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we have jam packed show. first the merging of politics and pop culture is complete. ♪ donald trump on the snl stage. did he get the last laugh? this is the first time nbc has handed a candidate the keys to studio age 8. he hosted whole somehow. expectations were huge. the show was just okay. it's getting panned by some critics. watch this. this was the first sketch he was in last night. >> they've done so much to ridicule me over the years. this show has been a disaster for me. look at this guy. >> great, great, it's going to

be fantastic. you're doing great job. i think this show got better by about 2 billion percent. >> you think you're this terrific person. you think you're this. you think you're that. >> trump's a racist. >> it's larry david. what are you doing? >> i heard if i yelled that they would give me $5,000. >> now as always, trump's appearance was surrounded by controversy. that's what larry david was references there. there were protesters led by immigrant groups. let's have some serious analysis of last night's silly show. bill carter knows snl better than anyone. his most recent book.

how well did trump do? >> it was the biggest ratings since 2012. it was 50% higher than on the premier of the show this season with hillary clinton. >> it really stood out last night. >> what do you make of those numbers? trump expected to get high ratings. will they be happy with this? >> i think they'll be happy. i've been using hugish. not super huge. it's as big as you can do. saturday night isn't watched on tv any way. >> a lot of people watch on demand instead of live. these ratings are above average. >> i'm sure the advertisers are thrilled. what do you make of that. >> it didn't hit the expectation. people wanted fireworks on the

show. they steered clear of that. >> there was this group that did call for $5,000 to anybody who interrupted the show. >> the biggest joke is larry david would get $5,000. >> the group does say they will pay larry david? >> well, he needs the money. where do you think was the best part? >> the hotline bling where this drake parody. he comes out wearing the glasses. i loved it, but it made we realize i dance exactly like him. >> it was the most humanizing moments. >> how we doing in syria? >> the country is at peace. the refugees have returned and

they have great jobs as blackjack dealers in the trump hotel in damascus. >> mr. president, the president of mexico is here to see you. >> i brought you the check for the wall. >> i'm so proud of you and changing telemundo to all english for me. it's the greatest thing. how is the economy? >> amazing, sir. in the words of our new national anthem, it's huge. >> i have no idea how you did it, sir. >> i don't have to get specific. with me it's just works, it's magic. >> i ask you if this presidency thing doesn't work out, does he is a future? >> he can pull off certain things. what struck me about that sketch is they didn't have any latino actors. the mexican president had to be played by an anglo.

that's one of the things that people said about the show. they didn't have someone to put on that was really hispanic. >> is this a jump the shark moments of not just having a candidate having part but hosting? >> i don't think so. >> i think some viewers at home recent that politics has become so soft and silly. >> he did sketches on tonight show. it's not really anything out of the ordinary. i don't think it affects the race. i really don't. >> i don't think it changes anything he hasn't been this campaign. >> the only shot they took was having drunk uncle be his audience. they said are these the people who like him. that was a subtle point they made. >> we'll get into that in a couple of minutes.

trump is tweeting during the show. he said the ratings were great and said very few protesters. thank you so much for being here. >> thank you. >> we'll hear from a protesters in a few minutes. let's go out to jay mohr. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. what a pleasure. this is my treadmill show. >> a treadmill show. i love that. i wanted to hear from a former snl comedian this morning. we need your review of how the donald did. did you think he was flat? >> no. i thought he was game. he played along. i got to give him credit. in one show he was in more sketches than i was this two years. kudos. >> it's funny.

he only appeared like 12 minutes. there's suspicion this is due to nbc's equal time concerns. >> having been on saturday night live that is absurd and that is patently false. there's no way on god's green earth loren michael's had a stopwatch. i promise you that's not true whoever said that. as far as the protesters and donald trump, if he's so against foreigners, why did he marry two of them? >> i have heard people ask that question. i don't think he would say they are foreigners. >> i thought that was my closer. i thought i was going to get a big laugh. >> this isn't sunday morning live. i do appreciate the attempt. >> it's pretty amazing donald trump. he was game. really when you're a host on saturday night live you have to surrender. you have to give in. he was the star of the show.

he made fun of himself. people make fun of his hair. who cares. >> let me play a part of weekend update where i thought some of the comedians were getting to make the jabs they have wanted to make. they didn't do it to his face. here's a clip. >> i late to break it to you but i'm not going to be in the next sketch. i'll do the next best thing. i've live tweet it. >> tomorrow it's back to cleveland. wah, wah. >> i scream, you scream, we all scream. >> is he rips us apart? >> he definitely is. >> what do you think he just

tweeted? man. probably something like kenan and kenyan. >> do you think that was an effective sketch? >> it helped the sketch. in my eye s really interesting way to go about the sketch because it's a new millenium. i checked his twitter amount at that moment, i'm checking to see if i can get it live. i imagine how many people went over to see if he was live tweeting those things. he gets the millenials. i don't know if he will be president. he's a billionaire, he's poor. when you're president, you only

get four years. let's hope it's an uptick if he does get it. i thought it was pretty good. it wasn't bad. anybody saying he bombed, he didn't bomb. deion sanders, charles barkley bombed. he played ball. he did okay. >> if trump has taught us two things about politics, it's the power of television and the power of twitter. thanks for being here. great talking with you. >> i watch you all the time. you're my treadmill show. >> get back on that treadmill. thank you. >> we'll have more on trump's snl appearance after the break. did the show diffuse the anti-trump protests. political analysis from two experts, next.

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welcome back. we mentioned the protest against donald trump in the last segment. now we'll hear from a protester directly. one of the leaders against the movement of trump. as chairman and co-founder for the arts, felix has been calling on nbc to never let trump on the stage in first place. thanks for being here. >> thank you. >> i know you caught some parts of the show. i want to play one sound bite. this is referring to the offer

for a $5,000 reward to any person in the audience who interrupted trump. no audience member interrupted but larry david pretended to. let's watch. >> you're a racist. i knew this was going to happen. who is that? >> trump's a racist. >> it's larry david. what are you doing? >> i heard if i yelled that they'd give me $5,000. >> as a businessman, i can fully respect that. >> nbc was trying to diffuse the controversy with that joke. did you feel it insulted your organizers who were trying to raise the alarm about trump's anti-immigrant rhetoric? >> the entire approach that nbc has had has been to completely dismiss the complaint.

the issue is really genuine and honest opinion about whether trump should have ever hosted the show. the very fact they did not allow any kind of communication really speaks volumes about their desire to connect and respect the latino community. it's about choosing ratings over respecting a community. >> let me ask you about your efforts to trump and his rhetoric. >> we're going to invite loren michaels and steve burke and people in the entertainment world to have an honest conversation about what's appropriate and what's not

appropriate. we hope to have people and so many others, all of these voices who opened and involved this this kind of conversation. bringing it forward so the mainstream media can understand opposing here. i think we would love to have the party chairman there to both understand that the extent to which this kind of rhetoric is really hurting latinos. we have to deal with rhetoric on the right and on the other hand we have to deal with the mentality on the left of being right and knowing best. >> i appreciate you being here this morning and previewing your

plans when it comes to that summit. thanks for being here. >> my pleasure. let me now bring in a national syndicated radio host and long term observer of politics and pop culture. i wanted to get your take on trump's performance as politics. what it means for his campaign. do you believe last night on snl helped or did it hurt in. >> originally i thought this would be a terrific thing for him because it's going to boost ratings. actually watching the entire thing i found it almost painfully unfunny. there was one sketch that was the most amazing sketch which showed trump as president in 2018. when you're treating the idea of trump in the oval office as a joke, and they were, i don't

think that helps his credibility at a time when he's trying to move into the mainstream as a serious candidate who belongs on the stage with rubio and cruz. >> some tv critics suggests the liberal writers of snl purposely tanked the show, wanted to make it unfunny. what do you think? >> no one who is a professional ever tries to be unfunny. i think it was trying to use him in way he would accept. late in the show, there was a segment which was a dummy add for trump, a made up ad for trump featuring two porn star who is were regulars on snl and it was so over the line in terms of being r rated.

i think trump's association with that will count against him. it goes along with the other big mistake he's made over the weekend which is piling onto attack dr. carson. one thing that conservatives don't like, i think, this speaks for myself and 99% of the other conservatives is all of these nonsensical attacks on ben carson. i'm not a carson supporter. i don't think he will or should be president. to attack him for saying that he was offered a scholarship to west point when no one knows whether that's true or not, whether someone mentioned that to him. everyone who goes to west point get a scholarship because they are living expenses and tuition are paid for by the government. again, it's such a double standard because obviously there is so much else from other candidates, including democratic candidates, bernie sanders. i think it's fairly well known,

his only biological child is a child out of wedlock. that's received no attention in the press. none of the aspects of bernie's or hillary's past indiscretions and misrepresentations of background. >> i would say we know about sanders, that point you made, because of the press. i understand what you're saying. we'll talk about that later in the show. thank you for being here this morning. hope to have you back here soon. >> appreciate it. up next, we've seen trump trying to capitalize on carson's fight with the media. is that a preview of what we'll see at tuesday night's debate. can we expect more of candidates attacking the moderators? news about that after this. machine i wanna see, i wanna see. longing. serendipity. what are the... chances. and good tidings to all. hang onto your antlers. it's the event you don't want to miss.

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. last week, revolt. this week, everybody's falling back in line. i'm talking about the gop debates. all the campaigns huddled at a hotel last sunday night and talked about the debates. they had lawyer type up a letter to the tv networks. some of the campaigns wanted approval over the graphics that appeared on tv. then it fizzled out because every campaign had a different agenda. will there be anything different about the fox debate?

>> it will focus on business and the economy. when you look at the debate that fox business will put on, you're going to actually have a debate about the economy, about tax, about trade, about veterans unemployment, things that the cnbc debate was supposed to be about. i think you'll see a level of professionalism that was lacking last time. >> let me talk about who will be on teenage. there's no surprise which candidates are on the main stage like trump and carson. candidates had to have an average of 2.5% in the national polls. they'll be part of the earlier debate. notably missing from either debate senator lindsey graham. what do you make of this wind

widdling of the field? >> the standards are still low. they will be on the first debate. i think they both are doing very well in iowa and new hampshire respectively and have a chance to jump back on the main stage in december. that's what the process is about is maintaining and giving them an opportunity to get their voice out and explain their solutions. if they meet the threshold for the next debate, they're back. we'll see a little volatility in the field as we move toward iowa and new hampshire. >> are you relieved we are at the point the candidates are no longer fighting about the debates? the to some people, especially some democrats, it felt like compla n complaining about the rules as opposed to talking about policy? >> this was always and should always be about the candidates in the format that best allows them to express their vision for this country. what ke saw is on the day of their first debate there was a protest outside the dnc

headquarters. you saw on our side was a discussion among our candidates about areas where they can agree on the format and wanted to have a discussion with networks. that's the way it should work. i'm pleased with the way our side dealt with the situation. the way the other side dealt with it where they limited the number of debates is exactly the wrong way to deal with it. conservative grass roots debate in january. can you tell us about that. >> we put a place holder for a grass roots debate. to have conservative media allow them to question our candidates to express the concerns and interest of our grass root voters and activist pps. >> thanks for being here.

>> you bet. republicans are not the only ones who they they can do a better job producing cable news. here is what bernie sanders said about his dream job. >> dream job that you would like to have right now if you could not be a politician? >> president of cnn. if i was president of cnn, trust me, the way media deals with politics would radically change. >> cnn president had a response. here it is. can he start monday? i feel a feeling mr. sanders is busy on monday. ben carson confronting the press as the gop front-runner rising in the polls right next to trump and facing additional media scrutiny. the question for is us is ben

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ben carson has been telling his life story for years, in book, movies and a made for tv film. now that he's running for president, his life is drawing more scrutiny. >> i would go after people with rocks and bricks and many people know the story when i was 14 and i tried to stab someone. >> two cnn reporters examined that specific part of his back story and called it a tale of two carsons. they couldn't corroborate or confirm any of the violent out bursts ever happened. now he's pushing back against the media. >> i would say to the people of america, do you think i'm a pathological liar like cnn does or an honest person. >> this is a bunch of lies

attempting to say that i'm lying about my history. i think it's pathetic. >> let me just say one other thing. i do not remember this level of scrutiny for one president barack obama when he was running. my yjob is to call you out when it's unfair and i'm going to continue to do that. >> i think this question gets lost. what is the point for a journalist like yourself to go and retrace carson's steps and try to vet his story? >> i just want to take a step back and explain how we approached this story from the beginning. dr. carson had been out on the trial telling about his violent temp in the past and talking about trying attempting to hit

he has mother over the head with a hammer, hitting people with bricks and bats. attempting to hit a classmate with a lock. so, these are parts of a candidate's background that we thought deserved further scrutiny. we sat out to find people who knew him during this pivotal period of his life. this is a big part of his story of spiritual redemption that god intervene and never have a violent episode again. scott went to detroit and talked to neighbors and friends of carson. we also went after the yearbook. none of them could recall this violent side. >> supporters would say why are you bother doing it?

>> because any presidential candidate that describes episodes like this in their past is going to have to expect a certain amount of scrutiny on those incidents. when you're talking about someone that will be president of the united states, you want to know as much as possible about their temperament. this is my fourth presidential campaign. we constantly look into these issues for all the candidates who are running for president. i think it's absurd that dr. carson doesn't expect that reporters would look into this aspect of his past. we are still waiting for the carson campaign to connect us with people who can tell us more about these incidents. >> i think you made an important part that you're trying to get the campaign to help you find those people and they didn't. when he calls this an attack, you say it's just journalism. >> it's just journalism. i understand that dr. carson is

not a politician. he's not run for office before. that's obviously a huge part of his appeal. there are going to be many questions for all of these candidates to answer. the burden of proof is on them to show us that these incidents happened. at various points the other thing that was troubling to us was his version of events has changed. we're trying to get more clarification from the campaign on what the timeline of these incidents was and learn more about this part of his life. >> i'm so glad you were here this morning. i do think there's a m misunderstanding among viewers and readers about what we do. i appreciate you being here. >> there's going to be much more of this for the next 12 months. great to see you.

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in the 1970s, millions were inspired by the movie all the president's men. some went to journalism school because of it. i think the same thing is about to happen because of this. it involved a decades long abuse scandal in the catholic church and the people who helped cover it up. >> we need to focus on the institution, not the individual priests. practice and policy. show me the church manipulated the system so these guys wouldn't have to face charges. show me they put the same priests back into parishes time

and time again. she me it came from top down. >> sounds like we're going after law. >> spotlight is in select theaters this weekend. it's going to be nationwide in the next few weeks. at its core it highlights the very best journalism can offer. what it can do to protect the public. let's two of the journalists that are depicted in film. he was the new editor of the boston globe at the time of this investigation. you're played in the movie by rachel mcadams. do you feel the journalism industry of today can still afford and sustain the kind of investigative work that you and your colleagues did that's

depicted in the movie? >> i think that's the key question. anybody that follows knows it's in tough shape. it's six people instead of four. you anticipate young people going into reporting. i think that will happen. my explicit sales pitch is i hope this makes people buy newspapers, support your local newspaper because that's how we get the revenue to do what we do. >> you can get it your doorstep or the computer. that's the revenue to do this work. >> what does it mean to have this part of your career depicted on film? you were an outsider. the church made you very much feel like an outsider when you began this investigation. >> that's true. i was entirely new to boston. i didn't know anybody in boston. i didn't know anybody at the boston globe. this was a story that confronted us. i had read a column by a columnist at the globe saying

the truth of this case may never be known. when you say the truth may never be known, that should be a red flag to journalists to go after something and find out the truth. i'm proud of the work we did and this movie as well. >> one of the points that's made in the film is the boston globe could have looked into this scandal years earlier and maybe did not do enough. you were there if more years before this 2001 investigation. >> i think coming to the groeb globe is a great example of what pair of fresh eyes can do. marty showed up new to town and asked why haven't we tried to seal them. he put the investigative team on the project. we did it. >> to go looking for what's not being covered and find what's many the darkness. so many reporters focus on the same stuff like donald trump. i do need to ask you about the

washington post reporter that remains in iran. is there any news about how he's doing? >> sadly there's no news. he's been in prison in iran now for about 16 months. well longer than the american hostages were held in iran starting in 1979. we're not hearing anything. he appears to be a pawn in factional fighting in iran. it's a huge tragedy that persists. >> even at the new york premier of spotlight, people were asking you about jason. even at this moment while we're celebrating great investigative journalism, there's this tragic news in iran. thank you for being here. great talk with you. up next, while you won't see jon stewart on tv in a few months but you will see him online. the ceo of hbo talks about his

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remember when jon stewart signed off "the daily show" three months ago? he said it wasn't goodbye, just a pause in the conversation. that pause is coming to an end. stewart is following his colleague john oliver over to hbo. the network just struck a four-year deal with stewart. he might produce tv shows and movies for hbo in the future, but he's going to start by making web videos about current events, so if you're an hbo subscriber, you'll be able to watch them online. it is definitely a sign of the times.

stewart taking his act to the web. streaming services like hbo and netflix and hulu are changing the way we watch tv, and that's why we're exploring a new series called "new tube: how digit call is transforming tv." i spent some time with the hbo ceo. >> streaming video is going to be i think the forefront for a long time. whether it's coming through your television, your laptop, through your phone, all video is ultimately going to be streamed over i.p.." >> i just want everything to be available to me immediately the second i want to see it. >> there's a big threat to the cable tv bundle, streaming. companies are changing the way we watch tv, giving us more options than ever. while cable is taking a hit for the first time ever, altogether losing half a million customers this spring. everything must be just a click away, so the giants of old media

have to adapt. the question is exactly how they should keep up with this rapidly expanding and hugely popular shift in media. take hbo. instead of holding on to its old model, it's shaking things up, becoming the first staple of cable to offer all its programming with an online subscription. no cable box needed. >> i think is the most exciting point in the modern history of hbo. >> and this is history in the making. on the set of "vinyl," a drama about the music business in the 1970s. it's the kind of program he needs to be a success both online and on cable. but he says the two businesses do not have to be mutually exclusive. >> there was an implicit criticism that we were going to cannibalize our core business. less than 1% of hardcore businesses left to get hbo as a

standalone streaming service. >> hbo and cnn are both earned by time warner. the company doesn't release a number of subscribers hbo has in the u.s., but analysts estimate around 30 million subscribe via cable and now close to one million subscribe online. combined, that's still a smaller number than netflix's 40-plus million in the u.s. making the competition stiffer, hbo now cost twice as much. >> how do you justify that more expensive cost? >> we think it's a premium product. we have four hollywood movie studios. we have 3,000 hours of live programming. we think that's more than a fair price. it's a movie ticket and a bucket of popcorn. >> we're at the point where hbo is a streaming service, an on demand service that happens to have a linear television network? >> no. as we say, it's multi-lateral. people are enjoying the network in a myriad of different ways. we just want to give them the flexibility to do so however they want, whenever they want.

>> here we go. ready. action. >> i think you're overreacting. >> it's so fun to write. our actors are so good. it's like heaven to write something for lena and have lena say those words. >> jenny connor is an executive producer of "girls." she's just a few months away from releasing the show's fifth season in an ever more crowded space. >> do you look at amazon and hulu and all those companies saying that's a good thing for the industry? or maybe too much of a good thing? >> i don't know. i can see all sides of it. i think there's more of television than there's ever been, so there's got to be something working about it. sometimes i'll hear about a show and i'm like, what was that? i had never even heard of that. i had barely heard of that network. it can be overwhelming. >> what's been the biggest change for the industry technologically? >> it's on demand. a fantasy.

>> a fantasy that cries out for something very old fashioned, curation. it's supposed to be a signal to subscribers in 2015 just as it was in 1995, that you're going to enjoy this hour of tv, whether you're streaming it or watching it through your tv box. >> good story telling is still dominant. >> it's a very exciting time for people who make and on great content. we have more talent lined up at our door who want to work with us than ever before. and i think it's great, great content. >> now, in the coming weeks, we'll take you to the headquarters of youtube, buzz feed, and the virtual reality company occulus. you can actually stream those stories right now at cnnmoney.com/media. that's all for this televised edition of "reliable sources." do sign up for our news letter, delivered to your inbox every

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