lowlights of the debate. >> there was a lot of drama. a coming out party really at the expense of the media. and also jeb bush. >> reporter: one stage, ten candidates, a world of prickly squirm in your seats tension. >> folks, we've got to wake up. we cannot elect somebody that doesn't know how to do the job. >> reporter: john case itch swinging at donald trump who swung back. >> he was so nice. he was such a nice guy and said, oh, i'm never going to attack, but then his poll numbers tanked. >> reporter: and jeb bush on the senator's spotty attendance record. >> when you signed up for this, says that six-year term. and you should be showing up for work. literally, the senate, is it like a french work week, you get three days to show up.

>> i don't remember you saying that about the record. >> reporter: ben carson ma he calls political correctness. >> they shouldn't automatically assume because you believe marriage is between one man and one woman that you are a home bow phobe. >> reporter: but above all, way above all, it was everyone hitting the media. >> well, the democrats have the ultimate super pac. call the mainstream media. >> reporter: especially the debate moderators and questions the candidates deemed controversial. >> the board fired you. i just wonder why you think we should hire you now? >> why not slow down, get a few more things done first or at least finish what you start. >> is this a comic version of a campaign? >> it's not a comic book. it's not very nicely questioned as you say that. >> questions asked so far in this debate illustrate why the american people don't trust the media. >> even in new jersey what you're doing is called rude.

>> reporter: the chair reince priebus agreed. >> i got it was one gotcha question and one blow beyond the other. >> reporter: but beyond the umbrage, perhaps a new trend in new faces. it does not focus on donald trump or ben carson and opening for marco rubio. >> i'm against anything that's bad for my mother. >> reporter: and ted cruz who attempted to patch things up with moderators with more legal -- >> tequila or famous colorado browns. >> reporter: and new jersey governor chris christie, much more central to the mix now, again, going after the modera r moderators for the subject of their questions. >> watt a second we have $19 trillion in debt. we have people out of the work we have isis and al qaeda attacking us and we're talking about fantasy football? >> reporter: answer on a night that many thought that jeb bush kneeleded to break out, he spoke less than the other candidates, the performance that left some

cold, despite one hot offer. >> you fine a democrat that is cutting taxes for $10, i'll give him a warm kiss. >> reporter: at least mike huckabee left something memorable. >> donald trump, he's a good man. i'm wearing a donald trump tie. get over that. >> so interesting, danny diaz for jeb bush, left banging on the cnbc control room door because he did not feel like his candidate jeb bush was getting the time to get his message out. >> that is high drama. >> it started to matter more. there was a different dynamic up there. let's discuss what the plus-minus is. let's keep j.b. and bring in maggie haberman. and in boulder, colorado, cnn national political reporter maeve reston.

maggie, i'll start with you in-house. john's making a very excellent point. there was high drama out there. there was opportunity. and when opportunity rears its head in a campaign, everybody is going to fly forward. they do feel they've been closed out. who do you think got the plus-minuses last night. >> i agree with everything john said. that's it. we're done. >> your credibility just crashed. >> marco rubio, and ted cruz, i thought had very strong nights. and for similar reasons. they both had pitches thrown at them. ted cruz was much more about the media. marco rubio did that one, too. marco rubio just owned jeb bush in that exchange about votes. chris christie had a really good night. i'm not sure how much it will matter. it will matter if you see people with that rubio, and in this

very crazy election year. donald trump and ben carson were almost nonfactors last night. you saw donald trump trying to show he could be more serious. he 150e very deliberately trying to not be bombastic. >> there was another 28-minute chunk where he didn't speak. much like the other, 37. unlike trump. maeve, you were in the room, was the feeling, i should say, that marco rubio won, as it seems to be today in the media? >> that definitely was the feeling in the room. and i have to agree with much of what maggie and john said. this is obviously, a strong inside, also for john kasich. and the very first exchange that came out fiery and aggressive as we were expecting him to do, his poll numbers have been flattening in new hampshire. he had a breakthrough night. he had a really good exchange where he came back at trump. he made have tried to reverse

it. but he also kind of stole jeb bush's moment in that way. those two candidates are really in the same establishment lane. and i thought that jeb bush really was overshadowed for much of the night which is why danny diaz, you know, was pounding on the door and wanting to get equal time for his candidate. which is what you want for a campaign manager to be doing. >> let's replay that. for the major reflection point. a lot of people were waiting for the ohio governor to break out. here it is. >> this stuff is fantasy just like getting rid of medicare and medicaid. come on. you can't scare senior citizens with that. the not responsible. folks, we've got to wake up. we cannot elect somebody that doesn't know how to do the job. you've got to pick somebody who has experience, somebody that has the know how, the discipline. >> a couplet, there, right,

john? you've got to establish yourself and the second part is now proving you're the guy you should be looking at? >> he did that from the very beginning. the debate moderator said nice to have you here and john kasich launched into that. donald trump actually squished him. right after the fact that they brought up the fact that john ca kasich worked for lehman brothers. >> he actually had a line if he were ever to close to becoming the republican nominee, you would hear this used by both his republican opponents and by democrats which was, i was a banker and proud of it. that is not something you that hear anyone on either side say. >> is it a winning one? >> it's not going to be a winning one for quite sometime. he got flustered and he responded. i agree, i think trump absolutely got the best of him in that exchange.

>> so, maeve, the media was also on trial last night, courtesy of the candidates that cnbc was asking unfair and sort of stilted questions. let me play for you how ted cruz fought back. >> the questions that have been asked so far in this debate imwhy the american people don't trust the media. [ applause ] this is not a cage match. and you look at the questions, donald trump are you a comic book villain. ben carson, you can do math? john kasich, will you insult two people over here? jeb bush, why are your numbers falling? how about talking about the substantive issues? >> maeve, the room went wild. they loved that line. >> they did. and if you were tracking all the twitter traffic and internet searches, ted cruz just surged at that moment. he obviously had been waiting for it. he had a lot of good lines up

his sleeve. and he really took command of the stage. you saw christie try to go after the media as well. but ted cruz had a really strong performance. he's raised a lot of money. and i think a lot of people will be taking a second look at him again tonight, after last night. and it will be interesting to see what happens with the dynamic between ted cruz and ben carson. because if ted cruz really starts to rise, he could be moving right into that lane, into ben carson's support. ben carson, however, was kind of, you know, chill and not trying to do too much on the debate stage last night. and that was probably okay for where he is at this moment in the 308s. >> let's talk about that, maggie, you can't go wrong by bashing the media, i grew up in a house where my mother believed everything that went wrong for my father was because of a reporter. ironically, i became one.

trump and carson being quiet last night. you can look at it one of two ways, one, opportunity. or inclination. they thought i'd do better if i say nothing out here. >> absolutely that was the case. ben carson, the first two debates, everybody commented he was lackluster, he was subdued. he didn't leave a mark. for him, if you have a winni ni fo formula, that's what you go to. and trump, it's been central to his campaign message. you saw trump in iowa literally saying, ire don't get it, why aren't you voting for me, to voters? you never hear something like that from trump. he's try to be pour presidential than we've never seen before. >> if he follows through with that that could change the dynamic in a lot of places.

>> he also said on the debate stage, he's spending 100% of his own money. that's completely not true. he's raised $4 million. he's put in $2 million. >> remember, how long he needs to spend. i don't know what he's done infrastructurewise, he has no beef with the media, he's not -- >> he can have air time. >> you can't go wrong with bashing the media. >> you know where he went wrong last night, jeb bush went wrong by not bashing the media on stage. what you saw were good athletes, marco rubio, ted cruz, christie, turn the debate in the moment. ted cruz's wasn't scripted. he brought up what was given to him. jeb bush when asked about fantasy football, answered the question, he said 7-0, the popular response is the one that

chris christie gave? fantasy football? >> jeb bush signaled in his opening statement, i'm not interested in tearing people down. >> rubio won that exchange, in my personal opinion, through tone. i thought what he said about his mother was great with his words. but what he said with his tone and eyes looking at jeb, it was so disarming, he said, i like you, don't listen to these people. >> advising him. right. >> that may have been such a strong moment for him. that was why it was such a strong moment for him. that was a potent line of attack that jeb bush has against him on his voting record in d.c. it's destroyed other candidate it's in past. as we saw, you know, in the most recent senate election. and for marco rubio to get the better of that exchange repeatedly throughout the night shows how much message discipline he has.

and why he's been such a strong candidate all the way through. very smooth, very polished, unflustered by the attacks. >> maeve, john, maggie, stick around. >> of course, we're getting into the actuals with the people there on the stage. carly fiorina, what happened to her? last night, she came kind of back. what does that mean? rubio on his night. christie on his resurgence. and huckabee, on what his attack was through the night. stay with us. we're going to give you other news. the full house of representatives is officially set to approve wisconsin congressman paul ryan's nomination for house speaker. house republicans overwhelmingly nominating him in a secret ballot vote over daniel webster who might have originally incivilitied he didn't want the job but then would change house rules in order to run. a budget deal, the house approving a two-year partisan

budget deal that resolves the threat of default and reduces the chance of another government shutdown in december. the deal moves to the senate where it's expected to pass this week in order to beat tuesday's deadline. two down, two to go for the kansas city royals. they beat -- who was that, chris? the mets? yeah, the mets. to take a two games to none lead in the world series. we're drinking the hater aide this morning. andy scholes. >> anything is possible for the mets. this royals lineup is so tough. they continue to wear teams down by putting the ball in play. their latest victim, jacob degrom who has been the mets' ace this season. in the fifth, the royals got to him in four runs. eric hosmer's single up the middle. cueto threw a two-hitter.

dedicated it to edinson volquez's father who passed away. the royce lead the series two games to none. >> you got to keep your foot on the gas and you got to keep pushing. because that team, with that style, will have the ability to rail off a couple good outings in a row and their offense has the ability to get hot. >> it shifts to game three friday night. how much you love stats, i'll leave you with one for the day, when the team goes up 2-0 in the world series, they go on to win 80% of the time. that being said, when the mets last won the world series in 1986, they were down 2-0, alisyn, against the red sox. >> i don't believe in a premature celebration, but it does look good. >> andy, thank you. so the third republican debate last night had some fireworks. and you could make the argument that no one had more to lose

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marco, when you signed up for this, this was a six-year term, and you should be showing up to work. literally, the senate, what is it, like a french work week, you get like three day where is you have to show up. you can campaign or just resign and let someone else take the job. >> i don't remember you ever complaining about john mccain's work record. the only reason you're doing it not is because we're running for the same position. >> jeb bush went against rubio's voting record but it did not go as jeb bush had planned. janing us john berman, and maggie haberman. in boulder, colorado, cnn national reporter maeve reston. maggie, that was a key moment,

because jeb bush had that teed up to go after the fact that senator rubio has missed some voting in the senate. and he was ready for it. >> well, so jeb bush had basically been telegraphicing for days that's where he was going to go. where is marco, he's not voting. joe was staying it on the stump. so when you have days to prepare for when someone is going to throw a punch at you, you have time to put your hands up and go like this. that's what rubio did. the mccain response was brilliant. jeb bush had had absolutely no comeback for it. jeb bush tried to say something. and marco rubio stopped him which was problematic which was jeb bush's problem all night. he had very little talk time. he never seized the moment either. he never recovered from early on. i started hearing from some of his supporters within minutes they could not get over what they were seeing. every supporter of his, to a person, said to me, we had a terrible night.

i don't know what it means now. we still have five debates, we have money, but it's a problem. >> another part of the challenge is where is he his morning, maeve? >> he has to change his narrative now. >> as bad as the media is, they're the refuse ferryererefe. let me you can, maeve, for the maya angelou genius, it's how you make them feel. the tone of i'm actually your friend and that's why i'm telling you this, how did it play for you? >> yeah, you know, it was dismissive, but soft. he did not go, you know, after jeb bush the way that donald trump has, obviously. so, it was effective from that perspective. and i think that's what's so important as maggie was saying, is coming off of these couple of weeks for jeb bush that have just been absolutely awful where

he's had to slash salaries, pare back his campaign. and reframe the way they were selling his candidacy, there were so many donors or allies looking for big performance outside of them to reassure them. it's not just those donors that are with bush and whether there will be defections, but if all the donors were still sitting on the sidelines looking at both jeb and rubio and other candidates in the race, who probably came away last night thinking, whoa, i am not ready to like jump on that train. >> john, we've talked about how jeb's campaign was not happy with the amount of air time. that he had left. let's look at how much air time each of the candidates had last night. because it's very interesting. guess who got number one? carly fiorina got the most talking time. she had 10 1/2 minutes. >> the greatest bang for the buck. >> and jeb is not down. >> she got the most air time because she took the most air time. >> that's what you have to do.

>> that's her skill. >> that's her skill. >> but the weakness is the followthrough, you saw that happen in the last debate when everyone thought she won and then what happened afterward. and the question that you raised what does jeb do in the next hour, it's what does carly fiorina do in the next five days? because she got talk time. no one is talking about her. >> not a lot of new out of her last night, maggie. >> she's a really good filibusterer, you know, that has been her skill in the campaign trail in 2010. she just keeps driving the facts on the points. i was surprised she didn't get pressed harder on her record at hp last night, given the context of this thing focused on business issues. but she's very good with kind of sticking with her stump speech and barrelling through it and got her time with it. >> did the moderators let her run away with it? >> i don't know run away with it, they let her talk a lot. other candidates let her talk. you have to seize the moment. the only woman on that stage

worried about getting into an overly aggressive back and forth with her. remember, you had trump in the last debate, he made comments previously in the days leading up to it about her looks. he ended up on the defensive about that. to your point, how this translates once the debate is over, i think a lot of people look at that as a foil for trump. i think that's less important now that trump seems to be fading a bit. >> also, she didn't capture the flash she got the first time. she said something last night, there's a little bit of scrutiny with the planned parenthood stuff. with job losses under obama it wasn't 100% correct. i think that's where the media is be looking at her. trump and carson, again, we look at them in terms of time. trump was in the middle of the pack, a lot of that because people are talking about him. carson, less so. do you believe last night, this was another indication that, wow, these other guys can play at a higher level of the traditional game than trump and

carson can? >> ben carson is playing a different game. it's not a matter of levels, he's just not playing this game. he's doing his had own thing. he's appealing to his own supporters who will look at it what happened last night and be perfectly happy with it. and ben carson didn't have to answer to the other audience about his plans, which there are legitimate questions about his economic plans. he was asked a little bit but no followthrough. >> and he had that tribble. and i will say this had for all the predictions that trump is about to crumble or his numbers are about to collapse and the media will go away and therefore, i do think trump has a flurry of support. at the moment, that will go away in that our poll, "the new york times" poll, 55% of voters said they were committed to him. >> rock solid. >> rock solid. 80% of ben carson's supporters were not committed yet. trump has high negatives but he

has people that are going to be with him regardless. >> maeve, there was a question whether or not candidates who have not gotten any traction recently were able to. and some people looking at chris christie this morning? >> yeah, definitely, chris christie had a very strong night. you know, really getting the better of jeb in that fantasy football exchange that we talked about earlier. he's been working very hard in new hampshire doing, you know, dozens of town halls, really working it. so it will be interesting to see whether he can get a little oxygen now to kind of come back in the game, if you look sat jeb bush's collapse, christie could potentially gain from that. and that will be something that will be really interesting to watch. i also thought that trump's performance last night was fascinating. because his poll numbers dropped a little bit. and he really like backed off, you know, all of the attacks, with the exception of kasich that he's done in the last few weeks. so this donald trump's second act as, you know, the serious candidate that is going to focus

on policy. >> all right. interesting note to leave it on. maeve, maggie, john, thank you for the analysis. what's your take watching at home? we'd love to hear it, hughes the #newday cnn. or post your comment on facebook/new day.michaela. there were a lot of words used last night. the accusations on the debate. who stuck to the facts, who stretched them. we'll give you a cnn reality check when "new day" continues. glad i could help you plan for your retirement.

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good to have you back with us here on "new day." a lot of bold statements and claims last night during the gop debate. cnn's chief business correspondent christine romans is here. running through some of those statements through a reality check for us. >> good morning, michaela. let's get right to it.

jeb bush attacked the economic activity and specifically the president's record on jobs. >> workforce participation rates lower than they were in 1977. 6 million more than people living in poverty than the day barack obama got elected president. >> let's talk about these numbers and whether they are true. figures from labor bureau of statistics do show that the number is up and workforce participation is down. it's at the lowest since 1977. however, economists suggest a lot of that, some of it at least, has to do with ageing baby boomers and was not that unexpected. his other claim about more people living in poverty. i want to show you this, the poverty rate is higher than when president obama was elected but lower than the peak in 2010. all of that 2008 to 2010 period skews these numbers. taking all of that into consideration, those claims from jeb bush are mostly true. let's talk about donald trump. the moderator asked trump, gimp

his company's bankruptcies, why the company should trust him. his response. >> i never filed for bankruptcy. but many, many people did. what happened with atlantic city is very, very disgraceful. now, hundreds of companies i've opened, i've used it three times, maybe four times. came out great. >> he's used it three times, maybe four times. he has said this before. he has never filed for personal bankruptcy. but four, four of his casino-based businesses filed for chapter 11 to get rid of that debt. so the reality check, it is true but misleading. there's a lot of economic claims. jobs claims, small business claims week going through all of them all morning, guys. >> we appreciate that. christines thank you. let's look at headlines for the first time. iran is joining international peace talks to end syria's

bloody five-year civil war. secretary of state john kerry arriving in vienna this morning. talks begin this afternoon and will continue through tomorrow. representatives from turkey, russia, saudi arabia, iraq and iran will be at the table. iran along with russia is a crucial allied syrian president bashar al assad. how on earth does say massive military blimp critical to defense essentially go awol for a few hours. the blimp somehow became untether from its maryland base. it floated right over pennsylvania. not without hours of panic and concern. cnn laura borchez is live. >> reporter: this is supposed to remain tethered. despite hurricane force winds, instead, it's in pieces in a field here in pa pap. you see the national guard has cut off the road as investigators worked to secure a

perimeter around the blimp and then collect evidence to figure out exactly how this happened. >> it's going down. >> reporter: this morning, it's still unclear exactly how this military surveillance blimp broke free. ending up in this wooded area in central pennsylvania in two debated pieces. the blimp called jlens is a highly sfophisticated aircraft from norad. using on board radar that can trap air missiles. yesterday afternoon, jlens broke free of its mooring at the aberdeen in maryland. crash landing in moreland township, pennsylvania. two f-16 fighter jets from the national guard station in atlantic city, new jersey, scrambling to track the blimp and clear the way for commercial

aircraft. >> we saw a boom about two or three times the size of my house. 1500 feet coming down slow. >> reporter: neighbors on edge that the 1600-foot cable that kept blimp more to its station, dragging on the ground, leaving behind a travel destruction and taking out power lines. knocking out electricity for 30,000 residents. the debacle is putting the spotlight on controversial program which cost a whopping $2.7 billion. and took over a decade to even get off the ground. the other big question here is how the blimp came down. we know it's equipped with a self-deflating mechanism. it's unclear that's what eventually brought it to the ground. >> thank goodness, it could have caused more damage. thanks for that canning that. we appreciate it, boris. marco rubio setting the tone calling the mainstream media a superparke for hillary clinton. it didn't take long for the rest

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the questions that have been asked so far in this debate illustrate why the american people don't trust the media. [ applause ] this is not a cage match. you luke at the questions, john kasich, will you insult two people over here. marco rubio, why aren't your numbers falling? how about talking about the substantive questions. >> going after the media and politics. >> he did it artfully. he had that in his head. he couldn't have prepared that. that happened in the debate. >> right, i don't think they had it in his head. he's a brilliant guy. it was used a lot last night.

actually a main course and kind of joined all candidates in a common fight against the media. let's discuss the impact with dylan buyer from cnn media and politics and brian stelter. a host of reliable sources. how did you feel that played last night, as motivation and as moments? >> you're right. his was a uniting force for all of the candidates. many of them came in, they planned to target the moderators, they did it devastatingly well. the moderators seemed very weak. they seemed out of control -- they seemed like they let the debate get out of control. it seemed chaotic to me. i think we're going to see changes in future debates because of this. >> look, it's hard to monitor a debate. did the cnbc moderators almost seem caught by surprise that the candidates almost effectively turned the tables on them?

>> yeah, i see this respectively, they seemed totally out of their lead. they did a terrible job in michigan the debate. and they provided the candidates with an opening to make them look bad. at one point, becky quick, one of the moderators tried to hold donald trump for something he had said. he said, no, that's not true. of course, it was true. she backed down. there were moment where is all ten candidates were given openings because they didn't like the questions or that resonated with the audience in boulder and audience at home. >> i keep going back to the fact that the media is an easy target. you care about what the candidates say. you care whether or not the performance as moderators wound up not letting you get as much juice out of the debate. when you were looking at it, who do you think benefited the most?

obviously, cruz gets the big check plus. he created the moment. christie talked about it. others did. who do you think used it well last night? >> well rubio opened the floodgates first. cruz, no one capitalized on it quite so well as cruz did. as the night wore on, if you didn't get in an attack on the moderators, you sort of lost your moment. we've been talking about how jeb bush didn't have a great debate night. he didn't take an advantage of the moderators. chris christie who is on the bubble and really needs to improve his standing in the polls if he wants to be around for the main stage of the next debate, you know, he took his shot. asking moderators why we were talking about fantsd taes football when there's so many other important issues. i think in you made a successful attack on the cnbc moderators or on the mainstream generally, you can mark last night down as a win. >> and as you're saying, chris, yes, grandstanding happenings, they're pandering when they go out to the media.

it's an easy line. >> were the questions unfair? >> some of the questions were too much about the games of politics. not about substance. this is a debate on c knicks. a business 23450us channel. there was expectation for questions about economic policy. >> they're trying to juice it. make it a little sexier. >> two things i'd say in cnbc's defense, live tv is really hard. jake tapper, megyn kelly, they make it look easy. it doesn't seem like they were prepared. my frustration watching the debate there were missed opportunities because. moderators. >> it's also how you do it, you know. they had their way last night. they were attacked by the whole field. megyn kelly got a big smack from donald trump about what happened with them and played to sexism, went back and forth. but it wasn't exactly artfully done. so then you see jake tapper using words against them.

you can't get mad at jake. and anderson showed his craft at its best. i'm going to take you on. i'm going to take you on with what you said and there's no wiggle room for you. how much do you think last night was cherry-picking for these people in order to score points? >> some of it certainly was. ten candidates, two hours, not the right form plan i would say there's simply too many candidates on the stage. there's no easy answer. one of the reason the moderators kept moving on, interrupted and seemed chaotic is because there's too many people up there wants their 30 seconds of fame. >> did marco rubio turn a liability into an asset last night when he talked about the editorial that the south florida sun-sentinel had against him that he should resign basically because he was missing votes. watch how marco rubio turned on the media. >> i read that editorial today with great amusement. it's actually evidence of the bias that exists in the american

media. >> in 2004, john kerry ran nor president, missing 60% of his vote. the sun-sentinel endorsed him. in 2008, barack obama missed 60% to 70% of his votes and the same newspaper endorsed him. this is another example of the double standard that exists in america between mainstream and conservative -- >> and the audience ate it up, dillon. >> yeah, to chris' point, is this a tried and true tactic for conservatives? yes. is it red meat for the base? absolutely. it's giving the candidates openings. it wasn't just the cnbc moderators last night. rubio's points about now the sun-sentinel treat him or obama, that's not necessarily wrong, right? if you're a savvy republican candidate, you can find those moments. you've got crack research teams. and you can exploit them. as soon as you call out the

media, you've immediately set up protection for yourself, you know, for any attacks from the media, whether that's the s sun-sentinel or -- >> brian, dillon, thank you for the analysis. great to talk to you this morning. cnn watched the debate with rank and file republicans who are largely undecided. which candidates impressed them the most? >> i'm a business owner. and donald trump is a business owner. he knows the ups and downs of business. i feel like i can resonate with him more. >> we'll hear from real voters, next.

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so, we watched the debate with a group of republican voters. most of them undecided. which candidates made an impression on them. and what did they think of jeb

bush's attack on marco rubio. cnn's randi kaye talking with real voters on real choices. >> good morning, guys, we watched the debate with about 100 voters in hialeah, florida. a lot of them undecided. like this one here with me. mimi. did anyone impress you? >> you know, they all had their moments. rubio had his moment. the one that kind of like pushed me a little was ted cruz, because he came out swinging, you know, with the right questions to the moderators. that was nice. >> and speaking of moments, there was that one moment between jeb bush and marco rubio when jeb sort of criticized him for maybe not doing his job in washington. as jeb bush said. >> marco, when you signed up for this, this is a six-year term, you should be showing up for work. literally, the senate, what is it like a french work week, you get three days to show up.

you can campaign. just resign and let someone else take the job. >>er that has come up that you -- jeb, let me tell you i don't remember you ever complaining about john mccain's vote record the only reason you're doing it now is we're running for the same position and someone has convinced you that we're going to. >> how did he handle himself? >> he handled himself nicely. he's marco rubio, he knows what to say. >> it was a big moment in the debate. you're still torn who to vote for? >> i am. i thought that was a bit childish on bush's part. aid rather hear what his position is, rather than pointing out what rubio has done wrong or not. i think he's come pretty far for his age. >> really. >> yeah, i'm torn. >> who are you leaning towards? >> i'm leaning towards fiorina, but rubio is looking better and better. >> you may have noticed among

the group watching the debate, trrp a few donald trump supporters, including one right here, terry. how do you think trump did. and what is it about him that makes you want to vote for him? >> what i really need to say is that we need to let donald trump continue to do his work. what he's already done for the country, he's changed the way they think already. if you look at the panel of candidates, they're all acting courageous, everybody is saying what they want to say. they're actually mimicking him. why get a fake and copycat. let's go for the real thing. >> what is it donald trump over ben carson? >> i'm a business owner. donald trump is a business owner. he knows the ups and downs of business. i feel like i can resonate with him more g. >> there's your reasoning. we have a couple people undecided. a lot of people telling they they're trying to figure out who to vote for. a lot of time, as jeb bush likes to remind everybody, a lot of

time before this election. >> a lot of time indeed. we'll have more from the voters at the 8:00 hour. stick with us for that. right now, a whole lot of news. let's get right to it. donald trump would be a better president every day of the week and twice on sunday rather than hillary. >> the democrats have the ultimate super pac, call the mainstream media. >> you find a democrat cutting taxes rather than $10, i'll give them a warm kiss. >> we cannot elect somebody that doesn't know how to do the job. >> after the last debate, i was told i didn't smile enough. >> the only reason i have an iphone is because i gave my number to donald trump. >> i'm against anything that's bad for my mother. >> you can campaign or just resign or let someone else take the job. >> do you want me to answer or do you want to answer? even in new jersey what you're doing is called rude. good morning, everyone. welcome back to your "new day."

well, the establishment strikes back. it was not the outsiders this time. but the regular politicians who stole the show in the third republican debate. senator marco rubio emerging with some of the most pointed shots of the night. also senator ted cruz got huge applause by firing at the cnbc moderators. >> always easy to attack the media and score points in politics. but what happened here last night? there was a shift in the race. the front-runner, ben carson and donald trump -- period when you look at the polls but not last night. not in terms of time or context. what does does it mean for the polls? this is a real change. that's a big topic. we're going to speak with four of the candidates themselves who took the stage last night. there they are. how do they feel they did? what do they believe comes next? and we will put them to the test as well. let's bring our comprehensive coverage with j.b., john berman has the highlights of last night's debate. johnny, what did you see? >> we saw some candidates, an

not the front-runners seizing the moment. seizing the stage, marco rubio, ted cruz, taking the spotlight at the expense of the media and also jeb bush. >> reporter: one stage, ten candidates, a world of prickly, squirm in your seat tension. >> folks, we've got to wake up we cannot elect somebody that doesn't know how to do the job. >> reporter: john kasich swinging at donald trump who swung back. >> he was so nice. he was such a nice guy and said oh, i'm never going to attack. but then his poll numbers tanked. that's why he's on the end. >> reporter: jeb bush perhaps missing at his friend and one time protege marco yirubio on t senator's record. >> the senate, what is it like a french work week, you get like three days to show up. >> i don't remember you ever complaining about john mccain's vote record.

the only reason that you're doing it now someone convinced you that attacking me is going to help you. >> reporter: ben carson what what we calls political correctness. >> they shouldn't obviously assume because marriage is between one man and one woman because you're a homophobe. >> reporter: above all, it was everyone hitting the media. >> reporter: especially the debate moderators and questions the candidates deemed confrontational. >> the fact the board fired you, i want to know why we should hire you now? >> why not slow down, get a few things done first or at least start what you started. >> is this a comic book version of a campaign? >> no, it's not a comic book and not very nicely questioned the way you say that. >> the questions asked so far in this debate illustrate why the american people don't trust the media. >> even in new jersey what you're doing is called rude. >> reporter: republican national committee chair reince priebus

agreed. >> i believe it was one gotcha question and one low below. >> reporter: beyond the umbrage, new stretch in new faces. the debate did not focus on donald trump or ben carson. an opening for marco rubio? >> i'm against anything that is against my mother. >> reporter: and ted cruz that intended to patch up with more legal products. >> i'll buy the tequila or colorado browns. >> reporter: and chris christie much more central to the mix, again, going after the moderators for the subject of their questions. >> wait a second, we have $19 trillion in debt, we have people out of work, we have isis and al qaeda attacking us and we're talking about fantasy football? >> reporter: and on a night where many thought that jeb bush needed to break out, he spoke less than the other candidates. a performance that left some cold. despite one hot offer. >> you find a democrat that's

for cutting spending $10, i'll give them a warm kiss. >> reporter: and if some candidates did not leave wearing a smile, at least governor mike huckabee left wearing something memorable. >> well donald trump. he's a good man. i'm wearing a trump tie tonight. get over that one, okay. >> we have yet to hear from governor jeb bush this morning. but we do know the campaign not at all happy with how this debate went last night. at one point last night, late in the in the debate, the campaign manager apparently knocking on the cnbc control room door to demand more time for jeb bush, complaining he wasn't getting enough. >> we will speak with jeb bush's campaign about all of that very soon. just moments away. thanks, john. you just saw a taste of jeb bush there. he needed a big night -- period. this morning, the general consensus is he did not have a big night. dana bash spoke with him after the debate and asked him to assess his own performance.

>> there was a lot of buzz the moment where you went after marco rubio, turned out to be a moment for marco rubio and not you. >> well we'll see. the simple fact is he has the worst attendance record in the united states senate, plain and simple. he has a major newspaper saying he should resign and continue his campaign. if he's not going to resign, he needs to show up and vote. >> your friend ana navarro said on the air that she's feeli ing glum because of the performance you had. >> if they're looking for an entertainer in chief, i'm probably not the guy. if they're looking for a guy with proven results 32 years in the business sector and eight years in conservative and reform in the country, i'm the guy. >> reince priebus came over to us, the debate was barely over, he blasted cnbc for the way they

handled the debate. do you share the frustration? >> yeah, they didn't control the debate. >> he said there were gotcha questions, do you think that's true? >> of course, there were. there were gotcha questions in the other debates as well. >> except cnn. >> am i laughing out loud. it's a long haul, baby. we've got a few more debates to go. i'm outcampaigning everybody. we're working hard. we have the best ground in early states. >> did bush's comeback strategy back fire last night? here to discuss it all is bush's communications director tim miller. thank you for being on "new day." >> hey, thanks for having me. >> tim, it is nice to have you, but with all due respect, where is the candidate? where is governor jeb bush, shouldn't i be speaking to him this morning? >> well, you just heard him last night, governor bush was on with dana last night, he's flying new

hampshire right now. we're going to have some news today and a bunch of big events. he'll be out today. you'll have plenty of time to see him. talked about the debate last night more importantly, let's talk about -- >> let me interrupt you. i want to challenge you for one second. this morning, other candidates have made time to be on our program to give us sort of a post debate wrap-up. we have governor chris christie. we have senator rubio on. governor huckabee. carly fiorina, we hear ben carson wants to call in. shouldn't jeb bush be talking about what happened last night? >> well i'm sorry that you're stuck with me, alisyn. jeb's on a plane to new hampshire. he'll be available this afternoon. you've got a couple of great reporters who follow him around. i'm sure he'll make news when he landed in new hampshire. this is a decathlon, there are a lot of elements to the race. he's getting up there bright and early. he can talk about who is the

person that can do the job. who is the person that can fix d.c. that's not what this is about, not the performers on the stage. who's going to implement conservative policies to help people have a chance to rise up. >> you're his communications director. how do you think that he did last night? >> you know, look, i think that he did the most important thing that he could do which is talk about his record and talk about what he's going to do to help people rise up. as far as the figure skating judges, that's you guys. these debates -- excuse me, this campaign isn't going to be won and lost in october. we've got another one in 11 days. another element to this is what are you doing on the ground in the early states. and do people trust you to do the job as president. for seven years, we've had a good talker in the white house, but he hasn't been a particularly strong president. and i think republican voters are looking for somebody who is able to do the job.

>> yes, of course. but a debate is one way that republican voters get to hear from their candidates. >> true. >> and the general analysis is that governor bush did not live up to what he had to do. politico, walks into rubio's trap. "the new york times," the disciple strikes back. "wall street journal," remember jeb bush, marco rubio fight. let me break into the moment that so many pundits seized upon when jeb bush went after marco rubio for his voting record. and rubio was prepared for that. watch this. >> you can campaign. or just resign and let someone else take the job. there are a lot of people living paycheck to paycheck in florida as well. they're looking for a senator that will fight for them in each and every day. >> the only reason that you're doing it now is because we're running for the same position

and someone has convinced you that attacking me is going to help you. >> did marco rubio get the best of that exchange? >> i don't know, that's for you guys to judge. i think marco obviously is a very talented debater. marco has good zingers. here's the thing, says that long campaign. in the broader debate, in the broader debate over who do voters trust to do the job, marco's been in the senate for six years. he hasn't done anything. he didn't show up for votes not just before he started to run for president. but long before. jeb bush worked every single day. every moment in florida. he had a clock on his desk counting down those eight years to make sure he got as much done as possible for the people of florida. he balanced eight budgets. he turned the educated indication system around. that's what this is about. who can do the job. in that broader debate, who has the leadership skills to get the

job done. jeb is going to beat marco and everybody else on that stage. >> tim, last night, governor bush was asked about his weakness, where he had a real moment of probably honesty where he talks about what his weakness is. let me play that for the viewers. >> i am by my nature and patience and this is not an endeavor that rewards that. you've got to be patient and you got to be stick with it and all of that. but also, i can't fake anger. >> that was an interesting window into his psyche. because manufactured anger and outrage is necessary on the campaign trail. and so is patience. so, you know, he's sort of saying, these are the two weaknesses that might not work in a campaign. what is next for jeb bush's campaign? >> well, first for starters, i was proud that jeb was answering that question. i think everyone else asked that

questionented complimenting themselves. i was proud of jeb's answer. there's a lot of fake anger. online on twitter. people are tired of it. people looking for somebody that's able to fix the problems that we face in d.c. restore america's strength in the world. they have a chance to achieve dreams. that's what jeb is doing. >> tim miller, we appreciate you being on "new day." please tell jeb bush that we invite you on. >> jeb will be with you soon, i promise. >> thanks so much. much more debate coverage ahead. we'll talk live with the candidates coming up on "new day." carly fiorina, senator marco rubioer and in the next hour, governors huckabee and christie join us as well. we start with china. that country is abandonen it's one-child policy and allowing people to have two children.

chinese leaders have been facing pressure to end this five-year policy which was introduced in 1980 to control the country's rapidly growing population. it was relaxed in 2013 to allow people to have two children if one of the parents is an only child. overnight, more stabbing attacks against israeli soldiers. in one of them one shot a palestinian attacker. and another. israeli forces shots and killed that attacker. attorneys for the south carolina police officer who slammed and dragged a female student inside a classroom insist their client's actions were justified and lawful. that officer was fired wednesday. let's get the latest from cnn's martin savidge live in columbia, south carolina. good morning, martin. >> reporter: good morning, michaela. it's the first time that we're hearing from ben fields' attorney. we believe mr. fields' actions

were justified and lawful throughout the circumstances of which he was confronted during this incident." unquote. no sign of remorse there. there's still a federal and local investigation underway. likely, he'll have a number of lawsuits. the sheriff said in firing fields, he's still got to put some blame on the student that started it all. listen. >> the action of our deputies, we take responsibility for that. but we also have to put responsibility on her for disrupting that school, disrupting that class. and causing this incident to start from the very beginning. >> reporter: the attorney that represents that young woman and the other young woman that was arrested during that altercation says that fields' firing for too long didn't go long enough. there are some saying assault charges should be brought against the former officer. >> martin, thank you. the second-tier candidates were looking for an opportunity and they had one.

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perspective. kevin madden, republican strategist, jeffrey lord, trump supporter. and paul bagala. let's talk about your man first, mr. lord. first of all, it's very odd to see you outside of that office. i missed the picture of round reagan. >> it's disoriented. >> you're used to look down on me. now you're doing it figuratively because you're so much smarter. >> your man was relatively quiet last night as was ben carson. do you believe that hurt him? >> no, i think the two of them were cruising along here. i do think the notable fact here is donald trump was fine. ben carson was fine. teld cruz had sort of a breakout moment. carly fiorina was fine. these are the outside candidates and to the extent that marco rubio made progress, it was jousting with mr. establishment,

jeb bush. so i really think it was a good night for the outsiders all the way around. >> kevin, what do you think is the highlight or who? >> i agree with jeff. i don't think ben and trump needed a breakout moment. rubio and cruz definitely seized opportunities to break through. i think cruz in particular had a message that was pitch perfect for voters out in iowa. so i think if anybody is going to get a bump out of this, i would watch for one with cruz in the early state of iowa. i think with rubio, look, he had a moment that helped him with jeb bush. and i think it's going to be one that continues to really help a lot of the -- the establishment buzz around rubio right now is really helping rubio. and i think it is going to help

him continue. that slow steady climb into the lane that jeffrey would agree is say race broken down in anti-establishment and establishment. >> i've got to tell you, it's increasingly confusing to me. i get why you're trying to draw distinction unless field, jeffrey. but begala, i was wrong, you were right. >> just another example of this dynam dynamic. >> first time for anything. >> if you catalog all might have wrong predictions, chris, you'd need like a two-hour segment. >> oh, thank you for being a bigger man, that shocked me. let me ask you this, last night, when you heard marco rubio using tone the way he did to disarm the jeb bush attack, using the connection to his own mother and her interest about his policy. seeing his acumen on the issues,

did you get a little bit of a shiver up the spine? >> oh, he's enormously talented. look, there was a lot of talent on that stage last night. can hillary beat them? yes. rubio turned in a terrific performance. i think jeffrey and kevin are pointing correctly to the fact that he's dispatched jeb. let's just deal with that. jeb is toast. those few at people who have butter, get it out for jeb, he's toast. but i think marco is winning the wrong primaries. he's winning the establishment primary. the guy i've had my eye on nor a long time who i thought was outstanding for a long time was ted cruz. i'm telling you, the two front-runners remain unscathed. mr. trump had his best moment at the end where he talked about his own negotiating skills versus cnbc which is correct. >> jeffrey, is jeb bush buttered

toast this morning? >> yeah. i have to say, i watched that last night, and that was my thought exactly. i was on last night with gloria borger, and i believe she used the term "shakespearen" in terms of the marco/jeb standoff. the new up-and-comer has learned as much as they're going to learn from the mentor and the mentor is not quite ready to get off the stage. it was amazing. i thought governor bush was, frankly, very dispirited last night and afterwards. >> jeb bush seems to be playing politics going after rubio the way he needs to. rubio responded in a very human way, we're not used to seeing that in politics. >> one of the other things, remember the other week when donald trump was at a rally. he used the b.s. words. and was talking about the

supposed friendship between bush and rubio. he mocked them and said, you know, listen, they're out there trying to do one another in. there's no friendship here, boy, ifs there last night -- >> rubio handled it as a friend would, i'll tell you that, not as an opponent. he did jeb a favor that way. kevin madden, donald trump is tweeting that 62% of those who watched the debates say he won. do you question that? >> yeah, i don't know where the methodology is. i'm sure he's looking at some online polls that aren't exactly scientific. look. in the past debates, donald trump has really been center stage. i know he's physically center stage last night. but he didn't control the tempo of the debate the way he has in past debates. the other campaigns weren't as focused as drawing a contrast with donald trump as they were with seizing an opportunity with voters about their own campaign or candidacies. he faded away in the background

but in a way that's not going to hurt him right now. he has had a slight decline but that has more to do with the fact that this race is going to shift less about personalities and more about electing a leader of the free world. and i know jeff will disagree with me, that where is candidates like rubio are going to step up. >> paul, very quickly, we have carly fiorina next. did she do what she had to doey. >> she always turns in a good performance. even though 4% in the polls. she's never yet, it's early, but she's not yet proven that she can consolidate gains from a good debate. i don't see a capacity to consolidate the gains the way donald trump and dr. carson have. >> paul begala, kevin madden, the lord, thank you for being with us. ladies and gentlemen, what did you think about the debate last night? what do you think this morning? tweet us use the #newday.

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when government gets so big and powerful that only the big and powerful can handle it. >> that was carly fiorina last night. she's vowing to be hillary clinton's worst nightmare. she delivered by all pundits this morning. they say it was a solid performance. it was it enough to see a post debate surge in the polls. joining us now is presidential candidate carly fiorina. thanks for being on "new day." how are you doing today? >> doing well. >> how are you doing? >> doing well. do you feel like you did enough in the debate to gain momentum? >> i don't think we ever lost the momentum. i think the momentum is keclear in august i wasn't on the stage. in september, i had to fight my way on to the stage. and last night, i was in the middle of the stage. i'm headed to utah and then on to new hampshire to see donors and supporters and voters. i think that's what we're going to continue to do.

we have another debate in less than two weeks. it's yet another opportunity for me to introduce myself to the american people. i remain the least known candidate in the field. so i feel real good about last night. >> when i say loss of momentum, i talk about what happened after the cnn debate. you had by most accounts a stellar performance. you shot up in the polls to double digits. you became second in the polling. you had 15%. and then after that, there was a sense that you sort of disappeared. at least from the airwaves. it was hard to find you. and your poll numbers did drop. what did you think went wrong after that? >> nothing went wrong, alisyn. we had a very clear strategy. yes i got off of national television for a while. gee, there are a lot of media outlets in places like iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, regional media where voters are and where the stories count in a different way. there's nothing wrong with national media.

obviously, i'm happy to be with you this morning. all i'm saying that national polls especially at this point in a race don't determine a winner. you can look back at 2012 and 2008 and see people who are leading in the polls at this point lost, lost resoundingly. i'm just saying that voters matter and regional media matters. we're very happy with our momentum. very happy with where we are right now and we're going to continue to move forward. >> let's talk about a moment that you had last night. and it was about what barack obama has done for women. you say unemployment among women has spiked. let's listen to that. >> it is the height of hypocrisy, for mrs. clinton to talk about being the first woman president, when ever single policy she espouses and every single policy of president obama has been demonstratively bad for women. 92% -- [ applause ]

92% of the jobs lost during barack obama's first term belonged to women. >> now, according to "the washington post" fact checker, that is a recycled talking point from the mitt romney campaign that they've deemed as false. they say that you were using a very narrow moment in time when unemployment among women has spiked. but since then, the numbers have changed and it's a much rosier picture for women. what's your response? >> first of all, it's "the washington post" that said i wasn't a secretary. from my point of view, they have no credibility, honestly. the statistics are well-known. here's another statistic, if you don't like that one, the extreme poverty rate among women is at the highest level ever recorded. the number of women living in poverty is at the highest number in 20 years. and every single policy that hillary clinton is proposing, demonstratively, we have evidence that suggests it causes women to be fired, not to be

hired. the record's very clear on this. >> but is there newer data available that makes those numbers obsolete that you shouldn't have used the old numbers last night? >> no, absolutely not. this is the same conversation we had after the last debate. everybody came out and said i was using wrong data. no i'm not using wrong data. the liberal media doesn't like the data. perhaps the liberal media didn't like the facts. the facts are clear. women have been hit hardest by his recession an this lackluster economic economy. that's just a fact. women are suffering more than men. by the way, african-americans are suffering as well. all the groups that progressives claim to be helpings are being hurt in this barack obama time. and of course, hillary clinton is going to double-down on every single one of these policies. here's another fact that maybe "the washington post" won't like but it's also true. student loan has doubled under barack obama. why? because barack obama has nationalized the student loan

industry. african-american unemployment remains almost twice as high as white unemployment. maybe they don't like that stat either. but that stat is true. >> during the last debate what people said was erroneous about what you said about the planned parenthood sting videos. and what came out afterwards is that there had been portions that had been edited. do you change your opinion about those now? >> wow, alisyn, i can't believe we're having this controversy, honestly. it's clear now, it's very clear that planned parenthood is harvesting body parts. so clear that they had to announce that they no longer take compensation for it. honestly, this has been hashed and rehashed is there no other issue of economic import to the middle class of the united states of america that you'd like to talk about this morning? >> well, i think we did just cover women and unemployment and the numbers. you gave a lot of stats how you feel women are doing right now. but that was the issue, that

afterwards people went back at you about because they did feel as though those same videos had been edited. and some people, let me go on, even felt that is why your national poll numbers dipped. so i did want to get you on the record on that. >> oh, well, that's quite a theory. well, that's quite a theory. all. stats that i just quoted are true. they're out there. and as i say, it was "the washington post" that said i wasn't a secretary. >> okay. moving forward, you say that that was a strategy, after the cnn debate to just do local media, not do national media. what will you do starting today? what is your strategy, still no national media after this morning, of course. but what is your plan moving forward? and how to sustain the momentum. >> well, look, we're going to spend a lot of time on the ground in these key early states. because, as i've said many times, in the end, voters win elections. we'll see how much media we do. but we're very happy with the

ground game that's out there. we're very happy with the reception we're getting in these key early states. you know, i work all day, every day, sort of eight days on, nine days on, one day off. and we are going to continue to do that. we have another debate in less than two weeks. >> how did you think that donald trump did? i know that you had sparred famously in the previous debate. what do you think about his poll numbers softening somewhat, and his performance last night? >> oh, i'll let the pundits decide what they think about donald trump's performance. i'm really not terribly concerned with other people's performance on that stage. i'm really focused on what i want to say to the american people. so, i'll let you guys decide what you think of donald trump's performance. >> carly fiorina we appreciate you coming on "new day" it this morning. we'll talk again. >> thanks, alisyn. have a great day. >> you, too. let's go to chris. all right. a strong and defensive carly fiorina saying that her numbers are right and that her momentum

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you can campaign or just resign and let someone else take the job. there are a lot of people living paycheck to pay check in florida as we. >> the only reason you're doing it now, you're running for the same position. someone has convinced you that attacking me is going to help you. >> what was supposed to be a layup for jeb bush turned into a slam dunk for senator rubio, cooley defending his record showing a tone that was different for jeb bush than the others. that once again has the pundits saying his name in high regard. this is one of those nights that you want to get up first, because you have a lot to talk about, i'm sure. how did you feel about your performance overall? >> well, we felt good about it, as we did with the other two

debates. the election wasn't decided last night. we'll have another debate in 14 days. that will replace this one. it's part of the process. we're electing someone to the most important political position in the planet. the more we have with voters, the better we feel about it. i felt good about it, on policy details, i thought the heft of this event, cnbc, their known as kind of the wonky financial network. i really thought we can go over the issues favoring our country. hopefully, we'll have a chance to do that in the following debate. >> i was surprised that the field was lumping cnbc in what the field calls the relevant of us which is scum because they are seen as a right establishment. but that's neither here nor there. this is about you guys, not the moderators. tone, content, plans, you got a check from one one of them. starting with tone. jeb bush, you know him well. you call him a friend.

say he was a mentor. the tone you had in response to him, sounded like say friend talking to a friend. what did you want to communicate to him? >> well, my campaign's not going to change. i don't believe the way i'm going to win is by going after him or anybody else. as i said last night, i think someone's convinced him otherwise. that's fine, everyone's going to run their own campaign. it isn't going to change me. i have tremendous admiration for jeb. i think he was a good governor for florida. a great governor for florida. this is not about any of that. it's about who is right for presidency in 2016 in a new era. that's what i'm going to talk about. that's what my campaign is about. that's what i'm going to continue to do or anyone else for that matter. i feel good about that in the long term. >> content flag for language. you said i'm against anything that's bad for my mother. that resonated very well. what does that mean for you in terms of economic policy? >> well, first of all, my mother's sole source of income is social security. they might have a really small

pension, i think $50 a month from kmart. her sole source of income is social security. she relies on medicare for her health care. it's not going to change. she's 85 years old. i shouldn't have said is that. >> oh, boy, marco. >> well let's just say she's on social security and medicare. and, so, she can't afford for that to change for her now. i don't want it. it doesn't have to. but it's going to have to look different for me. it's going to have to look different for my children. it doesn't have to be dramatically different. maybe i have to retire a year later. maybe if i'm financially successful, mine isn't going to grow as much as my parents. maybe i'm using it to buy a private plan that i like better. and after everything that people like my parents and grandparents and your parents and grandparents did for us. if we don't do that, these

programs go bankrupt. we know that for a fact. we need to begin to talk seriously about how to save the prime minist programs, and people goring to be impacted. and we're starting to see that with the social security disability fund. >> we have peel living longer. we're not getting as many workers to replace them. and pay as you go model of social security and medicare. it's interesting, because you're talking about incremental changes, and that's going to draw stark distinction with other members of the gop who either say completely scrap it. that's very extreme. and almost exclusively ben carson at this point even he stepped off of that with medicare. but let's dig into it. i understand your mom is 65 years old. she's drawing social security. would you be in favor of what types of specific changes to keep social security and other entitlements alive? >> well, that's right. as i told people, i'm scheduled

to retire at 67 under current law. maybe i have to retire at 68 or 68 1/2. the truth is, people in my generation are going to be very productive well into their 70s. the fact of the matter is, if we don't do changes like that, the program won't exist. it will be bankrupt. >> would you change it from defined benefits as it is now, to just the savings account which many in the gop suggest you control your own money and you get out of it what you wind up putting into it, versus an investment? >> yeah, i think the time for that really has passed. particularly after the instability we've seen in the years past in the stock market and so forth. i think we leave it as a defined benefit at this point. i want to make it easier for people to be able to invest money in like we said, like a 401(k) or something of that nature. i talked about changes that we can make there as well. one of the questions raised last night was millions of americans that don't have access to a vehicle. if you work for an outfit that

doesn't have a 4 och01(k), then invest in one that has it. and this is an issue that is going to impact our country. it's a predictable crisis for the reasons you've outlined. that is people are going to live longer than ever. that's get news. the bad news is, there aren't as many workers paying into the system. in a system 2 to 1 in a system that was designed for 60 to 1. >> how do you sell that to members of your party who says, no, the private secretary certificate way, marco? we have to make this as private as possible. stop saying you're going to work with the dem the catocrats theyg to spend their way. how do you convince the factions of your own party to listen to what you're saying? >> i would just say when it comes to this issue of social

security and medicare, these programs enjoy strong support in the republican party. it is a reality. and you can't yank it away from them. there's diversity of ideas. it's good. we should have a debate. no one sheer the reseceptacle o all great ideas in the world. what i'm not going to do is raise taxes or ignore the problem. or tell people, you know, at the end of the day there's no problem with this. anyone who says you can leave the perhaps exactly the way they are is not being honest. there's going to have to be changes for future generations if we want to keep it exactly the way it is for current beneficiaries. >> certainly a big discussion to have for the current situation. but also as you've outlined for future generations starting with our own. one of the points of criticism that came up in that big moment with jeb bush was your voting record. i want to give you a chance to come at it directly. there's no question when you

graph the votes missed. you've seen the spike as you decided to run. that's not unusual. the question is, what do you say to people who say, you're running for president or operatoring as senator, it's hard to do both. and the proof of that is, you wounds up spiking into the 99 percentile of missed votes and that does speak to some as not doing the job as well as you could? >> well first of all, the mass majority of work is direct constituent veteran. we have to help them. or the elderly couples that walk in because they've fallen victim of tax frautd. and we are directly involved in these issue. we're going to continue to provide that service. it's the thing i'm most proud of. as far as missing votes, i don't like missing votes. i hate it. we will definitely be will for any vote in which our vote would be decisive in making a difference on the outcome. but here's what i would hate

more. and that is to wake up on the first wednesday in november 2016 to the news that hillary clinton has been elected president of the united states. because that means the next four year, going to be like or worse than the last eight years, and our country can't afford we're going todont serve the people of florida. and we're going to run aggressively because i believe the time has come for a new generation of leaders so the next congress when they start taking votes on some of these issues they will be meaningful votes because there is actually going to be a is the president that is going to work to sign them into law. >> i grew up in a house where my father was a politician. we went after the media all the time. but it did seem a little last night it went into a little into pandering. you said you believe the media

is a super pack in favor of hillary clinton. we often ask to have you on the show. the invitation certainly extends going forward. is all the media the same? >> no all the media is not the same but by and large last week the testimony before the benghazi committee and this that testimony it was revealed that hillary clinton knew that the attack was been terrorists. al qaedalike terrorists. and for a week they were going around telling families of the victims and the american public it was due to a video. and the reason they did is because it was in the midst of the presidential election in which al qaeda was defeated and on the run. and that reaction countered that narrative. and that was revealed last week and yet the media hailed her performance as incredible. i thought it was a week she was exposed of lying about benghazi. for me it was an example of the

bias. >> you say all media is not the same. it's good to hear because it seemed like that last night coming from the panel. and i see why it plays well to partisans. here is the situation. i've gone after what hillary said in that hearing a lot and getting b inting beaten up on t a result but that's part of the job. and she said it wasn't a lie. she thought that was what it was. the cia came out and changed their reckoning of what it was so she changed it so certainly it wasn't a lie and she was following cia guidance. >> there wasn't a single person on the ground near those people in benghazi and she shad access to these people. not a single person on the ground believes it was a spontaneous up arising. there was no report of the protests in that area. everybody on the ground knew that. all they had do was talk to people in benghazi which she could have done.

survivors and other whose responded to the attack. and they could tell you they knew it was an organized and orchestrated effort. they also should have known because that consulate was already had come under a previous attack in the past. not at that scale and scope but it had already come. the brits left benghazi. the red cross closed its facilities. if that facility was going to remain open, which was questionable. but if it was it should have had a lot more security in place than it had. the compound was easily breached and led -- >> that's a fair criticism. and you certainly understand the situation well and the policy considerations around it. but i'm just saying a big part of your campaign is saying i'm a new generation. i'm different. i don't play the same games these guys do. you showed last night when bush came at you. how can it be a lie if it's true that hillary clinton changed her understanding of what had happened because the cia told her something different. had you been in her position and the cia said no secretary it

wasn't terrorists, it was this spontaneous thing here and this is why we think it. would you have not followed them? >> no. she consistently privately told people over and over again that this was led by al qaeda like elements. there was never a shred of evidence presented to anyone that this was spontaneous. and the cia understood that. and beyond that she went well beyond the period of time in which that was in question. she went past a week and still saying that is the spontaneous uprising because it furthered a political narrative the administration had settled on. maybe she was trying to t.b. a team player but i thought there was a moment. where they should have said the families of these victims deserve the know and people and so do the american people. and i'm not going to change what i believe to be true based on narrative you are asking me to further. and the after the attacks she refused to go on the sunday

shows. clintons are one of the self preservation and that was one of her going on the shows and saying that. >> the question was why she was doing it. but be sure of this senator. i will never ask you to forward some narrative just because i want it to be true. and the invitation to have you on "new day" extends. congratulations on last night. everybody is saying you did very well. good luck to you going forward. thanks for being on "new day." >> thank you. okay. we have more candidates to talk to. republican presidential hopeful chris christie getting high praise for blasting debate monitors over their questions last night. so will his performance change the race? governor christie joins us live just ahead. 6

he was so nice. he was such a nice guy. but then his poll numbers tanked. that's why he's on the end. >> marco, you should be showing up to work. literally the senate, what is it? like a french workweek? >> someone is convincing you that attacking me is going the help you. >> the questions illustrate why the american people don't trust me. >> this is a bunch of crap. >> we have isis and al qaeda attacking us and we're talking about fantastic football? could we stop? >> i'm worried about bankrupting the american people. >> i'm hillary clinton's worst nightmare. >> i'm wearing a trump tie tonight. is it made in china or mexico? i have no idea. good morning. welcome to your "new day." it is thursday october 29th, 8:00 in the east and the republican race has changed. did you see the debate last

night. don't worry we had john burman watch it for you. he sleeps about 18 minutes a night so it was fine. trump, carson, quiet. not really in the limelight. other names now getting a chance. rubio, christie, cruz. what is the a state of play now. >> not o a lot of fireworks from the carson and trump. will they hold their lead in the top of the polls? this hour we speak with christie and huckabee about their debate performances. first cnn's coverage begins with john berman. he stays up so we don't have to. >> it was hard to sleep. there was serious drama last nightality i felt on edge the whole time with these candidates seizing the spotlight, taking control of the stage and they did so at the expense of the media and also jeb bush. one stage, ten candidates. a world of prickly, squirm in

your seat tension. >> folks we got to wake up. we cannot elect somebody who doesn't know how to do the job. >> john kasich swinging at trump who swung back. >> he was so nice. oh i'm never going to attack. then his poll numbers tanked. >> jeb bush swinging and perhaps missing at his friend and one time protege marco rubio. on the senator's spotty attendance record. >> when you signed up this was a six year term. and you should be showing up to work. literally the senate, what is it a french workweek? three days you have to show up? >> yorm you ever complaining about john mccain's vote record the only reason you are now is someone's convinced you it's. >> because it is marriage between one man and one woman that you are a homophobe.

>> above all, way above all, it was everyone hitting the media sf. especially the debate moderators and the questions the candidates deemed confrontational. >> your board fired you. i just wonder why you think we should hire you now. >> why not slow down? get a few things done first. or at least finish what you start. >> is this a comic book version of the presidential campaign. >> no and it's not a very nice question the way you say that. >> the questions asked so far in the debate illustrate why the american people don't trust the media. >> even in new jersey what you're doing is called rude. >> republican republican national committee chair reince priebus agreed. >> it was one gotcha question, one low blow after the other. >> for long stretches the debate did not focus on front runners trump or carson. an opening for marco rubio. >> i'm against anything that's

bad for my mother. >> and ted cruz, who offered to patch things up with the moderators with now legal in colorado products. >> i'll buy you tequila or even some famous colorado brownies. >> and once again goin' to the moderator for the subject of their questions. >> wait a second. we have 19 trillion in debt. people out of work and isis and al qaeda attacking us. and we're talking about fantasy football? >> on a night where many thought jeb bush needed to break out he spoke less than the other candidates, a performance that left some cold, despite one hot offer. >> you find a democrat that's for cutting taxes, cutting spending ten dollars, i'm give them a warm kiss. >> and if it's not for candidates leaving wearing a warm smile. at least huckabee left with

something memorable. >> i'm wearing that trump tie tonight. >> during the debate. the campaign manager danny diaz was outside the cnbc control room door, banging on the door because the campaign very unhappy with the time that jeb bush was being given. >> stay with us if you would john. thanks for all after that breakdown. we also want to bring in our cnn political comment at a political commentators. >> i still believe in a man called jeb. >> okay. let's talk about that anna. >> all right. >> how are you feeling this morning? what did you think f his performance is this. >> well sleep deprived would be one word. i didn't like that performance yesterday. i didn't like the entire debate. certainly for me it makes my teeth hurt to see jeb and marco

go after each other it's frustrating for me. jeb bush is the most qualified man to be president on that stage. he's got the best record and he's getting outdebated by people who have no record, who have done nothing who are have no legislative accomplishments. jeb has the best policies. he's been rolling out policies and he's been campaigning his, you know, tail off. but he has got to figure a way how to sleigh and kill this debate boogy monster. >> he's not just a boogie monster. why isn't he out there making the case for himself? he's never been on the show. doesn't go on a lot of the shows. where is he? why is he hiding from the race? >> i don't think he's hiding from the race. he gave dara a fairly extensive interview last night. this morning i suspect he's in transit to new hampshire. >> that is what his campaign said and they thought that was more important thang doing

national media se. what did you see last night. >> we saw rubio doing what it seems as if conservatives really want. they want you to win. and whatever attack comes his way, whether a legitimate criticism or illegitimate criticism -- and he got a bunch of them last night -- he was ready and he found the way to win the point. and contrasting that with jeb bu bush, it looked almost like mcenroe and federer out there. mcenroe will complain and federer will just win the shot. i think that's what a lot of voters really liked about marco's performance last night. jeb didn't seem to understand the political theater. when marco rubio scores a huge applause line on an issue, don't then attack him on that issue and then expect to win it. i think people who were worried

about marco rubio's ability to go the distance, to fight up against someone like hillary clinton for example. i think those fears were allayed last night. he was ready. >> i think she's completely right. and the jeb does not like the political theater part of it. he said it himself. he said it to dana bash yesterday. but he has an aversion to to being not authentic. he has an aversion to performing. it is part of the job description. he's got to tackle it and he's got to get it done. there's what? 10, 11, 12 days before the next debate. i think it's very important to clock in a very good performance on the tenth. >> he said to dana last night. if you want an entertainer in chief i'm not your guy. i don't think that is what this is about. this is not about just trump. this is about your passion to make your own message. last night many of our guests today is saying you know carson and trump did okay just to let

it go. they will stay fine. and with carson that may even benefit. but in reality you are only as good as your performance in terms of convincing people that you believe what you believe, you are who you are and you are the right person. >> what is jeb bush's connection right now with the republican voting base? he has to connect with republican voters and there is limit eviden little evidence right now based on polls and performances that's happening at all. you have donald trump and ben carson. you can see the results 23489 polls. rubio and cruz who last night i think you saw a generational change in the republican party. these 43, 44-year-old guys seize that moment in a way from their uncles and fathers like jeb bush who had within running the party for a lining time. paul rhiyan at 43 is going to te over as speaker of the house today. jeb bush has to prove he's part of this new movement or get out.

2006 in the florida governor's chair isn't enough anymore. >> one there is two skill sets. one is a performer and that is not necessarily his strong suit but governing may be his strong suit and that is of course a different skill set being president. so what is jeb going to do from here? >> i think he's got to focus the next ten days on being able to debate very well on november 10th. he's got practically every other part down pat. he's got the finances. he's got the structure. he's got the best team on the ground. he's got great policies that he's been rolling out week after week. but, you know, this thing is really causing him some harm. and he has got to tackle it. he's got to get over this idea that doing performances is in a way selling out. it is not. it is part of the job description. embrace it. have fun with it and learn how to do it.

>> the concern they have the best everything. but every time they go on the field they get they are butts whooped. that's a big task. one thing. john made a point about the generational shift. rubio was just on the show talking about entitlements and he had a much more progressive look about incremental change unlike what you usually hear about the gop and entitlements which is usually in some form of scrap it. >> yeah. and that's been a problem for marco rubio on this and other issues like immigration with the base for his, you know, career in the senate. this might finally start to pay dividends now that he's running for president if he can get through a primary. look, ted cruz had a great night last night. and if ben carson's numbers deflate, i imagine a lot of those voters go to ted cruz. so he will be formidable.

and those two are very good interesting contrast to each other. they both i think offer positive, optimistic solutions for the future but in very, very different ways and they have a different tone as well. they speak to different people. so it is possible that a marco's, you know, moderate label which used to be a slam could end up helping him inch closer towards a general election. it all really just depends on which kind of conservative voters come out in this primary. >> john, you studied this stuff. has the landscape shifted this morning? >> well the big unknown is this. donald trump and ben carson. we're not even talking about the two out in front of the polls. out in front not by a little, but by a lot. >> that's because they weren't talking last night john. although trump says 62% say he won. >> -- donald trump -- sorry, ben

carson first of all, he never comes to these debates. he's on the stage but it doesn't appear that he wants to campaign with the audience. we don't know why he's up 28% right now and potentially growing. and donald trump is still going very strong right now and did not have a bad debate. he may not be in the center of the debate last night but what he said in some ways a lot less controversial than in last debates. >> right. it may be just fine that he had that 28 minute silence. >> but there will be a new focus on bush and cruz going forward. >> i think jeb still has time to turn this around but he has got to do it in the next 11 days before the next debate are crucial. he needs to hone down and just tackle this. kill it dead, jeb. >> slay the dragon, anna.

an anna, se, john. thank you so much. chris christie getting strong reviews for his campaign performance. we're talking to him live next. you totalled your brand new car.

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big night last night. no question about that. but the issue is why? what worked last night? whom did it work for? they certainly didn't go after

each other. and they went after the moderators. and they did go after hillary clinton. and enough to --. good to have you with us this morning ax. when you look at it last night. they went after her. there was the v.a. stuff. there was the idea of her with jobs as an extension of the obama administration. what did you see in terms of targeting hillary clinton and where it was effective? >> obviously the vulnerability that people have been working is the consistency piece. i don't think she was particularly dusted up in that debate last night. i think they were much more intent on going after each other. obviously what they did to do is affirm they believe she's going to be the nominee and she probably is going to be the nominee. i did hear marco rubio on your

broadcast a little earlier and i have to say one point about the benghazi thing. i was the senior strategist for the campaign in 2012 and i remember distinctly i used to brief all of the administration figures for sunday shows. i remember after that event i was asked not to go on a briefing with susan rice because they didn't feel it was appropriate for the political guy to go on there. and honestly chris, if they had wanted to talk about benghazi from that date all the way to the election we would have said fine. because the economy was the issue that we were concerned about in that election. so i really don't -- you know, there is a lot of mythology about what happened back then -- >> [ inaudible ]. >> -- >> what is the answer to rubio's concern. which is the gop spin is it was proven in the committee hearing. she lied. right after benghazi she was telling friends, close associates family it was a terrorist attack and then she

switched. the left says she didn't switch. the cia gave her guidance. rubio doesn't buy it in terms of timing or in terms of inclination. >> look, but the premise is you have to go to the motive. the motive he suggested was that the obama administration didn't want to concede that there was an al qaeda involvement or that there was a terrorist involvement. and i'm just telling you that is nonsense. there wasn't that concern. i think that the situation was very very confused at the time because of the nature of these events and the place and where it happened. you know, i think they are trying to manufacture a story to go -- to back up a charge. and hillary can speak for herself. i'm not here as the spokesperson for here. but i was a witness to what happened at that time. and as the political person i could tell you there was no great -- there was great concern about what happened to ambassador stephens and the people with him but there is no

great concern about the politics of that at the moment. that wasn't driving what was going on there. >> you mentioned the term hillary wasn't do dusted up. and funny you should say that. because she put out a little video on her take in the debate in which she appears to be dusting off her shoulders as though it's just lint on her. i was saving it for the kicker. but i don't -- >> no this this is the hearing of her where she was brushing off her lapel and people said she was brushing off the questioning. >> i see. the hashtag is gop debate. let's talk about who might have been dusted up. and that was jeb bush. what do you think it did for him? >> i think it put him in a really dangerous position. he already had a confidence problem among his supporters and

every bit of evidence has pointed to a flagging campaign. there was a "new york times" poll this week that showed that just 18% of republicans said they would be enthusiastic if he were the nominee of the party. and so he needed to do something last night to energize people and to make them believe that he could actually do this. and he failed spectacularly. and the worst was that he tried to tackle his protege marco rubio and he landed up face down on the field. and rubio was just too agile for him. and he looked very weak in that moment. i think he's got a big problem. i appreciate anna's valiant effort to try and buck him up there. but really you have one more debate as mentioned in a couple of of weeks. he flooelds to turn this arou-- to turn this around in a hurry

or i think he's going to have an out migration of support. >> also known as an exodus of support. >> thank you. >> one thing i will tell you we learned last night from donald trump is that he packs. right? he carries a gun. so i think having heard your interviews with him, you should be happy he calls in. that was my first reaction to that. >> thank you david. he's inveigling us. thanks so much. we always appreciate your inveigling. >> nice to see you guys. >> let's get over to michaela. >> these long words alisyn. that's an $11 one i'm going to say. i'm keeping track. governor cris dris getting high marks last night. is it a turning point for his campaign? we'll ask him himself. he joins us next in'

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last night's gop debate allowed some candidates to come

to the fore who have not been fairing well in the polls. one of them is governor chris christie. great to see you this morning. >> great to be back. >> your poll numbers before this debate have not been stellar. i think you have been 3%. you narrowly made the main debate stage. what do you think happened last night that might have ignited some momentum. >> i think once again we talked about the issues that american people truly care about. and we showed that i'm tested, i'm ready, i'm mature and i'm a fighter. and i'm the kind of person you are going to want on the stage, you are going to need on the stage to take on hillary clinton next september. because the differences i have with her are profound much more than the ones i have on the stage with the others last night. they need someone who's going to be tough, a fighter but also who has been tested. and i think we've shown we can hold our own much more than the others on the stage last night. >> fact checkers have been

working over time to check what the candidates said. and i want to play one of a clip of what you said last night they believe is a mischaracterization. listen to this. >> the president's appointed fbi director has said this week that because of a lack of support for politicians like the president of the united states that police officers are afraid to get out of their cars, that they are afraid to enforce the law and he says -- the president's appointee -- that crime is going up because this. and when the president of the united states goes out to speak about it does he support police officers. does he stand for law enforcement? no he doesn't. >> so the fact checkers. say the advent of cell phone video and then being captured on cell phone is having this effect. not that they are afraid of crime. and they consider that a mischaracterization. >> well they are wrong. they are wrong and they should read what the fbi director said. >> he did say cell phone --

>> and they were fearful to get out of the their cars. >> there was anecdotal evidence somebody had told him high school kids had their cell phones raised at their shoulders and the cops didn't want to get out and be caught on cell phone. that is what director comey said. >> that is not all he said. and i'm sorry, i just disagree. and do you know what? fact checkers have shown themselves to be wrong just as often as they have been right. i know jim comey. he was my boss and colleague at one time. and i can tell you this. when crime is going up. murder is going up 19% in chicago. 11% in new york. another police officer killed in new york this past week. i wonder if mayor de blasio still thinks new york is safer now that it's ever been. it's a fantasy. and others who coddle those who

are causing these problems are making our law enforcement officers feel less safe in this country and it is causing crime to increase. when i'm president of the united states i will support law enforcement. if there is a bad police officer who does something wrong they deserve to be prosecuted and they will be. but we are not going to leave law enforcement out there unprotected and unsupported which is what barack obama and hillary clinton and some of these other liberal mayors across the country are doing. >> and there is a term for police officers not wanting to patrol because they might be caught on cell phone and people have been calling it "the ferguson effect." do you believe there was the forgeten effect? >> no. what i believe is there is a president of the united states who encouraging lawlessness. or legalize marion in in the state i'm standing? or whether or not supports police officers. that's what's causing this.

the obama/clinton effect. >> let's talk about something that some people consider lawless or at least on the edge and that is gambling and fantastic football. and if those two meet you got a big laugh line last night when you were asked about fantasy football. let's listen. >> are we -- >> we have -- >> government involved in fantasy football? wait a second. we have $19 trillion in debt. we have people out of work. we have isis and al qaeda attacking us and we're talking about the fantasy football? >> so governor people in the room seemed to like that. but jeb bush gave an answer to that and he said that he does believe that fantasy football needs to be regulated. why did you dodge that question? >> i i didn't dodge the question. the it is a stupid question. in the context of everything we're dealing with in this country, you think the 40-year-old landscaper sitting out watching who's struggling

every day to make ends meet for his family and who he employs gaves a darn about whether they regulate fantasy football? no. and it's a stupid idea. but when he entertain these ridiculous questions from the media we empower them. and my point is there is lots of important issues to talk about and only two hours. let's talk the important issues. $19 trillion in debt. a crumbling entitlement program. isis and al qaeda plotting against the united states. let's talk about the important issues. i was just saying what the american people are really thinking. are you kidding me? fantasy football in a presidential debate? it's ridiculous. and i'm at least going to stand up to these moderators and these debates. i'm not going to allow them to ask stupid questions and i'm not going to let them continue to

have their bias show like i it showed last night. >> one more thing you did last night. you made a prediction about the democratic side of the race. i'll just read it. you made this about hillary clinton. she won't get within ten miles of the white house. take it to the bank. now the polls suggest that she might get within ten miles of the white house. in head to head national polls at the moment against the front runners she's neck and neck. >> you have to read the whole quote. that's why you should have played the video. what i said was if you put me on the stage against hillary clinton next september i guarantee she won't get within ten miles. if we don't put someone mature and tested and ready on that stage then she'd have a chance. but if i'm the nominee she's not going to have a chance and that was the entire quote. >> right. let me play that for you.

just to make the point to our viewers of what the entire clip is. i believe we do have it. here we go. >> i don't see a lot of weakness on the stage quite frankly. where i see the weakness in the three people left on the democratic stage. i see a socialist, and an isolationist and a pessimist. and for the sake of me i can't figure out which one is which. but i will tell you this. the socialist is going to pay for everything and give you everything for free except don't tell you they are going to raise the taxes to 90% to do it. and then the --. but i know who the pessimist is. it's hillary clinton. and you put me on that stage against her next september, she won't get within ten miles of the white house. take it to the bank. >> okay. . so now let's really do the math. she's polling at 50% in iowa i think 62%. here is her against the current front runner. she gets 50. he gets 45%.

once again before the debate you were something like 3%. so how can you say that with such confidence? >> because i've been this tough battles before? i've been elected governor in one of the bluest states in america against an incumbent who out spent me three to one and i beat him. and against a female state senator four years ago who had the support of the democratic party and i beat her in a democratic state where there's more democrats than republicans and we haven't elected a republican to the senate in 43 years. i know how to win these races. i've done it twice in new jersey. i'm experienced, tested and i'm ready. put me on the stage one-on-one with hillary clinton you are going to be calling me mr. president. >> we appreciate you coming on "new day." thanks so much for the time. >> always great to be on. thanks for having me.

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last night's presidential debate was a chance to take on the front runners trump and carson and they did. joining us now former arkansas governor mike huckabee. governor, good to be with you. there is a consensus that the race changed last night. do you agree with that? and if so, why and who distinguished themselves? >> i think the race is going to change a lot of times between now and the first votes being cast. which really won't be until february. so, you know, we've seen this race change. it's gone up. it's gone down. the front runners will change. this happens every four years and sometimes people act like oh my gosh the race has changed. chris it always happens like that. we'll see where it goes. but who's doing well february 2, when the iowa caucus voters assemble, we'll see.

>> why were you wearing a the trump tie last night? >> honestly it is one of my fair tie -- favorite ties. it was interesting question. i wanted to talk about others things and i said you know i'm wearing a donald trump tie. so what do i think about donald trump? he makes some pretty darn good ties. >> i didn't expect i was going to get a donald trump question. i thought we were going to focus on the economy. that is what we were told. cnbc said this is going to be a serious discussion about the economic issues facing our country. i don't know how my opinion of donald trump has anything to do with the economy of america. honestly it is one of my favorite ties. it is my granddaughter scarlet's

favorite color, purple. i wore it because i thought she would love to see it. and i thought if you are going to ask a question a that's so silly, then let's get even silly. >> very good. we'll leave the tie alone. let's talk about economic policy. you said something about social security last night. do we have it to play? all right. here it is. >> people paid their money. they expect to have it. and if -- if this government doesn't pay it, then tell me what's different between the government and bernie madoff who sits in prison for doing less than what the government has done the people on social security and medicare in this country? >> as you know you really have two problems with social security. you have thank god people are living longer. and you don't have as many workers replacing so the ratio is off in the pay to play method. the second is the borrowing that's going on in the social

security and trust specifically. that's started with the in reagan administration specifically. so where do you lay blame right now. >> on washington. they have stolen money out. and it's been going on for decades. just yesterday they took another $150 billion out of social security so that they could put this debt ceiling together and that deal together and artificially inflate the budget for another couple of years. they took $700 billion out of medicare. stole it right out of medicare to pay for obamacare. and we wonder why these programs are going broke. part is the funding mechanism. and one of the reasons, chris, that i strongly favor, getting rid of the current tax code and replacing wit the consumption tax called a fair tax which really benefits people at the bottom of the economy most. but you establish a stabilized funding stream for social security medicare. right now the only people paying in are the people who get wages

for a living, are the self employed. and most is coming by capital gains. in not coming by wage earners. >> do you have a plan that would past enough muster. the criticism of the straight consumption is you would nlt have enough must have. >> it's designed to replace it. but it doesn't penalize people's productivity. what it does do is bring about $21 trillion of off shore capital back to this country. i think that boosts the economy a little bit chris. if you had trillions of dollars that would come back to america that's being chased out of the country because people are protecting it from a very, very high tax rate, the highest corporate tax rate in the world. but the beauty is that it really benefits workers because they get their whole paycheck, nothing taken out anymore. most americans have never seen their full paycheck. the took it out.

and now we find the government not only took t away from them but they blew it. they spent it on something other than people who paid it in. and that is why we have to have some serious changes on the way we deal and structure our economy. >> you said closing last night i don't want to have to walk my grand kids of the wreck offense what using to be america. i want to remind something you said about the supreme court and see how you feel about it now. let's play it. >> well, but the supreme court can't make law. they interpreted law. but the supreme court can't make it. only congress can make law. and another thing i think we sometimes miss is the supreme court can be browrong. the dread scott decision of 1847 said black people weren't fully human. that was the law of the land. >> there's no question the supreme court can be wrong.

everything that's human can be wrong. but you do know that the supreme court does make the supreme law of the land. its interpretation of the constitution is definitive on what the constitution means as it applies to law, right? >> no chris. that's not rights. ninth grade physics tells you there's three a branches of the government. and the legislature has their role. and the court didn't make to make law. they interpret it. but it requires the agreement of the executive. >> judicial review. >> judicial review is established. but go back and read what jefferson said. he said if you let the court make law and they become a governing body. that is unconstitutional. >> it is not un -- >> -- [inaudible]. >> if the supreme court looks at

the specific case and says on this case and the relevant issue, the constitution says x and therefore this is the law and therefore this is not, that's it. and you do not need operative legislation to make that law. by which to say kentucky does not need a state law to reflect that men and men or women and women can now marry and get the same rights. that is my point. >> chris, you would have hate -- >> not about the opinion of it. i'm. >> everyone disagrees with you. >> that's your opinion. >> you don't need -- to. >> i'm telling you here the equal branchs of government. one doesn't have superiority over the other two. and if you let five lawyers make law then they now rule 320 million americans. you have got to get back to the

fundamentals. we have allowed the supreme court to pretend they are a legislative body but they are most certainly not. they are the supreme court. they have the ultimate decision to interpret a law. but if the executive and legislative branches we fuse to follow it and they ignore it, or they decide it is not true and they don't put it into the operation, then it is not going to be operational. when the supreme court made decisions in my state of arkansas and they decided on a school funding case, they could say that we what we did was unconstitutional and frankly they did. in that case chris they were right. but we just didn't start sending out checks the next day to school districts. do you know can why? because we didn't have the legislative authority. we had a session. passed a funding formula. i signed it and then i ordered the department of education to send checks. you don't just do it because someone wrote an opinion. >> appreciate you clarifying. i understand your point. i'm just saying there is no operative legislation needed for

same-sex marriage once the court decided it was covered under the constitution. i look forward to continue these conversations going forward. we'll always talk policy here on "new day." thanks feedback for being with us. >> you bet. a lot of analysis as you have heard but at the end of the day it is all up to you, of course the voters. next we're talking to republican voters. what did they take away from last night? ans could significantly impact your healthcare costs. are you getting all the benefits you're entitled to? call healthmarkets and we'll help you find the right medicare plan. hi, i'm doctor martin gizzi. it's a new medicare year. that means more changes ... and more confusion. my advice? don't go it alone. you can get smart, unbiased help finding the right coverage for you. call healthmarkets today. we search thousands of medicare plans from leading insurance companies. plans that may... cost less... cover more ... with more choices... like dental and vision care ... and freedom to choose your own doctors, all at

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you can campaign. or just resign and let someone else take the job. there are a lot of people in florida living paycheck to paycheck as well. >> the only reason you are doing it now is because we're running for the same position and someone has convinced you that attacking me is going help you. >> that was one of the night's most talked about moments. joining us --

former assistant to governor george pataki. great to have all of you with us. you're undecided? you voted for george pataki. why do you support him. >> i feel as the voters last night they were kind of all over the place. i would have liked a little more sincerity. senator ted cruz didn't even answer the question on the debt ceiling. i want more substance on how small business owners will thrive in the new century. >> you blame the candidates not the moderators. the moderators were getting heat but you wanted the candidates to answer more thoroughly. >> absolutely. >> john, who do you think won? >> i think the loser in it is definitely the moderators. the winner in my opinion rubio walked away talking to the broad based demographic. when he said he had to explain to his wife are why a lady named

sally mae is taking so much. >> and what did you think of trump and carson last night. >> i think they were trying to lay back, for lack of a better word just chill out. make sure they didn't -- >> mess it up? >> -- mess up. they are so far ahead in the polls they feel they like they didn't really need to make a mark. >> some felt this was a make or break moment for jeb bush. how do you think he did? >> absolutely. and as a former governor he has a great track record. and i would clearly see last night there was some contention between him and rubio. >> they were friends, we've heard. and one was sort -- jeb was sort of a mentor to marco. but you felt tension last night.

>> there was definitely tension. you could see it. and i like that rubio bounced back. and he said you know what? i didn't know there was a line to run. he's a young guy. he's capable. ready, willing and able and has a vision for this new century. and the sun sentinel endorsed him and now they want to kick him out. he's going to be traveling and fundraising and trying to do the best he can in this race. >> so you liked his response to missing votes. >> absolutely. >> john what do you think? >> this is the third debate and i don't think jeb showed up yet. i think going forward i think it is going to hinder his fundraising perhaps. i don't think he -- he didn't answer the question. why are you answering a question being proud of your fantasy football picks when you should have just deflected it and went to your record and your tax plan. >> he should have just dismissed the question. >> he should have said look. and pivot and went and talked

about his record in america. he talks about getting to 4% growth but i don't think he's given enough details how he needs to get there. >> any questions after anybody drops out how do you think the field changes? >> i don't think the field changed at all. i think everybody held their own. and i don't think anybody really moved at all. >> great to get the support of real voters. thanks so much. newsroom picks up right after this quick break. k4r7

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and good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. john boehner about to say goodbye. after a quarter of a century in the house of representatives and a combined five years as the leader of that body, house speaker john boehner of ohio is calling to order his final session and preparing to hand over the gavel to his replacement. the vote to elect paul ryan as speaker will take place this hour but not before boehner bids final farewell to his' e colleagues and washington. but we begin with washington's third republican debate. and they came out swinging. marco rubio shines while jeb bush falls flat. one of the biggest showdowns.

bush slammed rubio's voting record. and rubio scoring major points after fending off that attack. and the. >> this is not a cage match. and you look at the questions. donald trump, are you a comic book villain. ben carson, can you do math. john kasich. will you insult two people over here. jeb bush. why have your numbers fallen? how about talking about the substantive issues people care about. >> i never said is that. >> apologies i -- >> does that speak to your vetting process or judgment in any way? >> no it speaks to be the fact that -- >> [ boos ] >> wait a second. we have 19 trillion in debt. people out of work. isis and al qaeda attacking us and we'