we are learning new details this morning of the final seconds before a russian passenger jet crashed killing all 224 people on board. now egypt maintains no foul play is suspected, but the investigation into what caused the crash is under way. plus, breaking overnight. search teams locate wreckage they believe is el faro. the cargo ship disappeared with 33 people on board during hurricane joaquin. in texas, families remembering victims of some brutal weather. >> we are hoping and praying and holding out hope that --

>> we know she's up there and, you know, in a better place and she is smiling down on us and she is our little angel now. >> a slow moving storm dumps more than 15 inches of rain in some places. it sparks tornadoes and now there is even more rain on the way. it is so good to have you with us this morning. thank you for making time for us. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. we start our coverage in egypt where the investigation into the crash of metro jet flight 9268 is now ongoing in the sinai is a peninsula. russian and egyptian teams are working in tandem trying to recover the bodies of the victims and comb through this crash site. 224 people were on board when that plane went down. there are no survivors. in the meantime, we are getting these new pictures of the wreckage and the investigation. you see the mangled hunigled hu

debris here. investigators are trying to figure out why the plane passed security checks moments before and crashed after takeoff. we are covering this this morning from around the world. we are beginning with senior international correspondent arwa daimon. what are official making of these claims by isis affiliated militants that they shot down that plane? >> reporter: well, those claims are being refuted and effectily dismissed by both russian and egyptian officials. one source that cnn spoke to said the islamic militants, especially those affiliated with isis in the sinai tonight have the surface-to-air missiles with the range that would be capable of bringing down a plane at cruising altitude. and they are, at this stage, saying that they had no

indication ahead of time according to the transport minister that anything was going wrong with that flight. >> if the pilot doesn't report any faults on the plane, all that will be carried out is routine maintenance checks on the plane before takeoff. the checks done before takeoff did not reveal anything. up until the crash hatchppened were never informed of any defaults on the plane nor did we receive any sos calls. >> reporter: that is why it is so critical at this stage that authorities be able to retrieve vital information from the two black boxes that they have managed to obtain from the site. exactly when that is going to happen, unclear at this stage. meanwhile, at least 163 bodies have been recovered, taken to around six morgues into cairo where the very difficult process of identifying them and eventually sending them back to

their loved ones will begin. but, again, lia lot of unanswer questions at this stage on what brought that flight down. >> we have covered too many of these incidents like this over the last two and a half years the investigators seem to be going through this phase of the investigation very quickly. recovering the black boxes within hours of this crash. >> reporter: it has been, especially if you compare it to past crashes the most recent ones but that is also due to factors on the ground here. they were able to locate the crash site fairly quickly. the plane went down at around 6:20 a.m. local and within four to five hours, the remains of the plane had been identified and rescue teams were able to get on-site fairly quickly. and that, of course, is playing a significant role in the fact that they are able to not only retrieve the bodies of those who perished but also they have been able to seal off this area where

the plane went down. remember, it went down in the middle of the sinai. this is actually a no-go zone. it is a military zone because of ongoing clashes between various islamic groups and some of them have pleaded with isis and others not but crash taken place there the last couple of months, it is a blocked off military zone and the prosecutor's office has declared it a crime scene. what helped in the initial phases was the plane was quickly identified and in an authority that the authorities and rescue and recovery team were able to get to fairly quickly. >> arwa damon, thank you so much. now to richard quest who is joining us from london. richard, flight radar 24 released flights 9268's altitude and speed changes. i want to take a look at some of this that we are getting in

here. if we can pull this up on the screen. you can see the speed climb, we understand, from 272 knots to about 405 knots. about 466 miles per hour. for some 20 minutes before it plummeted at 6:11 a.m. there was no data tracked after 6:13 a.m. a steady climb to 30,000 feet and then it descends. what does this kind of data tell you? >> reporter: what it tells us, the flight radar 24 data is reliable, but it's not absolute in the sense that it's not good enough for investigative purposes it receives from atsb responders. but the gist is there, even if not the specifics. what it certainly shows us is that something took place about 21 minutes into the flight that was fairly dramatic and that

caused oscillations in altitude. the plane starts to go to that. and a dramatic falloff in speed. according to the data that they have released, the speed at one point drops to 93 knots which is well, well below anything that the plane is able to fly at. now, the issue, of course, is what was it that took place that first of all, caused the oscillation and the variations in attitude and then led to the falloff in speed. that will become the cause and effect. it will be looked at as to the event itself, dramatic catastrophic and certainly to the point of destruction, and then how the plane was being flown in that emergency. so we know, for instance, much has been made of the fact the passengers, those bodies that have been recovered still were in their seats with their seat belts on. some of have suggested that was because the pilot, you know, asked them to because of what was happening on the plane. we don't know that at all.

it was only 20 minutes in the flight. it's entirely possible the seat belt sign was still on. so there is a lot of information there. the black boxes, which i believe are now being read out in cairo, will give us the data. and as i always said, because they have got the debris field and they have the wreckage, this is going to be a textbook investigation. >> richard, i wonder. let's keep these pictures and the video up of the debris field and the investigators looking through the six-mile field here. what could be gleaned from the pictures that we are seeing now? >> reporter: so far, not a huge amount. other than the fact that it would appear in some of the pictures that the tail did separate. it looks as if it's fairly clean separation from the tail. now, there are some who are suggesting that a previous accident of this plane, 12, 14 years ago, a tail strike of this particular aircraft, might have had something to do with it.

nothing other than pure speculation. at the moment, there is one particular picture where you can probably see the pressure bulkhead. again, we don't know what the significance is. the debry field is packed leading it to suggest that ten miles sounds large but it's not huge, but it doesn't suggest there was a total breakup of the aircraft in mid flight. it came down fairly tactile but it may have been broken off on the way down. >> so the fact this it may have broke up on the way down, does that make this crediting from officials of any claims of terror more or less likely? >> reporter: well, one can't say and one wouldn't say. the claims of terror have to be discounted on the basis of military intelligence. whether or not those terrorists have the capability.

remember importantly -- we know this from mh-17. you can't bring down an aircraft with a shoulder-launched surface-to-air missile. it has to be from a ve sophisticated like the radar system. it has to have a sophisticated operator. you can't just aim and fire. it has to be much more than that. so unless those involved have obtained much more sophisticated military hardware than anybody believes they have got so far, in which case you're looking at at a very different game or a very different set of circumstances, you have to take the military intelligence which says this is not terrorism. now, three airlines, if i'm not mistaken have decided to give a pass over the sinai peninsula and over that particular area out of an abundance of saurcaut.

i suspect other airlines will follow whether it's confirmed one way or another but so far terrorism is certainly not seen as the cause. >> richard quest in london, thank you. we want to take you now to the st. petersburg air court reporter. people have submitted their dna to help identify these bodies. more on that later in the show and take you to st. petersburg airport to see what is happening there. overnight, it appears the wreckage of el faro has been found. this is the missing cargo ship that disappeared a month ago during hurricane joaquin. 33 people died when it sank. we have breaking developments for you coming up next. also u.s. special forces headed to syria to fight isis.

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radar imagines. about three miles below the surface. some 30 people were on board when el faro disappeared when sailing into hurricane walk convene on the joaquin when traveling to puerto rico. how certain does the navy feel this is the el faro? >> they are cautious but they found like they have found what they are looking for. the team will go into day with a deep ocean remotely operated vehicle to try confirm with 100% certainty that this wreckage is that of el faro. they spotted the images yesterday afternoon. a team is in that area using that technology to try to figure out if this is el faro. it was located where it was last seen off the east coast of the bahamas 3,000 feet down.

it marks one month since el faro was recorded missing from that trip from jacksonville to puerto rico. if this is exactly what they are looking for, what a relief it would be for the families that have been looking for closure. they have been wanting the remains of their families returned. 33 members on board there. 28 of them americans. five polish engineers and this could provide the closures the families have been looking for the past month. >> have we heard from any of the families since getting this news? >> over the past month they have been giving interviews at jacksonville asking for closure. only one body has been identified from the 33 on board that vessel so this could be closure for them and hopefully, investigators confirm with 100% certainty it's the vessel itself. >> thank you. >> sure. breaking news on the campus of north carolina winston-salem university. police tell cnn a shooting and one is confirmed dead and a

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we had almost 20 inches of rain in a majority of spots and a few actually did creep over that 20-inch mark. take a look at the numbers beneath mere. 21 in killean, texas. austin picking up 16 inches of rain and a lot of spots picking up a foot of rain. they have inundated by all of that rain. in addition to that we have a lot of storm reports. tornado reports in the last 24 hours. not all of them are confirmed. they will go out and do surveys for today. we know at least numerous reports, and there has been some damage with several of those tornado reports as well. once we take a look. the moisture is surging up toward parts of mississippi and alabama and georgia and rainfall estimates the next 24 hours, we are talking about another 4, 6 inches of rain in many spots, some could pick up as much as

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all 224 people were killed when the plane went down and all believed to be russian. some of their bodies could start to be head back to st. petersburg as soon as today and rlf relatives are there waiting. they have submitted dna to help identify their loved ones. ian lee is outside of one of the six morgues in cairo that are now processing everything here. ian, what is the investigation like where you are? >> reporter: well, good morning. the investigation is still ongoing. 163 bodies now we know have been brought here to cairo. the majority of them are at the main morgue here in cairo. they are going over to really identify who is who. they are doing dna testing, other forms of identification, really to make sure that these bodies can get back to their

loved ones in russia. there are still 63 bodies out in the desert that have yet to come in. we are expecting those bodies to come in as well. they are looking for any hints that includes these bodies can really tell about what the cause of this crash is. we know both black boxes are here in cairo now. experts are going over the details trying to pick apart all of the audio, all of the data that they can. there is an expert team from russia that is here, as well as an airbus team. so they are focusing on that right now. the cause of the crash is still unknown and that is the main focus of this investigation. >> ian lee for us there outside one of the six morgues in cairo, thank you so much. we are following this story to st. petersburg airport. take a look here. there is a memorial that has formed for the victims of the plane crash. the remains of the tourists as we were just talking about,

could begin arriving home as soon as today. so many of those families have really worked hard themselves. you can understand the difficult process it is to submit their own dna, to help i.d. these body. but it does seem to be a very fluid and very quick process at this point when you think about the fact this just went down yesterday. nick rober nic robertson is live at the airport. tell us about who you've talked to and any stories that stand out to you. >> reporter: well, the memorial here continues to grow every few minutes. there's a flood of people arriving here. sometimes one person and a gentleman arriving here now. i see some children and more people coming in. this is the way that it's been. just look at all of these people arriving. it's a day of national mourning. this tiny pile of flowers have

grown. there are toys and some photographs of the victims. while we have been standing here today, we saw one mother arrived and she told us she just come off the plane from siberia. her daughter had been on the plane flying from egypt. her daughter, she was in tears about her daughter almost collapsing. a young man with possibly her son help take herway in taxis why government officials are giving the families there psychological counseling and they have helping with the recovery effort and the dna testing that is going on, dna testing done with over a hundred of those family members so far to help with the -- to help with the identification process. we talked to another man who turned up here a little while ago. he was leaving flowers and he was in tears. he told us his good friend had been saving up for years and had waited to get a passport the last five years to make a trip to egypt. he had taken his new wife, he

had taken his young 6-month-old child and this was their first trip overseas. the family was lost. he was devastated. we are seeing outpouring of soror and a recognition from so many peer it could have been them coming back from the plane in egypt. it is a sad day here, for sure. >> nic robertson, thank you for bringing us that perspective and what this is all about. i want tobring inles vant. we listen to his account this. this gets to anybody, not only who has lost somebody, but who takes a moment to absorb the thought that could have been anybody. we all step on planes every day. which brings us to what caused this. based on what you know, what would be next in this

investigation at the point where we stand now? >> good morning, christi. this is a horrible scene, of course. before i get to that, i'm very gratified it seems that this investigation is going according to iko international civil aviation organization protocol, which included what, as nic reported, a psychologist and is important in this whole process. we discussed before that crew altitude is a low stress time what we call phase of flight for something not to be handled in an emergency. so some of the things that i've looked at, after looking at the flight radar 24 data, if, indeed, that is accurate data, indicates this airplane just literally fell out of sky. it slowed down to speed that the airplane isn't possible to maintain lift. it's call an aerodynamic style. the wings no longer supported the airplane.

from that angle, you know, there are things that could cause this. this airplane may have exceeded its performance limitations. there are leaa lot of people on this airplane and probably figured for coach. in the states less than 200 people on an airbus a-21 and not any problem it was load you but it was a heavy airplane and possibly had a lot of fuel so it's possible to exceed the limitations of the airplane, in other words, not enough lift at certain altitudes and certain temperatures to get the plane higher. they may have climbed to get out of choppy air. this is pure speculation. we have no reports of that. if they exceeded the limitations, in addition to the stall character, which is a low speed situation, there is a high speed access that will exceed a point where the two speeds get very close to each other. whether this happened or not, it's really hard to say.

we have learned that on other accidents, more generally aviation that high poxy can play a role, where the loss of oxygen has a slow leak and our brain does not function without oxygen very well as it loses pressure. if there was an abnormality they were attempting to rectify through a checklist, their decision process may have been off and flying the airplane may not have become a priority because they weren't thinking clearly so these are all speculative possibilities. >> mechanics is not ruled out as well. les avant, thank you for being here. donald trump losing ground in some polls in the race for the gop nomination for president. but his hope to revamp the veterans affairs administration, but how is the plan going to be paid for? plus, u.s. special forces headed to syria. could these dozens of special

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details yet his plan for reforming the veterans affairs department but, first, we caught up with him as he was entering the event asking for his reaction to the decision that president obama made to send troops into syria and we talked to him about super pacs. i want to ask you about your reaction to president obama's decision wrars to syria putting special forces there. what do you think about it? >> i think we have a president who doesn't know what he is doing. he puts 50 people. >> reporter: you would put more? >> you either do it or you don't do it. >> reporter: what about campaign finance? you've talked about that a lot recently. >> super pacs should noting allowed. it's a disgrace what is happening with super pacs and it's a disgrace. they are horrible for our country and should be ended. >> reporter: who you do anything about it if you were president changing the laws? >> and special pacs. >> reporter: donald trump that talked about the situation in syria before saying russia will shoo be allowed to intervene the

two-fight isis but in iraq he would be in favoring putting troops there to combat the islamic groups. donald trump laid out his plans to reform the veterans affairs department and make health care for veterans more cost effect e effective. jeremy diamond, cnn, norfolk, virginia. >> jeremy, thanks. let's talk about the policy and politics with stephen collinson. it's a real fight that trump is fighting to maintain the top spot there in the rankings. >> you've seen donald trump's status drop there in iowa. i think on the politics of this, there are about 200,000 veterans living in iowa. you look at the nature of the caucuses, only around 140,000

people showed up to vote in the last republican caucus. if you could mobilize a sector of that population, it could potentially have a political impact. in the broader sense, veterans day is coming up in a week and a half or so. that gives mr. trump something to talk about the issue to the run-up not just veterans day but the next republican debate on november 10th. also hillary clinton has found herself in a little bit of trouble on veterans issues recently. she said that the problem with the v.a. wasn't widespread and that campaign had to row back a little bit. that gives mr. trump i think an avenue into launching an attack on hillary clinton as well with this plan. >> let's talk about this plan and put up on the screen an excerpt from it. all veterans eligible for v.a. health care can bring their veterans i.d. cards to any doctor or care facility that accepts medicare to get the care they need immediately. how does mr. trump propose to

pay for this? >> that is the question. just that medicare issue there would seem to add a lot of administration and work for medicare. it's not clear how that would be paid for. you know, i wouldn't say that this plan is lacking specifics. it's very specific on what it wants to achieve. now the proof of a program always comes in the budgeting process and that is when if mr. trump were president, we would see how effective this might be. i don't think this plan is any less specific than a number of other plans on other issues that other candidates have unveiled. in fact, it's not any less specific than a lot of aspirational plans i've seen unveil by white houses. mr. trump is not saying how he would pay for this is a fair criticism but not hold him to a standard other politicians haven't met themselves. >> fair enough. what is important here, as we said, this is the fourth policy

paper from trump. staying with that narrative, i mean, initially we saw the policy on immigration reform and that carried the day for several weeks. but since then, some of these proposals have gotten lost in the back and forth, some of the criticisms on twitter and face-to-face that donald trump has launched. >> that's true. i think if you saw the last republican debate, the heavily criticiz criticized debate on cnbc. i think hi plait's interesting how he goes forward. if he adopts a bit more self-restraint on twitter. at the end of the day his outspoken outbursts and comments are the things made him popular i think you can say a popular fairly 22 to 25% of the supposed republican electorate. it's a balancing act, i think, for his campaign.

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the state department says the u.s. will provide millions of dollars to help the syrian opposition. this is getting a lot of attention from the campaign trail. hillary clinton, quote, sees merit, she says, in the targeted use of special operations

personnel to support our partners in the fight against isis, including in syria, unquote. other candidates on both sides not quite so enthusiastic. >> i don't think it makes sense to send a handful of ground troops into harm's way when there is no plan for them to win. there's no air support. when their rules are engagement are so contrained that they are able to be effective. >> the united states should be supportive and we should be working with allies in europe and elsewhere, but at the end of the day, it is going to have to be the countries in that region who are going to have as to stand up and take on isis. >> cnn military analyst lieutenant general mark hertling is joining us now. general, when you hear these candidates and the points they are making, what stands out to you? >> well, is there a couple of key issues, christi, that all of the candidates need to take a little bit closer look at.

first of all, americans do want action again isis. that is true. at the same time, the american people, the congress of the united states and the current president all say they don't want any major new deployments into the middle east. what do you do when that happens? you find ways around those contrants by generating some support for the indigenous people on the ground. the president is giving 100 million to the syrian fighters and given a lot more to the iraqi fighters and now we are supporting the kurds even closer. we get more intelligence from those indigenous forces on the ground so we can have stand-off bombing campaigns that are more effective. you do try to get the allies involved which is what is happening the past year. not only the european allies but the middle eastern allies. the last week, both lebanon and jordan are pulled closer into the fight. i think what the candidates are saying is exactly what has been

happening right now and has been happening for a year they are putting it out there for the american people who they want to vote for. >> you're hearing the concerns on the candidate. when you look at this plan, do you have any major discerns? >> i don't. i actually think it's a very smart plan. we have said from the very beginning, the president has said the various military leaders have said when they get more contacts in the middle east, when they have more people to engage with on the ground, intelligence sources and people who though know will properly fight against isis, they will support them more. we have said that for over a year. so now you're starting to see the insurgence of special operating forces which are very good at what they do and they can bring a significant advantage to the battlefield, not only by advising and assisting but coordinating these forces between the kurd and democratic front they are now calling themselves and the iraqi forces and you're allowing for the potential for more and more effective bombing of isis territory and isis headquarters.

>> all right, general mark hertling, thank you. >> thank you, christi. >> for your expertise, we appreciate it. a couple of minutes before the top of the hour. we will get the newest details on the final second before a russian passenger jet crashed and killing all 224 people on board. egypt maintains no foul play is suspected. there is this investigation that is ongoing into what caused the crash. we have got a live report to you in a moment.

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clock. coy will take it away here and tell us what is going on. >> this play is one for the college history books. not one, not two, not even four laterals coming up here. this had eight laerterals in on play. duke blue devils all they needed to do is get one tackle to get the guy on the ground and the game sover. the hurricanes had other plans. eight laterals. check it out. outstanding, commanding, demanding. >> this is where i lost it! i didn't see this one! >> yes. look at the sideline erupting. this was an incredible play. who says special teams doesn't matter? you hear that all the time. here is this kickoff return. last week, we had the virginia tech blocked an undefeated florida state field goal attempt and took it back and beat florida state. two weeks ago, michigan stayed on a blocked punt! so here you had another special teams thriller. we want to know, this brought to

mind what are the most exciting finishes in sports history? we want to get you involved this morning and let us know using the #newdaycnn or hit us up on our facebook page. >> this is a good one. >> this is already called the miami miracle, right? >> i like it. >> coy, thank you. thank you very much for starting your morning with us. >> a lot more ahead on the next hour of "new day." stay with us. ♪ armed forces and relief teams now going through the wreckage of a russian passenger jet that crashed into egypt. investigators now have the flight recorders. will they reveal the cause of this crash? el faro possibly found. the navy believes it has located a cargo ship carrying american workers deep under water.

how can this 800-foot long ship be brought back to the surface? also -- >> that's when they shot him a good 20 times. >> if i didn't hit the ground, i would be dead. >> a hail of gunfire. police in the shoot-out with an armed suspect. in the end, three people are dead and police are trying to figure out why. so grateful for your company. thanks for being with us this morning. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. in egypt the investigation into the crash of metro jet flight 9268 has resumed along the sinai peninsula. >> russian and egyptian teams are working in tandem trying to recover the bodies of the victims and combing through that crash site. 224 people were on board when the plane went down and there are no survivors. >> you see the luggage and hunks of metal and seats and debris

spread out over six miles. >> every inch is going to be scoured by investgative teams trying to figure out how a plane could cash security checks as this did moments before it crashed after takeoff. we are covering the story from around the world. we begin with senior international correspondent arwa damon. we want to know what officials there are shag aaying and makin these claims by isis militants that isis shot down this plane? >> reporter: both russian and egyptian authorities at this stage are dismissing that isis claim. one egyptian military source cnn spoke to said the islamic militants, whether they were affiliated with isis or not that operate in the sinai, do not have the capabilities to bring down an aircraft traveling at 31,000 feet. according to this source, the maximum distance that the missiles, the surface-to-air

missiles that are within these militants hands would go to around 14,000 feet so far from being able to reach that particular aircraft. and egyptian authorities are also going so far to say that they had absolutely no indication that anything was wrong with this aircraft. >> so do investigators, as we look at this, they are going through it so quickly, it seems. this just happened yesterday. we don't see this kind -- this expedient as we normally do. is that because they were able to get so the site so quickly? >> reporter: well, within four to five hours after the aircraft disappeared from radar, they were able to identify the crash site. they were able to get there fairly quickly and begin that job of trying to recover the various body, up wards of 160 record so far.

being taken to around six morgues in cairo. from there, of course, the very grim and difficult task of identifying them and getting those remains back home. the two black boxes recovered from the site fairly quickly as well. depending on the damage done to the two black boxes, we will have to wait and see. it can take days, weeks, months to actually recover vital information that they do contain. they hopefully, will give that final piece to the puzzle that will be put into place to give those families and everyone who is asking the big question what is it that took place? egyptian authorities are saying there was no distress signal given out from the plane that it just van issued from the radar. some analysts have been quick to criticize egyptian authorities to a certain degree saying they were surprised that they dismissed foul play so early on in this investigation. >> we want to go to international diplomatic editor

nic robertson who is live in st. petersburg. arwa is talking about how the bodies are going to be processed. we are hearing some could return as soon as today to russia. what are you hearing there from the people? because i know there is a memorial set up behind you that continues to grow for these passengers and for the children in particular as well who were on that flight. >> reporter: yeah, it's a national day of mourning here. the first bodies are expected back today, but it is a huge day of sadness here. we are standing at the airport. we have been watching these floral tributes grow through the day. every minute, fresh flowers arrive and more people come and children leaving toys and people light candles and people coming to leave flowers. a real sense of solidarity and

support of people recognizing it could have been them on the plane. the families gathered here a few hours ago, have been taken to a nearby hotel. government officials are briefing them and they are giving them medical help as well. there are psychologists on hand to help the families. 65 psychologists, we are told, who are trying to help the grieving families. ambulances were called in the night as well to help the families. but while we have been standing here, you see so many people that are offering their support. they don't know people often who were on the plane, but we have spoken to a mother here who arrived. she was in tears. she arrived, laid some flowers here. she almost collapsed. she told us she got off a plane from siberia that her daughter was on the flight that crashed and another man, his good friend had been on the plane. he said his friend had been saving five years to take his wife and 6-month-old child.

the friend was devastated at the shock of the loss. i look at people standing around here. tears in their eyes. a real sense of sadness around us right now. >> you can't help but absorb it, i'm sure. nic robertson, arwa damon, appreciate it so much. thank you. let's bring in cnn aviation analyst les avant. i want to bring up the information released by the flight and the altitude and speed changes and put up the first chart here. this is speed. climbed from 272 knots to roughly 466 in miles per hour. for 20 minutes. at 6:11, it just drops there. then no data tracked after 6:13. now for altitude. steady climb over 30,000 feet and starts to descend and nothing from radar after we can

anything ruled in or out from these pictures? >> once again, victor, this is

preliminary information but you're looking at fair chunk of this aircraft to put it in those terms. just by virtue there was a lot of recovery of the bodies in one area it seems indicates something about the way the airplane broke apart and perhaps could have impacted intact, perhaps at the rate that it was falling from the sky, it's possible that there are pieces of it that came off and other parts so the remaining passengers may be found elsewhere. but it does say something to the effect of this planned view, it would be better if there was a planned view of the entire exit site, but at this point, it's hard to say. it may have broken up in flight. it's hard to say. >> les avant, thank you so much, as we wait for the full analysis from these two flight data recorders, we will continue to get as much information regarding the pictures and the investigation there on the ground as we can. les, thanks so much.

>> my pleasure. a discovery 15,000 feet under water. now a tiny submarine is tasked with trying to discern for sure, is this the missing el faro cargo ship. my goodness. such strong storms and record rainfall and water rescues. all of this across texas as they are dealing with the damage left behind after days of rain and more on the way too. up next, witnesses diving for cover when police opened fire on an armed suspect. dozens of shots were fired here. what led to this deadly shoot-out?

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identified by school officials as jared jerome moore and not believed to be a student. campus authorities say the gunfire erupted before 1:30. the officials there say the campus has been cleared, the earlier lockdown has been lifted. winston-salem city police are helping the campus police with this investigation. police in colorado springs haven't determined yet the motive of its shoot-out near downtown that left four people dead, including the gunman who police tell the authorities was heavily armed. witnesses say the gunman set a house on fire. sara has more on this. >> reporter: we are waiting for details from police before we understand what happened here. it seems the gunman just started firing at people early on a saturday morning. very scary according to witnesses who described what

happened. >> reporter: it began with shots fired just east of downtown colorado springs. that is where police find a bicyclist dead on side of the street. the gunman takes off a half mile across town and then shoots and kills two women. >> me and my son were at 7-eleven using the atm and so we walked outside and as soon as i walked outside, i heard six gunshots. the gunshots were up the street. we get across the street and he cop cars swarm in and i saw the guy walking with a gun in his hand. >> reporter: when police catch up with the suspect the witnesses say the gunman opened fire on the officers. one man says the bullets blew right over his head. >> if i didn't hit the ground, i would be dead right now. they yelled put the gun down and he turned around and that is when they shot him a good 20 times. or shot at him at least a good 20 times. there was a lot of fire.

>> reporter: now according to our affiliate kk-tv there is a possibility that other people may have also been shot and injured near where that bicyclist was shot and killed. police are also looking into witness accounts that the shooter may have set a small fire at an apartment complex also near that initial first location and, today, a lot of the areas of downtown colorado springs are blocked off as police are investigating. treating it as a crime scene and trying to figure out what happened. we are hoping for more details later in the day. >> sara ganum, thank you. a car jumped a curb yesterday and then plowed into a croup of trick-or-treaters and their families. three people were killed. this happened in the bronx saturday afternoon. >> all you heard was the vroom literally moo the gate and the car landing on top of this young kid's body. >> when i got there i didn't know if it was a halloween dummy

or a person. >> wow. witnesses say that this scene was so gruesome that grown men were standing there and crying. driver 52 years old was hospitalized and is in stable condition. at least 15 people are dead after an attack at a hotel in somalia. they say gunman stormed a hotel and setting off a series of explosions. islamic militant group al shabab is taking responsibility for that. you can see this is bang in the air. national guard personnel used a helicopter to fetch the blimp out of the woods in pennsylvania yesterday. the blimp broke free from a military base in maryland and drifted 150 miles before landing. the respects parts at an armed

forces center near danville. texas and the gulf coast has been hammered with record amounts of rain for days. several people we know died in these storms. the question here -- when is all of this going to end? plus a remote navy sub going deep under water and on board to search the wreckage of a missing cargo ship. could this sub help determine what took down el faro?

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at least six people are dead after a powerful weekend storm raced across texas. at least 20 inches of rain

drench drenched areas near austin and tornadoes posed a threat. some flood watch warnings and watches in place. it's not over. more rainfall likely to come to that area and along the gulf coast. cnn meteorologist allison chinchar at the weather center is tracking all of this. what is ahead? >> more rain. the good news is not in the same spots. now the system is beginning to push a little bit toward the east but it's the areas that have seen the rain. a delayed effect for recovery. in fact, take a look beneath mere. look at all of the rain we have had in texas, incredible amounts. this is the past 48 hours. now the heaviest rain in that stretch between austin and san antonio where they picked up over 16 inches of rain in some spots and 20 inches. take a look at the totals. killeen, texas, 21 inches.

san marcos, 16 inches of rain. in these particular areas we are seeing the rain move out. now we take a look at the next 48 hours. can you see all of that rain just begins to push to the east. alabama and georgia and mississippi and you're next. the areas expected to pick up now 4 to 10 inches of rain. it hasn't been the rain but it's also been the severe weather. take a look at this. we had seven tornado reports yesterday. seven! not all of them confirmed yet. they will send survey crews out later today to determine more of the specifics and what strength the tornadoes might be. but we do know of damage, especially in louisiana from where some of those storm reports actually happened. here is a look. as the rain continues to push off to the east, it will shift north and tennessee and kentucky and west virginia also going to pick up some rain out of this as well but the heaviest will actually be on the southern tier. right along the florida panhandle and also into southern mississippi and alabama where we will see some of the heaviest

rain. because of that that is also where we have the flood watch. you can see stretching from louisiana all the way over towards alabama. this is where we expect those heaviest pockets of rain to be. we already gave you some of those totals. here you can see the moisture. again, just being able to surge and pulling in the moisture from the gulf. here is the system. it begins to push off to the north and also into the east. and rainfall totals with this, as we mentioned, 4 to 6 inches. but we could see as much as 10 inches. similar to what we saw in texas just now beginning to shift a little bit farther to the east. >> they should all prepare. allison chinchar, thank you so much. for a month search teams have combed the caribbean for any sign of a cargo ship that carried dozens of american workers. now the u.s. navy thinks it has found the el faro. how can the ship be recovered when it's 15,000 feet below the surface of the water. hundreds of bodies now

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new this morning on cnn. a cargo ship that went down in a hurricane exactly one month ago, appears to have been found. the u.s. navy says it's about three miles below the surface. now, a drone will likely go down maybe sometime today to confirm the ship is the el faro which sank during hurricane joaquin. our nick valencia is covering this story for us. how certain is the navy that

this is el faro? >> as certain as they can be right now. they sent a team of investigators and also from the united states navy investigators and sent a deep water device into the water three miles into that water to confirm with 100% certainty that this is the wreckage from el faro. they have been using equipment in the area for a week the last time they spotted it off the east of the bahamas. they believe this is the wreckage but go in underwater today to figure out if this is it. one month since the ship went missing on sha that voyage from jacksonville to puerto rico. 33 members on board and 28 of them are americans. the families of these crewmembers on board have been looking for closure this last month. >> have we heard from them all since this news broke? >> the last week, actually. one of the family members of these victims has filed a lawsuit against the owner of the vessel. they are seeking damages. because, according to local reports, because of an existing maritime law, they can only see

up to $30,000 in damages which doesn't seem like that much money considering exactly what they have gone through over the course of the last four weeks. >> we know that this drone will go down and that is likely to happen sometime today? >> as early as today it's expected to happen. they spotted the images yesterday afternoon 1:30 off the eastern coast of the bahamas. we will see what they are able to find today to see if this is in fact, 100% certainty that this is the wreckage of el faro. >> are they planning to retrieve the remains of this ship? >> according to the images that they saw, it's in one piece. standing upright. it is intact. they could very well retrieve this but we don't know what they are going to do when they send this device other than to confirm that the images they saw from the sonar technology. >> mary is a former general with

the u.s. transportation department. once the identity of this wreck is confirmed and it is, indeed, believed to be el faro, this thing is three miles down. i guess we are wondering what is next? first, really what is next for the bodies that might be able to be recovered. will they try to recover bodies before recovering the ship itself? >> that is going to be very difficult because of the depth of the water that the navy has equipment that is capable of literally going down and getting the sunken ship or parts of it, because they have equipment that is used for recover submarines. but in terms of sending anything or anybody, you can't really send divers down but sending down to search for bodies that would be extremely difficult. my guess is they will use the equipment to search for the black boxes. there is one. called a trip record.

they will search for that and try to bring up a part, if they can. if not, they will have to rely on sensing devices so send pictures. >> i want to talk about that data recorder. what does it record and for how long? would it be the last 15 minutes of what happened or the last three hours of what happened? >> it should be. now depending upon the model and how new it is. it should be the last hours. it will record things like the engine prop settings, the headings. it will be basically be a data recording of the what the captain was doing and where the engines were set, you know, the knots that it was doing, all of the things that the engine setting. if there is a gauge in the captain's bridge, then they can run a lead to that black box recorder so that is the kind of things that would object it. >> when you were just talking -- i want to talk about one other thing you said as you're talking about the recovery of this -- of

the bodies and of this ship. because it is 15,000 feet below the surface, it is possible to bring that up? >> it's going to be very, very difficult. obviously, if they need to to find out really to solve the mystery of what happened, they could possibly try to use this equipment that the navy has that can bring up submarines, but this is a huge ship, the el faro. it's probably not in one piece any way. so they might try, if they have to to bring up parts of it, but what they really want to get first, i think, would be the black box and if they do happen to -- my personal belief is they probably will find it very difficult to find bodies on board. >> one last quick question. sonar images appear to show whatever this is to be an upright position and in one piece based on what you just said. what does that alone tell you about what may have happened?

>> actually, that tells me an awful lot. this wasn't a container ship. this was called a rocon. it had ports down below like a ferry ship where cars and vehicles could actually roll on or drive onto the ship. these areas are weak. it's a place you can take on water. m like a ferry boat, if you will, if you think of it in that way but it's not a ferry boat. my guess if it's in one piece that it took on water most because this is a weakness on t- the ship and it sank very, very quickly. >> mary schiavo, thank you. new video from outside one of the six morgues that received bodies from the crash of metro jet flight 9268. earlier this morning, russian officials around there. we know more than 160 bodies have been taken from the crash

site to cairo's morgues and some of the victims, their remains could be headed back to russia as soon as today. our ian lee is in cairo outside one of those morgues. he is learning much more. what do you have for us, ian? >> reporter: good morning. yes, we saw those russian officials just a while ago. they were going into the morgue. they were talking to egyptian officials and then they left. we know that there are 163 bodies now in cairo at six different morgues and we are outside one of the main morgues that has the majority of the bodies. really, right now, what officials are doing is they are trying to identify everyone that they can to reunite them with their loved ones. this isn't an easy process. they are going through dna testing because, as you can imagine, when a plan falls -- descends from the earth, over 30,000 feet, it is going to have a large impact and a lot of those bodies will not be able to

recognize. so they are going over all those bodies to make sure that they can reunite them. the other big thing today is going over those black boxes. they are now in cairo. we have russian, as well as airbus and egyptian official going through them and trying to determine what exactly happened. but even at this hour, there are still bodies out there. there are over 60 bodies at the crash site. it's an area that is ruffle six square miles and it has been expanded. it is a combination of planes and some places, mountainous terrain. it has been somewhat slow going. but egyptian officials that i've talked to are optimistic that this investigation is moving forward at a good pace and they hope to have more information for us and, just now, in probably the next half hour, we are expecting a press conference from the russian transport minister in cairo to have more information about this ongoing investigation. >> ian, thanks.

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all right new for you this morning. a change is already in the works for the necks republican presidential debate. fox business network will give candidates more time to respond to questions when they debate on november 10th. that decision maybe will help satisfy the campaigns who are really just seeinging over last week's debate on cnbc. the candidates are meeting in washington almost all of them to try to get more control of the debate process. back with us is stephen collinson. let's listen to ted cruz while on a pheasant hunt in iowa yesterday. >> i have suggested a simple rule. how about the moderators of republican primaries actually be republicans? if you have individuals who have never in their life voted in a republican primary, maybe she

shouldn't be moderating republican primaries. >> if a republican conservative commentator were to moderate one of these debates it may be t popular. the problem we have here is one of the rnc is trying to ignore is what the free debates should be like and we saw that in 2012 and members of the party decided that was detrimental to their candidates' chances in a general election. there is a struggle between the candidates and the republican national committee. i think the candidates seeing the massive coverage these debates have whipped up decided they want more leverage and more say how the debates take place so a difficult question.

>> "wall street journal" was reporting that dr. ben carson wants the debates to be taken off television entirely and that he wants them to be broadcast online or aired online. is that realistic or is that a nonstarter? >> there is an element to these debates i think is helping the republican party. it's not just hard-core grass roots conservatives watching them but they are appealing to a much broader section of the population, so you've seen for example the last debate how marco rubio emerged as a key candidate in this race. he would be a potentially good general election candidate for republican party and he is getting a chance to introduce himself to a much wider electorate in these debates. taking them off the television completely would probably hurt the gop as much as it would help it as much as ben carson who happens not a professional politician, is not so interested

in deep scrutiny of his political plans, would like to see them. it might help ben carson but it probably wouldn't help the republican party as a whole. >> a lot of different priorities here. if this group can coalesce around a list of demands, i mean, is that what we are expecting out of this meeting? and is there a chance that some of these candidates will boycott one or more of the future debates? >> i think it would be a big stept f step for a candidate to boycott the debate because it would hurt himself or hearrself. if you're bobby jindal or lindsey graham kvenconfinede to second tier you want to get on the big stage. >> stephen collinson, thank you so much. isis killed in a town.

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preparing for battle. last year, isis killed and enslaved thousands of people in a town of sinjar. i don't know if you remember these images. show them to you again. there there are on the iraq/syrian border. women are going to be coming. women crying and children were being carried. now forces are readying for what has been described as an emmeant offensi emmint offensive to retake that city. they dropped seven strikes on the terror group and destroying multiple fighting positions, vehicles, wounding a fighter. cnn's senior international correspondent is live on mt. sinjar with the latest. what have you seen from your vantage point this morning when we talk about these air strikes? >> reporter: we certainly have been hearing them, christi.

a succession of them in sinjar is below me and isis hold on the city. there is a sense we are counting down. we are still seeing vehicles leaving sinjar city. connects the isis territorial hold in iraq and syria. this is the border plan that's being put into motion here, which is to fragment that isis territorial imprint, start breaking up those different aspects of the so-called caliphate and resupply within themselves. you're talking about the and we're standing on their

homeland. what this mission means is really about their fundamental survival. they were almost driven to extinction. we're seeing the yazidis by the thousand thousands willing to fight. we're hearing a lot of differing intelligence about this with isis. what we've seen in the past, it's not even really about the fight that they put up in terms of the actual battle in and of the moment. it's about what they leave behind. these forces are thinking two or three steps ahead. because they're going to be concerned about ieds, booby traps if isis decides to withdrawal and pull back slightly further back from

sinjar, a much bigger command base for them, much more important in that sense command headquarters. they'll leave a lot behind, christy. >> we so appreciate the update. thank you. >> a week of major transition and change for john boehner and paul ryan. outgoing speaker of the house, the man chosen to take his place. both sit down with dana bash on state of the union. we'll have a preview in our next hour. one final play, unbelievable ending for the hurricanes. duke didn't believe it either. could it this be the best ever? coy wire has your picks coming up. what if one piece of kale

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becoming the only horse to win the triple crown and the breeder's cup in the same year. he had become the first triple crown winner in 37 years. the breeder's cup carries a $12 million purse. with that, retired. >> that's it. i'm good. i've said all i have to say. let's talk about this. the miami miracle, as it's called -- >> the craziest thing i've ever seen. i need somebody to be showing some arrows as to where it was going because it's so convoluted. i'm impressed, coy, the players knew how to pull it off. >> that's not even something you can draw up in the dirt. >> right. >> you can see the duke players, the ball keeps getting further and further back. let's look at this play. absolutely incredible. you certainly can say that is one of the most exciting plays in history. the thing we didn't mention last

hour is this was not without controversy. apparently the runner's knee was down at one point, officials missed, a couple of blocks in the back. here is the knee going down before the ball was out. there was a lot of controversy about this, though. this was still pretty incredible. was this one of the most exciting plays in college history or what are some of the most exciting sports finishes in history? i have a bone to pick here, too. feel like you were ganging up on me. the 1982 stanford cal through the band. there was a band on the field. buffalo bills come back over houston in the '93 wild card game. sorry, coy, those are all three teams i played for. what's up with that, guys? this is not a sunday funny. christian laytner's buzzer

beater and brandy chastain. >> he can take it. don't worry about it. it's all good. coy, thank you. >> you're welcome. thank you so much for being with us. >> your "new day" continues right now. >> it is 8:00. change your clocks. >> it is 8:00. >> that was very important to us. we got an extra hour of sleep. >> we enjoyed it. >> it's 8:00 and we are so grateful to have you. >> i'm christy paul. >> and i'm victor blackwell. serious trend, the crash of the metro jet 9268. investigation now into the downed passenger jet moving along quite rapidly. the russian emergency minister is saying that 120 bodies have been fully processed, could be headed home as soon as today. >> meanwhile,