certain there's a number for that. the 50 grams that they described per day is associated with an 18% increase in risk, but likely, as you use the amount, you use the elevation in risk, but i'm not sure you can get to zero unless you go to zero. >> a hot dog is 50 grams? >> you would have to weigh them, each one. >> so somebody at home will say, we'll switch over to turkey bacon instead of regular bacon, still problem, essentially, because it would still be cure kd meat, correct? >> maybe, maybe not. this report addressed red meat and this processing and this particular product. >> smoked tofu. i'm just trying. >> presumably less risk. >> presumably less risk. >> what are we supposed to do with this? >> i think this brings us back to where we started. an 18% increase in risk is a small increase in risk in public health circles. so, fundamentally, the argument really is, why do we eat meat? the only reason some people eat meat is it tastes good. that's a personal choice. this is not the riskiest thing
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most of us are doing. it's more important, in my opinion, to focus on a calorie-restricted diet, increased exercise, healthier energy balance. these are the things in the long run that will limit our cancer risk. >> a good word from the good doctor. you can still have some ham, dear, just once in a while. >> what's your take, get in and c conversate with us. and i did say "conversate." there is a lot of news for you so let's get right to it. >> put your hands behind your back! >> the officer had an opportunity to de-escalate the situation and he didn't. >> what are you supposed to do? stand around and wait for them to get out of the chair? >> i'm a parent and i'm ashameded of what i saw. >> what could have led up to that? ben carson officially knocked trump from his perch in iowa. >> ben carson seems to be a much
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more credible messenger. >> carson is lower energy than bush! >> i have plenty of energy. >> one of the top halloween costumes this year is donald trump. which is why this year the phrase trick or treat has been replaced with give me a kit kat or i'll deport you. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, allison camarata, and michaela pereira. up first an new strategy to take out isis. president obama and his national security advisers considering moving u.s. troops closer to the front lines in syria and iraq. this is according to a new report in "the washington post". >> they say a recharged plan is in order, but do americans have the stomach for military consolidation? u.s. boots on the ground. but this is in the context of tensions between not only isis and the u.s., but the u.s. and china after an american naval destroyer sails within miles of these islands claimed by beijing in the south china sea. we have live team coverage of
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these developing stories. let's begin with cnn's pentagon correspondent, barbara starr. good morning, barbara. >> good morning, chris. well, we had a hint of this last week, perhaps, when defense secretary ash carter told everyone here at the pentagon in a press conference to expect more raids, such as the one we saw last week, where delta force paired up with the kurds, sadly, master sergeant joshua wheeler lost his life in that raid, raising the question, are u.s. troops now in combat, if not in a total combat mission? many officials at the pentagon are talking about these reports, talking about turning up the heat in iraq, in syria, but this would be a massive step forward. it would raise the possibility of u.s. troops on the ground, in a potential combat role, because they would be helping syrian and iraqi forces, possibly calling in air strikes, possibly more advise and assist. that could put them in combat with isis. last week's events make that very clear. defense secretary carter, the
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chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general joe dunford on capitol hill later this morning. expect them to get grilled about all of this. by all accounts, no decisions have been made. it will be up to president obama to decide whether he wants to take the military to this next step. >> okay, barbara, please keep us posted as you talk to your sources there. meanwhile, the u.s. leveling a potential challenge to china in the contested waters of the south china sea. an american destroyer passing within 12 nautical miles of those artificial islands that are built by china. official in beijing calling the maneuver quote illegal. cnn's chief national security correspondent jim sciutto is live for us in washington. what do we know, jim? >> well, the u.s. would like to make these trips routine to demonstrate that in their view, these are not chinese waters, these are international waters. those man-made islands are not territory, they are illegal. but they're seen as anything but
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routine by china, as the equivalent of sailing with a chinese naval ship within 12 miles of new york city in their point of view. you had an angry reaction today. this is the second time this year the u.s. has delivered a message like this. you may remember in may when you were in a spy plane, these pictures are from that trip over those islands to demonstrate from the u.s. perspective that the air space over those islands is international as well. and i'll tell you, the bridge of that u.s. navy warship is likely to have gotten a warning like we got in the cockpit of that uspa know sigh don spy plane. listen to what he wiwe heard th. >> that very much demonstration of how china sees these islands as their own. i'll tell you today, i've seen a lot of messages from the chinese foreign ministry from beijing
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usually parsing words, but their reaction today did not parse words. here's what the chinese foreign ministry had to say in reaction to that ship sailing within those 12 miles. if relevant parties insist on making trouble out of nothing, it may force china to draw the conclusion we need to strengthen and hasten the buildup of our relevant capabilities. i advise the u.s. not to create such a self-fulfilling prophesy. china there saying in effect, they may have to militaryize these islands more in response to the u.s. action. it's a real serious disagreement and one clearly that president obama and president xi could not reach agreement in during their summit meeting just a couple of weeks ago in washington. breaking overnight, white house and congressional budget negotiators striking a tentative two-year budget deal that would stave off a government shutdown. cnn's michelle kosinski live at the white house for us. big question, how will it be perceived? >> reporter: right. it's the budget. but lest you think this is a
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perfect time to go grab a cup of coffee or take a nap, this is made all the more dramatic by the fact that the u.s. is on track to default on its debt in a matter of days. a couple of weeks later, the government could shut down again when funding runs out. but suddenly along comes, yes, a compromise. in washington. in congress. on the one hand, republicans don't want to raise the debt limit or fund what the government has already spent, unless there are some cuts elsewhere to offset that spending. and then you have democrats in the white house who don't want to cut certain things, who don't want to keep america at those strict sequester spending limits. here is what we came up with. it's a two-year plan. it does raise the debt limit. it does raise caps on spending for defense and domestic programs, but it offsets them with things like selling some of the strategic petroleum reserves. some changes to social security and medicare. and overall, these sequeser limits do stay in effect for ten years. so not everybody loves this, but
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it is a compromise and it's expected to be voted on very soon. back to you guys. >> michelle kosinski, thank you very much. so ben carson has a double-digit lead over donald trump in iowa. here are the numbers from the latest poll. carson 32% to trump's 18. they've basically swapped positions. what is fueling this surge and will carson eventually have to take the dwlogloves and off and start fighting back? let's bring in armstrong williams. good to have you here. another number that is very important, before the haters take bait, they will say, well, this is just evangelical. dr. ben carson, you know, he's known as a faith man, but look at this number. non-evangelicals. moderate voters, take a look at that number. put the poll up. there it is. this is among non-evangelical iowa republicans, okay? there are your numbers. now, you, of course, are not surprised by the doctor's reach beyond those who are
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evangelical, but how would you explain it? >> first, good morning, and thank you again for having me. listen, chris, it's simple, dr. carson stays on message. dr. carson has a calming effect when he talks to people. he explains in great detail his policies when he's not on the debate stage. he connects with voter, that connect with his personal story. his temperament is unmatched. his discipline. and the fact is, he's very respectful. dr. carson does not go out and when he finds himself behind in the polls, when he's being criticized in the media or being challenged, he does not pitch adult tantrums. he doesn't get very personal, as if it's his job to always lead. i think what you can really learn about a person's character is when they're not at the top. when they're not in first place, what they become. and what dr. carson has realized is that this is a roller coaster. it's up and down. mr. trump may be up this week,
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dr. carson may be down next week. these polls change. you also don't underestimate the bushes, the rubios, the cruz and others that give their time and their resources and their commitment to this country and try to make it better. you value them, you empower them, you uplift them. you don't divide the republican party because of personal attacks. it's just not the american way. mr. trump has all these capabilities. it's an incredible american success story. but unfortunately, he just doesn't have the discipline to show respect, to show mutual administration for someone else's accomplishment. it's sometimes as if he's the only person that should be running. i hate to be so candid about it, but this guy is so gifted, he has so much going for him, but you know, the problem is his temperament. he lashes out and people see it as a tantrum by an adult and americans are becoming turned off with it and dr. carson continues to grow and he would never get in the mud pit with mr. trump. it's just not his style. because he's so busy focusing on his message.
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>> so i have one question for you on that and i have two points of policy pushback. soy understand from folks who are close to dr. ben carson that he sees volume as weakness in people. that when asked to explain why his demeanor is more quiet, that maybe he has to pump it up to show that he has the energy. he says, no, no, no, strength is often being measured in tone. that when someone's loud, the louder they have to make the point, the less they believe it. that true? >> listen, chris. i think this is something you and i can agree on. when you have been a pediatric neural surgeon for over 30 years and your calmness and your gentleness and your listening saves lives or prevents people from life-long injuries, that's just who he is. that's his character. in time, circumstances, this campaign trail reveals your character. that's who he is. he can't be anybody else but that calm, gentle, low voice,
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but it doesn't mean he's weak. he has the common strength, he has the discipline, and he has the judgment to understand that sometimes you don't have to be the loudest person in the room to be heard. >> so, there's a cbs poll that just dropped while you were answering that question. 26-22, carson is up everywhere, not just in iowa. with this elevation of status will come elevation in scrutiny. two points of pushback for you to respond to. one, evangelicals in iowa may be embracing dr. carson because of his faith. is it fair criticism to look at dr. carson's faith being seventh day aventis, how it may oppose evangelicals. there is a belief within the strictest tenants of seventh day adventist beliefs that evangelicals and others will be going to hell. is that a fair criticism? >> with dr. carson's interview with a malika henderson,
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obviously he does not embrace that. cnn has done this story. we get so caught up in these denominations, that one is better than the other, but what matters is a person's moral compass. what matters is their character. are they honest and trustworthy? if you look at the polls, dr. carson's ratings are off the charts, chris. they like him and believe him. so this is what faith should be about. it's not whether you're better than someone else. it's about whether you embrace the tenants of being a good human being, being a decent human being, and whether your word means anything. and whether you have the humility if you make a mistake, if you misstate something, you're willing to apologize. and whether you're willing to surround yourself those who know more about you on foreign policy or about the economy, so you can grow together. because like dr. carson says, in a multitude of counselors, you will find wisdom and the answers to move this country forward. >> one more. on medicare, dr. ben carson had said earlier on, earlier this year, last may, that medicare
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should be gone and replaced with a voucher system. he now says he doesn't want to do that. maybe it will be an option. a plan is coming out. if he wants to be president of the united states, does he have to hold true to positions and not go back and forth, as he feels his way? >> chris, i hope not. i hope that dr. carson in his vacuum, when he was director of pediatric neurosurgery and everything was about being there at the hospital and the culture of the hospital that he's willing to step out and see there's a real world. and he talked to other experts and get other perspectives, he may see flaws in his own ideas. i think one of the things that you want in a leader that no matter how much you've invested in your ideas and your policies, if you find something that is truth and something that takes you to a place that really works and you're willing to abandon it, or at least incorporate those ideas to make the plan better. it is all about what works for the people. it doesn't necessarily mean that
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dr. carson has all the right ideas in the beginning, but he's willing to surround himself with the right kind of thinkers and experts who can help him get to that point. that's a good thing that dr. carson is willing to abandon, at least step back and say, maybe i was wrong, let's re-evaluate. >> dr. armstrong, thank you for being on the show. we want to test the issues on this show throughout the rest of the campaign. please extend our invitation. good to see you here. >> thank you. one of our top stories this morning, we have to show you this disturbing classroom cell phone video. it is sparking outrage nationwide. it shows an encounter between a white school police officer and a black female student. the young girl thrown from her desk and arrested after defying the officer's order to stand up. cnn's national correspondent jason carroll joins us with the very latest. what do we know, jason? >> reporter: still a lot of questions about what exactly happened before the arrest, but one thing is clear to the students who were there in the classroom. moments after that officer
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entered the classroom, it escalated to a disturbing point. >> either you're going to come with me or i'm going to make you. >> reporter: south carolina school police officer ben fields seen here is on administrative leave this morning after his violent takedown of a high school student was caught on camera monday afternoon. you can see the sheriff's deputy tossing a female student to the ground after she refused to get up from her desk and then throwing her across the classroom floor. >> give me your hands. give me your hands. >> we don't want everyone to rush to judgment, but also feel that the video was very, very disturbing. >> according to police, the richland county student was asked to leave the classroom. when she refused, fields was called in to arrest her for disturbing class. school officials say the video is, quote, extremely disturbing and has banned the deputy from all district schools pending an investigation.
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the sheriff's department, who's also looking into the matter, says it's ill unclear what happened before the camera started rolling. >> we have to look at this in its totality to understand exactly what happened. is this a pattern? is this something that he's done before? >> reporter: the deputy has been the subject of two lawsuits in the last ten years. in 2007, a couple claimed he used excessive force in questioning them about a noise complaint. the husband says fields slammed him to the ground, cuffed him and began kicking him. the jury ruled in fields' favor in 2010. in 2013, a student claimed fields falsely accused the teen of being involved in a gang. the school expelling him. that lawsuit is ongoing. >> when you see a video like what we've seen earlier today, it certainly alarms you and makes you a little bit afraid of what is actually happening within our schools. >> reporter: the deputy has been working for the school district for seven years and was recently awarded the culture of excellence award in 2014, for
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proving to be what they say was an exceptional role model to the students. >> and that female student there was not injured durings the arrest. cnn has reached out to the officer in question. he has not responded to requests for an interview. >> oh, my gosh, so many questions, jason. thanks so much for that reporting. in our next hour, we will speak with victoria middleton, the executive director of the aclu of south carolina about what they want to do about this. by the end of the century, parts of the persian gulf could be uninhabitable by humans due to global warming. researchers say this affects coastal cities from dubai to iran's bandar abas and threatens other middle eastern locations, including the holy city of mecca. nobody puts chewbacca in handcuffs, until now. take a look. someone dressed like the "star wars" character taken into custody at a polling station in
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ukraine. chewie who was there to campaign for mayoral candidate darth vader. >> wait, what? >> yes, darth vader is a real candidate. but what chewbacca didn't know, it's illegal to campaign on election day. so he was hauled off in handcuffs. >> that's the problem. no that he's dressed as chewbacca. >> one of the things i've always admired about chewbacca is his fierce loyalty. >> and his political stance. >> took four officers. the funny thing is, it's all a costume. he was only like 5'5" inside that. >> stop! meanwhile, we have to show you something on the other side of this, which is deadly serious. a white police officer was in this confrontation with a black teenage student. it has sparked outrage nationwide. we will discuss what's behind this. actions. they speak louder.
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a developing story this morning. a violent classroom confrontation between a police officer and a female student. it was caught on cell phone video. and it raises questions about what police inside our classrooms are doing. our next guest is the author of "fergastand: the war on police." he's a former missouri state
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representative. mr. roorda, thank you so much for being here. i know you've had a chance to watch this cell phone video from this south carolina classroom. let's play it again so our viewers can see what happened when this school resource officer, in other words, a sheriff's deputy in the school, confronts a female teenager, asks her to get up from her desk. she doesn't instantly do it and she takes her to the ground. he yanks her to the front of the class and handcuffs her. is there any other way to interpret this video, mr. roorda, than excessive force by that deputy? >> well, it's not easy to watch and it's easy to be outraged by that snippet of video, but remember, that's all we're seeing here is a snippet of vid video. we don't know the whole story. the whole story may very well tell us what we suspect from watching that video, that the officer overreacted, but there is more information out there. there is the officer's report that he'll be writing, witness
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statements, the suspect's statement and whatever physical evidence. >> you're right, we don't know what preceded that moment. but we do know from our local affiliate there in south carolina that the teacher had for some reason asked her to leave the classroom and then the police officer, and we even hear him saying, "stand up" to her, which she's not doing. but we don't see her fighting back, don't see her being physical or violent. even if a high school student doesn't instantly comply with your orders, do you have to use force? couldn't he have talked to her? >> well, yeah, i don't know what preceded that. i don't know if there was some conversation between he and her before the video that we see. we don't know that she didn't pull away and fall over herself. it certainly looks like the officer is using a lot of force there. but sometimes these interactions can appear differently than they
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actually are. listen, i don't defend bad cops and what we see here is certainly questionable and ought to be questioned. we need answers as a community about what happened there, as we do in all these situations. >> you know, this video plays right into the very same narrative we heard the director of the fbi talking about yesterday. that is the so-called ferguson effect. that is that cell phone video is so ubiquitous now is it's actually having a chilling effect on police officers. they don't want to do their job because they may be caught on cell phone video because they may be caught doing something improper or that may be misinterpreted. let me play what the fbi director said about this. >> i spoke to officers who describes being surrounded by young people with mobile phones held high taunting them when they get out of their cars. they said to me, we feel under
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siege and don't feel much like getting out of our cars. >> are you seeing this? you seeing your police officers changing the way they do business because they're afraid of being caught on cell phone? >> i am, but i think director comey's point was larger than that. i think his point was the ferguson effect is more than just videos being taken. it's about the unwarranted criticism of law enforcement. the hyperscrutiny that they're under and how difficult policing has become in america and that there is a clear impact on violent crimes that has followed this phenomenon. >> but just to interrupt you, he's saying it appears that the hyperscrutiny that police officers are under is because there's been a series of things caught on cell phone video. without the cell phone video, we wouldn't be analyzing frame by frame exactly how they're acting in these situations.
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that's what started it. now they're under this hyperscrutiny. and are you seeing police officers not wanting to get out of the car and do their job because of this fear? >> well, the false narrative in ferguson about what happened between darren wilson and michael brown is what actually started this. but, yeah, the video certainly does have an effect. and police officers have known for a long time that with new technology, not just dashboard cams and body cams, but cell phones, where everybody has the able not some to videotape things, but to broadcast them to the world in a matter of seconds, that it has changed the world. not just the way cops do they job, but the way how people act in general has changed. >> but given that this is our new world, cell phone video isn't going away. what's the answer for police officers? >> the answer for police officers is the answer for our entire society. we have to take this video for what it's worth.
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i'm sure every one of your viewers have been watching a baseball game and has seen a bang-bang place at first base where they thought the runner was first when they first saw it and in a slo-mo replay from a different angle, they see the runner is out. we have to reserve judgment. i don't mean to excuse law enforcement when they do things wrong and they're captured on video, that's a good thing, because it cleans up the industry, but we shouldn't jump to conclusions. all right. dr. ben carson is leading donald trump for the first time in a brand-new national poll. what's happening to the donald? what's fueling carson's surge? we'll discuss it, next.
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breaking news. ben carson is surging ahead of donald trump for the first time, not just in iowa, in a national poll. a brand-new cbs/"new york times" poll giving carson a four-point lead. more importantly, quadrupling his support since august. let's discuss with cnn republican commentator and republican strategist, mr. kevin
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madden, and cnn republiccomment democratic adviser, paul baa begada. >> i think it's still too early to, you know, read from this poll that voters are starting to calcify their opinions for any one candidate. one of the things i saw in the poll is that voters are beginning to move towards making up their mind, but they're not yet firmly locked in. >> seven out of ten republicans say they are still undecided. that gives you a third within that indexing. those who have made up their mind for trump are more solid than those for carson. >> that's right. i think it shows that voters are still shopping around and they have moved from looking at donald trump to now looking at ben carson. in many ways, carson fits a better profile of the republican voter that is maybe evangelical
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or more conservative, particularly in many of these earlier primary states, as we see him leading in places like iowa. i think it's still a very fluid race, but ben carson is the one that voters are right now, that's where they're parked with. >> paul, this is big news. this new poll out half an hour ago is big news, because it is the first time in those three months that trump has been on top of a national poll that now ben carson has jumped over him. now, the margin of error is four points and carson is leading 26-22. so it's possible that they are tied. how big of a deal do you think this is? >> well, what's most phenomenal to me, actually, is how far the gap is between drchl carson and mr. trump, at the very top, both in the 20s in a multi-candidate race, that's a lot of power, and then you drop all the way down to marco rubio is at 8 and jeb bush is at 7. if you combine them, they still don't equal the second-place guy. >> how do you feel, kevin madden, if you are dr. ben carson and you have to feel some
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elation at the resonance within the polls, but then the reality hits you. tomorrow night you have a debate coming and you have a lot of people with hunger in their bellies, and they are looking right at you as political food. what do you think this is going to do to change the dynamic? >> i don't think many of these other candidates feel there's a lot to gain by attacking ben carson. he's a very likable personality and i think there could be some backlash there. i think drchl c. carson and his have a certain amount of elation, but there's the reality that it's only the end of october. i would much rather have these numbers as we grew closer to the end of december. >> you've got to take 'em when you get them. >> but paul, this belies the nation that ben carson is only resonating with evangelicals in iowa. in fact, also a new poll out just yesterday from monmouth university about how well he's doing with non-evangelicals in
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iowa. how well he's doing with men. how well he's done with moderate and liberal republicans. here you go, this is not evangelicals. he's at 28% with them, he was at 18 in august. again, donald trump at 19% now with not evangelicals. he was at 24%. paul, what do you see? >> that shows broad appeal, but keep in mind, everybody who participates in the iowa caucuses on the democratic side is impressive, everybody who participates on the republican side is conservative. it's an extraordinarily conservative group. the base is evangelicals. that's 60% of caucusgoers are evangelicals. he's even winning among the 40% who are not. but they're not like my people. >> still pretty conservative. >> you bet they are very, very conservative. >> so the early read on this poll is going to be whether or not this is about carson's strength or trump's weakness. whether the outsider vote is moving over to carson or what this means about carson
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independently. however, to kevin's point, tomorrow night, something we will hear a lot about is going to be that hillary clinton lied in the aftermath of benghazi, to the american people, as did the white house, by extension, and was telling two different stories about what happened to those she knows and to the rest of us. how do you think that's going to play tomorrow, kevin? >> i think it certainly will come up. the issue of benghazi, i think, is a motivating one for many partisan republicans. and i expect partisan republicans are the ones that many of these candidates are trying to appeal to, because they're the ones tuning into this debate to see which candidate can draw the strongest contrast. i think the candidate that ultimately does best when they're talking about benghazi is one that focuses and pivots quickly to a more advanced policy agenda on national security and foreign policy. the candidates that do that, i think, are going to win, rather than just focusing on trying to
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focus investigator through the lens of the house benghazi committee. >> paul, you don't want to address hillary's lies, do you? >> first of all, she didn't lie, she kicked their ass -- excuse me, she kicked their rear end. >> but it came out she told two different stories in the aftermath. >> because she was getting two different sets of information. i've worked in the government. the early reports are always overtaken by events. >> so she just happened to tell people she knew it was a terrorist attack and then changed? >> i'm sure they took credit at the same time the cia was saying, it looks like there were five or six other protests that were spurred by that video. if you want to spend 11 hours on this the way the republicans did, i wish you well. >> i think you can take care of it in 20 minutes. there is some reason they decided to make this more about the video and the protest for whatever hospitalics, than they knew to be true, which is they had gotten surprised by terrorist attacks. >> that's baloney. they did what the cia told them.
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the political people weren't even involved in that. it was the cia and the national security team trying to figure out what happened in a place that we didn't know what was going on, because it was the fog of war. and we just watched. if you think the republicans are going to get any traction after having spent 11 hours on this and getting their rear ends kicked, i wish them well. >> just real quick -- >> i shouldn't have brought it up. >> sorry, guys. >> the truth sometimes gets in my way. >> you injected the controversy into it and of course this almost come up, i'm sure in the debate tomorrow. >> i saw your -- >> just because they don't get traction doesn't mean it's not true. that's all. >> all right. ly not even be the tiebreaker on this one. >> you must. >> i won't. i refuse. more news ahead here. we've been watching this story from illinois. a teenager, now the seventh high schooler to die playing football this year. what can be done to prevent future tragedies? we'll talk about it, next.
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is high school football worth the risk? that's the question some parents are asking across the nation, after 17-year-old andre smith dried from blunt force head injuries during a football game. his tragic death is the seventh among high school football players this year. dr. sanjay gupta is here, cnn chief medical correspondent. i'm struggling with this one. we love to see our kids active and busy, love to see them playing sports. we know what it does for young people. but when you talk about seven kids, sannier, already this year due to injuries, is this abnormal? it feels abnormal to me, but statistically, is this abnormal? >> first of all, you know, i think anytime you hear a tragic story like this, it feels very
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abnormal, it feels very wrong, and like you, i have young kids who want to play sports. so it's a tough, tough news to hear. there's not a specific database for high school football deaths. there's a center for catastrophic injuries, but they usually base their reporting on media reports. so it's a little bit hard sometimes to get a sense of the numbers. but to your question, there have been seven deaths this year. you can see a list of the players, their ages, what happened to them specifically. >> 16 and 17 years old. >> yeah, i know. it is, again, just tough to look at that. on average in a given year, again, based on media reports, it's about 12 players who die every year, and that includes high school and college. so it does seem a little bit higher this year. we know with andre, it was the last play of the game, as you mentioned, blunt head force trauma. we don't know, had he had a head injury before and this was a sort of secondary injury or was this a secondary injury?
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we're not sure. but it's tough to consider what happened. >> it's interesting, not all of them are from head trauma. apparently, the leading cause is cardiac arrest, generally. christine, what do you think is happening? what's your assessment? is this a case of increased pressure on these young players? is it that they're playing at a higher level? is it a lack of proper equipment or training on the sideline or care on the sideline? >> i think it's a lot of things, michaela and it's all very sad and a terrible confluence of events. five deaths last year, seven already this year. so, that's obviously the eye-opening statistic. there's also heat-related deaths that are another number. but, i think, you know, the irony here is that football probably and kids' sports have probably never been safer. we're aware of concussions in a way we never were before. the helmets are safer. kids are taught how to tackle properly and yet we still have this happen. so my sense is that you could also have the issue of high
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doctors on the high school sidelines as good as college or pro? the answer is probably not. you might have a mom or dad there as a doctor, as opposed to maybe a team of doctors. but sometimes things just happen and it's a tragedy. the case of evan murray, the young boy in new jersey, he had a ruptured spleen. did that cause or help cause his tragic death? each case really almost as individual, but put it together, it's a terrible epidemic at a time, of course, where these kids are just in the prime of their life. >> the prime of their life. that's the part that's so heartbreaking. sanjay, do you think we're hearing more about this because concussions have been sort of the national discussion? or is it because we're keeping better track of these things? as krchristine says, the game i safer. >> i think so. i think there's certainly a lot more awareness of this, and what used to be sort of mainly a local news report now is making
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national news, as more people are paying attention to these sorts of things. i think that's certainly part of it. i also think, you know, if you think about the fact with high school, for example, just look at the numbers. you have a lot more kids playing football as compared to college or pros. you know, a million kids playing every friday night. so the numbers are just higher. the denominators are higher as well when it comes to high school. >> christine, real quickly, what's a parent to do? you have a 14 or 15-year-old who say, i really want to play. this is the advice parents are seeking. how do they make the right decision? >> and i think you let the child play. you hope the coaching is proper, the technique, you can watch, you can go watch a practice, talk to the coaches, ask questions, talk to the administrators at the high school. the reality is in girl's sports, soccer, concussions are the highest rate other than for football or ice hockey. so girls and boys sports, there are dangers but also great awards and that's what we should be focused on. >> but when a 16-year-old and 17
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yeah that makes sense. why the phrase trick or treat has been switched with gimme a kitkat or i'll get you. >> jimmy fallon, he's been injured again. this time at the fall at harvard university. >> fall from grace. >> welcome to the "tonight show." i'm your host trippy fallon. of course you may have heard i had yet another mishap. this time i injured my other hand right after getting an award from harvard. even after getting into the harvard i still embarrass my pare parents. >> he tripped and fell on a bottle of jagermeister. >> that's not true. >> did he -- i think he did say
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that. >> did he really? >> i don't know if it a tes carpet's fault this time or the jaeger's fault. >> i had a while where i fell. >> on a bottle of the jagermeister? >> not really. >> i like the bernie sanders thing. feeding my theory that if you look at the pink panther cann cartoons with the ant eater and the ant? listen to that guy's voice too? >> we have to continue on before our producers have a fit. tonight the special behind some of the world's most popular viral videos. including kpt kp exasperating k" >> you take all your girlfriends out in this car? >> yes. >> yes?
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tre heart defines cool. so what do you talk to your girlfriends about when you take them out on a date. >> i just tell they will what i want to tell them. >> like is that. >> like i love them and stuff like that. item not bragsing it's just that girls like me so much. >> a first grader turned chick magnet. but it is not trey's car that makes him so popular. >> i'm pregnant. >> what were you thinking? >> it's what he does in his mom's car that drives him to viral video fame. >> you just have to get another baby you just had two. which is exasperating. >> any idea where he got that word? >> he got could have it from his uncles, grandpa. he's a spunge. >> can he even spell it. >> oh that is so easy.
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e. wait. exas-per-ating. eizprd? i don't know how to spell nothing. >> so why do all the girls like you now? >> because i'm famous. >> oh you're famous. >> and they heard i'm a super star. they saw my video. >> this is exasperating. >> he sounded it out. but he couldn't quite spell it. >> what were you thinking? >> don't miss tonight at videos gone viral 2 tonight. and still to come the resource officer in this viral video throwing a the female student on the floor. now reigniting the debate over police tactics and also what is
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neil says the flight attendants watches has climbed his way up the aisle. >> i waslike i don't have time for this. and i decided to crawl up taisl. >> good morning. tuesday october 27th. 8:00 in the east and up first this viral video that must be discussed. it is certainly sparking outrage nationwide.
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take a look. it is what it appears to be. that is a teenage girl in class. they call a cop, a resource officer. she went get out of her seat. and this is what happens in this south carolina high school. now a lot of people are talking about whether the cop was obviously using force that was not justified and why he was called in the first place. >> so we don't know what happened in the minutes before this video. but you can hear the officer telling a student to get up. and when she refuses he knocks her to the ground and arrests her. >> i they number of people are looking at this video and asking themselves would they want their daughter treated that way if she refused to leave class? the investigation into what happened now well under way. >> south carolina school police officer ben fields seen here is on administrative leave this morning. after his violent takedown of a
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high school student was caught on camera monday afternoon. tossing her to the ground and then throwing her across the classroom floor. >> we won't want anyone to rush to judgment but we also feel the video was very disturbing. school officials say the video is extremely disturbing and has banned the deputy from all district schools pending an investigation. the sheriff's department who's also looking into the matter says it is still unclear what happened before the cameras started rolling. >> we'll have to look at this in its totality to understand what happened. is this a pattern? is this something he's done
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before? >> the deputy has been the subject of two lawsuits in the last ten years. in 2007 a couple claimed he used excessive force in questioning them about the noise complaint. the husband says fields slammed him to the ground, cuffed him and began kicking him. but the jury ruled in field's favor in 2010. in 2013 a student claimed field falsely accused the teen of being involved in a gang, the school expelling him. that lawsuit is ongoing. >> when you see a video like we've seen earlier today it alarms you and makes you awe little afraid of what is happening in the schools. >> the deputy has been working with the school district seven years and recently awarded the culture of excellence award in 2014 for proving to be what they say was an exceptional role model to the students. >> and stale number -- still a of questions about what happened before the young girl's arrest.
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we are told she was not hurt during arrest. we also reached out to the officer. he had not responded to our requests for interview. >> thanks for all that background. now can the executive director of the south carolina aclu. and contributor and former anybody of the south carolina house of representatives thank you both for being here. we've had two representatives from law enforcement on "new day" this morning. and they remind us to sort of take a deep breathe because we don't know what happened in the moments leading up to this video. all we know is what where he see on the video. is it possible that there was something that proceeds what we see that will tell a different story? >> i can't imagine any justification for treating a child like that in a classroom. we were shocked -- felt disbelief and then outrage when we saw the video. so whatever led up to it,
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whatever rationale may be presented does not justify the force with which that student was treated. >> this siofficer is a sheriff' deputy. a school resource officer. he was assigned to be in the school. we hear him say get up or i'm going to make you. how can a school resource officer not be trained to deal with a defiant teenager? isn't that part and parcel of dealing with the teenagers? >> well he treated her as if she was just sammy the neighborhood drunk from the local pool hall who was disturbing the peace. is facts are this young lady was arrest forward disturbing the peace. the facts are it was a school setting. and the facts are she wasn't about to harm herself or anybody else. that is all we need to know that know that the results of this
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was more than that. it was wrong. yes she should have gotten up on the first command or second command but she didn't. she was an unruly teenage ner a classroom setting. and we didn't have to get to the point where as victoria knows south carolina is on the front lines of embarrassment. and this classical failure of judgment and this assault is tearing us apart again. >> we do know a little bit about this officer's background. he was the subject of two lawsuits. one in 2007 for axesive force. but a jury found in his favor. there is another still pending. he also interestingly got this commendation from a school he worked in last year. an elementary school. described as quote an exceptional role model to the student he is serves and protects. what do you think should happen to this officer who's now on administrative leave? >> i don't want to pass judgment on this individual officer. what our organization, the aclu
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is interested in looking at the whole system. how do we get to that point? why do we have so many police in schools in any case resolving disputes and handling problems that may be emotional and could be solved in other ways? we are really overcriminalizing childhood misbehavior. and to allege that this is one officer going rogue is to miss a very big point. which that we are not investing in counseling medical care, community treatments. even in identifying what the problems are. we're simply criminalizing behavior that in adults would not be criminal. >> hey one of the things i'm struck by is the response of other kids. i can tell you that in high school when i saw fight. i screamed involuntarily. it was my naturally reaction. these kids sit at their desks.
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they are quiet. they are barely fidgeting. what does that tell you? >> well two things going on. and this is really a study that we really have to look at their reaction. one, i believe the students are very fearful. they are fearful of the police. they are fearful of that setting. one young man in the front who puts his hand up. he won't even make eye contact. and two the theory is they are immune to this type of violence. they see it all the time in classrooms and schools so this is nothing new. i will tell you and the viewers this morning on cnn there was one other young lady who actually stood up. she stood up and said that this young lady who was being arrested she knew she didn't have anybody. she was praying for her outloud. he was asking what is going on. she too was arrested. this was just the colossal failure of the judgment. >> we don't know that part of the story. so tell us more. there was a classmate who stood
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up to her defense and what was she arrested. >> there was another young lady arrested if are disturbing schools as well. her statement is that she was attempting to fight and stand up for this young lady. her mother came out and said she's not mad at her daughter at all. not all the students were docile. but your line of questioning is on point. you know, i think many of the student, i think they wouldn't have been upset if they were asked to leave the classroom while the officer attempted to deescalate the situation. i think all of them feel bad this young lady was brutalized the way she was. >> if these students sat there because they were immune or fearful, where does that leave south carolina schools? what is going to happen as a result of this video? >> well we all want our children to be safe in school. understandably. but intimidating police tactics are not going to increase respect for the authority of law enforcement. and they are going to to
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terrorize, traumatize children. so the way to build respect is to get discipline right. and we need things like memoranda of understanding between school districts and law enforcement agencies about who handles school discipline in which cases but we're simply over criminalizing. >> i just want you on the record for. this do you think the sheriff's deputies should be in the schools? >> we think there are too many law enforcement officers in the classroom. every time we have a school shooting in the country, the rush to do something is to put an officer in every classroom, even in elementary school classrooms. it is not even a good use of law enforcement assets. police chiefs will tell you that. but we need -- we're now using those officers against the children rather than outside intruders for minor disciplinary infractions like disturbing schools, which could be anything from, you know, kicking over a chair, slamming a locker, talking back. not staying in line in the
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hallways. so we're really criminalizing minor infractions. >> thanks so much for coming on and giving us your perspective on all of in this morning. we have yuge little news. it is not good for trump. a national poll gives ben carson a four point lead over trump. as the first. joe johns more live from washington. >> hey joe -- michaela. >> you're o joe. >> [ laughter ] long morning. a couple of stories here. ben carson quadrupling his support among republican voters since august. now looking stronger than ever in a national poll from the "new york times" and cbs news. and for the first time since the month of july, donald trump not in first place in a survey of likely primary voters from across the country. it is a narrow lead for ben
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carson at 26%. trump at 22%. no one else close to the top two. the two candidates from florida, rubio, bush at 8% and 7%. and the former ceo fiorina neck and neck with bush. number of others bunched up at 4%. paul, cruz, huckabee and kasich. perhaps what matters most at this stage is what's happening on the ground in the first states to make the decision. and the latest poll in iowa shows carson up there too widening his lead among non evangelicals. a latest monmouth poll showing carson out to a double digit lead over trump. carson 32%. trump at second in 18th. cruz and rubio at 10 a piece. and the bush a couple of clicks behind at 8%. also a big dip in this poll for
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carly fiorina. so a lot to talk about. saw donald trump just yesterday out in new hampshire and of course he's distinguishing these polls. we don't talk about the ones where he's up. >> right. everybody can pick a poll. there are lots out there. but the trend is pretty clear if the conclusion is still in doubt. thank you joe. president obama and season advisors are working on a new plan to take down isis. it considers moving u.s. troops closer to the front lines in syria and iraq. this as tensions between the u.s. and china are peeking after an american naval destroyer sails within miles of islands claimed by beijing. barbara starr, u.s. boots on the ground bad enough. moving them to the front lines will be controversial. >> indeed. good morning chris. we'll have to see of course
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whether president obama signs off on such a plan. about 45 minutes from now secretary ash carter, joe bun fe dunford scheduled to it have by the republican led chair of the armed services committee. u.s. officials, pentagon officials telling me there are a number of ideas out there. a number of options. the president has told the pentagon he wants to see some options for more rapid action for more success for trying to build on what they have already done. carter in fact hinted at some of this last week after that special operations raid in northern iraq, saying that there would be more raids like that. that u.s. troops might again go into the field. they are advising, assisting and accompanying iraqi forces.
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we might see more of that. but right now we are told no final decisions have been made. >> barbara, keep us updated. thank you. an american destroyer passes within 12 nautical miles of artificial islands in the south china sea and beijing calls it illegal. but a u.s. defense official says this is a quote routine patrol. cnn's national security correspondent jim sciutto joins us in washington. what is the latest. >> the chinese definitely do not see this as routine. and i just learned that the chinese navy communicated with the u.s. destroyer during its transit inside these 12 miles of what china claims as its territorial waters but which the u.s. does not believe it is china territory.
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and the u.s. does not view the air space over these island as chinese air space. and we were warned as well by the chinese navy. and this is what its sounded like inside the cockpit. >> now, this senior u.s. military official has not characterized what kind of warning the u.s. destroyer received during this transit. but you did hear very strong words from the chinese foreign ministry today in reaction to this transit. and it shows just how serious the chinese are taking this. in that reaction the chinese saying if relevant parties insist on creating tensions in the region and making trouble out of nothing it may force china to draw the conclusion that we need to strengthen and
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hasten the build up of our capabilities. i advise the u.s. not to create such a self fulfilling profess. what does building up relevant capabilities mean? u.s. will be very concerned it means further militarizing. that is a step that the u.s. would take very seriously. the death toll from the powerful 7.5 magnitude earthquake rising. at least 3,0least. if you would like to help the earthquake victims you can go to cnn.com/impact to find out the details. back to politics. democratic challenger bernie sanders no longer playing nice guy after front runner hillary
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violence. well i haven't been shouting but sometimes when a woman speaks out some people think it's shouting. >> that was bernie sanders and hillary clinton trading jabs. and now bernie sanders fighting back against the accusations of s sexism by hillary clinton. what does bernie sanders think about these charges of sexism against him? >> well look, you know, it is an illness here in washington d.c. some politicians believe that no one could possibly be in a room with them without talking about them. but the truth of the manner was senator sanders was tack about the tenor of the debate in general over the issue of the gun violence and gun safety. and i think anybody who looked at it objectively undersands there's been a lot of shouting back and forth and it's time to build a consensus around common sense gun safety legislation. >> is the term "shouting" a
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sexiest term. >> well it wasn't leveled at secretary clinton so i don't think it's relevant. >> is this prompting bernie sanders new tone? what some believe is a new tone of him going after secretary clinton? let's listen to what he said last night about hillary clinton. >> i have been opposed to these disastrous trade agreements from day one. i'm glad that hillary clinton has come on board and now said well she's against the keystone pipeline. well do you know what if you take climate change seriously and understand the impact it will have on this planet it is a no brainer what. the american people and democrats have to know, which candidate historically has had the guts to stand up to powerful people and take difficult decisions. >> so is that bernie sanders taking off the gloves against
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hillary clinton? >> look, there are some clear policy differences. the clinton campaign has tried as rapidly as they can to race towards senator sanders in terms of positions. because, you know, he's setting the terms of the debate in this election. so you see on keystone, she said they were inclined to support it. in terms of tpp, she said it was the gold standard. spoke in favor of it 45 times. in terms of doma she claimed it was kind defensive action when in fact it was that discriminatory gay law against americans. and in terms of the consistency of the positions which they have held over the years. >> jeff, this does sound like a different tone from bernie sanders. it is not to congenial tone that we heard at the debate. is this intentional from your campaign that now sort of the
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gloves are off and it is time. > -- to more vociferously go after hillary clinton? >> it is laying out the differences between the candidates. voters have a choice. they go o into the booths and they are making a choice. and it is important to know what those choices are. i would also say while we've been setting the agenda in this debate. the clinton campaign has really been setting the tone. it was they who launched super pac attempts against senator sanders and made this sordid sexist attack against bernie sanders. all baseless. and if that is the tone they want to set in this campaign, you know, we can do that as well. >> jeff, so much was made in the
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debate of that moment where bernie sanders said "enough with the e-mails, nobody gives a damn about the e-mails." and that did seem to be one of the highlights of the debate of the but now a couple of weeks out, in sort of the cool light of day, does bernie sanders regret making that statement? because it did seem too friendly to hillary clinton. >> no. absolutely not. look, this must be a campaign about issues. about trade policy. about raising the minimum wage. about dealing with a rigged economy that is propped up by a corrupt political system. those are the issues we want to talk about. e-mails or no e-mails. that is not an important issue to the american people. what they want that hear about is the issues you heard last night. where he is drawing contrasts but they are on the substantive issues that american people care about. >> jeff weaver, thanks so much for being on "new day."
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breaking news. dr. ben carson in a big cbs polling move ahead of donald trump national. national for the first time. cbs "new york times" poll. latest numbers show carson leading by four points. the neurosurgeon quadrupling support among republican voters since august. what explains this surge? how seriously should we take it? what does it mean? let's talk to someone who understands the gop as well as anyone. john -- former governor of new hampshire. former chief of staff to
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govern governor george h.w. bush. when you see trump and carson not just ahead but way ahead of the rest of the field, how do you see it? >> well there are two headlines that go with those polls that we're looking at now. number one it is ben carson's turn to be kingle of the hill. and number two, the trump numbers are beginning to crumble. and i think what you are seeing is the cycle which people are talking about parallels what happened last time when we went from herman cane to gingrich and so on. voters are just now beginning to look at issues and in this trump case they are seeing oh my gosh this guy really does support single hblg supported and all these issues that the conservative republican base can't stand. there will be a lot more of that
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happening and there will be i think the shifting take place over the next month or two. >> trump will say i'm ahead in all the other polls so i'm still on top. and let's give him the benefit of that. and then look at what it means for the party. because yes, you are right. it is still kind of early but i it kind of isn't. we've been covering this intensely for months and what does this say about where your party? do we even understand where you electorate is right now. >> if this doesn't change it is a real problem for the party. and it is a real problem because neither trump or carson have no real sense of what presidency is. they would be in my opinion another obama. they would come with seductive rhetoric. without understanding the responsibility. without understanding the role of the united states as the last superpower. without understanding how to
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cope with the difficult issues internationally. and we would have a second disastrous presidency. and i think the republican electorate has to begin to understand that leading in public is not the same as leading in the private sector. it would be a disaster for the country and a disaster for the party if they don't come to their senses and select one of the experience candidates to be the nominee. >> they wanted president obama fortwo terms. and these are your people, governor. they are saying in iowa specifically right now, whether they are moderate, republicans or evangelical -- religiously driven republicans. they want ben carson. and not only do they want ben carson and second now donald trump. but they don't want any of the rest of you.
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so what is the message to the field? jeb bush with all his money and recent meetings. kasich? rubio? these big names. >> i go back to the point i made. this is a conversation that has to continue. the candidates have to start talking about issues. the public has to start moving away from seductive rhetoric to evaluating issues and capacity to serve. that happens in an election process. that is part of the process. we've got about 100 days to the first vote in iowa. that is an eternity politically. and at the hundred day mark we've had president giuliani and president cain in the past. so let's have this conversation. but remember, iowa picks corn and new hampshire picks president.
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>> understood in terms of -- it is not since george h.w. bush. it is only. >> right. so we haven't seen it since him and he was an outlier in that regard as well. i understand the context. yet you do have to take it somewhat seriously here right? >> i do. i do. >> when you look at what's happening with them. because look, jeb bush just had this big reconnection meeting with his sponsor. what can he do to get back into this? >> i think what you are going to see now is not just jeb bush. you are going to see the serious candidates like kasich and rubio and christie. they are going to start understanding that in order to compete with the free media that carson and trump have been getting because they are really entertainment at this point. the serious candidates are going to start pumping up their advertising, talking about their background. talking about their positions. and eventually, i believe, the republican electorate is going to understand that this is an election that is important. that we can't make a mistake.
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that we've got to nominate someone. and that if we do nominate someone that has the capacity to be a president they will go ahead and beat hillary clinton. >> and under you right now on our screen is a banner that reads 7 in 10 republicans have not yet made up their mind. and obviously you are relying on that to believe there could still be a change within the party. thank you for being here. nobody are discuss this more than on cnn. so please come back. >> thank you for having me. kurdish fighters in syria laying the groundwork for possible front line attack against ice. active management can take calculated risks. active management can seek to outperform. because active investment management isn't reactive.
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raqqa. joined live from erbil iraq. tell us what you have seen. >> reporter: good morning. just a few weeks the u.s. dropped 50 tons of ammunition to a new coalition fighting against isis on the ground in syria. group t kurdish ypg and they in- told us that is not going to be enough for them. these men are at the core of america's latest strategy to defeat isis. manning positions along a vast and decembles desolate front li. they are fighters with the ypg, a force of roughly 30,000 syrian kurds which backed by coalition air power has dealt decisive blows to islamic state militants across northern syria. this commander is in charge of a front line position in the city
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of hasikka which the ypg to be from isis in august after months of fierce clashes. >> they tried to attack us again ten days ago. we were prepared so they didn't reach their target. >> but they keep trying. isis has control over the next village just over a mile in that direction. but the men of this base tell us isis fighters often go at night to that building just over there so they can launch attacks on these positions. the u.s. hopes the ypg will soon move from defense to offense taking the fight to isis's stronghold in raqqa. but at makeshift bases we saw the fighters were lightly armed, poorly equipped and exhausted by months of fighting. and commander knows the battles ahead will be even tougher. >> can you take raqqa without heavier weapons from the
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coalition? >> translator: the weapons we have are not high quality. for this campaign we'll need new heavy weapons. >> the newest weapon they have and don't want to talk about is this device. which helps the ypg send location information. they were given a week of training before using te ininei device. >> who trained you how to use this? >> believe me. i can't say. when you finish the training it's a secret. but they weren't speaking kurdish. >> a mystery as is so much of the unfolding u.s. strategy in this critical corner of syria. >> the main reason the u.s. is being so circumspect about its support of the ypg is because
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the group works very closely with its turkish counterpart, the pkk. and the pkk is technically designated a terrorist organization. >> what can you tell us about the new reporting this morning that president obama is weighing moving u.s. troops closer to the front lines in syria? >> well i can't say exactly what's going on in the white house but on the ground in syria, i can tell you that the feeling with e got on the front lines was that these front lines for the moment have very much static. and the ypg don't have the ability or the will yet to push ahead to take on an offensive like raqqa. so essential it would take some very dramatic ib type of development, such this possible, in order to push along and get real momentum for serious offenses against isis strongholds. >> and the terrible refugee
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crisis we understand is getting worse. what have you seen on the ground? >> well i think what was most striking alisyn was not seeing refugee camps or displaced people but driving through entire villages that are now completely deserted. some of them fleeing isis who have put land mines all over the place and rigged the towns with ieds and booby traps. and other fleeing the coalition forces. but they are part of 50% of syrians no longer living in their own homes. >> thank you so much. great to have you on board at cnn. >> united airlines is now apologizing after a man who required a wheelchair to get off a plane ended up crawling off that plan. that man joins us next. we're going to ask him in an
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he decided to crawl off the plane himself. you sure have made head lines, haven't you? >> yes i have. >> not to be indelicate but i understand the reason you were urgently trying to get off the plane was you needed to use the facilities. with your disability it is not easy to use the one on the airplane, correct. >> correct. >> and you waited for everybody to get off and were supposed to be waiting for the wheelchair to be brought on to help you deplane but that didn't happen. did they alert you to the problem? >> not really. standard protocol is when airplanes land i wait about 15-20 minutes as everyone deboards and immediately after they are supposed to bring in the aisle chair with the staff. and that didn't happen. and the flight attendants were doing their job i guess telling me just wait, it will be here. we're talking to them. they are on their way. but obviously that wasn't the
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case. >> and then at some point you said okay. i got to go. and you weren't making a fuss. you just kind of quietly got down on your arms and crawled out to the jetway. correct? >> yes. essentially i had told them i had to use the bathroom. and i told them two or three times and he asked many why i couldn't use the one on the plane. so having cerebral palsy i'm not able to stand. sp so that's virtually impossible. and when asked where my wheelchair was he said on the jetway. i said okay i'm just going to believe. it was interesting. i expected them to say how can we assist you? what is the best way? >> and they didn't. interesting, because afterwards i understand with when the flight attendants reached out to the airline and they tweeted you. and you thanked united airlines
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for their quick response and decisive action. now let's get ada seats on planes. an apology has come but you say an apology is good but you want more done. you have some ideas how they could change things on planes. give us a quick couple of ideas. >> one of the biggest issues is that airlines do not have ada seats. and their protocol in place is antiquated and completely inefficient. so i think if they were to law ada in the first three rows. one seat on either side. and it would speed up. letting people with disabilities board first and exit first it would just make the entire process much easier. >> and the you were meeting with who about what? san francisco? >> i had actually flown over to talk about a transportation
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company, uber, about accessible transit and the issues surrounding it. so this is very ironic. >> might maybe you be able to sit down with some airlines. seems like a perfect conversation and perfect anecdote to use. >> absolutely. i think like i said i'm not expecting them to rip out seats out of a plane because i now for safety concerns that is not appropriate. however, cordoning off seats in the front of a plane is an easy thing they can do. they can do it tomorrow if they want. so if i want a conversation i'm very open to the possibility. >> his name is d 'arcie kneneal. we need to make sure people are being treated with the dignity and respect and being helped where they can. thank you for being an activist for a very important community. >> thank you for having me. >> ux get on the conversation by
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little good stuff. little healthy bit of outrage. this is zack. a cross-country runner from iowa. real good. he wins his meet. and spots a player 150 yards from the finish line grab his heart and collapse. >> i was like is anyone going to help him. and i jumped in and started walking bhds him and gave him a push to the finish line. >> isn't that great. and the other runner is going to be fine. >> thank goodness. >> but guess what. zach disqualified buzz it is against to rules to help or receive help from another runner. they pleaded with officials to reverse the call but of course they didn't budge since i'm doing the story. >> there is no wiggle room. >> the good news is zach's team advances to the state where zach will run. cheering him on?
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the runner he helped and his entire family. >> great. >> shame on the officials. >> no wiggle room? there's always wiggle room. >> wiggle room. >> the purpose of the rule in the little research i had time to do today is to stop you from winning the race with assistance. you didn't do it by yourself. i helped you. this kid didn't win. >> carol costello. >> i leave you to argue amongst yourselves. >> i can't lose. >> have a great day. yes you can. >> i win last word. ha ha. >> oh geez. >> and good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. with the presidential election still more than a year away it is too early to called it a bomb shell but it definitely signals a huge shift in the republican field. ben carson ridesing
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